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Even as Mars nearing Pluto prompts awesome regeneration and empire building notions, Venus is approaching Saturn: relationship reality check moments that may be amazingly cool and lucid OR…they could feel not so pleasant. And yes, this clarity is applying to relationships past, relationships present and relationships future. It’s not just Venus on Saturn – it’s Venus on Saturn in SCORPIO, sign of depth perception, the limbic brain and reptilian urges. Hands up who wants to knock over some shonky edifices with one swish of their almighty scaly tail already?

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Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

Qi vamps coming out of the wood work in hordes!
Just got a shitty guilt trippy manipulative email from an ex-friend, the one dramaticalled booted back in 2012. It sounded like an apology but when dissected proved to be nothing more than a narcissistic accusatory bitchfest.

Amongstars
Amongstars

This post is everything to me today! I had an awesome moment of clarity at The Black Keys concert last night. On Wednesday night I gave my number to this attractive guy that plays in a band at a bar I go to sometimes and had met briefly two weeks prior. Just the prospect of a potential anything (I’ve had a really dry past three years romantically and what not) after so long started putting me in love zombie mode unconsciously. At the concert last night with one of my favorite songs playing, me standing there in pure bliss, standing… Read more »

MiM
MiM

Happy for you! Well done on your powerful and very truthful insights.

“Revel in your independence” – love that! It should definitely be on a T-shirt. I will buy the first one!

amongstars
amongstars

Thank you 🙂 ! The day after I set myself straight he asked me out and we went to drinks.

Ms.
Ms.

yes. saturn has its neon hi lighter out like a boss editor over your work. loving the insight though brutal, after all the neptune squares and oppositions its good to know where you stand. Thinking a lot about roots, home work and love. Empire building why and on what. All the light things.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Several days ago, Anne Lamott posted on her facebook page

“Expectations are resentments under construction.”

— Venus – Saturn reality check

Ms.
Ms.

hmm. thats good.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I saw that and I LOVE that line! So true.

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

I’m not 100% sold on the uselessness of expectations. i get it, when you try to apply expectations to relationships and people, but not so much other life things. Not having expectations will eventually equal a boundary transgression. example: i send my kids to school and have expectations that they will learn. If they don’t learn i might be angry at the school or them, depending on who causes the problem. But why even send them to school if there is no expectation of learning? Or is that more hope than expectation? Also you give a friend money and ask… Read more »

calypso
calypso

the examples you describe operate more like contracts to me, than expectations, if that helps?

I love the quote btw.

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux

hmm this conjunction is also conjunct my descendent…so far there’s been nothing in the “amazing insight” in basket, but maybe I’m just being deliberately thick…

pi
pi

as always am translating venus as Art and Money landing in my lap, not love and relationships. so, seems fitting.

had a really helpful conversation with a sculpture lecturer today. it really brought home to me how very little i know.. sigh. oh well thats a venus saturn in the 5th house reality check isn’t it. always harsh with my cappy moon in the mix! now if you will excuse me I am going to apply for jobs in Finance and investment. the money has to be somewhere and art ain’t it, but then again I never thought it was 😉

Anonymous
Anonymous

Oh no pi, don’t say that ….there is money to me made in art, there has to be…dear god, there has to beeeee!!…. My partner and i have just published two small books on his photo fine art projects. These two books are gonna be his marketing tool. They are beautifully designed and they cost a fuqing fortune to create. BUT

scarab
scarab

Oooops, dunno what happened there… …BUT, as i was saying, THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE US RICH IN THE END. YES THEY ARE. (Or at least take us further away from the the rat race and more independent, preferably on a tropical isle) So i checked the astro chart for the “birth” of his books, and as i’m only a novice at reading astro charts, i’m not really too sure what to make of it yet, but a couple of things on the Asc stand out: transiting True Node was conjunct his natal Sun (Libra) and conjunct Asc (Lib too),… Read more »

Veronica
Veronica

It’s a loooong haul to make money from art, but it does happen, eg Tasmanian artist Phillip Wolfhagen, (still can’t work out how to make links on IPad, sorry :/ look at clip Illumination the art of Phillip Wolfhagen) his canvases go for $60 grand, and there is a waiting list. But you have to keep at it for years, I remember seeing his work around 20 years ago. And i was at art school with Ben Quilty and a few other notables from Sydney scene, and there is no prescribed path except to keep working at it and entering… Read more »

Veronica
Veronica

I always think of Rosalie Gascogne, who did not really start her practice til she was in her late 50’s

scarab
scarab

YES!!!

sphinx
sphinx

Since I have been living with Saturn crushing my Moon for the last, I dunno YEAR, Venus is welcome to set up shop there too.
I mean it can’t get worse can it? CAN it?

sphinx
sphinx

oh, I just notice that Pluto is stationing exactly opposite my natal Saturn •chews fingernails*.

It’s this Taurus Moon. It should be renamed Godzilla Moon.

Hm, let’s see, checklist of things to knock off or over:
* shonky democratic government system with their stoopid debt driven economic system & media/blackmarket/weapons/drugs/banking stranglehold.
* a couple kilos
* .. oh, it’s wine o’clock..

Anonymous
Anonymous

How’s Saturn on Moon, Sphinx? My father is going to go through it and I’m hoping he will be ok… Things have not been easy for him for quite awhile.

Anonymous
Anonymous

It sux! But it gives great perspective & support in the work environment if you work with emotions which I do.

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

It sucks pretty bad but not as bad as over your venus, which is over my MC. You feel shitty and worthless for no reason, nothing helps not even a cute guy winking at you. you develop serious debilitating illness and almost die, if you are me. The last time Saturn was in the same place, i survived a suicide attempt. My moon is in the 12th house so ymmv.

I can’t wait for that POS to move on, but he’s just going to run over my ASC so i wonder how crappy that will be?

akapluto
akapluto

I’m reading “Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus”. Haha.

All hetero-normative limitations aside, it’s actually a very insightful read. There’s me doing that Saturn/Venus homework…

Ms.
Ms.

lol

MiM
MiM

I find that book incredibly sexist. It’s as if John Gray lives in an 1850s wonderland. Not wonderland as in magical, but wonderland as in lost the plot.

To be honest, I think that book damages relationships, not to mention hurtful to (especially) women. Hurtful to men too, as it teaches (and reveres) outdated, boxed-in gender stereotypes.

I recycled my copy years ago – wood pulp is its only practical romantic destiny.

Cocodiego
Cocodiego

Oooooh yeah, feel like my dirty dark coal is either gonna combust or turn into a diamond. Each breakthrough followed by a deeper issue. Muggle family caring but trying to find intellectual solutions to emotional questions. Feel nostalgia for the life I need to live. The trappings are powerful, beastly, jabberwocky bred. Have sword, willing to swing it. Even if I do get RSI.Better than soulache. Good luck whatever your battle may be. Gotta be warrior queen, when I wanna be fluffbunny.

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

godzilla is def a girl. she lays eggs.

Weird times. Parent problems.
An idiot Libra LZing over me. i will have to talk to this one. The one guy who actually likes me back in a long time, and i can’t stand his needy ass. The worst part is that he is actually good looking. Erg. I want to godzilla stomp everything.

Redlipstick Virgo
Redlipstick Virgo

Having uncomfortable time – something is off with inner ear after virus so home from work for two days feeling dizzy – doing affirmations and looking at metaphysical. Trying to unhook energetically/mental from sleezy selfish liar Scorp. He is just ignoring me despite my closure email this morning – I just go batshite inside when I am ignored. Feels really bad and I find it so hard to understand why someone can’t just say ‘had a great time, have a nice life’ it is confusing to be ignored. Maybe that’s why the dizziness I just don’t understand and deep down… Read more »

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

Sometimes i write closure emails and never send them. I burn them. It gives me peace of mind even if the other person doesn’t see them.

Redlipstick Virgo
Redlipstick Virgo

I like that idea – had a burning last night wrote down all the things I wanted to release including that person. It’s not shifting for some reason.

calypso
calypso

try thinking that people, things, messages, don’t automatically require any kind of response. or think about sending things out without expectation. I find requiring a response gives your power to the other person, so you can empower yourself by feeling that your own action is adequate to your needs. you’ve done what you need to do for you. whatever happens after that is….whatevs good luck 🙂

Redlipstick Virgo
Redlipstick Virgo

Thank you – got a surprise reply today once I totally let go of any expectations and just let it be. x

aqua lion
aqua lion

nice quote I saw yesterday online:

“the problem with putting other people first,
is that it teaches them that you come second”.

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

Ooh i gotta text myslf that…for the future.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Now, how does that hold up with the quote shared below “expectations are just resentments under construction?”

Ariel
Ariel

What about relationships with parents? Mine with them is undergoing some serious internal strain right now. I live with them & am feeling frustrated about their homophobia & non-acceptance of sexual diversity. It’s the same-old, same-old, feeling controlled by their conservatism when I am a REBEL pattern again. I really struggle to feel like I fit with my family sometimes, & this is one of many reasons why – I do not see the world or life the way they do.

Ariel
Ariel

Oh, & I’ve got Pluto in Scorp in the 4th conjunct the IC of course, so I guess this (otherwise beautiful) Full Moon is illuminating that.

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

All the best…sounds v. difficult.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

My entire family life got restructured with Pluto-IC transit (parents divorced, sister died, birthed my daughter, got divorced myself). Trust the process. Its Pluto. You’ve got no choice anyway. Authenticity or death. Move?

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

Def having parent problems here. Mostly about boundaries and how i have to defend so aggressively. Scorp moon in the 12th, saggo asc.

gemini cat
gemini cat

My mother is acting up lately (Cap moon, Scorpio stellium square Leo 1st house stellium, Libra sun). I think she’s trying to reassert a parental role after behaving like the child for the past few years, but in a way that is boundary crossing to me. Although she has always been boundary crossing to me, so nothing new there.

GeminiRising
GeminiRising

Hey man! im temporary living with my parents because i wanted to do some closure about those things you mention, and even they mind they’re own bussiness its terribly frustrating when they pretend i’m not gay or just casually mention a shrink. BUT, and even if i don’t have Pluto in the 4th like you, i’ve discovered (and Mercury Retrograde helped me there) that the more i work in my self esteem issues, the easier it becomes to deal with the family crap. I swear it works, focus a lot on your own evolution and inner peace really helps with… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

“Slowly i become the father that i always wanted to have”

YES!

calypso
calypso

and it’s a YES from me 🙂

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

YAH am feeling it.

redsonya
redsonya

I have been one pissy scorp bitch all day. Need to wake up refreshed and not willing to put up with any BS ever again tomorrow.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I don’t know. (Venus in Virgo getting opposed by transiting Neptune).

flowerchild
flowerchild

*raises hand* ME! My Venus at 6 Cap, just transited over by Mars at 8 Cap, Pluto just inside my 7th house at 11 Cap — my Descendant is 10 Cap. Transiting Venus and Saturn are in my 5th house, with Saturn being very close to my natal Neptune at 26 Scorpio. God, if I could finally break through my tendency to have self-destroying romantic illusions/delusions, that would be the liberation of my lifetime.. I cannot stand it one minute longer the way I do relationships, I always get drained of all my power, as if relationships were kryptonite to… Read more »

Charley
Charley

You sound like you’re exactly where I’m at and suffering the same patterns/situations, the power draining is my biggest issue, I change and become someone very weak no matter what I do to try and stop it. Very frustrating. I just started therapy too, building up slowly to have EMDR. Been pushed to this point by Pluto amongst other things but it feels exciting to think things could change drastically if I’m open to it. Good luck, really hope it works for you.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Thanks! I hope the therapy you’re doing makes a strong positive change for you too! EMDR is cool! I’m also going to be learning a somatic trauma release technique called TIPI. I wonder if part of it all is social conditioning, gender role conditioning or something, not just individual psyche stuff, that affects being in a relationship. I’ve always felt stronger on my own than in a relationship with a man, and I’ve heard so many other women I’ve known say that, and then you read articles about it, so it’s definitely ‘a thing’, not unique to me alone! What… Read more »

LotusFlower
LotusFlower

Good luck Flowerchild and Charley! I’m in a similar place. Pluto has been transiting my Libra 13 Venus seemingly forever and activating my loose natal Venus-7Pluto conjunction. I’ve always been drawn to transformation through relationships and having an absent father doesn’t exactly set you up for chug-along happy partnering -sadly. On a good day, I see it as my dharma, or my lot in this life. On a bad day, I can feel fragile and as you say damaged to the degree that I wonder if what the point is, if I ever can change. Lack of hope is a… Read more »

calypso
calypso

hello LF, sounds similar to my sit – Libra Venus at 12, so also enjoying the Pluto square 😯 In the last few days I have started watching Pluto move along at 7 mins a day….can’t wait for this one to be over. For me, transformation in how I love has required a lot of healing and letting go of past stuff. I have been more introverted and solo than usual too. I haven’t been interested in romance. I’m going with it. I couldn’t have done that work that I have if I’d been out on dates, it was inner… Read more »

LotusFlower
LotusFlower

Lovely Calypso – thank you so much for your kind and compassionate reply. Re going slow and your advice to let myself – that is right on the money. It’s hard to let myself off that hook of needing to feel like I am constantly making progress. But so often, as you say, most of the inner work is done at a time when it looks entirely still on the surface. I am going with the winter feeling. Letting myself be stiller than usual, so that the inner work can happen. Old grief is coming up and very old inherited… Read more »

The Baroness
The Baroness

This Taurus just wants to graze on quality…grass. Yes, that’s the word – grass. Male, Clark-Kentish looking grass. Guess I’m horny no matter the astro weather *wanders over to the shaded area*

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