South Node Love Interests Should Come With A Karmic Health Warning

James Reka

I know you, I walked with you once upon a dream
I know you, that look in your eyes is so familiar a gleam
And I know it’s true that visions are seldom all they seem
But if I know you, I know what you’ll do
You’ll love me at once, the way you did once upon a dream

 

Once Upon A Dream

Nothing does an honestly what the fuq job one your psyche like encountering a love/lust interest with some strong South Node synastry going on.  Especially if it is Moon or Venus on a South Node. Even more so if it’s mutual. Their South Node on your Moon. Your South Node on their whatever.

Many of the most battiest (in hindsight) Love Zombie episodes are driven by just such intense South Node synergy. The attraction is molecular. Your soul wakes up. It’s so familiar. So poignant. So ‘it’s already happened.

But as you know, i think whining “it’s karmic” is just as naff as “it’s complicated” and i don’t care if their South Node is in your bathroom cupboard, South Node attractions are no excuse for a Love Zombie bender. In fact, you would argue that the attraction is downright dodgy.  I mean, should you BE with someone just because it’s something carried over from a previous existence?

An ex is an ex. Maybe what want down in the Byzantine Era should stay in the Byzantine (or whatever) you know? These South Node love affairs have a high chance of creating a massive and productive disrupt but not necessarily turning into viable affairs. For that sort of thing, you look more to the North Node and/or the Composite North Node – your charts blended together.

But it’s true – the South Node attractions are ludicrously spell-binding, instant and intense. The What Was Our Past Life Together? question is the second most hit upon in the Oracle.

If you’ve ever had one of those instant recognition w.t.f type things, look to the South Node. It’s not actually shown in the Astrodienst birth charts but it is the exact opposite of the North Node, which IS shown and looks like this.

I am going to include some of this in my next D.I.Y. Astro Hacks Mp3 – Timing Love – but in the meantime, have some fun with this.

But hey, if i hear one person whining “it’s karmic” to justify their soul-destroying/self-esteem eroding involvement in a totally non-reciprocal “romance” – i am sending the Love Zombie Squad around. You won’t believe the rehab.

north-node-glyph

 

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Anna
Anna

My husband’s Moon and Venus conjunct my Moon and South Node. These four are all within a very few degrees and they all conjunct each other. Oh and they are all in Leo! 🦁 My husband has always been attracted to Leo type of women (we are talking about Moon and Venus in Leo after all) and I’m definitely a Leo type of woman with my Moon, South Node, and Jupiter (not part of the conjunction) being there. Our relationship developed rather quickly, we got engaged 6 month after having met and married in another 10 months. We have been… Read more »

lindapetersMM Member
lindapeters

So, so true! Use all your willpower. Look at them and say “I know you”. Smile and walk away…run away if needs be. Use all your willpower, especially if Saturn is involved with the nodes in synastry. I wish I’d taken astrology more seriously during my life.

EZ B
EZ B

Well, I think the intensity and venue of what goes on at feelings and such depends on the sign and element. I’m already highly emotional, but having a progressed moon in cancer much leds an applicable moon on to an S.O.’s SN, yes, it is draining. I’ve been in a love relationship for the past 7 years and I noticed that I really started to miss him, and my need for love protection, communication and affection really hiked up. We cooked even more together. I also felt more domestic LOL, I just wanted to stay home! Rather than get unrealistically… Read more »

BLISS WITCHMM Member
BLISS WITCH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grJMal8W6z8

God… am on a synastry chart bender, et voila, there is my Eros on my love zombie crush’s south node. In Scorpio.

Dee Rah
Dee Rah

My husband Passed away young. we were together for a total of 3 years.. married for only 1 year. it was instant attraction. his south node on my venus and my south node on his venus. He died quickly and I was there and couldn’t do anything to help him. I love him so much. even his last words to me were I love you. I keep wishing for God to give me my death soon so i can be with him once again. He is my life my soul.. my heart. I know suicide is a sin, but i’ve… Read more »

sunsagscorpascMM Member
sunsagscorpasc

HI Dee, I have no words that can help you but I want to send loving thoughts to you. I’ve had a south node relationship that was profound and I understand how it touches us at our deepest soul. xox

Lisa
Lisa

My husband also passed away last year and we were together for 22 years. My soul mate. He was killed in an accident. I’m still grieving. Please give yourself time. Know that he wants you to be happy. I know how hard it is, I havent slept in a year and I dream about him all the time. He spirit is close to you I promise that. Because he loves you he wants you to be happy and well. Remind yourself of that. I have to daily.

AriesMoonMM Member
AriesMoon

This explains so much. My ex had his nodal axis forming a grand cross with my Venus & moon. So on-off, we both knew it wouldn’t work and yet were compulsivey drawn into the game. It’s funny because in my love zombie state I totally missed this little piece of synastry, although I must have looked at the chart a dozen times. Guess we don’t see the truth till we are ready to face it!

perfectPisces
perfectPisces

idk mystic. i am dating a pisces guy so we’re giving this thing a chance after he said we need to work on ourselves. i wonder if i believe him or think it’s just as good of an idea?

Water Pig
Water Pig

Last year one of the LZ strategies Mystic gave me was to try network care (chiropractic). People struggling with this- it might help. I have SN conjunct neptune in saggitarius in 5th opposing NN conjunct venus in gemini in 11th. That’s a lifelong LZ alert. Painful, too.

We have to do baristagem’s t-shirt and it has to have the amazed emoticon on the back. Those who are stronger must help, please.

calypso
calypso

hey what about grrlfriends and SN conjunctions?

my friend has her SN on my Lilith, her NN is on my Mars…

S
S

Good point CS.
Your second best sheets are going to net me a packet $$$ Calypso’s Sexy Seconds – Lived in and Loved Linen. x

calypso
calypso

where his Venus met her North node….

lol 🙂

S
S

Can’t help but think there is a song forming here CS…Venus As A Boy

Invictus
Invictus

As if insomnia and overdosing on ice cream aren’t bad enough. I am now locked out of the oracle and the tarot and I’m a muse. Site says I’m logged in but when I click on new blog post or scheduler it says I have to long in again and then again and again. Seems specific to my iPad cuz it wasn’t happening on my phone. Fuq this eclipse on my Chiron. I’m so over it all now. I want sleep. And company. Even virtually! 🙁

Sphinx
Sphinx

Hellloooo!

calypso
calypso

hello! I just got back from the market where I bought 5 types of icecream (I wish I was joking). my body is expelling all it is done with, sore mouth, sore throat, sore head, early visit from Aunt Flow. the eclipse was in my solar 12th and all I want to do is hibernate. I feel it achieved whatever it was meant to but I can;t see it and that’s OK. Bring on the next thing, the cross. I’m ready but not in an Invictus roar way, in a Toro take a tub of icecream to bed until I… Read more »

S
S

Sista I got the sore throat too. I blame this Virgo/ Libra Luna cleanfest. Almost killed the machine… 😉

calypso
calypso

I think I’m tapped into Venus trining Jupes in Cancer – back to bed with some frozen moo juice.

S
S

Note to Zap Zone washing machine…mess with me and get stuck in a lockdown countdown, I’ll loop the Grand Cardinal Cross up your yin yang.
Frozen Moo juice in bed CS…don’t get all Toro with the linen tho 😉

calypso
calypso

they are my best sheets. I’ll leave my second best sheets to you in my will 😉

S
S

My Toro sheets comments was for Charles…bite 😉
Sloppy seconds not my style but I’ll sell them on EBay $$$ x

calypso
calypso

don;t scratch it up with my toeclaws you mean? lol. Look, I think if Shakespeare’s second best bed was good enough for his wife then my second best sheets should be good enough for anyone 😉

S
S

It should be noted though that a serious outbreak of typhus, known as the “new fever”, in 1616 (the year Shakespeare died).

Invictus
Invictus

I’m getting this weird insomnia lately. I fall asleep ok but wake up after 3 hours WIDE AWAKE
There is a tub of ice cream in the freezer with has it’s south node on my stomach and my Venus on it’s frozen core.
And I wonder why I’m getting so well rounded these days….

dia.astro
dia.astro

His lunar nodes=my MC/IC, exactly 8 pisces/virgo his south node is on my midheaven.

My north node= his Mars/Hekate, my south node= his Psyche and Eros.

dia.astro
dia.astro

Mystic I came back to let you know that since you posted this, we broke up. Right on cue. And your scopes for easter weekend are mind blowing. <3 <3

Aubyanne the Astrologer
Aubyanne the Astrologer

SNODE=PSYCHE/EROS is seriously the worst mindgame. Add in SNODE=VENUS/MARS just for thrills, and, for him — SNODE=MOON/MARS.

13 years of on-again/off-again insanity — bursts of moments it seemed to be heading somewhere, followed by years of the exact opposite. Sound and fury. Ugh.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Mmmmmm nup – doesn’t look like I have had a significant SN love connection this time around. Or at least not one that I am aware of. My south node is in Leo and so my past life working-outerings have been reserved for my fabulous parents *insert sarcastic tone* who are both Leos. Ok ok ok …. love me mum – but fuq me did it take a lot of personal growth to work through family of origin bitterness. Dad on the other hand was completely munted to the point of basically killing himself. Which was a bit annoying as… Read more »

LAGallerina
LAGallerina

I started hanging out with my BF when Pluto exacted a conjunction with my South Node in the first house. His Juno hits my North Node and my South Node hits his Lilith. It feels very natural and comfortable and I feel like we’re making up for lost time.

I don’t think the point is that all South Node relationships are Love Zombies. She’s saying people use it as an excuse to stay in unhealthy relationships. Fuck ya, Love Zombie Squads!

Invictus
Invictus

One day at a time obviously. 😀

Invictus
Invictus

The best antidote to BEING a Love Zombie BTW is having one direct their intent on you. There is literally NOTHING creepier and more scary or traumatic in the realm of mate / date than a Love Zombie you are not interested in continuously rising up like Michael Jackson’s Thriller Night. If only out of dignity and for pragmatic reasons I recommend every love zombie imagine themselves as the one the one in THEIR life who JUST WONT DIE. We’ve all had one. Now watch them in slow motion on repeat and transpose your face and voice onto theirs. Remember… Read more »

Sphinx
Sphinx

Will laminate this & pass around to my nieces when of age!

ElizaRose
ElizaRose

Hey so I’m in a great relationship and his South Node is on my North Node, and vice versa obviously. What’s the deal with that? Kinda interesting placement and I’ve never understood it. My boyfriend and I are very much alike and get along fantastically well, so I assume it’s a good thing!

calypso
calypso

see Miss Vervain’s post above for same question and an answer!

Emg
Emg

Maybe someone else has piped up with this but I reckon when we come back there is the same person in a different meat suit that’s all and therefore what once hit us bang in the chest or the where ever is still going to have a habit of doing that and maybe this time if we hook up, which we are bound to do because it’s all still there after all, then we might just make amends or do things better or still have some ground to cover. If this soul arrives you just do what you gotta. Just… Read more »

Emg
Emg

Well ok I admit it… main man and me must have been previously hooked up (but I knew that)

Composite SN in Saggi 7th. With our NN in Gemini 1st

On the synastry we have
His Jup on my NN
My Venus on his NN
His Neptune on my SN
And my MC on his SN

So here we are again living it out this time to see what happens and it feels like living and dying all at once. Bliss

Sphinx
Sphinx

Sweet! That sounds like a heavenly collection of NN matches.

My hub’s Lilith is exact my NN.
That’s it.
Maybe that’s enough 😀

Emg
Emg

His lilith eh! Well I reckon I could enjoy that aspect. Yummy stuff.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Yes! *Like*

Elleo
Elleo

Happy to say that I am finally FREE from this crazy. I have been quietly and not so quietly whining since Pluto crossed my Asc in 2008 about such an affair. What a trip. Thank you Mystic for helping with that- I love you and your no nonsense perfection!

lilopinpin
lilopinpin

My ex and I have some major north node aspects (my NN conjunct his Asc. and his NN conjunct my Asc.) what we had was maybe not karmic from past lives, but it was karmic in the sense that it revolutionized our lives, we’re not together anymore, it ended quite fast (7 months) but changed my way of being forever….

kinda scared of finding a SN connection one day to someone…doesnt really sound fun

lilopinpin
lilopinpin

HA! ACTUALLY,

i didnt notice BUT

HIS NN on MY ASC.
MY NN. on HIS ASC.

HIS VENUS on MY SN
MY VENUS on HIS SN

i mean wow

EEL
EEL

on the extended options chart on astrodienst, tick the box on the bottom that says show descending node. it will show you south node!

im so over south node schizz. but shit, finding a north node person i get along with will prob kill me. my own sun is square my nn.

interesting jan spiller site. i just looked at my past 4 relationshits and All of them have composite nodal activity in the 12th house. how creepy is that?

Emg
Emg

Jan spiller is amazing for the nodal stuff. Love her work.
I’m a recovering concubine… so true.

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Just a general FYI – you CAN get the South Node to show in Astro.com charts. To do this, simply click on “Extended chart selection”, then scroll down until you see an option marked “show Descending Node” on the right. Click to generate the chart you want and – viola! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen someone try and justify a shitty relationship or Love Zombie attraction to someone they hardly even know by saying “But their Venus is on my SN!” *groan* SN contacts just mean “been there, done that, got the T-shirt” – they don’t… Read more »

catfish moon
catfish moon

Love Zombie Squad!!!! YES LOVE IT!

I’ve been there……Psycho scorpio exboy had his SN and my moon. Yuck. NOOOOOOO!

Torro and I have his SN and my Juno. I love this! It was so easy for us to move into hubby /wife relationship.

Libra takeover in the zap zone
Libra takeover in the zap zone

Don’t south nodal love connections have diminishing returns? As in they end after awhile, after the initial spark? Someone begins to outgrow the relationship.

S
S

I fn hope so. Sun Gems are not healthy relationships for me.

EEL
EEL

if it doesn’t combust in a hateful way first.

Happy cappy
Happy cappy

Personal experience?

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

Yes. Absolutely. One in particular was beyond terrible.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Yes. If the main connection is just around SN – which is strong attraction at first. The person who’s node is being pushed by a planet person will start to feel cramped, usually. Sometimes SN relations come with NN connections too, each situ is unique. But heavy SN gets stiffing after the initial attraction is enjoyed, for sure.

Happy cappy
Happy cappy

And to think that people often marry their south node loves.

Sphinx
Sphinx

😯

Ryan
Ryan

It’s interesting you titled this one this way. My current “ex” came about during my saturn sextile jupter and he has his moon on my south node conjunct my chiron in my 8th house. He totally woke up every chironic part of me and pushed me into this amazing path of transformation. of course this was all a by-product of me being hurt by him endless times, but luckily my chiron manifested just in time (because where chiron hurts you can cause cancer if you don’t reconcile with him) and now i’m a stronger person for it. I’m not longer… Read more »

catfish moon
catfish moon

I am incredibly stronger after my moon/SN relationship. It was a horrid relationship.

EEL
EEL

same here!

calypso
calypso

my abusive rel was a SN?Pluto conjunction. But yay! I feel the same! different, better, stronger, present, sort of healed in a weird way. Not that I recommend that path to enlightenment. Listen to Saturn the first time round, it’s easier, lol!

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

13 years ago today my Gem love died. My south node is Gem. I’ll never forget the moment we met… On our first date we slept together & were then inseparable for the next three years. Ultimately he broke my heart in a way no one else ever has (& hopefully ever will again). Would I do it again? Yes: I wouldn’t trade our time together for anything. Next lifetime.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Also, dig this synastry: The morning he died 2001, we had a freak snowfall. I remember staring out my sliding glass doors in shock with the news & watching the snow fall on newly green trees & tulips. Made his death all the more surreal, like a bad dream. This very morning 2014, we woke to a freak snowfall: three inches on my just bloomed lilac bush. Surreal today, but not like a bad dream. Like a pretty dream. And then my old friend from the town we lived in together forwarded me an email from her CPA: apparently he’s… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

beautiful. Blessings.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Blessings 12hv xx

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

So many of you have commented that your SN relationships themselves were hideous: mine wasn’t. We laughed all the time, sex was incredible, made a great team at work (we worked & lived together), indulged in the arts together… Sure we had our spats here & there, but they werent over the top or abusive/unhealthy. Our relationship was great, it just ended badly & too soon, & by forces seemingly beyond our control. But that’s the “karmic” bit of the SN relationship, isn’t it.

EEL
EEL

Mine was beautiful during the blissful initial stage but then turned shitty.
ongoing threats of bodily harm from him, him vandalizing my property, him causing harm to my social network and libelous stuff online….

just say no to someone who has their moon on your south node and there is no other North node aspect.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Yeah, that’s awful! Definitely a SN horror story never to be revisited. Kudos on your survival, eel. Sheesh.

Lostmyreligion
Lostmyreligion

http://www.cosmiclove.com

This site helps with finding nodal connections

S
S

Thought I’d ask a few questions of Lady Oracle.

What Was Our Past Life Together?

THE CLUE TO THIS IS IN THE VERY FIRST PROPER CONVERSATION YOU EVER HAD WITH X.

What do I need to know right now?

A GEMINI OR GEMINI RISING WANTS TO SEDUCE YOU!

My track record with this sign placement is a South Node tragedy. End of Story.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Well, Ando Spinx shows it can work, but, yes, SN connections raise red flags for me now. I was OBSESSED with the Saggo whose SN hit my Mars-Pluto-Mercury. I went through hell over that “love” and came back out of the pit. I can’t believe I’m not obsessed with him anymore. I was obsessed with him since being a child of 15 until…what ….37? Sheesh. The Pisces had Juno exact conjunct my SN and I had my moon loosely conjunct his SN. His Pluto on my AC…he totally wanted to control me. That’s what I woke up with on my… Read more »

Sphinx
Sphinx

Ando Spinx! Love it, sounds like some South American Cankle Elastic Band.

For whatever reason my NN relationship was the LZ damaging one. I think I have enough NN externally not to need an NN relationship. I just need support exploring my NN from someone who knows me well.

ms. vervain
ms. vervain

What about North Node on someone’s South Node? My South Node is on Plutoboy’s North Node, his South Node on my North Node and Lilith. We’re not exactly Love Zombies, as far as I can tell……. though there’s definitely a past-life connection, ancient resonance. Of course we do have the infamous Napalm aspect to round things out….. 😉

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

When their SN is on your NN – they’ve done what you are trying to learn and since your SN is on his NN then vice versa. You are role modelling for each other and it’s kinda cool that it’s reciprocal and with the passion factor to keep the whole thing glued together. Obviously a “meant to be” set up!

Pi
Pi

suffering from major ennui. eclipse, dont know what i was supposed to be anticipating. bring on the Cross.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Tell me about it. The eclipses are such big astrological events it hard not to expect something. But…nothing really feels any different to me.

Sphinx
Sphinx

Last night I sat down & just channeled a bunch of words about the eclipse. All I got was, “The planet’s movements trace patterns on the face of the earth which affects people’s inner landscapes.. Yeah, this eclipse’ll be alright..
Images have a stronger impact on people right now, so be aware of that? The emotions created by yourself are stronger than anything else”. Oh.

Had quite a fun eclipse after that though & had been dreading it a little. 🙂

Pi
Pi

right, i’m moving to my Venus line on earth. where i am now is all pluto and dregged out crap. but venus. I get close to that in Moscow. which would be a helluva sexy city to live in (visit?), venus or no. images eh, hmm.now that’s interesting… did have a bizarre insight about an abrasive neighbour with heavy-drinking (?) wife. Had a couple of run-ins with him. Will share as it was just in my head so clearly today. He married his mother, or at least he married the set of unresolved issues that he has had with his… Read more »

calypso
calypso

you can burn the bridge but you might still be stuck in the castle?

Pi
Pi

makes my 9th /10th housey things go “what no way RRRAHHHHHH”

hmm

pluto ic = heavy anchor.??

AGH

*shouts other things*

leaving the country always seems to solve the problem. like a giant reset each time. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

thanks ‘lypso

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Funny, I posted a bunch of images to FB yesterday and some videos. All of nature. The woods here blanketed with yellow flowers. My lawn is purple with violets and hyacinths. I saw deer swish its white tail in a kind of mating dance – it was just stunning. Got a photo of my trickster black and white dog in the field of yellow flowers. Reality is stunning.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

A lawn of purple violets and hyacinth sounds divine!!

Violets are my one of my fave flowers. Love hyacinths too. They smell heavenly.

Can you please post a pic of your purple lawn as your grav? 😀

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’ll give it a try for you!

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

My Libra Venus will be pleased 😛

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Look at me, Scropbot, look at me!!!

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

yaaaay… you did it

Fangs 😀

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

It is! Love it. Enjoy 🙂

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

This is really interesting. Ex-husband’s SN was exact conj my Pisces sun/Merc/Saturn stellium. When we first met there was an easy familiarity but not a lot of chemistry. In fact for most of the marriage we tried to force a chemistry that was patently non-existent. If we were connected in a past life he must have been my teacher/parent figure as he was extremely patriarchal/controlling towards me. Our ending really did feel so very final, like something that was resolved after many lifetimes. The day I signed my divorce papers, the first thing I saw when I left my lawyer’s… Read more »

Fishgirl
Fishgirl

This is so interesting! Jim and I (ex – subject of book) were boyfriend and girlfriend within a week or so – both zombie-ing equally – and his south node was SMACK on my moon in virgo.
Although we aren’t together anymore i can confirm the spookiness and definitely wasn’t the first time we had ‘met’.

Charley
Charley

I’ve never had this. The three people in my life I’ve had that kind of feeling with were/are all on the Pisces/Virgo nodal axis, despite being different ages and do/did nothing to any of my planets or angles.

My sister though, her Sun conjuncts my SN and my Sun conjuncts her SN, I think that’s a lovely feeling, there’s a big age gap between us but we’ve always had a very easy, comfortable relationship, fated to be sisters in the nicest way possible.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I think family synastry is fascinating and can be so comforting.

gbs
gbs

That’s a lovely combination you have with your sister. My sister and I also have strong nodal ties (Venus, Saturn, NN, SN) and we both helped each other through a difficult childhood.

I also have lots of nodal connections with my longtime boss (NN, SN, Moon, Mercury, Midheaven, Mars).

It’s very comforting to be around people like this, although you have to be extra careful not to take them for granted or get into a codependent dynamic.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Ditto, My best friend for all eternity (who is a Virgo) has the Virgo/Pisces SN/NN combo and so does The Cap. I think perhaps with my Aqua NN, Pisces NN people resonate as both signs symbolise a move away from a purely ego driven existence toward a more helping others/connecting to the greater good thing. So we get each other. Or sumfink ….

Virgoscorped
Virgoscorped

WOW! I made a few strong connections lately (in the past 6 weeks) one was in my circle of friends for 3 years and all of a sudden we just can’t stay away from each other and feeling totally ‘at home’. Very psychic connection, like I have this strong urge to go somewhere and here she is, we bought a Tarot deck each last week (without consulting each other) and yes guess what it’s the same. There’s a palpable attraction between us but … it’s complicated. Her sun and Neptune are conjunct my SN/Asc, her Moon conjunct my NN, her… Read more »

calypso
calypso

😯 I really didn’t need to hear that about the NN, lol!

just kidding, but my NN lovers were gifts from Uranus – is that a thing? Uranus, future? Anyway, they can’t both be my destiny 😉

calypso
calypso

neither of these are current btw!

S
S

From now on I will be checking the Node placement. Because the Node knows! 😉

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

haha! Yes it’s the NN one that has me all tangled up in blue as well – and being an Aquarian NN + Midheaven + Mars makes it prominent, in my face and “feeling like the direction I must go” … even though it’s hard and annoying. Embracing the Aqua/Uranus vibe has been my life’s challenge – it’s just SO not my comfort zone. The zany, eccentricity of Aqua? Yes. But the collaboratively working with and connecting to groups for humanitarian purposes and the greater good? Fuq no. In that respect I am so my SN – Leo. A loner… Read more »

calypso
calypso

yes, I can see the Kataka – Aqua dynamic being a hard one to reconcile.

“hard and annoying” lol! does it feel prominent because it’s near your MC? or because it’s Aqua?

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

I think because it’s at the top of my chart, conjunct mars and close to the midheaven in the 10th house. Career is a big thing for me – always has been. And yet I’m no traditionalist either and so tend to buck against structures that I find stupid and restrictive. Learning to go with it, put ego aside and not constantly try and change everything to suit myself is a bloody challenge let me tell you!

pi
pi

Honestly. Life is too short to waste on some fuqtard. I wish someone had given me a good talking to ‘re this when I was young and beautiful.

pi
pi

Speaking of Lana. Lol.

Raché(Aqua/Tauri)
Raché(Aqua/Tauri)

😀

pi
pi

Happily register for lz squad. Venus Chiron SN conjunct, all of my relationships seem to have some evolutionary aspect. Never any contact from exes though nor them from me. I am a late Pisces, I figure this is it for rships. When I burn those bridges, I burn them to the ground. Takes a while for the ash to blow away but they’re Gorn.

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Right on cue, this happened to me tonight. I have south node in Libra at 22 degrees, pretty much on this eclipse moon. So I was at a rock concert tonight and the band was playing right during the eclipse. I had already met and chatted with one of the guys in the band at another of their gigs, and met him again tonight and we talked for awhile……gah, I always fall for musicians, over and over…..This will go nowhere because he lives in England and is on a world tour right now, but it was a short and powerful… Read more »

Silver Huang
Silver Huang

Loving the bit about, “An ex is an ex.” LOL The “Once were together, always be together” fantasy is alluringly addictive when we fear aloneness, crave companionship like a drug and need someone else to say “I love/need/want you” to feel whole/complete. Basically, it’s grasping at any straw to say, “Don’t leave me alone!” under the guise of, “But we’re meant to be together because we were once together!” Or something like that.

I bought into the delusion in my teens and early 20s. One fucked up relationship was enough to cure me of that bullshit forever more LOL

Pegasus
Pegasus

The advice on the weeklies. #4 about relationships. YES, that’s what happened.

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S

Have been just discussion all things South Australian. Hope your well Devine Pegasus x

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Oops Luna typo: discussing.

Pegasus
Pegasus

LUNA. Isn’t it a beautiful word?
Am smiling as you are i hope.

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Yes 🙂
Too my new rainbow moonstone earrings and bracelet (a gift) out to soak up La Bella Luna’s goodness tonite

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Fuq: Took

Pegasus
Pegasus

Well what a day of surprises, very pleasant ones. Got hunky door stopped by the Sagg Adonis at 8.30am whilst at the mac in dressing gown & trackie pants and slippers (yes slippers with a fabric rose i cannot cut off) just to freak me out. Said of all the times look gorgeous, you surprise me looking dagga, at least let me go brush my hair before i speak with you! 4 months since i last saw him. *sigh* whatta man. Just coffee and much catch up conversations. THEN a barista called to catch up as he had been to… Read more »

Veronica
Veronica

Very nice. I imagine you are good company to be around Pegs, and a fascinating ‘woman of a certain age’ as the French say

Pegasus
Pegasus

Oh mercy bien Veronique 🙂

Sphinx
Sphinx

Ha, I thought the same thing Pegs. You sexy thang. 🙂

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I want to be hunky door stopped by him! lol

pleidian pisces
pleidian pisces

OMG – that explains my love zombie attraction!! It’s obsessive!!! yikes – my neptune, sun, venus and mercury is conjuct his scorpio south node – but he only has his neptune conjunct my neptune and scorpio south node – maybe that’s why I am the obsessed one! Eclipse NOW is the time to LET IT GO and that is exactly what I am going to do!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

OMG – that is so scary. I say this after having been obsessed with a Saggo most of my life. I fell in love with him as a teen, broke up, got married, and he entered my life again as soon as I got divorced (he is still married.) I got past it in 2011, or was it 2010? I got past it, but not before I LZed like a psycho, had past life regression, and spoke about his childhood with his dead mother. Stuff like that. My Mars-Pluto-Mercury conjunction is on his South Node. I believe his Sun is… Read more »

Veronica
Veronica

Wow, what light did his dead mother shed? I had dreams about encounters with the Leo’s mother and father at separate times, both of whom had passed before we got together, so I never actually met them IRL. In the dreams, the father was happy I was with Paul, the mother not.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Mother was awful. I knew her in real life and knew something was off about her but after she passed…I had just trained on how to connect with the dead so I sent her blessings and she sent me back cold. Ends up she abused him and wanted me to help manipulate him from beyond the grave. Sickness. I suspect I was his bad mommy in a past life. Karma is no joke. I’m no one’s bad mommy now.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I went to a psychic circle thing (highly NOT recommended) and a woman told me I had hurt him “very badly” and the other woman said I had to forgive myself and I was all “I’m the good girl here!” and confused and when I went home, it was like I could see the blood on my hands, I could see the abuse, I could connect to the mind of an abuser just like I can connect to the mind of the goddess on the mountain – they’re both there…me…or something like it. Terrifying. It was absolutely terrifying. So, talking… Read more »

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Well done 12HV for completing the necessary work. *Cyber high five x

Sphinx
Sphinx

The horror 12HV! 🙁 Such a lack of kindness & support. I have had funny psychic circle experiences also. People get v. jealous & competitive in that environment, mucho dislike. Then their abilities become like psychic arrows.
But hey, “if I was served up a punishment, justice has been served as it should be” I am not sure I get this bit? Could you elucidate?

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

The letting go. Letting go of the idea he and I were meant to be together…letting go of control…I experienced it as painful. But in another life I experience that “control” as being an abuser. Its hard to articulate. The movie Cafe de Flore does a good job of telling that tale. The psychic circle was led by an Aborigini woman. I could see her using the woman next to her like a battery of sorts. She was very ungrounded. When it was “over” the woman next to her collapsed. My house was haunted for two weeks after that. I… Read more »

Sphinx
Sphinx

I think I understand better now, I was thinking something else. That circle sounds creepy. I was kicked out of my psychic circle for being ‘too powerful’ and aligned with Buddha. As opposed to being weak & aligned with being Qi vampired? Lol.

Veronica
Veronica

What comes to my mind, 12HV and Sphinx, is how both of you can spontaneously channel images and lives from the Akashic (If you want to call it that) and both of you aren’t really overly attached to an ego identity in this life. But also can be overwhelming when you hit a certain person or connection.

Could be why conducting written relationships is a good medium for you 12HV.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

My personality’s problem is that I’ve kept the idea of an idealized relationship for lifetimes. Son or husband or guard. So idealized, there is no chance of ever having it because you have to believe something is out of reach to be able to long for it the way I have, in both circumstantial and self-imposed isolation, for lifetimes. It would be good for me to get the fuck over it. I see it…that’s progress.

Pi
Pi

important to give people room to be themselves.. x

Sphinx
Sphinx

I love that as a beginning phrase for an essay. “My personality’s problem is:”. 😀 For me it is like I am lucid dreaming & can’t get proper focus. Mainly I focus too heavily. But with Sun in Leo, 2nd House & Scorp Moon.. it is a lot of work lightening up. I am at least charmingly obsessive some of the time with a Gem Asc?? I hope.. 🙂 I have had people fall in love with one of my personalities (quiet & spiritual) to completely freak at me when another popped out (dances-on-tables party girl). I look forward to… Read more »

Centaurus
Centaurus

Ok I have a question. I’m not going to use karmic as I don’t know that it fits this example.

What if someone’s Sun/Asc is on your SN? Same deal?

My Sun is my SN as well. Our Suns same which I don’t always find an ideal connection for rels irrespective of variation of planets/houses.

More for curiosity and maybe some emerging mild annoyance at button pushing but this recent change in cosmic climate has shifted the sands.. any flirt action is now met with an internal steely resolve and an external sunny dismissive smile.

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ44x0GnKh4

The first time i heard this my thoughts arrowed to ”Love Zombie soundtrack”.

Apparently Angelina insisted Lana sing it.

It was in my head for days …. Soooo dark creepy and gooey.

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

This is amazing. Love Lana and hadn’t heard it yet. Gooey, yes…perfect description!

Pegasus
Pegasus

Cosmic, only heard Born to Die last week, of course had heard of her, but not listened. Unique.
Loved it, love her voice, definitley not a Warbling Woman.

Raché(Aqua/Tauri)
Raché(Aqua/Tauri)

She really is the self-proclaimed “gangsta Nancy Sinatra”! And not an easy title to earn. Like many people I was meh about Lana after Video Games but she is incredible. Born to Die is great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2PbG6KQKsE

Nr
Nr

I love Lana but she is LZ juice in my opinion. Her lyrics are like the guided tour down to LZ hell. I have Venus square Pluto natally like her – she exacerbates things I prob should not exacerbate. That being said I love her songs. No one gets me the way she does. Obv I feel very ambivalent towards it all. Now I feel like having a tub of ice cream and I don’t even like ice cream. See? See what just happened here?? 😛

Invictus
Invictus

I used to play her and Amy Winehouse almost constantly and exclusively. When I saw their charts my hair stood on end. Amy – Virgo sun mars and mercury with Venus in Leo like me Lana (my nickname at my old job due to my obsession with her BEFORE FERN COTTON lol. Lana has a saggo moon and Venus in Leo. I got chills the first time I heard both of their voices in a way that I have never had with any artist, before or since, living or dead Musically I am now in rehab from anything south node.… Read more »

Tansaway
Tansaway

I wonder what the most popular oracle question is… I’ve always liked ‘what do I need to know right now’ and have used ‘why hasn’t x contacted me’ lol a fair bit. How sad

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Love the “what do I need to know right now”.. Love that one. I also love the “What’s holding me back”. I do the what is the “x” or “ex” doing.. but. It’s just a way to stay connected to them.. ahhhh!!

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Mystic are you going to do a post on Pluto going retro? 😯
It’s on my 1st house.

Or is it just part of the ZZ?

Universali
Universali

Wow. This is weird, I’ve also been contacted by my ex bout rather irrelevant old bank account… And he wants to discuss future video projects. What’s weird is that I actually feel like communicating! We divorced about 8 yrs ago and I’ve since hated his guts, gotten over it, remarried & had a baby. Now current hubby and I on very shaky ground and yes, it’s all shaky because of the past. I am seething about all the crap I have tolerated, furious about how controlled I feel and how much I let myself lose myself. I have mars in… Read more »

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

Woah. So today I witnessed the owner of the studio I work at meet up with her ex that she had not seen or spoken with for 20+ years since their breakup. She had a sparkle about her all morning, giddy…her and her husband are a totally awesome power couple but something felt off when he dropped the son off this morning. I think they were tense already and she hadn’t even told him about the meeting yet. I just had this gut feeling that something odd was happening. I was working near them (smallish space) and overheard some of… Read more »

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

She’s uber-Gemini, husband is Aries. Don’t know about her ex.

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S

I’ve always tried to sing the theme song from Sleeping Beauty by Pyotr Tchaikovsky, ever since I could spin my own vinyl (ding turn the page).
Gen Xers will appreciate the skill as a 7 year old. Kataka Sun me was very careful not to scratch my copy. It’s still something that I remember with joy. Bless you Mystic for reminding me of a happy childhood memory 🙂 x

Sphinx
Sphinx

🙂

Pi
Pi

i just adore tchaikovsky’s work. stravinsky,,, the russians! the russians! 😉

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S

Russki babies x

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