Dakota Johnson’s Fire Deficit

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So i don’t usually listen to snark but the widely expressed opinion “this is the least famous person ever to grace the cover of Vogue” were my thoughts as well.   Although, to be fair, i was in discussion with Plutonic-Uranian about it and he (as a beauty industry insider C.F.O. type) said that decisions like Dakota or Kardashian for Vogue and Kendall Jenner for Estee Lauder were totally about reviving tired brands and enticing millennials.  Not a stoop but a savvy biz move.

BUT she looked strangely vulnerable AND obviously Shades adds to all that – no i haven’t seen it but i did read The Story Of O. That at least has lit cred. This looks more like a Mills and Boon with extra kink. It would have been better with Charlize Theron as the billionaire and Joaquin Phoenix/Rupert Friend/Jeremy Renner as the head-of-security/kinky dude.

But hey, I ain’t the lady-author basically becoming the J.K. Rowling of clit-lit – E.L. James is clearly some sort of a strange genius.  She is Pisces – her birthday is this Friday. She has Sun-Jupiter in Pisces trined by Neptune – fantastic for art. Also, Ms James has Venus, Mercury and Saturn conjunct in Aquarius opposite Mars in Leo – fantastic vibe for detached but theatrical hi-jinks.  Venus in Aquarius is – how can we say this politely? – not so much interested in merging as they are in technique.  The sequel, 50 Shades Freed, has already been filmed.

BTW wasn’t the woman arrested for being drunk and masturbating during a screening of this film awesomely Lower Jupiter in Leo?  She probably also had loud clashing prints on as well + a big hair thing. Inhaling too much hair product might have been what tipped her over the edge. Next say, when she got out of jail, she would have gotten home still hungover and blamed her psychic.

Anyway, back to Dakota. She is beautiful and she probably can act. The S.N.L ISIS skit was insane and something she should have shunned.  Astrologically, i worry about her in show-biz because she basically has NO FIRE in her chart – she is Libra, with a Moon probably in Scorpio – we don’t know her birth time – and tonnes of Earth. She’s all Air, Earth and Water – super-sensitive.

But successful careers in showbiz need FIRE – not necessarily as your Sun Sign but definitely there in strength.  Fire is teflon-coated-aura, putting your lipstick on and strutting out to defiantly face the paparazzi. Technically, Dakota COULD have a Fire Ascendant – Leo, Aries or Sagg but she does not look it.

And, of course, her parents – Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith, a Saggo and a Leo respectively, are Fire incarnate.   They were at their peak in the Neptune in Sagittarius era – the late Seventies & early Eighties.

Thoughts?

Don Johnson and Melanie Griffiths

 

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phoenix in saturn
phoenix in saturn

I don’t know if I have any fire in me either! Can someone point out where I can find out my dominant / lacking elements? 🙂 Thanks!

phoenix in saturn
phoenix in saturn

I don’t know if I have any fire in me either! Can someone point out where I can find out my dominant / lacking elements? 🙂

supercal
supercal

have you got a natal chart made up at astrodienst.com? it’s very easy if not, and if/when you do there will be a small grid to the bottom right that separates placements by element

Leoscorpgem
Leoscorpgem

Am so tickled this book has gone to shit. Am I awful? No. I WISH I could be the JK of “erotic lit” and opt a movie… But wait for it…… At the turn of sat -scorp I met a man….a kinky man…who was raving over the genius of the aforementioned Pisces writer…. I responded…ugh, that’s such shit….and he said to me “yes but you should pay attention, she built it in an e-book (hello excel spreadsheet comment!!!), and this the overhead? Begging a publisher? Self-publi$hed. Have no idea if he was lying but …. Lets just say he was… Read more »

DoubleMutable
DoubleMutable

I have no fire either…just Neptune in Saggitarius which is like….meh. Visionary, maybe. Fiery? no. I am double air (sun-ascendant), with a whole bunch of earth and water. Way more sensitive and intuitive than many credit Geminis with being. But I often wish I had that….energy, drive, oomph, fire! I seem to be attracted to fiery people, though – either Leos (was with one for 6 years and he had Mars in Leo too), or hyper Librans with a bunch of fire. My Libra soulmate has Moon in Aries – while his shameless demands for what he wants/needs sometime makes… Read more »

monte
monte

Yeah, kinda don’t agree with actors need a load of fire. They can be any sign or element.

als
als

I don’t agree either. The element that I noticed often in actors’ chart is a detached Moon – Cap or Aqua. Actually I think a detached Moon is required in public figures.
Other than that, just like in any business, one needs resilience. Joaquin Phoenix does not put a show for the paps, nor does ScarJo, they just do their jobs.
This girl may not have a natural born bling but she surprised everyone by getting the best reviews in this Grey movie. I think she will keep surprising people, being blah does not mean being untalented or unprofessional.

Libra in the zz
Libra in the zz

I have no fire in my chart except for my Leo north node — should I put my Hollywood aspirations on hold?

Darrell
Darrell

Well, using a midday chart this gives her a Sagittarian Moon, at 4-5 degrees, conjunct Saturn in Sagittarius.. She also has a Mars in Libra conjunct her Libra Sun.. And Lilith in Scorpio & Venus in Scorpio!!! Yes, maybe water signs, but ruled by Mars, the god of War.. Scorpio is not a weak, meek sign.. Scorpio, is a real survivor…..

Z
Z

I guess for Melanie having this Karmic union with a Leo dude (Don) was nothing as she was used to hanging out with lions all her life.

david5379
david5379

I liked her on ben and kate and I am sad she had to do this, she was genuinely pretty good comedically. Element deficits are interesting, I only have venus in aries and its the weakest planet I have too.

supercal
supercal

she does have a limpid look, as distinct to limp, which some seem to think of her. I have to say that because I have next to no fire in my chart either….

BUT here’s something that is really something – I drew up my grandfather’s chart today, ALL WATER AND AIR! NO fire at all and NO earth to speak of. How interesting. I checked his chart because my sister and I were talking today about what an interesting character he was. Jupiter conjunct Uranus in Aqua to boot.

Lo
Lo

I have not seen the movie or read the book. But, i was wondering how many famous young actresses tried for the part? I cant recall seeing dakota in anything…is this her debut? from what i hear the movie and book are just a sanitized version of BDSM…nothing with substance or true to the lifestyle. I am beginning to think that this whole 50 shades phenomena along with bondage wear being quite popular in fashion, was a total saturn in scorpio thing! Perhaps she CAN act ,but it seems her timid looking persona / low fire was probably what got… Read more »

moonstark
moonstark

melanie griffin is super dull as an actor, imo. just saw working girl for the first time and it was sooo boring. i expected cheesy, but she just had no oomph.

apparently dakota’s acting is the best thing about this trashtastic movie, as far as reviews are saying. She may be low on fire but she has a fuqload of squares in that chart between sun/mars conj and the outer planets.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Wouldn’t like to be her mother knowing the ex is being seen with a MUCH younger woman a lot. Dakota’s grandmother and her mother were not dramatic actors with a dynamic presence and so it is passed on. No sexual fire in any of the 3 ladies of cinema let alone astro fire. Don’t think she was great choice for the role for a movie of a silly book, so bland. So ‘grey’? As mentioned The story of O was quite brilliant, exotic and erotique nothing like this shade of wishy washy suburban B&D. Ok there have been enough send… Read more »

Verity
Verity

People with a lack of fire are so attractive!
But I do have an abundance of fire.
I love that photo illustrating Mr & Mrs as Fire incarnate. Hilarious.It looks shot for purpose.

Aries gal
Aries gal

How very interesting indeed. She does strike me as a piscean/aqua weirdo, but no fire? Yeah, I could of picked that. She’s a bland needs a bit of oomph!

One hit wonder? Probably.

Fears for her career after this – yeah appropriate.

She didn’t bring any life to her character…..

Mind you, I just don’t know HOW they let that movie, be created and completed the way that it was, SUCH a disappointment is such a understatement

Pegasus
Pegasus

Yup’ BLAND’ is the description.

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

THE HAIR on her parents! Looooove it!!

skarab
skarab

Off topic –
Go ahead and judge me – but I just haven’t been able to focus on anything since seeing those Astrological Boots in the Daily Mystic email. (Might have to have a consult with the PUCA to work out a financial/career plan to afford them) …. So Pucci has done an astrology collection?

Pegasus
Pegasus

EVERYONE’s doing an astro collection lately in some form of apparel.

Sasha
Sasha

She might have her sun in the fifth house?
If she has sagg ascendant she has virgo on the midheaven, she soooo plays that part right.
I also have a fire defecit but i think my leo ic, sun, merc in 5th house and uranus and neptune in h9 make up for it

Z
Z

Me, too, I have Sun ans Venus on the fifth.

Z
Z

Me, too, I have Sun ans Venus on the fifth.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I thought the SNL skit was hilarious.

Porkchop
Porkchop

Haven’t seen the sketch yet but when I read what it was about I LOLd. Sounds like it could be funny.

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Personally, in all honesty I think we would risk underestimating her if we looked purely at the lack of fire SIGNS in her chart – she does have that Saggo Moon, plus that Sun/Mars conjunction in Libra (That’s the Simon Cowell pairing, BTW) with Jupiter amping it up via a square, so I think this gal can probably hold her own despite first impressions. I mean, did you see the confrontation with her mom at the Oscars front-and-center on broadcast TV? You would have to expect that with Saturn sitting on her Saggo Moon, there might be some kind of… Read more »

akapluto
akapluto

Can’t a strong Mars/Sun/Jupiter 1st/5th/9th make up for some lack of fire?

I recall Ninja from Die Antwoord having very little fire in his chart- but LOOK at the dude- jumping around like a pogo stick at age 39! He has Mars in Libra, too- it’s fall. Sun in Libra, Venus in Virgo, Moon in Aqua. You’d think he’d end up a mild mannered art curator.

Something else going on there!

UltraSag
UltraSag

I think that sometimes if there’s an absence of an element in your chart, you can ‘overdo’ the missing element in an ‘off’ way.

For instance, someone who was lacking earth could become a total hoarder of possessions.

Not that I’m speaking from experience or anything. Oh no.

Z
Z

I also have very little fire in my chart and Mars in Libra. i can only hope to be jumping on a pogo stick like Ninja.

Calli Grafiti
Calli Grafiti

I also have a low fire chart: Mars in Sag and Saturn in Aries, everything else pretty much earth and air. (Lots of Virgo, so much Virgo, you’d think I’d be more organized, but I seem to manifest the gardener side of that sign, anyway . . . ) With both parents in the biz, Dakota might be trying to follow what would seem like a conservative career path in context–her contacts are in show biz, she gets the language and knows the terrain.I could see her reaching her Saturn return and remaking herself as a landscape architect or watercolor… Read more »

akapluto
akapluto

I’m with you on that. Good call.

Alouetta
Alouetta

That makes sense! And she does have the face of a landscape architect.

Charley
Charley

50 Shades of Get the Eff Out of Here. I read half and it was terrible, truly, in all the ways. It actually makes me quite angry.

Dakota reminds me of Charlotte Gainsbourg to look at, I keep doing double takes.

skarab
skarab

I only read a few paragraphs in a bookshop and put it back in disgust at the nothingness of it – and got angry too. Apart from the subject matter (*submission* by a woman again) – which does not interest me in the least – it is just so gawdamned badly written! I mean WTF!?…HOW?

I too thought of Charlotte Gainsbourg (though a softer version) when looking at this Vogue pic.

toromojorising
toromojorising

Hmm… I too have a chronic case of fire deficit in my chart, I’m all earth and water…and am super sensitive so fit the type. I wonder what the antidote to this is? I can’t change my birth time, but I wonder if there’s any way to overcome this lack of fire syndrome? The struggle is real….

pi
pi

If you can’t stand the heat…. Get someone else to cook while you relax with a drink? 😉 xx

toromojorising
toromojorising

Haha! Pi, I am very good at relaxing with a drink! x

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

I don’t have lots of fire in my chart either…

toromojorising
toromojorising

So… do you have trouble with confrontation and ‘getting fired up’ so to speak? It’s a recurring theme in my life. I’m fascinated by fiery people, perhaps because I lack fire?

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

perhaps, I do have a long fuse but when I do get mad it’s FIERY!
I’d dare say I have an extremely bad temper and a scorpion tailed tongue that stings.
I hate getting pissed off.
Perhaps that is my problem, I shouldn’t let it stew and express myself sooner.

Lady L
Lady L

Please please PLEASE don’t say E L James is some sort of genius. The book is tripe. I got to p 50 and threw it across the room. It could have been written with Excel sheet formulas inserting “oh my” every so often when she yet again, ad nauseum, describes how effing grey (50 shades – get it??) his effing eyes are. There is one sliver of silver (grey???) lining: If aliens got to Earth and found this book, they won’t bother invading us. Along with Kardashian worship, One Direction going up instead of down, and Tony Abbott as Australian… Read more »

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

My friend said the exact same thing – literally threw it across the room several times – so I never read it. Just heard some select quotes from her.

I wonder how Mystic would like Anastacia’s “inner goddess”……..

UltraSag
UltraSag

sRSly, if I had an inner goddess like that, I would fuqing strangle her for being so LAME.

Nobody snatches the ice cream from MY inner goddess!

Alouetta
Alouetta

Thoughts during reading it: do I laugh, do I get angry, do I finish the book? It was a confusing ride. I got to the end and realized I’d read a classic tale of emotional abuse and manipulation dressed up in romantic tropes (rich emotionally inaccessible guy, poor female who must earn his love- the hard way). I think I’d rather bash my head against a wall than watch the movie. The audiences sound amusing though- masturbation, inappropriate laughter. Apparently some drunk woman both vomited and shat herself during a showing. Everyone’s a critic 🙂

Aries gal
Aries gal

Whaaaaaaattttt…..

Love the book!

Movie, kill me now.

sphinx
sphinx

Lol, ‘everyone’s a critic’!

Z
Z

Yeah, the whole thing in love stories that dating up is the most wonderful thing that can happen to you (and that’s why you need a pretty princess gown to be seen by the man who will upgrade you) is so overrated . But apparently it turns a lot of people on still.

Taurus Vixen
Taurus Vixen

Her nose and teeth annoy me to the point I want to snatch her off to the Doctors to get them fixed. I just can not look at her without it bothering me like nails down a chalkboard. Other than that she is just flat boring.

pi
pi

I don’t get it, t vixen. Why would you do that? then she would look like every other Hollywood starlet. (See also actress Ludivigne Saigner.) it occurred to me that part of her appeal was that she looked more, how do you say, continental. As long as her next roles do not fall within Hollywood’s near-autistic vision of sexual typecasting for women then..yeah.

pi
pi

no offence intended to those living with autism,

pi
pi

Ugh typos Ludivine Sagnier

roadhouse41
roadhouse41

I sincerely doubt this girl will grow up to become an actress.

Sphinx
Sphinx

I can see her hitting her stride in 50’s maybe. Late bloomers the Cap Asc apparently, maybe her cheekbones & maturity will kick in or something. Acting is apparently a craft and so is learnable?

Veronica
Veronica

In the pic above, I could see her as I young Sharon Stone (if she had blonde hair)

Lady L
Lady L

Hello Photoshop.

Roadhouse41
Roadhouse41

The interview above depicts a girl who’s grown up wandering the red carpets and dodging into the restroom with her tween pals bored out of her mind amongst the corny velvet. She seemed like she was at her parents’ house, is what I mean.

With that level of disinterest it seems more like she became a movie star because that’s what you do if you’re from that kind of family. I bet she joins the Navy or something.

Pi
Pi

Oh, my , god. Yes. We need, no I NEED, to see more female billionaires (ok multimillionaires) in films, not heiress-vulnerable-can-only-be-redeemed-by-love but actual “this is my own fuqing money”. It would make my cappy moon very happy. Some kind of kingpin. Queenpin? Dakota j, if she is cap rising, and those cool good looks, ohhh maybe SHE can play the billionaire in 30 years time. Yes… 30, imagine seeing an interesting, powerful woman in her 50s in a film 🙂 You know I just decided to go and see 50shades the film purely because it is getting slammed, and being… Read more »

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

I saw it. The moment it ended I was outta there fast. It was truly awful IMO. The only thing that stopped me from walking out in the mide was that I had decided the film, in itself being so tediously torturing, was actually it’s own from of S&M.

I went and saw it to be contrary too. Save your money. Download it. Not worth paying for.

Z
Z

I saw it. Pretty funny because I was compelled to see it after all the news I read of people’s reactions to it but I went to screening last Saturday but there were less than 10 middle-aged people and myself, not the crazy hi-jinx of hormones that would belong to someone who would scream, laugh or fight at the movies (I was actually looking forward to something like that, the news have spoiled me). All the awkward S/M scenes made my mind think of the male Dom in the movie Nymphomaniac who could at least deliver the goods. And the… Read more »

Porkchop
Porkchop

OMG I love Rupert Friend as Quinn on Homeland *swoon*

Skye
Skye

Billy bob Thornton on Fargo. Omg I forgot how much I love watching that man.

Suzi
Suzi

Hey Mystic, Dakota Johnson’s Astro is in Astro DataBank with a Rodden rating of A. Sagittarius Moon, Capricorn Rising 🙂

4 October 1989 at 14:49 (= 2:49 PM )

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Johnson,_Dakota

Suzi
Suzi

PS… Libra Sun – Mars Conjunct 🙂

sphinx
sphinx

I’ll be snarkariffic and say she looks much older than her age…
Her father is a dazzling man with amazing skin and she looks like him but.. bedraggled, tired with papery skin.
She looked like a girl next door that got lost and ended up at the Oscars.

And her vulnerability is so passive it’s aggressive. (Is that a Libra thing?)

This is a great photo though! I don’t know anything about Shades.

MagicRabbit
MagicRabbit

My brother is a quadruple Libra, and YES THAT IS A THING.

Sweetest guy on earth, though.

So nice you want to punch him.

Yes I am Aries, how did you know???

Loquacious Air with a Scorpio Moon
Loquacious Air with a Scorpio Moon

…bugger.

Yeah, wielding passive vulnerability like a weapon is a thing. I just never linked it to my sign before.
I have pretty much no fire either – I’m mostly Air and Water, and yeah, it’s definitely a thing when you at least subconsciously know you aren’t up to punching-weight of our firey brethren and buggerbuggerbloodybugger now I need to go away and think about this…

sphinx
sphinx

Lol, ok it’s definitely a thing!! I have Sun/NN/Neptune in Fire I find that frustrating in myself and others. They pretend like, “i’m not doing anything” but really they are trying to find a way to give you so much rope to hang yourself with, the rope is their discomforting silent gaze, which they kind of taunt you with. I think it can be a way of inviting a lot of drama.

Z
Z

I honestly don’t think she looks like either parents.

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯

Did you guys catch this interview with MG & Dakota? You see MG put her arm around Dakota when she’s getting upset with her

http://youtu.be/Fu7fKsvwnjs

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯

I haven’t read the book or seen the film, not really into that stuff

sphinx
sphinx

Eek! That is SO uncomfortable!

Skye
Skye

Really interesting body language. Melanie is a Leo? Her posture and presence scream that she’s in charge. It’s quite funny because there is that teenage,” fine, don’t acknowledge me” element. Perhaps a consequence of having celebrity parents?
But it was an awkward interview all round.

Z
Z

Oh God what was that?

Skye
Skye

The charlize and renner combo I would actually see.
This… Well I never got past page 1 because it read so poorly. The trailer for the movie looks wooden and like you say mills and boon- with whips. But then maybe my Aqua sun needs more than just kink to sucker me in.

I can’t work out if Dakota will be multi talented and enduring or just plain forgettable. I can’t see fire there either. Perfect for the shades role I guess?

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