Jung At Heart

Killian Eng

Subscribers will soon notice the ramping up of Mars-Neptune square alerts – don’t worry, if you don’t know the drill, you will be reminded. Stand by.

But i just want to also share an example of Super-Haute Neptune, as it’s all too easy to dwell on the lying, grifting, addict-delusion-zombie end of the Neptune spectrum.

Also, given that we are all going to be – ready or not – doing Neptune these next few weeks, this would be a good guy to make the acquaintance of or even re-read. Robert A Johnson is an amazingly cool Gemini Jungian scholars, probably the most accessible of all the Jung writers out there. He’s definitely soothing and inspirational to read.

He writes about relationships, reclaiming your shadow self, the essential masculine/feminine principles, anima/animus – the Everything.Β  The bulk of his books are here on his Amazon page but i am currently reading Inner Work, it is sensational.

“The unconscious manifests itself through a language of symbols. It is not only in our involuntary or compulsive behaviour that we can see the unconscious. It has two natural pathways for bridging the gap and speaking to the conscious mind. One is by dreams – the other is by imagination. Both of these are highly refined channels of communication that the psyche has developed so that the unconscious and conscious levels may speak to one another and work together.

 

The unconscious has developed a special language to use in dreams and imagination; it is the language of symbolism. As we will see, inner work is primarily the art of learning this symbolic language of the unconscious…To get a more true sense of who we are, become more complete and integrated human beings, we must go to the unconscious and set up communication with it. Much of ourselves and many determinants of our character are contained in the unconscious. It is only by approacing it that we have a chance to become conscious, complete, whole human beings.

 

Jung has shown that by approaching the unconscious and learning its symbolic language, we live richer and fuller lives. We begin to live in partnership with the unconscious, rather than at is mercy or in constant warfare with it…

 

The purpose of learning to work with the unconscious is not just to resolve our conflicts or deal with our neuroses. We find there a deep source of renewal, growth, strength and wisdom. We connect with the source of our evolving character, we cooperate with the process whereby we bring the total self together. We learn to tap that rich lode of energy and intelligence that waits within.”

 

Okay so Mr Johnson was born May 26 1921 and yes, he is still alive, happening and writing. He is Sun-Mars-Mercury in Gemini and has Neptune in Leo sextile his Mars. So voila, a haute Mars-Neptune man as well. Moon in Capricorn and Saturn-Jupiter in Virgo opposite Uranus in Pisces.

So if you’re thinking god do i have to meditate and “be good” the whole time Mars is squaring Neptune, the answer is no. You can Jung out and do some inner work. Remember, your dreams know when you are taking note of them and become more lucid. Like performers with an audience who is appreciating them.

 

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Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Did I miss the Daily Mystic for Tuesday?

lux interior is My Co-Pilot
lux interior is My Co-Pilot

would comment more but caring for relative in area with wifi issues…believe me I’m reading and taking note!!! Awesome stuff…

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

What is “be good”? I don’t even know what that means. “Be true” to your unconscious self, authentically do You, and synthesis occurs between all facets of your being, those lodes of energy & intelligent potential unleashed. Prerequisite: find unconscious you, put your 8th house on the job. Johnson is good. He war, he war (Cat Power): My animus is pleased.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I’ve found that a physical , free-from-self-judgement creative or otherwise expressive practice is often good too, if someone works better in a visual or spatial /sound realm. Art seems perfect for investigating the taboos we put on ourselves or others, and if you search well, you will find many forms that rip the lid off fears or assumptions, for greater ownership . But diy actions seem to where the Jung stuff is

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

yes, so true.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Oh most definitely: art is the everything, whatever your medium. Even if you’re not an “artist” per se, or don’t think you’re a creative type. Creating bridges that gap between un- & conscious. Jung often asked his patients to draw/doodle/whatever what they remembered from their dreams, mandalas, shapes in their heads, etc. Just free form, free associate– just make it real, tangible, in some way. Aha’s follow. Consciousness blooms.

DP
DP

Well, in the context of Neptune, I can tell you what not being good means:

Going out before dinner and having too much whiskey, coming home, and not remembering anything after that; however when you awoke, you found you’d made an elaborate dinner (and cleaned up), taken a midnight bike ride to pick the neighbors’ flowers, bought and smoked a whole pack of cigarettes (after you’d quit), and watched half a season of Last Tango in Halifax.

I believe that’s what Mystic meant by “being good”: don’t do the above. :-/

Fauness
Fauness

Oh! 8th house talk. Always perks me up, mainly because it always seems to be so elusive. Always. I have mars, venus, jupiter, and lilith in gem in my 8th. I also have scorp rising. Any go-to 8th house insights?

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

I have a particular zoo dream that happens every so often. Same zoo, but not a zoo that actually exists … always wondered what that zoo is about.

skarab
skarab

Maybe it’s a cyber zoo….could even be The Mystic Medusa astrology blog?….there’s fish, centaurs, crabs, scorpions, lions, sea-goats, rams… πŸ˜‰

sweetpea
sweetpea

Well, know that when we all had that scuffle some time back Libran Rock Star Publicist called some of us “Barnyard Biffs”.

That hurt….

πŸ˜†

sweetpea
sweetpea

I don’t know Prowls….with all these men popping in sounds like “variety” to me πŸ™‚

K-Gem
K-Gem

I’m currently recovering from my surgery for lymphoedema – 6.5 litres of fat less in my right leg (left leg is normal) and my dreams have been vivid but revisiting people and scenes from the past 17 years since I was first diagnosed. Haven’t had much pain and as I had adverse reactions to the opiate based pain killers, am now only on intermittent pain relief. To give you a flavour of what’s going on in dreams * women I worked with and who was nasty to me and blocking career progression invited me to dinner, then I left and… Read more »

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯 Dreams do know! Since writing my dreams down I’ve noticed a big change. Before it was just day residue, whatever I watched on the news, themes of the day or whatever. Five years of writing I still have those dreams but they are few & far between. I just write what i remember. For example: I’m walking up a set of stairs & there is a man leading the way. the higher I go the more jelly my legs become. I reach the top & go out on a limb. Aftwards I’m watching small houseboats go up & down… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea

You’ve always been very in touch with your inner Gemmy. Cool….

Daughter said that she put on “Yesterday” by the Beatles and Mecury/Neptune Pisces trine Kataka Jupiter gdaughter got sad and started crying πŸ™ Sweet

flashfire
flashfire

Wow, I have not read this guy, but will be just as soon as I can clear the docket! This is the Awesome… I appreciate Haute action posts like this one so very much, provides such inspiration, education and direction. Humbly requesting more Haute and Hopeful just like this!

Buckle (Aries, Pisces Asc, Gem Moon)
Buckle (Aries, Pisces Asc, Gem Moon)

I bought Johnson’s “Balancing Heaven and Earth” after your recommendation on the Virgo MP3. I love that book because, for me, the autobiographical details make the reading effortless. I have just purchased Johnson’s “Inner Work”, too. I got both on iBooks. I never used to be someone who read books in e-form but I’ve come to really love downloading a sample and seeing whether something grabs me. Switching between books becomes something I do more now too, since they’re all on the iPad. it’s a new dynamic of having the readings ‘converse’. A lot of self-help classics leave me absolutely… Read more »

pi
pi

Omg I thought I was the only one (sort of lol) the power of now , I was kind of… Yeah, ok.
I don’t know. I am Really Wierd about male self help authors. There are so many of them. More man gurus telling me how I oughta live. Maybe that’s just me.

Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
Rache(Aqua/Tauri)

I’m re-living and re-processing my multi-Neptune transit time at the end of 2012 when I had: Uranus square Neptune Neptune conjunct Mercury Neptune sextile Venus Pluto conjunct Neptune Saturn sextile Neptune Yeah. Glad that’s over. I’ve grown a lot and it’s evident to myself and those closet to me but my obsessive tendencies are bringing me to the edge this week and I need to take a stand to protect my mental health, make some boundaries with my colleagues, know that there is always tomorrow to work more, and get some balance back in my life. I still have transiting… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I am so determined not to be a love zombie I just told the Taurus to basically fuq off because I’m tired of trying to get past his defenses. He told me he thought things were progressing naturally and I questioned how it is that he was messaging me once a day and now its like weeks or minutes between messages. And he said he pulled back because he thought I thought it wouldn’t work. Anyway, he assures me I am awesome and interesting and whatever and I still told him so what if he’s not available to connect physically… Read more »

flowerchild
flowerchild

We are having parallel lives, 12HV. My guy is also a Taurus and acting like this, more or less, as well. I don’t have any advice, either. I wish I did.. I kind of suck right now, astrologically speaking, not feeling too strong… With my guy, I just stopped reaching out without saying anything, but my heart and my psyche are obviously still processing this because of those dreams and just that he is still on my mind a lot. On the one hand, it’s not ‘over’ between us, and he would still like to see me, although not that… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I refused to engage his reasoning and just let him know navigating his indifference was exhausting me. Like, I know what my experience has been and I don’t have to make sense of it more than that. Its been Neptunian. That doesn’t mean my insights into him haven’t been real. The difference for me is that its OK for me to be mystical and sensitive. Its trying to pretend I’m not that’s the drain. I don’t have to play dumb or numb. I know what I experience and his priorities aren’t working for me. Its an emotional connection, it doesn’t… Read more »

pi
pi

Yes! Glossing over sensitivity IS draining. It’s ok to be wise and or resilient,which helps us to temper our experiences in the world among others, but sometimes certain people have a fast-track to our softer parts and we have to make a call on how we choose to handle this.. xx

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Whew…you get it. Try to share clarity about Neptune – that’ll learn me! lol

Going to go back to silent mode because this blog has become a den of delusional co-dependency.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Hmmm…..ok 12HV, well I didn’t say pretend to be or feel some way that you’re not. What I said for my own situation is that I have to cut it off with HIM, and not discuss how I’m feeling WITH him, because that won’t be productive for ME, but instead take all those feelings about him that are also very real and processing HARD in my psyche — as evidenced by him showing up in my dreams — and deal with it on my own, or talking it out with friends or on here… He is not going to validate… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Wow, good site… wish there wasn’t a paywall after the third article tho.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Hmm..I wasn’t asking for advice or telling you what to do or what you said. I was sharing *my* experience. and what worked for me. I have a ton of Neptune in my chart – its the point of a T square with Jupiter and Venus and I have 12th house Sun and Venus, and 6th house Jupiter in Pisces which are all getting transited by Chiron, Venus, and Neptune at the moment. Neptune is hard to manage because it goes for dissolved borders. I can’t control that. Like, with the Taurus, as soon as I chatted with him I… Read more »

flowerchild
flowerchild

Have you met this guy in person yet…?

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

yeah…I’m not going to recount ever interaction I’ve had with the guy here.

I’m sorry I even started this thread now.

sweetpea
sweetpea

Hey, it’s okay 12th. Understand about the Neptune and Venus natals…(mentioned mine are opposite and Vertex fated encounters involved, 5th).. Besides that, it was about working with what was real and unreal and people don ‘t often understand that in the same way… Like I had an Aqua friend (Moon in Pisces opposite Pluto,,,she was a counsler) but I wasn’t done with the Pisces yet and I saw her on the street and when I mentioned him she said “still?” We just were not done and I was fuqing done when I was done! Understand about the boundries too…It’s like… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Its frustrating to have a PhD in love zombiedom and have some newbie try to school me on what the fuq my reality is. Over it.

Also, talking about all these non-relationships on this blog is a way of pretending your in one. I’m over that too.

Hope you get a great tip! xo

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

12th, would love to know your definition of a relationship.

A relationship can be any connection berween 2 people who communicate together to the point where someone walks away with a lesson learned.

You make it sound like people who post here don’t have the authority to do so if they aren’t engaged!!

Xo!!!!

Xo!!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Your dreams aren’t real life. If “your guy” isn’t in your life, you’re being a total love zombie. Don’t project your experience onto mine.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Oh 12th… you have the same discussion / thoughts with each guy!! Are you afraid to let go and be with someone in fear of being hurt or taken down. (sigh)… You get so many chances and you make the effort but it always looks likes you push the guy away and then when he distances himself you get upset. I give you credit for being vulnerable to so many guys!! I couldn’t do it.. I won’t do it. I like working with one until it’s done and over with and then another shows up. Poor girl… I know you… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’m not pushing him away, VE. I am accepting he is not available. Like, whatever excuse he has, I’m not arguing his priorities. We all set priorities in life. I’ve been texting him for three months. If he doesn’t feel I’m worth more of an investment of his time by now, I don’t see what other end I need to hold out for. The astro is a good time for honesty, not high ideals in love. I gave it a go with the Pisces, but that whole relationship burned out in the time I’ve been chatting with this f-ing Taurus.… Read more »

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Understood. It’s tuff! I met this guy the other night. Good looking, kind of in the same business as me but looking for a job (same as me) and we had good conversation. So we connected by exchanging phone numbers. I am NOT looking for anyone and I know from the start if I will be good for someone. I didn’t feel that type of connection.. friend maybe. So, it was weird. He had a shuttle pick him up (we were at a restaurant / bar). I didn’t ask. I went to meet him at another place a week later.… Read more »

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

I like the xo from me with the most !!!!!!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

This conversation is making me angry because I learned something valuable that I am trying to share here but the projections of others are masking what I am saying. I require engagement, really ,VE? So it goes. I struggled with making meaning of various spiritual experiences, but those spiritual experiences are my own. I validate my own consciousness. I am clearly one of the few disciplined and brave enough to recognize when I am sleeping and when I am awake. Dreams, visions, synchronicity, ecstasy – I assigned all these to the realm of soul mate encounters. That’s low Neptune. I… Read more »

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

He is a great writer. I love his work.
Thanks for reminding me, it’s time to re-read his works.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Thank you so much for this heads up and for this advice to do some inner work at this time. Low Neptune is lurking all around for me if I care to indulge it and I’m feeling vulnerable and fragile right now so I easily could, but reading this today is pulling me back out of it. Also, Neptune is conjuncting my Moon, so I am getting dragged into this Mars/Nep square on that deeper emotional level, too, so I’d better be careful to do self-care, not self-ruin…. Dreams……yeah. Usually I don’t remember them at all, but lately they’ve been… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

“feeling vulnerable and fragile” totally!

I’ve had dreams of all my exes this week. I don’t remember them all, but one was my Saggo soul mate and we were trying to have intercourse (or I was) and he was pushing all this paper and me and I was like WTF – how’s a bunch of paper going to get me off?

I’m doing Mars in the 4th house. Re-arranged all my furniture and am ripping out a wall to build a console into it. Sawdust in the carpet is real. Good times.

DP
DP

Happy belated! (I think)

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Yes, thanks!

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen

I am going to read his books when I get the chance. “Inner Work” sounds right up my alley. I like Jungian psychology (what I know of it so far). I read a dream interpretation book based on Jungian psychology – Wow! So fun. In dreams, even the most mundane things, the people, the locations, your actions, etc — everything is symbolic. Interestingly, I had a Neptunian dream last night. A character (okay if you must know it was Harry Potter haha) was going very far down into an underground cave. It was small, like a womb, and he was… Read more »

Maleficent
Maleficent

I LOVE this guy’s work.
I have all his books, except the one my dad’s ex gf nicked in CT but they are so accessible and easy to read. Also having the attention span of a fruit fly on speed, I gotta say I do love being able to finish a book and his are just perfect. I’m Junging out right now. Intense dreams but naughtily have not been writing them down. Will start again tonight. Does anyone else find the Alchemy baths make for more intense and lucid dreaming?

Melc
Melc

“Fruit fly on speed” Ah ha ha!!! That paints an awesome image in my mind!!! πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

neat. I just checked out another book he wrote:

Living your Unlived Life : Coping With Unrealized Dreams and Fulfilling your Purpose in the Second Half of Life

In addition to He there is also a We as well.

Maleficent
Maleficent

I fuqing LOVED “we”
It should be mandatory pre teen reading in all school worldwide. Would save a lot of angst πŸ™‚

flowerchild
flowerchild

Wow, thanks for posting this! That is probably THE book I need to read right now as I contemplate beginning the second half of my life and not feeling too good about it, so far…