Greece Is The Word

Filed in LEO

The head of radical leftist Syriza party Tsipras speaks to supporters after winning the elections in Athens

Alexis Tsipras is the new (radical left) Prime Minister of Greece – he’s Leo, so left he named one of his kids after Che Guevara and has “change Europe” as his mantra – not just Greece.  He’s also against the austerity (cuts to government services etc) laid out as a condition by the German bankers/I.M.F etc as a condition of the bail-outs/loans to his country. Without wishing to bog down in an intense political discussion, this astrologically super relevant.

The last time Greece edged towards a not-so-graceful exit from the Euro-Zone/their massive debt obligations, it was May 2012 – the first blast of the Zap Zone that is Uranus Square Pluto.

NOW it is leading up to the final square off between these two might Change Gods. Pluto in Capricorn has ALWAYS been about the economy and exposing fault lines of delusional debt, trillion dollar quantitative easing programs (called money printing in the pre-digital analogue days) the Global Financial Fuqery and so on.

Uranus in Aries squaring Pluto just amped it. Remember: the Lehmann brothers filed for bankruptcy basically as Pluto entered Capricorn.   Michael Lewis is absolutely brilliant on the culture and beliefs behind all this, managing to be turn even the most dry of subjects into something wry and wit infused.

SO election of the telegenic, idealist and fervent Mr Tsipras is a Zap Zone event. It even occurred with the Moon on Uranus square Pluto.   He is Leo and has his Mars in either Leo or Virgo, depending on what time of the day he was born – if his Mars is in Leo, then he has absolutely no Earth energy of note.  But he’s got Chiron opposite, a Mercury, Saturn and Venus conjunction in Kataka, Neptune trine his Sun, Pluto sextile it and Lilith opposing.  Our Mr Leo is going to be an interesting character in the interesting times we’re about to live through.

Thoughts?

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Also just to remind, in the interest of keeping this space respectful for everyone, and creating a safe community, using abusive language or intending abuse to to each other will lead to the inevitable . . . banning.

Let’s create a Harm Free Zone here. 🙂

Thanks, everyone!

Ann
Ann

I just don’t understand the tone of this article. Telegenic, idealist, and fervent? You sound awfully gleeful that a far-left radical was elected Prime Minister, Mystic. Would you write the same kind of article had a far-right radical been elected? I don’t know how it is in Australia, but in Greece, radicals of all persuasions are basically birds of a feather…although Tsipras shamelessly backtracked on his extremism to worm his way closer to the center to gain more voters (yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he has no earth in his chart). He just put a rightwing self-described… Read more »

99 Luft Balloons
99 Luft Balloons

Greed is the nub.

skarab
skarab

always

Charles
Charles

Hey check this out, this was in my news feed this morning:

The Solar System may have two undiscovered planets
We haven’t seen them, but may have detected their gravitational influence.

http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/01/the-solar-system-may-have-two-undiscovered-planets/

It talks about a serious (and complex) paper from the Royal Astronomical Society, about the possible detection of two “super-Earths,” at extremely distant orbits. They call them “Extreme Trans Neptunian Objects” and are likely to be 5x the size of Earth.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Wow! Super earths!! I wonder if they have any life on them?

sphinx
sphinx

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/01/26/has-brussels-reached-a-vespasian-moment/

Nice short article with some history. How my Mercury in Cancer digs it.

skarab
skarab

oooh, my cancer sun digs this too! Thanx

Anonymous
Anonymous

Thank you Mystic for this post. I believe that this is a first major strike against a rapacious world order which has been devastating for a great majority of people on this planet. If you’ve been living in Europe, it doesn’t come as a real surprise that Tsipras’ s party won this election. The draconian austerity measures imposed on Greece by the Troika and Germans to bail out the banks, have more than ruined the country – and has not stopped even more money being stolen by its corrupt governing elite. It is beyond logic, that to *save* a country,… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Interesting thoughts. I think it’s important to note that Greece’s integration into the EU was always fractious due to the military coup and subsequent military dictatorship of the 60s & 70s. The people of Greece have never really recovered from those traumatic years …

Anonymous
Anonymous

That’s true about Greece. It’s people haven’t really had time to adjust to the responsibility that it takes to govern themselves in a democratic way. It takes more than just a couple of generations to regain a more solid social and political base. And it’s true that it’s leaders cooked the books so that it would be let in to the EU. But it beggars belief that the EU chiefs and financial bureaucrats had no idea about that – yet they fully exploited this AND German banks in particular, lent (some say peddled) them even more money – so that… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Ironic isn’t it, wasnt democracy founded in Ancient Greece?

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Indeed. But that was ancient Athens which was quite a different cultural landscape. Since then there have been numerous occupations, some very brutal (the Turks) as well as terrible beaurucratic mismanagement. Greece is a country whose people are suffering from collective PTSD.

ArienScorp
ArienScorp

Change is messy, but for people to stand up and say they won’t be raped anymore is admirable. It is the step in the right direction.

VenusRising
VenusRising

http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/01/26/breathtaking-hypocrisy-germany-owes-greece-11-billion-euros-in-unpaid-loans-prides-purge/ “In 1943, Germany forced the Bank of Greece to lend it two loans worth 11 billion euros in today’s money. And Germany has still not paid back the debt,” writes Tom Pride. “Which – considering the Germans have been bleating on and on and bloody on about how the Greeks should honour their present debts – is a case of breathtaking hypocrisy writ large, I’d say.” He’s got a very good point – look at this report (from the Torygraph of German sabre-rattling against the new Greek government, which is determined to reverse austerity measures imposed on the country… Read more »

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

What to make of the possible no earth to speak of biz? Fluid? Slippery? Ungrounded? His own force of nature? Ice cubes in a glass? A pot of water on the stove?

On some levels this reminds me of Obama’s win… Thanks again, Mercury rx & Uranus on the south node– the gift that keeps on giving!

Also, damn this song in my head. Damn it all to hell.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

(Obama’s 2008 win, that is.)

VenusRising
VenusRising

His son’s names are Phoebus (one of the names of Apollo, the sun god) and Orpheus, who brought his beloved back from the dead.

Ernesto, yes, a nice middle name.

Gemricorn
Gemricorn

Just read Boomerang by Michael Lewis. Thanks for the heads up mystic…. EVERYONE should read it…. and then maybe take your money out of the bank and buy gold.

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯 Interestingly his party was formed around May 2012, which coincided with the first blast of the ZZ. Also this was around the time I began to watch the party closely & the dynamics of Greece politics. Lots of speculations & analysis surrounding the election win & coincides with an article I read about a month which discussed the huge amounts of money the Greece bureaucracy has sucked up over the last few years, despite the huge crisis. Greece have mismanage huge amounts of money which the Greek people have suffered for. I think Alexis has given people the message… Read more »

VenusRising
VenusRising

Not really:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/21/greece-profit-german-history-1953-debt-relief

“The overwhelming truth about the Greek debt crisis is that it’s a massive distraction. Greece accounts for a mere 2% of the eurozone economy and the EU population. This doesn’t mean that Greece should be pushed around, still less pushed out of the eurozone. It means the very opposite: the crisis should be resolved, and largely on Greece’s terms.”

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯

Interesting but I think this is a different argument

Anonymous
Anonymous

Is it? : )

And do Greeks really want to leave the Euro?

“You can see the proof in an MRI scan of someone presented with political opinions that conflict with her own. The brain scans of a person shown statements that oppose her political stance show that the highest areas of the cortex, the portions responsible for providing rational thought, get less blood until another statement is presented that confirms her beliefs. Your brain literally begins to shut down when you feel your ideology is threatened.”

http://www.brainpickings.org/2014/02/20/the-benjamin-franklin-effect-mcraney/

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯

Not quite sure what you’re saying here. What does this have to do with Alexis? Perhaps if you put things into your own words…

Pi
Pi

b gem you’re a scholar in this subject area if i remember (?) .. i think your comment up there has made the most sense to me so far here.

gia-multi sagg
gia-multi sagg

Tsipras seems to be a down to earth guy so far. He even gave an oath as he was appointed as prime minister to his “honour” and not the religious one that this country’s conservatism dictates for politicians.
His election shows how desperate, we greeks are to have some kind of hope towards our lenders.
Terror is not a good environment to live in.

SourPatch
SourPatch

this is the one thing I like about the zap zone and I only wish more nations would follow suit cuz srsly…..fuck capital/neoliberalism.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Well in defense of capitalism, it has raised the standard of living for all countries that practice it in a relatively short space of time. It has delivered health care, education and social welfare on a scale never seen before in other economic paradigms – even with all the rhetoric of right wing economists harping on about scaling back taxes and social services all the time.

At the end of the day the poorest of the poor in Australia are still probably considered quite well off compared to the poverty stricken peoples of Africa, South America and many Asian nations.

david5379
david5379

I would say that was thanks to democracy teaming up with capitalism, weather it is a partnership anymore is the thing of it I would say, but I will say I would rather live in a free market wonderland then under fascism or communism,
best defense of capitalism I have heard, the people that would normally wage wars or collect armies, under capitalism, start businesses.

SourPatch
SourPatch

Standards of living are good for who? The shrinking middle class? The 1%-ers? Neo-liberalism (aka modern day capitalism) has also widened the gap between rich and poor, made the first world richer at the expense of the third world due to rabid deregulating of their markets, undermined (child) labor laws, and fueled wars and genocide. It may be easy for you at the end of the day to throw up your hands and say “that’s just the way it is!” but I happen to come from one of those “poverty stricken” nations and I can never accept the status quo… Read more »

davidl
davidl

The facts are quite different. Most 3rd world countries are in a phase of bringing many out of poverty. In short over the last 20 years extreme poverty has been halved around the globe. There are many studies showing that things have never been better for over a billion people who live a higher standard than they ever have. I think that what’s happening is that as that top 1% export their work to whoever can do it cheapest, labour markets in first world countries slowly decline. So the only thing that eventually will differentiate a male blue collar worker… Read more »

SourPatch
SourPatch

And where are your reciepts? Cuz while malls and McDonalds spring up everywhere I only see the rich get richer and the poor get poorer (and screwed over by multi national corps). And I don’t live in Australia, and you do know that social services is not a feature of capitalism rite? So I’m not sure where you got out of my post that they needed to be abolished. Unless you mean the charity culture that the West has used to screw over the Third World….because that’s another issue.

pi
pi

I think it might be worth considering the mechanisms by which these nations remain poverty stricken, and the nature of the gains made by those wealthier nations with what might be perceived as a better standard of living.

cal
cal

ta da! GLOBAL capitalism!

skarab
skarab

Yes. And it’s not till the Western countries, who up till now have been benefiting from it, are being negatively affected, that people are actually realising that capitalism only feeds itself and its masters, and has nothing to do with benefiting societies – even those societies which have helped to maintain it, in the mistaken (and selfish) belief that somehow capitalism = democracy. The biggest lie ever concocted.

It’s inevitable, that someone like Tsipras should emerge from this vortex, with others like him, waiting in the wings.

It’s ZZ a-go-go now.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Huh?

Democracy is a political mechanism and approach to governance and distribution of power. It’s an ideology that encompasses free elections, human rights, separation of church & state.

Capitalism is an economic mechanism organised around a free market, with means of production owned by companies rather than the state.

I’m not sure I see your point …

skarab
skarab

Umm, look up irony?…..Well of course they ARE two different mechanisms. I didn’t say they were the same. But it’s when the capitalist propaganda machine that continually drip feeds us that capitalism is good and akin to democracy and freedom that we have a problem. We have moved from being democracies to being corporate states. There are hardly any differences now between the major parties – so voting hardly makes a difference any more. I can state this with all certainty because I’ve witnessed it in the UK, France and Spain – the three countries i have lived in in… Read more »

SourPstch
SourPstch

You put it better than I ever could. My thoughts exactly.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Oh ok .. I see your point. Sorry – I really wasn’t sure what you meant by your first comment, but this makes sense. Yes I agree with most of your comments. Capitalism must be regulated. Expecting the market to correct itself is too unstable in a technologically advanced culture. There need to be corrective mechanisms that are not just market driven, safety nets and social welfare programs to ensure a basic standard of living for the majority, regulated industries that don’t lend themselves to profit motives. And there definitely needs to be a reigning in of the increasing economic… Read more »

skarab
skarab

You’ve hit on the right question, Pi.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Even compared to the States. Seriously. Even po’ folks in Australia have it good.

Been poor in the States. Been poor and middle class in Australia. When it comes to Universal Health Care access and basic amenities this shit here is like…it’s a blessing. And I don’t take a LICK of it for granted AT ALL.

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

Stated by moi. Forgot to add my name.

I was fortunate that my parents migrated to the O-Z at a time when you DID work your ass off you had something to show for it. Unlike our generation which kills itself to work over-time for a bank to own what folks ‘own’ for twenty years.

Anonymous
Anonymous

its still possible, but knowing all the migrant families incl my own relatives, these folks make do with living simply and affordably on city outskirts, sharing resources, being resourceful and working up from there. postcodes, a shopping habit and shiny cars didn’t come into the equation! as i am sure you saw with your own eyes.

Pi
Pi

me ^

doublekataka
doublekataka

I love seeing a Gen-Xer get up there! Go mate, I hope he can pull off at least part of what he’s proposing.

VenusRising
VenusRising

Me too! X

cal
cal

I would just like to congratulate you on the title of this post 🙂

and, well ok why not – go you lefties! their finance guy sounds impressive.

Anonymous
Anonymous

yes! the title of post. “2 thumbs up”

And Jupes is in Leo. Hope it expands in a good way and not just his ego.

VenusRising
VenusRising

@yanisvaroufakis: Good to know: Greece’s finance minister is no extremist – THE TELEGRAPH http://t.co/YSKt4r7jIu

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Perhaps this is another chapter in the crawl towards a new world order. What if there were a covert group of global powerbrokers intent on creating as much destabilisation as possible ie. funding terrorists, releasing viruses, sending nations bankrupt with debt, fuelling further polarisation between conservative/liberal values and christian/muslim cultures leading to more unnecessary violence. Then once things become unmanageably chaotic and the death toll mounts they get to justify the introduction of a new global governance system. I forsee a semi-planned economy, population control, the rise of a global monoculture, genetic screening, population doping etc … Pure fantasy? Maybe.… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

I hate to say it but I was thinking along these lines as well.

lou
lou

Yeah me too. Scary. Hope we are wrong.

PlutonicUranian
PlutonicUranian

At the same time, I can’t help but think that even the opposition is controlled centrally, contrary to what you see on TV and contrary to what these caudillos may spit into microphones, and that perceptions are being managed rather than whole economies.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I’ve thought this as well. I think there is way more rigging than most see.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Funny earlier today I was reading about Greece. Unemployment is 60% in some areas, ppl have malnutrition and can’t afford to vaccinate their kids against preventable diseases like measles, chicken pox etc etc. healthcare and safety nets have broken down. This is what happens when capitalism and right wing ideology is allowed to run rampant. They obvs need to change the way they operate, maybe this guy is the antidote to austerity politics?

Ann
Ann

You must not have heard of Greece’s scarily bloated, inefficient, and corrupt public sector, and did I mention bloated? Private business in Greece is enslaved to crazy-restrictive government laws, which openly favor the public sector (to start with, your education is not even recognized if you went to a private university). To believe capitalism and rightwing ideology is to blame for Greece’s woes is absolutely ludicrous. It is the apotheosis of leftist ideology carried out in the worst way.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Hi Ann, I am trying to make the point that we need safety nets and affordable healthcare and need to support unemployed instead of the rich elites. Most big organisations, public or private, have huge inefficiencies. I prefer left wing ideology because it helps the people, not those in power (the small minority). To be civilised we should care for the majority, and especially the disadvantaged.

Ann
Ann

Leftwing ideology has the capacity to be humanist in the ways that you describe, but as an ideology, it is not inherently good. Or bad. Its capacity for “good” has to do with how it’s implemented. And the way it has been carried out in Greece since around 1981 has been disastrous, utterly disastrous. One can be critical of rightwing ideology and capitalism, and still understand that blaming them for Greece’s economic failures is incredibly…limited, in the least. The two viewpoints don’t cancel each other out.

gemyogi
gemyogi

Ok, let’s agree to disagree.

IMO, left wing ideology is inherently ‘humanist’ and ‘caring’. But that’s just my opinion.

Ann
Ann

It is not a matter of opinion, Gemyogi. There is no innate positive quality in leftwing ideology. There are both good effects and inarguable harms caused directly by leftwing policies. It is actual documented history, not a matter of opinion and interpretation.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

And austerity policies and selling off public assets only makes the rich richer and the ppl poorer. Like Thatcherism.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Prowln there is a group of power brokers controlling the worlds capital and unfortunately they are sociopaths who completely selfish. I hope this will be exposed and disrupted by people power!!

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

I won’t hold my breath for that … people have generally been quite lazy on that subject and willingly hand over their power to authoritarian structures. Not to mention, does the population actually have the insight, knowledge and capacity to create meaningful, sustainable change? Historically all I see is a metaphorical football being kicked between left wing and right wing extremism. What actually works and is best for all gets left behind in a whirlwind of political rhetoric.

PlutonicUranian
PlutonicUranian

It’s important to note that great feats of deception are required to keep liars in power, because,today, their power is largely managed by the discretion of the constituency, by its willful ignorance. Bonds of slavery are mental ones today. You elect to be slave, or you do not vote.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Agreed. And empowerment needs to become more than just the spouting of ideological rhetoric and unqualified opinion. People need to educate themselves about history and political mechanisms rather than allowing the media to tell them what to think.

Anonymous
Anonymous

peeps are too lazy!! dammit. 🙁

They’d much rather read about the Kadashians. So freakin sad!

david5379
david5379

ooof, I hope people don’t think that way, if anything normal boring fascism will make a come back, plus new versions, and the advancement of free market insanity, and the only thing that could stop it WOULD be a world gov. There is already a new unified global order, and it defends standards of market power above all else, until there is a global gov to match it things will stay like this. Imagine being a citizen of your country AND a citizen of earth or whatever, and slowly rights attached to that global citizenship can be advanced and wage… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

lol … well I guess I was hoping that the ZZ would generate something more interesting than yet another boring old fascist dictatorship. But you’re probably right! Humans never learn from history …

GeorgeSand
GeorgeSand

Well I’m half Greek too and I hope they tell Angela Merkel to fuck off. There’s a long history of the German’s benefitting off the backs of the Greeks. Google WWII reparations and Greece if you want to learn more about that dynamic. Okay, that’s a fantasy — the part about telling the Germans to go fuck themselves — but I’m totally with them re the failed policy of austerity and holding the Banksters’ feet to the fire. How ironic if Greek goes Communist and the Banksters are left to bankroll it. Haha!

david5379
david5379

I JUST got the pun, and somehow the song got stuck in my head before I even realized it was one, I was like what the fuck I don’t even like grease haha.

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

As someone with Mars and Merc in Leo…I need to bring this post back to MYSELF. Haaaaaa.

Naw, seriously, he just BROADCASTS pure Leo. Good luck mate.

david5379
david5379

If you guys actually have interest in this stuff, read wolfgang streecks the delayed crisis of democratic capitalism, he basically sums it all up better then anyone out there. Basically globalization lately is just a glut of cheap labor due to so much of a population boom in the third world, countries are not united so the capital class can be dicks with their investment and threaten to invest in the next country that would totally be willing to do the messed up things they want, social services all around the world are being chipped away and the third world… Read more »

david5379
david5379

also I have always noticed people who talk about how big the debt is in the us or whatever invariably end up trying to justify that we won’t be able to afford social services anymore. The debt isn’t the issue anymore, its just a number, all that means is countries are allowed to have more of an excuse to do what the capital class wants, the shareholders in a country gaining more power then the actual citizenry, the problem isn’t debt, the problem is that it will be used to justify cutting govornment, debt is just prolonging that and making… Read more »

PlutonicUranian
PlutonicUranian

Raising or lowering taxes is a red herring. In reality, a government that monopolizes currency issuance (it is indeed “money printing”, you either press ink to paper or create voltages in accounts, difference is in medium not concept, in mechanics not denotation) needs no taxes to function. It creates the money it needs constrained only by the real resources of time, materials, and manpower. Taxes are double-edged sword creating/enforcing demand for the money (try paying taxes in labor, or chocolate) and creating/enforcing inflationary conditions (higher taxes = search for higher profits). The left/right tax/no tax argument is false dichotomy, a… Read more »

david5379
david5379

I am pretty in to econ policy wonk type stuff, saying we shouldn’t be taxed and the gov should just print money is fucking dumb, good credit is important(has decided who wins wars or who wins independence in the past) and good strong currency is important. Being taxed or governed is not innately evil, but thinking we should not be taxed at all or the gov should be smaller won’t help annnnny bad guys at all we should just stop trying to get our own empowerment and vote, naw, we should just, like, hold on to the moral high ground… Read more »

PlutonicUranian
PlutonicUranian

Confusion is defined by mistaking the complex for the profound. Cognitive dissonance on your part – and ad hominem attacks – define one who is confused. Good luck with your way.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Indoctrination is a powerful force no matter what side a person is on David. Being outright dismissive of another’s stance implies the depth of your knowledge is lacking. If you were smarter or better informed you would be capable of engaging in a discussion without resorting to childish outbursts and quotes from cultures you are critical of elsewhere on this page. That was the beautiful irony. Clutching at straws. Maaaan.

david5379
david5379

indoctrination to what? I was playing fast and loose because what he said was dealing in abstraction and below he says people who vote are slaves. If it was a discussion on any of the actual things I said instead of just resorting to the it all being an illusion I would have reacted in kind. And I haven’t been dismissive of any culture, so I don’t know what your talking about. I was getting a kind of smugness and was responding to that, I have some pet peeves so what? Live by the sword die by the sword, being… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Woah Nellie. You were dismissive of the Plutonic Uranian. You quoted a Chinese (the fascists who are a threat because they’re cosying up with the russians who are funding a far right politician in France yadda yadda) proverb to reinforce your point. If you had proffered some of the information contained in your vitriolic rant above in the initial posts in response to the uranian your point would have been a lot better made. But you were clearly so inflamed by the presence of an opinion that is not your own that you became distracted and lost focus. And did… Read more »

Mystic's Diplomat
Mystic's Diplomat

Hey O, This seems like the perfect place to introduce myself – Mystic’s Diplomat. 🙂 I’m Venus in Kataka with Pluto on the Asc, and a shit hot activated Spica (the oasis of the via combusta) @24 Libra. Comments are the place to express thoughts and feeling, of course, while staying respectful of our host MM. . . . and I think what they say about religion and politics is true. It’s evocative waters. there’s bound to be flair ups, at times. Meanwhile, bring Eros (passionate outpouring) for sure, and let’s check the value judgements on each other as much… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

respect is in the eye of the beholder, a muslim problem or an immigration problem? Fuck you? If these are marks of respect of others then this is not the kind of place I can respect.

Mystic's Diplomat
Mystic's Diplomat

Yes, exactly the point. The Policy is to ban abuse.

david5379
david5379

also I really resent being chided for an “outburst” I just kind of have a bombastic tone sometimes because I am in to this stuff, I was a bit more dismissive of him because of what he was saying and how we was presenting it, I am not super angry or very very concerned with this, on an article about a subject I am in to, I shouldn’t be chided for being in to it, fuck you, and if someone comes and responds to that with it all being an illusion and we are just slaves well that is kind… Read more »

Shmo
Shmo

Just a fyi, Putin got 90% as other media is not allowed over they, party opposition gets threats and is put in prison, journalists who are anti Putin are killed or put in prison, professors in uni’s even get fired/out away. It is actually just a very powerful minority’ that is facist, and using real fear inducing techniques to lock the rest of the country in its grip. Very sad and scary state of affairs

david5379
david5379

I am aware of those things, that’s how it works, didn’t mean russia was innately evil or that its their people’s fault at all, they have a very huge propaganda machine and its not at all surprising the trend they are riding

Anonymous
Anonymous

it’s a fundamentalist problem. not a muslim problem.

david5379
david5379

by muslim problem, I meant the immigration trouble they have in europe, not that the whole religion/culture is at fault

PlutonicUranian
PlutonicUranian

Once you start up a fire sign, well, Mick Jagger sang it best. Hang on to your loved ones, all, things are about to get very interesting…

VenusRising
VenusRising

@IrvineWelsh: This is a brilliant, must-read piece. It’s about Greece, but it’s about us all. http://t.co/GoFfO0D4Ys #GreeceIsTheWord

VenusRising
VenusRising

I do hate all the ‘othering’ going on when Greeks are discussed.

#jesuisalexis

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