Are Squares Our Mutant Super-Powers?

Are Squares Our Mutant Super-Powers

Dear Mystic,
I feel like squares must be our mutant powers. My superpower is Neptune square Venus. I can spin anything into a love affair out of nothing. So far this has only caused me endless heartbreak in every arena of my life – from misinterpreted casual encounters to outsized loyalty to employers to of course romantic relationships of all shapes and sizes. I can turn on the faucet of gooey XXL-love and live all day in a dreamlike state of this fantasized reality.

Problem is harnessing it for “good”. I search the internet all the time but people only ever talk about the dire consequences of this aspect. I’d love a whole site dedicated to its awesomeness. Nay, a whole site dedicated to squares and their role in the arcs of our lives! In the meantime I will settle for a post in response to this letter. I love you so much. Your squares must be the peak of Mount Amazing.

Yours,
12th-house-Venus-square- Neptune-in-the-3rd Woman

Lady, please. See The Upside Of Being A Love Zombie already. This HAS been covered. And Venus Square Neptune is the classic Love Zombie indicator. You may also be happy to know that i am doing a book – like Bitchcraft – about Love Zombies. I mean a genuinely ground-breaking Read of Awe. And Uranus is not even exact on my Mercury yet!

But yes – a thousand times – squares in your chart really ARE your mutant super-powers. Once conquered, they behave better than trines (the “easy” aspects in a chart) because (I guess) you are not taking them for granted? Or maybe it’s like some disgusting Game Of Thrones style syndrome, conquered squares are more loyal because you’ve shown them who is the boss bitch? I don’t know but it’s true that a difficult aspect can be transmuted, like lead to gold.

Ages ago we did a thing on here – in a D.I.Y. Astro post – where people found their top three closest aspects and acted like they were The Everything. It’s insightful. BTW the D.I.Y. Astro-Hacks Mp3 lessons will be back – i have to change the name though as there were people getting them and then complaining i did not provide any actual “hacking information.” I was thinking more in the vibe of Lifehacker lol. As in swift ways to understand or work with something.

Anyway, grab your top three square aspects – if you know your chart or you can get one off Astrodienst – and rather than looking at them as potential crap that could go down, see them as mutant super-powers. Venus-Neptune, once harnessed is a lover, friend, parent, carer – anything – of the most exquisite nuance and finesse.

And Ms 12th House Venus, thank you for the compliments! My main square is a funky Mars-Pluto-Uranus square the Nodes – i need to think on this. If it were a super-power, it would probably be a really distinct sense when eras were over or a swift smack-down if off-life-track.

So Astro-Fiends & Astro-Newbies alike, what is your main square and if it were to be turned into a mutant super-power, what would it look like?  You can also find your strongest square and then look for examples of people who have that same energy (eg: Venus and Neptune) in a really harmonious aspect, see what that looks like.

Thoughts?

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J

My closest square (it’s exact 0º) is the dreaded Venus-Saturn square. Aries Venus, Leo Saturn. If you know, you know. It ain’t easy.

Anyway, this aspect, Venus-Saturn, apparently is also a mutant super-power, here it’s called the “Tycoon Aspect.” Most of the top 10 richest people in the world have a close Venus-Saturn aspect, although only one of them has the square, as I do. And Yikes, he’s a jerk.

http://www.astro.com/loop/loop130501_e.htm

catfish moon
catfish moon

moon in leo in 12th exact square to mars in taurus in 9th…..ugh, sigh, weird.
saturn in cancer in 11th square jupiter in aries in 8th
sun in cancer in 11th square jupiter in aries in 8th.

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

This is interesting. I have always battled my Neptune-Venus-Jupiter T-square thing and struggled to understand how I can work with it. Neptune opp Jupe, then Venus in a 6/7-degree square to both. Venus is also opp my Asc by 1 degree – so that makes a big giant square, doesn’t it? *Pauses to look at chart w aspects to Asc/MC included* Holy fuq, yes it does! A thick red square Asc/Dsc, MC/IC. When I was a kid my ability to invent completely different realities got me through years of abusive and scary situations. As a grown-up it’s made me the… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

Mercury square Mars in Virgo. Wouldn’t ya know. Mars square Jupiter.
Mercury square Saturn.
Shall try and figure this out somehow sometime 🙂 It is certainly worth a look at.

Crisis? What Crisis
Crisis? What Crisis

Under the angles reading my Sun is square my Neptune. By sign however it is trine. I read both descriptions under Cafeastrology interps. The trine one was more correct tho some aspects of both were relevant.
My other major square Merc/Jup is square in angle and sign and descriptor very clear.
My Mars in Virgo has been workn 12 hr days- its how we use time off

Crisis? What Crisis
Crisis? What Crisis

What confuses me there, l suppose, is my Asc is trine my Neptune. My KatSun almost 28° & Neptune a@ 5°(4H) so that is square on angle and trine in sign but my KatAsc is 8° which is trine both angle n sign to ScorpNep.
When your Sun n Asc are the same it can be blurry how this bcomes manifest.
Why do angles seemingly trump signs?

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

It’s because it’s calculated according to the orb of conjunction. So with your KatSun at 28º, it’s probably calculating the next sign – Aries to be square your Neptune. Planets are always in motion – either moving together (indicated by the ‘A’ – next to the degree) or moving apart (indicated by ‘S’ which means, separating). For example my Neptune in Scorp 17º is in opposition to my Taurus 22º but that opposition won’t be exact until Neptune moves another 5º. So in the chart it reads: -5 A. And my moon in 7º Sadge is ‘7S’ square to my… Read more »

Crisis? What Crisis
Crisis? What Crisis

Yes (me being v much a novice at this level.) I knew what the various descriptors said of natal Sun trine Nep and it fitted perfectly to me (esp music) and finding that it is actually a square was confounding. Bcos my Sun and Asc are both Kat it is the reason l have confused myself. As l said my Asc IS trine my Nep. Frankly the descriptors of Sun and Asc are a bit confounding. Also having Sun1H and partly in Leo add Fire stuff to me. Ppl who know me not to cross me. I suppose l am… Read more »

tw:leo
tw:leo

my leo sun sq taurus mars is definitely the strongest, along with the sun sq pluto in scorp that makes it a t-square. it’s fuqing tough but it makes me a badass when i manage to conquer it.

Woden13
Woden13

I’ve got Venus(8thH) Square Mars(12thH), Uranus(6thH), Chiron(11thH); Mercury(6thH) Square Jupiter(9thH); Saturn(2ndH) Square Pluto(5thH). Any thoughts?

SuperVenus NeptuneSquare
SuperVenus NeptuneSquare

Thanks you for this: “That’s what squares are to me – the bits where you get hurt without being right or wrong, where you live with both the have and have not bit of existing. ”

I was the author of the letter to mystic above and comments like this (of which I see so many) are like responses straight from the center of the universe. I’m saving every bit of genius for repeated readings.

Venus Cazimi
Venus Cazimi

Whoa! My Jupiter (Aquarius) square Neptune (Scorpio) has a power of 45.45!
The next squares are
Sun (Aquarius) square Neptune (Scorpio) at 9.26
Venus (Aquarius) square Neptune (Scorpio) 8.57

Hadn’t ever explored that section of astro.com before, thanks! 🙂

DP
DP

I have no squares or oppositions (unless you count the Nodes). There is a 9 degree square between Mars and Pluto, but that is way out of orb for an effective aspect from what I have read.

I still have superpowers, though: Moon in Scorpio sextile Pluto and conjunct Neptune. For better or for worse. 😉

Rachel
Rachel

Maybe look into your asteroids? 🙂

Elodie
Elodie

Moon+Chiron in Taurus (7th house) square Venus+NN in Leo: The power to own, feed, and shine for the object of my adoration.

Venus+NN in Leo(9th house) square Mars+Uranus in Scorpio(1st house)= The power to know, create, and rebel against the established order.

jojobe
jojobe

I only have two: moon square saturn & venus square mars moon sq. saturn: ooooh. v. prominent in my life (taking care of sick/elderly parents, etc.) & current challenge. patient, stoic af. faithfull. help with this one? venus sq. mars: crazy-Love(is everything). passionate desire (love//hate) powering creativity. intense bedroom eyes w/ whoever I want, hyper-attuned to flavors of eros. I go full-force toward that sweet center & use the friction to grow. on an evolutionary level, akashic records reading has informed me (SO highly recommended!) that I’m learning how to be on my own in the world this lifetime, so… Read more »

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

I am sorry I am still a novice at this astrology placement gift.. but when we pull our chart for Astro.com is there an easy way of knowing the squares in our chart? At the bottom I see grid for all of the planets with symbols of squares and triangles… Is this where I will look to now what squares are for me?

I feel very similar to 12th House Venus Square Neptune in the 3rd with relationships. Hook, line and sunk I can be!! LOL!!

Thank you!!

Anonymous
Anonymous

yes, that’s where it is, The squares are indicated by an actual square in red, trines in blue etc.

Look down and across to see what planets intersect and form an aspect (square, trine, opposition etc)

DP
DP

Yes what Anonymous said, and also in the chart itself you can see it in the red lines that are three signs apart (as opposed to the red lines that are all the way across, those are oppositions).

Charley
Charley

Go to ‘Free Horoscopes’ and select ‘Personal Portrait’, scroll down to where it says ‘major aspects’ that will give you all your aspects under an 8 degree orb – e.g. the ones that are most important.

calypso
calypso

funny, I did that and they wrote up my Sun as 6th house with a note because it’s at the end of the 5th.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Charley, I could not find a site for “Free Horoscopes”.. I found “Free Horoscopes Astrology” but it didn’t have a Personal Portrait option. What do I do wrong?

Interested in this site now…

Thanks!

Charley
Charley

Sorry, I wasn’t being very clear, it’s a section on Astro.com!

hermes26
hermes26

Fascinating! Hubby has 12 squares! (explains a lot!) This is me:

Sun in Gemini (10th house) and
Moon in Sagittarius (4th house)

both square
Mars in Pisces (7th house)

Um. I’m seeing something about my parents in there? Ugh I don’t know.

But this one I think I can understand:

Pluto in Scorp (3rd house)
square
ascendant in Leo (1st house)
Superpower = Ability to somehow transform deep-seated self-loathing into the ability to stun audiences through spoken word confessional poetry whilst simultaneously coming off as slightly narcissistic / fabulous.

Sadge
Sadge

Yes, so eloquent, squares ARE our superpowers and it’s so good to see them that way.
I’ve got Pluto/Jupiter conjunct in 12 th square Saturn which for a long time I thought was a configuration sent to wreck my life, until I saw somewhere, that Pluto square Saturn especially (which seemed to send astrologers reaching for their lucky stars thanking the heavens they haven’t got THAT!) is like the furnace that turns your experience to gold. Bring on the alchemy I say!

Rachel
Rachel

My most exact square is Uranus (6th house Capricorn) and Moon (10th house Aries). Famous examples of the Uranus/Moon Square apparently include Oscar Wilde, Salvador Dali, Carl Jung, Deepak Chopra, and Robert De Niro. I always seem to avoid routine, and schedules are pretty much always subject to (often sudden) change. Even schedules I make myself. I always like the concept of being on “Indian time” when I took Native American Studies classes (ie. you are never late, always on time, where you are supposed to be, when you are supposed to be there–respect for all things as they are… Read more »

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen

I’m a heavy Neptune type too (Neptune conjunct moon) and I love your perspective on it. You’re right that vulnerability is strength.

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen

Oh this sounds fun! I’ve got: Saturn square Mars (1* orb) Saturn square Sun (4* orb) Uranus square Mercury (VERY tight – 0* orb) also AC square Jupiter (1* orb) My Mars and Sun are conjunct in Virgo, and Saturn is in Sagg. I’m trying to see an upside to having Saturn squaring my Sun and Mars but I’m not really seeing it. I feel these are my most difficult aspects. I think it has made me a late bloomer, full of self-doubt, often feeling ‘stuck’, etc. It’s like I have to work twice as hard to figure out who… Read more »

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Ooooh. Super Powers! With a bunch of friends one particularly dull night out, we decided to assign each of us a super power… Mine was the ability to control the elements and conjure a maxi-taxi when required… Anyway, that aside… I love this as a way of looking at squares. I’m mostly trines and sextiles, so tis good to put the squares in a slightly sexier light… I have… Venus-square-Uranus… The power to bust gender conventions and relationship norms with a single glance? Mars-square-Neptune… Well, we all know I have the power to drink anyone under the table, still stand… Read more »

harmony
harmony

great summation of your powers 🙂

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Now I really want to do them..! Like really… Snap the fingers and see bridges burst into flames… Oh that Mars-Neptune again….

Ms..
Ms..

venus square uranus is the sexy queer trickster for sure. and you have mars neptune! with pluto square sun, this is all very sexy and rough trade devil may care. James Dean in lipstick.

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

I can only hope so! But that Mars is in Virgo, babe… just as long as the lipstick is the ‘perfect’ shade… xx

GFTpisces
GFTpisces

My moon is exact square the Nodes — definitely need to think on this. Other than that, my next closest square (a 2, so still plenty tight) is Saturn squaring my Sun and Merc. I think old school astro seems to think this indicates like trouble with a father figure (the Saturn square Sun), but that doesn’t apply — super chill, go with the flow Virgo dad. I’d say this translates into a mutant power of being able to really advocate for myself and not be afraid to do it when I have to. I worked through a lot of… Read more »

leoliza
leoliza

12H Leo Sun conj ASC square my loverly 4th Scorpio neptune conj moon….hmm super power : Woman Power….I think i’ve idealized the men in my life….as I get older though i realize women are the powerful ones in relationships, holding families together, nurturing, intuitively ‘knowing’ and strong!

my parents divorced when i was 11…my mom somehow held it all together, moved us north, took care of her parents…raised us …..she did it

Sasha
Sasha

Hi, I have mars square pluto in my chart. Mutant super power would be a ninja or fighting as a super power. I have a libra sun and moon in pisces. Mars and Jupiter in cancer and virgo in venus and mercury. Mars square pluto is a powerful aspect in my chart. I seem to attract violence and had some very destructive relationships with men with a scorpio moon and aries sun he was Sicilian and died of cancer (life and death) pluto. Mars square pluto gives me a scorpionic approach towards relationships. I am transforming this mars square pluto… Read more »

krissy
krissy

I have Moon conjunct Pluto (Libra, 5th house) square Saturn (Cancer, 1st house). This has been a very difficult aspect to live with because I’m emotionally intense but then suppress it to not drive others batty with my rants and antics. Then, people wonder if I have any emotions because I have such a cap on them. The mutant superpower I have for this? It’s hard to say. Maybe an emotional hardiness that when most people blanch, I keep pulling through. If anyone else has a similar aspect, I’d love to hear any comments!

pi.
pi.

Hi Pisces Sun & mercury square Gemini ascendant, sadge desc, exact: reconciling Identity vs how I seem to others..I think. Ensuring I am seen clearly or convey who I am clearly? Capricorn moon square Aries Venus, 4degrees off: Cap moon would let me be a stripper if it was discreet, anonymous and no sleazebags lol oh also paid a lot So I guess marrying the exhibitionist/try anything once Venus with “only if it benefits you in the long run” cap.. Aquarius mars sq Taurus Jupiter/lilith , exact: Still haven’t figured this one out. Other writers say it can make one… Read more »

aquasunbird
aquasunbird

Aquarius mars = innovative original unconventional actions, regarding resources, creation, art, music, sensual abundance = Taurus Jupiter. Perhaps a challenge to balance or do to be edgy, group minded, egalitarian and experience or aquire traditional means of comfort, beauty, material wealth…But would be contingent to rest of aspects, transits, house?

pi
pi

Hello lovely sunbird!
Some interesting words to think about.. thank you.
Yes it would be related to resources and Other People, 11th house toro
Hmm

aquasunbird
aquasunbird

I meant to add, that if you use the square positively you take any perverse, unusual edgy or eccentric ways of doing things to actually gain abundance, expansiveness from arts, material endeavours… To remove odd blocks, make them part of the aesthetic scheme! So any contrary whims (group inspired with social principle) need not preclude comfort, financial security, instead it IS what will help triumph or bankroll a successful investment, venture…Critically you have to look at saturn…To know how the long term implementation is likely. Speaking from super sun vesta conjunct aquarius 6th house perspective…Uranus conjunct pluto 1st quincunx that…… Read more »

aquasunbird
aquasunbird

Loathing surreptitious retrograde neptune…Incidentally anyone else who cares to deplore the retrospective insights yielding miserable truths… Denial, escapism is hard when the ascendant is mirrored backwards, back to front, upside down and inside out…opposite the conjunct virgo jupiter 12th to asc…conjunct natal pisces mercury & fixed star formalhaut, but grand trine to scorpio ceres 2nd, cancer moon, 10th…Wishes, dreams, do they ever deliver us from our physical condition? Too much time attending hospitals, doctors, jupiter leo lillith 12th, square saturn scorpio 3rd (is a T-square to square to my vesta & sun, but moving away now thank goodness)…Miserly saturn, heading… Read more »

Streghetta
Streghetta

Natal squares: True Node (2nd house, Sag) is square with Mars (10th house, Virgo) and Jupiter (4th house, Pisces). “Battle of Wills” and attachment issues are the first things that came to mind. ;-/

akapluto
akapluto

Never realized till this post that my tightest square is my Taurus true node (H7) square my Leo MC at zero degrees. Right off hand that might be why I’ve always believed that I won’t find true love until I find a career. And why all of my attempts at partnership seem to fail because we aren’t headed in the same direction. We’ll have to stay tuned to how that may turn into a super power…perhaps I will find the most epic business partner/lover in the future. After that is my moon (libra H11) square neptune (sagg H2). This I… Read more »

Ms..
Ms..

Amazing post. I have no time to proper research this but I love it. My chart is almost a small piece of pie so I have mainly conjunctions, squares and sextiles. I heard this (square powers) from an astrologer years ago who did my chart that said my Mars squares would become assets post 30 and a bitch before then. Hopefully the rest as well. Haven’t done a square check of late so its a great post topic and I agree with Ms 12th house venus-neptune, lets turn the shit to gold alchemy style no? Top 3 (4 given conjunction… Read more »

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Saturn square Ascendant… The power to sober a situation with your mere presence?? (Actually, that sounds kinda bad, how about…) The power to inspire people to better themselves?

Jupiter square Sag Moon – the power to create a comfortable inviting home environment anywhere in the world, at any time, in the blink of an eye?
The power to nurture from afar?

Sun square Mars (in Virgo!!) – the power to self correct at warp speed…? The self-correction is so swift it is unnoticeable to the naked eye. An inner guilt database is maintained to ensure such a mistake will never happen again.

Ms..
Ms..

LEX! darling, its been too long xx Yes, I have the killer saturn square asc, exact no less… Its like being born auto asphyxiated and every now and then they slack the rope a touch. My asc is in a grand trine with pluto and eros, (pan rising) saturn in the 3rd. I imagine its super power to be something of a mistress or homage to exacting expression and communication. Do not blink in a crisis. Take a sober view Jupe and moon, well yes, the suitcase is my home and the road is nurturing and something of a mother… Read more »

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Ah ha! I love these interps!
Do… Not… Blink…
That is soooo the logline for the Saturn-sq-Asc feature film. Which is part road trip part time travel saga, i reckon.
Hope the seeking tomorrow goes wonderfully well, be brave, brazen and a bit bats. Oh, and yeah, never ever settle for less than your demands… and then demand some more…! xx

Ms..
Ms..

you totally get it Lex. This is all about shaking off the shit and not settling. I’m no ones bitch but my own. I just want my balls back but I gotta do some weeding first. Saturn has the larger game plan on watch while I make way for the future.

Best to you too babes xxx

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Are you sure you don’t have that Venus-Uranus square too?? I always put it down to that… I will never be wedded to anything more than my endless distraction with WHAT’S NEXT?!
Maybe it is all Saturn and Pluto on our arses…?
Thinking of you, sending amazing vibe. Enjoy Paris my dear, if the Chagall exhibition is still going – go see it!! xx

Ms..
Ms..

uranus conjunct sun in scorpio/ venus and moon in sagittarius. I blame.

will do, Ive got a hot list of galleries and itinerary refinement happening now.

xoxoxoxxoxoxooxx

Ms..
Ms..

and thank you, I am sure you are killing it where you are too xx

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Killing IT more than myself, which is the general aim 🙂

I look forward to reading your travel stories!! xx

Ms..
Ms..

Yes inner guilt database for sure. that excel sheet has a long memory. self correcting yes.

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

I was going to crap on about Venus sq Neptune but NO. It is only my 3rd strongest aspect: if we go by tight orb AND pullen: jupiter sq pluto is my strongest. Guru god cockblocked by God of regeneration & destiny. jupiter is supposed to be my chart ruler. Maybe that’s why i get no blessings from him. if we go by tight orb, my next tightest is MC sq Saturn in 7th. and wow is this ever true. I get humiliated for my job by boyfriends. Or there is a conflict between my job and my partner in… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Neptune-Vesta-True Node in Sagg/9th square Jupiter-AC in Pisces.

Chiron in Aries/1st square Saturn in Kataka/5th.

Persephone in Virgo/6th square Sagg biz above.

Mutant super power: can hardboil eggs with my mind.

Crisis? What Crisis
Crisis? What Crisis

What about semi-sextiles and quincunxs? They dont get as much airtime.

squareaplooza
squareaplooza

Hell yeah … my chart reads like a square cluster-fuq Pluto, Mars, Jupiter, sun, moon, venus, neptune, merc. – on a full moon eclipse with Saturn rising in leo My fave is Nep square Mercury – it pretty much manifests as being late and random for everything – always getting busted by friends, employers and lovers – I used to make a million little excuses about why I was late. BUT about 5 years ago I stared being really straight up, honest and owing my own shiz eg. ” I’m late because I took heaps of time getting ready and… Read more »

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

have you tried dating someone a little older or younger?

Ms..
Ms..

I have neptune exact conjunct venus and I have the same thing with my generations neptune to conjunct my venus synastry. Any later it exacts my DSC and earlier conjuncts my moon. Born dealing neptune hearts. But fuck does it woo people, usually nut cases chasing impossible manifestations of love (I have major saturn grounding thank god but that is the ticket/gateway to neptune, saturn) its all in my 6th so its gotta be for work (not sure if I’d give neptune my admin…) but work a saturn plan around it. Neptune square mercury? you should try being a magician… Read more »

moonstark
moonstark

sweet. feelin’ this comment. thanks for sharing.

Veronica
Veronica

Like MM, I have the Mars Pluto Uranus square the nodes as they are tightly conjunct. 14 Pluto Virgo in 12th house exact square NN in 14 Gemini in 9th Also that Pluto exact opposition to 13 Saturn in 6th house. So Saturn exact square my NN too. (A bit confused, an opposition is different in quality from a square, isn’t it? Even though they are all mutables in this case) Seeing as they are in the 12th/9th/6th…I dunno really. Feel like my square superpowers are derived from the plutonic unconscious as a lot of energy coming from my 12th… Read more »

Veronica
Veronica

Speaking of squares! The icon next to my name seems to be a blank square?

MiloBloom
MiloBloom

I have an almost exact Mars-Venus square (Leo-Scorp, respectively). In my experience, this has led me to perform really inappropriate romantic/sexual gestures, i.e., “too much, too soon.” I’ve heard the Mars-Venus square described as “all vibe, no action.” I unintentionally suck (unwanted) men into my orbit and they tend to … obsess over me. Not to the point of stalking, but it has made me uncomfortable in the past. (Both Jodie Foster and Hillary Clinton have the same square, in the same signs.) The potential superpower of the Mars-Venus square is (imo) MAGNETISM. This is is awesome for those of… Read more »

akapluto
akapluto

My best friend has venus square mars (Aqua to scorp) and she definitely does a “too much too soon” thing…like gets super motivated and energized about someone and it often gets too intense for one person or the other. Her Mars being in the 7th doesn’t help. But I think venus square mars can make someone a true master of their allure, as my bff tends to get hotter every year!

Ms..
Ms..

I was going to say that would be a very powerful and magnetic combo given the signs the square is in as well. I find Mars needs to be, um, walked with certain aspects to not get pent up and give it something cool to play with. Like a big dog in a small flat. Stage is good yes.

Sphinx
Sphinx

Saturn (Can) Square (Lib) Pluto Called the “Status Quo vs. Regeneration challenge”. I am all Pluto Persephone girl as my Moon is in Scorp. Deep cyclic regeneration is my thing – but it’s always been versus The Powers That Be (& want to remain Being) within. I rebelled for a loooong time, until I realised my rebellion was a way of avoiding myself, just like those others who didn’t believe in me did. My efforts externally mightn’t show it (yet) but I am certain my mutant superpower will flower and it will be this: The ability to mould Reality via… Read more »

Jana
Jana

Neptune (7th house) square MC which is in 12th house)
Saturn square Neptune(Neptune’s in 7th)
Mars square ascendant (Gemini )
Jupiter square ascendant (Gemini)
Jupiter sqauare Uranus.

I have no idea what superhero I’d be.

Maleficent
Maleficent

My whole chart is like a big, fat T square. I think that’s what makes me so cool and uniquely beautiful. I’m also incredibly modest, clearly 🙂 Ja but seriously (snickers) I DO think that struggling with any form of resistance makes you stronger. Forgive me yet another tedious weight lifting analogy but you know, The War Of Art, the Resistance, The Iron, squares in charts, they all kind of fall into the same category IMO. It’s like that beautiful Nick Cave quote about being a late developer or ugly ducklings (like me) who grow up to become gorgeous and… Read more »

poppykettle
poppykettle

Hip to be Square! haha, I like that 🙂 Well put!

If
If

Lol, the square peg thing…. Me too Malef, except that I am neither beautiful nor cool, and my whole chart (apart from my Moon, thank fuq) is caught up in TWO big T-squares in which my Sun and Venus are the respective meat in the two sandwiches: 1st house Sun/Merc square Pluto/Uranus on MC opp Jup/Chiron on IC, and Venus-Nept on Asc square Mars opp Saturn. So I don’t fit anywhere, and can never quite manage the instrinsic conflicts. God – even if one T-square seems to be accomodating or blending the energies of its planets, the other one is… Read more »

Maleficent
Maleficent

If, you ARE BEAUTIFUL AND COOL.
I read your comments and you are stunning.
Thanks Ms and Poppykettle xxx

Anonymous
Anonymous

Thanks hon. Mars on my Sun exact today, square natal pluto in 10th today, with Neptune in Pisces opposing MC. At an interview for a job I really want, and have been doing for months, I fell today, on the question that of all applicants, I should have been best able to answer with a ball and gag in my mouth, since I’ve just written a few thousand words about solutions to the particular issue I was asked about. Total brain snap. Low blood sugar I think, because i was too stressed to eat enough breakfast to last the distance,… Read more »

calypso
calypso

aw, sorry to hear you had a tough day, you know I always love your vibe too xx

Ms..
Ms..

beautiful.

my mother always told me the ugly duckling was my story.
I was mortified at the time then I grew up and realised it was a metaphor for his homosexuality. I think squares are like a coming out or same level brutal teen stuck in a stupid redneck town transition before it takes its folio to new york kind of thing.

Maleficent
Maleficent

YES! Indeed! Agree re squares being similar to the process of having to come on as gay in a world which rejects the different ones. I believe this is why I’m a fag hag. There is something about coming out that forces strength of character to develop in ways most heterosexuals simply never have to think about. For this reason most gay relationships I know put the heterosexual ones to shame re issues like jealousy and presenting a united front no matter what. There seems to be so much more compassion and tolerance. At least among my friends there is.… Read more »

poppykettle
poppykettle

I’ve got quite a few squares – Sun and Mercury are both square Neptune. To me, the lower form of those two is that my imagination can get in the way of logical thinking, I’m somewhat absentminded and a tendancy towards mental escapism. Also – big time inferiority complex, and the feeling I must constantly be defend my ideals and objectives. Funny, I had thought of squares in relationships as being something amazing once you’ve conquered it, but I hadn’t yet translated that into being also applicable internally. I think I’ve unconsciously mastered the inferiority complex – I channel it… Read more »

gemini cat
gemini cat

I like to disappear into imagination too, and I don’t want to stop ;-). From what I’ve read, you’re supposed to channel that imagination into creativity like storytelling, poetry, music, etc.

calypso
calypso

I have an 8H Cap Mars squaring a 5H Jupe/Merc conjunction. I can think of lots of ways in which this could pose difficulties….bluntness in communication, not being able to express my desires, vision/intellect without the drive to implement, just to name a few!

Besides the prospect of just recognising these and turning them around, which poses the question of how but I’m sure that would be worth some focused attention, I would love it if other astro minds looked at this and saw something great 🙂

gemini cat
gemini cat

Are Jupiter and Mercury in Libra? Mars square Mercury can be argumentative, but you can transform that into civilized debate with practice. Draw upon Libran diplomacy, Jupiter generosity/good will, and Cap discipline for guidance.

calypso
calypso

o yeah, sorry. Libra 5th house! I have been accused of argumentativeness in the past and that’s something I’ve really been working on the last few years. Thanks for your ideas 🙂

calypso
calypso

maybe I could be a motivational speaker if I could just keep the sarcastic bitch in check 😉

Anonymous
Anonymous

1Sun-Mars in 10th house Libra square Jupiter in 7th house

Anonymous
Anonymous

Fuck, that was me above being a butterfingers.

10th house Sun-Mars in Libra square 7th house Jupiter in Cancer + 1st house Neptune in Capricorn

10th house Mars in Libra square 1st house Saturn in Capricorn

2nd house Moon in Aquarius square 11th house Pluto in Scorpio

Any guidance on what my positive superpower would be? Because I already know I’m good at starting, but no finishing ambitious

Anonymous
Anonymous

…projects.

(Yes, I double butterfingered. Not used to commenting on a smart phone)

Anonymous
Anonymous

And 10th house Mercury in Virgo square 1st house Uranus in Capricorn.

I know I don’t have to list all the squares, but how do you interpret what would be a “Top 3” square?

gemini cat
gemini cat

In your astrodienst chart, the symbol grid at bottom right shows the aspects with a number telling the orb of influence (degrees away from exact). That’s the easiest way.

hdq
hdq

Saturn sq Uranus by 5, Saturn sq Venus Mars Chiron moon by 7-9. Eros sq Pluto by 5. Juno sq Saturn by 3. Karma sq nodes by 6. I’m stretching. Have superpowers but the squares aren’t it!

hdq
hdq

Ah, insight into the libra NN. Da partna brings the squares! Always! Ha cool.

davidl
davidl

Jupiter in sag 6th square Pluto in Virgo 3rd. Exact.
Superpower I’d like to turn it into would be some type of instant healing tool. Hypodermic like .
“Hold still it will hurt less if you don’t jiggle around”

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

I have this too as my tightest and strongest square. I had no idea. Your idea is truer than you know for me, as it occurs in the 10th and 2nd houses.
Some websites call it “false prophet” and seems very negative re: clash between destiny and guru side.

davidl
davidl

Hmmm, I read the article. Maybe they are wrong and we are right. Hehe. If I take what they are saying and twist it to my liking 🙂 , we have 2 choices, admit we are deluded and get down on ourselves, which risks destroying our inner core, or, start a global cult of faith and healing based solely on our delusion and be adored by millions of similarly deluded followers.
With my sun in Aries 10th and Uranus Leo in the 2nd and your Jupiter and Pluto we may come up with an extremely plausible delusion.

davidl
davidl

And by the way I tried the first choice and it wasn’t great.

Ms..
Ms..

lol..

K-Gem
K-Gem

My three closest squares are
Sun in 4th Square Pluto in 8th
Neptune in 10th Square Ascendant
Ascendant square Jupiter in 4th

Mutating this lot is a Life’s Work but the squares to the Ascendant have a theme of not believing in myself or my abilities. Changing this aspect of my personality so that I have a realistic view of my abilities would be profound. I do, however, have a deep sense of justice when I see injustice towards others, large and small. That can be harnessed.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Sun square Uranus – love hate relationship with my own uniqueness and individuality. Resistant to structure and authority imposed from the “outside”. Highly creative and intuitive when recognise the need to conform to some degree and at least some of the time in order to serve a higher purpose. Yep. Venus square Pluto – intense feelings, strong manipulative tendancies, desire to control the other (relationship wise) and very demanding of authenticity of feeling and interaction. Need to develop own sense of self worth independant of partner. Yep. Moon square Pluto – as above, intensity of feeling but with an outer… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

I would add that I have spent a lot of time in the past few years working on the first aspect – Sun square Uranus. Finding a higher purpose to serve in order to tame that rowdy noncomformist who won’t follow your goddam rules has been a challenge. It’s basically been an exercise in maturing the ego so that it is more balanced and able to function within a structure without causing me needless angst … has taken AGES. Now starting to bear fruit. The Pluto aspects?? Bahhhhhhhh … only really just started. Perhaps released a lot of resentment inherent… Read more »

Linda
Linda

What do you mean by healing energy “that gets channelled” through the Pluto energy? I also have a venus pluto square and can relate to what you said. Actually I have moon, venus and mercury closely conjunct in Gem square my Mars/Pluto conjunction. I attract controlling men and jealous women despite all my efforts to avoid these types of relationships.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Hey Linda With the last point you mentioned, are you familiar with the concept that we attract people into our orbit who act as mirrors for our own repressed and unconscious material? If so then you will understand the notion that to harmonise these aspects we have to work on the self. We can’t change the outer world – can’t stop men being controlling and women being jealous. We can’t stop being attracted to them if they mirror something within us. But we can work on the self to loosen up the attraction, come into balance and alter our patterns… Read more »

gemini cat
gemini cat

That’s wonderful you can use your Pluto energy for something constructive to help others. I have Pluto square Venus in Kataka 7th house, and that was first triggered as a teenager — power and control, obsession, jealousy, intensity. It was too much for me to take and I disapproved of it. Now if it crops up, I try to smooth the feelings out by drawing on a Venus-Jupiter conjunction and Venus-Uranus trine (generosity and unconventionality). Although I avoid relationships, the square still affects me with self-hatred over my worth as a potential partner and the value of my creativity. What… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

With Pluto you’re almost always looking at the unconscious mind so thought or behavioural based stuff doesn’t tend to work. Psychoanalytic approaches work better for that … making connections to and releasing unconscious beliefs, traumas etc.

gemini cat
gemini cat

I think I know what the origins are (in family triangle issues plus my mother had the same problems tenfold). But that’s just at an intellectual level — it doesn’t sink in emotionally.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I have Venus in cap square Pluto in libra as well as venus square Saturn in libra . Anyway I emailed mystic about it and she also has the Venus Pluto square . She said its kind of like having a Ferrari parked in your garage it’s not designed for a quick trip to the supermarket . It’s intense / special ..think Liz Taylor she had it . But to be honest it has caused me a lot of pain in my life / sexual issues etc …the last year I have been channelling it through my art .. Bondage… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Yep I hear you – dark, intense, can be obsessive and the pain ooh the pain. Mine’s more like a Humvee than a Ferrari 😉

Fauness
Fauness

I have sun square uranus too and I completely relate. I think there needs to be people who can balance following certain standards while having an active inner life and social life. I believe we can teach others how to balance it successfully.

Fauness
Fauness

As in creativity, nonconformity, anti-status quo shite.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

haha yeah the anti status quo shite is quite a wild and wilful energy. Has it’s place in the bigger picture for sure. Somebody’s gotta rock the boat from time to time. But I’ve always harboured fantasies of being a quiet sheeple. ho hum

Fauness
Fauness

Wild for sure. I was brought up in a strict religious household, so I like to keep face while being a total weirdo in my head and with my social life. I also have sun square chiron, so that’s where I think others come into it.

aquasunbird
aquasunbird

Oh well, try having uranus conjunct pluto (1st) OPPOSITE mars (7th) quincunx Sun in AQUARIUS conjunct vesta (6th)!

Fauness
Fauness

dude, I had to read that like 3 times for it to sink in

aquasunbird
aquasunbird

Oh Dear dear dear…I know this is supposed to be about adoring the challenge but I despise the perpetual test, the squares, the semi squares, the oppositions, quincunxes…Exhausting…I have the dreaded bucket / multi-kite chart thing, and my life is continuous chaos…Change, change and more change…. Inherent in all of us, ultimately I do believe you can, and it is our right to change anything, any part of ourselves, situations, values, opinions, anytime, in a second, but this is not easy going – there are repercussions… Especially where there is so much uranus AND a gemini midheaven WITH jupiter conjunct… Read more »

GFTpisces
GFTpisces

Yeah, this is so interesting to hear you talk about the square energy with your Sun and Uranus! I have Uranus as part of a Grand Fire trine with my (Leo) Asc and my (Aries) Mars-Venus-Lilith, so I’ve always had no trouble with letting my freak flag fly and been totally in harmony with being a bit bold and sassy and a loudmouth, but I can naturally do it in a charming way. Where I have trouble is, with my (Aqua) moon opposing my Asc, it’s like sometimes I get down or agitated or annoyed when people don’t take me… Read more »

Fauness
Fauness

I have leo sun in the ninth square tauro Chiron in the 7th. Um, recognizing and embracing others’ inner wounds? I am really drawn to interesting people with sometimes tragic back stories.

I also have sun square my scorp uranus ascendant.

moonstark
moonstark

dear god, so many hardcore squares in my chart! with the upside in mind…

top 3:

sun square pluto: can’t be fuqed with because own worst enemy. high energy/drive. needs a larger than life stage or else will potentially self-destruct. master it and rule.

moon square neptune & lilith: supercharged housewitchery; moon ritual, reiki and vibrational remedies do wonders. instant daydreaming powers. siren quality.

saturn square ascendant: extremely professional, stoic and inscrutable in every day affairs. relieved of extended small talk because of apparent business-only vibe.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Ha, brilliant interps Moonstruck! I’m Moon square Neptune & Lilith too – good to know the possible transmutation… I think Moon Sq Neptune is another potential LZ aspect

akapluto
akapluto

moon square neptune is DEFO LOVE ZOMBIE. You’re talking to a pro.

moonstark
moonstark

oh yes, definitely LZ… romantic fantasies are like emotional food for moon sq neptune.

Fauness
Fauness

I have neptune conjunct moon and I’m total LZ as well. I can daydream like a champ.

imnotatroll
imnotatroll

damnit, haha. I literally have no trines in my chart. Just a buncha squares and conjunctions (no oppositions either). Got Moon/Uranus/Jupiter in Aqua square my Sun/Chiron in Scorp. Not sure what that would mean. ??? Power of insanity??? Also got Saturn sq. Ascendant, Venus/Mars sq. MC. Also have a lot of semisquares + inconjuncts. Not sure if they’re similar to squares in that energy.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Pluto in Virgo 7th square Sun in Gem 3rd and MC in Sag. Self-undoing Pisces rising is cooked to the perfection.

When harnessed, I roll down with every punch; like a cat, I fall, land on my feet and lick my paws.

ps: How is kitty Mystic?

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

ps: duh. meant to write, your kitty with Saturn return.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I have mars square pluto aspect in my chart and mars in cancer. As a mutant power mars square pluto would be a ninja or have powers in fighting.It seems to be a powerful aspect in my chart. I have a pisces moon which helps. Hard aspects of mars square pluto is wrathful when angry. Can be transformed when channelled into healing. In relationships men sometimes try to dominate me and then end up humilated or in submissive role towards the end. I have attracted violence with this aspect and seem to be scorpionic in relationships. I have venus and… Read more »

david5379
david5379

Sun square moon, exact, between pisces and gemini, its as confusing as it sounds. Oof.
Also got neptune uranus exact conjuct square venus, that’s probably a doozy, I think it gives me awesome taste in movies/tv at least.

WaterGem
WaterGem

I have same square David. My sun Gem square moon Pisces. Don’t have many answers re superpowers yet (and I’ve been on the planet with this chart for a lot longer than you’ve been here with yours!) I’m guessing it’s something to do with mutability and duality. My current approach is to work with the commonalities and hold them in place by uniting the elemental differences. Eg a commonality of Gem/Pisces is story making, story loving etc. This can be done the air way (conceptually) or the water way (emotionally) and/ or both. It seems to me that when it… Read more »

david5379
david5379

i have it flipped, pisc sun gem moon, for me the difference is between this need to be multiple things and the need to just be all things and chill the fuck out, so on one end I want to do it all and learn tons of things, and on the other I have this thing that just makes me zone out and need a lot of rest and in-between time

david5379
david5379

also got a pretty close saturn pluto square, that and the venus one already mentioned are both just 2 degrees off, this one I consider a superpower, I got tons and tons of inner work done of sheer grit

Anonymous
Anonymous

I think I see what you mean – is interesting to hear your take from the flipped side. I relate to the be multiple vs be all issue and the outcomes you describe. Seems to me the society we live in adds to the problem by making it a vs issue or maybe I see it that way because of the square. Maybe the superpower could emerge from being multiple and one/all at the same time. Like the ancient metaphor that we are all droplets forming an ocean and that we can be aware of both states. One super power… Read more »

WaterGem
WaterGem

Sorry – forgot to sign in.

david5379
david5379

actually I can see that, the very best info just magically gets to me somehow, as far as my field of interests go I am pretty info super powered

Roaring-scorp
Roaring-scorp

Dam..wish I understood more of this..I have my chart, but how the hell do u work out your square?? I just recently met a man on the last dark moon, and he’s fucked up already..so will go absolute no further..but I have the LZ bug, hits me to easy, and fantasise continually..the last man I fell madly in love with was total LZ sickness..That’s why I don’t hold stock to the law of attraction.. My vision board was huge.. My mind and thoughts even huger..and jack shit ever happens..this fella I met last dark moon has really shook me up… Read more »

Charley
Charley

I think how much you believe in it depends on WHAT you want from it. If you expect astrology to give you all the answers or to use it as some kind of prediction tool then that’s complicated and likely disappointing. As a tool for self understanding and understanding relationships with others I think it can be truly amazing and very helpful. There is no ‘proof’ other than what you can find for yourself and if it’s useful for you personally then that should be all you need. As for squares, put your details into Astro.com, go to the free… Read more »

gemini cat
gemini cat

Mercury in Taurus 5th house square Mars in Leo 8th (>1 orb). Superpower for debate in creativity matters? But I need a Taurus amount of time to work out my points in writing (also square Saturn in Leo 8th with 1+ orb).

ASC in Cap square Nodes/Moon in Aries 3rd (>1 orb). This is so fuqed up, I don’t know what the superpower could be. Maybe being able to tell the future and figure out mysteries of the past? I studied history and sort of loved the challenge of research and writing.

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