Information Brokering

Enkel Dika

Hey MM!

I am curious to know what you do when you bump into everyday Muggles who ask what your profession is. Do you say ‘Astrologer’ or give another stock answer that doesn’t invite controversy and makes your life easier for you? If you DO say ‘astrologer’, what’s your stock response if they roll their eyes and say something rude and judgmental about ” that ‘astronomy stuff’ is all made-up baloney?”

The reason I ask is because I’ve worked as a psychic / intuitive counsellor for 10 years and I still COMPLETELY STRUGGLE to admit my occupation, even when filling out a simple clipboard form, let alone when faced with The Inquisition at a dinner party. I know I need to own what I do, accept myself and fuq what people think, but any tips from yourself — someone who’s been out there bravely living her truth decades longer than me — would really be appreciated.

x Cuddly Cancerian

Hey Cuddly Cancerian!

Lol this question reminds me of a Scorpio I used to know who was then the editor of Penthouse magazine. This was pre-internet.  He’d tell people he was a plumber, just to avoid a whole host of annoying questions. One night the person he was talking to really WAS a plumber. Cue completely ridiculous dialogue with the real plumber concluding Scorpio was the most incompetent plumber who ever lived.

I usually try not to say anything as a common Muggle response is to make a really bad joke about “Ur-anus”, say something like “surely you can’t believe in that crap?” or “tell me all about what’s going to be happening to me this year…not that I (titter) believe in it.”  So i kind of fudge it with “writer”.

So I think if it is a clipboard thing, think about the context. For medical peeps, they just want to know if you’re sedentary or a Crossfit instructor, exposed to hazardous materials on a daily basis or you know, managing a rare tulip business. So maybe just put counsellor. Or you could just say airily that you work in “futures”, that your job is “classified,” that you’re an information broker or a witch?

It’s a great question what does everyone else think?

 

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Taurus Vixen

I have the dread too but from a different profession. I’m a Physiotherapist so after I say what I do to strangers at a party I usually get one of two reactions. Either the classic “X has been hurting me” with the expectation that I immediately perform and evaluation and therapy session right there in the middle of a dinner/cocktail party or bar. Nevermind we both have been drinking. Oh and I also get the amazingly long medical history as I try not glaze over. Or the lewd look from a male with the statement “I bet you give a… Read more »

leogroover

great response TV- here’s my card. I have a similar prob working in aged care I immediately get the full history of the elder relative and trials of putting them in a nursing home. My eyes do glaze and I want to scream ‘i’m not at work I don’t care’. Going to party tonight – so need a solution. I want to own my work identity and I love my job but how can I head off a banal convo without being rude. Being natal mars in Libra this is important to me to never to offend and my Leo… Read more »

S

Turn the question around. “So what do you do?” The old flip n switch.

Kool4Katz

Tell em you are a SEPDO. I f they ask further you are a Senility Encalment Purveyor & Despatch Ordinance. If they ask further, feign recognition of another person. A Leo/Lib should be able to pull that off!

fallenangel

I LOVE this question. LOVE it. It’s something I’ve pondered at length and wondered how other people deal with. So two things.. one, it leads back to that eternal question of identity more commonly asked in the West i.e. what do you do. It’s not an unreasonable question given how work occupies most of our time BUT it can give you entirely misleading answers if you’re talking to (more often than not) people who work at jobs that don’t encompass their essence, people in transition, or people happily doing x number of things at once. I’ve always though it better… Read more »

Veronica

Your Saggable honey…??… do tell!

fallen angel

Hahaha.. hilarious, Veronica. That’s what you got out of that entire post? Yes, my Saggable honey. Met in April and haven’t really been apart since.

He’d adorable, Moon in Cancer with Merc in Sagg makes for an interesting combo. If anyone had told me I might end up with a Sagg, I’d have laughed. Turns out, I’m still laughing.

Veronica

FA, You know I always read your whole post, but that is what I immediately wanted to know 🙂

Sounds awesome, all his Sagg would love your aqua and Leo bits, and he has the Cancerian EQ depth, Which Saggies don’t always have. Unusual combo, haven’t come across it before.
Great that you are laughing together! Xxc

Quitelight

This hits a chord for me because I am day-jobbing in admin in academia, but also teach yoga & just started doing professional tarot readings. The best policy is to go with my gut as to what to say or write to whom. I don’t care to jeopardize my credibility at work, but I really don’t care to lie either. I will say it has some interesting results. I was at a bridal shower a few years back where they had a bunch of manicurists come to the lounge & do all our nails. (Did I mention this group of… Read more »

connie

I tell some people I am an astrologer and the response is often one of interest and curiosity and good questions, that’s because I now live on the West Coast (they call it the “Best Coast”) instead of the East Coast. My family wanted to disown me when I first started my teaching and my counselling. I love astrology and am proud to do it anywhere. The negative feedback is passing and reminds me of what Eleanor Roosevelt said: Don’t worry about what people think of you, they hardly do so at all. : )

Stella Seaspirit

I’m a Professional Source-ress and to those not ready to get it I’m a holistic therapist. I do love the idea of stating that’s it’s classified though *cackle*

Ambre

I grew up travelling my whole life and my sister and I born in different countries each hold three passports ..my whole life I struggled with muggles and to be honest they exist in every county and nationality ..I put it down to those of the clan and those of the call…My sister and I have literally told blatant lies about our names , where we are from and sometimes what we do ..literally because it is easier ,,for ourselves . I have no delusions about being authentic and all that blah blah as far as I am concerned I… Read more »

DP

Those of the clan and those of the call… I love it, pure poetry.

Sphinx

Yes, I agree. Also, it is like defensive driving, you know? Think a few steps ahead and watch out for those who shouldn’t be on the road.

davidl

Yes, deep into summer in Australia I’m usually quite dark skinned, tanned. My facial features and the tan allow me to temporarily join the indigenous race. My family and I have great fun with people who ask ? Ummm, what nationality are you ? And I reply I’m indigenous… Stunned silence follows , awkward looks.
Or when someone asks about my work, I say .. Picking up rubbish from the beaches in the national park…..more stunned silence. (Funny thing is, my family know that that is the lifestyle I aspire to in real life) 🙂

davidl

Myst, your Ground Control to thousands of us astronauts stationed around the globe. Checking ignitions as we speak.

Aquagem

Tell them you’re a mercenary and you are on a job right now…

calypso

once I met a guy in a bar who told me “I’m an anarchist” (although I don’t recall whether it was in response to any query about what he “did”).

So I had sex with him, but meh, he didn’t live up to his initial promise 😉

calypso

ps. If he’s told me he was an accountant I wouldn’t have had sex with him (NUranus conjunct Venus in 5th)

Pi

Aha. I do like an undercover(s) anarcha-lover. Venus in the 10th tho, so he has to look hot in something resembling a suit. Actually, fuq that. No suit.
Just trousers.
Hmm
No trousers.
Yes… Much better. What did you say you did again, guy?

Pi

Pi, aka sleazebag 😛

Kool4Katz

I said l was an agronomist

Pi

Lol!

Anonymous

*something about sowing wild oats*

Anonymous

I was wowing siloed oats
And feedn mild goats
Patting their mange
Out on the range
At the end of John O’Groats

Anonymous

I cant lie; it was him

Pi

Or is 10th house Venus meant to be me looking hot in sth resembling a suit. Ah whatever.

Kool4Katz

Send me a pic

Kool4Katz

It was on the scale of what l was expecting; l’m not gutted tho. It ties up the Kiwi and Aussie accents perfectly. When a Kiwi orders “Fish and Chips” an Aussie hears “Fushion Chaps”.

“There’s a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot”

Pi

What I like most is that I can Google “fish wearing a suit” and the internet delivers pronto.

Kool4Katz

What asc n moon are you? You seem as unPisces as l am un-Kat I dont take notes. Outer planets affecting me more than da others. Or so it seems ( i resisted sum puns)

pi

capricorn moon like our friend S and others, and mercury everywhere, like mercury does.

Anonymous

Explains your Quicksilver posts. Havnt seen S lately.

My brain hurts- migraine. Schlaft gut, ja.

Anonymous

wishing you a migraine-free evening..
pi

Matt Savinar

Oh geez this is the bane of my existence. I still just say “attorney” so I don’t have to deal with the crap.

Sphinx

Yes, you can just mumble “attorney to the stars” (though I am not sure Sir Pluto and Lord Jupiter will bow down to any court), howevs people will want to know more immediately..

Pi

I knew someone who was getting her MBA and did some pretty good tarot reading on the side. Part of her ” total business solutions ” biz plan, I think. If had a biz to manage, she would be in my speed dial for sure.

Kool4Katz

Galactic Chromohaemmagnatite & Gaseous Cluster Interpreter

Ram-madam dingdong

Today’s winner!
By a galactic mile!

Kool4kATZ

Ram-Madam DingDong. Love that name. Lovely cadence to it. Another name that rings my bells

Invicta

I love being asked.
I don’t have a standard response but usually pick whatever version of my current range of “things I do to pay for Loubotins ” I think will offend them the most.

Pi

Ahaha atta girl! I don’t know which part of my chart is accountable for this but most of me just gets a kick out of putting it out there and letting the other person deal with it. They’re the ones with the problem, not me lol.
But I do understand and use the clipboard/ elevator speech option. Sometimes one’s profession / day thing is not the point of the conversation.

Anonymous

OH for lord’s sake just OWN it. Just be it already. Who cares what they think? You may be surprised by what they think; they may be wholly into it. Who knows. We all just have to be wholly ourselves; that’s a gift. It then gives others that perfect example to be themselves. Who knows, you just may be talking to somebody afraid to admit they are … what?

Matt Savinar

Actually you develop a really good radar for whether the person is going to be okay with it.

Chris

I a bit off topic but… I relocated away from my professional sphere a couple of years ago and here in the blandest city in the world I am a nothing professionally. It used to really irk me. When my savings ran out I just grabbed a job I would’ve considered way beneath me in my narcecistic – top of my game days – and you know what I do now? I wipe ass. For this formerly egocentric cappo it is the best thing that could happen. I have recently re engaged with the professional field I was top of… Read more »

Sphinx

If I was going to work for anyone, it would be a humble Capricorn. They are the best bosses I have known.

Anonymous

You’re hired!

The Leo Socialite

* Time travelling whore.

* I work in intelligence, it is classified.

* resting between roles.

* Co enabler to narcissistic rich pricks

* What do i DO? Baby, i just breathe, moment to moment, always in the moment, pass me some more of that joint.

* I used to be a contender

* HUH? (if you don’t know who i am i don’t need to know who YOU are)

* I am a director.

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

You’re pure Leo!

Sphinx

😀

Pi

Item #5: is that your Pisces Moon speaking 😀

Anonymous

Gold as always LS. Im going to a party tonight Im going to be your no. 4 or poss Jaguar Vet in Cambodia

saraekali

😀 love this!

Domestic Triffid

I *Was* an Information Broker 😀 Worked as a Reference Librarian for 12 years. Now ? Witch. Artist. Possibly about to become a hypnotherapist…. (That Stellium in my third house – why be one thing when you can be 15 ?!?) I learnt this years ago, studying Philosophy – when people asked what I did I’d say “Philosopher”. Cue the *most* fascinating conversations. You’d be *amazed* at what people think, if they’re given an opportunity to discuss it with an open minded listener. And science-y types ? I discuss probabilities of disaster scenarios with them, they love that shit. Gives… Read more »

roadhouse41

Consultant. Life Coach could also work but that’s almost worse than Astrologer.

Sphinx

Haha, definitely worse!

elvirago

Counsellor, because you are one.

Sphinx

Mystic I have wondered how you represent your work, thanks for posting this!
My upfront, almost aspie inability to bother with half truth got me in trouble a few times (response: “crystals? haha! oh..”).
I sometimes say hypnotherapist but it conjures images of chickens, a stage and a velvet curtain for some.

Pi

Chickens!! Lol
Bok bok

skarab

chickens?

Sphinx

oh you know, like the tacky side-show bob style of hypnosis where you are hypnotised to believe you are a chicken or something. ugh. Lo-hypno.

I think spiritual counsellor would be nicer sounding as I work from a holistic paradigm that includes a spiritual perspective, but people think that means I should be very serious, which doesn’t work for me either.

Sphinx

I still want to say, “Exorcist” to put a cat amongst the pigeons sometimes 😀 .

Pi

Oh go on!! Do it and share the reactions.

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

Here are my suggestions:

Consultant
Information Broker
Analyst

But yah, it’s ridiculous that you should have to think up alternative job titles.

Sphinx

It does feel ridiculous but on thinking about it I don’t think it is ridiculous as we are many smaller cultures united in one bigger one. If Mystic said she was a seer in a small village no one would raise an eyebrow because her whole story would be known to everyone. But in a world where all belief systems differ, all abilities to shift vibration differ, where there is no understanding of other’s stories and there is no cohesion to a community, we can’t offer a soundbite that has any meaning. So we end up having to offer a… Read more »

Aqua-cap-Gemini

I’m a single unemployed mother, aspiring writer currently working on a biography project with a really well known psychic healer, and another tome dealing with modern day dystopian realities and technologies. I also do proof reading for the visionary Emoto.. I recently (as my baptism by zap zone fire) morphed in to a fully fledged (untrained) natural healer & cured my fathers cancer with nothing more than schizz from the kitchen & bits from my home natural medicine tool box. Most people only hear ‘unemployed single mum making up loads of interesting crap to colour her otherwise dull life’. In… Read more »

Libra9

Why do you say single unemployed mother when you are obviously gainfully employed as a nurturer/career/writer. Never underestimate what you project with a label. When I was unemployed a couple of years ago I dressed every day as if I was going to work and if people asked what I was doing my reply was”gainfully self-employed”. Good luck.

Aquafleur

I like information broker and for you Mystic writer is good and you do write well

Quadrupled

I guess I would go with “life coach” or “a teacher, teaching adults at continuous education programs here and there”

vikingwoman

My pastor at a local mainstream church tells people that he’s in Sales. Insurance Sales to be exact. He doesn’t want people to think he’s not a regular dude because people act all weird (guarded, suddenly clutching their pearls) around a guy who loves football and happens to be a very competitive hockey dad. very. competitive. hockey dad. I ask people if they believe in statistics and technical analysis when they look at stocks. I ask them if they understand the process of loan underwriting and credit score analysis. If I still have their attention then I might tell them… Read more »

Astraea

“I ask people if they believe in statistics and technical analysis when they look at stocks……the same principles that are applied and taken seriously about technical analysis and loan/credit underwriting are the very same thing with astrology…..”

Brilliant!

Invicta

I have name envy over you! Reading a biography of Aphra Behn. X love your name. It’s boootiful

Anonymous

I LOVE this approach.
Pi

Buckle (Aries, Pisces Asc, Gem Moon)

Writer is a good response for a whole host of writing-associated things. As someone doing a PhD, I understand. If I had a dollar for the amount of times some complete stranger has virtually told me I’m a waste of space and of the taxpayer’s money, I’d have about $52.75. It’s boring and it’s worth avoiding. For cuddly Cancerian I think counsellor is good option for thing to say. We’re talking about everyday interactions in which people whom you are not going to work with just automatically go into a very tiresome mode of trying to ‘put you straight’ but… Read more »

VivaEva

Mystic you are just so creative, I love it.

Kool4Katz

I broke up with my psychic girlfriend before we met

Sphinx

🙂 you must be psychic.

Anonymous

Or sidekick

locotoro

Depends how you use your astrology/magicks. For Mystic, writer/blogger works. Counsellor works. Magazine columnist, therapist, author, etc. Definitely self-employed.

I’d personally just say astrologer. No one questions priets/nuns/rabbis/whatevs why they chose their field. (Not a fair comparison, but still..) You shouldn’t have to either.

Information broker could be a risky choice of words, but I’m paranoid as fuq and wouldn’t want people coming at me seeking, um, certain information y’know? (I grew up fearing mobs.)

Kool4Katz

All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my right hand

PhoenixWolf

Hilarious. Do you have any of your own jokes?

Anonymous

Animals one is mine. Ive thanked Steven Wright before.

Kool4Katz

Plus l got AquaMoon/Psyche and Uranus1H. I gotta do MY take on things unless l cant something out of my head. S Wright, M Python and S Micallef live as quasi permanent boarders in in zircon encrusted and silicon enhanced lower left felstedian and cartesian quadrant acting as steering, power and braking.

Anonymous

passive aggro much phoenix donkey? i mean wolf

Anonymous

ooooooh…..hehehe

Kool4Katz

You could say you work with animals

Pointy claws

How does one make a living as an “intuitive counselor”, i wonder?
I don’t ask in the spirit of condescension. I ask because that sounds like my ideal occupation and no one hardly ever mentions the backstory to where they got where they are.
yay being 24 and everyone else has their shit figured out already, ha.
On the subject, would write down self-employed and leave it at that.

Sphinx

Don’t worry, I wouldn’t have been able to do the kind of energy work I do now without the mad times I had in my 20’s. To be a counsellor it’s good to be older and have gone through a range of experiences here on planet earth I think. Life experience and self knowledge come before that job title generally speaking!

PhoenixWolf

I would say try to find a way to be authentic and accept your position. However, if people still look at you like you’re a crazy witch, then your job is in your title already, “Counsellor”.

Pointy claws

Thanks for the thoughtful responses everyone. Alternative lifestyles ftw

Clarissa Dolphin

I think it’s totally OK to be authentic about your occupation, without being attached to other people’s opinion of the profession. Who cares what Muggles think? Quite often, they’re miserable, repressed sorrow-addicts who batter themselves with illogical internal dialogue anyway. This Cancer Sun/Gemini Rising/Virgo Moon chick votes for being straight out real with it. But I understand the desire to keep it on the low to prevent annoying interactions too! Compassion to all choices here! Honoring everything!

Sphinx

I don’t think it is just about avoiding annoying interactions, I think it is respecting the muggle’s get frightened, upset, challenged by this kind of thing. You know, maybe in a past life they were witches on the end of the village pitchfork and to hear the word ‘astrology’ sends them into visceral state of fear/rage?

jicky

I remember taking a flyer for a women’s spiritual group meeting to the library to ask if I could put it on their community board. The woman behind the counter read it, snorted then said ok. It was quite demoralising.

As Mystic says for clipboards keep it innocuous such as helping profession, support worker, life coach.

For a dinner party though I’d probably fess up – it could make for some interesting conversations and potential new clients. You may get a better reception than what you expect.

Taryn

Yes, love this given my own ongoing experience with responding to such ‘nosy’ querying. If out with my friends & I’m asked? They cringe…& I wait a moment before saying ‘Sex Therapist & Tantra Teacher’ which is suddenly Acceptably Cool & trending with the 20 something’s lining up to study Sexology!

Oh, and I WAS an

tantricsexcoach

K-Gem

Information broker covers a multitude of possibilities so I’d go with that.
Or plumber.

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