Eris On Uranus 2015-2017

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Guillaume Cornelis van Beverloo, (

Normally  you won’t hear a peep out of me about Eris – the “Pluto twin” discovered in 2005 – and there have been a few reasons for this.

She moves so slowly – in Aries since the 1920s – that has not seemed worth tracking.  When she was first discovered, she was called Xena as a nickname (very Mars) and then the astronomer who discovered this dwarf planet actually wanted to call her PERSEPHONE.

Aka Mrs Pluto/the Queen of the Underworld and one of my favorite archetypes  – this would have been a brilliant fit. Totally apt.  But as there is already an asteroid Persephone (number 399) the name Eris – the Goddess of Discord – was given to her instead. But in my mind, this is Persephone and I have always gotten scrambled even thinking about Eris-Persephone.

But with Uranus charging up to travel alongside Eris/Persephone for basically two years, it is clearly time for a closer look. She is at 22/23 Aries until May 2019.  Uranus makes it to 20 Aries mid-2015 and then to 22/23 Aries in May/June 2016, Sept-Oct 2016 and then again in March 2017.

But you can essentially count Uranus and Eris within orb from mid-2015 until mid-2017.

Persephone is in many ways the ultimate transformation vibe – she goes from innocent maiden (Kore) to the more empowered Lady of the Shadows, the Aphrodite of the Underworld. She goes (literally) through hell and comes out as the reigning Queen. Her journey echoes that of the great Babylon Goddess Ishtar.

Eris is another story – the perpetual bitchy witch at every wedding, jealous and spiteful.

My friend Rachel Stuart Haas sees her as being very Mars-Uranus, not so much jealous of anyone’s nuptials as just bored by the whole bourgeois theater and yes, with terrible P.R. advice. She does not come off well in any fairy tale.

And my friend Kim Falconer sees Eris as like the guest you don’t want to invite to your party/dinner table/wedding but actually you have to. A la embracing your shadow.   From her amazing synchronities page.

 “I am the Fairy Uglyane! Pray where are your King’s manners, that I have not been invited?”

 

Thanks to Walt Disney, almost everyone is familiar with the story of Sleeping Beauty. Although the highlights may be on Prince Charming, love’s first kiss, and happy ever after, the action of the tale, the event that really gets things started, comes from the curse of the uninvited guest–the 13th fairy. It is this neglected enchantress, disgruntled by being ignored, that causes the entire kingdom to fall into unconsciousness. What an interesting metaphor!

 

There is another tale that comes to us from Homer’s Iliad. Here it is the tempestuous goddess of strife, Eris, who has also been overlooked. When she fails to receive an invitation for the event that all the gods and goddesses are attending, she crashes the party. Eris then stirs things up by tossing a golden apple down the banquet table. Bouncing and crashing through the crystal and fine china, it ultimately falls to rest midway between Hera, Queen of the gods, Athena, goddess of wisdom, and Aphrodite, goddess of love and beauty. Around the golden apple is inscribed “for the fairest” and of course, each of the three deities reach for it.

 

Zeus, sensing trouble, quickly calls upon the young mortal Paris to decide which of the three goddesses deserves the apple–which is most fair. Paris may or may not have realized the dubious nature of this honor. In any case, it seems he had no choice. Each goddess paraded in front of him, as seen in the Rubens above, offering reward after her own fashion—Hera offered power, Athena offered strategy and Aphrodite offered the most beautiful woman in the world, Helen. Paris chose Helen and thus began the Trojan war.

 

The result of this event was the destruction of Troy (a synchronicity foretold by his mother’s dream) and enormous loss of lives all round. Helen and Paris had a very hard time, as did her Greek husband, Menelaus, and all because nobody thought to include the goddess Eris to dinner. In the words of Richard Idemon, ‘There is a message here.’ (Idemon, 1996)

 

The message has to do with the results of neglect and the kinds of synchronicities that may be evoked by the ‘Trickster’. This is not a reference to neglecting health, diet or exercise and then suffering the physical consequences. This is about neglecting the needs of our own innate energy, our inner world, and the results that oversight may bring.

 

If inner needs are ignored, we only have to look to fairy tales and myths to find out what can happen. In human nature, the worst punishment is ostracism and the outcome of such an exclusion, even self inflicted, is often self-destructive. The inner life of the psyche has its way of being felt, for better or for worse. One way an uninvited element of the unconscious may manifest in life is through dis-ease (strife) of a physical or emotional nature.

 

This can be experienced as a synchronicity, especially if the illness prevents forward movement, changing a job, relationship or location and forces one into self-reflection. Synchronicities may come at times when inner reflection is most needed.

Whether you think a la Persephone as i do or prefer to examine the myth of Eris for more insight, it’s clear that this planet meeting up with radical Uranus – the Trickster God and stirrer incarnate – is going to be interesting, especially for females role in society/culture, general emancipation from crap for every gender or identity and intensified pioneer activity.

So check YOUR Eris/Persephone – you can throw her into your chart on Astrodienst. Hint; She will be in Aries. We all have her in Aries BUT she could be considered more relevant if exact conjunct your Moon, Sun, Venus or similar.

AND then find where you have 22/23 Aries in your chart – that’s your liberation zone for the next few years.

OR just discuss Jungian-Underworldly-Bitch-Goddess themes – it’s a Full Moon Eclipse in Libra square Pluto and Easter – Resurrection is very much chic at the moment.

Finally: If all this sounds tres Lilith to you, you’re right – she was a Hebrew Goddess though. But also not invited anywhere – only she didn’t care.

 

Image: Guillaume Cornelis van Beverloo

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Sibel
Sibel

The three (Hera, Athena,Aphrodite) goddesses are selfish. Shouldn’t at a wedding the bride gets the apple as the fairest woman?And isn’t the apple a symbol of fertility, the right gift for the bride? Perhaps the three goddesses show how women in patriarchy are taught to take different male positions, in a divisive manner..
I think Eris is the wisest of all, she seems to me as a very old, matriarchal goddess, who initiates into a self-determined sexuality. This wasn’t desired by the old patriarchates.

Ms.
Ms.

I’ve always wondered about Eris because she is conjunct my MC in Aries..
Ironically Ceres is on the other side in the 9th conjunct MC with same degree separation

Slap you down and feed you afterwards?

I have Pan rising in Gemini I need no more mischief 🙂

Mystic, ages ago you said I would have some kind of person arrive around end of may/june when uranus hits this degree point because it will trine my venus, so I am curious now to see if the season is extra Eris themed

samantha
samantha

Oh. I have Eris exact on Chiron in my 7th house natally. Also both opposite Uranus.

Eris is relevant to me as I practise chaos magic. Also I’m very drawn to Peresphone and have worked with her story.

Thanks for this Mystic. I can see this transit as a n opportunity for healing. X

supercal
supercal

hi Samantha,

would you be willing to share something of how you have worked with Persephone’s story?

Thank you!

samantha
samantha

Some trance work within ritual space. Setting intent – opening up a dialogue with her.

Also a weird experience taking acid and going to a party at this dodgy strip club 🙂 I became Persephone travelling to the underworld.

supercal
supercal

haha, awesome. thank you 🙂

GFTpisces
GFTpisces

Eris is conjunct my Lilith on one side, and my Mars-Venus conjunction on the other side. In my Aries 9th house, thus making it part of my grand fire trine with my Saggo Uranus, my Leo Asc and Mars-Venus-Lilith (and now Eris)

tw:leo
tw:leo

my eris is retrograde at 17 aries, hanging out in the 4th house. she’s kind of lonely down there – i’ve only really got asteroids in aries (one of which is theodora (love the idea of theodora), 5 degrees away). eris is trine my sun, square my chiron/pallas/hekate conjunction in kataka, and opposite my part of fortune.

AquariusNoMore?
AquariusNoMore?

I forgot to at that my Eris is in Aries, 7th house at 22/23.

AquariusNoMore?
AquariusNoMore?

I fear I have become a Muggle. Despite all of the provided knowledge, my husband and I have had the same disagreement for the last three days. At this point neither of us are sleeping well. We are both at our wits end and I ALMOST hope he asks for a separation.

aqualuna
aqualuna

Well, if it make you feel any better my fiancee and I haven’t had any love action since we moved in over a month ago… My Sun and Merc are in the 8th house ,so I’ve been secretly apt. searching. His merc./Uranus (tightly conjunct, so you know he’s bats) are in Scorpio so he’s not going to let me leave w/ out a fight. The thing is, he has an eighth house stellium, including his mars/jupiter conj in Virgo… So is it this astro ?? Or is it that he’s a Sag. and they get comfortable after you move in?

aqualuna
aqualuna

or that he’s a sag and he’s already humping someone ?

Pi
Pi

having a protracted disagreement with a spouse does not suddenly turn you into someone who is less aware of the esoteric etc x is it important that one or the other of you is right, and why? what would it take to progress this stalemate/deadlock? is yielding or compromise a problem (or an option) for him, or you, and why/not? what happens if you agree to disagree? is showing weakness or a gesture of conciliation/desire to mediate somehow an issue? what would happen for each of you if one or the other of you “got their way”, if this is… Read more »

AquariusNoMore?
AquariusNoMore?

By the end of the day I was in worse shape. However my husband apologized profusely. He admitted his words and actions were unkind. This was surprising. He has sun and moon in Leo.

mercurysmuse
mercurysmuse

I have Eris at 13 degrees Aries, and it is conjuct my Mars in Aries at 18 degrees in the first house. I believe 13 is the number of the goddess, so Eris is all in my presence, which explains reactions of people when I walk into a room and don’t understand why people do not get warrior power…I am still learning how transits works, and have found the chart on astro, which looks like Eris is transiting my first house then. I will say just yesterday, I decided to purchase a very cool black leather biker jacket, which I… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Jack Kerouac — ‘There was nowhere to go but everywhere, so just keep on rolling under the stars.’

catfish moon
catfish moon

I have Jupiter at 22* Aries. It is in my 8th house.

catfish moon
catfish moon

I have Jupiter at 22* Aries. It is in my 8th house.

catfish moon
catfish moon

Eris in the8th house. No aspects.

Vicktoria
Vicktoria

Natal Eris is 15 degrees conjunct my pre-natal eclipse point in the 10th house. They are both squaring transiting Pluto in my 7th house, of course. Easter’s Lunar eclipse at 14 Libra will fall in my 4th, which is going to oppose natal Eris/pre-natal eclipse point. Venus is conjunct my the house cusp as well. I’m going bats waiting for the anticipation. Last April’s eclipses left me traumatized, and now when a new eclipse is approaching I wonder if what happened will happen again. Uranus, Pluto were a degree behind last year.. Jupiter was at 14, is it possible that… Read more »

VenusRules
VenusRules

Holy smokes, that is an AWESOME print. Who is the artist, please? It’s amazing and witty and wonderful.

Suzi
Suzi

Hey VenusRules…

Image is by Guillaume Cornelis van Beverloo

Mystic always credits the artist at the bottom of her posts 🙂

VenusRules
VenusRules

Thanks – yes, I always appreciate the attributions enormously but looked for it under the image where I usually see it.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Oh great, I have my North Node at 22 Aries right near the 10th/11th house cusp, career and community/groups……..doesn’t sound like this will be a very nice transit! 🙁 I already feel excluded a lot in my life, from my family, from a lot of activities with friends, feel kind of alienated with my work…….ugh. Not so glad to hear this today………feeling fragile around this eclipse energy looming, not great timing, but I guess it’s good to know in advance…. I’ll just be more and more a pariah and a weirdo….. effing depressing….. At least that’s how I’m interpreting all… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

I’d rather be a weirdo than a boring conformist! Find new friends. I’ve just found a new tribe volunteering for the Greens – they’re my people 🙂

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Also, hugs for feeling lonely/depressed Flower.
Whenever you feel that you are alone, release a prayer. Never underestimate how important you are to someone else. When you feel alone, keep in mind that the aloneness is a temporary space between orbits. You are in motion to another place where there will be love and new friends to meet you. That is a fact of life, and I didn’t write the rules, I just know them.

Pi
Pi

this is lovely xxx

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Hugs Flowerchild, I’ve been reading your posts recently and it seems you have been doing it a bit tough. What you write here sounds like one of those ‘all at sea’ phases that happens sometimes between life stages. The old world is gone but the new is yet to manifest and you’re questioning how you’re going to fit.
Hang in there. If it helps, you are among friends here x

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

I feel ya…I’d rather be around those that celebrate my weirdness than just tolerate me.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Thank you all so much! I appreciate the support and insights, and I so appreciate this MM community!

Gemyogi, I will release a prayer….that is a beautiful image, and sounds like a perfect course of action. Your words are so kind and healing….thank you!

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

You’re so welcome. A friend shared that quote with me when I was going through a depressed stage, and I love it 🙂 xx

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Wow. My natal Eris is at 11 deg Aries in my 22th house. And my asc is 23 Aries, so Eris is basically on my ascendant! O_o

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Ha ha I mean 12th house not 22nd

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Gawd can you imagine if there were 22 houses lol

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

The house of social media, the house of exes, the house of broken dreams — beware Pluto squaring those puppies 😀

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

YES there could be a house for everything! “Mercury is retro in your house of drunken pashes. I predict you’ll bump into Derek from accounts.”

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Lol 😀

Mercury is transitting your house of lost possessions — it’s likely that your missing library books will turn up

Pi
Pi

LOL

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

That sounds both terrifying and enthralling.

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

I have Eris conjunct Vesta and they are both on the 9th house cusp. Plus they are exact opp my Circe in Libra who’s about to get eclipse-zapped. Never really thought much about this until the other day when I discovered my Circe (my secret Circe lol). Interesting because 9th house issues have been huge during the zap zone. All my life I’ve been known as the smartest kid in the class and have had others’ expectations/projections dumped on me. Giving up the academic path as I did recently was the hardest decision I ever made, because it meant giving… Read more »

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

….so what I take from this in relation to the Eris myth is that to make peace with her, I invite my inner book nerd to be part of the more left-of-centre/Gem NN projects I now have on the go. She can be an indispensable part of the team, perhaps Gem NN can help her ideas reach a wider audience. Perhaps they need each other?

Pi
Pi

: feel like I’ve bunked off class to go hang on the oval with the cool kids who smoke :

this is *exactly* how I feel and what I have been struggling with in my ‘study’ the past few years. I am a certified nerd and to try a new way of being feels like I am chucking all the other stuff in the bin, i know it’s not black and white like this but there is a debris-strewn no mans land that I have to keep picking my way through, it’s a wierd place.

supercal
supercal

fuq, it sounds divine Chrys! enjoy the music and the stories, I hope you can relax into and find joy in these pleasures x

Z
Z

Eris in the 8th house opposition moon and mars sextile mercury. Feedback on what that could be would be v. appreciated.

Z
Z

Its transit on my chart is Mars, Eris, Uranus, Sun in the 8th house but not conjunct

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

LOL, I’m being totally cheeky here but…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A0p-U1LBbQ “Gonads and Strife” IS an oddly appropriate theme to contemplate with this an 8th House Eris, don’t you think?! ROFL! 😀 Pardon me while I regain my composure…what was I saying? Oh yes…a 2nd house Libra Moon/Mars opposite an 8th House Eris in Aries obviously highlights the financial axis, and by virtue of the Aries/Libra polarity we have “Every man for themselves!” vs. “Share and share alike”. I would put this combination near the top of a list for there being a likelihood of squabbles over family inheritances….the Mercury connection may signify… Read more »

Z
Z

I saw that video for the first time today. Very funny / apposite with Eris in 8th House. Well, my Aries sister and me submitted some docs for a refinancing of my grandparents’ house and yes I fear that there will be squabbles with my aunts and uncles (don’t get along with them) and I fear they may play some trick on us and not share in equal amounts. My intention if we get any money is to share equal amounts with my sister but my fear is that exactly, that I don’t have control of the circumstances.

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

I would say don’t let them lob any “apples of discord” (or is that “bones of contention”?) between you and your sis that might affect the equitable distribution of assets, otherwise they could well be the Eris in the equation, smirking from the sidelines. The Moon & Mars are both personal energies, so you do very much have control over your own behavior and conduct even if you can’t control what they do/don’t do. A Libra Moon+Mars is easily emotionally inflamed and thrown off balance by anything that “isn’t fair” or that demonstrates a lack of consideration for others, but… Read more »

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Lastly, if sis is an Aries, keep a neutral eye on her behaviors as well – we know how Aries tends to come off hot and is ready to throw down, so if her Sun is activating this polarity in your chart she could (intentionally or unintentionally) wind up fanning the flames and you may need to call upon all those Libra skills to mediate. You have Mars in Libra next to your Moon so on some level having a family member as a comrade-in-arms is invaluable to you, however mutual win scenarios might work better than “us vs. them”,… Read more »

meeohmi
meeohmi

Omg
When does it end
I’m both n all of it
22nd is my evil sister
H a y a e v I l
I would only make amends with her so to ot being that karma into a the next life perchance there is a next life
Why couldn’t I have been given the Prada bag version of life?!

Let it go Let it go let it go . .

actually today’s version of frozen is

Let it burn let it burn let it burn (the churches that is .)

saggenie
saggenie

Reminds me of the movie Rachel Getting Married! especially her cringe-worthy speech for the bride where by the end it looks as if every person there wants to grab a gag of chloroform and silence her.. Such a great movie

ScorpSolAquaLuna
ScorpSolAquaLuna

So if Eris is in my 6th house… for efficiency, health, purpose, daily rhythm, duties, purification, refinement, work life, discipline… then YES. I would LOVE liberation for all those things right now (esp. purification, work life, and discipline).

Does anyone else have Eris in the 6th (sixth house)?

Invicta
Invicta

Not I, she is in my 5th.

Fauness
Fauness

I do, 14 Aries in the 6th. Very early degrees of the house, and 4 degrees from my south node. I was raised in a strict religious household and it’s taken a lot to remove myself from that. I have a pretty strong work ethic and can be a perfectionist, but I am learning to undo the negative parts and weave them together with more creative and forward thinking ways. It runs pretty deep, so it’s quite the process. One thing I get a kick out of is banishing the “head of the table” crap. My four year old daughter… Read more »

Veronica
Veronica

🙂 Your Eris exact on my merc, Fauness!
As is SO’s of course.

Having so much Gemini, (gem venus) I think he likes my words even though they can stir things up…my merc natally in 7th too.

Fauness
Fauness

Of course he does! My gem venus 8H loves communication. The deeper the better. Even the stirring because it leads to new thoughts and ideas. Your connections seem very electrified.

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

So funny – I have been thinking about this subject (Uranus over Eris) since the yoni post the other week! As I was saying back there, I think the whole…how did your friend put it, c**t-consciousness?… thing is totally the work of Eris. I’ve always seen her as more Martian/Uranian. IMO, She is primarily a disruptor, and damn good at paradigm-altering – remember it was her discovery that lead to Pluto being demoted. I have a theory that the Large Hadron Collider resonates with Eris energy, but I don’t have hard data to work from other than its inaugural test… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Interesting!

Pi
Pi

Ares is her twin brother! I rest my case 😀

Pi
Pi

With the mars energy.
Strife, discord, disruption, mars uranian makes sense

Pi
Pi

So basically she did tell Pluto that his rules weren’t welcome lol

Pi
Pi

Re-reading this based on the astro hacks thing. I am super into the idea that Eris and the Lhc are linked.

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

My Pluto is 23 Libra, conjunct Venus. I’ve told a few people how much I honestly think they suck this year. Pretty revolutionary for someone with a whole Libra stellium, but I am increasingly about my own liberation more than making nice.

Geminian
Geminian

Right on my Venus at 23 degrees. And Pluto is in my 7th house right now too. Wow. But also hard in a difficult transformational kind of epiphanic of way. And I am about to finish my balsamic moon phase. Talk about coming up out of the depths of winter and the womb. I’m about to start a major piece of writing about love, redemption and the karmic binds of relationships.

Feel a whole new sense of grist for the mill coming on.

I get it now.

Thank you.

Invicta
Invicta

that is awesome

Geminian
Geminian

Thanks! Eris and Uranus are meeting up with my Venus in the 10th. Totally boss!

Invicta
Invicta

ooh my Sun is 22 Virgo.
Yay!
I desperately need to reconnect with my sun. She’s being totally sabotaged by my moon / saturn T square atm.

Bit miffed at myself lately.
Can’t seem to focus on anything.

Invicta
Invicta

Insomniacs, look on the bright side, only 3 more sleeps till xmas.
Ha.
My sister in law just sent me that.

Invicta
Invicta

Transiting Uranus is 16 Aries.
Transiting Chiron is 16 Aries.
Natal Eris is 12 Aries
Transiting Eris 22 Aries
All in my 5th house.
Not thinking very clearly today.
Brain fog…sorry!

Invicta
Invicta

Eris is a few degrees away from my Chiron, trines my moon and squares my Uranus. Uranus is currently transiting Chiron in the 5th and I’m feeling my Uranus opposition starting to shake things up. It’s not massively comfortable being me right now.

Fauness
Fauness

Eris has been on my mind because just last week a new student came into my class named Erris. Of course I had to run home and read up. I don’t take that kind of coincidence lightly.

I mistakenly thought she was conjunct my chiron (I made that comment in another post), but she is actually conjunct my SN. Uranus is conjunct my natal ascendant, so I’m interested to see what happens!

Fauness
Fauness

I confronted a nasty coworker that same week. Refused to be blamed for drama she is spinning. I usually am not confrontational.

6
6

Haven’t heard of this story til now:

http://www.treehugger.com/ocean-conservation/leonardo-dicaprio-wants-find-worlds-loneliest-whale-donates-50k-documentary.html

For some reason thought that this linked with the story of Eris, not on bitchiness aspect, but not being able to be fully understood by others and thus shunned. Because I would think that whether bitchy or not, feelings of loneliness stemming from misunderstandings don’t escape any social creature.

Invicta
Invicta

What a beautiful article. Thank you

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

That resonates.

As for 22 Aries – she’ll be conjunct my 8th house Chiron for years.

Invicta
Invicta

Shes conjunct my Chiron too but in the 5th

gemini cat
gemini cat

Ancient peoples like the Greeks used exile as the worst kind of punishment — Socrates chose poison instead. Society was based on inherited citizenship and family connections, so being exiled was to be made forever homeless and a non-person. A kind of hell. You couldn’t just become a member of a new city. Eris spends most of its 800+ orbit far beyond Pluto at a very different angle from the other planets. It would be interesting to see what events happen during the times it’s been closer than Pluto. Are they Eris disruptions or Persephone flowerings? Depends on perspective, I… Read more »

gemini cat
gemini cat

* 800+ year orbit

Invicta
Invicta

Really interesting observation!

gemini cat
gemini cat

* would change the wording in that post if I could

Anyway, women haven’t been citizens until recently so that puts a different angle on the matter.

6
6

Yes, the thought of people doing something about it sounds beautiful. But to bring about that level of change – what would it take? I’ve been asking myself that since I can remember.

I’ve been doing Eris my whole life – and it’s been in my 10th, so very visible action. Perceived as disruptive by others and then exiled over and over (scapegoat?). I’m Sun-Lilith too. Eris trines my natal Persephone natally but is exactly trined at the moment. Persephone is also near my Sun-Neptune(!) This article leapt out at me.

Hardeep
Hardeep

I made the mistake of inviting and trying to please an Eris – the perpetual bitch into my world. My psych asked me once if i actually liked this woman and i could find no good – maybe there is no good and its ok. Just last week i bought a flash new car ( for me) and perpetual bitch visited and told me all that was wrong with it – no biggie for me but aries partner went nuts at lack if social niceness Im a terrible people pleaser so i dont get perpetual bitch at all and i… Read more »

Skye
Skye

She doesn’t get to enjoy driving it. Bet you still smile every time you get into that brand new seat 🙂

(…Wanders off remembering new car smells and parking in the furthest end of the car park to avoid shopping trolley damage…)

Hardeep
Hardeep

Great response Skye

Love it

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

I cannot stand “bitchy women” either. life is too short for that kind of bad vibe. I get ya.

hdq
hdq

i can’t see her as persephone at all. eris was never a victim. i see her as the original rebel without a cause, but with a conscience. i see her as a whistleblower. lizbeth salander? female loki and uranus and definitely trickster, exposing hypocrisy and stripping people down to their base motives. why wasn’t she invited to that party?! anyway i think she is perfectly named and increasingly relevant. hail eris! i love her.
as i must. 22 aries is my SN, so we’re gonna be living together for a long time!

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

I don’t even like weddings!
Hail Eris!

Invicta
Invicta

Me neither. Always hated them. I even felt super uncomfortable and like I wanted to be sick during my own. I TOTALLY sucked at being a wife.
Like TOTALLY!

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

YES. Your take on Eris totally resonates. Is it any wonder why she wasn’t invited? I think it’s obvious.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Take for instance the story of the golden apple: when Eris dropped that goodie into the mix, she exposed the vanity & general trifleness of the “gods”, & it was these shortcomings that started the war– not Eris herself. Who wants Eris at a shindig, esp if you/your guests/your m.o. is shady? Sometimes not being invited is a *good* sign, know what i mean? Sure you do 😉

Invicta
Invicta

Great point Ankh !

skarab
skarab

Absolutely!

gemini cat
gemini cat

Groucha Marx

hdq
hdq

exaaaactly. 🙂

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Brilliant observation Ankh

Z
Z

Thumbs up

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

agreed.
I hate weddings seem so fake and filled with pageantry, rather than authentic ritual.
This hits home right now…was invited to a Queen B’s wedding and just said no. The backlash is bad, I’ve been exiled and shunned. I cannot do weddings. especially ones based on shallow reasons.

Pi
Pi

lol. whoops, sting the queen b’s ego there. others might feel sad you could not make it but wouldn’t turn it into Problem Of The Year. enjoy your night off . weddings can be hard work if they are not Your People.

Pi
Pi

I agree with this actually. My understanding of eris is nothing like Persephone, who had to exist on Pluto’s terms for half the year. Eris would tell Pluto to stick his stupid terms, who was he to make up the rules anyway. She is sometimes lumped in with the Furies too I think (need to re check). I was reading about a distinction between her and lilith energy too, can’t recall the details though.

Invicta
Invicta

I read somewhere that she was the higher octave of Lilith I think…

hdq
hdq

lilith is sexual whereas eris is not, imo. not that she can’t be, but it’s not her focus like it is liith’s.

Pi
Pi

Listening 🙂

Invicta
Invicta

ok so a guy I never mention anymore because I promised Pegs and my waffling about him was just stupid so I STFU about him but this is how I know about the Eris Lilith connection. I had a synastry reading done by Marina from Darkstar because I was/am a love zombie/ manorexic looser. He had Eris conjunct Lilith and she was all “omg how much sex appeal would a guy like this have?” According to her it was as important as say a Venus/Neptune relationship and that the one was the higher octave of the other. Incidentally that same… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

Darling Invicta, knowing men as well as i do…dammit…it guts me to see an amazing woman get tripped up by one. The worthwhile ones never play games with your psyche, never play you like he did, shame on him.
But believe me i DO understand the attraction that seems to set up camp in your head, it’s called a spell, a though form that just won’t go away…until you grow out of it until then it can be debilitating.
It did happen to me just ONCE and sent me quite crazy. Hence my simpatico. xx

Alouetta
Alouetta

Yes I like this too. Was just reading an article linking the conjunction of Eris and Chiron back in the early 70’s with the birth of modern feminism. No wonder they didn’t want her at that party! If Eris was around now she’d be a member of Pussy Riot. Lucky me, I have her conjunct my Chiron and AC.

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

I like this. Esp. the whistleblower part.

I don’t see Eris as having much to do with Persephone/Kore either. I see Persephone/Kore as being pretty literally about the times of abundance vs. the times of famine in life. She submits to that experience, not necessarily Pluto, and self actualizes by holding on to both poles.

Alightit
Alightit

Yes not to pluto, but uses his way and looks his way to make her polarity clear for self-awareness. Eris oscillates up and down. Her up motion as in overworld is her liberatingly-uncontrollable nature and her down motion as in underworld is her learning and understanding self-control. Yes she submits herself this as she submits to no one else, but has to be careful not to be raped by the forces of control, self or otherwise.

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

If Strange Invisibles ever make an Eris perfume I’m coming after it.

hdq
hdq

meeeeeeeeee too

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

I got this one. Natal sun and Eris both at 12 aries, Venus waaaay over at 11 so no worries there . 8th house. So transiting is has been opposing natal Uranus for a bit. With cancer cap 12 nodes I think it was about 2013 when I found her in my zap mix soup. I know that I tried to tone down my negative effect on people but I do damage even if I’m covered in roses. If I were to allow myself to act without this almost crippling fear of hurting people I would be a fire Bender… Read more »

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

Ô-o

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

Ummm. I have persephone at 23 aries. Holy moly. Keep me away from my own birthday cake.

pi
pi

Ahhha. Thanks for this. I’ve been stalking eris, mining for ideas and insight, natally exact on my midheaven and opposing my Pluto and IC conjunction.

22/23 degrees means aspects all over my chart and (more or less) conjunct my Venus/south node at 24 Aries. Vive la discord. No wonder I never get invited out, hahahahahaah j/k sort of
only my most brave and independent friends seem to get it

Invicta
Invicta

Ha!

Pi
Pi

I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to use terms like bitch, spiteful, duty invite etc for eris. Not like that. It’s not her job to make nice when the system stinks. Joan of Arc apparently had eris prominent in her chart, if that’s a thing. I guess a bunch of people didn’t like her back in the day either 😉

Invicta
Invicta

Yeah, that makes sense to me! 🙂

kim falconer
kim falconer

I love the idea of Eris as a Persephone archetype and her associations with Pluto make that an alluring draw. With Uranus conjunct for the next several years, it’ll be a hot point for surprise, in any case. We definitely don’t want to pretend she’s not there, not wanting that invitation. I think being in Aries really supports this energy. Where Aries is in the chart, we want to be the boss, lead the way, call the shots. And now Uranus and Eris together there, it’s enough to start a revolution. Limitations, look out! The times ripe for breaking out… Read more »

Suzi
Suzi

Oh… I like this Kim…”Limitations, look out! The times ripe for breaking out of all ruts, old patterns and archaic thinking!”

I’ve got Natal Eris (9,39) Conjunct Psyche (10,29) Conjunct Sun (14,43) in 4th.

So my liberation zone is in 5th house… woo hoo! Looking forward to this 🙂

kim falconer
kim falconer

The 5th! You can PLAY with this in so many ways. Bottom line, invite the fun!

Suzi
Suzi

Yeppers… Let me count the ways… hehehe.

So many ideas on what I want to do… with Uranus around… think spontaneous manifestation will be on the agenda 🙂

aquaunbird
aquaunbird

Yes I appreciate your view, it will be a very tricky path to navigate as Eris is conjunct my north node 8th, and sextile the sun 6th…I am not really wishing to invite anything of this sort. It is really exhausting dealing with very narrow minded people who refuse to accept other’s choices. My whole peaceful and artistic childhood idea for raison d’etre is built from an experienced and perceived south node libra 2nd house identity which I am experiencing some challenges with especially presently (given the 18-twenty year cycle commencing from last Jupiter in Aries cycle which was also… Read more »

kim falconer
kim falconer

I agree. You’ve processed the past – no need to “account again for what was put away”. (well phrased). The core of North Node in the 8th is collaboration. You put energy into helping others find their resources and self worth. The contrast is that, in Aries, the NN says “we know collaboration and sharing and caring for others; time to go independent and blaze some trails!” Somehow, you find a way to honor both of these drives. So Eris says, invite in ways to be that supportive person, the one that can help ppl find their own value AND… Read more »

aquasunbird
aquasunbird

Thank you, you are spot on, as I am very interested in art, both parents were fine art educated at a prestigious institution, instructed by a respected & reknowned artist, & I have been involved in work with creativity and psychology. I used to worked professionally with developing developing designers vision, (as in following through on future trends / stories) but only felt comfortable working behind the scenes, providing a service. I had my mercury (conjunct fomahault) in pisces recently being visited by neptune. It is sextile to moon in cancer in the 10th, opposite jupiter 12th (which is on… Read more »

Bea
Bea

She’s in my 8th too…
Can you explain what you imagine?

kim falconer
kim falconer

Bes, the 8th house is watery and deep. It has to do with “sex, death and taxes” all things that we can’t ‘control’. Things where we give something up. Taxes we give up to the Gov with no idea what they will really do with the resources. Sex is where we (may) give our energy with no guarantee how it will be honored, and death is this final giving up of the body where, no matter what we believe will happen, we really don’t know . . . In the 8th house, we take a risk. A leap in the… Read more »

Rachel Stuart-Haas
Rachel Stuart-Haas

I agree Kim! In fact Mystic’s saying for ZapZone “stay stuck and you’ll be fuqed” could very well be applied here.

The more open you’ll be to chaos wherever Uranus and Eris fall in your chart, the better you’ll fare. i think it could be a really exciting time to shake things up, expand, and grow!

kim falconer
kim falconer

Love this, Rachel. Excitement, shakeup, expansion and growth!

Yes!

Geminian
Geminian

In my tenth conjuncting my Venus. Here we go!

Pi
Pi

Hey geminian (this auto corrected to feminism hehe) With Uranus 22 aries It’s in my 10th with Venus and south node too I feel like the female-as-fighter is an overlooked archetype which I guess is why I am so sensitized to its being misconstrued or misunderstood or just, like, missed My south node too, something going on I guess Not nec lets all dress up like xena and wield a sword but the Aries thing, that’s all about locking horns isn’t it, fighting fire with fire, “reasonable use of force” lol. With Libra north node 4th house I am clear… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

I reckon desperate times call for desperate measures. I’ve always wanted to be Xena. Aries rising warrior here, under the quiet calm common sense of Taurus and the mercurial gem communication. When I am forced to, I love busting a few deserving heads 😉

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

12th house Aries Eris here 🙂

Geminirising
Geminirising

the transiting eris will be conjunct my venus too 🙁

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Natal Eris in 1st house & trine my north node-Neptune in Sagittarius, 9th house. Transiting Eris (& Uranus) atop my natal Chiron 1st house. I really dig Kimmy’s take on the lessons of Eris. Thanks Kim 🙂 & thanks Mystic for passing this info along!

Natal Lilith in Aquarius, 12th house. Ultimately, detachably lmfao 😛

Invicta
Invicta

My Eris is also transiting and on the exact degree of my natel Chiron.

Invicta
Invicta

natal. God I can’t even spell natal. wtf is with me today?

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Full moon eclipse static electricity playing with your settings? 😉

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Right: the Chiron-Eris connection. I think there is something there for us about finding our Truth & being Authentic, & then teaching these lessons of Eris to others… Chiron has students. Eris abhors hypocrisy. Authenticity or bust!

kim falconer
kim falconer

Glad you like. Myths can be such powerful metaphors for life! 🙂

Isa
Isa

Checked it out and my natal Eris is 3 degrees away from my MC, but she’s now trining my Leo sun at 22 degrees… also just noticed Lilith is exactly on my Mercury. Sneaky.

Gemstone333
Gemstone333

Ah Eris. I’ve been told she’s prominent in my chart. Opposite my natal Venus, and in the transit you speak of above, she’s conjunct my moon in the 12th house…… I suppose I should learn to make peace with her, and invite her to everything I can.

kim falconer
kim falconer

Gemstone, that’s my take. Make peace by inviting her. It’s a curse breaker, metaphorically. 🙂

Kim
Kim

Hi Kim,

Eris on SNode complicates the been-there-done-that/old hat niche of the SNode. For the many of us cardinal signs esp Libra-Aries Nodes, any thoughts as to resolving without retreading old ground?

kim falconer
kim falconer

With transiting SNode on your Eris opposite Venus/Uranus, with T Nnode on the Ve/Ur midpoint about now, I don’t think you will tread old ground. (did I get that chart right?) It’s like Heraclitus said – you can’t step in the same river twice. It’s not the same water and you aren’t the same person. This is the approach you want to take. Something familiar might activate a techy feeling . . . an irritation or tolerattion and you can use this activation of the Aries – Libra axis, bringing a new approach to the situation. It’s complicated by having… Read more »

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omg. i have libra NN- libra is on my 11/12 with Pluto on cusp but IN 12H. so wow and just noticed that i could use some sonny/cher type unlocking as that seem to run interception on InTerception! is so awesome…will have to look at my chart- Thank YOU for asking and Thank you Kim! always loved your style**

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