Ask Mystic: The Bermuda Triangle Of Lust

Patrick Nagel

Hey Mystic,

Hope you’ve been adapting well to the Zap Zone season. I have a question about the Mars/Pluto/Uranus action going on as of now: so I know a Gemini woman with her Chiron exact on my Sun in Scorpio. At first there was an instant connection, and we seemed to get along really well as friends. We bonded over her FWB situation (strictly casual) she had with a Leo, since he was romantically attracted to me, and kept on suggesting threesomes with me (when I wasn’t even part of the conversation… weird). I didn’t like him before, but then I got to know him and went on a few dates.

I updated the Gemini of the news asap, she was really emotionally hurt (her Eros is in Scorpio) but she was glad I’d told her, so I thought that the situation was all good and well. Long story short, it wasn’t- (the Leo pretended he didn’t know her). She lashed out and blamed me, spread rumors, all of the low-Gemini crap.

I decided to play it cool, give her the benefit of the doubt and attribute her behavior to hormones. Sent several texts requesting that we actually sit down and talk about why this all happened, and she blew them all off.

Now with all the Mars action, all of the resentment that I’ve had regarding this situation has come up, and I’ve been contemplating telling people what actually happened instead of the BS rumors that she’s propagated (she was in a relationship with him, I ruined it, etc.) The only reason why I haven’t done so is out of a respect of her privacy, but now I’m thinking that, hey, if she lacks both self-respect, respect for others, and respect for the truth, why should I keep her secret?

Would this be a decision I’d regret making..? Suggestions..?

As always, thanks for your advice.

-Miss Uranian

Hey Miss Uranian,

Wow this brings up a whole plethora of issues and modern dilemmas. Here are my thoughts in Mercury in Aries (amped by Uranus) bullet points.

* Leo Dude sounds like a piece of work – he has romantic feelings for you that he attempts to express by attempting to include you in a threesome?

* Your Gemini friend MAY be a rampant Love Zombie attempting to amplify her friends-with-benefits scenario into an actual relationship BUT it is also likely that Mr Leo misled her, right?  I mean he is hitting on her friends – romantic or not – and at the very least, clearly unaware that his little arrangement means a lot more to the Gemini than to him?

* Casual sex can create casual enemies. I think the key phrase here is “we bonded.”  Your Gemini friend felt you were on Team Gemini and you having it off with “Leo” violated that bond, casual or not.  Saturn was in Scorpio from late 2012 until Xmas 2014 and will be again for a few months mid-2015.  Deeper, mysterious undercurrents lurk beneath even the most seemingly sunny and shallow sensual waters.

* Her Chiron – Your Sun can be a painful hot mess – you learn a valuable lesson off one another. It’s a healing but as we know, the wound cleaning process is not always pleasant.

* I think Mr Leo will go ape during Venus in Leo for weeks on end later this year.

* Short of putting out a press release via social media to the effect that Gemini’s thing with the Leo was not serious (but unless you were present for their every interaction, you can’t actually prove this) what can you do?  I think you have four  options;

(1) See her point and that she feels betrayed, rationally or not. Send her a gift – bunch of flowers/scented candle – with a brief note saying you’re sorry she has such negativity around all this and that you would like to maintain your valued friendship.

(2) Just put her into the enemy camp, block-delete-ignore – maybe post some oblique quote from the Bible re such jealousy: Eg from the Song of Solomon even. Catch all the foxes, those little foxes, before they ruin the vineyard of love, for the grapevines are blossoming!  Your role model in this: Bilquis, Queen of Sheba. 

(3) If you want to be really Uranian, elope with the Leo and invite Gemini on the honeymoon. Pitch it as a Reality series.

(4) Delegate Leo dude to sort this out – right now i have a slightly unpleasant whiff of a flatulent ego, quietly engorged with the low-rent thrill of chicks fighting over him.

But what does everyone else think?

 

 

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cortazone
cortazone

Yet another classic example of what I refer to as ‘fucked-up logic’. People who operate under this tend to drag those people around them down into their quagmire of fucked-upness. E.g.: you and the other girl. Disengage. You can’t argue with fuck-up logic, ever.

cat
cat

Been there, done that.
Option 3.
Works like a charm.
AND, teaches a little lesson to ‘friend’ not to expect hot cake LOVE/relationship out of an FWB thing.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Can I say, it’s always best to be honest. Can’t understand why you’d go there when Leo seemed sleazy from day one. Sounds you’re pissed off gem is ignoring you, but she has reason to be upset. Bad decisions all round, but don’t beat yourself up. Take it on the chin and deal with it. Apologise if you get the chance otherwise move on. Sounds like that is what you’re doing. Love rivalry, jealousy and triangles, squares, pentagons cause ppl to behave badly. If you follow your heart and treat yourself and others with kindness you won’t have anything to… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I didn’t think of it right away, but I had a Gemini friend dump me over a lover. Not the same situation at all, but similar energy dynamic. I think Gemini’s are fine with sharing, so long as everyone continues to love them best. If you break the illusion that Gemini is loved best, you will be ignored, cut-off, and discredited. Or, so happened to me. And, apparently, you.

Pegasus
Pegasus

What do other’s think?
Sped read it by only reading Myst’s reply.
IMage was a different sort of 50 SHADES of Confusion & ‘shades’ has HADES in it.
Sheesh LInda Goodman would have pointed that out about hades in shades…lol.

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Here’s my tuppence worth to add to the very insightful comments above. Miss Uranian – You know, I doubt you and the Gem will ever be friends, it won’t matter what you do or don’t do by way of apology. I can’t imagine that the Gem would ever trust you again. Perhaps your Chiron-square lesson in this is that unfortunately you can’t have it both ways. You can’t explore your feelings/lust for a man your friend is involved with, and keep the friendship, no matter how ‘casual’ anyone says it is. Your letter to Mystic above seems very focused on… Read more »

cortazone
cortazone

^^ wise!

Libra Lass
Libra Lass

I am always astounded at how we fail to look at how others treat the people around them, ignore it, and then get shocked when they treat us the exact same way! I have a new rule with dating, I ask them about their relationship with their Mum, sister, ex-lovers (this is my rule, I’m a straight female who dates men) and watch how they speak about the women in their lives. With respect? Or stinking regret and utter disrespect? If any of them ignored a woman… well, excuse me sir will you kindly leave. I think it is really… Read more »

Libra9
Libra9

I met a Leo and he was the most luscious gorgeous creature ever. We had a little fling then he wanted to keep in touch. Oh, did I mention he had a wife? After 6 months of “chatting” I had to brush him off. He didn’t see anything wrong with keeping in touch with his fling, staying married but dictating when I could contact him.

As I was learning not to be a LZ I cast him aside. I think it is best in this situation as well.

As for the Gem friend. Just walk away.

meohmy
meohmy

I had this recently happen to me without the 3 some bit it’s not the first time either Its very hurtful and traverses boundaries and respect Its also just rude and pathet Go out into the big wide world and find your own boyfriend. Take the risks and the initiative and the vulnerability and find your own guy Instead of waiting in the corners of everyone else’s life Stop being a bottom feeder And have some loyalty and respect for other people , especially your friends . And maybe lok at your sibling relatithat yes it takes an effort and… Read more »

samantha
samantha

There’s a lot of good advice here and I’m only going to be repeating what has already been sent. I’ll add my bit, I’ve got a lot of uranian stuff in my chart and I went through this kind of thing in my twenties. – Even if your friend has given “permission” don’t go there. – Don’t expect anything from either of them any more. – Cultivate and value your female friendships, the good friendships will be there in 20 years and they will mean more to you than any guy you had a fling with. – Not all of… Read more »

LaLuz
LaLuz

She is not a friend of yours, an established one, in any case “we seemed to get along as friends” and he is not a true romantic interest of yours “we went on a few dates” and?… You have no true ties or interest in either of them, for GOOD reason, it seems. Keep it that way.

hdq
hdq

I don’t think I can comment without sounding really judgmental.
In this situation, he sucks, she sucks, you suck. Welcome to the human condition. We get hurt, and we hurt others, usually inadvertently. Own it, forgive everyone, DON’T forget, and move on. No free culpability passes and no twisting things for self-justification though. Own it.

hdq
hdq

Also, I am confused. Chiron was in Scorp in ’97-8ish. Either you’re wrong on that detail or she (or both of you?) are in your mid-to-late teens.

uranian
uranian

Whoops, meant Chiron in Leo is exact square my Sun.

hdq
hdq

Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying. 🙂
Betcha there’s some chironic synastry with Leo dude.

skarab
skarab

I don’t think that anybody in this little triangle was/is being honest. And the Leo lo life is playing you both. “She said that she felt hurt but that SHE was the one who desired to keep it casual.” Anything after the word “hurt” – is irrelevant, and you as a friend (and Scorp) should of picked that up immediately and backed off dating the lo Leo. “I knew he “lusted” after me and was actually fairly disgusted by him. Thought the Gemini was too good for him, even. I then got to know him through work, thought he wasn’t… Read more »

Suddenly Leo
Suddenly Leo

5) Never complain, never explain. Hold your head high. “Leo who? Gemini who? They’re old acquaintances I don’t even keep up with anymore. What a strange story. I wish them all the best.”

tw:leo
tw:leo

😀

akapluto
akapluto

Uranian- I think this probably could have been fine if he hadn’t PRETENDED NOT TO KNOW HER. I mean HELLO. If he hadn’t ignored her there’s a chance Gemini would have felt included (important for the social air signs) and not betrayed. Throw Chiron in Scorpio in there and you have someone who REALLY can’t deal with lurky secrets and being betrayed. I don’t think she should blame you, though. It is obviously that douche who betrayed her. But for all she knows there could have been some evil triste between you and Leo. And now she’s in pain and… Read more »

Leo on the Rise
Leo on the Rise

Just 2 things

Delete
Run

In that order

Charley
Charley

I saw your response to some of the advice up there, I kind of feel like if you ask for advice on this kind of public forum it’s likely you will get responses you don’t particularly like, with limited info people are going to make assumptions and give their honest opinions. I’m guessing as ‘miss uraniun’ you are an Aqua or someone with a lot of emphasis on that sign or planet? Especially with a Leo involved. You guys just see things differently to the rest of us, have your own rules in the love game. I have a lot… Read more »

supercal
supercal

I’m a Scorpio with the same rule Charley but not even because it might not be fine with them, it’s just not fine with me. I want my OWN lover, thanks very much. I hate those smalltown inbred social scenes, although I kinda get them 😉

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Ah, so many potential angles we could look at this from….! This may turn into a small novella; fair warning. With the possibility of Neptune or Chiron in Pisces squaring her Gemini Sun, there is a high degree of likelihood that she’s telling herself what she wants to hear. Saturn is in the mix, though, and if there’s a hard truth she’s been ignoring, eventually it will catch up to her and she’ll reap the consequences that come from trying to live in a bubble. For the moment, however, any attempts to bring clarity to the sitch aren’t likely to… Read more »

Redlipstick Virgo
Redlipstick Virgo

Sorry my vibe is you’ve messed it with your friend – she doesn’t trust you or want to hear from you. Leo is a creep. Stop creating all this drama for yourself. Go nourish your body, mind and spirit with quiet solo Qi time. Be kind to yourself and go talk to someone about that childhood crap that’s bugging you! You are NOT a bad person.

Kell
Kell

Never complain, never explain. One of Henry Ford’s mottos. Send flowers to Gem. Create space with Leo and Gem. Queenly but distant. Don’t get your skirts muddy anymore – you have already trudged through the big. Move on. Leo will continue to triangulate and you could be a different leg of his triangle next time. My Chiron is in Aqua in the 3rd. My Aqua Sun former friend was scathing re some of my close friends. She wanted me to participate in their wounding with low Gem- gossip, shunning etc. I always stuck up for my friends. Then cut the… Read more »

Kell
Kell

Sorry- big swamp. Pre-coffee and enough and pecking on small phone screen.

Skye
Skye

I just reread my first post. It was Pre coffee (still no excuse) but does read like I’ve overdosed on Mars juice and gone all morality judge and too harsh. I probably would have hit Gemini and Leo with same tone of defence council trying to break a witness if they had been on here. Second post probably a little more coherent.
That’s about as close to an apology as I can muster.

z
z

I don’t think your original post was ‘rudely assuming’ at all. You just called it, and it was right on the money. I thought the entire letter to mystic was offhand and rude. Showed almost no insight into her situation or her actions. That she took umbrage at your comment and played angry defensive just confirmed it all.

Lol
Lol

Lol. Don’t go out with on dates with dudes who you know are sleeping with a friend of yours.

(Regardless of their official “status” and regardless of your friendship status with her.)

It’s just “off limits”.

How could someone not forsee potential drama in this?

Sidestep. Prevent. Don’t go there in the first place.

Too late for that!

Lol.

I hate to say it, but it’s you that lacks respect in this situation.

Ouch.

Boundaries come from oneself, they are not to be determined by others or outside circumstances.

(Unless I’m misinterpreting the scenario due to editing?!?!)

Lady L
Lady L

+1

Prince stolas
Prince stolas

I agree with that too. But then I think in another reply they said their avg ages were like younger 20’s…so still working things out at that age.
A person’s brain doesn’t even mature fully until they are 25 y.o.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

4 or ignore (ie. the most basic of option 2).

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

RE- my comment above. I now definitely think option 2. Block. Delete. Ignore.

I don’t remember a single person I fell out with in my mid-20s. I don’t have the energy or brain space to remember those people.

tw:leo
tw:leo

also, to address the synastry here, maybe this situation is a lesson of the sun/chiron connection you and the gem have. she could feel intimidated by you; perhaps what she needs to experience is how someone in a crummy sitch (you, miss u) could walk away the better person (haute sun biz). i like the idea of sending her a gift if possible. let her think about it and do whatever gems do. she could communicate in time when she feels she’s realised something. that would be haute.

tw:leo
tw:leo

yeah, ew. a good leo wouldn’t do something like that. no respect.

pi
pi

Leo sounds like a tool. He must be incredibly hot for you to want to hit it even while he was giving it to your Gemini friend under whatever circumstances. You were basically doing threesomes anyway just separated in space and time. Leo wins! Gemini prob is that she is turning this into a sisterhood issue when she was involved with a douchebag in the first place. Applaud your efforts to connect and clear the air. Maybe gemini has cancer or toro elements, a real gem imo wouldn’t really get so weird about all this. you could keep the contact… Read more »

pi
pi

And if your Sun is on her Chiron yes that could he “illuminating” her deepest pain-points… Ouchy 🙁

pi
pi

Sorry if this over-reacts. I am dirtbag-sensitive. Blame my astro lol

tw:leo
tw:leo

“You were basically doing threesomes anyway just separated in space and time. Leo wins!”

profundity!

pi
pi

I realised that I was going a bit overboard. uranian, it sounds like you acted with as much integrity as you could. Just read a subsequent comment of yours. So you’re in the clear and the gem does seem to be having probs of her own making! If your moral compass is clear (and things can be foggy at uni) then I think you have every right to defend your name, but keeping in mind that you want to remain the better person here! Also maybe I was too harsh on the Leo . Bugger everyone. You’re both young and… Read more »

tw:leo
tw:leo

haha, i wasn’t being sarcastic, if you were questioning that at all! really liked that bit.

i appreciate your statements here, too. you’re so insightful!

pi
pi

no it’s cool, as i was writing that I thought, huh, that’s a new one pi, think you might be onto something lol… and thinking back to own past situations. am a tad sensitive to the sharing of beds / body parts when not all parties are in on the deal 😉

tw:leo
tw:leo

;D

Elemis
Elemis

Just want to say that I had a brief encounter with someone chiron I my sun and my chiron on his DC

It was painful, way out of proportion to what it was and I’m shocked at such a trivial thing rattled me so much, I’m having therapy as it unearthed some real crap.

Seriously going to avoid that synastry point again.

TripleL
TripleL

Miss U, keep in mind that with a transit like this (and during an extremely karmic time in our lives), if you do decide to confront either one of them, you could get more than you bargained for, and for a long time to come. I would plan that move very tactically, with caution and care.

Also, if Leo Dud will throw your former girlfriend/his FWBs under the bus, then …

Just things to think about, my dear.

Prince stolas
Prince stolas

Yes this. If he threw her under the bus. What do you think will happen to you later when the next miss hottie comes around?

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

That Gem girl set you up, IMO. The relationship she’d decided on with Leo had no room for an emotional scene, so she used you to create one. Now that she’s had her little catharsis, you’re no longer needed.

Low Gems are great at setting up little scenes like this but always somehow lack the foresight to see how they’re going to be stuck in all of their own drama even after it blows over.

The good news for you, LW, is that you hardly have to be. F*** these people. They sound boring.

Catcatcat
Catcatcat

This….sounds like high school. Like low Scorpio. (And I’m a Scorp. No fear dissing my own kind when they blow.)

Too little common sense, too much unreliable narration, too much stirring of a pot. I’ll skip the comments, but naturally I had to post my own. Yawn. And good luck!

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Another Scorpio here, & I have to agree on the low Scorp biz underlying this situation… & the high school drama feel– which just means these people are young adults. I hope.

Miss Uranian, I’m sure you’re a lovely person who is still very much learning (aren’t we all). Let this be a life long lesson to you in power dynamics & priorities, for your own self-satisfaction, inner peace, & dignity. So you fuqed up this time, it’s ok: everybody does. Forgive yourself, send blessings to your Gem ex-friend, stuff the Leo, & Move On with greater knowledge.

Sphinx
Sphinx

Cut ’em loose.
Look into how you attracted this situation and how to avoid it in the future.
Be the Boss.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

I hate this drama-relationship-crap… BUT I would suggest sending a gift with an “I’m sorry” note.. you may not feel it but just do it and then be done with it.

How is the gang involved?

I am dealing with something similar but with 50 years old!! Ahhhh… I hate drama-relationship-crap.

Miss Uranian, I think you are smart and know what to do. You will be ok.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

How [old] is this gang?

miss uranian
miss uranian

Currently studying at uni, mid-20s

PlutonicUranian
PlutonicUranian

People still have casual sex? Seriously, I didn’t know. Sounds like Leo has commitment or directness issues (stuffed Mars perhaps), and Gemini has co-dependency or neediness issues (check her Moon placement). I think you got drawn in as a catalyst to a relationship at its own break point. She’ll blame you for his feelings. Don’t send a gift, don’t phone in sick, don’t even add fuel to the fire. What is important is that you don’t feel like an expedient pelvis accidentally zapped between two twitchy transmission poles. If you need to be vocal to protect yourself, “I got used!… Read more »

PlutonicUranian
PlutonicUranian

On that thought, I will say that Leo got angry with the fact that Gem always had flirty angles. He played off his own emotions – I am King, ggoddammitt – with a power play and Gemini’s constant relationship-noodling strategy underestimated the results.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

Mid-20s and still at uni….. okay, that wasn’t that long ago for me. If the two of you aren’t best of buds just don’t ever talk to either of them again. Seriously in six months to a year you won’t even remember they existed!!

Fauness
Fauness

Miss Uranian, There is no easy solution. I would pick one, Leo or Gemini, and go with it. Your attention is scattered due to sticky situation and gossip, so up your alone time to process and recenter yourself. Maybe even take a vacation to really get away. The Gemini has blown you off, but if you have not lost all hope then a gift would be nice. Maybe even go super personal and get her something she loves to show you give a damn. I would try your damnedest to stay out of the gossip mill. Stick up for yourself… Read more »

Aries gal
Aries gal

Miss Uranian you are too good for this sh*t. As if people are not recognising they’re self desctructive behaviour? Low gem behaviour is the WORST. I love that you try to stay above it, in this kind of transit, you just want to tell her where to go!!!!!! & him – Gross no. Low Leo, horrible. “Hey-I’m-really-interested-in-you-as-well-as-your-friend-we-could- have-a-3some!” LUCKY YOU! NOT. Miss Uranian, sometimes, ….. lol and this could be bad advice, sometimes it’s nice to go with the transit, and absolutely let loose on what you want to say and do. You only live once. Get it out –… Read more »

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

Stuff and Mount the Leo. Might look good over the fireplace.

Everyone is so quick to blame the “other woman”, but they let the man go free of punishment??? yeah, no. If you are going to fry the Gemini, you need to fry the Leo too. sorry. Plus just step away from this social circle. yuck. yuck. yuck.

To this day, I avoid sloppy seconds and anything that might reek of some sordid poly-gone-wrong thing.

LexieL
LexieL

Right on! Love the stuff and mount concept 😀

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Stuff & mount the Leo! +1

Peregrine
Peregrine

Stuff and Mount the Leo +2! Hahaha made me laugh out loud! Priceless Prince Stolas.

Skye
Skye

You were friends with her first? So then you decide to go out on several dates with her man friend who you weren’t attracted until you discovered he lusted after you? Were there no other men around? Did you feel you had to prove you were more ‘attractive’ to him than her? Are you looking for someone to tell you that you’re in the right so you don’t feel bad about crossing the friendship code? I’m pretty sure you’ve burnt your bridges. You can try and honest face to face with her to work through it but are you still… Read more »

Skye
Skye

But Leo dude is the real issue here.

TripleL
TripleL

Hmm – good points.

Why did you not speak to your friend first, before you went out on several dates with Mr. Leo? After all, “casual” can span the gamut based on individual interpretation/definition.

And there is that universal unspoken, but inherently understood, friendship code …

uranian
uranian

Hi, Miss Uranian here. I think there’s been some misunderstanding. When he first asked me out on a date, I let the Gemini girl know first. She said that she felt hurt but that SHE was the one who desired to keep it casual. I offered several times to back off if she wanted it, but she made it clear that she had no intention of having a relationship with him.

uranian
uranian

Also, I found both these comments to be way too rudely assuming for my tastes. I knew he “lusted” after me and was actually fairly disgusted by him. Thought the Gemini was too good for him, even. I then got to know him through work, thought he wasn’t all that bad and I was wrong. He then asked me out, I told the Gemini right after to make sure it was cool with her. Then this fiasco resulted. Currently I’ve distanced myself from both the Gemini and the Leo. Status is on hiatus. Honestly the situation frustrates me the most… Read more »

supercal
supercal

hello uranian, I agree we don’t know enough about this situation to make good judgements. I do suspect many of us carry past life Chironic wounds relating to betrayal that flare easily. You’re gunna get a bit of this. Anyways, as a fellow Scorp what flared most for me was this frustration around somebody choosing to ignore you. You could have Plutonic power & control issues that have just been squared by Mars. I think this is your lesson for today. Nobody owes you anything, you can’t make people do anything, even if it involves playing their part in a… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

“You could have Plutonic power & control issues ”

Pluto-Mars-Mercury here! Story of my life, lol

supercal
supercal

lol, my Pluto conjunct Uranus means I am only like this some of the time 😉

TripleL
TripleL

I’m sorry you were offended, Miss Uranian. I was not intentionally being “rudely assuming”, nor am I ever on these blogs … I was going off of your chronology of events in your letter to Mystic. It’s unfortunate you did not stick with your original impression of Mr. Leo (see my earlier comment). Spilt milk. What to do now? People that know all 3 of you, most likely already know what went down. I would not worry about what others think. If you feel in your heart of hearts that you did the best you could/the right thing, you should… Read more »

Skye
Skye

Miss Uranian, Comments and then many questions are based on the limited info provided. She told you she was hurt? Even when people tell u it’s cool, it’s never cool. This is not a judgement of you but a life observation after many years and many mistakes. And really bad mouthing you to others isn’t on either. She told you she didn’t care. Though she obviously did. Especially if she’s doing it at work. Again assuming as not enough info. Your resentment will just turn into a quest to prove you’re right. Again, life lessons learnt. It’s not worth pursuing… Read more »

spookygemini
spookygemini

Gemini with a Scorp moon and a Leo rising so I can see from all sides…;) I have a *really* hard time understanding how you could go on a date with this guy in the first place, but since she gave you permission, it’s sort of on her for her mixed messages. I will say that if you value her as a friend, apologize profusely, send her a little something, and she will probably bring you back into the fold in time. Geminis, no matter what their other signs, are good at being logical about situations once things cool down.… Read more »

LibGem
LibGem

I totally agree with spookygem regarding not understanding why you would go there in the first place.
I have always said when three people are involved someone will be always get hurt.
Clearly Leo got his three – some. Him being number 1, then 2, Gem then 3 uranian.
We live and learn….

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯 Yeah, I think MM is right about this Leo dude. All points are really interesting in MM’s response. I’ll be the first to point out that Gemmy Peeps talk-the-talk, of course Gems want to be casual & whatevs about the stuff they do in their private lives but deep down we all have feelings like everybody else & like MM reiterated you guys bonded before you went out with Leo. If you put yourself in her shoes (soz, Gem habit of thinking), how would you feel about the situation knowing you just spilled to a mate about this casual… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

Hey B’Gem!! ? I only have a couple of things to say.. – Oh the Leo..anyone suggesting a threesome about the friend of their lover, albeit casual (unless you are in that whole poly swing loop) is to be avoided at all costs!! This is going to sting the lover and the lover will flip or pretend (gender not applicable) that its “ok” – usually to mask true feelings. Nice boiling pot of water going there. – Anyone saying its fine to date their previous fling, assume this is total bullshit. Most people lie so they don’t look like are… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

God this phone! cuts out things and hard to type!

all that remains is my question mark ! haha

HOW ARE YOU BABE?

Sending love to a fabulous Gemini xxx

Baristagem
Baristagem

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I Miss You! Great response Ms, intelligent as always! xxx

Ms.
Ms.

aw. that is sweet.
I’m on the road!
with sketchy wifi
check in when I can
big love to you miss xxooxx

TripleL
TripleL

Have to concur with MM & A_FTL … Leo dude appears to be at the heart of this stinker. If you value her at all, you and Miss Gem should work things out, and not let that shit ass ruin your friendship.

I smell a frat — it’s Leo DUD!!

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

Wow. How complicated! I think the Leo is the problem at the root of it all—he goes on a few dates with you then pretends he doesn’t know her?! What a prick. Note that he talked about threesomes with you–without you even being there! I think this bloke sees women as objects that he can manipulate and discard. I’d get the heck away from him, find yourself a new beau and send Ms Gemini a respectful gift with your best wishes. I’ve never had good experiences with Leos—despite being terribly attracted to them. I had one tell me he had… Read more »

Aries_FTL
Aries_FTL

Number 4 definitely! The lion is gloating over the chicks fighting over him… He’s playing this for an ego game. I’d step off the game board and find new playmates.

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