Bruce Jenner Out Zaps The Zap Zone

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 Bruce Jenner was once hailed as the greatest athlete in the world and later became a reality television star with one of the world’s most famous families. Now, the former Olympian is revealing a secret that has caused him turmoil for decades. “For all intents and purposes, I’m a woman,”

 

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Okay so my god. SO timely. And how many people will this interview be stunningly healing for?  I am humbled. I have gone from being cynical and dismissive of the Kardashian realm to thinking it might actually be some sort of Uranian manifestation of genius. Admittedly, part of that might be a version of Stockholm Syndrome, courtesy of having a teenage daughter.  So i’ve been sucked into finding the Kardashian and Jenner clan vaguely hypnotic, soothing even.

But Jenner’s delivery and discussion of his journey from Olympian to reality tv star to (arguably) the world’s most high profile and media documented gender transiting person was breath taking in its charm and honesty.

So naturally we look at his astro and transits.

He’s Scorpio – Sun in Scorpio and Moon in Aquarius squaring the Sun/Scorpio Ascendant. No comment on whether Sun-Moon squares make you more likely to be uncomfortable with your original gender identity. Like really, i don’t know. I have Sun Moon Quincunx – go figure.

Bruce Jenner is having Jupiter on his Midheaven/Pluto in Leo right now – way to work that transit.  Nobody would ever dare “predict” or even suggest that a person with Jupiter crossing their Midheaven or in aspect to their Pluto = “go on a global network to talk to a television icon about your sex change operation and emotions” but it sort of fits. I gather the whole deal is going to be televised.

Jenner has Uranus on his North Node in Aries all year AND Pluto is squaring it for the next two. So yes Pluto is change and all that and a person with Pluto in Leo on the Midheaven might not want to go hush-hush on it but this is over the top. It’s like he’s taken the most outrageous expression of a Uranus-Pluto transit and done a lucrative tv deal for it all.

Astro-Fiends: He has Neptune/Mercury on his South Node in Libra, also bought into this whole Zap Zone A Rama. This cycle all seemed to have begun with Saturn over his Scorpio Ascendant/Sun in late 2012.

Anyway, i asked my daughter, triple Gemini and avid Kardashian/reality consumer what she thought of BJ’s transition and the interview. Cue teenage shrug and “whatever, cool.

Thoughts?

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jediwarriormonk
jediwarriormonk

OH! And I figured out the whole Bruce Jenner thing! I think he has been both metaphorically (and maybe soon physically) castrated by the Kardashian women. I don’t mean this offensively in anyway to transgender people! Rather I think it is a reflection on the Kardashian’s themselves. From what I can tell, not many people have really watched the show. I have watched lots and even the brother, Rob, has his own issues, part of which seem to come from living in the shadows of the females of the family

floatingby
floatingby

I know how much Mystic dislikes Uranus jokes/puns. And because of this, I shall refrain.

moonstark
moonstark

god, finally someone who watches the show! i would kill to be their astrologer. it’s so fun knowing their charts & then watching them interact with one another. Maybe it’s my Aries moon but long live the matriarchy! also bruce is so fuqing masculine, like crotchety, aggro, super conservative old man. seems like he hasn’t changed a damn thing about his core self, like EVER, not even like 1 opinion. So this is Wild. I find him totally off-putting on the show — he just can’t relate to a human person… ??He’s supremely awkwaaaard. I think he’s a caring person… Read more »

jediwarriormonk
jediwarriormonk

you know, I was a believer in the whole ANZAC thing; in that I find it a tradgedy and makes me want to cry to think of all those people that not only died in really horrific ways because of really shitty decisions made by higher ups but really, the ones that were left behind. Every time an act of violence occurs against someone there is this whole ripple effect that fuqs up not only the immediate people around them but potentially further generations. So I guess while I feel on one hand I do undersand why the question was… Read more »

firefish
firefish

Actually I’m wondering if this is the real energetic zeitgeist stuff, paving the way for kind of a new reality, I read a really interesting thing recently about crossing gender that somehow (ok going to sound really hippie now) this is us collectively sorting out our ‘oneness’ , if this is the new paradigm then all those owning publically their crossovers are healing the separation and in a way (to quote beautiful Kurt(RIP)) ‘everyone is gay’……funny, just heard that song today, ant that line jumped out at me ….have been watching this series on lovefilm called ‘defiance’ about a futuristic… Read more »

firefish
firefish

Ahhh…interesting, just read Marina over at darkstar Astrology, the next full moon is about ‘coming out’!

sphinx
sphinx

Found this very interesting astrologically and then also, the whole self awareness, or not, of the Kardashian/Jenner clan. You know, us watching them, them watching us watching them etc. Who is playing who and what is at stake and what are the odds and who is being sacrificed on the altar and is it worth it? Maybe for them it’s all worth it. Except for the brother I guess. Anyway, it seems Fame is the biggest character in this scenario, more powerful than the audience (who as most here say, don’t wanna know but well, kinda do) or even the… Read more »

floatingby
floatingby

This also reminds me of the particles within the world of quantum physics, whereby the mere fact of being observed, affects their behaviour.

jediwarriormonk
jediwarriormonk

now there’s food for thought…

ScorpSolAquaLuna
ScorpSolAquaLuna

Also Scorpio Sun & Scorpio Ascending & Aqua Moon – w/ Jupiter in my MC.

I’m loving that gif. Rock on, Bruce!

meohmi
meohmi

Who cares? All the peeps who are Transgender n their families, all the peeps who ate other than ur straight norm, all the peeps who have had yo depend their life pretending yo be something else got fear. Of being slammed. Its a great thing dome one of his profile has gone d o public. Immediate normalization (or a move towsrd. ) gives all those young kids hope too. Amazing

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

Oh and BRUCE JENNER FOR PRESIDENT!
Transgender is the new black!

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

I feel like should add “I’m kidding” after everything I say lately. I really am just trying to inject a little humour into a world that feels somewhat bleak and baffling when I take it too seriously which unfortunately I am prone to do. I don’t mean to offend ANYONE. I realise that I am coming across as deliberately provocative and somewhat childish. My moon squares my sun and I’ve always been insecure or unsure of my own sexuality myself. I don’t come across that way so I hide behind arrogance but my friends have always been outcasts and misfits… Read more »

Paint it Black
Paint it Black

The Dragon Tattoo made you do it.

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

<3
Thank you for your compassion / understanding. Bit low atm tbh
Trying not to let it get you me.
Just feeling so f**ked up
Hate that I'm not writing, not playing guitar (can't atm) mostly hate that I started smoking those vile cigarettes. Forgot how addictive they are. I just have to pick myself up and stop.
Just feel crazy lately and practicing self care is hard. I guess I'm a bit depressed. Been having anxiety attacks and feel so stuck. Change is hard.

Pi
Pi

you know, I think a song like Pawn Shop Blues would sound just right, with a guitar missing a couple of strings. Maybe you can mess it around a bit 😉 I went thru a marlboro reds phase when I was in my late teens, haha I don’t know what it is with smoking. when I was training pretty hard recently, I would get a totally inexplicable desire for a cigarette. I don’t know why. I’m not a regular smoker – maybe one or two (cigarettes, not packs) every month or even less frequently. And usually my feeling towards smoking… Read more »

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

Ah thanks Pi You know how much better that made me feel? I dunno WHAT is WITH me lately – and now the smoking thing? Bleh. I’m on like 3 a day max. I did manage a short gym session and I worked a good few hours on the project I’ve unconsciously been avoiding / allowed myself to be distracted from. I think the real sadness for me is that this always felt like suck a safe space where I could say anything and now that I know that creep is reading everything I write I realise I can’t share… Read more »

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

such – typo

birdstargirl
birdstargirl

such typo, many smarts

i’m starting a new trend that involves people talking to each other and making music and writing letters in the same physical space.

we’re meeting in ankh’s barn.

no wifi allowed. just follow the cackling.

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

How cool!
A Rumi–nating barn.
We can celebrate like the three women dancing in the 3 of cups. By moon light and yes, make music, write letters, talk face to face. That would be so cool. 🙂

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Wait, what? No wifi? I can run the router out to the barn: just need some cable… a few hundred feet of it or so… #ruraltekhacks

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

This is going to sound like bulshit but I swear ON MY LIFE that my first thought was “I’ll bring some cables.”
I don’t know why I didn’t write it. I had visions of showing up with 50 metres of extension chords under my arm!

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

@DoubleKataka We are being played. You put it so succinctly. That’s really all I’m trying to say with my flippant, irreverent musings. I first read about Kim Kardashian on this site. I asked my hairdresser who she was and he piled a bunch of gross magazines on my lap. I tried but honestly they don’t intrigue me, they make me sad. I had to ask a friend to ask who Bruce Jenner was last night because I had no idea. One of my gay best friends who adores him. We didn’t discuss politics. Honestly, I feel that I had a… Read more »

doublekataka
doublekataka

The Kardashian-Jenner family are fantastically good at keeping people’s attention on them. It’s a true talent, but not one I’m interested to celebrate, ever. 80 million-dollar deals or no. Let’s remember Kris as the woman who didn’t bother not return a phone call from her best friend Nicole Brown Simpson, on the day of her murder. Let’s remember Robert Kardashian as the man who drove the car in the OJ chase. Not the greatest people that ever came along. While Bruce’s visibility and public bravery has got to be good for trans people, this all just smells. We are being… Read more »

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

yes please!

Lady L
Lady L

+1

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Also: Australians/Chris Lilley Fans–seen this??

Pi
Pi

Oh god, I wish I was Chris lilley. The pure joy of becoming 20 different characters …

The Venus Fly 2.0
The Venus Fly 2.0

Can’t get into Anglo Saxon brown/yellow face. Especially in Australia where brown and Asian folks continue to have their stories packed away in favor of Anglo Australian beached bronzed/outback narratives.

Paint it Black
Paint it Black

I am Chris Lilley.
At one school they thought Mr G had come to do a promo when l arrived. I am 68% as talented as him.

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Saturn has been traversing his 1st house since it arrived in Scorpio during the fall (Northern Hemisphere) of 2012 – Saturn transits often deal with how we define ourselves and it’s why they frequently coincide with major life accomplishments, i.e. marriage, parenthood, homeownership, a significant career achievement, etc. I’m sure Bruce probably has an acute sense that time’s a-wastin’ away and is just keepin’ it real….a Scorpio Sun/Rising having Saturn transiting their 1st would be all about separating the wheat from the chaff so energy can be conserved and focused on the Self in whatever area(s) matter most. Cutting the… Read more »

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

😀 Yes! Also, “Ain’t No Wifey”. For Kris 😛

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

From an astro perspective it makes sense…Leo! Pluto! Jupiter!

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Yeah! And Pluto-Lilith!

Paimt it Black
Paimt it Black

I had to look him up bcos, as a sportzfan, l was miffed l didn’t know the person. Reason: he (that’s how he wants to be referred to) did track and field. To me if it aint got a ball it’s not interesting; jmo.

Anyways the most shocking thing is, he has come out as a Republican.

As for this phenomona the (special) Ks?
They might have form
but they have no function.

My Uranianess & Virgoan placements don’t understand vacuity.

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

What is wrong with being a Republican? I know a few Republicans who are awesomely kinky. actually much more fun sexually than the Democrats I’ve known. I think people are so afraid of being disliked that even the who you vote for politically has become a form of slut shaming. Good for Bruce for “coming out as a Republican” lol I wish more Republicans would “come out” Being Liberal is so trendy now that people are almost as terrified of confessing their political views as they are of publicly coming out as transgender. Democracy requires the engineering of consent” Noam… Read more »

Paint it Black
Paint it Black

I’m on the left of politics. In Oz we have a low Scorp PM who equivalises with the GOP over your way.
Basically l see the Left as the ppl who give assistance to ppl who need it. The Right give assistance to ppl who don’t.

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

HELL yeah. I like that Bruce is complex and doesn’t feel the need to change his political opinions just because people expect him to. I’m not a Republican but I support people in their right to think for themselves.

I also feel like just as the Republican party uses abortion/pro-life stance to control the votes of the simple-minded, the Democrats use gay rights to control the votes of similarly one-dimensional thinkers who like to consider themselves “progressive”. It’s so dumb.

Also are people *really* surprised that anyone from this family is Republican? lol

The Venus Fly 2.0
The Venus Fly 2.0

Hyper capitalist to the hilt, so no, lol.

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

Maybe it’s just because I am familiar with this particular LA/Orange County California type who votes based on whoever is gonna give them the biggest tax break…but yeah, absolutely no surprise to me. :p

Lady L
Lady L

“If he was running for any office where I had the right to vote, he’d have mine in the bag.”

Really?

You would vote for someone whose policies you knew nothing about?

Do you even understand where Republicans stand on women’s rights?

Just because someone is recognisable, rich or a recycled celebrity du jour does not make them a good choice politically.

You lost me at Reagan… what an intellectual vacuum he was.

The Venus Fly 2.0
The Venus Fly 2.0

They lost me at the Republican kink comment. I know how drugged out so many are let alone lascivious from experience but the hypocricy of espousing faux morality to cover it? Can’t do it.

Tickles me that Liberal is used as a slur. Liberty and justice for all…only in reciting pledges. Those who actually walk the walk are kooks and jokes.

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

I was being a little tongue in cheek above. I really don’t know enough about American politics to be mouthing off about it. And the kinky thing was a joke. I just had “republicans make better lovers” running through my head. It was amusing to me at the time and still is. I wasn’t referring to drugs or even specific policies. From what I know any political party is made up of people and the people in that party have an ability to engineer new policies or keep old ones in place. The way a party is perceived, or even… Read more »

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

If he has a better six pack and tush than Bama, he gets my vote.

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

Hey I actually agree that the most shocking/ interesting thing is that he’s come out as a republican. I just didn’t express that very well and was using humour to deflect the sadness I feel at this vacuous hole in the soul we call popular culture.

The truth is I don’t really care about any of it. I just like the contrast of him being republican and a transgender.

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

person
transgender, republican person.
ahem!
god forbid I should be politically incorrect!

DP
DP

Haven’t read the comments yet so not sure if someone’s said this before BUT- Moon square Ascendant seems to scream “interior-exterior conflict”… the person you are inside at odds with who you are on the outside. Perfect.

akapluto
akapluto

Humans…craziest animal ever.

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

Lol, yeah. Hey i’ve got a great idea, lets make MORE!

******Waldemort L chuckes*************
Love what you’ve done with the place …

NOT!

Seagoat
Seagoat

Discussions about transgender processes are fascinating and enlightening … Maybe gender is a social construct after all (who knew?) and at last there is a move towards developing a discourse for exploring what this means in terms of identity and connection.

Seagoat
Seagoat

I’m ignoring the ANZAC hype and commodification of our family members who couldn’t even speak about their experiences … I’m also ignoring it because there are civilians that never had a chance to decide .., I’m ignoring it because it is disrespectful of the pain and loss caused a militaristic response to world problems..

Lady L
Lady L

Same here. I so loved Mystic’s answer above about why she’s NOT done an Anzac post. Reading her response made me so happy.

I am so over war. Not even just official war, but war on all levels.

“Lest we forget.” The majority will never ‘get’ what this means. It also means not to repeat our past mistakes. Too late, especially with village idiot Tony Abbott as Australia’s PM.

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

can wear please use she? Let’s practice pronouns together here piabs. Haute.

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

I believe that Bruce has said that he wishes to be referred to by male pronouns until the transition is more complete. People are using “he”/”his” to respect his wishes for now.

Birdstargrl
Birdstargrl

I wrote a response about my missing nuance and it disappeared. But thank you, I meant something different than I typed. Your point definitely stands. I was thinking about practice in terms of the complexity of language and since I can’t finesse the post I’ll do my practice as observer today!

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

shout out to Venus square mercury. I love you linguistics but it’s just not working out.

Pi
Pi

“Do my practice as an observer today”
This is genius and puts into words what I have been feeling more lately 🙂 xxx thanks bsg

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

According to some astrologers a sun-moon square makes you unstable in marriage and unlikely to be married for long periods of time.

Good for Jenner I say! Live life to the fullest I say!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

The astro is fascinating. You never know how Jupiter will blow something up, but it will. And you can never be certain how a person will express their natal chart, but they will. We all have unique creative expression. I do think its an expression of Scorp Sun square Aqua Moon personality. I don’t know why, but I also feel like its a particularly important cultural moment for the Pluto-Scorp generation.

Pi
Pi

Pluto scorpio breaking down ideas of what defines gender/sexuality in the same way Pluto Libra broke down ideas of what makes a relationship?

Pi
Pi

Exploring an idea here. Pluto in Leo . Before then had anyone used the term “royalty” other than for actual royalty,? Suddenly the generation looked up to gilded personas whose influence on lives was more profound than any leader. Thus we got Rock royalty. Etc. Power glamour worship was no longer reserved for those ordained by whomever. rules changed or deleted. and Pluto moves on.

akapluto
akapluto

This is so true. My mom is Pluto Leo, now 60 years old and still considers Mick Jagger royalty.

Libra9
Libra9

Mick Jagger is God

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

@Libra9
Amen!

just jude
just jude

I hate when people compare Mick Jagger to God.
I mean, he’s awesome – but he’s no Mick Jagger!

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

hahahahahhahhahahaa
I hate writing “literally” and lol but I am busting a gut right now. tears streaming belly laugh.
Beaut!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I think so. I am a huge fan of the Pluto in Scorpio generation. And the Pluto in Sag. The wheel turns…

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

The other day my daughter was thirsty at the store, so I bought her some water. She drank some and said “That’s so sad. Its so sad you can trade paper for water.” And at first I didn’t get what she was saying, so she clarified “Paper with dead presidents on it. For water. Water.” She is soooo Pluto in Saggo.

pi
pi

ah, see…. it begins

Lizbeth
Lizbeth

Wow 12th H v
Your daughter speaks truth.
That is PROFOUND.
How did you handle it?
I’d have clammed up totally.
You can trade paper for water.
Shit, that’s intense.
What’s her astro again?

Super Saggo
Super Saggo

The thing I don’t get is that when transgender person comes out and declares their intention to transition, the public always reacts like it’s the first time anything like this has ever happened? Like, how many times does it have to happen before people get over it – some people are trans, gawd, it’s 2015.

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

exactly…I guess it’s finally gone mainstream.
I dunno know I’ve been around trans people my entire life. ?
Good question.

Renae
Renae

Thats the point i was trying to make… Charlie blew me to hell for it… I just kinda accept it as normal … Thats a nice story i hope he/she can adjust & be happy… i dont see a line anymore – gay/straight/bi/transgender – just all people doing the best we can.

Skye
Skye

It’s terrible that a person feels they need to declare or hide their true selves instead of just being allowed to be.

Society doesn’t adapt as quickly as it should.

toroloco
toroloco

SHE. Bruce Jenner is a she and I keep wondering why the media, why everyone, keeps referring to this very public transgender person as a man especially when she’s just stated that she is a woman. I can’t even care about the Kardashians, but this is becoming, if at least for me, a study in why the fuck the media can’t get Bruce’s pronouns right. Is it a huge case of denial or just plain disrespect by now? /end rant

The Venus Fly 2.0
The Venus Fly 2.0

Didn’t Bruce state to be called he until he notified everyone of her name?

jediwarriormonk
jediwarriormonk

I think maybe.it .just takes time for.people.to.adjust? Perhqps it.isn’t intentional.. thoughtless perhaps but.not in a mean way?

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

That’s what I read.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Yeah, so chillax toroloco. No red flag waving going on here. I know, I know: Mars in Taurus 😉 It’s cool.

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

Diane Sawyer said he has asked to be referred to as ‘he’ for now.

Loquacious Air with a Scorpio Moon
Loquacious Air with a Scorpio Moon

Glad someone else said it. All the “he”s after announcing she was a woman made me supertwitchy (and I think you can use the correct pronoun without official name change announcements – tho I can understand Super Saggo’s point – but Bruce announced she was a woman, which amounts to pronoun request, IMO).

DP
DP

Oh now I think this is a bit unfair. I don’t think it’s intentional disregarding the wishes of the transgender person. Notions of gender and the related pronouns run VERY deep and it can be hard to adjust. I know I have a hard time sometimes keeping my pronouns straight with people who are on various stages of the transition process.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

So awesome, so Authentic. I wonder where his Lilith is…

Lizbeth
Lizbeth
Lizbeth
Lizbeth

I’d wager he has a 12th or an 8th house Lilith. Possibly conjunct Eris and his sun, or perhaps his natal Lilith has progressed into the first and is on his ascendant or maybe he has some complex Neptune Sqare Venus, Mars, Uranus vibe going on. Whatever he has, he is important and he’s achieve more than the entire Kardashian crew put together. The dude was an olympic gold medalist. He achieved more as a man in terms of performance than 99% of men on the planet. Now he’s becoming/ has become/ whatever A WOMAN and doing it publicly ..… Read more »

Pi
Pi

this is highly un-helpful and is not meant to be a passive-aggressive IDKWTF but I honestly have no idea who Bruce Jenner is. If it helps, when jupiter transited over my MC and opposed Pluto, then Uranus just now, I probably would have quite liked some kind of shiny TV thing too 😉 . I have to add to Venusian 2.0 above where I am actually a bit puzzled about what transgender folks must imagine it must be like to be a woman. I KNOW it is amazingly complex and complicated and personal, I am not an idiot. But if… Read more »

Pi
Pi

“quiz” in terms of mercury curiosity, not like some kind of hideous corrective interrogation, lawd

The Venus Fly 2.0
The Venus Fly 2.0

Respectful, friendly and genuine conversation is usually welcome by genuine folks. He’s evidently longed for this reality for aeons. Trans rights have been gaining momentum over the last 4 years, as well as more visibility with Google offering to pay for employees gender reassignment and Orange Is The New Black’s Laverne Cox as well as high profile reporting on the murders of trans women. The new show ‘Transparent.’ It’s like a third gender binary is demanding it’s place in every day life. Interesting, complex stuff, huh? 🙂

Anon And On
Anon And On

As a trans* person, I’ve concluded that my gender ideals are just that: ideals that illustrate a longed-for state. My best comparison is to romance: what we long for romantically is often not the exact reality we get, but we still long for it if we’re single. Imagine doing that toward gender. Also worth pointing out that being a woman is experienced differently by each woman, and that femininity or the desire to wear frilly dresses is well, LOOKED DOWN on generally. So when a trans* person dreams of going all “high femme” it’s not just one expression of womanhood,… Read more »

Skye
Skye

Very well put.

Pi
Pi

Thank you very much Anon & on xxx I also like the idea of holding out for frilly-dress realities as a way to thumb ones nose at less polarised norms. I don’t know if that makes sense outside my head tho. Xx

The Venus Fly 2.0
The Venus Fly 2.0

Thanks for sharing one aspect of your POV 🙂

Renae
Renae

Im kind of shocked – and i love your posts and what you do please dont get me wrong – that on this day you have focused on reality tv & not reality – the men and women who protected us, fought for us & died for us – so we live as we do today – free people…?

sphinx
sphinx

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/political-rhetoric-makes-a-parody-of-remembrance-20150422-1mqdc2.html?rand=3002601

This article explains further Renae.
But what Mystic said I can’t agree with more.
I hope you can value and understand her point of view as it is the kind of mental shift we need as a society and individually.

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Holy shit – what a Saturn-in-Sagittarius-square-Neptune-in-Pisces-themed article that is….!! People sometimes forget that Sagittarius is The Propagandist…with Saturn here squaring Neptune, the government certainly IS all about the spin…!

I am *not* looking forward to the 2016 election here in The States – this square gets into full swing leading up to it, and I predict it’s going to be an epic shitshow…moreso than the usual farce it is.

I am weighting the possible costs/benefits of expatriating as we speak, LOL….I’m only half joking.

The Venus Fly 2.0
The Venus Fly 2.0

I’ve encountered quite a few transgender folk in my lifetime so this is nothing new/shocking to me. And I’m all about radical authenticity, so, if getting gender reassignment therapy and transitioning into a transgender identity will make one happy, go for it. BUT…but…I can’t get with that one “I dream like a woman” comment. It kinda irks me a smidgen. Sometimes I wonder if the IDEAL of womanhood that some transgender women prop up pre-transition doesn’t veil some patriarchal myth/imagining of what is MUST be like to be a woman. I’m feminist, I don’t want to be lumped into some… Read more »

Renae
Renae

I think he got left out, talked down too, felt unimportant and is blowing everyone away for a larger slice of celebrity – who cares? Be a man, be a woman – be true to you, be happy – but most people do this in stages & privately – like chers son. The ones who really are – transgender & cannot live in the body the were born with happily. So shoot me but that is my opinion.

Charley
Charley

You know who cares? All the trans people and kids still struggling with their identities (trans people have a horribly high suicide rate). Seeing someone publicly discuss their transition on this scale is SO important for the advancement of trans visibility and rights. I don’t think you are qualified to judge who is ‘real trans’ and who isn’t.

DP
DP

Bravo and well said.

Super Saggo
Super Saggo
Super Saggo
Super Saggo
Super Saggo
Super Saggo

From the Serano link. Perhaps the most visible example of trans-misogyny is the way in which trans women and others on the trans female/feminine spectrum are routinely sexualized in the media, within psychological, social science and feminist discourses, and in society at large. For example, the media not only regularly depict trans women’s bodies and experiences in a titillating and lurid fashion, but they also sexualize trans women’s motives for transitioning e.g., by portraying them as either sex workers, sexual deceivers who prey on unsuspecting heterosexual men, or as male “perverts” who transition to female in order to fulfill some… Read more »

Anon And On
Anon And On

It’s super important that some people transition publicly. “Do it privately” is like “go back in the closet” to some. Also, Jenner is a role model to a lot of peeps who don’t know what to do about their trans* identity. There IS (apparently) an astro connection to gender difficulty, and it is the placement of the asteroid Pallas — being the asteroid of androgyny AND creativity, it’s placement shows the location we’re most likely to cross gender boundaries e.g. conjunct the Moon, and we feel strongly about these issues; in the First House and an androgynous presentation may appeal… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Pallas hey? I have her in my second house and in an exact trine to Aries MC and Eris, and exact sextile to Pluto and IC. hmm…I do get kind of feral about financial gender divides and the thought of being long term dependent financially on a partner makes my skin crawl, ugh, the power dynamics, the identity issues LOL well there u go.. I have issues obviously haha I think it maybe came up in the gemini rising fashion post – gemini and androgyny, at least sartorially maybe but that is not to diminish anything deeper, .. (it wasn’t… Read more »

@laurabloomify
@laurabloomify

Thanks for this. Agree.

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