Venus Collaborates With Chiron

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Chiara Bautista

Venus on Chiron is poignant, nuanced and exquisite hell for the sensitive areas of your psyche, throbbing relationship issues you tried to numb with pain-killers such as distractions or denial. So given that you can’t escape a higher awareness around romance, art, beauty, love, attraction, self-esteem, money, old wounds and all attachments – what to do?ย  Run at it?ย  Even if it hurts? Saturn in Sagittarius is a HUGE help here; there is no powerful or rebuilt structure without candor now. Numbness no longer feels comfortable.

Thoughts?

 

 

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wow I am searching through this in archives on the 6/11/17
1) seriously Dr Chiron was on my natal Saturn then past its own return whilst retro and back again in Jan 25 2018 (this is gonna be a big fat great year for me)
2) this original post was just before I discovered MM website. Taurus work mate said, “when I read the paper, I always read Mystic Medusa, you should look her up”
3) I have a serious Chiara Bautista thang!
This is a gem in the treasure trove
XxXx

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

Quite literal throbbing. I have had the worst possible migraines during this transit. I’m officially worried about mars, I had hoped his tour through Pisceswould cool my head but all this cChiron action on mercury has little my brain on fire. I had a dream that my post-this-life version of me came to me, held my head and blew cool air into my third eye. They told me not to pour a foundation but to look for beauty and be in it. Looking. Looking.

Lady L
Lady L

Natally, Venus conjuncts Chiron in 7th h Aries, right ON my South Node. Natal Venus trines both my Neptune and Moon in Sagg 3rd h, as well as Mars 6th h. Natal Chiron trines Moon. Romantic relationships are my undoing. It’s as if I feel the demise of the relationship even before it’s begun. So now I avoid them. Pisces escapism rules the day ๐Ÿ™‚ Transit-wise, current Venus-Chiron is ON my Mercury in Pisces 6th h, and very close to my Sun in same house. Am pretty much just trying to stay sane in this weird astro. Nary a planet/node… Read more »

LEF
LEF

Merc rx has just been exhausting this time around. Terrible timing for the introduction of a super-fly Saggo to my world. Little outings here and there, on top of his communication that he’s “going through some sensitive stuff right now” (hello, Saturn!) and asked that I not take it personally. …. Low and behold, he’s in my kitchen this weekend, talking about his terrible past relationship habits and how there’s now a need for him to approach dating differently. THEN, wants me to divulge my past relationship habits. GULP …. Vulnerability is not my thing and I wonder if Chiron… Read more »

Z
Z

That fox in the image is me.

Charles
Charles

I’m having a little Chiron conjunct Mars issue. I was just at the orthopedic clinic to have them look at the bone spur on my heel. Apparently I have “Haglund’s Deformity.” Except it’s not really a deformity, it’s perfect. I just have a perfectly ENORMOUS heel bone, it is the perfect shape and size for an adult male who is ten feet tall. Well what do you expect from a Taurus? Oh they can fix that right up with major surgery to reduce the size of my heel bone, and then reattach my achilles tendon. Are you kidding me, you… Read more »

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

There is a circle of hell now reserved for people who buy anyone over 70 technology and don’t install/explain it. (I’m looking at you siblings and your jawbone 24s) Those of us who do distance IT for parents get out of purgatory free.

spookygemini
spookygemini

My Venus & Chiron are both in Taurus in my Taurus-ruled midheaven, so the ache is real. When I was 11, I became addicted to the poetic fragments of Sappho and I vividly remember one of her poems: “I famish and I pine.”

Even at 11, I was famishing and pining.

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

Chiron at 5deg Aries in my 7th….opp Merc Jupes and Uranus in Lubs 1 H and squares Mars in Mr Mars in Sag 4 H – oi vey

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

I’ll just stop now…. Doing my head in!

Joshua
Joshua

I have an exact conjunction of the two on 4 Taurus in the 11th, making a broad, really broad conjunction with mercury retrograde on 24 Aries and a somewhat tighter square to Mars on 28 cancer. This conjunction is the worse ever. Your question: what do you do, run? is exactly what I would like to do! Run from people, run from pain, run from Earth, run from life itself.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

This year the astro really pings of my sensitive spots. Like, the September eclipse is on my Sun. And this Chiron-Venus thing is sitting on my Jupiter in 6th house Pisces, which my 12th house Venus and Sun point at in a yod. I feel disillusioned about relationships but I have been able to see another layer of how I’ve been contributing to the problem. Like, the other day I wrote to no one, everyone, my self: “I am sorry for ever expecting you to be other than you are.” I realized the people I love that have hurt me… Read more »

LibertaingVenus
LibertaingVenus

All I can say about this transit is HOLY CRAP – my dreams are providing next-level synchronicity right now. It is indeed as if I’m “journeying” – quite shamanic!

Between this and Mercury stationing on my nodal axis, it’s safe to say I’m definitely “getting the message”. Loving it!

Ms.
Ms.

Perfecto Mystic

Its been an intense venus purge the last few months and sidelining the MC/IC zap. I am taking my 9th house planet transits to India for a couple of months. Going to do some serious sag in saturn heart moon purging and re aligning. Love to all the creatures on here doing your thing. xx

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Good to see you again, Ms! Ah your Saturn in Sagg pilgrimage to India sounds so cosmic & aligned… x

Veronica
Veronica

Yes, cosmic, swoon….
Say hello to India for me (I will get there someday)

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Natal Chiron in Aries, 1st house. Guru extraordinaire Jupiter conjunct my Pisces AC. Sagg MC + North Node-Neptune– sometimes a bit of numbing is therapeutic, like pain management post op. 8th house Scorpio sun/stellium: healing is happening all the time, & often beneath the surface. That burning means it’s working. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Sphinx
Sphinx

๐Ÿ˜ฏ Chiron in Aries seems appropriate burns unit symbol… Mine’s in Aries, 10th. The people I like & respect often find what I do incomprehensible.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Incomprehensible how? Like, how can you stand to do it? Or, does that really work? I get both, but the former most often.

sphinx
sphinx

For all my interests, I am not a delicate woo-woo flower and I really enjoy grounded, practical people. They enjoy me until they try to understand what I do. Some just avoid that topic entirely or I get, “I don’t believe in that stuff”, but the few I count as good friends tend to just accept that they I am onto something they don’t know about. I find a surprising amount of people are really confident that the way they see the world is the only way. Like it’s a choice you make in an Ikea catalogue.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

— and they had a coupon for said item, so that’s the one they went with lol! I so hear this, Sphinx.

sphinx
sphinx

How do you explain what you do to someone really interested? (If that is not too private to share here!)

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

I guess it depends on who’s asking & what kind of mood I’m in at the time– probably my mood more than anything LOL. But in general, I guess I don’t really explain it. If someone’s genuinely interested they can shut their yapper, watch & learn ๐Ÿ˜›

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

— not you, gorgeous! (After reading that, was concerned about its tone– see: less is more! Haha xx)

Veronica
Veronica

Yes, I explain stuff to young people (who aren’t always interested) for a living. Buggered if I’ll do it in my spare time ๐Ÿ™‚

Anonymous
Anonymous

Scorpio can you be my life coach please? Pi x

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Scorpio already is! Like an electric car, it’s so quiet that you can’t even tell it’s on until you hit the gas ๐Ÿ˜‰

pi
pi

lol! xx well, thank you in advance… *plugs scorp into mains to ensure charge stays high*

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Lol yes! xx

socialgraffiti
socialgraffiti

Ah, I wish I saw this earlier. Had a pretty painful conversation with a guy I’ve been stuck in limbo with just an hour or so ago. Met on New Years Eve, had a really wonderful date and met again… But there was such a big leap from that date (we had never talked before since then) to the daily grind. We have totally different friend circles, so in public I have taken my Venus In Cappy to heart and remained pretty aloof. I wish I had been more open though… It was just so sudden and kind of unanticipated,… Read more »

davidl
davidl

Shit I just realised I may have opened up some old wounds for Chiron… Sorrrry

Sphinx
Sphinx

Ouch, you hit him in his Achille’s Fetlock..

davidl
davidl

Let’s not talk about Chiron. Maybe he’ll go away.
It’s interesting though that for a small comet like object orbiting a long way away it has somehow become as influential to astrologers as the main planets. Why ?
And as it was discovered in the 1970s who decided it’s influence ?
Why Chiron out of the many other objects that get no publicity at all ?

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

That has been my attitude toward asteroids in general … why the fuss? Chiron does seem to bring some influence to bear on the chart though. Just from my casual observations.

Sphinx
Sphinx

He has a really cool ellipse..

Catzai
Catzai

Oh is that what “This” is. Most unpleasant.
And I have tried all of the aforementioned including ACTUAL painkillers…..and buying sh*t I don’t need…..and eating crap etc…. all to no avail.
So I decided to hunker down and just feel it today. There has been heaps of boo-hooin’, then feeling super pissed off (and no it’s not even PMT)
Gross.

BTW: Angrily loading the dishwasher sounds a bit like a Thelonious Monk album to me, but whatever.

Catzai
Catzai

I have my Natal Chiron at 18deg Pisces, which looks like where Chiron is pretty much hangin/transiting.
I’m not at all good with the chart side of things, so does that explain why I feel so “I want off this fuqin ride” right now?

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Snap! Chiron at 18 Pisces! Happy Chiron return to both of us Catzai! Mine is 11th house, yours?

Catzai
Catzai

Mine is in da 12th House.
xo

If
If

I feel ya honey. Gen X right? Of the Uranus and Pluto in Virgo generation if you are nearing a Chiron return? It gets better once you’ve had your Chiron return. Trust me. No wonder you feel crappy – Mars has only just passed your Chiron, after all, and is no doubt opposing (or has been) either your Uranus or Pluto too. I wanted off the whole goddam planet in the lead up to my Chiron return. OK, so my natal Chiron is in quite the sensitive spot – on IC at 5 degs Pisces, tightly conjunct my Jupiter and… Read more »

Catzai
Catzai

Thank-you so much for this. Sounds corny but you have no idea just how much it means to me to hear your kind words and an explanation. The last few days random “upsets” have like BEYOND upset me, so much so I’ve been worried about myself and my sanity. Total strangers have been mean and aggressive, and one even abused me yesterday because, and I quote, “I just don’t like your face”! As an Aspergers who doesn’t like to get out and mingle much as it is anyway….. – well you can imagine how this has been very damaging. So… Read more »

If
If

Fuq ’em, honey. People are uber-strange at the mo. Retro Mercury in Aqua is not all rational and detached in my view; it can make some people plain old cruel and sociopathic.

So Mercury moves forward soon, and then it will be Mars in Aries (your 1st house?) season soon, boosting your confidence. Comments from random dickheads will be as irrelevant as gnats on the windshield of a V8, non?!

Catzai
Catzai

Oui! Just spent the last couple hours googling the sh*t outta Chiron. WTF?! Till 2018!!! And with Chiron pretty much right up my Natal (he didn’t even bother to buy me dinner first, how rude!) Bummer – well no wonder I felt like neckin’ myself this weekend…. And yep, I’m Aries rising. Must regroup and be ready to come out swinging for that. Even though at the moment that sounds utterly exhausting-er-er. LOL. Time for a pink salt bath, and to light and enjoy that new Lotus Flower soy candle I depressed-spent on yesterday. Thanks If, you have been a… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Yay for Gen Xers

Catzai
Catzai

Yeah baby!
And “squee”!, I’m turning 50 this year.
Woo-woo hooh!
๐Ÿ˜‰

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

A Thelonious Monk album lol! Good that you still have your sense of humor ๐Ÿ˜‰ Healing.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

(Also, fuq my carbon footprint — i wish i had a dishwasher :/ )

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

Shower washer for me. I never want to scrub mine EVER again!!!

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Dishpan hands, broken nails, sore back– meanwhile my trifling stepsisters get to go to all the fun parties. So he brings me a glass slipper but wtf I can’t do housework in that shit! I told him to come back when he has something i can use. Pfft

Pi
Pi

this might sound terribly naff and a sloth like me should probably never offer advice on cleaning, but i have learnt that the best cleaning for shower-type spaces is a combination of Gumption paste, a kitchen scourer, and a microfibre cloth. spray slightly dilute chlorine bleach on any potentially mouldy grout. microfibre cloth is good for when you’re just standing there thinking and you can use your foot to clean the base of the tub/tiles. (I told you i was lazy) in my ideal house the shower is outdoors and/or is in the middle of a space with no screen.… Read more »

Pi
Pi

ps. fuq that bicarb and vinegar shii. i’m talking labour-saving here.

Pi
Pi

actually in my ideal house, i live next to a waterfall . waterfall = shower <3

Pi
Pi

saggi 6th house much lol

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

Never complain, never explain, I know. But maybe I was in some kind of rush to check off the intense experience spiritual bucket list when I signed up for this chart. I have mercury at 16 Pisces, dc at 18. I with Saturn conjunct my Mc at 16 gemini, and Neptunelillithjunoceres on my ic. I was a confident pre-human. “hey can we get a few more things checked off during that midlife crisis? That’d be grand.” If anyone would like to book me in advance, I will apparently be brilliant at something by 2017, if I survive. (oh and I… Read more »

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Lol! I often think this too: I must have been pretty optimistic or impatient or stuck on efficiency when i charted this course… So here we are– doing it! ๐Ÿ™‚ Power ups!! Xx

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

I’d like to short films about that room. I picture Arianrhod like a high school guidance Counselor advising me to apply to a safety school. “maybe a few less personal planets in Aries darlin?”
After I left the room she added “NO LEO” and chuckled.

Lucy
Lucy

This is beautiful.

sphinx
sphinx

Venus-Chiron on my natal Jupiter in the 9th.

Been completely plugged in to the netz. Or channelling info from the ether.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Wow! Next level guru vibes!!

sphinx
sphinx

At the moment I am in that place where it’s like, switch on the ‘pooter and have a surf, or meditate, clean up & have a surf.. I know meditating is harder and feels better, but it’s feeling same-same in terms of weighting for importance. Like, that stuff is so normal now. Uh-oh, now I see what you mean.. !

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Have you ever seen that 80s movie Short Circuit? “Need input!” Your hard drive is hungry for more more more ๐Ÿ˜€ Jupiter!

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

My Chiron keeps my Mercury and my Sun company in the 12th House ruled by Taurus. Venus and Mars in Taurus are next door in the 11th house. Me personally, I am phoenixing like crazy. Transforming my lazy tendencies into routines that foster my creative growth. I admit, the last week was a little qi draining as I just had 4.5 months ‘off’ from my craft. But I know initial sore muscles turn into strong ones. I’ve become my own personal drill sergeant – lovingly ‘kicking my butt’ to keep my creative rituals and routines in effect so I can… Read more »

Pi
Pi

I think I get the ‘creative love’ feeling. It’s so yummy. I had such strong feelings for one of my art teachers last year (himself also an artist). Fortunately had managed to process my tendencies to lose myself in fantasy by then so I could take the high road – he very attached elsewhere. But to be able to transmute that into a creative collaboration? Would be divine. I mean, would never happen, circumstances etc, but thats the kind of energy I would love to have operating in any team effort: yummy mutual understanding and appreciation.

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

Art and lovemaking are the same energies to me – both require all involved to be present, fearless and open.

I work in a collaborative environment and I cannot wait for the collaborations. The gut never lies, magic will be created and all will be fulfilled.

Being an artist rocks – love is everywhere! ๐Ÿ™‚

Pi
Pi

agree ๐Ÿ™‚
hope your new role works out magically!

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

It’s all beautiful thus far. And back ‘atcha:)

Toroqueen
Toroqueen

Working on the release … Of my divorce and all past hurt that is impairing my ability to move forward w love. Maybe my dreams are helping? Have had this crazy tension -ongoing vibe that’s lasted for years with a colleague of mine. Can’t tell if he has interest or ever has but my dreams last night: he has a beard in real life but made an appearance in my dream fully shaved. Anyone wanna take a stab at what this means? Maybe I’m done w stupid crushes!???

davidl
davidl

All I can think of is that in a variety of cultures beards are considered a sign of wisdom. Some even say they are like antennae to higher frequencies. Hence to be beardless is to have a childlike view of the world. . You think you know this guy but maybe your starting to see another side to him. Or he’s trying to show you another side. An aside. Personally the whole hipster beard thing cracks me up. I went to visit a new customer the other day, the staff are all around 25-30 year old guys. Yep all 5… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Haven’t they heard? Beards are so out! They now denote lazy tryhards. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

The twisting, the twirling..

๐Ÿ˜†

toroqueen
toroqueen

thx davidl. I am with you on the WTF is up hipster beard thing. my crush is almost 50 tho, and known him for ages with da beard. ๐Ÿ™‚

DP
DP

Haha! “The twisting the twirling, the stroking”… and don’t forget the scratching. Ick.

Pi
Pi

I have a sense that chiron is not overly intellectualise-able , as tempting as it is for mercury types or those who like to rationalise things. i have venus conj chiron too tho ~5 degrees, not sure how orbs play in to this but it sure feels like it counts. Though there is that certain gut-level sense of *chiron* when something contacts it (or it contacts something) directly, it’s become quite distinct for me over the years. Like an old injury that flares up. you can’t run on a damaged ligament, you just have to rest and work with/around it… Read more »

Pi
Pi

also, breathing. Because chiron tends to bring (what feels like) the hurt, not diving for the first comfort-thing that we can see means stop, become more mindful and aware, and breathe! presence! what are you actually feeling Right Now. stop, think, feel, breathe, move, reflect, be gentle, love thyself, repeat.

Pi
Pi

(more words: although I have venus exact on south node, so if something is transiting venus /SN, it is soon on Chiron too so maybe I am conflating the things in my experience)

Fauness
Fauness

I like your interpretation, Pi. Self care is so important and being gentle with your trigger points. For years I was reading my chiron wrong. He’s right on my descendant, so on the charts I had, he looked like he was in my 6th. Then a new chart I had showed that he was really in the 7th. It made so much sense and freaked me out a little. So I think I get him pretty well but the ways he influences my life are still being learned. The day of the full moon I was on the receiving end… Read more »

Pi
Pi

hey, sorry to hear some crap flew your way at work… no one needs that. :\ it does take some recovery time if one’s shields were not up…

it seems that planets close enough to chart angles are handy to read as though they are conjunct, as they are such sensitive / personal points it seems.

self-care-promoting friends are the BEST. the absolute best. my people who are like that have helped me to become a better person, no joke. glad you have some in your life too xx

Fauness
Fauness

Thx, Pi. Chiron is on your SN? Sounds challenging but with rewards, of course. I feel like mine is pretty intense as well. The wounds go farther than just me. The Astro in late Nov/early Dec opened my eyes to family dynamics I never knew existed but def shaped my own existence, especially with relationships.

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

I literally hurt my wrist this week. I should have come home and done my work but I took the time to rest and recuperate.

I have been going in my creative residence space an hour early to do breathing and stretching. Opening the vessel up, centering and being present is where’s it at as a lifestyle I believe ๐Ÿ™‚

Pi
Pi

whatta lifestyle. we all need more of that, less of the other stuff…

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Chiron is always trauma stored in the body …somewhere. Gotta go more with body awareness than intellectual processes when dealing with Chiron wounds …

Pi
Pi

Hmm, interesting. the closest aspect Chiron makes in my chart is square cap moon (1 deg). It’s in my 10th house Aries. I wonder if relates to how I feel about exposure , public image, making myself ‘known’.

sphinx
sphinx

Apparently we suffered rejection in childhood and are over compensating by having brilliant careers… hee hee!

Pi
Pi

hah. well, still working on that one… xx

cal
cal

yes, well, the first part might be right…. (Chiron in Aries 10th here too) ๐Ÿ˜‰ xx

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

OK seeing as I’ve done little this weekend except hang out here in between manic bouts of internal and external housekeeping, I may as well add my tuppence worth. Yep. So feeling this. The other night was a great example of Saturn-in-Sagg, can’t ignore the truth any longer. Saturn is still in my 4th and it’s true that focusing on how my home works both practically and as a sanctuary seems to be helping enormously with clarity and in quelling my anxiety. I totally revamped my bedroom, moved all the furniture so I will now sleep with my head to… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Unlocking sounds very symbolic and positive!

Note to self: mop floors and renew salt barrier at front door.

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

Sounds fabulous. I’ve been decluttering like crazy since July and I’m pretty much done. All I have to do is continue keeping everything clean. Getting rid of all that I didn’t need shifted paradigms. Rooms that were ugly became beautified. It’s funny, when I read Taurus scopes and the Tarot they say ‘sensual sanctuary’. ‘By connecting with your sensuality you invite all you love in’. Even if it takes it’s sweet time, YOU’RE blissed out and productive, you know? It took me a few years to get rid of some of the routines and habits I inherited from my ex.… Read more »

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Absolutely, I sold some stuff and donated the rest. I know what you mean about habits from the ex. I am having Chiron return on and off at the mo, my Chiron in Pisces (8th house). My Chiron ‘healings’ are like painful eruptions from deep down, no language at all at the time, until I can articulate them some time after the fact and transform them into something useful for my present life. My ongoing 4th-house activity (Saturn thru Scorp and early Sagg) has very much been about being absolutely true to myself and letting go of who I was… Read more »

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

This all sounds too fabulous. Shine on, fly on <3

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

A word count division Lol love that! ๐Ÿ™‚

I’ll never forget the day my ex said to me, totally exasperated, “i don’t even know who you are anymore!” It was the most fab affirmation to me: eureka I’m on the right path!

Nothing woo woo about working with the real energy all around you. Fenging awesome, Chrysalis! Keep going x

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

This is HUUUUGE. ๐Ÿ˜€ Reality is actually constructed of metaphors but on the event level we don’t see it. I conceptually understand this but only functionally get it in glimpses. Excited for you.*raises a glass to new beginnings*

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Yeah it feels pretty amazing. I can thank Chiron/Psyche/Eros/Venus currently zapping my 8th house Chiron.
(and happy belated greetings for your recent solar return Rache x)

Anonymous
Anonymous

i think you’re amazing. xxx pi

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

The best woo woo is practical woo woo ๐Ÿ™‚

akapluto
akapluto

I was definitely feeling it today. I hate it. I have Venus/Uranus opposite Chiron natally, with Chiron in the 7th to boot! Nothing hurts me more than separatiom and rejection. And I’m in the process of accepting an awful rejection right now. I am in a position where I can’t get away from the person who rejected me, and he can see that I’m acting erratically and told me I should just talk to him instead of seething. But how do you explain to someone that involvement with them is touching upon your deepest issues? Woe is me. At least… Read more »

Fauness
Fauness

So sorry to hear. Glad you have supportive friends to help you through. Yeesh, the timing of these things.

I have Chiron in the 7th as well. I avoid confrontation like a champ. He opposes my uranus scorp ascendant and squares my leo sun near MC. Oh, and also exact conjunction with Sedna. I laughed when I discovered that one… “Self exile from fear of being hurt”. Indeed.

Healing vibes to you.

akapluto
akapluto

Yeah I never exiled myself…maybe that’s the problem. I feel like I was born to be heartbroken.

If there is indeed some way above Chiron I would love to know. They say become a healer but, um, have you ever been in a relationship where you were healing someone or they, you? It’s no bueno.

We’ll have to see. I have been searching around for someone with Chiron 7th house who was actually able to have a successful relationship…

Fauness
Fauness

it’s a tough placement, indeed. I also have pluto in the 11th.

david5379
david5379

I have venus exact chiron natally so I know this feel. Been feeling it more lately for sure. I still can’t fully grasp venus chiron intellectually, or chiron generally, the perma wound, what do you do with that right? I mean I know the theme and myth its just doesn’t go down as easy as literally any other planetary theme, but I guess that’s just chiron as well.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Well, I always liked what Kim Falconer said…Chiron trains Hero’s… Do we forget about the wound, no, but we can evolve and transcend from it. I feel it is deeply related to karma (stuck patterns of energy) and what we need to heal..simply let go of. Some of it is from the Soul experience, some of it is DNA/familial. Who in the family is the bravest to be the Hero? Who in the family will say “no, this is not acceptable”..this pain, this addiction…this turning a blind eye… And you won’t know you came in to be a Hero…you will… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Wow this really makes me think about my purpose — sometimes feel like a whistle blower exposing stuff no one else will admit or look at. My Chiron is in Pisces 11th house — I think a certain qi vamp friend needs to be spring cleaned with love.

Birdstargirl
Birdstargirl

Wow. This distilled so much info into crystal. Thanks sweetpea

pi
pi

That’s pretty amazing sp, thank you pi xxx

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Thanks for that Sweetpea … I resonated with pretty much everything you said there. I was the one that took on the task of healing the family wounds. Particularly on my father’s side. On my mother’s side, well the wounds are spectacular but subterranean. Everyone is very shut down and has been numb to it for years. Hard to detect. Working on these more subtle patterns now. The dad one’s were so out there cray cray that it was easy to spot. I had early spiritual guidance that I rejected and defied too. Did the same loop – avoid avoid,… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Yes, I would say so…Interesting about your MC!

And ditto about the Virgo influence. I have Pluto in Virgo on the IC.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Yes, Sweetpea, yes ๐Ÿ˜€ Green berets– love that! I think people tend to get stuck on the “wounded” bit & then don’t hear HEALER. Chiron is the benevolent, effective guru who gets your struggle & has the answers because he’s Been There, Done That. Chiron is the authentic, real deal, ultimate sensei ๐Ÿ˜‰ Work it, Sweetpea! Work it, everyone x

cal
cal

yeah, wow – thank you Sweetpea. This describes my Chiron Rising friend exactly – she has Chiron on the AC exact to the minute. Who will be the one? It is her.

skarab
skarab

Sweatpea, this was amazing – it talked directly to my very core…..and it made me soar……. What a beautiful and healing effect to have read those words after just having come out of the wringer.
Thank you, you sweet thing you, sending you much Love. xxx

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Aw, hey guys you’re very welcome. Actually I’d had some wine and I seem to just channel stuff..

I shouldn’t be having wine in the first place. Still working on it. That is a part of my Hero journey as well….x

david5379
david5379

thanks sweetpea that was great.
That really makes sense, I don’t think I have had a guide of any sort, but I have been on a confusing trajectory. I have leo chiron in the 12th and it exact trines venus in the 8th, grand trine if you count the south node. It manifests through my social life which is also pretty difficult generally.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

I have Barbara Hand Clow’s book on Chiron. I haven’t always resonated with some of her other stuff but you might want to take a look at it. She gives different delineations. Your Chiron is ruled by the Sun so I would look at where your Sun is and aspects to it. The trine to Venus could a clue as to your gifts as a healer. For example I have Chiron in Aquarius, 9th, exact trine to Mars in Gemini/Asc. I do hands on, bodywork, healing as one avenue. Then with Uranus in 3rd, aspected to the Sun ruled by… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Yeah, will talk to Pop but his Aqua wife is up in Montana from Yuma, AZ until tomorrow. She is a snow bird…he no longer is. Will call and see how he is after she leaves…give them a space, you know?

I remember when Mother died. I could have easily taken a foul moment out on her. So grateful I didn’t. She was dead the next day.

What we think is so important ends up not being so much…x

Trans Chiron is conjunct my Lucifer at 15 degrees Pisces…that was the ex Pisces Sun degree.

Think we’re done now ๐Ÿ˜‰

cal
cal

I feel it – it’s the “Numbness no longer feels comfortable” bit. I have survived largely through avoidance. Can’t do that anymore. Of course, speaking out could cost me my extended family, one side, but meh. Venus on Chiron helps, remember to do it through or with love. Love thyself, heal thyself, etc. Good luck all!

curiouser and curiouser crab
curiouser and curiouser crab

This is why I love you so much. I was so busy with my Pluto opposing and Uranus squaring my Venus over the last while, I forgot about Chiron. And now I read this and it is yes, yes, yes. This morning was big release rituals, forgiveness and letting go. Just one thing still to do, throwing into the ocean a relic that needs to go. That will be in a little while. It will join the turquoise that had to go….. And inviting in an open heart, joy and buckets of creativity. Thank you for this perfect post. X

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

You sound at peace… this stuff is hard, so kudos to you

Anonymous
Anonymous

Thank you! It’s been a huge long journey and more to come no doubt. But yes, a peace that’s been a long time coming and might ebb and flow a bit but it’s progress for now. This little combo is in my 7th! Life hey! Endlessly fascinating. Best wishes with your journey Chrysalis and thank you for your kind words. X

curiouserandcuriousercrab
curiouserandcuriousercrab

That was me,CCC.

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