When You Can Only Love King Neptune

Hajin Bae Kim Soon in

Dear Mystic,

I have a problem. I only fall in love with Neptunian men. Grifters. Conspiracy theorists. Deluded hotties. Visionary seducers. Mystics.

I discovered this because my latest love is a Mars-Neptune man and I’m delighted that I can feel something again. Certainly doesn’t hurt that his natal Mars is opposite my Mars-Pluto, all in a square to his Neptune, no less.

I suppose it’s not my fault. My father has Neptune on his ascendent and I have had Neptune in my 7th house for over a decade. It gets out in 2021 and have vowed not to get married until 2022 at earliest, if at all. I also have my natal moon in Pisces in a square to Neptune.

But I am the Venus-Uranus woman. My natal Neptune is in the fifth house conjunct Jupiter and Mercury: Neptune energy brings me so much creativity and fun. It brings me alive.

I find these relationships give me a deep amount of inspiration and joy like nothing else. But they can turn very bad because I tend to get deluded. Nothing quite breaks your heart like Neptune. Being a Capricorn with a sun in the 6th house I don’t find myself getting caught up in the drugs and diversions but instead delight in it all vicariously. I have a good relationship with Saturn to the point of over-channeling Saturn. Perhaps I am simply looking for someone else to live out my Neptunian energy for me?

I have tried dating non-Neptunians but I am indifferent to them. I have tried very, very hard. Any advice for young players?

How might a person keep a Neptunian relationship from turning into a nightmare?

My actual nightmares are always about drowning in the ocean and I try to avoid recalling my dreams altogether to avoid the nightmare hangover. It’s becoming obvious that this is all connected and that I should step out of denial.

I don’t expect to be able to connect to the light of Neptune without having to withstand a lot of its darkness also, but YOU must know how to handle this with grace and conscious awareness? I don’t want to be a passive victim of the tides: I want to direct the tides, or at least surf them with some finesse.

Sincerely, Feline Foe x x

Dear Feline Foe,

I’ll tell you one thing woman – you can write. I also feel this dilemma – i only attract Uranians. It’s gotten to the stage where if a man even likes me, i can pretty much guarantee he’s got Uranus Rising or on his Moon or something. And with that Neptune transit of yours, you are clearly like catnip to Neptune men.

Oh and re Mars-Neptune men – you saw this, right?ย  They’re exciting – they may send you mad but they are unlikely to ever bore you or insist that you come to some dull company function. And what does a Venus Uranus woman crave more than anything else in relationships?ย  Electrifying rapport and shitloads of personal space.

It seems so simple from the outside – you channel YOUR Neptune via a creative career – never mind vicarious whatever via Neptunian men – Neptune as a Muse for writing, dance, cinema, art, music, acting – anything creative – is the most powerful Muse.

So you have your OWN Neptune scene going down, you already know how to inoculate yourself from the worst aspects of Neptunians – you say yourself you don’t get caught up any lower Neptune vortex – and you crank that Venus-Uranus up to high beam. Venus-Uranus is just BORED by anything soggy, let alone delusional or not really happening.

The more you do your own creative vibe and clearly you are eloquent as fuq, the more you attract a higher order of Neptunian guys into your life. It’s not mandatory to do darkness along with Neptune – be it when you love Neptunian men or if you’re having a Neptune transit. You just need to totally work your Saturn and Uranus to both set boundaries and alert you if anything delusional, toxic of Love Zombie-esque breaches your perimeter.

What does everyone else think?

 

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moved on
moved on

Well, God help me and any other female that deals with my son when he is older. Mars, Neptune and Uranus in Aquarius and both mercury and venus at 22 degrees in libra. Scorpio sun and ascendant. Yep, he’s spent his whole life poking people’s ego just to see what the reaction is and their endurance level. He does have a taurus moon, which might ground him a little – I hope (as he gets older)

FelineFoe
FelineFoe

Begs the question: am I doing Neptune today, or am I doing a Neptunian? Both would be nice. Mystic and commenters, thank you! I can confirm that these Neptunians have all forced me to take possession my personal Neptunian powers, which explains a lot about why I am so grateful for them. That and the sex. Falling in love with King Neptune as path to falling in love with Neptunian Self is what I am gleaning from this and I cannot thank you all enough. Do you or get done, methinks. For more specifics, if anyone happens to be interested,… Read more »

davidl
davidl

Great post. Made me think of how Neptune has little sense of time or timing. While for Saturn it’s the key feature. So getting these 2 working together, respecting each other will alleviate a lot of the grief.
E.g it’s 2 in the morning, Neptune wants another line, another drink, another anything… Saturn knows you have a client meeting at 8.
Who’s going to win that little battle ?

hdq
hdq

Thanks for this!!!

Love, Venus-Uranus with Neptune DC

lo
lo

I hate neptune…well, I think i do.

I have it transiting on my Dc. It will by in my 7th house until the end of days. I hate it.

lou
lou

I hate neptune too. I have pisces moon and rising in the 12th house. So confusing. And neptune in my 7th house. I struggle for clarity.

piscorp
piscorp

Yup I have mars Neptune conjunct sun with Mercury in my 8th so astrology is my salvation, more than my creativity.

Jessiemo
Jessiemo

Spooky I could almost have written that letter, I’m a Capricorn and four out of the five most important men have been Pisces and the second son (for my birth order fetish).

FelineFoe
FelineFoe

Glad to hear of another Capricorn with a Piscean habit.

Veronica
Veronica

Today, Transiting mars and Saturn almost exact on natal Neptune in my 2nd and have landed a desireable photography teaching position (temporary). This despite the fact that I don’t interview well at all (a bit incoherent at teacherspeak) but have been working there a few months this year and higher ups are pleased with what I’ve been doing. So going to be doing high Neptune, with that Saturnian edge of teaching kids, heaps of fun, but lots of prep necessary. My Leo partner is natal Mars Neptune square and his rising exact on my natal Neptune. So our relationship has… Read more »

Veronica
Veronica

Come to think of it, He is definitely not accessing his own creativity in recent years, which was athletics and high level sport, as he now has some chronic joint and back probs. I keep suggesting he try drama classes or something like that, but his Leo merc is very close to Leo Saturn in 10th.

FelineFoe
FelineFoe

Starting to think that repressed creativity kills. They should put that warning on a packet somewhere.

Veronica
Veronica

๐Ÿ˜€

pi
pi

Can I also add a vote for Neptune activation in self via actual physical water? Immersion, swimming etc, working with, living near. X

Libra dress historian
Libra dress historian

Great advice for Neptunians, you have to channel and project some of the qualities you vicariously live through to attract a higher order of mer-man. I have Neptune in Cap rising with Leo crossing my 7th and 8th houses so I’ve been drawn to Leos, who are uber-dashing, but like Dorothy of Oz’s lion, self-obsessed and deficient in the heart department. Now, with Jupiter in Leo and Saturn on my Venus, I’m channelling my own creativity, learning my love lessons and fingers crossed, will attract a real lion in the future ๐Ÿ˜‰

Seagoat
Seagoat

Yes I agree with everyone here. I think a creative career is clearly the best way to channel Neptune, but that’s not to say the creative life is without its own treacherous undercurrents; it can be tough just to MAKE something. You wonder if it’s worth all the unacknowledged effort. And then you remember how it feels in the water…

S
S

The finished product never equates to the journey of creating. You create because you love to.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes yes and yes. Pi x

Seagoat
Seagoat

Sure, S I think that’s what I was (trying) to say, but I do think there’s a sustained effort required that can take you well past the point of ‘things I love to do’, a kind of compulsion? – maybe this is where Neptune creativity might differ from say, Mecurial creativity.

FelineFoe
FelineFoe

AMEN.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

I’m a reformed drama queen and certainly had a taste for Neptunian substances. For the longest time I felt like a sensible person trapped in the body of a cray-cray. Which wasn’t so far from the truth. Cray-cray runs in my family – at least the Greek side of my heritage – they’re all fuqing nuts and I unfortunately copped a heavy dose of their genetics. Yes creative and talented and all that jazz … but also dominated by batshit compulsions, moods and odd mind-emotional states that made day to day living a grind. After a gruelling transformational process I… Read more »

Seagoat
Seagoat

From your posts I can’t imagine you to be ‘boring’ in any sense of the word. I wouldn’t worry about keeping your Leo entertained… it takes two to tango (glib but true).

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Thanks Seagoat. I’m glad I don’t come across boring on blog – it would freak out my Gem Asc/Leo merc if I did! ๐Ÿ˜‰

davidl
davidl

I have Neptune in the 5th in scorp. It has sextiles to Saturn and Pluto and trines mars. So it’s sort of held in check to a point. Imagine Neptune energy as a spiral or vortex if you like. It reaches to higher octaves and dives deep into the underworld. The problem is it doesn’t discern or guide, it’s just there. Discernment hence is the only skill required for safe entry and Neptune is only asking one question. Do we seek the higher or lower ? E.g Do I want to get high or do I want to get ‘out… Read more »

hdq
hdq

This

leo-scorp grrl
leo-scorp grrl

“you channel YOUR Neptune via a creative career โ€“ never mind vicarious whatever via Neptunian men โ€“ Neptune as a Muse for writing, dance, cinema, art, music, acting โ€“ anything creative โ€“ is the most powerful Muse.” Love that part/ Agree entirely. I am not a Neptunian type but had HUGE delusional marriage during Neptune opposing my Leo. Now, I’m doing me. Full on Saturn Transit. Cap moon. Jupiter now in my leo where I have Venus. Merc. Mars. No time for eating shit in a relationship, I’m doing my thing. Have a beau I reconnected with after declaring I… Read more »

calypso
calypso

I don’t know, you are thinking of yourself as Venus-Uranus, but you have a pretty strong Neptune yourself, conjunct Jupiter/Merc? And being in the 5th natally and 7th in transit, woo, yeah. They’re on the menu. I have Neptune on the DC opp my Moon, so I’ve always had relationships with artists, drunks, or unavailable men. I’m not thinking I have to avoid artists or substance users or even unavailable men, necessarily (def avoid the substance ABusers tho), I just need to find one within a set-up that works for me, them and anyone else in our lives. Actually what… Read more »

calypso
calypso

while simultaneously busting the delusion. the one thing I do not want to be again is deluded. but that’s not about the dudes, thats about us, amirite?

gbs
gbs

As someone with Sun conjunct Neptune and a full fifth house (Venus, Uranus, Pluto), I have to express art and spirituality in concrete ways or low Neptune takes over pretty quickly: love zombieism, martyrdom, losing my identity in other people’s needs.

Your Capricorn Sun in the sixth gives you the power to craft something step by step. I think that’s a formidable asset in figuring out a way to channel all your fifth-house energy.

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

Channel it into art
When you get in touch with YOUR inner Neptunian, maybe you won’t need it so much in others?

As I have been doing lately
http://newhive.com/epithet/the-journey

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

Interesting, I also have a Jupiter-Mercury conjunction…in Pisces. In life I am very very introverted but I also stimulation seeking, I finally get the intensity I want then go detached, pick up shiny pieces like a greedy magpie and take them home to do something with them. You want to be inspired. Be inspired. Get lost in it. And then transform it! I agree that you are a lovely writer and probably a natural artist. ๐Ÿ™‚

Aishah Macgill
Aishah Macgill

As one who has spent a lifetime in the mire of Neptune, I learnt a long time ago to surrender to my nature. Life is merely an illusion so why not have the whole shebang? Learn to love them for a time and always be prepared ahead of time let go of him at some point, or ride the storm. In this pattern, who let’s go first, you or them? And would you want yo spend a lifetime with any one of them anyway?

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

I relate to this a lot, not only am I Venus conjunct Uranus but Venus conjunct Neptune! In the 8th! “And what does a Venus Uranus woman crave more than anything else in relationships? Electrifying rapport and shitloads of personal space.” Yup. Full Vulcan mind-meld or nothing. I seem to want geniuses in different countries who can keep up with my long stream-of-consciousness emails and actually read the journal pdfs I email so we can talk about them. Who send me equally amazing things to read and blow my mind open a little more. The only guy I was serious… Read more »

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

I totally understand what you’re saying and yeah, you have to follow what you authentically want and not try to force yourself into something because it’s “time”/”stable”/”good for me”, blah blah blah. I’m just so done with the rollercoaster that I’m rethinking some of my habits. But also really enjoying being alone right now and, if anything, scared to give up my independence again?

davidl
davidl

As far as one nut the other stable. It may be a balance but an extreme one. Where is the range of activity ? Where do we come together ? A sign of an enduring relationship to me is when you can swap roles. You be the crazy one in this situation and I’ll keep an eye out for you. And vice versa. That’s where the balance can be attained. The crazier you get the more solid I need to be. When your being sensible I’ll play the joker and let’s see how serious this really is. We choose the… Read more »

Ram-madam a-dingdong
Ram-madam a-dingdong

Spot on!

Tanya
Tanya

Well said. I’m a Taurus with Venus in Taurus opp Uranus in Scorpio. My Uranus is in the first house, square my Mars/Saturn/Midheaven conjunction. I’m a very Uranian person, but also a very Plutonian person with Moon conjunct Pluto & Rising. I’m a nut & like weird guys. But I’ve learned I need to take responsibility for how healthy I make my relationship, as well as he. If I satisfy my wanderlust & thrill seeking, then I don’t have to bring that to the relationship. I think its better when one person is the nut & the other more normal.… Read more »

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

I so feel you on wanting to be the nut. And I really have to go back into my copy of The Artist’s Way. This was very timely advice for me to hear too. I have a Pisces rising and my Neptune conjunct my Sag Sun, so I’m not sure how much of a choice I have in the matter of being the nut. The guys I like tend to be Moony-Saturn types — hardworking Eeyores for me to cheer up so I don’t have to deal with my own Jupiter-Neptuney feelings of uselessness. I need to project my own… Read more »