The Fresh Prince/Princess Of Easter

Nick Nazzaro

Easter = Rebirth. Dionysus. Eggs hatching. Rabbits rooting. Dead Gods and Goddesses (for example – Jesus, Ishtar, Osiris, Adonis, Persephone) resurrecting.  Let’s just leave it at that. If you want to pull off your own personal resurrection now, this IS your astro.

More in the Daily Horoscopes (extended as they cover the Easter long weekend) just posted.  Also in the Monthly Horoscopes for April.

And the Tarot is up but available to all subscribers only from Mars Direct on May 20. Tarot Muses have access in the meantime…

Re the Grand Cardinal Cross/Zap Zone that dominates the rest of April – see previous untold posts re this, scroll down or use the site search engine – it is at 13 degrees of the Cardinal Signs, right? Last night i had a dream that this “guide figure” said to look to when Saturn was last at 13 Cancer/Kataka, 13 Libra, 13 Capricorn and 13 Aries for a fabulous insight. He said it would make the Cardinal Cross become the “wheel of life.”  The implication was that the insights would wow one out.

So yeah, okay…I did the dates:

Saturn @ 13 Capricorn:  March to May 1989  & December 1989

Saturn @ 13 Aries:  April 1997:  November & December 1997. January 1998.

Saturn @ 13 Cancer/Kataka: October and November 2003. June 2004.

Saturn @ 13 Libra:  November 2010.  April 2011. August 2011.

Thoughts?  Do any of these dates resonate?

 

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Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

Hey I’m a little late to the Saturnalien and Andro party, but I’d like to throw in my 2 cents as an actual chemist and healer. and yeah I’m being Switzerland but I’m a Libra so expect it. Drug store bleach is sodium hypochlorite and while it may sound really similar to sodium chlorite it’s not the same thing. The weird thing about chemistry is that something be have an extra oxygen or hydrogen attached and it changes the way it can look or act upon things. Sodium is a highly reactive metal on it’s own and I’m pretty sure… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Ditto and everything you said! … well except for the chemistry stuff which I haven’t got a clue about but I defer to your expertise EEL. 😉 Having myself been recently motivated to move into healing work by sources beyond my puny human comprehension, I kinda get some of the issues being discussed here in this debate. Although my work is along the emotional/psychological spectrum, the principles remain the same. In fact, emotional and psychological healing work is even more intangible than physical work and you’re even less likely to get direct affirmation that the work you are doing is… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Oh and also on the subject of financial suffering to do my degree … well I have not experienced this. I asked Cedric for guidance and direction on how to go about this whole study process in a sane way and the path was laid out for me fairly quickly. Get this: within a week or so of applying to get into my course, I was offered nay TOLD to apply for this job I currently have in crisis counselling even though I have no formal experience or qualifications. Personal and life experience yes. The formal stuff? Zip! But I… Read more »

david5379
david5379

you and 12hv have mentioned coming in to contact with beings or whatever that give you advice, how do you guys do that? Are you guys just so sensitive to those things it just happened on its own or did you open up yourself to that kind of thing somehow?

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Hey David Well I’m just one person and this is just one person’s account so not any absolute truth or anything … just my experience and interpretation … But Cedric is not an entity or other being, Cedric is just a part of me – but a higher more refined part of me if that makes sense. Some call it higher self, soul, soul consciousness whatever … I don’t use those terms because they are too wanky for my tastes. But I had to call it something and it was my ex-Aqua housemate who coined the name 😉 How did… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Hi David. For me, it was an extreme case of falling in love. I reconnected with a Saggo soul mate as I was going through my divorce. I hadn’t seen or heard from him for 15 years or so, and when we got back in touch it was like – I can’t explain – EVERYTHING felt more feeling-ish. And I was open to it because I was in love and it was him and such a homecoming, love zombie-ness made me brave and open. I associated a lot of it with him, but I knew it was more and bigger… Read more »

david5379
david5379

wow that’s just amazing. Really really interesting. I have had extremely spiritual experiences but they are more like intense moments and don’t last. I don’t think I live out of love or helping people sadly, I do love people in general and my friends and family deeply and am just happy to be alive so I can have them in my lives. So indirectly its out of love I guess. I am kind of scared actually, of getting in a relationship and having a big love. I think I had a chance at it but was too scared and wasn’t… Read more »

david5379
david5379

I should also clarify, I feel like in some ways it was good I fucked up the things I fucked up, I have grown so much because certain things never panned out and I have had time to myself, you never know with these things I guess, but this is stuff to think about so thanks a ton

Pi
Pi

hey, a thought, we don’t all need to involve ourselves in lifestyles of ‘helping people’ as such. sometimes it’s just a case of being considerate towards others, while not feeling used ourselves. I am taking a break from a career where I was (supposedly) ‘helping’ something bigger than me, to engage in a purely selfish line of study that has ironically(ish) enriched my understanding of the wider world around me. as a pisces and gem rising, uncertainty runs in the blood. so too does the constant second guessing of ourselves. It gets a bit exhausting and at some point, you… Read more »

david5379
david5379

Ya I have a gem moon, and I love to think about things too. With it its probably how I comfort myself even, but if its how I naturally interact with things I can over think things most of the time. I don’t meditate meditate but I am working on my microcosmic orbit, I still don’t concentrate on it very well, and even though I do it about 20 or so min every morning I don’t feel too much better but who knows. About 1/4 to half the time I am doing it I still kind of think about other… Read more »

david5379
david5379

like the way I am has benefits, but a drawback is over thinking things and losing out on something else deeper, which is part of the struggle of my sun square moon aspect(its exact too), like I have experienced weird deep stuff but have never really prioritized it out and out I guess, and I probably should, thats all, whatever all that means

Pi
Pi

yeah that’s cool, i know you’ll get there (wherever ‘there’ is 🙂 ) ..

Pi
Pi

I can’t contribute anything of value to the health debate but I want to add my no doubt obvious 2c to the Aries thing, EEL, and you’re probably on the same page anyway, third time’s a charm, looks like he is showing his true colours, delete !! Sounds like he’s leading you around by the nose because he either doesn’t know how to say ‘no’ upfront, or he’s doing some sort of ego gratification thing, or he doesn’t have room in his life. whatever the reason, you’re the one getting hurt. save yourself. “aries guy, it sounds like you’re pretty… Read more »

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

Well he’s the one asking me to these things. I didn’t instigate a damn thing. But I go along with it…saying yes…. and then right before the date…cancellation… 3 times. Until recently, I haven’t been asked out by a man in 14 years. No, I’m not ugly or obese or have anything wrong with me. I haven’t been on a date in nearly 4 years so much as even hugged another man. So ummm….flirt with a barista is not in my programming. Not even remotely interested. I either like somebody or I don’t. And if i like them, I ask… Read more »

Pi
Pi

damn. what a douche. sorry to hear all that 🙁 xx

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

EEL, with all due respect to you chemist qualification, the MMS protocol I’m against, involves dosing autistic children (who have incredibly delicate immune systems/gut/intestinal damage) orally and by enema to the point of nausea and diarrhea, with a substance described by the FDA as industrial strength bleach and they as yet, have not retracted their warnings that it is dangerous to take it internally. There are no studies of use in humans, let alone autistic humans that prove this protocol is not doing more damage than it’s actually healing right now. I would be pushing it to find one person… Read more »

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

Hey now. I’m sorry you feel attacked. That was not my intention. I’m coming from a place of love here. I am not judging you and you are certainly free to disagree. The purpose of my post was that I wanted to say I feel you both. Nobody called you egomaniac except you. I was simply stating “my healer story” which may or may not resonate with you at all. Clearly it doesn’t judging by your harsh response. The FDA has a known verifiable history of passing substances that are clearly toxic and saying they are safe for consumption or… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I don’t feel attacked, just unheard and generally misunderstood re this whole situation by yet another person. I just felt the need to clarify my position once and for all, in one succinct post for the purpose of closure. No drama, seriously. x

P.S. Am fully aware the FDA don’t have the best rep, but they are all we have, and there are still standards and research that needs to be done with medical treatments so I stand by my conclusions.

Sphinx
Sphinx

Thank you Swiss Eel! This was what I understood also about chlorine dioxide, very kind of you to contribute your expertise.
Sorry to hear about the Aries story, that’s just ..disappointing. Blimmin’ zap zone.
Love you too. 😉

sweetpea
sweetpea

Funny as hell, ain’t it?

Just fussed at the Kataka for treapsing choc cookie crumbs across the counter…

It’s a start 🙂

And yes, ultimately, Christ had to let it go…let his ego go in order to heal for he was not the healer, God/Goddess was…

But just wondering why peeps didn’t get what Davidl was saying…it was quite clear to me?

Perhaps others shadows were involved in that and some projection eh?

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Perhaps. I expect you’d point that out if you saw it. I get what David said and what he meant but the idea never give up on trying to heal someone is egotistical and is a prescription for love zombie-dom. Healing doesn’t require draining or sacrificing yourself. The clearest message I’ve ever gotten from Source God/Goddess was “Heal yourself first.” I went there – to that space – *begging* to be able to heal someone else and It responded “Heal yourself first.” I didn’t listen or accept that right away and chased a soulmate straight into hell. Did I heal… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea

Perhaps it would have been better for Christ to “personally just let it go”..

But He didn’t…hmmm?

Really people….

Talk here is often about sacrifice. You can’t have it both ways. Hypocrisy much?

And some of you have just been in a bad mood lately as it is and nit pickin’ the smallest shit. Own it honey.

The best part is that at 55 yrs old and all my Aries and Nodes in the Zap Zone, I don’t give a shit in saying it like I see it…I ain’t dancin’ around no May Pole with ribbons and shit

😆

April Fool’s….

Not..

sweetpea
sweetpea

There is a scene in Top Gun when Tom Cruise is on his bike and the female love character drives up to explain herself and Tom just revs the engine and says

“sorry, I can’t hear you”

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Ahahaha an Aries did that to me once!!! It was infuriating but pricelessly funny all at once. Love you, Sweetpea. I’ve been nitpicky and hypersensitive too. I’ve let myself get worn down by someone. An Aries, teaching me about pride, eh?

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Was doing some quick google research on Christ and healing trying to find where he says you “hold on” and “sacrifice” and that’s the path of a healer. All I found was him saying “your faith has healed you” over and over again. Wasn’t that the point Christ made? That we have access to healing as soon as we are open to receive? As for hypocrisy, if you want to call someone out so directly, use a name. Not that its good policy at the moment, Mars retro and all. Perhaps not take it or make it so personal? I… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea

I am here to change reality…not agree with everyone…

I stir the pot…that is my destiny..

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

lol – I love you!!!!!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo
Saturnalien
Saturnalien

If this is aimed at me, it’s gone right over my head and I would appreciate a plain English literal explanation. My brain is not wired for riddles and metaphors too well soz … x

Bulls Eye
Bulls Eye

Saturnalien, her comments are not worth any further thought from you xx

davidl
davidl

This is for Saturnalien. Sat, I read thru the discussion above re: your assistance to Andy. I’d just like to say that a true healer is one that persists in there attempts to heal , even when it’s better for them personally to just let it go. You just showed me that that is what you are. A true healer. We are all artists, but very few of us are true healers. Keep going on that path, the world needs you. To Andy, I think saturnalien’s intentions and concern are worthy of more than a friendly brush off. I’m so… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Davidl, you just made the alien cry, huge loves and thank you x

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Well stated. I have to reply to Saturnalien down here because it got so small up there I didn’t even have a reply option. I agree with david, but I don’t know what a true healer is, Saturnalien. It seems sometimes we all have to accept “sickness.” I know you are a solid being, I know that. And you’ve said more than once that your pursuit of something is turning you into a geriatric pauper. A geriatric pauper is no fun, right? That’s not who you are or want to be – a geriatric pauper, right? So…now what? And, yes,… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You will be you 100% the right way whatever you do from here. Pick the trip you want to go on, love. Note – I have no fuqing clue what is “right” around here.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

“So… now what?”…

Well, there’s fuck all I can do about the geriatric bit (until I earn shitloads of $$$ for a full scale plastic surgery makeover, but I’m attempting to fix the pauper bit without returning to corporate slavery, which is quite a bit of pressure on top of studying and hustling up extra $$$ for extras and shit, so hoping like fuq I nail it…

And thanks for the brain! x 😀

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I say this with intent to be gentle and fair and with complete ok-ness should you disregard everything I am about to say. But I noticed two things 1) you did conduct healing here and now – patients may never comply, no matter your qualifications. And you did it without whatever degree you are pursuing that would make you a pauper – unless I am missing the decision you face and 2) the zap zone is about simplifying and it sounds like you have one too many things on your plate. I don’t think its a good time to take… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Point 1, I’ll have to chew on for a bit, or for a lot… interesting perspective, cheers for that! Point 2, I have no need or intention to take on debt other than my student loan, but I consider an interest free loan with repayments via tax when income reaches a certain threshold to be an investment if I end up with a fulfilling career out of it, it’s not crippling me at the moment, and if I don’t finish my degree, I’ve still got debt from half the course and nothing to show for it other than a head… Read more »

Sphinx
Sphinx

Hi david, thanks for the kind words. For the record, bubba Cap did a few weeks at the lowest dose & he had a powerful & positive response. However, he does not want to continue it. The hardest thing I am doing here is respecting his choice to remain at the level he is at with grace! But he does not have interest in our world in the common way, his grip here is tenuous and I must nurture that connection with all the love I have, it’s more important that his body’s abilities. Am not brushing off Saturnalien, I… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

” I don’t agree that “a true healer is one that persists in there attempts to heal, even when it’s better for them personally to just let it go”. That’s like saying true love is in being a love zombie.” Absolutely agree!!! It is EXACTLY the same thing! You are a healer par excellence too. If it was you – as I suspect – who dosed me with Universal juju when I was low a few weeks back – thank you. It really helped me. I thought of you. I’d buy that, but its not for sale in capsule form.… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Many healers across time have commented that healing comes through them and not from them?

Sphinx
Sphinx

Hi mille, maybe that distinction doesn’t matter so much, we are made of ‘source’ energy, I think I read in conversations with God, vol. 3, that we channel the Spirit whether it is from within or without! Ifykwim! I guess what matters is if you identify the ‘power’ as yours to control, because I think that’s where it get’s messy and becomes a problem of ego. Something like that.

Sphinx
Sphinx

Aww, thank you so much gorgeous! But I can’t take the happy responsibility for your energy shift – though I always send you my love, esp. when I read your are going through something. 😉

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

I can’t look back at those past dates because i’m really having a Piscean Time Sense. I did just look at a box full of actual appointment diaries for the last decade or so, but i don’t have time (heheh and also sorry for pun) to read any of them (i keep them for when i’m being really Piscean about time…with Mercury trine Neptune my memory can be super ancient aeon with Tuesday afternoon but no rest of the week thrown in). I’m also preparing to move in a few days…Maison de MilleUnaNotte. Is it the ending of a year… Read more »

pi
pi

Love you mille. Eyes on the prize and Never Stop Feeling.

What if you *did* run a paint scraper around that window…?

Have found that my brain loves to communicate with me via music, if you ignore the fact that it was Neil diamond, what was the specific song and/or lyrics that were in your mind?

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’m curious about the song too. That dream sounds pretty fascinating as mille’s dreams usually do

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

I don’t know – i had never heard it before – i simply recognised the voice. Like whatever is being sung, i am tired of hearing the voice. (It is possibly about not being listened to.) I’m being shut down constantly, corrected and criticised. It would be easier to behave around this (except for the shifting goalposts), but that means accepting this as normal and i refuse to believe that such selfishness is normal. I have experienced and witnessed too much kindness from others. I’m not rejecting this peron’s ideas outright. I think Neil DIamond means that this person’s “music”… Read more »

Pi
Pi

aha. yes. I suspect on the Aquarian side of the looking glass, Pisceans seem like demented creatures incapable of thought, only of feeeeeling, and angst…. and roomannncceee… *pulls sarcastic aquarian face*. And to us fish people, a lot of the time, their inability to actively empathise in any way recognisable to a human being in a way that acknowledges that someone else actually has a heart and soul that occasionally needs more than a wooden pat and robotic “there. there.” , is incomprehensible. So, i am probably just rambling, but I know aquarians do have feelings, they have told me… Read more »

aqua lion
aqua lion

All big changes and turning points for me too: 1989 last semester of high school 1997 finally got out of my first not very great full time job (data entry) into something I believed in 2003, 2003… The job I was in ended, went travelling on a round the world trip 2011 paid off my house, again went travelling (shorter this time), returned to study All good changes so will be good to see where this goes And my Moon is at 13 Aries conjunction Chiron and Eris (Eris is like the bad fairy in Sleeping Beauty who gives a… Read more »

Raché(Aqua/Tauri)
Raché(Aqua/Tauri)

The Zap Zone won’t get me down…but my extended Neptune square Mars transit just might. Everything has felt so wrong since Neptune went off my Mercury and started squaring Mars.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’ve got transiting Neptune opposing my natal Venus, squaring my natal Neptune…so much Neptune going on. I swear – I can do Pluto, but I can’t get a handle on Neptune! Maybe air signs have a harder time with Neptune? Maybe water signs can go with a Neptune flow, but me…too much air in my chart. I want to understand the un-understandable…Sorry for the rant. Just commiserating…try Art? Invention? Photography? Dreaming? Whatever you do, don’t doubt your integrity.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

The key to dealing with Neptune is ‘stay grounded’. If you’re in an actual fog, visibility is always better closer to the ground than at eye level…

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

Maybe better but it can still be foggy as fuq on the ground!

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

You are right though. If you stay grounded you are less likely to fall. But Neptune makes you want to go sky diving, lol!

R(aqua/tauri)
R(aqua/tauri)

Oh, I agree! With Pluto it feels like there is a reason or a message or some karmic stuff going on…Neptune to me just feels like chaos and blurriness and the desire to dissociate. I’ve noticed since all the stuff went down with the Pisces guy and the Neptune transit started that I am too dissociated from my feelings to even know if I am into someone and sort of settling for casually dating people with status and connections. Which could be cool (career opportunities, wanna-come-on-this-three-day-business-trip-to-Toyko). But it doesn’t feel right. Depleting. I’m probably just really hurt still but don’t… Read more »

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

A pull to disassociate – that’s it! Through fantasy, chemical or isolation. Haven’t smoked for 2 months but been on my mind this week! I’m trying to check my romantic-relationship expectations. Like, the Pisces for me – when I am harshly honest with myself – I wanted to keep him like a pet. And he is a man. And that’s not a genuine relationship – that imbalance. I can’t articulate it. Anyway, finding I have to revisit what I want. I may already have it. Weird relationship things going on blurred borders but in harmless ways. Relationships that are hard… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea

When Neptune squares off with Itself, it is a battle of illusions, all vying for your attention…My take at the moment…never had that take before but lived thru it… Yes, like Saturnalien states, keep your {Virgo Earth)eyes close to the ground…Don’t look straight into the fog love… Couple of years ago, had a headlight out on my car…my old Honda…not my cute little Fit….Kataka Sun in 8th daughter, Moon in Sagg conjunct Saturn 1st altho Scorp Rising and her Gemini/n in Libra hubby took me to an auto repair and SHE.. yes, she replaced my headlight for me. Was 12… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea

Scary as fuq…xo

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

Battle of illusions all vying for attention sounds about right. And i am disassociated – no ambition. Now I’m glad I have Pluto transiting my 4th to help keep me grounded

sweetpea
sweetpea

My natal Virgo Pluto is on the IC opposite Pisces MC and Sun-Moon midpoint. Life had been one huge transformation but it is those transformations that ultimately ground me in this reality, here, now and ready for action…lol

When we master matter then we have mastered illusion.

Shit like that 😉

sweetpea
sweetpea
12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks, sweetpea!

Kat
Kat

My Pluto in Virgo in 10th conjunct my MC with Uranus on the other side. Transformation/death/renewal is daily grind. LOL! ZZ feels like peeps getting a day in my life. Long ago turned to Goddess for survival. Maiden/Mother/Crone manifest singly and together. Love your energy and wisdom! Sweet Easter and blessings to you! Kat

Kat
Kat

Worked through be your own guru over these years. Husband’s Venus at 13 Kataka on his 4th. He made unwise $ re- money which impacted us repeatedly- utilities cut off etc. his MC is 13 Cap -now money flow is better. Yesterday feng shui’d my purse- found gift cards!!!! Went to posh mall- bought new jeans and a black dress. New foundation garb- Venus central!!! LOL!! All paid for cash or gift card. When I first checked balance on the cards, I thought it was a MISTAKE!Talk about limiting beliefs!!!! Tossing all hand me downs cuz they made me feel… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea

That is ALL so fantastic Kat!

You been workin’ it babe x

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Interesting re those dates. Aries (my 9th house) was when I started part time mature age studies for my Bachelor degree. Libra was my affair with the Cap/gem rising. Saturn was right on his moon along with Pluto on his sun-Venus 7th house conjunction and Neptune on my Venus. Saturn won the bout 🙂

Right on cue last night, the Weatherbeaten Virgo has another booze and insecurity fuelled meltdown. I feel for him and yes I’m sad, but I am not doing drama. My guiding principle at the mo is simplify, simplify, simplify.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Saturn almost always wins. 🙂

catfish moon
catfish moon

Yes Triple D is my motto! Don’t Do Drama!

catfish moon
catfish moon

Today I told the lady who owns the lot next door I will buy it from her. SOOO nervous as I will be taking on another payment, but I know we can do it.
This has been in my mind since I moved here and I have discussed it before, but I finally have enough money to feel comfortable with the commitment and she has lowered the price.
I will get paperwork this week to sign.

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

Congrats!!

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

That’s fantastic, I know you’ve been thinking about this for a long time!

day
day

Wow, Jupiter, Pluto, and Uranus are all exact hit to my pluto and lovely expansive transformation taking place. Like a nice Eureka flash from Uranus and Jupiter opening the door. I’m Zapping meself!

day
day

Testing

Pi
Pi

I have finally managed, I think, to suss out the rising sign of a saggi friend of mine, thus unravelling some (only some) mysteries about this guy. If my guess is right, he has scorp asc. This his puts his Scorp venus and uranus in the first house, which to me explains the occasional pulse of pure sexual energy, like a lighthouse beam. lol. His Sagg stellium in the second – Sun, Neptune, Mars and more. With a toro moon, his seems to totally explain his almost plodding pace and physicality in some things (but the man can COOK) and… Read more »

Pi
Pi

comment about pace meaning my mercury charges around and gets a bit frustrated at times. I mean, the guy does have a brain and the saggi ‘enquiring mind’ and quest for knowledge. which *is* kinda hot.

orion
orion

With Sun -0- Neptune you’re going to get someone for whom fantasy is reality. Let these types loose on the internet and they’re going to go nuts, so good thing for that Taurus moon. I’d venture to guess he is safer there than with his Venus in Scorpio like you said Pi. That Mercury in Sagitarrius with a Sagg stellium probably means someone very intelligent but in a … king of the gods way, likely to run their mouth and not feel bad about it, probably doesn’t know he’s king. Plus the Neptune, probably lends some ambivalence. Can it ever… Read more »

Pi
Pi

thanks Orion, good to hear someone else’s perspective… this is the thing , he doesn’t run his mouth – like SO not saggi that way, at least not around me?? maybe he is holding back. he has a very straight job that requires a very saturnian grasp of things,but his saturn (virgo) doesnt aspect much / anything major as far as i can see. the word I want to use (but don’t want to use) is ‘staid’ what you say though about the merc, i have noticed a couple of times that he literally doesn’t listen to what I say… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

“the occasional pulse of pure sexual energy, like a lighthouse beam” i LOVE that!!! 😀 He has almost the exact astro as the “the heavy metal guitarist Saggo” 😯 I mentioned on another thread – the one that will never be. He has Toro moon, Saggo rising. Sun conjunct Neptune. Venus in Scorp conjunct Saturn in his 12th – hence the slightly inhibited in bed. Told me once he sublimates his desires into his music. Don’t think he’s comfortable with this Scorp venus either. Think he prefers an other worldly type love (12th house) and Mars in Libra. Sorry.. no… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Of course I’m happy that there’s someone new on the scene. 🙂

What’s wrong with dinner & drinks??

Pi
Pi

nothing wrong as such, but i simply couldn’t spare that much time, headspace and money at that point. so it was coffee (or similar) or nothing.

im “just not sure” as they say. I mentioned this to a friend and she said, “well i think in that answer you have already made up your mind!” ie if i still didn’t feel right about things, then …

Pi
Pi

The thing about sublimating desires though, that’s interesting. This guy had a typically trad upbringing and stable family etc etc. I just don’t know if he’s ever really allowed himself an arena to explore his plutonic, scorpy elements in a conscious fashion. He seems coy when I mention something to do with sex, .. like that is So Not what I’d expect from a scorp rising. I suspect some of the ‘beware! Potential control freak’ little warnings I get sometimes might come from the fact that he is actually not conscious of this rich vein of energy in his existence,… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Yeah my Saggo was the same (trad upbringing etc etc) and a little bit coy but I kinda liked that about him. At least he wasn’t sleazy. That’s a bigger turn off for me. I’ve been thinking a bit about the whole sublimating thing too after my comment and I think it IS a very Scorp trait – transformation / phoenix rising from the ashes etc Does every Scorp HAVE to explore their plutonic side in a conscious fashion? Hmm.. dunno. Maybe some don’t need to. Much of my exploration was not conscious and perhaps was my Uranus/Pluto/Mars in Virgo… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Uranus/Pluto/Mars in the 8th house!!!! Very important point. LOL.

Pi
Pi

yeah, i mean what is that like? so many people have that config here.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

another time.. box is getting narrow

Pi
Pi

hmmmmmmm. that is true i guess? not all scorpy types want (need?) a den of iniquity to do their thing. But I have to say, I don’t know anyone like this! (well maybe this saggo friend). Various things lead me to believe he prefers to be friends first and suss out the person with a lot of lead-time, i very much understand this, but i mean just because of this doesn’t mean that i want to commit to someone after a hot night together just because he might have “decided” that i am ok to proceed with somehow?! that’s sort… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

“way less complicated” but so boring!! LOL.

Ah yes, the Venus in Aries. Haha.. Do it says my Saggo moon!! 😀

Pi
Pi

soz need to add more. My prob is that I don’t want to deal with someone who is a little narrow-minded in bed. I don’t much care for kink, but a lover has got to have some kind of relaxed, open sensuality if it’s going to work. So i sort of want to ping the scorp venus to see what’s goin’ down, ya know 😀 😀 😀 lololololol

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

yep. I know. I hear ya!! 😉 that’s why Scorps and Pisceans make good bedfellows!! may someone more suitable come along real soon!!! Someone who’ll happily and sensually swim the deep waters with you. oh yeah… re the “There’s time for politesse and there’s time for flirting with intent” “Flirting with intent” is your Venus Aries talking. LOL Scorps don’t flirt – they fix their victims with laser beam eyes, “glamour” them like vampires and wait for them to come… Hahaha 😀 Sometimes I’m conflicted (Venus in Libra vs Scorp sun)… I’m capable of flirting but when I’m really keen… Read more »

Pi
Pi

hahaha… i’d hate to be a scorpio with saggi in the mix, well it would be fun, but th escorp would be rolling its eyes at the saggi all the time 😀 xoxoxox love it [mind you scorp-saggi’s are the most fun 😉

day
day

Productive times. I’m totes anxious and stressed in a highly productive way, like an inner tool that I’m using as a propeller to lift me from the mire. Not even mire, in my life there’s not much to complain about – there are maybe a couple big things, but I’ve got them to a reasonably small size in my control and theyre not really things i can control anyways. I never complain either, because its not how I roll (possibly thats not healthy and is underlying any issue.) This inner tension – it is shining a gold light on the… Read more »

pi
pi

Well said..

pi
pi

Starting to get bored with this name and considering a relaunch with new moon.

david5379
david5379

I’ve been wanting to change my username on this website too

sweetpea
sweetpea

Yeah, there appears a whole bunch of shit that is boring right now…

Some might want to consider 13 degrees of the Cardinals as “critical degrees”…as that is what they are.

Good luck on your nam e change if you choose to Pi. I did like that movie..x

sweetpea
sweetpea

Another words, look within, rather than without as the same old themes churn.

One will never truly find themselves otherwise, even thru astrology and over objectifying reality.

sweetpea
sweetpea

The Goddes lives Her reality…She does not think about it so much.

She is not “rational” but feels…

So feel your reality…

And Happy Easter All…x

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I hear you, sweet pea. The energy is different. Not in the future, now. Like Mooji said “I’ve never seen tomorrow… I don’t have time to be confused.”

I’m a sleeping animal waking up, again and again. The iChing says let the world reshape itself around you. That’s what the sleeping animal does too.

I prob make no sense. Been hoping someone would comment because the energy of the last few days has been extraordinary.

david5379
david5379

the energy has been a lot different

S
S

Dionysus was the name of a shade of nail polish I purchased @ Mecca as turquoise hue.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Nada on all those dates except 13 Libra which all correspond to different stages of my dad’s terminal diagnosis, drama, then death. I thought I’d be able to wow myself out with a big picture story as my sun is 12 degrees, but nothing important noted for on or around those dates – weird.

pi
pi

Yeah I realised that 13 Libra was when my dad took a turn for the worse and hey that ended in the way that does for all of us ultimately

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Weird question Pi, don’t feel obliged to answer… but did your dad have kind of dirty blonde hair (not dirty as in unwashed, just kinda beige or strawberry blonde, can’t describe it properly), not long, but not clean cut either, casual laid back looking dude who hung out by the ocean a lot because he was into fishing or boating or something along those lines?

pi
pi

Hey, oceans and boating yes, but not with that appearance. He had dark hair x

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Ah thanks for answering Pi. I have a guy on the other side who keeps giving me this image of himself standing on rocks by the ocean and I can’t work out for the life of me who he belongs to. Definitely fair hair, not dark though. I’ll just keep (politely) ignoring him until it comes clear who I know, or sort of know that he’s trying to say g’day to. x

pi
pi

Well he sounds nice whoever he is. 🙂

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Yeah, he’s got good energy, just wish I could work out who he belongs to! (I’ve also got a sweet young kid who somehow drowned, but not in water. I don’t know who he belongs to either… )

Pi
Pi

xx

pi
pi

Is that your 4th house too SA? You are gem rising from memory?

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

It sure is, I think we’re 23 degree Asc twins…

pi
pi

Now I rememember x

seagoat
seagoat

Eggs hatching, rabbits rooting…haha. Yes some very significant events in which I either changed career (saturn in cap), moved from one sector to another (saturn in aries), moved country with a promotion (saturn in cancer), and moved into new role in related field (saturn in libra). To be honest, I have been harbouring feels of self doubt (and regret) about my work-life and I’m in the middle of a career change now at a later stage in life and feeling a bit like a freak …but the mapping brought out by the journey of saturn above is giving me another… Read more »

seagoat
seagoat

*feelings (harbouring feels of self doubt? don’t ya just love typos?)

S
S

I love a good typo. 🙂
Except my name being spelt incorrectly.

Have you looked at your North and South Node positions? Firstly I didn’t get the connection with the dates until I re-read MM’s recent post on South Nodes. It might help with your freaked out feelings. Feel all that you have to feel. As your story (past, present and future) is within you and can shine on with a little TLC.

seagoat
seagoat

Yeah S, agree, embrace the typo – also had a look at nodes as you suggested – I don’t read charts but it seems North transiting first house in Scorp (Libra Asc cusp), with South transiting 7th (seems very close to the Sun). I guess this is good…thank you for encouraging words xxx

S
S

So I have been digging through my memory banks and have matched up my Nodes to these dates. Saturn @ 13 Aries: April 1997: November & December 1997. January 1998. This period of time hitting my South Node @ 20 Aries, which translates to bad news on the relationship front. Thanks to MM’s Zap Zone boot camp the embedded mantra is past life loves “get f’d, fuq off”. *CS The Angel’s just for you sweetheart x Saturn @ 13 Libra: November 2010. April 2011. August 2011. This period of hitting my North Node @ 20 Libra, which translates to a… Read more »

calypso
calypso

no way! 😀

ps. your NN is on my Jupe/Merc!

S
S

Re: Jupe/Merc.
So what does that me Sensei CS?

S
S

Bloody hell typo again. me – mean.

calypso
calypso

I dunno, it’s a connection I guess, it might explain why my energy resonates with yours more then others or vice versa. One of my good friends has her NN on my Mars, I think I said that in the South Node thread. Maybe my words can encourage you to your destiny or something 🙂 *no pressure* lol!

S
S

All hail CS. Where is the clapping and chorus line when you need one?
You just like me because I am a straight shooting Kataka. God knows if you happened to be a Sun Cap…I’d be up all in your grill 😉
Memo to Mystic: Sun Cap rehab please. I’d preorder and RSVP now.

calypso
calypso

maybe it simply explains why you delight my mind so much S x

S
S

I heart CS

S
S

The topic of this post…had adrift with DJ Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince.
Kids that’s well before the IPhone and in a time know as the early 90’s. Bomm! Shake The Room (93), not really as good as Summertime (91).

LibGem
LibGem

Yes, all of These dates have been highly significant life influences and resonate to the max! Awesome dream! 🙂

Ezhirri
Ezhirri

Every time I read off a date, my immediate thought was the name of whatever boyfriend I was dating at the time.

This is how I always identify time periods. *sigh*

Lunar Libra problems?

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen

Saturn @ 13 Libra: November 2010. April 2011. August 2011. 13 degrees Libra is exactly on my IC so no wonder these dates were big. Interestingly I was moving around a lot during this time due to crappy apartments, roommate drama, subletting, etc. In a 2 year period starting in June 2010 I lived in 4 apartments. Seriously, Saturn in the 4th house causes trouble! November 2010 is when I got together with my (now ex) girlfriend. We were on / off for a while. it was one of those terrible unhealthy relationships. It had ended by April though I… Read more »

Mina
Mina

Saturn @ 13 Capricorn: I would have been conceived around this time
Saturn @ 13 Aries: April 1997: First extended family trip away from home town
Saturn @ 13 Cancer/Kataka: Shit got real. Had to change schools twice within this period
Saturn @ 13 Libra: Nov 2010 falling deep in love; April 2011 daughter was conceived around this time; August 2011 returned from first trip overseas and developed a severe gluten intolerance which I am only now managing effectively.
😐
I am moving house on the 30th April (800m away but still) and seriously reevaluating my work/study situation.

catfish moon
catfish moon

Good luck with the gluten intolerance. I have been on a strict GF diet for over 6 years. It gets easier and second nature.

Mina
Mina

Thanks! The main issue has been all the hidden gluten and contamination in different prepared ‘GF’ foods (grain vinegar and alcohol including vodka, wheat-paste sealed barrels, glucose syrup, caramel colouring) as well as sensitivity to vegetable gums and now potato. It has been a journey for sure and completely changed the way I look at and appreciate food and my body.
Good luck and good health to you!

catfish moon
catfish moon

I only drink rum and avoid all other grain alcohols regardless of distillation.
I get muscle from too much corn.

catfish moon
catfish moon

oops…I meant muscle pain not muscle…LOL. I wish just muscle. I’d be eating corn now!

Silver Huang
Silver Huang

Totally creepy, luckily as a Capricorn with Moon in Virgo, I keep detailed logs of events and all these dates have matched some unexplained pieces of the puzzle of my life as well as epic major events of change and transformation!

By the way everyone, I highly recommend this web app Preceden for plotting out the timeline of your life. I’ve done mine, health, locations, homes, relationships, career, pets, friends etc. The whole lot. It is really interesting AND makes looking at and matching long-term astro trends very easy!

Lux interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux interior is My Co-Pilot

THANKYOU XXXXXXX got a lot of material to work on this long weekend

Amelie Aveling
Amelie Aveling

Holy Dionysus! Resonates… I could write an essay! Thank you for sharing Mystic! Blessingsfora beautiful Oestre!

Blessed be. Xx

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

These dates coincide with major moves – specifically moving from one house to another usually due to the end of a relationship or association with a social group of some sort

@ Cap – moved out of home for the first time
@ Aries – divorced Toro then met new Piscean would be hub
@ Cancer – left influential social group which included a house move
@ Libra – another significant house move

Nr
Nr

Saturn @ 13 Capricorn: In my 7th House Became an older sister. I wasnt alone anymore. Saturn @ 13 Aries: April 1997: In my 10th House Pursued and achieved a string of awards in a music competition. This was the two years before I finished high school. Saturn @ 13 Cancer/Kataka: In my 1st House Had to rely on myself. I think this was around the time when I started living on my own. This was a difficult time with very high peaks and very low lows, and Pluto in Sagg consolidated the hardship as I wasnt able to properly… Read more »

Sphinx
Sphinx

What is your instrument NR? That sounds an amazing talent you have there. Btw I watched “Anonymous” which was a great romp through the era alright! Their depiction of the false Shakespeare was very amusing, (trust me to, possibly, have great synastry with an alcoholic actor). I wonder though, being that I am Neptunian inclined myself, if it is not possible that Shakespeare was not necessarily as well travelled etc. as made out? Sure he must have spoken a few languages, made a few trips etc. but he could have been a person who was visionary also.. I wonder how… Read more »

Nr
Nr

It was the piano, Sphinxy 🙂

That’s a good point you bring up. I think the assumption is that any education in that time was hard to come by unless you had the means. But questioning that assumption is worth the thought definitely. I will have to think about that too now! Hehe. Thanks for letting me know how you liked the movie. Tres bien, oui? :)))

Sphinx
Sphinx

Oui! I played a few instruments, but my solitude loving heart is always in the piano. 🙂

catfish moon
catfish moon

WOW… I went through HUGE life changes at these times. My natal saturn is conjunct my natal sun, so I get saturn and feel him. Saturn in Cap( my 5th house)…may 89….my father a Cappy sun, alcoholic, quit drinking for good. Thank heavens. Dec 89…my best friend then, also a cappy sun, and I broke up. I wasn’t nice about it either. We made up 7 months later. Saturn in Aries(my 8th house)….April 97…got pregnant with my first child. Was scared, but super excited! January 98….gave birth to my son. My life changed forever! Saturn in Cancer(my 11th house with… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Saturn in Cancer sounds so sad! Hardcore Cancer lessons there for the family. Glad you made it through.

catfish moon
catfish moon

Yes. It was mothers day too, so Cancer all over. Thank you.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Ah I was born with Saturn in Kataka, 5th house– retro. I think it’s the retro bit that makes materializing 5th house goodness so fuqing hard for me. I mean, eventually I pull it off but it takes sooo much energy & time… There’s still so much 5th house stuff I want to actualize & at this pace, I should see the dividends in about 30 years or so. Yay, me! :/

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Saturn in Kataka pinged off many things in you & your’s natal charts… My Kataka is empty save that rx Saturn, so at my Saturn return yes, I got a new job & husband, but neither lasted (although ultimately that was for the best). Reality, yes. x

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I was thinking that of the son too….so hardcore. x

catfish moon
catfish moon

Very saturn…job and husband. Good you know it was for the best that they ended. I still have the same main job, but hubby and I are just friends, coparents, and business partners still.
It makes me sad to think how close we were that year, simply being grateful we all were alive and healthy, and yet the hubby and I couldn’t maintain it.

hdq
hdq

Hm, interesting. Cap- two great-grandparents and my uncle die. I learn the phrase “AIDS epidemic.” 8th house. Aries- I looked up the relationship that started first hit- he is living his dream as a politician! There’s no role that I was (AM!) less suited for than a political wife. Second hit- living in Ireland, returning with new eyes; class awakening. 11th house ffs. Life changed. Cancer- ridiculously exact- pregnant, marriage, first daughter born at June hit. 2nd house. Life changed again. Libra- Fukushima. I was all super prepper waiting-for-the-end mama and realized that there wasn’t a thing I could do… Read more »

GeminEE
GeminEE

Love this post. I was born when Saturn was in Capricorn. I have it retrograde. Most of the dates I met someone significant. Ah, oh wells.

The Zap Zone is shaping up to be INTENSE. Last week I thought, oh wells, my schedule’s quite free so maybe nothing will happen and then this week bam! I have meetings before and after work and just doing so many things. I’m taking this easter to rest and revise, and prepare for INTENSITY!

david5379
david5379

I had a weird spat with a TA recently. Basically I asked him what time and place his office hours where over email and he blew up on me. Apparently in another email, that obviously I didn’t read, he said his office hours and that he never wanted anyone to ask him them again. They use a different website for that class and when I checked the syllabus for his office hours it wasn’t there so I assumed it just wasn’t posted and I would have to ask (that has happened in previous classes). I explained this to him and… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You can win over a fucktard. People are amped right now. And irrational. You did the right thing. You stood your ground without giving any and didn’t escalate a conflict. There are others who realize you’re in the right – like your professor. I suspect when Mars goes direct this guy will get his comeuppance.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

*can’t

pi
pi

Sounds intense dude. I don’t know what a TA is (is that like a tutor?) My response is possibly the opposite of 12v, Recently-ish, I learnt a way of dealing with this sort of thing before engaging too deeply, and it was: “oh fuq it, whatever”. In that my ego could take the (minor) hit even if I really wasn’t doing anything wrong and the other person was being a meep for some reason. ( I don’t know why I said meep but it feels right) but Just dropping it – maybe a followup after class face to face- to… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I think our advice is the same, at least I meant to advise him not to worry about it.

pi
pi

Ok, I see where you’re coming from. Yes fair enough .
Good call on the amped and irrational types btw. I think the personal pressure some people are feeling is starting to show.
That when my ‘smile, nod and walk away’ MO engages. Whether I’m the one who’s a tad tense, or the other person.
X

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Prowlin called it the other day – people being reactionary. I forget the word she used. With Mars retro, it seems best to just stand back, let them react, and go about your day.

david5379
david5379

that’s probably it, I think he set up that rule just so he can ambush students and berate them. Like, he knows if he does that some people are just going to not know weather through actual laziness or an honest mistake, its one thing to insist on not repeating yourself and its another to insist you must teach people a lesson

Pi
Pi

yeah, exactly, sounds like he was rather overstepping the mark defending his anally retentive rules. he’s a tutor. dealing with undergrads or whatever. flex! not resist! etc. (not you, him) 🙂

Pi
Pi

exactly… i just live in my little cloud of ‘whatevs trevs’ these days generally… people just aren’t worth the hassle!

calypso
calypso

I think you’ve clearly articulated how this mirrors an ongoing waste of your energy in defensive positioning David. Sounds a bit like there’s a control element? even if it’s about how you are seen? Cool that you can see that and you can maybe process it and let it go. They guy sounds like an overreactive douche for sure, and really, I would have been tempted to let the Prof know it. In fact the Prof might already be aware of it? Sounds like he’s on a power trip over fuqing emails. Anyway, you still have the emails, if he… Read more »

david5379
david5379

ya it was kind of like seeing a physical actual real life unfolding of a type of conflict I have obsessed over for forever, I always knew how dumb it was for me to think like that, but this kind of drives the point home

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

guy sounds like he has serious ego issues!
Is his real name Eric Cartman?

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

Beefcake!!!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Something is going on for sure. That’s powerful, Mystic. I probably sound like an LZ, but at first I thought some matched and some didn’t. Like I got married in Feb 1998 – so its kind of on. But the more I thought about it, here’s what I got… Saturn @ 13 Capricorn: March to May 1989 & December 1989 Around the time I first met Saggo soul mate. Remember hearing his name for the first time, ffs. Saturn @ 13 Aries: April 1997: November & December 1997. January 1998. Around the time I got engaged. Saggo soul mate later… Read more »

catfish moon
catfish moon

You had some big moments as well.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Interesting that they were all seed times – like, not the first time the Saggo and I got together, but the first time we met. Not the time I got married, but the time I got engaged. And not when my daughter was born, but when she was conceived. Interesting, but as always, who knows wtf that means? lol

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

I find this fab & fascinating, 12hv. You’re right: they are all times of planting– like Spring is for us! I’m planting pumpkins & moon flowers, what about you? 🙂

Fab. x

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I don’t know…my yard is ripped up right now! Its more about what I am taking out of it. I had a dream last night that the Pisces told me to not worry about removing the honeysuckle stump now, to just let the roots rot in the ground and then it would be easy to rip out. I feel like I’m months off from being able to plant anything!

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

I like the idea about the stump: let nature take its course. Maybe plant some morning glories around it meanwhile? Quick, painless & hallucinogenic, magic morning glories.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

This is important work, btw, removing the extraneous. Kia kaha.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I just read this and seems really relevant “Sometimes we mistake relationship issues for issues of personal transformation”

Got to think on it some more…

catfish moon
catfish moon

I completely agree that is true a portion of the time.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

I think they’re intertwined, these issues. Like pumpkin tendrils.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Particularly when you’ve got a first house Libra stellium. I got invited out by a colleague to “catch up” this weekend. He really stood up for me when I got sacked at the last job. Once he told me I was a manic pixie dream girl. I told him to bring his wife next time. I need to bail. It feels too much like a date and I don’t date married guys. He’s Capricorn with Mars in Scorpio. I don’t see him keeping it light either. Although I am so bored, I kind of want a confrontation. To go out… Read more »

david5379
david5379

phhhh your not a manic pixie dream girl, that was a weird thing for him to say

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’d never heard of that before. I don’t really get it either. I think I need to politely stay the fuq away from him.

Pi
Pi
12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Magical, not sexy. Great, lol!

calypso
calypso

omg Pi, that was hilar!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks for sharing this! I shared it with married Cap after he called me manic pixie dream girl again tonight

david5379
david5379

they are supposed to be whimsical, bubbly, and spontaneous. Its not really a good thing either, I am sure your artsy, but your not super hipstery and bubbly. It was actually a phrase coined on the avclub, a really good website, but people made too big a deal out of it. And ya if he thinks that of you its kind of weird of him for sure.

Pi
Pi

hmm. the Mercury 9th house and cap moon in me says ‘hmm, if he’s hiring and he stuck up for me at a difficult time, maybe is potential (professional) development of our working relationship. if it feels a little out of line though, as you say clearly, there is probably some middle ground to meet which is not “catching up” on a weekend sans wifey, unless this is truly just a work thing and you’re simply seen as one of the boys, which is fine / much easier to handle (that’s my venus in aries speaking fyi) anyway bla bla… Read more »

S
S

@12HV. I get much older married guys always chatting to me. My Girls speak to them “Hmm breast feeding”. A: I can’t your Mumma and B: I don’t do married guys. Age is not the issue, it’s I respect the scantily of marriage. Even if the blokes don’t.

S
S

Damn it..sanctity of marriage. A: I ain’t your Mumma.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I think Pi is right about having a chance to be one of the guys and keeping a good professional contact. If he slips up, I will call him on it immediately. He seems very happily married, so perhaps I’m being paranoid. I’m more worried about myself being an LZ. But, I’ve been getting some good meditating done on that. I feel a shift.

calypso
calypso

anyway, you’re safe – he doesn’t want to have sex with you, he just wants you to play a miniature guitar!

omnesensual
omnesensual

Can think of something major that happened for each co-ordinate: back injury, engagement, birth of fourth baba, and subsequent marriage break down. Should i be scared? Haven’t got time for that shizz!

emily
emily

Yeah, i have 13 deg. MC libra conj Mercury and Jupiter, haha. My saturn return in libra (also conj. these planets) was awesome and was actually a total 180 from Saturn in aries, which was maybe the worst time in my life, to be honest. Everything that happened during those periods makes sense astrologically: Failed out of a school, Lost a job, lost friends, broke an arm, cut a finger, had to move back home, etc. If I just list what happened during those times, it sounds like a pretty unsuccessful life! But things are fine now and it shows… Read more »

emily
emily

Oh, and this period of my life is actually a step forward professionally (maybe because one side of the square is so beneficial, if this tactic is correct?) and this school year I got a new teaching job that was a step forward in my career. As in, I’m ok with the idea of having the same job for a very long period of time and feel satisfied with my position, location, etc. Just want the above stated problems to be resolved.

AirOnFire
AirOnFire

Re all those dates – during most of them I had a paradigm shift in my life (except saturn in capricorn probably – I can’t remember, I was 8) , other events include changing schools, getting ready for changing continents, starting my first ever affair.. Hmm not all positive things but life-changing events nonetheless.

Blujett
Blujett

I LOVE this post and line of inquiry !
Personally, the pattern of significance isn’t there. Dates listed preceed major turning points in my life by about 1.5 yrs & I assume that any correlation I’m finding relates to my natal saturn degree at 0LEO ….super cool investigation .

S
S

Couldn’t agree more with you Blujett. Saturn Leo @ 15 degrees.

AirOnFire
AirOnFire

So how significant is the fact that my natal saturn is at 13 Libra (in the 4th)? And My MC is at 12 Aries (not too far from 13 Aries)? i suspect VERY much so. I am taking a major leap (starting a business in the area I am passionate about but could never see it as anything more than a hobby before) right now, I need to adapt (to a whole new model of family life, another huge recent change) and be true to myself at the same time (I also have natal moon at 10 Aries close to… Read more »

calypso
calypso

without any other details, sounds like you’re evolving! go for it, and good luck with it all 🙂

AirOnFire
AirOnFire

just lost my lengthy reply.. Thanks, Calypso x I really hope it’s evolution, not delusion! Just worried if I am “doing it right” being a libra and all.. Shouldn’t libras pull their heads and wait until better times? Especially with mars retro.. I am turning things upside down, inside out and taking detours. The new business idea I was talking about is teaching something I’ve been enjoying studying/doing for over 4 years but except for that I don’t have any official qualifications/trophies/signs of achievement in the area (pretty sure it’s not required, it’s an entertainment area more than anything still… Read more »

S
S

You sound like you know the path. The chatter which is driven by what is expected of you, can be answered by waiting until 28/29 April. You do sound like you have your head on right. Congrats 🙂

calypso
calypso

i think you’re showing ambition and ingenuity. Also, you have to believe you can and should do it or it won’t happen! It really is amazing what people can do when they believe they can or will. So by all means keep up that visualisation! I got a message from beyond last week that I have to visualise my thesis being finished. Are there risks? There is perhaps the risk that maybe it won’t work out but then you just revert to Plan A or something else. No harm done unless you’re putting a lot at stake and you haven’t… Read more »

AirOnFire
AirOnFire

Thanks so much for the positive thoughts and comments, S and Calypso! And for taking the time to reply! I feel less lonely now with my big decision xo The first day of my new life aka the launch of my creative project is supposed to happen on the 30th, so right after the solar eclipse/new moon. I didn’t plan it to be that way, it was just the first available date on offer (unless I don’t get enough numbers to go ahead). I have been freaking out all day today, then I decided to do the free online tarot… Read more »

calypso
calypso

what house do you have 8º Taurus in?

I think we can all hold ourselves back with fear, including fear that we aren’t ready, but you have to offer what you have to offer. You offer it in your own way. I think this has come to you for a reason, that being because you can do it. Approach with confidence and grace if you can!

calypso
calypso

which it does sound like you are 🙂

AirOnFire
AirOnFire

8 Taurus is in my 10th house, why? Intrigued, can’t seem to figure out the significance..

Yep confidence and grace is my current mantra (thanks for summarising it for me)!

calypso
calypso

it’ll put the solar eclipse in your house of career – perfect! a blessing 🙂

AirOnFire
AirOnFire

Solar eclipse, of course! Definitely sounds like synchronicity..

Ruby Tuesday
Ruby Tuesday

Yes, all major life events and massive changes. Intense times demanding energy reserves which at times I didn’t have. There are themes of struggling through liminal states and metamorphosis.

pi
pi

Ah, I like what you say here. I relate to the kind of liminal state evoked by some of the phases mentioned above, more than such-and such a thing happened.

venusyonce
venusyonce

Ps. I’ve inadvertently scheduled a maybe-date for zap-zone day. Just checked – I have jupiter in the fifth at 13 degrees aquarius. Sextiled by transiting uranus and trined by transiting mars thru my first. The sun is also nearly conjunct my sun in the eighth, activating my scorp-toro sun-pluto opposition. Thoughts?

calypso
calypso

wow, GO FOR IT!!

venusyonce
venusyonce

dayummm. this has been brewing a little while. haha, will do my best … 🙂

Saggoscorp
Saggoscorp

@cap: met first serious boyfriend @aries: travelling and living abroad in jan1998 went on disastrous trip to San Francisco to follow a guy realised might be depressed @cancer: got sacked from job began brand new career which am in now @libra: moving in with abusive boyfriend moved Out and ran away from same Person All Times Have been on some kind of journey I couldn’t really stop and had to power through and make Most of outcome…… Seems similar to now not quite sure what is happening but it’s fast lane stuff and scared to find out the outcome…. Am… Read more »

Emg
Emg

I don’t know that I ever look back and think I did something wrong, but I know full well with the things that didn’t turn out so good, I learned from it. It’s life, the good and the bad. The learning and growing seems to come from the cruddy bits.

freedom sla air
freedom sla air

Mmmm they’re all a year after or before big life changing events

AquaKat
AquaKat

Big shift from SA to NSW in April 89- wasn’t easiest thing to do. Job fell through.

Then I met, in April 97, a light red haired, blue eyed, blue dress wearing temptress who consumed all my thoughts, time, ways, etc… My core Katakan being was sorely tested- BIGTIME

AquaKat
AquaKat

And I’m tryn to stay Zen about it all. But ‘processed food purgings’ will hit the fan v soon. I’m divorcing and thats something I thought I’d never do. (Divorce harder for Cancers- no ifs, buts or maybes). Pluto and Uranus. I’m shell shocked and stunned in my thinking and cant get my act together to do physical works.

Twin-gemini
Twin-gemini

@Capricorn – left parental home and traveled the world
@Aries – decided to move countries and got paperwork sorted to come to Australia, arrived in February
@Cancer – moved house, my son had surgery
@Libra – changed jobs
Lots of ‘endings’ and ‘beginings’ hapening atm and it feels like a roller-coaster – first you have a sick feeling in the stomach, then excitement takes place.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

@ Cap: fresh out of the hospital
@ Aries: moved to a new city, new job
@ Kataka: new job, marriage
@ Libra: moved into house we’re in now, and discovered all of you 🙂

catfish moon
catfish moon

🙂 Yes I discovered ya’ll as well during saturn stay in Libra. I read for months and think my first post was in April.2011 🙂

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Wow.. Yes, Scorp.. Love your Libra impact. “discovered all of you”… me too! Epic!

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Far out, catfish moon & VE! I wonder how many of us were pulled here under the magnetic rays of Saturn in Libra? I have Pluto-Moon in Libra. Interesting! Saturn’s a giver 😉

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I think that’s when I found mystic and you all too

calypso
calypso

yes, me too! Saturn would have been near my Jupe/Merc conjunction in Libra.

hey I was thinking last night about how all the Pluto in Libra women I know are very stylish – is this so Pluto in Libra women? (I have Pluto in Virgo)

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Well, as I have this mutual reception square thing going on– Jupiter-AC Pisces & Neptune-MC Sagg– I tend to dress like a Pisces/Sagg, & in my mind I’m stylish lol. If I’m going out at night, tho, it’s all Scorp, but still I don’t know how stylish I am… I do aim for balance, day or night. Like, if I’m showing cleavage, I don’t show leg, too. And I prefer to only wear real stones, no faux rocks. And if my dress is fem, then I like to pair it with flat boots… Stuff like that.

calypso
calypso

you sound gorgeous! x

calypso
calypso

right, I’ll try and articulate what I see….it’s classic but with edge, femme but not in a pleasing for the gaze of others way, highly aesthetically or arts-aware, patterned rather than bold. I guess it’s about overall balance? Anyway, they all seem to have it, Leos, Toros, Arians, Aquarians. I think I appreciate it so much because of all my planets in Libra, esp the Venus 🙂

pi
pi

Agree on the balance thing. Tight on top, loose on the bottom or vice versa. Skimpy skirt, mysterious top, or femme fatale cleavage, covered legs. I’m not suggesting this as a moral standard, but I like the kind of mix of reveal/ conceal. Leaving something to the imagination?!

Sphinx
Sphinx

“Like, if I’m showing cleavage, I don’t show leg, too.” Omg! This is so fab, I will be forthwith be thinking of mutual reception every time I hit the town!

Sphinx
Sphinx

G’lord darling, her Jupiter in Cancer is in mutual reception to her Moon in Saggi – which is showing!

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

That is so Libra, the balance between skimpy and generous coverage on clothes. I totally do that!

catfish moon
catfish moon

Yes, absolutely!

LOL…NO. I am not stylish, pluto at 6* Libra. Those women probably have more Libra going on.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

So interesting!

Sphinx
Sphinx

That’s a way cool dream.
I think the thing I vibe off those dates is that I was deep down in it.
Lost in my work.

Which makes me hear this track. Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhXv8AcQruU

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Ah, I love Nusrat! I get swept up, swept away, & then gently placed back on the ground by his music. Heavenly. Thanks for this, Sphinx x

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

I love Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan & Eddie Vedder’s – The Long Road

So beautiful 🙂

Sphinx
Sphinx

Will check that, thx!

Sphinx
Sphinx

Thanks for yr concern! But I have a couple scientist friends on this journey with me (both of whom work for Universities, Phd’s etc.) and they are approving using Chlorine Dioxide. Despite the link FDA approves CD for drinking water purification in higher doses than set out in the protocol. Have doc saved somewhere showing it is safely trialled in humans, but more importantly is a different molecule than ‘bleach’? It’s patented for use in blood cleaning (intravenous application) etc plus much more. Actually only I am doing it btw, little one is not. He is still producing ropeworm tho.… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

No worries, just throwing it out there. I’ve read shitloads of arguments for and against, but still can’t find any good science to back it up for safe use in humans. My gut feeling on it is that it’s probably damaging stomach linings and intestinal linings if people are using it as enemas, which is what the gaps diet tries to heal, and that the ill effects are not a healing reaction but the bodies natural reaction to drinking bleach (and it may not be the exact bleach you buy at Woolies, but it’s still chemically a form of industrial… Read more »

Sphinx
Sphinx

Yeah, it’s a tricky one! I have read so much for & against that I ended up trying it for myself as it was the only way I could resolve the issue. I can say it feels good, very mild, but you do feel it over time, like the body is working with it. CD attacks all pathogens at once, so it has to have some impact on the villi, but most people doing it think that the rewards are worth it. Anti-bacterials, antibiotics anti-fungals etc. have side-effects for the liver & kidneys that CD appears not to – so… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Comparing it with lemon or sunlight as bleach doesn’t make it any safer, (more bad science from the church of JimmDunn soz)… but I said I’ll shaddup on it because I can’t be fuqed writing a science thesis on an astro blog, and it’s kind of pointless if you’re convinced it’s some high vibrational medicine etc… different strokes and all that. I was initially open-minded about it, but after everything I’ve read, I wouldn’t swallow a drop of it. I don’t need a personal ‘aha’ moment with it, because I know what it’s being used for and like I said,… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Oh Saturnalien: do not be discouraged! Like you said: different strokes for different folks. Of course you cannot help *every* ASD person/family, but you will help some. That’s the best any of us can hope for: to help some. That’s a realistic & totally attainable goal! You got da skillz, babe. None of us alone can help every person, helping humanity requires an eclectic force 😉 xx

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Thanks Scorporation! I know I will never help every ASD person, (I’ve already helped quite a few) but I haz the mad skillz for the other shit I do too and have always been torn about which direction to go. (Am also making MASSIVE lifestyle and financial sacrifices to be a borderline geriatric student, and will be for a few years to come) I’m just wondering again, as I do on and off, if my ladder would be more usefully placed against another wall type thing… (I’ve helped a lot of peeps with astro and tarot and other woo woo… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Can astro help with your decision making?

You got Pisces NN right? That’s points to healing as destiny. What house is it in?

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

If astrology could help, I’d have sorted this shizz out years ago! I’ve got lots of professional astrologer friends, half say art, the other half say astrology, only one has ever picked healing but she has had firsthand experience of my woo woo so I dunno. According to Vedic astrology, art is the only thing I’m going to earn income from and I should keep healing as a hobby. So far that’s proven true, the time and energy I put into my healing makes it charity work for me, even if I’m being paid… but my art has been on… Read more »

Sphinx
Sphinx

dear Sat, even if you were a chemist nothing would change my next comment – which I have avoided saying till now.

My son’s word count DOUBLED in the last 6 weeks.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

That’s wonderful and like I said, whatever works for you. (But you probably could have gotten the same results using safer herbal de-worming remedies, that’s my point here) x

Sphinx
Sphinx

It’s not just wonderful it’s a fuqing miracle. And I have never encountered the info you blithely speak of until now, that would have y’know, doubled the word count of my autistic child. I already said I am interested to learn more. But you intimate this conversation is so frustrating to you, you are taking it as a ‘sign’? My face burns as I read the word quackery, “pointless if you’re convinced it’s some high vibrational medicine”, can- of-worms, then you assuring me that you don’t do anything on my account but rather for the faceless asd masses you MIGHT… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

I sense that what Saturnalien is expressing is more frustration with herself and “her crossroads” than frustration with you and the discussion.

Could be wrong but that’s what I picked up. 🙂

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

You got it.

TtDavidldavidl
TtDavidldavidl

I’ve left a message at the bottom of this for saturnalien

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I’m sorry you’ve taken my opinions so personally that it makes your face burn. It wasn’t my intention to upset you or be confrontational. Your posts haven’t struck me as someone open to learning more, but someone as keen to defend their stance as an MMS user as I am as keen to defend my stance as “unsafe until tested on humans” and for that reason I’d rather just agree to disagree and drop it once and for all this time. And like Prowlin observed, my frustration is with myself and my crossroads and I’ve been pondering which path to… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

P. S. I’m not a Pluto person (Angular Uranus singleton in Libra makes me a Uranian person, my Pluto barely figures.)

Sphinx
Sphinx

a) My GP & scientist friends who study chemistry never cautioned me except re dosage, so a Google search maketh not a chem degree is all I can suppose. *sips on wine with a drop of hydrogen peroxide to kill the sulphites sold by Dan M’s* b) Since topic raised I have been hunting for bio med dr.’s/parasite interested naturo’s as you could not refer me one? c) ‘Interesting that you support the patriarchal paradigm that psychics and healers should work for the reward of it, but I’m not going there”. Well you just did go there, let’s not beat… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Fascinating conversation…re spirit and making money. After I “woke-up” I figured I could do one of two things 1)psychic stuff or 2) art. I haven’t really done either. But…healing (and art) happens. I have Uranus in the 2nd and its been kind, I have a boutique tech job that rewards my personality. I don’t have solution. I don’t know anything about medical conditions. But I think the conversation is fascinating. Those crossroads are….I suppose there whenever you decide they must be. Because there is no right way, no way to do it all, no healing without changing yourself or healing… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

12thHV, when you die, I want to keep your rbain in a jar under my pillow… are you down with that?

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Sphinx, you are incredible! Mad respect for refusing to quit, refusing to settle. You are very intelligent & intuitive. Light & Love, strong. Trust. x

Sphinx
Sphinx

Thank you lovely. On this, I know you get me, struggle as I do in expressing it all. Kindness in yr love & light is what I am feeling, xx.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Sphinxy, Box is getting too small so I’m replying here. I have expressed several times that I’d really like to drop this because it’s getting us nowhere, but it bothers me greatly that you’re assuming by one sentence I wrote, that I don’t care about you or your boy, and that is simply not true. Clearly my way of being and expressing myself in this world has stirred up something big with you. I suspect that on some level you’re not as 100% sure about this cure as you would like to be so by insinuating I’m a spiritually misguided… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

You are hurting too, babe. Way up there somewhere you said that you’re at a crossroads & that this station (on the cross) was really where you are coming from. That this palpable frustration you are expressing is all about your own inner struggling. The crossroads generate a lot of tension, really churn the pond. So many answers to find. Some of that searching is painful, yes.

I think you said it all up there when you said your point/perspective was all about your crossroads. Your struggle on your sleeves. Authentic. x

I think that assessment was spot on.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Thanks for caring bestscorpnameever. x

Sphinx
Sphinx

Gem touched my heart, touched my sleeve and smiled tonight when I expressed my disappointment at the convo tonight in tears. You are right that I don’t think this is a perfect protocol, it could be dangerous. Just because it works doesn’t mean it is appropriate. That’s partly why boy Cap isn’t on it. Sorry I didn’t mean to insinuate your are spiritually misguided in any way. I know you are in tune and I trust that. The criticism I gave re yr quandary is one I have studied within myself, so you needn’t take it on board, it is… Read more »

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Very interesting discussion. I am with Saturnalien on the unrelated topic. What I have learned is that scientists will be scientists. I am not saying that in a bad way.. it’s just a fact that people love science and believe it is a safe haven for health! I disagree. Not trying to stir up trouble.. but this hits a nerve for me. Why? I was brought up in the martial arts and through God believe that our bodies are built to heal themselves. I might mean using an advisor to help you recover but our bodies were meant to heal… Read more »

starlore
starlore

Hi Sphinx, I don’t know if you will see this as I’m a little late in the discussion, but as someone who has chronic fatigue I have spent a lot of time studying autism cures. I came across the work of Dr Klinghardt a little while ago and tried to listen to a few podcasts / interviews with him. You have probably heard of him, and I feel that he is a very gifted doctor (though like everything these days there are lots of people out there who think he is a dud/shill/etc – one really must go with one’s… Read more »

Sphinx
Sphinx

Thank you Starlore! I am interested! I believe the enemas are part of the chlorine dioxide protocol as they flush out the dead worms which release metals if they stay. I will check this guy out! Yes, CD/MMS is divisive. But for me, chemo drugs contain Yew bark, herbal products are powerful too. So yes it does work, it’s a miracle for some people.. read some parents who were considering institutionalising their kids (due to violent behaviour toward their family etc.) and avoided that through the CD protocol. I think that there are people who don’t have time to wait… Read more »

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Nope.. Nada!!!! Interesting to see those who were impacted by Saturn during those timeframes!

Invictus
Invictus

Wow, what a cool dream! I’m having the most mind blowing dreams of my life right now and so is everyone I talk to. People I would now usually discuss dreams or full moon eclipses with are answering, “how are you?” with references to the full moon eclipse and dreams so rad, they wake them up, make them stop and think for a few hours. I feel part OF rather than APART FROM the world for the first time maybe, especially where my 12th House Neptune and 12th House moon and Lilith vibe has always felt like a barrier, now… Read more »

Emg
Emg

Capi my 10th start of my own practice and moving into the world of business. Aries Child born and husband left that was a 1st house deal for me to big up myself and not rely on anyone! Cancer my first affair and one that would ultimately change my direction and life again. Libra still possibly the most raw as a business partnership failed and I walked away having lost it all. that is 7th house So yes all of these times resonate and feel like they are interconnected to now. Sort of feeling like I would like to scrap… Read more »

Libra9
Libra9

March 1989 went to work for lifetime dream employer
April 1997 gave birth to first child
Oct – Nov 2003 last visits with M-I-L who was dying of cancer
Nov 2010 – had just started new job with the employer from hell, knew I was trapped
Ready for blessings that aren’t in disguise ?