Non Recommended Reading For Love Zombies

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In my Love Zombies – From Ghoul To Cool – book (how not to have your brains eaten by delusion, imaginary or unavailable relationships), there will be a NON-RECOMMENDED READING LIST.  Maybe i will even call it Banned Books. Set up a boho, non-bigoted branch of the Vatican.

So on the Non Recommended Reading For Love Zombies list will be Khalil Gibran – nothing against the gentleman, i know his The Prophet is like the original bible of the new age movement, seminal and all that. But schizz like this is a trigger for even the most staunch Zombie in recovery:

“The Reality of The Other Person Lies Not In What He Reveals To You, But What He Cannot Reveal To You.
Therefore, If You Would Understand Him, Listen Not To What He Says, But Rather To What He Does Not Say.”
— Khalil Gibran

 

Yeah right. Crank the Zombie Vision up to high and fetch some Blue Devil Hoochie Juice – it’s time to go onto the Dark Web.

Also on the Non Recommended List – any site with the terms “twin flames” or “star seeds.”  They’re like sugar to crack cells or whatever is something inflammatory, bad and zombie-fying.  AND they routinely cut and paste basically my entire Soul-Mating E-book (the Eros & Pysche one) and just post it as their work. They must know they’re doing it because they NEVER have contact e-mails or forms on their sites.

And it’s not just me obviously. I have seen whole tracts of people like (the amazing legendary Jungian astrologer) Liz Greene posted on these stupid sites, with the “author” apparently being someone not Liz Greene but a person clad in a lilac cobweb and henna perm with apparently a direct line into Atlantis/Alpha Centauri.

Maybe they feel like theft is more like some goobly nebulae of light that they also seed off and so namaste. It is astonishing how many of the new age, gerbera, polyester kaftan star seed brigade rip off other peeps work. God, even casino and sex sites email me to ASK if they can repost something.

Anyway, what would YOU put on the Non-Recommended Reading List For Love Zombies Or At Risk Recovering Zombies?

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flowerchild
flowerchild

I know this is about NON-recommended reading for LZ’s, but my god, the antidote to all LZ-ing is Mark Manson.

This article is so right on:

Love Is Not Enough

http://markmanson.net/love

SO loving Venus and Saturn transiting right on my Neptune in the 5th. The reality check, and idealistic love-busting vibes is really helping me right now. I wish this transit could just stay there on my Neptune permanently!

Feline
Feline

Add to the do not listen/watch list- operas, especially “Tosca”, and “Carmen”. The music by itself might be ok.

Maybe the ballet “Giselle” should be on the list, too. This one pains me, as I adore it, but it could be unhealthy for some. “Swan Lake”, too.

aqua lion
aqua lion

Anything by Virginia Andrews (Angel, Heaven, Flowers in the Attic etc). Don’t even ask what they did to my teenage mind, and so addictive..!

samantha
samantha

erm. just had a nasty viral infection and spent a weekend with an australian tv series called Spirited recommended by a friend. Add it to the list.

A divorced uptight dentist (Claudia Karvan) falls in love with the ghost of an english punk rock star who is trapped in her apartment building.

It’s quirky and funny and dark but… yeah definitely a love zombie trigger. Especially if you have a thing for musicians. (who me?)

cancercaprising
cancercaprising

lol me too. tho 50 shades of mr darcy a crack up!

Venus Cazimi
Venus Cazimi

Wow, great thread re: Love Zombie aka Stockholme Syndrome!

Avoid at all costs music list (this is exhaustive & not at all complete)

: Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, Shania Twain…

Do not read (do not include in your astrodienst log)

:His or a prospective His natal, Transitting or progressed chart including natal, Transitting or progressed synastry & composite

Any advice on an online dating site – if it ain’t there it just ain’t there!

Methinky
Methinky

The Time Traveller’s Wife – one of my favourite books ever!! Being a recovering LZ not only did I fetishise stalking Mr Object D’amour through time and space but I gave the bloke I am now married to, the love of my life, a copy two weeks after we met. Thank goodness he never read it!!!! He worked out my crazy cray streaks in other ways but I am pretty sure I’m mainly recovered and mr saggi cap remains amused at my occasional passionate relapses.

calypso
calypso

yeah, my boyfriend told me about it 😉

flowerchild
flowerchild

Ugh, that ‘twin flame’ shizz, too…… I really got taken in by it when I first ever heard about the idea of twin flames because it was exactly during a several year period of my worst LZ-ing on record, and the twin flame thing only fueled the fire, so to speak.. I can be SO gullible! I LZ’d about one guy for about seven years…..un-f*cking-believable. Really effed myself up with that one! Felt so relieved when I somehow finally released myself from that, and hopefully I’ve learned to see through this bullsh*t now…. At the time, I remember a psychic… Read more »

Birdstar
Birdstar

When we get to banning music I have four count em FOUR play lists on spotify that need to be burned on the lz charnel grounds.

Seagoat
Seagoat

hmmm yes, I think LZism can be fueled by anything in written word..,how about a full on Ghoul to Cool curriculum intervention. (I think it’s called curriculum with intent?) Young scholars should write their own stories before they ever even pick up a book; deconstruction a core competency. No Carpenters and, under any circumstances, no humming or no dancing alone to (is this burning an) Eternal Flame.

Ezhirri
Ezhirri

Pablo Neruda

Love him, but his stuff will make me thinking of people that were evicted from my life/mind/heart years ago.

Lisa Lisa
Lisa Lisa

Stay away from Dr. Zhivago and Wuthering Heights.

Libra Dress Historian
Libra Dress Historian

I agree with the above comments, a Love zombie will read hope into everything. Probably even ‘Terminator 4’. But I can’t say how much I love the title ‘From Ghoul to cool’!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Recommended – Love Freedom & Aloneness – Osho

Centaurus

Anonymous
Anonymous

Curiously enough poetry and great love books have helped overcome lovezombiness by reassuring that there is a mistery and a Socrate “I know I don’t know anything” type of philosophy. It has helped me not to idealise a human being and put my transcendence (if there is any), metaphisycs thoughts above humans, and above myself. Because lovezombiness is not only the fact that he is not there, he is not present, he is not real, it is also an incomensurable felt sense that he is what you need to be whole. The connection via his eyes, his breath, his gestures,… Read more »

pi
pi

THIS demonstrates a lot of insight imo and I think you go to The heart of what drives very strong emotional attachments or beliefs about a romantic interest who is not available to us for some reason. I am SO GLAD that you also mentioned poetry, a matter close to my heart. God there is just so much beautiful work out there. I know we read poems very personally but i wanted to share this as it is about , well lots of things. But when I read it had a moment of enlightenment, shed some tears, and realised maybe… Read more »

moonstark
moonstark

Avoid: linda goodman’s love signs wuthering heights bridget jones’ diary ‘chick lit’ in general your synastry & composite charts, over & over his social networking pages self-help books for couples (….just accept that you’re not operating from a ‘couple’ orientation — person X is not going to change via this book you read alone) basically anything that is the least bit romantic; where the protagonist is lovelorn; anything you can read yourself and person X into the narrative Suggested reading: ‘how should a person be’ by sheila heti ‘women, sex, and addiction’ by charlotte kasl ‘all about love’ by bell… Read more »

moonstark
moonstark

*independent

*eta: subtract ‘fear of flying’ — too relationship-centred… but she must have a more suitable anti LZ book in her biblio

hdq
hdq

Yes to Mary Oliver and Gary Snyder. NO to Edna St. Vincent-Millay and Lorca!!!! No Hafiz. No Rilke. Absolutely no e e cummings. Jeffers and Williams instead. Anything metaphysical is zomb fodder. Campbell, Crowley, Blavatsky (ridiculous!), books of the dead – I’ve done them all. Magick of course is both a bad bad bad idea and irresistible, so no to all Little Books of Love Spells, put down the Hine and Regardie and Starhawk. The antidote is Edward Abbey and the permaculture manual. And absolutely positootly no Bright Eyes!! (Signed allergic to rom-coms and novels pro LZ. Except Jane Eyre.… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Laugh, but Judith Krantz novels are the perfect antidote for LZs (if MM were to want a Recommended Book List). One might think Trash Chic Lit, when Judith Krantz is mentioned, but the chic lead characters in her novels always win no matter what nor how miserable they feel when they fall prey to some dastardly male who tries to own them. In fact her books are like the A-Z of fighting Love Zombiedom.

Anonymous
Anonymous

BTW hdq, the above comment was not meant to be here on your patch. It was meant to go at the end of the thread.

pi
pi

Judith k! Bam. Summer reading list sorted!! The classics can wait.

pi
pi

Am I a weirdo for taking a perverse pleasure in the possibility that someone would see me reading trash-fic and instantly judge me as non worthy of knowing. Oh it makes my mars in aqua SING, the contrariness of it all !! Mwaha

Leoscorpgem
Leoscorpgem

Oh I love it! Thank u for the “spoiler”- all the women end up/coming out better off!. Yes.

pi
pi

Omg hdq yes!! Pop metaphysics is definitely non recommended reading! *_O

CousinRibby
CousinRibby

Oh but DO read ‘How to Save Your Own Life’ by Erica Jong.. especially if you were seeing some scorpionic fuckboy who will never remember your birthday, be there when you’re sick, skip the chance to pick a fight, let alone commit, etc..

CousinRibby
CousinRibby

Don’t read ‘Way of the Superior Man’.. It’ll make you bitter and frustrated that your ex is such an immature, selfish jerk.. you’ll wistfully think about how he has the potential to be like that, if he only…… then you’ll plot how you could ‘helpfully’ give it to him to read, then…….blah blah blah not worth it

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

Non Listening List – Moonlight Shadow

Pegasus
Pegasus

What a wonderfully pragmatic piece you have written Myst! Exactly what i have seen at all New Age bookshops OPS (other peeps stuff) regurgitated over and over. ‘I send you greetings from a far galaxy and just want you to know you are being watched over by us enlightened beings to guide your evolution into becoming starseeds. You are all beautiful and loving, we see that and your twin flame is coming to you to assist on your journey to a higher dimension of BeingHood. Yeah right! Men used to be for sperm and support mostly – but times have… Read more »

leogroover
leogroover

Story of O? that and Erica Jong books were my fodder at 15yrs. Sure they shaped my LZ traits at an early age that and Disney. Plus with venus in Kataka Im a born natural – a total goner. Im much stronger and wiser now and have no need for LZism as all is good in my Leo realm.

Leoscorpgem
Leoscorpgem

Yes Venus in Cancer here….can we say-fave Christopher reeve movie is NOT superman but “somewhere in Time”…ugh- that LZ killing penny!!! I hate that penny!!!! I hate my Venus in cancer….. Lol!

Crime of the Century
Crime of the Century

I wouldn’t have got thru my teenage years without Kate Bush’s “Wuthering Heights” or the album it came from. I still consider the “Kick Inside” an all time top 10 album. She has been my femme music crush all thi time. (a bloke is not spose to admit this sort of stuff)

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

OMG, “The Man With the Child in His Eyes.”

He’s here again!!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous

every man should have a femme music crush. it’s ok. pi

Lilith
Lilith

the fuqing notebook

Horned Serpent
Horned Serpent

How about a non recommended playlist. I think Shirley Bassey’s “Never Never Never” would be right up there.

Recommended listening would have to include “Since I Left You” by the Avalanches. This song helped me break out of an LZ situation back in 2001.

Here is a url to copy and paste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfAuFAgHpzc

calypso
calypso

yes, and for the recommended playlist, Dylan’s “Don’t think twice, it’s alright” which I did send to a Gemini once after our relationship ended in him being a Gemini 😉

Aries girl
Aries girl

Ahhhahaha the quote!!!!!
A non recommended reading list is sooo appropriate!

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

Interesting replies! What I’m getting is that LZ can make fuel out of almost anything!

Hardeep
Hardeep

Fabulous commentary. I remember a movie in my late teens that cured me of many love zombie beliefs. I think it was called A man in love – woman falls for married charmer, promises the world and to leave his partner. The wise mother(i think) said simply “if he can do that to someone he can do that to you”. My own love zombie tendencies flared around rejection – enen if i cared not for some one i crumbled at break ups. So my films of choice involve anything that reunites star crossed lovers. I tended to get bored once… Read more »

Hardeep
Hardeep

By the river peidra she sat fown an wept by paul coehlo is a def lz read

flowerchild
flowerchild

Non-recommended reading for LZ’s…..excellent idea! I agree that films should be included, like most Disney films, rom-com’s, etc. I think all of this stuff has such a massive impact on the collective psyche and social conditioning and is very toxic. I know I got conditioned in this direction by watching these types of films my whole life, they get you young, right, with the Disney stuff…….just the right prince comes along and only his kiss can wake you up……..ugh! I want to clear the cache in my brain of all this shite!!!!!! I truly envy people who have never LZ’ed…..… Read more »

pi
pi

Your astro sounds very mermaidy! I understand what you are saying though. Wishing you well on the pathway to understanding xox

Flowerchild
Flowerchild

Mermaidy, yes!
I do love to swim and have mostly always lived by the ocean..
Funny, one time I was a ‘mermaid in training’ for Halloween and I wore children’s ‘swimmies’ on my upper arms, those inflatable thingies.

katacato
katacato

Would Euripides’ Medea end up on the recommended or non?
To be honest, it was like a tonic for me last week.
Cleared my case of the old LZ right up.

TripleL
TripleL

Holy horse shit, ladies — hands down, the all-time, MUST avoid like a scorching case of herpes AND total mind melting bender, cross-generational LZ-susceptible intervention — “Cinderella”. Teach ’em young, my strong & wise, Astro sisters!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yikes! Fairy tales! Sleeping Beauty, rapunzel, anything with a princess. I remember the ‘wise’ grandmother decorating the Little Mermaid’s tail with stingy molluscs sagely saying ” One must suffer pain to be beautiful”. Prep for wearing heels? Sheesh

Anonymous
Anonymous

oh hell yes. prince charming is a fairy tale and thence he stays gals

Quitelight
Quitelight

How about Anne Rice? I seem to remember lots of empassioned beamoaning in those… especially Lasher, I think…

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

De Profundis by Oscar Wilde! Basically a long book-length letter to Lord Alfred Douglas written from jail. It makes zombie-ing sound so noble and poetic!

Any Paulo Coelho crapola. But most especially The Alchemist, see particularly all the parts about one Fatima, woman of the desert, who was — gag — used to waiting?! Noooo, no she wasn’t!

Love in the Time of Cholera. The Unbearable Lightness of Being. The Great Gatsby.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Love in the Time of Cholera – this times a thousand

Leoscorpgem
Leoscorpgem

Yaaaasssssss!!!!!!

Leoscorpgem
Leoscorpgem

That’s yes to De Profundis. Fantastic book but NO! The Soul of Man….. Swoon….but that relationship was a hot mess.

pi
pi

it’s funny though you know. I find that rom coms, rom tragedies (the notebook, out of africa e.g. ), joan collins novels (?) actually help to mitigate any power-crush I have going on. my desire to indulge in romantic smoosh, has an outlet that wld be otherwise stymied by the absence of the guy. so I can vicariously indulge these feelings without having to obsess too much over the actual person./ figment.

pi
pi

gosling films an exception though, since he is an actual objet de zomb in my life. sorry gos. you know it. all the civilian crushing on a Public Scorp must be like .. a tesla coil gathering electricity from the air. i mean does the man even need sleep with that energy coming in?

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes, i often think of that. all that sexual energy being focused on one person by millions of people – how would that affect them on their ethereal or energetic or even spiritual level? …do they become some kinda godling (no pun intended,pi) in a parallel/alternative reality…maybe…..or do these sexual feelings become some kind of energy that is being harvested by some cosmic entity….
(scarab)

Anonymous
Anonymous

It’s a thing. Def. Think of live shows, musicians in front of huge crowds, tens of thousands of people directing energy andattention to 2,3,6people on stage at the same time and in an energetic state. No wonder rock stars etc live on a different plane.

6 of Cups
6 of Cups

Umm… Flowers in the Attic?

Anything by J C Andrews.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

When I was in the depths of love zombiedom, pretty much anything would trigger me. But, King Lear. I know its a love story between daughter and a father. But, so was a lot of my need and clingyness derived from that.
“For thee, oppressèd King, I am cast down.
Myself could else outfrown false fortune’s frown.”

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

No, no, no, no! Come, let’s away to prison.
We two alone will sing like birds i’ th’ cage.
When thou dost ask me blessing, I’ll kneel down
And ask of thee forgiveness. So we’ll live,
And pray, and sing, and tell old tales, and laugh
At gilded butterflies, and hear poor rogues
Talk of court news, and we’ll talk with them too—
Who loses and who wins, who’s in, who’s out—
And take upon ’s the mystery of things
As if we were God’s spies. And we’ll wear out
In a walled prison packs and sects of great ones
That ebb and flow by the moon.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

That’s good shit

Anonymous
Anonymous

It’s very sweet. Ah, Cordelia!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Sufi poetry; Rumi et al. I mean, I love it still. But its toxic in the hands of a love zombie.

Beth
Beth

Yes RUMI should defo be off the list… cant believe it wasn’t #1! 😉

samadhi
samadhi

I was just about to write RUMI! hahaha. Good call. There should also be a ban music list. Thinking GooGoo Dolls, Come to Me….. Argh. The list goes on.

Leoscorpgem
Leoscorpgem

pats self on back for leaving the Big Book of Rumi behind glass on a shelf and daring not to go through its pages

Amanda aka AbsintheDragonfly
Amanda aka AbsintheDragonfly

Add Diana Gabaldon’s books to the list.

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

The count of monte cristo.
But pretty much every other ageist and misogynist bullshit story out there.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Hee hee this picture is classic! Mills and Boon/Kitsch Fantasy/Flesh/Blue Steel Looks/Symbol Laden…there’s not much it does not say!

sweetpea
sweetpea

So “Ghoul to Cool” means Gemmy got it.. Go the Gem! 😯 x

leogroover
leogroover

Go gem my !

sweetpea
sweetpea

“muggle FF”…is that for Fuq Face? lol

You make me giggle Maleificent.

“only want men as sex objects”, ahh, if only I had thought of that back when.

scarab
scarab

“Ana Karenina” – that has everything in it: society and hypocrisy, passion and desire, the progress of society, family, marriage, fidelity, faith etc. But it’s the gruelling LZombiness of Ana K towards Vronsky which is epic.

scarab
scarab

As a lover of High Romance that i am, this novel actually turned me off being a LZ at a very early age….and a good thing too….though admittedly, i’ve had a few glitches along the way.

Circe Baby
Circe Baby

During ‘The Love Zombie Years’ any romantic film was off limits as it would reduce me to a puddle of frantic longing.

I don’t want to be a tragic literary character EVER AGAIN. So normalising/dramatising it is entirely off the menu for me. So much of what falls within storytelling has been rendered for me pathetic in these post LZ days …

capintransit
capintransit

Wuthering Heights …. taught to every teenage girl at school. How do we end up getting anywhere else, but here, when that is what we learn …

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Ha ha! Just commented that one above and then saw yours below. Total lz material. And a how-to on staying in an abusive relationship.

Pi
Pi

yeah it would have been nice to do some critical readings of the classics . might have made me more interested in english lit.

Pi
Pi

in high school

Pi
Pi

for example/ if [for australian peeps] someone had compared the spoof TV show Houso’s to Pride and Prejudice, I might have understood the whole pisstake/irony thing better as a a 14 y.o instead of stalling at the bonnet drama and fusty social scenes.

Pi
Pi

sorry not sorry to all austen tragics [ok ok she’s ok i get it these days] but feck still

leogroover
leogroover

love houses

MiM
MiM

What a great point! Especially in high school it’s SO IMPORTANT to learn how NOT to be a love zombie, or at least realise that there is a world – a life! – out there that exists over and above any love relationships. I would recommend feminist literature coupled with humour as best books to be on the list to combat love-zombiedom. On that note: Anne Summers’ ‘Damned Whores and God’s Police’ (best book title ever, right?) could be a good starting point! It’s available as e-book now -here: http://annesummers.com.au/ Question is whether schools will ever have the guts and… Read more »

k
k

Sun Signs by Linda Goodman.
Total fuel for my adolescent zombie tendencies.

Amanda aka AbsintheDragonfly
Amanda aka AbsintheDragonfly

LOL Anything by Linda Goodman 😀 Star Signs too I think it was. Though I won’t pan her too much, she was my intro to astrology.

Ampersand
Ampersand

On the subject of Liz Greene and plagiarism, has anyone noticed how her Astrology for Lovers is almost an exact rip-off of Love Signs? And I love Liz Greene but that is disappointing.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Love Signs by LG was my blue hoochie juice 😉

R
R

Ooh ooh, ANYTHING by that little toad that wrote that Men are from Mars shite!! I just want to slap him.

Quitelight
Quitelight

People kept giving me copies of that book when I first moved in with my Mr. I kept one to fling around the room when I had computer problems.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I read it in the bath, briefly, then threw it across the room. It sounded good slapping the tiles… So not totally useless

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

YES. I bloody hate those books!

Also Wuthering Heights should be banned,

And any book the LZ’s target of affections has recommended or raved about.

When I was an LZ, a bloke I was fixated on recommended Brideshead Revisited and I read it over an over looking for symbolism of our non-existent relationship. I could have spent that time eating cake, or disco dancing with wolves–what a fuqing waste of time!!!

leogroover
leogroover

yes spot on R. i was gonna post that but was getting through the thread first.

Redlipstick Virgo
Redlipstick Virgo

Jane Eyre – Charlotte Bronte was original love zombie. Her letters to Belgian professor Heger literally bleed of the page. One in particular can just make you cry where she is in Englamd and writes to say she knows she is only permitted to contact him once a year but can she break the rule. This letter torn in two, was filched from the waste basket and stitched back together with thead (sticky tape not existing then) people presume by Zoe Heger his wife to been the needle woman … But what if it was him who regretted tearing it… Read more »

Fauness
Fauness

Stitching together a torn love letter is so hardcore. Wow.

Pi
Pi

yeah that struck me as kind of beautiful. but i would love to have had a look at that stitching. in those days, you know, needle & thread was the wife’s domain. I am trying to imagine her carefully stitching together a love letter from a fan of her husband. *scratches head* museums would surely talk about this in the notes etc

Redlipstick Virgo
Redlipstick Virgo
Anonymous
Anonymous

thank you!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Was thinking Wuthering Heights. I’d just stay away from the Brontes.

Apparently Emily Dickinson was a love zombie too, but if you stay away from her letters, you should be OK.

zenduende
zenduende

Snap 12thHV : ) I was going to say Wuthering Heights is the bible of the LZ… and I should know : )

pi
pi

apropos of the actual post, might i suggest ..
…peruses bookshelf…
hmm

*blows dust off textbooks*

i really need to read more romance trash

*takes notes from readers comments here*
xx

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