Chariklo – The Lady Chiron

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Meet Chariklo – the partner of Chiron & Lady Shaman.  I am not big on following the Centaurs in astrology so i owe my awareness of Chariklo to mythic astrologer Steve Nelson.  She was only discovered in Feb 1997 – at the same time the Mystic Medusa column first appeared in the newspaper, i like that – and has been in Sagittarius since Dec 2010.  In Feb 2015 she is in Capricorn for several years.

The Centaurs are a belt of asteroids out there in the galaxy between Saturn & Pluto – they all seem to have been attributed with various therapeutic dimensions, which may or may not resonate. Sometimes reading about the Centaurs in astrology (Pholus, Nessus & Co as well as Chiron Chariklo) can feel like time warping into a 90s Gestalt Conference.

WHAT does she mean in your chart? First of all, you can look Chariklo up in your chart by entering 10199 into the Astrodienst Extended Chart options. Mining your own chart and history for astrological data is always bound to lead to an “aha” moment. Her official meaning is as argued over as Chiron. You know, some say Chiron is healing, others that he is like a more hip version of Saturn.

Zane Stein, the acknowledged Centaurs guru makes the connection that sci-fi authors and great scientists tend to have prominent Chariklo in their charts.  She is currently at 26 Sagittarius – is anyone with this point prominent in their charts feeling a weird activation/fresh vibe?

My personal experience of Chiron is that he seems to be amazingly powerful when on the angles – IC/MC & Asc/Dsc – turning points and synchronicity galore. But i have Venus conjunct Chiron so find it difficult to monitor transits TO natal Chiron, if you know what i mean. Let’s gather data on Chariklo – my feeling is that the sci-fi, scientific genius, advances in healing, magical shamanic vibe fits.

Thoughts?

 

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Rainnsain
Rainnsain

My Chiron in Gemini 9th House, Which is Conj my Midheaven Gemini. With the Aspects — -Sun (Pisces) Quintile Chiron, – Moon Bi-Quientile Chiron – Mercury Septile Chiron. -Jupiter Trine Chrion. – Neptune Inconjunct Chiron. – Pluto Inconjunt Chiron. -Saturn Opposition Chiron. -Chiron Conj Chariklo My Chariklo is in Taurus Also 9th house – Sun Sextile Chariklo – Moon Sesquiquadrate Chariklo -Mercury Semi-Square Chariklo -Saturn Oppositon Chariklo -North Node Conjunct Chariklo I’ve since my Saturn return which is currently happening, and i think a chiron return, im not sure but about last year.. lets just say things have gotten really… Read more »

Invictus
Invictus

In so much pain right now.
Just feel like taking up smoking
fucking ouch Chiron ouch

Invictus
Invictus

If I’m correct then she is currently ON my ascendant because I have Saggo rising at 26 degrees
Natally she is at 0 degrees Aries point on my IC (the fourth house)

Darrell
Darrell

And, speaking of the Healing Feminine counterpart of the Wounded Healer, & or the Wounded Femini/Masculine archetypes, here are also a couple of excellent talks with Jessica Garfield-Kabbara from the Philosophy, Consciousness & Cosmology Forum, at http://pccforum.wordpress.com/tag/jessica-garfield-kabbara/ The first talk titled “Trusting Psyche”.. the second titled “Archetypes & a Participatory Cosmos”..

Darrell
Darrell

And for more info on Chariklo, here’s some notes from Melanie Reinhart who wrote the book on “Chiron” titled ‘Chiron & the Healing Journey’.. from an article on the Centaurs currently transiting through the Galactic Centre of our Milky Way in late Sagittarius.. at http://www.melaniereinhart.com/GC-Centaurs.htm In the Greek mythology, Chariklo was the devoted wife of Chiron, and her qualities and themes include a particular capacity for silent witness and reflection which can be an essential part of healing. To ‘hold the space’, serve receptively the healing process on a practical level, to bear with, abide with, persist and endure. The… Read more »

Darrell
Darrell

“Alrighty then,” to quote Jim Carey.. I just looked up my natal Chiralko, at 2deg06 Pisces, in my 11th house, of “hopes & dreams” or “like-minded others”.. Sci-fi.. Well I have always loved sci-fi, ever since Star Wars, Star Trek, & then later seeing “2001”.. with Juno & Pallas in Aquarius, in my 10th house/ Aquarian MC.. I started writing my blog “Whatsitallmeanthen” in Sept 2007, after earlier photographing a sign titled “Be Published” on morning in Melbourne, with my then later noting transiting Chiron almost exactly aligned with the Aquarian Sun & my natal Midheaven at the time.. Yes,… Read more »

Kat
Kat

Oops -goods not hoods!

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Haha! I like hoods: it works. 🙂 You rock, Kat, & your sis sounds awesome, too. She’s still beside you & deflecting shiz, i’m sure. Goddess bless you both xx

Kat
Kat

Scorpation,

Goddess blessings back to you!!!! Thank you!
Xx Kat

Kat
Kat

Chariklo transit conjunct my Prog late Sag ASC.

Natally in Cap /3rd square Mercury.
I have practiced mystic ritual of many traditions.

My late older sister had Lilith/Chariklo/Ceres conjunct in Scorpio on my Jupiter/Neptune. She protected me from our mum’s rage’s and was keenly psychic. She foiled a predatory female boss – my sister prevented much harm to young women by speaking her truth and stating haute.

When my sister read prayers she mesmerized everyone in the room. Definitely had that connection to the hoods!!

Feeling this is a Merlin connection- one who travels between worlds.

Aquaria
Aquaria

I sleep at the wrong times for this blog 😉

Anyway, as for many here, Chariklo natally is in Aries, conjunctissimo BML and part of my Guru stellium

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

I just can’t get my head around these asteroids!!! I confess. I’m old skool and don’t believe in them … actually CAN’T believe in them. Somebody change my mind …. ?

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

I have trouble with Asteriods too….but this one (Chariklo) has rings, and is apparently the only non-planet-thing with rings that we know of…so that’s pretty cool.

But yah, I’m not big on asteroids either.

Sphinx
Sphinx

This is more of a taste of why certain stars might be interesting to gauge. Alpha Orion or Betelguese is a star that has a bit of history. Is this comparable to an asteroid?

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/australian-aboriginals-knew-variable-star-betelgeuse-098982

http://humanityhealing.net/2011/02/stellar-code-betelgeuse/

Sphinx
Sphinx

Well you got me on an internet safari just then! This made me think about the quality of ‘life’ that I perceive is inherent in the stars and planets. For me, the Earth has a life of her own, in that she has an electromagnetic field with a molten core of hematite that crystalline in structure. Crystals = a form of life (see Tesla). Stars are made of 73% hydrogen, 25% helium, and the last 2% is all the other elements. Hydrogen is the core of a star. Hydrogen has a hexagonal crystal structure, they also have a magnetic field… Read more »

Sphinx
Sphinx

Soz, I had to add that I discovered Chariklo has possibly got a magnetic field (due to the evidence of rings). This makes it a little more exciting I think!

Silver Huang
Silver Huang

My natal Chariklo is conjunct MC in Taurus in 9th House, trining Sun, Moon & Mercury and square AC. My natal Chiron’s also conjunct MC in Taurus but in 10th House, trining Sun & Moon. So there’s some relation there, I guess? Chariklo in transit is conjunct my natal Neptune. Not sure about fresh activation vibe only because so much is going on right now it’s hard to tell!

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

I’ve never heard of the “more hip version of Saturn” about Chiron.
I love it!!! 😀 It’s better than the wounded healer concept which I can’t wrap my head around. Not crazy about Chiron.

I have Chariklo in Aqua in 2nd house conjunct Saturn. I do love Sci-fi but I relate that to my Saggo moon.

Will have to keep my eye on Chariklo… see what transpires when it conjuncts my Cap Ascendant in 2015.

davidl
davidl

Maybe you’ll find out that your sexy barista is actually a clone. A google search will lead you to his creator. (A lab in Switzerland). You sell you major degree works to the Guggenheim and have enough to buy 2 clones of Mr. Perfect. One for now, and one for later.
Together you grow and inspire each other. (his software upgrades are expensive but fabulous). Your secret remains one and all is good.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

A replicant barista… 😀
The smell of coffee wafting through my futuristic beach side studio. His perfect coffee stained Mars in Virgo hands…. *sigh*
How have I not had a fling with a barista with my Gem NN in 6th? One day….

Thanks David, you’ve momentarily cheered me up. Having Chiron return.
x

Pi
Pi

spontaneous astro-gaga.. nice work x a caffeinated scorpbot’s dream!

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

I was just looking up astronomical stuff on Chariklo and did you know it has a ring? Just like Saturn and Uranus!

SourPatch
SourPatch

Mine conjunction my unaspected Gemini Venus and I live for Sci-Fi.

hdq
hdq

She be kickin’ it with me SN at 24 and 22 Aries, respectively. I like science and sci-fi (um, yeah, who doesn’t…) but don’t feel particularly drawn to it until it gets into the realm of woowoo. Not into intellectual masturbation. Healing, definitely. There’s gotta be tangibility to it. I suppose that could be properly not doing 11th house SN energies.
Gem daughter has charliko rising from the 12th- she ADORES science and mythology and fantasy and the like. Little lioness has it conjunct her 8th house Scorpio moon. She is an extraordinary energy healer. 🙂

caprikittie
caprikittie

She’s conjunct my natal Chiron at the moment in the 4th house. I’m adjusting and renewing my health routines and generally feeling a strong surge of purpose and energy. She’s at 17 degrees Sag in my natal chart.

Awatea
Awatea

I have both Chiron and Chariklo in my natal 1st house – interesting, and it fits.

I also have Neptune in my natal chart at 26 Sag – right where Chariklo is now… I’m still a newbie and not really sure what this means – but I seem to be vibing ‘awesome’ at the moment, yes definitely feeling fresh… like all the old crap of the last few years has broken off in a big chunk and floated away, out of my psyche….

Baristagem
Baristagem

Chariklo has transited across MC & Neptune. I’m wondering if this has coincided with a change of direction in what I want to do for a living. Natal, Chariklo sits in 2nd house with Chiron & trines Jupiter 😯

davidl
davidl

Remember…less work, more play makes a happy Baristagem. If change means more personal and creative freedom, go for it.

Baristagem
Baristagem

More play definitely makes a happy baristagem! 😀 Thanks David, I’m gonna close my eyes a teeny bit & go for it!

Twin-gemini
Twin-gemini

Kiron sits 2′ Aries on my DC and Chariklo is in my 5th House (in Piscies) and Kiron is visiting her there atm. I am loving these energies! With your help Mystic – I am in my power during this Zap zone and it is going to be awesome!

Sparkling Leo
Sparkling Leo

Just looked up where Chariklo is now. 26-28 degree Sag in 3rd house. Hard to read the green ink in the transit chart.

Sparkling Leo
Sparkling Leo

My 1st house is getting crowded with all these lesser known folks. Chariklo, Lilith, Pallas, Ceres, Vesta, Eros all in Scorpio! Sag crosses both 2nd and 3rd house -both empty. I’m still learning here and getting a feel for these things. If anyone wants to comment to help my learning curve here please do. It just seems that if you want to know something deep and dark translated into light, my 1st house has a lot of tools. I don’t know if this is the way to work or think about astrology. The Sci-Fi comments just pulled me in!

Md1990
Md1990

Transiting Chariklo is conj my natal Sag Moon (27 degrees) right now in my 1st house. What kind of energy do you think this will bring?

Also, my natal Chariklo falls in my 7th at 0 deg Cancer.

Elise
Elise

In the 8th house, Gemini, along with black moon Lilith (Taurus) and Chiron (Gemini), opposite my natal Saturn.

I have a Sagittarius stellium and my sun is at 28 degrees… I’ve been having a lot of fresh vibes, but I have been looking at Uranus sitting on my moon in Aries.

Having trouble talking to muggles lately. Need to embrace the haute seclusion promoted in the weekly scopes.

Centaurus
Centaurus

She be right on my MC just in the 10th which she shares with Chiron.

It’s startling actually as I think this ties in with some recent insight on nodes etc which are all around healing/teaching.

Changes are coming.. this GCC (not to be confused with GFC right) has seen me make a big decisions that was seemingly out of nowhere but really wasn’t.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Far out, that’s an insanely cool placement, having the husband and wife team together on your MC! Intense…

Sphinx
Sphinx

Similar placement!
Chiron, Chariklo & Eris in Aries, 10th House trine my Saggitarius NN.
(Near my Pisces MC, but not on it).

Been wondering if Hygeia was a good match for Chiron, but I like this lady better I think.

Centaurus
Centaurus

Haha.. yes intense, I agree. They’re not conjunct as she is dead on my MC and he’s got Saturn sitting in between him and his lass.. or other way around and… well that might explain a bit too? He’s also got Ceres conjunct on the other side. Makes me think there’s a story here I hadn’t considered. My 10th is Pisces. I have Eris in Aries though. I know a few that do.. is he a slow mover? I think she sounds like a Japanese animated jujitsu warrior or something with that name but I don’t want to diminish her… Read more »

Centaurus
Centaurus

Actually she is trine Jupiter in the 2nd (Gem) and he has a trine with Vesta but he squares Mercury conjunct my sun.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Well, there goes my romantic vision of husband and wife asteroids with wet blanket Saturn sitting between them! Any planet or asteroid conjunct a chart angle is extra significant, so there’s bound to be a story in there – it might be worth playing around with keywords for that lot and see what you come up with… maverick, healer, turning points, boundaries (mega important for you as a healer), discipline, teaching, mother child relationships, father child relationships, nurturing, nutrition… I’m guessing you’d be amazing at some sort of child welfare work, working with eating disorders, nutritional medicine or running a… Read more »

Pi
Pi

OMG
ASTRO MENU
awesome

Centaurus
Centaurus

Wow Sats.. you just had me staring at the screen for a moment with a bit of a ‘huh’ vibe. I have to ponder this a bit more deeply. I have copied this to reflect on later.. my skills aren’t in trying to find old posts on the blog lol. You’re very insightful lady! I resonate with a lot of that and am primed for further reinvention later this year. It is a relentless pursuit willing or not that my soul has me quest for and recently have been pondering nutritional medicine/food. I am a bit of a gun in… Read more »

SaturnOracle ii
SaturnOracle ii

Rad! If nutritional medicine or similar is calling you, then GO for it, you will fuqing rock it in a way the world has not known before!

Happy reinventing! x

P.S. love my new name 😀

Centaurus
Centaurus

Suits you 🙂 x

catfish moon
catfish moon

Chariklo is at 15* Aries in my 8th house. It is conjunct my 14* Aries Eris.
Sci-fi sex??? LOL

blujett8
blujett8

wow – yeh. pretty cool .

got it in 12th with jup/ chiron opp merc/uranus. 6/12 is big career territory for me & it fits.
pushing the envelope w healing techniques now and prior was sciency misfit antsy for new visions in a very restricted land.

Kim
Kim

Hmmm….interesting. At the 0 degree Aries Point, she effectively turns my natal T square (Venus @ 0 CAN, Mars @ 29 GEM, PLUTO @ 29 VIR & Jupiter @ 4 CAP) into a grand Cross. Still not sure what it means though…

Kim
Kim

I’m curious about the Chiron on the angles though…I have a prominent natal Chiron (conjunct moon & opponsite uranus) and it is currently transiting my DC.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Natal Chariklo is at 27 Pisces. Currently it is on my MC. And transiting Chiron is conjunct my ASC — for a long time to come.

Odd things are happening but I am set on sailing my life. The only vibe is my wish to slither out of my previous persona.

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Yes, I do think the “Lady Chiron” label fits….though it may need to be fleshed out some more, because I sense she is more than just this facet. Tr. Chariklo over natal Moon at the moment, and I’ve found myself in the orbit of a disproportionate amount of female shamans! Like, literally – women either are shamans in the South American tradition or follow The Red Road in terms of their spiritual path! Zane Stein writes of her being a door opener, and these women have indeed opened some doors for me both in terms of opportunity (transiting the sign… Read more »

calypso
calypso

it’s something people have been saying about Marquez this week

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Yeah, ‘reality stranger than fiction’, that resonates for sure!

withlovefromjupiter
withlovefromjupiter

chariklo conjunct my ASC. at 0 Cancer. it would be useful to know in which powerful ways it works itself in my chart, Since it is now at 26 Sagittarius, since my natal Venus is at 21 would it mean it is conjuncting it by transit? If currently it is conjuncting natal Venus.. then I think I definetely know what it’s all about. I’ve been really working hard on being 100% honest in relationships (not that easy for a sun and venus sag, moon in leo and mutual reception with jupiter being in leo) even if that means getting dumped… Read more »

dia.astro
dia.astro

Totally worth mentioning her rings if previous commenter hasn’t already! Chariklo is the only known non-planet to have rings… and the discovery that she has rings, came as she was transiting the galactic center in grand trine with Athena and Sekhmet.

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

oooh! That IS cool!

Pi
Pi

partying in the galactic centre with some other heavy hittin’ goddesses. ring bling.

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Natal Chariklo last degrees Aqua conj my Asc on the 12th house side trine my Venus in Gemini. Transiting Chariklo is sextiling natal placement and I have to say a lot of spooky magic stuff has just been coming to me lately. Gotta read more now….

Pi
Pi

i want to make a comment about uranus exact on my MC now and ok so that means ze planetz are aligned all up in my chart angles and help help what do do to make the most of this? audition for something?? i don’t have time! right now! buy a lottery ticket? buy tinned food, batteries, five 10L containers of water and move to a shed in the outback? chat up a handsome stranger? nothing, let it all come to me? …but then a comment like that would not be related to this post. [the asteroid is at 18… Read more »

Pi
Pi

actually never mind, i’ll do that thing i tell other people to do, which is just google it. 😉

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Or you could do all those things! Or none of those things. I’m making a bow: want to make a bow with me?

I just broke it down to my employer: my health stuff ( = needed time off from work), and my choice to not go full time afterall. A conversation I’ve been putting off for two weeks, waiting for the right time. Usually the last minute is the right time lol. Chariklo transiting my 10th is good timing, I think. Healing strategy 😉 x

Pi
Pi

You’ll need an arrowsmith too 🙂

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Career innovation? Mystics zap zone astro hack might be helpful if you haven’t got it and worked through it already…

Pi
Pi

yes, that’s on my mind, def. but I simply don’t know what else to innovate. with the time and skills that I have. the pisces scopes are right, we did our personal ZZ a couple of years ago when it was saturn in virgo opposite Uranus (and Jupiter) in pisces for a couple of years. I mean I have my ideas for next-gen awesomeness and … hang on…. hmmm *cogs turning in brain* yep.. got it… a saggi girlfriend i need to spend more time with 🙂 did have some very peaceful clarity while starting into space at work today,… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

I like the way you think, Pi xx

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

It was exact for me not so long ago, but so much going on at once, I can’t remember if I did anything specific to max it out. I got shitloads of ‘downloads’ of info for astrology and healing and massive fuqing urges to renovate my house (also got genius information as to how I can afford to make that happen with no change to current budget)… So yeah, maybe not stress so much about doing ‘something’ right now if you’re struggling to work out what that something should be, just getting inspired by new ideas/possibilities/plans coming through for the… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Charkilo conjunct Mars and North Node in Pisces in 9th = alien, Mensa IQ genius, shaman of sorts, reluctant healer, straight A science student, and as of yesterday, renowned Google scientist.

I also have asteroid Pythia (oracle of Delphi) with that bunch too.

Interesting… cheers Mystic! x

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Woke up having an epiphany! That shizz all trines my 5th house Scorp Moon, which fits with my interest in healing ASD kids (sextiles my Sun, so perhaps that symbolises the opportunity I had to heal myself with all the ‘out there’ shizz first.)

I’m still half asleep and waiting for my triple espresso to kick in, but I think my crossroads / mid-life crisis saga just got solved, hallefuqinlujah!

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

that’s awesome!!! Yaay 🙂

Forgot to say on the other thread that being at a crossroads is a great position to be in (been there many times since Pluto entered Cap in 2008) as it means you’re one step closer to your path. Even if you choose the wrong path or make a few detours (made a few of those too. LOL) along the way, it’s all part of the journey…. You know all that.

Anyhoo, good to hear your epiphany came early and before the new moon.
x

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Thanks Scorpy! I was a bit worried I might be way off track because I couldn’t see the healing shizz in my chart (unless I use whole sign house system, in which case it stands out like dogs goolies) and figured my interest is only there because it’s in my genes (all my dads side of the family are in medicine, mums side all artists and entrepreneurial types), but now it looks pretty clear, I think… But my ephiphany just got put on hold! Now my coffee and adrenal herbs have kicked in, and I’ve discovered a straight forward comment… Read more »

Pi
Pi

SA are you happy to pass on the herbal parasite treatment thing you mentioned? time to worm the pets, so maybe time for the humans too.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Here ya go (I don’t think they post to Australia so you’ll have to google the product to find a place that does as I don’t think you can buy it anywhere in oz) x

#tab

The guy who came up with these formulations was way ahead of his time in the healing field, everyone else is just starting to catch up. A beautiful soul too. x

name
name

if you want a substitute eutherol is the one they can send here – has similar indications as vermex minus the ingredients that are illegal in oz. They will let you know if what you’ve ordered isn’t able to be sent because they get fined thousands of $ if they try.

name
name

have just read some of the posts elsewhere and hope no-one takes the above as butting in – intention was to share the knowledge I have of this product. It was the advice given to me by the makers when I tried to have verm-ex, now known as verm-ez posted and couldn’t. Happy purging 😉

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Interesting – thanks for this info!

I’ve never had any trouble getting it sent here, but I’ve never ordered it from the site I linked to, so maybe I’ve been lucky (the site I buy it from have other products they wont send to Australia for reasons you mentioned, but Verm-ex isn’t on the list of stuff they wont send.)

Good to know this in case I have problems getting it in the future. 🙂

name
name

I think its the green husk of black walnut and the wormwood that customs have a problem with. You’ve been really lucky to get that in – customs apparently have a policy of watching Harker products. You can get parasite tinctures and elixirs here but they’re made with local walnut and wormwood. It also saves postage and hassle – didn’t say that initially because Malcolm deserves his time in the sun x

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I can only recommend brands I’ve personally tried and tested and who I know have high standars, good ethics etc. Also, Malcom’s knowledge literally saved my life at one stage, so I’m happy to pay extra to support his brand. As for the customs thing, there are ways to label products honestly that don’t attract a search, but that’s stuff I’d rather not discuss on a public forum 😉

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I meant the customs declaration label, not the product label, doh!

name
name

I suspect the fact you don’t buy direct from them helps – they are targetted.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Yeah for sure, that’s why I put the Google tip when I posted the link 😉

It’s crazy because I’m pretty sure the wormwood importing laws came about to stop real absinthe being imported here but everyone suffers…(could be wrong on that though)

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Not really… the novelty has worn off. It’s not an easy path I’ve chosen – one full of uncertainty and doubt and no guarantees of the outcome once I reach the end. But that is no reason to give up. I could ramble on and on about this but it would consume too much time and really must get cracking on some projects this week. And yes, of course I know that feeling that time is running out. As the saying goes “life is not a rehearsal..” just do what’s right for now. Who knows where it will lead… maybe… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I feel ya on your path struggles Scorpy, (all the uncertainty of a career at the end of an art degree was the reason I went into corporate slavery instead of fine arts when I left school – I didn’t want to end up a ‘starving artist’, ironically the corporate slavery was so soul-destroying, I ended up a starving corporate slave instead but that’s another story… Hang in there, difficult paths are often the most rewarding in the long run. (My Cap rising mum took up art late in life after she got fired from her job, and she’s ended… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Hahaha… well I didn’t want to be a ‘starving artist’ either. Back in the 80’s it would have been madness to go down that path. So yeah I became a “commercial artist”. That’s what designers were called then. I loved it for many, many years. Especially in the 80’s before computers came along. I couldn’t believe I was actually getting paid for it. But that all changed with technology and I too became a corporate slave. “soul-destroying” is a PERFECT description. UGH. Glad I’ve left all that behind in 2008.

Good to hear about your mum.

x

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I wanted to be a grapho when I was 13! A family friend worked for a well known graphic design company and I drew a piss-take of their magazine cover which she took to work to show her boss and he wanted me to do more stuff for them! I never got the chance because I moved countries 🙁 Was put off studying it in the 80’s after I saw the grapho students annual final exhibition and figured I didn’t have that much talent after all, and should probably go fine art if I was going to do art at… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

My Virgo sis loves House. So I do too even though i don’t watch it (have seen it before). OK she is known to be cantankerous but that is also because she is a genius. Anything that makes her laugh is a GOOD THING.

People who nickname you after TV characters are trying to find the box u came in.

May you have guidance from Hecate, goddess of the crossroads.
http://www.facade.com/tarot/description/?Deck=william_blake&Card=3

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I have two genius and occasionally cantankerous Virgo soul sisters who love House too, they aren’t the peeps who call me House though! I’m not particularly cantankerous, overall chilled as fuq to the point people seek out my presence because being around me is calming) but I do tend to speak my mind and people either respect that or get offended and see it as being cantankerous 😀 I had a dream the other night that a group of strangers I was thrown into a situation with, took an instant dislike to me and joined together to bully me. I… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Ew yukky dream but i can totally see the relation to recent comm-storms, and dreaming this is important. Anyway, speaking one’s mind is better than deception, and fair communication is when one is also a good listener. Yes, Hecate bless you xx

Pi
Pi

oh sorry! this wasn’t meant to totally gloss over your very heartfelt comment.

there are so so many examples of people who transition across (or run in parallel) a new career path or three. I prefer to say “skill set”, beige as that sounds, as it’s transferable and you can add skillz on like lego blocks, … ‘career’ feels a bit retrospective and dusty to me. maybe i am prejudiced..

Pi
Pi

ugh missed the main thing i wanted to say. if you need a boost, or affirmation, hunt down stories about career-changers, people starting new things “later in life” (sorry i know), etc x
or have a conversation with “future-saturnalien” – if you were looking back on your life, what would you want to see.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I don’t need a boost or inspiration about starting a new career. I’ve done that a few times now, my issue is more akin to being a kid in a candy shop and having too much yummy stuff to choose from but having to choose which yummy stuff I want most…

As for the future Saturnalien, unfortunately my brain isn’t wired for projecting myself into the future in such a fashion.

I wasn’t crying out for help, just thinking aloud but thanks anyway! x

The Midheaven
The Midheaven

Love this! I have Chariklo exactly conjunct my Gemini moon. Could explain my innate draw towards all things mystical, it’s like a shamanic tractor beam!

Chariklo is 2 degrees away from my Saturn/Uranus conjunction & there has certainly been a lot if restructuring/innovating in my life as of late.

Thanks for sharing, Mystic!

moggycat
moggycat

Wow… Mine is conjunct my MC and Moon in Aries, and Quintile my ASC……?

calypso
calypso

my 2nd son has Chariklo closely conjunct Jupiter in the 1st house – in fact, it looks like he has Chariklo rising….funnily enough I am reading him the wizard of earthsea atm, and he is loving it. he likes to meditate 🙂 the last 2 things he got me to add to his ipod were a Foster the People song and a golden light meditation, lol. what a cutie. my ex has NChariklo 2 mins off my MC (I checked cos scientist). Dunno what that means…. my bff with Chiron exact rising is neither hip, nor Saturnian, but she is… Read more »

S
S

Snap CS. I listened to a little Foster The People on the bus today. Love your work CS x

calypso
calypso

<3

Fifi
Fifi

Great name! Neptune transit almost conjunct natal Chariklo in 12th and transiting Chariklo on my MC – like to think she may be softening the impact of Pluto demolition/reconstruction in my 10th (which is big but pretty painless, so far..)

Congratulations on the column and cool coincidence – didn’t realise it was that many years I’d been enjoying it!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

“Has been in Sagittarius since Dec 2010. In Feb 2010 she is in Capricorn for several years.” Those dates are not adding up.

Natal Chariklo at 9 Aries 7th house
Transiting Chariklo exact conjunct my IC at the moment.

Fresh vibe? I don’t know. Yes? Everything in my life is still kind of new (new name, house, pets, job within the last six months or so).

davidl
davidl

Well think about it ? Maybe it’s a typo ? And she meant 2015 ? Seriously, your a fuqing legend in your own lunchtime at the moment honey. Nothing gets past you ? It’s starting to really get booooring .
Have a nice day.

Pi
Pi

whoa!
easy there tiger.
love from pi x

PS don’t bite my head off because I said this pls. tensions seem to be running high here and there on this here blog atm. hopefully only til that square turns back into a circle or something less ninja.

calypso
calypso

a circle, or a <3 or something….ah, one day we'll look back on this time with fondness 😯

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Yes. A typo.

I have been thinking I spend way too much time on this blog.

Pi
Pi

Me too, if it makes you feel any better. Am checking out til the new moon at least, for time management reasons. Also my writing energy could be better spent for my own stuff.

hdq
hdq

Ah, don’t let the self-appointed by virtue of seniority or ego or whatever blog police get you down. I don’t know if it’s opposing mars retro desire to not be pass-agg and so just full on agg… Actually IDGAF why. It’s not a good look. YOU are lovely and so are your comments.

davidl
davidl

Such a helpful supportive comment. Well, it is, if we bypass the discriminatory remarks, the false assumptions, the false reference to violence . The misandry, yeah, google that one, its a rare word spoken around hear. ? ….so far we couldn’t say that was helpful. Or not in my experience. So that leaves the last line “YOU are lovely and so are your comments….. oh, the YOU is capitalised here… is that yelling or just pointing the finger in a sort of back handed way ? ok. so, — are lovely and so are your comments. Thats great, I agree.… Read more »

hdq
hdq

oh ugh, i really don’t have the energy for this. regarding your string of accusations (?)- discriminatory, referring to violence, misandrous (seriously? your male-ness has anything to do with this?)- i suppose if you want to read my comment in that way, that’s your prerogative (crap now bobby brown stuck in my head!). what it comes down to is this: i respect your right to be a prickly old fuq, but when it crosses the line into meanness and straight-up aggressiveness, it ceases to be funny or edgy or ok. you’ve been doing it a lot lately, and so has… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Crabs are getting pinged too … I’ve been that close to just blowing my stack the past week – not here but out there in the world. But ya know … serenity NOW and all that. 😉

sweetpea
sweetpea

I was a bitch in order to burn this b ridge. Wasn’t necessarily conscious at the time but thats what it was.

Sure others will survive.

And sure that others know what is true in their heart as far as their own intentions, judgements, etc.

sweetea
sweetea

Sides, Iva davies said so…

x

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I don’t know what he’s on about HDQ. But I’m more about what Pi said. Where am I investing my time? I love you and pretty much all the commentors here and david senior lots of the time – he’s a crank but generally insightful. Fuck him. I’m tired of giving myself out like this. So confusing because I don’t know you and I love you and wish I could hug you right now. Kind of like I’m scared of breaking up but its time to move on sort of thing. None of this is real but its so important… Read more »

calypso
calypso

this space is supportive and entertaining and interesting and inspiring and consoling in varying degrees at varying times, but it’s less clear how productive it is for us in our own lives and yes, I am one of those who is stuck or dependent here and have felt a shift coming too, for a while now.

bless dear David, he’s just playing his corner part in the cardinal cross that will blast a few of us out of here and into our own projects.

lots of love to you, catch up with you sometime x

davidl
davidl

Don’t be silly, you love and are loved. Don’t go running off. By the way this place is real for me ? Its precious to me and I thought to you ? You don’t just throw that out !
I apologise for being rude (aka ME!!!).
It was just one too many ‘considered opinions’ on a typo. I have pluto in virgo, my 3rd house. You would like me in person, I like you, we can talk ? can’t we ? or are just a big pussy 🙂

david5379
david5379

Remember how super lame I was and was on here all the time going through something terrible, now I am not on here as often, and I have gotten better. I wouldn’t say this place is the main reason for that, but it helped a lot. Lots of other people have been helped in varying degrees, that is real. Its okay to vary how often you come on here, and nothing is wrong with staying in touch for the sake of it, there are a lot of cool people here. Sure its just a comment section, but don’t cheapen it… Read more »

david5379
david5379

*technically you can do too much of that*

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

You have never been super lame. Nobody here is super lame. All of you are amazing people with interesting stories and lives. I’m so glad to know everyone here even if we’ve never met in the flesh.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Nicely said David. (though I’m with EEL, you’ve never struck me as lame, let alone super lame…)

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Good luck with that! I find this blog a bit Hotel California, in that ‘you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave’…

S
S

Strike up the band Saturnalien.
Bad memories of that track..shit environment and thank fuq that’s in the past. x

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

No band, just a capella, but I’ll sing you Chinese Interlude now instead.. x

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Hey don’t go away and stuff … or if you need a break then be sure to come back. I’ve been around here on this blog now since ’07 and yeah periodically we have snits … you know – purgings of some angst. Me and davey had a massive one a few years ago but we got passed it. I know others who have had interpersonal snits too from time to time … but ya’ know generally it blows over. I can hear that you’re questioning a lot of stuff in your life at the mo’ and seem to be… Read more »

davidl
davidl

I’m so glad you found the you you. You know, knowing the you you has made all the difference to meeeee. The meeee meeeee of course. x

Pi
Pi

crikey, I go away for the day expecting this page to have had a comment meltdown thanks to a possible comment-hand-grenade lobbed into the mix, and instead it’s a hug-fest. 😀 *stacks on hugs*

S
S

Damn it I want those boots

LotusFlower
LotusFlower

Yes me too! My Sagg rising is all over this look. Supergrip soles too – go anywhere boots 😉

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Chariklo 1st house Aries 7°, which makes her trine my NN-Neptune in Sagg/9th house, & opposite my Pluto-Moon in Libra/7th house. My Chiron is also 1st house, 21° Aries.

26° Sagg is my empty 10th house, so transiting Chariklo gets the place all to herself.

I am having trouble detangling significance. All I know is that all night I dreamt of shagging Leo DiCaprio & I’m sorry I woke up.

S
S

Hello Scorporation Inc.
I’ve got Aries @ 24 degrees. Would love any intel on this placement.

S
S

Chariklo sits in my 2nd House.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Ah, your Chariklo, my Chiron. Kismet.

I finally saw The Hunger Games two days ago. It reminded me of a bad dream I had as a kid. That said, great fuqing movie! Can’t wait to see the others.

*making bows & arrows*

x Agent S

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

(My natal 4th is empty, too, & there’s nothing there currently by way of transit, either.)

Although, transiting Uranus just flew over my natal Chariklo… But my chart has been so lit up in other ways, can’t isolate the Chariklo variable.

S
S

How about as Mystic said “fresh vibe.” Does that resonate for you?

S
S
Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Wow! Thank you for this, S. Bookmarked.

My Chariklo biz is sort of the opposite of JFK’s!

S
S

How fancy of you. If that’s any consolation I am missing my black suede Monroe boots. Size AA kick ass. 😉

LotusFlower
LotusFlower

Yep me too, astrotwin. At Aries 8 here to my Chiron Aries 22 (both in 3rd house – healing through words?) Not doing much, bar opposing my natal Pluto. Go back to sleep, tap that healing love vein instead 😉

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Aww yeah: now you’re talking. Sweet dreams 😉
x

S
S

Chiron @ 5 degrees Toro 3rd House.
I’ll bow out of this Chiron Aries lovefest…it could end in a flesh wound 😉

Pi
Pi

😀

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

It makes us blood sisters or something. Kia kaha!

Kat
Kat

To ponder- Chariklo placements of Ursula LeGuin? The super awesome Kim Falconer?

Sadge
Sadge

Yes! I have sun, 19 Sadge , North node 18 Sadge, mercury 23 Sadge , and Juno, all squiged in right there together in Sadge alongside my IC! And yes, aiming high at the moment, clearing out sugar, and finding the energy electric of this April! Fantastic. Great to find out about her, will look up where she is on chart.

Mystic Medusa
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