Married To A Virgo Robot

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Dear Mystic,

I’m a Gemini married to a Virgo, so I’m sure you can imagine the difficulties we might have. I talk, he doesn’t. I multi-task, he dithers. I talk about my feelings, he doesn’t have any. Blah blah blah.

Anyway, I was diagnosed with a type of gastrointestinal disorder 3 years ago and I won’t go into detail, but it’s all been very Pluto. You know.

I have been very sick during this time, at more than one point looking like a ghoulish shadow of my former self. But instead of being a nurturing Virgo (like my Mother, also a Virgo, and selfless to a fault) the Virgo Robot seems to regard my illness with disdain and a kind of, “ick, can’t you just, not be sick around me?” factor.

Last night in one of our usual lying-in-bed unable-to-sleep rows (or shall I say, screaming monologue) he eventually cracked after 1.5 hours and revealed that he wishes I would just “stop talking” sometimes and that he finds my health condition “off-putting”.

I then proceeded to lose my sh*t during which at some point, he actually fell asleep.

What is it with Virgos? My ex-boyfriend was a Virgo and was exactly the same. Every time I began to show too much emotion, vulnerability or realness he would start blinking nervously like Phil Dunphy and slowly back away from me.

They also just don’t smell. They always either smell of nothing, or some delightful aftershave or something. It’s like they don’t even walk, they just glide. And obviously, they just poop rainbows. Ugh.

Would love to hear your thoughts xx 

Mrs Gemini 

Dear Mrs Gemini,

Actually it is hard for me to imagine the difficulties a Virgo and a Gemini might have – on the face of it – as you at at least both Mercurial, both Mutable.  Gemini-Virgo can be a super-erudite and cool coupling. And i also adore Virgo men, one in particular. So the robotic scenario you’re describing is not endemic to Virgos.

However, this seems like a zombie marriage. One of the both of you are already energetically outta there. If this relationship were an empire, this would be the stage where the barbarians are storming the gate, the city guards are already running out the back with as much loot as they can carry, the slaves are in open revolt and the emperor and empress are drunk in their quarters. Fin de siecle and all that.

Maybe it all came to some sort of a climax or moment of clarity with the recent Grand Cardinal Cross-Zap Zone intensification (mid-April to May, on again now) but if what you’re describing is for real, would it not be time to either (a) seek couples counseling or (b) devise an exit strategy?

Remember that the Zap Zone (on till next April) rewards authenticity and soul-driven enterprise or relationships but it is a hell of a punish for those lingering in stagnant circumstances.

What does everyone else think?

 

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Liz
Liz
July 14, 2014 10:32 pm

Hi! I’m a female Virgo with a moon in Capricorn. I think it’s because of our sun sign that’s why we seem cold and appear like we don’t care? I won’t generalize all Virgos but in my case, I’m guilty of giving an impression like I don’t care. In my family for example, when someone’s sick, I much prefer if they would say it once and let action speak louder than words. My eyes can detect any small changes anyway in them so most of the time, I don’t like to be told about it especially when things are already… Read more »

AquaCrab
AquaCrab
June 22, 2014 3:50 am

Well, I’m not a Virgo or a Gemini, but I have Venus in Virgo and I have to admit that I hate it when people talk endlessly about their ailments, whether physical or otherwise. Unless the dialogue is productive, as in working toward figuring things out or fixing them, I do get turned off. Or as one poster said, worn down by the repetition…without any movement toward resolution/surrender/acceptance or whatever needs to happen. That’s torturous. I’m all in, and totally supportive, if a person is doing something other than complaining/wallowing. I can talk for hours and do extensive research for… Read more »

twicethevirgo
twicethevirgo
June 21, 2014 11:55 am

I’m a Virgo Sun/Rising and I LOVE Geminis and have often been in relationships with them. I think your partner is doing some low Virgo nonsense. It’s true, Virgos can be nurturing — and also can love to talk about other people’s illness, symptoms and ways to heal. I have a GI illness too, and since educating myself about gut bacteria and the evils of gluten I’ve become a weird resource for friends who are having similar issues. BUT, I know a lot of Virgo men who sound like your husband, and actually I was a little bit like that… Read more »

Mrs. Gemini
Mrs. Gemini
June 21, 2014 8:04 am

P.S was not comparing his “love” to my Mother, was comparing his Virgoness to another Virgo. Swap out Mother for “other Virgo I know” if you like. I thought nurturing was a Virgo trait, and I know plenty of nurturing Virgos, so was comparing. Was not meant to be some weird Freudian thing… Also, screaming monologue for 1.5 hrs was self-deprecating hyperbole. I use humour to deal with pain 🙂 And when we do end up having a long, erm, discussion it’s because he’s been basically monosyllabic and physically avoidant (“robot mode”) for 2 weeks or more and something’s got… Read more »

Mercury Goddess
Mercury Goddess
June 21, 2014 12:09 am

I find it strange as well that a Virgo/Gemini combo cannot communicate effectively with each other. May I suggest looking at his Moon Sign to try to get a feel for his emotional level? My Sun is in Virgo – logical, analytical, sensitive – but I always “felt” more emotional about things. When I looked at where my Moon is (Scorpio) that just told me everything I needed to know as to why I felt so much more than my logical self.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.
June 20, 2014 10:14 pm

What I have found is that Health is a taboo subject. Taboo because it makes people uncomfortable (as it’s intrinsically tied to one’s feelings on their own mortality). Want to clear a room fast? Mention your chronic illness: people will be climbing over each other to escape your cooties & their own deaths. Ironically, like lemmings over a cliff. Also in Western culture’ish societies where there’s such priority on independence & individualism, health is taboo as it reminds others of our vulnerability: someday you will get sick at least once & you will Depend on some degree of help from… Read more »

Pi
Pi
June 21, 2014 12:11 am

I think you make a good point.

Pi
Pi
June 21, 2014 12:14 am
Reply to  Pi

Yes (further thought). We are so ridiculously averse to the abject, such a strange fear of the Body. I have been reading some v interesting stuff around this in the context of women book called ” the monstrous feminine – Regulating the reproductive body” it’s FASCINATING and also sad. I think we could extend this to some other aspects of the bod and it’s more problematic times..

hayleyla
hayleyla
June 20, 2014 9:04 pm

I am a Pisces Sun, Gemini Rising, Capricorn Moon. I love this combination (aside form the squares – ugh). But, I am practically married to a Libran Sun, Pisces Moon and (I am pretty sure) Virgo Rising man. I was about to launch into gender vs astro issues, because I think that rules here. But I do have a similar astro to deal with in our relationship and I see non talking, feels like non-feeling, I am more communicative and need more feedback than him – etc. The way I work now is to honour my knowledge (astro and personal… Read more »

Pi
Pi
June 21, 2014 12:10 am
Reply to  hayleyla

Hay hayleyla, we have the same astro!! 🙂

GeminiResistingVirgo
GeminiResistingVirgo
June 20, 2014 4:38 pm

Hi All, I’m a Gemini sun, Virgo rising, Pisces moon. My husband is Gemini sun, Virgo rising, Gemini moon. Last week he passed out twice at the farmers market and I stood there like an idiot while my husband hit the pavement…twice. For all my Gemini brains and Virgo control I didn’t know what to do in the situation and as far as my Pisces moon was concerned I was witnessing the death of my hot, sporty 30 yr old husband and I’d be a fuqing widow at 28. He’s absolutely fine BTW. Working too hard and a touch of… Read more »

pi
pi
June 20, 2014 7:20 pm

Just wanted to say hello and welcome xx

Scorpbot
Scorpbot
June 20, 2014 7:28 pm

Yes, hello! 🙂

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 20, 2014 7:31 pm
Reply to  Scorpbot

Thanks peeps! Loving this community…

S
S
June 20, 2014 7:56 pm
Reply to  Anonymous

Hello
Fight, flight and freeze are natural responses to an event like that.
Glad to hear all are well.
Congrats on first time post 🙂

GeminiResistingVirgo
GeminiResistingVirgo
June 20, 2014 8:48 pm
Reply to  S

Very true S! Along with a whole bucket load of out-of-the-blue anger the next day. 🙂

Not much comfort to the Mr. however.

Sphinx
Sphinx
June 20, 2014 8:55 pm
Reply to  Anonymous

Hi GemRVir! Welcome also, 😉 .

Sphinx
Sphinx
June 20, 2014 8:56 pm
Reply to  Sphinx

p.s. you and your hub have quite the astro signature polka going on!

GeminiResistingVirgo
GeminiResistingVirgo
June 20, 2014 9:05 pm
Reply to  Sphinx

Haha I KNOW! I was in too deep when I figured it out.

Its like living with a mirror constantly…can’t get away with anything cuz its all just reflected back at you.

On the plus side though he wears his insides on his outsides, if you know what I mean…

Mrs. Gemini
Mrs. Gemini
June 21, 2014 7:27 am

“Is there any chance your husband want to be there for you, wants to be better but feels trapped by his own inability to tell you or inability to fix the problem?”

Yes. VERY much so. And thanks for your insight. My husband has a “Gatsby Complex” (which he keeps very quiet about but I know it’s there) – ie he wants to give me ‘the world’ (when I met him, he called me his Princess) and when he can’t give me EVERYTHING (health, a palace, non-stop happiness) he curls up in a ball and freaks out.

GeminiResistingVirgo
GeminiResistingVirgo
June 21, 2014 7:41 am
Reply to  Mrs. Gemini

Good luck with everything Mrs G! I hope this all works out for everyone’s highest good. And I’m glad I could help even a tiny bit with my minor story…nothing compared to what you’re dealing with.

Also I love the notion of a ‘Gatsby complex’. So descriptive. I think we all know a few men like that…

meohmy
meohmy
June 20, 2014 3:38 pm

Love Virgo Men. And this seems very not Virgo male. Usually they are very nurturing, attentive, caring, good on communication and entertaining.

Check what his ascendant is.

And maybe have spare rooms, and see each other when you want to, rather than out of habit.

Maybe you’v forgotten what normal is and he’s worn down. Seems like a lot of expectation and disappointment and there’s only so many words that can be spoken and only so much talking can do.

Take a break and a regroup I’d say.

Pi
Pi
June 20, 2014 1:18 pm

I have to admit, Mrs Gemini you sort of lost me at ‘screaming monologue … 1.5 hours’. What were you expecting out of that?

Pi
Pi
June 20, 2014 1:23 pm
Reply to  Pi

Having said this I do get that you might have been trying to get some kind, any kind, of response from him. It just seems like a very difficult way to get it, to have your needs met.xx

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 20, 2014 3:36 pm
Reply to  Pi

I agree. Screaming monologue for 1.5 hours.
Yuck.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 20, 2014 3:43 pm
Reply to  Anonymous

And comparing his level of nurturing to your mother’s ?? Who does that?
It sounds like you’re having a tantrum and he has no idea what to do.

Pi
Pi
June 20, 2014 8:24 pm
Reply to  Anonymous

important not to throw the baby out with the bathwater Anon, hence my follow up comment where i had tried to consider what leads a person up to that point..

Pegasus
Pegasus
June 20, 2014 11:06 am

Men get frustrated when they can’t fix things and have found them queasy about physiology. A problem presented to him that he cannot solve. Most of you know i am not partial to Virgo men that i have known because have found an arrogance toward women, a propensity for ‘denial’ and reaction vis a vis response. Love that Marilyn Monroe quote. Anyways i just wish every one radiant health as it is our first wealth and one can become so blue when unwell. Deep down it is a sign of change needed and yes, what is happening in your own… Read more »

davidl
davidl
June 20, 2014 8:40 am

I don’t think this is an astro issue. A lot of men have no idea how to cope with illness in themselves or others. Men like to fix things, he can’t fix you and has disconnected from the situation. Just keep in mind that 3 years of chronic illness is a heavy burden on any relationship, with the care and focus on one of the partners. He feels a bit hopeless and possibly uncared for himself, with his problems probably coming down the list. Give him some attention, give him his quiet time, and if he’s real he will come… Read more »

hdq
hdq
June 20, 2014 7:57 am

If you no longer like the way he smells (or doesn’t), the marriage is clearly over. If he “tests” your illness by poisoning you, the marriage is clearly over. What percentage of your desire to make this work is loyalty, and what percentage is (understandably) fear of being alone with a chronic illness? The advice above about the stress of the relationship causing or exacerbating your condition is very apt, I think. Also, I am a 5x gem without a stitch of Virgo, but as I read your letter I have to admit I empathized with your husband. I do… Read more »

Mrs Gemini
Mrs Gemini
June 20, 2014 8:40 am
Reply to  hdq

Just as an aside, I love the way he smells or doesn’t smell 😉 What I meant by that paragraph is that his composure is such a contrast to me. In my eyes he really is so “perfect” and pulled-together all the time… and I feel anything but. I am quite openly flawed and I feel like a dirty sick person in contrast to him.

Phew, that sounds like a downer huh? Paging Dr. Phil.

Sphinx
Sphinx
June 20, 2014 9:42 am
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

Darling Mrs Gem, “I am quite openly flawed and I feel like a dirty sick person in contrast to him” is a concerning statement. May I suggest you have done very well to survive as long as you have with this Robot? He has undermined you and made you feel so much less than you are. This is what bullies do. And mutable bullies are the most difficult to deal with. I grew up with the family dynamic you describe above. Believe me when I say this could possibly get more serious. My mother made the decision to stay with… Read more »

Sphinx
Sphinx
June 20, 2014 9:55 am
Reply to  Sphinx

Also the mutable bully is particularly good at being in ways that escape detection or are passive threats. Like making it clear they might leave IF.., making distasteful faces when you are distressed, withholding approval, love and understanding as way to punish you, minimising and denying your problems or blaming you for them, or just emotionally humiliating you. If any of these things ring true then Virgo Robot is failing as a husband, even as a friend and most certainly is failing all Three Laws of Robotics (A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot
June 20, 2014 2:42 pm
Reply to  Sphinx

“Three Laws of Robotics”

<3 😀

Sphinx
Sphinx
June 20, 2014 5:37 pm
Reply to  Scorpbot

he he had to go there.. 😉

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.
June 20, 2014 10:25 am
Reply to  Sphinx

Yes! Geez, your mom’s story is hideous… and so appropriate here. Sage Sphinx x

Sphinxt
Sphinxt
June 20, 2014 12:03 pm

Yeah, hideous and insidious! Just grinds a person down quietly over time. Add any other stress (physical/mental/emo) to such a sitch and it can be very difficult to escape.

catfish moon
catfish moon
June 20, 2014 2:50 pm
Reply to  Sphinx

Thank you. You have said what I was thinking.

catfish moon
catfish moon
June 20, 2014 2:48 pm
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

UGH! I USE to feel that way about my ex hubby multi scorpio….he was perfect and I was so flawed. But after many many years I changed. He was flawed, refused to see it or admit it. I was flawed and accepted it as who I was.

NO ONE is perfect. Can you live with him, are you truly compatible, are you happy?

Virgo Sabs
Virgo Sabs
June 20, 2014 5:53 am

Hi everyone! I’ve been stalking around here for awhile, but have never commented….. until now! So, I’m a virgo and I’m hoping I can provide some insight as I’m both confused about this, but also kind of understand it IF I’m interpreting correctly. About the robot thing: I am accused of being a robot all the time by my family… but it’s only when they want something from me. I am actually deeply, deeply emotional and sensitive, I am just very select on who I show that to. I don’t show it to my family because they stress me the… Read more »

Mrs Gemini
Mrs Gemini
June 20, 2014 6:22 am
Reply to  Virgo Sabs

Virgo, thanks for your insight. What you’re saying really makes sense and I think my husband is the same. When someone is “cold” it is not to say they are cold, on the contrary they probably feel things very deeply so, sometimes need to step back. Sometimes, it’s these people who actually need some love and support, but they are too selfless to ask. This might make them seem “withdrawn” when really they’re trying to do the right thing by everyone. I can only imagine how hard it must be to have a spouse who is unwell, or requires extra… Read more »

Virgo Sabs
Virgo Sabs
June 20, 2014 8:32 am
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

I just want to re-iterate that this is in no way ‘letting him off the hook’ or anything like that. On the contrary, my ability to withdraw from loved ones and not be there when they need me, I consider a huge flaw on my end. It is something I am really struggling to change. I just wanted to explain, in hopes that it would help bring a sense of understanding on what’s possibly going on with him right now on the inside. Spouses get sick, people lose jobs, things fall apart, that’s life. I want to be able to… Read more »

Sway
Sway
June 20, 2014 11:10 am
Reply to  Virgo Sabs

I honestly agree with you a hundred percent. I’m a Virgo that’s always stressed out. So I don’t need any other triggers to push me over the edge. I have a bad time handling stress. My family the most gets on my nerves, I have a sister who’s a “Gemini” who loves to argue and belittle me. Every opinion I have she has a counter point or opinion. Another sister who I do get along well with, won’t step in or take any sides. Friends and family seem to take my help,consideration, and understanding to help, for granted. Which after… Read more »

Earthparty
Earthparty
June 20, 2014 4:38 am

To add some double cap realness here – using astro to explain an emotionally neglectful and disengaged marriage is just more of the excuse making which probably got you into this mess – stop starving yourselves and either dig deep with mutual commited raw intense healing and discovery or cut the damn chains, your body is clearly telling you something!

erika
erika
June 20, 2014 4:26 am

As a Virgo ascendant I know we can go cold a bit when we want. Things can be very “technical” we just want to get to the point and no time to go on and on. I am also a Gemini Moon so I can very frequently be the one to go on and on. So the ex boyfriend was that way too ? well it sounds like a recurring issue presenting itself until it’s healed. Probably the wrong guy for her. It happens. You can’t change someone however you can get to the root and if he wants to… Read more »

catfish moon
catfish moon
June 20, 2014 2:30 am

I am Virgo rising with venus conjunct. I also have an autoimmune disease. My capicorn moon ex hubby was like this as well, no virgo in his chart at all.

I can deal with illness, maybe cause I have been so horribly sick at times. But I can’t deal with people who don’t try to find a solution, use their illness as a crutch, and want special favors despite their lack of taking care of themselves(my ex boyfriend ugh)
Not saying you do that.

Sounds horrible honey and we all deserve to be happy. Stress makes us sicker as well.

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus
June 20, 2014 2:07 am

Oh wow, that’s a rough situation – I’m sorry! On the face of it, there are a few things others have said that I am in agreement with – especially the ones who suggested looking carefully at the “He must take me as I am” statement and reflect back upon that to realize that you are not accepting his lack of nurturance just as much as he is not accepting your illness. It does cut both ways, unfortunately, and if you find yourselves trying to change core things about one another, it means that either your needs have changed OR… Read more »

Mrs Gemini
Mrs Gemini
June 20, 2014 6:10 am

Hi Venus, just in answer to your question. I’m extremely active in my own healing. It’s a very long story, but for a long time, I was disregarded by doctors, who couldn’t diagnose me and refused to bother testing. Over the past 2.5 years I’ve spent thousands of dollars, hours and hours of personal research and time on my own recovery. I have a specific and difficult to treat illness. My treatment requires a few hours spent on it each day 🙂 Unfortunately Mr. Virgo didn’t believe that I was sick for a long time. At many points I’ve been… Read more »

Libran Double Airhead
Libran Double Airhead
June 20, 2014 7:14 am
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

Dear Mrs Gemini, I have read this whole thread carefully. I have come back to your reply here again because what you say here makes it very clear you are not in an emotionally safe place. I am a therapist. I also have a (mild) chronic disorder and a supportive Scorp husband (a soft, gooey Scorp!). The comment earlier which suggested you should give him an ultimatum is right. Either he’s with you or he isn’t. Do you have other people in your life who are supportive? I know it’s hard to make big changes. Put the supportive structures in… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.
June 20, 2014 8:53 am
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

Omg Mrs Gemini: your medical “journey” over the last couple of years was mine over a few years; and once I *finally* found a doc who took the time to send me off for further testing & get to a right dx, I have had 4 surgeries over the past 18 months. What a nightmare to have docs not bother to test, the misdiagnoses, people thinking “it’s all in your head”, meanwhile you’re deteriorating & suffering Every Day. I have gone through it all alone, as a single mom, & while there have been times that being alone was rough,… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.
June 20, 2014 9:15 am

I’m all fired up now! If I had a sworn partner (aka husband or wife) who didnt want to “hear” about my Health, well, wtf?! Isn’t our health everything to do with whether we are alive or dead, & impacting every aspect of our lives alone & together? When my son proved to have aspergers, could I have said, “oh, I wanted to be a mom, but not of a special needs child”? Fuq no! Well, I suppose I could have: happens all the time, doesn’t it? But where’s the Love in that? Whether it’s your kid or your spouse,… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.
June 20, 2014 9:18 am

No– I would have been packing *his* last suitcase yesterday: why the fuq should you shoulder the burden of moving?! There’s the door, don’t let it hit you in the ass on the way out.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.
June 20, 2014 9:28 am

One last thought, promise:

I treat my pets better than your husband has treated you. Really.

You deserve so much more in a life partner, & just in general, you know? Strength, love & blessings to you, Mrs. x

Mrs Gemini
Mrs Gemini
June 20, 2014 10:10 am

Oh thank you for your honesty, kindness and making me laugh too 🙂

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.
June 20, 2014 10:32 am
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

Yeah you had a chuckle too? Fab! 😀 My work here is done. xx

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid
June 20, 2014 6:54 pm

Woo ! Never piss off a Scorp ! Mrs Gem, my darling now that I have read the rest of what you have said, please get rid of this arsehole. There, I’m being blunt. You cannot be serious about having children with someone who “tests” your coeliacs with breadcrumbs because he thinks you’re a liar. This is far beyond making a marriage work – you need to be with someone who isn’t actively sabotaging you. I have two children with autism. Mr Triffid is all over it like a rash, bless him. What if you have a child with special… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.
June 20, 2014 9:29 pm

Mr Triffid is such a dreamboat, Dom! Goddess bless you both 🙂

And yeah, how warped is that sabotaging shit?! Our Scorp bits won’t have such disloyalty & frenemy crap. What of the sweet, vulnerable children? Exactly.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
June 21, 2014 12:38 pm

Yes that “testing” poisoning bs made me mentally sneer at him.

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus
June 20, 2014 10:43 am
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

Well, darling, it sounds as if you have a real s#!thead on your hands, then. 🙁 Seems as if you know what you have to do (Hint: sticking around for more of the same doesn’t sound like an option) Your #1 priority is your health, and I don’t doubt that all this aggravation from him is only hindering your recovery. When one goes through a major illness, sometimes our needs do shift, and it sounds like the lack of nurturance demonstrated by your (hopefully soon-to-be-ex) husband laid his limitations as a person quite bare in the plain light of day.… Read more »

calypso
calypso
June 20, 2014 5:25 pm
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

well, I know we have limited insight here BUT, based on what we do have I would say get out before you DO have children with this guy. Things could definitely get worse, and imagining you sobbing while you grocery shop and cook for a child without a supportive partner (there or not) is just one way I can imagine that happening. In less emotional terms, I agree with all other comments on this post from the Librans and Scorp Inc.

If you prefer to convince me why you should stay, i’m all ears.

Pi
Pi
June 20, 2014 8:18 pm
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

wow. you are right. robot. if my spouse was breaking down in tears around the place, multi times, and the issue was an unknown quantity, i would freak out and get right on it. i mean, wow. I know men can be cocks (sorry men who are not cocks) about , like, normal human emotion -or health issue – that they cannot offer a one-line solution to, but fuq if you’re married to someone you kind of have to deal with this. (as in, he does).

Sphinx
Sphinx
June 19, 2014 11:52 pm

Am a bit surprised by the comments. I always find Virgos to be OCD perfectionist etc but as such earthy creatures, often good with um, the gooey humanity of the body. Like positively Germanic about checking their kid’s stool, or fiends for sex and a bit of domination play (control games). They aren’t like this with the general public of course (ick!) but I see it in close relationships. Well anyways, I think a bit of marriage or solo counselling would be great for Ms Gem. The bulk of a marriage counsellor’s work is apparently helping couples break up of… Read more »

Aries female
Aries female
June 19, 2014 10:22 pm

Virgos seem to detest any show of emotion. They cannot abide criticism.They often think they are flawless, and are fantastic at taking problems and people to pieces, in a very cutting manner. They are great systems analysts. Gemini needs to talk as much as it needs air to breathe. The two of you sound energeticall y/chemically incompatible. What is holding you together? What good connections do you have ? Are your respective Moons able to live under the same roof? Do you actually like each other ? Sounds to me like you need to nurture yourself with activities and people… Read more »

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen
June 20, 2014 4:00 am
Reply to  Aries female

Wow, Virgos are getting a bad rep in this post…you must personally dislike some Virgos. Now I’m not saying I love every Virgo I meet but there are Hi and Lo versions of every sign. I get along well with most Geminis, I really enjoy their chatter, gives me stuff to work with. They observe, they notice, they come up with the raw material, bubbling over with ideas, and Virgos can take that chatter, refine it and distill it into something beautiful. The signs are so similar and go together because of their quick minds, and their mutual love of… Read more »

erika
erika
June 20, 2014 6:10 am
Reply to  virgo kathleen

That’s a nice comment ! thank you for showing me the symbiosis with my Moon and Ascendant

funickity
funickity
June 20, 2014 8:54 am
Reply to  virgo kathleen

well said

Ariel
Ariel
June 19, 2014 10:19 pm

Dear Mrs Gemini, Until very recently I was in a live-in relationship with an Aries sun, Virgo rising. I recognise the lack of attention you’re describing here. (Also the smell. Everyone who visited remarked on how clean our flat smelt all the time, because the Virgo rising showered at least twice a day.) I wanted to slightly correct the advice of some people here. Do NOT do the Work on yourself to convince yourself to stay in a crap relationship that isn’t supporting you. If you’re sick, staying with someone who can’t care for you will rob you of the… Read more »

Ariel
Ariel
June 19, 2014 10:26 pm
Reply to  Ariel

PS I am a Gemini too (should’ve said!)

Kat
Kat
June 19, 2014 11:21 pm
Reply to  Ariel

Dear A- I find The Work helpful in peeling back layers on core beliefs- some of which are crucial to survival. The turnarounds- where you have the freedom to imagine different scenarios- can be very empowering. I agree that it can be used to justify tolerating lack of change. I don’t see it as inevitably leading to stuffing down true feelings and staying stuck no matter what. It can uncover lots of beliefs- re: worth, deserving, self-judgment. Used with kindness and brutal honesty, it can be a great Zap Zone guide. But you can’t put perfume on a pig- and… Read more »

calypso
calypso
June 20, 2014 5:29 pm
Reply to  Kat

my exes Pluto on my SN – and it is exactly as you describe Kat. If I had only 4 words to describe him they would be entitled, controlling, narcissistic, bully. You are always so on song!

ms. vervain
ms. vervain
June 19, 2014 10:07 pm

Oh my…………….. this is hard for me to understand!
Sun/Pluto in Virgo……… I NEVER shut up. Emotions? Wear them on my sleeve…… Plutoboy, are you there? Will you corroborate? 😉

Plutoboy
Plutoboy
June 19, 2014 10:48 pm
Reply to  ms. vervain

Yup. Plutogirl is a veritable fountain of brilliant verbosity, and with our Mercs conjunct, well, it works.
No emotions? That’s my department, certainly not Ms. Virgo. I find them such a distraction sometimes, not feelings, but that violent emotional wind stuff, you know…….

Feels like Mystic nailed it. I have no idea, really, don’t know these folks. But either you can support your partner and communicate effectively, or not. Fuck the sun sign, it’s in or out these days.

ms. vervain
ms. vervain
June 19, 2014 11:35 pm
Reply to  Plutoboy

Maybe we should look more to Mr. Virgo Robot’s rising sign and/or moon? I’m definitely a Virgo sun, but have an embarrassingly dramatic Leo moon with Aqua rising…….

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen
June 20, 2014 3:42 am
Reply to  ms. vervain

Yes I too am a virgo who wears my emotions on my sleeve…I have cancer rising which is undoubtably part of that. I usually associate lack of emotions with air. I think earthy types have emotions but can have trouble expressing them. I tend to keep things to myself but people can always tell how I feel by just…looking at my face, haha. If I had a partner who talked non-stop about a gastrointestinal disorder I’d kinda be put off too. I actually have digestive troubles (I think it’s kind of a virgo thing, isn’t virgo linked to digestion?) but… Read more »

Quadrupled
Quadrupled
June 19, 2014 8:49 pm

Mrs Gemini, wow! Your story reminds me my ex-husband. Sorry to read what you have been through. My best friends are Virgos, but as a partner, I can’t get along with a Virgo *shudder at memories* I too had a serious health problem, unable to pick myself up and years later I found an entry in my journal “it has been three days since the diagnosis, and today he screamed at me “stop crying”” I don’t know why a Virgo can behave like an insensitive jerk. But what I learned is when it comes to health problems, it is hard… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
June 19, 2014 6:46 pm

You poor lamb! Health issues can in any case really highlight quite painfully who is there to support us and which relationships have faultlines. I saw your scenario in these terms before any of the astro issues. Which immediately suggests to me that this is a relationship in crisis. Virgos also can be quick to point out where you personally contribute to your health issues, as it’s the first area they look to in fixing a problem. Annoying but essentially practical. Your partner cannot see a solution immediately apparent. And the your-problem-is-our-problem of a supportive partnership seems too overwhelming for… Read more »

piscorp
piscorp
June 20, 2014 11:22 am
Reply to  milleunanotte

Exactly… men generally are upset when a problem cannot be fixed, they feel deeply uncomfortable and don’t understand how simply talking through a problem and merely being there is enough. You can only talk to friends, family or a professional if you need to. Your loved one wants to see you happy and well and your problems are his problems. Sit down and say how you don’t expect him to fix your health issue but just a little understanding would go a long way.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
June 21, 2014 12:13 pm
Reply to  piscorp

Kind of but it’s a relationship and i don’t think saying “men do this, men don’t do that” is either true or useful because you have a relationship with an individual not a stereotype. If i can only really communicate with friends fam et al and not with my partner that is not a relationship. It’s babysitting.

They both need to communicate better and differently.

Either to manage the illness and its attendant issues within a relationship, or to dissolve the relationship and for her to start communicating with self and needs more clearly to find wellness.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
June 21, 2014 12:29 pm
Reply to  piscorp

What i’m saying is communication is essential. If i was crying during the grocery shopping and in the kitchen i would realise two things: (1) i need to get myself back on track and work out what is really going on and (2) i’m seriously lonely and not being listened to or helped in my hour of need (public crying is a cry for support and attention). I think Mrs Gemini is not really listening to herself either. She actually knows the answer but it is quite scary.

funickity
funickity
June 19, 2014 6:23 pm

uh oh, Virgo here with the Gemini hubby. Yes I admit to the word fatigue regarding partner needing to debrief about their health issues. That’s why (in my case) AA has been a life saver!! Somewhere to go and have a geminian wordfest. We were in a similar Empire crumbling state once, we have had a very colourful and feisty journey, 22 years later we are sickeningly in love, can you believe it, after 4 kids, a simultaneous Uranus opposition and Saturn return, recovering now from a big bad party and loving the quiet life. A friend once said to… Read more »

electric eel libran
electric eel libran
June 19, 2014 2:41 pm

wow. It’s funny because I actually think a lot of Virgo men smell bad even when I’m attracted to them. Ive got venus in virgo and have dated my share. Granted, they do bathe and their hygiene is good but the funk comes from their internal flora. To me. most Virgo men smell like yeast. But i guess a lot of people might think someone who smells like beer or yeast rolls smells “good”. not me tho. Men aren’t supposed to smell like a hygienic snatch. It’s just wrong. Virgo man doesnt want to compete with you on who suffers… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi
June 19, 2014 4:24 pm

Agree. Totes. 😀

A Virgo
A Virgo
June 19, 2014 2:22 pm

I became very sick several years into my marriage. Watched my Sag husband turn and leave to go out with friends while I could barely get vertical. There was nothing in his eyes but disdain. It is a hard uphill road, but kindness and quiet touch can do much to diffuse anger and distance. Also, I should have sought therapy much sooner than I did, it might have helped right my personal situation before it collectively spiraled out of control. Since it is a Pisces moon, I offer this link, a really good indie flick about distance between a couple… Read more »

electric eel libran
electric eel libran
June 19, 2014 2:45 pm
Reply to  A Virgo

i was reading some horrible statistic about how a majority of men will abandon their wives when they get sick with cancer but women will stay with their sick husbands. so much for until death do u part.

A Virgo
A Virgo
June 19, 2014 4:17 pm

I believe it.
An old friend said of his wife’s troubles, “I didn’t sign up for this.”
Excuse me, what ? Obviously you did having exchanged the vows. !?
People grow and change, it’s just a question of daily commitment / working the terms of the treaty.
Savvy MM quote, always loved that one…

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo
June 19, 2014 9:12 pm

Happened with my husband. I was sick and he didn’t know what to do so he avoided me as much as possible. He’s a Leo

Ms.
Ms.
June 20, 2014 12:38 am

obviously no one wants their partner to be ill but its like, well what if you were sick?? would you expect me to stay? of course you fucking would.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie
June 19, 2014 9:36 pm
Reply to  A Virgo

This is why I am afraid to get into a relationship. Can they handle my illness. When I had an insulin reaction while I was with the toro/gem, he handled it, but then he retreated. We still hung out together after that but looking back.. even though he is a cop, I don’t think he could handle it any further.

Mrs Gemini
Mrs Gemini
June 19, 2014 1:39 pm

P.S – and don’t get me wrong I do LOVE Virgos. I’m always instantly drawn to them. And my Virgo mother is a very pulled together woman but so loving and warm.

I think it’s an opposites attract thing.

Thanks for the support everyone.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie
June 19, 2014 9:34 pm
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

Yes, I agree with that. It’s challenging for us! The opposite attraction thing. It helps us to understand something about ourselves more.

zentriplet
zentriplet
June 19, 2014 1:36 pm

Dear Mrs Gemini, I support Mystic’s take re the ‘zombie marriage’ and see this behaviour (yours and his) being less about Gemini-Virgo than about two people unable to truly commune with each other. My Aquarian husband prefers to talk less and emote less than I do as a Gemini woman. He teaches me to listen more deeply and I encourage him to share his feelings with me. Each of us realising that we are not here to change the other, or to ‘make’ each other happy. Your body has been trying to tell you something for a long time. Are… Read more »

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
June 19, 2014 1:28 pm

Well I am a Virgo and I talk a LOT. So do a lot of Virgos I know.

If this person can’t handle your illness or your talking, they sound like they need to sort out their priorities.

abouttendays
abouttendays
June 19, 2014 1:14 pm

All the male Virgoans/Virgonians l know are just as this delightful Gemini describes – so dull they dont even smell. Whatever theyre putting into our food and water supplies these days to keep us docile and controlled – the male Virgonians are taking double doses

Kat
Kat
June 19, 2014 12:55 pm

Hmnn- Pisces Mars sounds familiar- very unmotivated to help others unless there’s lots of applause. My spouse has Mercury in Virgo- Moon Mars in Pisces and Venus in Kataka. He cooks- amazing food. That’s how he shows concern/love/appreciation. No overt concern for our immediate family re- illness. But gets all weepy over movies etc. Shows way more concern for friends, clients/distant peeps.

Hope you heal, Mrs. Gem! Recommend Carolyn Myss and Byron Katie for healing/identifying stories and core issues.

Kat

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid
June 19, 2014 1:12 pm
Reply to  Kat

Yep. Byron Katie can fix just about anything except a gut wound…

LeoEscapeArtist
LeoEscapeArtist
June 19, 2014 11:50 am

off topic…yes.no.maybe…
that pic is so Queen of Swords…love it!

Baristagem
Baristagem
June 19, 2014 11:41 am

😯 That’s a horrible situation & you certainly don’t need to feel anything other than being loved & cared for when going through the perils of a chronic condition. I sometimes wonder when a scenario such as this is introduced into a relationship that it’s like a test of faith & if the love between you both can be sustained. Without going into too much detail I was diagnosed with a serious condition a few years ago & my partner & I immediately went into auto pilot, work, treatment, work, treatment etc. There was so much uncertainty- when would I… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
June 19, 2014 6:49 pm
Reply to  Baristagem

B-Gem you’re usually so brief, i was surprised…but every word is so on point, of course. Clarity here, folks!

Ms.
Ms.
June 20, 2014 12:33 am
Reply to  Baristagem

Brilliant response

and I hope you are recovering well xx

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 20, 2014 7:09 am
Reply to  Baristagem

AS a Virgo I get grossed out about bodily functions easily. It’s a major turn-off. 🙁
I wish I wasn’t so sensitive to it but I am.

Mrs Gemini
Mrs Gemini
June 20, 2014 10:13 am
Reply to  Baristagem

Thanks Barista, this is SO insightful x

Mrs Gemini
Mrs Gemini
June 19, 2014 11:36 am

Everyone, I’m really loving your responses and helpful suggestions. Just comparing our charts, I realised I’m Mars in Pisces and he’s Mars (and Neptune, and Uranus) in Sagittarius. He’s also Mercury in Virgo and Virgo rising. He has Venus in Libra and indeed when times are good he is extremely loving (it’s what attracted me to him initially) and selfless. But at the first sign of stress he’s literally “outta here” mentally. Avoidance is his number 1 stress-coping technique while mine is “muck in”. I’ve been told by many friends to leave him. It’s a challenge, and I do believe… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 19, 2014 12:15 pm
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

A loved one should treat you well no matter how much self-respect you have. Period.

Best of luck to you, Gem.

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo
June 19, 2014 12:43 pm
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

I used to get sick every time I saw my husband in the kitchen toward the end of our marriage as that was one of the few spots we saw each other by then. Feeling constantly judged by someone can make you sick. Really sick. Physical sick. You can’t earn love.. This isn’t even an astro question. It’s a question of when you’re going to deal with the fact you’re stuck in a shitty relationship and not be co-dependent mental airy-fairy about the obvious – time to jet. But – whatever – Venus in libra and blah blah blah. I… Read more »

Charles
Charles
June 19, 2014 1:32 pm
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

Mrs Gemini, you say he must take you as you are. OK, which one of you is the you he must take?

oneofthepossums
oneofthepossums
June 19, 2014 2:52 pm
Reply to  Charles

and if he must take you as you are then is this reciprocated? Doesn’t seem so. Don’t get me wring- it seems like he’s behaving like a brat. I’m a virgo and I can’t imagine being so cold and callus towards anyone who is suffering… but, thinking about this possible scenario… have you been leaning on him with this for a while? Are you taking care of it or are you just expecting him to man-up and help you fix it? I think it’s really easy to look to other people when things are going wrong (in any area- your… Read more »

Sphinx
Sphinx
June 19, 2014 11:57 pm
Reply to  Mrs Gemini

If he has Pisces DC, & you have Pisces Mars, I guess the quality of your vibrant, water Mars energy is what drew him in? This must be a challenge for him more than others then to see what he loved about you depleted?

veritas9
veritas9
June 19, 2014 11:26 am

I’m Gemini rising all over the place with sun in Aries. Shackled to Marvin the Paranoid Android (Mr Virgo) for 15 years. We never, never talk about anything biological (I’m kind of OK with that) and a strong disclosure might be along the lines of ‘I have an upset stomach’. He is fine to help so long as we don’t discuss details and I keep symptoms under wraps as much as possible. I am grafeful for the fact that he doesn’t regard farting spectator sport so it cuts both ways. So, yeah, this is the factory setting and you will… Read more »

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid
June 19, 2014 11:10 am

I have a Stellium in my third house, ruled by Gemini, and I am married to a Virgo/Taurus/Cancer, so I do understand a little of your pain. I have a chronic autoimmune endocrine disorder. When it first reared its ugly head, my darling said to me “I am sick of your problems, I just don’t want to hear about them”. I lost my shit. obviously. When I had calmed down, I told him this: “We married for better and for worse. This is worse. If you don’t stand by me and help me, when I need you to, then we… Read more »

Aries gal
Aries gal
June 19, 2014 1:09 pm

Ahhhaaa!! Great post I completely agree This is how it is I am sick you either support me or it is over Over is such harsh word I think moving forward without each other sounds better Funny I had the similar situation with an ex It was a really effed relationship I had what I thought a pinched nerve in my neck it was extremely painful We eventually after 2 years of back and forth moved on properly The back pain so full on suddenly went away Lots of Saturn energy in our composite charts My moon Capricorn conjunction his… Read more »

MsHelloVirgo
MsHelloVirgo
June 19, 2014 11:59 pm
Reply to  Aries gal

I had a similar situation with an ex. I had terrible rash on the palms of my hands, for years, off and on. We broke up, and within two weeks, the rash was gone. BTW, am now married to a Gemini, I’m a Virgo, and we often are that erudite cool couple Mystic describes.

Aries. Gal
Aries. Gal
June 20, 2014 7:31 pm
Reply to  MsHelloVirgo

Haha it’s funny how sometimes it really is the effect that person has on you that is causing you the pain
You can’t figure out suddenly why your reacting in such a way
But your body is screaming at you telling you “I’m going to hurt you until you let go of this ma f*kr

Wildwood
Wildwood
June 19, 2014 7:31 pm

Ah… much as I was cringing a bit reading that DT, the experience of your friend very much mirrors mine. I was miserable, unhealthy, overweight, depressed… and putting all my energy into a waste of time relationship and a waste of time person who wouldn’t help me when I needed it. Finally (after several weeks of counselling) he just smashed the shit out of our relationship. It was pretty horrible, but after several months of painful emotional turmoil I feel fuqing GREAT, I’ve lost weight, gained muscle, am eating well, not drinking too much, and feel clear and confident in… Read more »

LotusFlower
LotusFlower
June 24, 2014 8:21 am
Reply to  Wildwood

Well done for getting through all of that shit, Wildwood. It’s good that you can feel grateful for it all now.. hard lessons to have to live through. Onwards and upwards x

MiM
MiM
June 19, 2014 8:09 pm

Love this post DT. My sister had similar situation. She had depression. Her husband could not understand why and was being one unsupportive asshole. Eventually they split, and it wasn’t long for my sister’s depression to lift. She is most vibrant post-divorce than she’s ever been. She is Aries Sun; he Cap Sun. I know I will cop a lot of flak for this, but if there’s one ‘golden rule’ for me re: astro and marriage (or long-term relationships), it’s that you should be sure that yr sun signs are compatible – e.g. if you are: Water sun sign: choose… Read more »

electric eel libran
electric eel libran
June 19, 2014 10:41 pm
Reply to  MiM

works for Helena bonham carter and tim burton!

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo
June 20, 2014 5:49 am
Reply to  MiM

I agree with this. I think sun/sun synastry is important. I was thinking that when reading the Quadruple Taurus astro query about the Lower Leo.

catfish moon
catfish moon
June 20, 2014 2:56 pm
Reply to  MiM

I have stuck to this, though not on purpose. So yes, agree.
But one successful Scorpio was followed by one horrid Scorpio, so other factors are so important.
Now my love who I am so happy with is a Taurus. Love him beyond the moon.

Ms.
Ms.
June 20, 2014 12:27 am

Very beautifully put. I am sorry to hear you have a chronic condition also I serially have had chronic health that I have only just gotten out of but I also had some issues with much younger. My family were very unsupportive and very much like the above in almost allergic to my then very serious health problems When I have encountered partners that have had any issue with this, I turf them almost immediately as I could not bare to be with anyone who did not want to love me when I am sick, because I already know how… Read more »

calypso
calypso
June 20, 2014 5:34 pm
Reply to  Ms.

you have overcome your health problems Ms? That’s fantastic news!

Ms.
Ms.
June 20, 2014 7:33 pm
Reply to  calypso

It’s on going maintenance but I seem to be passed the half way mark now. May I add, I had to walk on 2 potential relationships that were not supportive and spent a good part of a year with failing immunity, the following year crashing in and out of that, on my own. No support. I chose that space over being berated. With no money. In a foreign country. Yes, you can.

Ms.
Ms.
June 20, 2014 7:48 pm
Reply to  Ms.

There were patches actually but nothing quite emotional. Didn’t mean this to sound victimized, rather even at life’s worst, we still have options to grow x

LotusFlower
LotusFlower
June 24, 2014 8:25 am
Reply to  Ms.

Wow, sounds like you have been so strong.. amazing Ms. And when you were ill too? Sheesh. I hear you with giving the marching orders to those who cannot support you when you are at your weakest. It totally shows their character up. No compassion, then no respect from me I’m afraid.

Glad you are starting to get better too – yehah! Hope you have something good planned to look forward to when you feel well enough x

Ms.
Ms.
June 20, 2014 7:37 pm
Reply to  calypso

And thanks pea. I’m just starting to get my swing back. Good luck to everyone who is having health problems, and to those who lack compassion towards anothers health, this can happen to you and then what would you do?

serenity
serenity
June 20, 2014 5:58 am

I agree with this post. He may be the cause of your stress. Suggestions on this post is right on. Gemini would need to figure out what to do to make this less hard to separate. The Virgo just doesn’t care. It’s hard to acknowledge and accept that, but based on behaviors — it appears he truly doesn’t care. A virgo is very capable of caring and being supportive. This virgo is not, or at least not to you. Again, hard to accept. Good luck, and I hope you gain your inner strength to decide what’s best for you, without… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 20, 2014 11:56 am
Reply to  serenity

Kimi virgo

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 20, 2014 12:01 pm
Reply to  Anonymous

Your tongue is the strongest muscle you have.. Use it wisely- not to pollute the air with nonsense noise. Gastro problems mean you have problems taking in and letting go of shit- but keep it to yourself– I personally listen to the things people say and think why are you even talking?

Pi
Pi
June 20, 2014 8:05 pm
Reply to  Anonymous

well, when it is one’s spouse or significant other, or a loved one, i think it is essential to need to have the opportunity to have a safe space to try to work out what is going on with your body. After all what happens to our body in a partnership, ultimately directly affects the partnership. Personally, for me, I have an aversion to sharing certain details about my health with someone close to me that would not be more productively discussed or analysed with a doctor e.g. when I was suffering from a late onset GI problem. Now that… Read more »

Pi
Pi
June 20, 2014 8:10 pm
Reply to  Pi

(or make them listen if they show no desire to do so… ) x

moonstark
moonstark
June 20, 2014 3:11 pm

agreeing with this!

S
S
June 20, 2014 8:18 pm

@ DT Thank you for your story. Totally agree with you.
All the negative relationships I’ve had have been with Air Sun Signs. When sicken was an issue, the relationship eroded. I was there for their illnesses but it was not reciprocated. Good learning curve.
Generally speaking the Sun compatibility is a good indicator.

toroloco
toroloco
June 19, 2014 11:09 am

A lot of Virgos I know are like this, actually. Especially with Venus in Leo or Libra. Narcissistic. It’s very subtle but a lotof Virgos have that streak. (I think my Mars-Rising in Pisces brings it out fast in them, hence why I notice it…)

Gem, are you sure he called you, your illness, or your behavior “off-putting”? Either way, this does seem LZ afflicted. Guess it depends on how long you’ve been married, but anyone who claims to love you would never dismiss your problems. You can do better, girl.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie
June 19, 2014 11:05 am

Hi Mrs. Gemini.. I am a Virgo Sun. I am very similar to your man. I am sorry to admit it. But I have to ask.. when he says “I wish you would stop talking”.. is he referring to you talking about your GI problem? If so, then I can totally understand. I use to be that way where I would talk about my condition constantly and people just didn’t want to be around me. I had to figure out what to do to make my condition get better or clear it up. It’s kinda of like beating a dead… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 20, 2014 6:11 am
Reply to  Virgo Ellie

As a Virgo I cannot stand constant chatter. Maybe you should heed his request for some silence?

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 20, 2014 1:33 pm
Reply to  Anonymous

Well I’m a gemini and there is no way I would talk / conduct a monologue for an hour and a half whilst in bed. Pretty overwhelming for the other person. I understand that you are sick, but you are also spinning out of control. Understandable, of course. As for putting breadcrumbs in your food. Sounds like he is fairly suspicious. Would probably feel more comfortable with a broken arm than something as nebulous as digestive issues. Figure out why you are sick. Not, my gut is not working let me see a specialist, but why you are really sick.… Read more »

Virgo Jables
Virgo Jables
June 20, 2014 10:11 am
Reply to  Virgo Ellie

I’m starting to realize that there are Virgos out there that eventually get rundown from repetition of something. When the conversation is consistently one thing, it doesn’t stimulate the Virgo’s dynamic, so we end up growing more and more silent. And instead of risking social disharmony, we hold our tongue. ^ Although this approach is beneficial in many situations, one of the things that I feel is necessary for the well-being of self and others is that a Virgo needs to allow for some transparency. Not an utter betrayal of a habit in temperance, but show some humanity. I remember… Read more »

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