Asteroid Herodias – Another Bad Girl Biblical Upstart

Biblical Bad Girl Heroines

Here at Pseudo-Intellectual Astro Bitch Central we LOVE our bad girl biblical upstarts – Jezebel, for instance. Not to mention Lilith.

So how about asteroid Herodias – number 546 if you want to use the Astrodienst Extended Chart options to to throw her into your chart.

She is currently at 23 Taurus – opposite Saturn – and is natally conjunct my MOON.

Who was she?  It depends who you’re asking. Christians/the Bible have her on a feminine badness scale up there with first-wife-of-Adam Ms Lilith (see Bitchcraft for more on her)  the above-linked Jezebel and the Whore of Babylon herself. AKA the Goddess Ishtar.   Keen biblical scholars will recall that she rocks up riding a Dragon, wearing a crown with the 12 signs of the Zodiac on it.

ANYWAY – Herodias is accused of several schizzy deeds in the Bible – getitng her daughter Salome and/or herself to seductively perform the Dance of the Seven Veils so as to distract someone or rather (it is honestly really vague and yet complex) long enough to have John the Baptist killed and his head served up, Game of Thrones style.

Other charges against her:  Being a divorcee who nonetheless got King Herod to marry her. Adultery. Being a witch. Being actually a Supernatural Evil Feminine being. Inciting lascivious crap amongst the decent womenfolk. Worshipping the Moon Goddess Diana and that her real name was Herodiana.

She inspired a cult devotion, with some even saying she was Hecate, the Queen of the Witches herself.  In 943 AD, long after her time, the Bishop Of Verona was threatened enough to formally denounce “those who believe that Herodias rules one third of the world.”   Some Christian myths say she was made into a sort of immortal bitch bird, permitted to rest only on treetops between midnight and dawn.

Asteroid 546 Herodias – who wants to go there?

 

Image: Paul Delaroche – Herodias

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Tager Soto
Tager Soto

ok now i’m scared i have 22 liith, 17 sun, 11, ceres, 3 mean node, and now Herodias 13, all in capricorn, all in 12 house. And it has more aspects with another planets and points that ANY planet in my house. Neither i had the dragon, and the dance, or i’m going to have it :/

nebulous virgo
nebulous virgo

nice one – at 28 scorpio – thus conjunct my eros/mars at 27 scorpio and uranus at 0 saggo… resonates somehow.

nebulous virgo
nebulous virgo

oh, and at the 8th house cusp…

New Age Leo
New Age Leo

OMG she is right on my ascendant – less than one degree orb. Does this mean I am destined to become a whore ? Mind you one of my best mates channels Ishtar (in some weird ancient language that I can bizarrely understand), and apparently we go way way back. One drunken night in Byron, Ishtar came through and told me I always was a slut. It was hilarious at the time…

The Contessa
The Contessa

Ooh, she’s in Taurus … opp Nyx/Chiron in Scorp, trine Pythia/Asc in Cap, sextile Sun in Pisces, sextile Hekate/Dsc in Cancer … why, it’s a regular little sewing circle, ain’t it? …

TripleSagg
TripleSagg

Sextile my Mercury in Scorpio 6th House at 19deg.

Plin
Plin

Huh. Right there in my Scorpio 3rd house, along with Neptune, Venus and Mars. Smack on top of my Neptune at 18 degrees, conjunct Venus at 22. She sextiles my (Capricorn, ugh) Moon, as well as my Virgoan Uranus and Pluto.

I’m trying to interpret this, but not sure what it means. I’m guessing she plays a powerful role in my dreams and fantasies, as well as my love life, throwing a bit of a gleeful wrench in the works when it comes to my psyche.

May explain my “secretly naughty girl next door”-ness…

Plin
Plin

Oh, and she’s square my 6th house Aquarian Lilith. No idea what to make of that. Ideas welcome!

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen

being an ex-Catholic I love the female badasses in the Bible…rebels.

My Herodias is conjunct my DC, a few degrees into my aquarius 7th house. I’m gay and not really searching for a ‘soul mate’ or whatever so maybe she has something to do with my unconventional-ness.

Twin-gemini
Twin-gemini

Thanks Mystic – it is always room to expand the knowledge of us peeps, so to speek.
The darlink Herodias is in my chart at 23′ Gemini, conjuct my Natal Moon in Gemini – 9 house, squares Pluto and Uranus both in Virgo in 12 house.
That as far as I can ‘read’ my chart. Any thoughts?

Twin-gemini
Twin-gemini

…and sextiles Saturn in Aries in my 7th house… btw – if the tiny pic of sextile is in blue – is it a ‘good’ one?

Sparkling Leo
Sparkling Leo

Mine’s 4th house 20 degrees Capricorn conjunct Pholus, looks like opposite Venus and Saturn in 10 th house and close to my MC. Am I in trouble? Or am I just trouble? 😉

hdq
hdq

I’ve got her in Leo conjunct my IC on the 4th house side which makes her conjunct Isis, Osiris, and Sekhmet, and sextiling sun and NN (exact midpoint). Rawr that’s some hidden power! All my (recent and known, at least) ancestors are sooooo boringly respectable though… There’s gotta be another hidden dragon queen in there somewhere!!

Nr
Nr

Absolutely.

Pi
Pi

She’s at 24 Cancer, my 1st house. So, all of my personal planets are around 23-29 degrees, so lots of aspects.

At 23 Toro how, she is conjunct my jupiter and Lilith. Excuse me while I go and incite some lascivious crap amongst the decent womenfolk. 😈

Pi
Pi

*now ..not how.

LotusFlower
LotusFlower

Mine’s in early Capricorn, not really doing a whole lot… Ah well, can’t all be stars (geddit?) I suppose. I love the asteroid astrology MM – thanks for this heads up. It was your book on Eros & Psyche that first led me to idly google you – wonder if that Mystic Medusa has a website?… – talk about result! Hooked, if not blown away 😉 I’d so, so, so love a book that covers aspects between the key asteroids and the planets and houses. Along the lines of: what does it mean if your Eros sits bang on their… Read more »

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

I also have Herodias in Capricorn/3rd House (natal). Must grok more info. Bitchy Communications, yes I unfortunately have that potential.

LotusFlower
LotusFlower

3rd house & Capricorn sound like POWERFUL communications! Mine is 1st house.

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Bad girl. Herodias 1 degree conjunct my Leo Sun in the 6th house. I’m feeling very bad tonight…. explains a lot.

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Err, that’s within 1 degree of my Leo Sun, so super bad raw power packed Sun, thank you very much universe. And current transit is on my natal Jupiter in Taurus. All very good.

Kat
Kat

Herodias graces my 4th-28 Aqua trine Moon-opp MC on my IC. No wonder I’m not Martha Stewart’s understudy!!!! LOL!!!! My son’s friends can’t believe our library is full of astro, tarot, magic, alchemy books, incense, tarot cards etc! LOL!!!!

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

11° Cap in my 11th house, square Pluto-Moon 13° Libra, 7th house. I like prime numbers.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

She’s sporting the Scorpio default expression in the painting above.

scorpbot
scorpbot

“Scorpio default expression”

Haha… very true!!!

S
S

Trust TeamScorp to sing to me. Django Django “Default” You thought you’d set the bar I’d never tried to work it out We just lit the fire And now you want to put it out You gave it all you got And what you got is not a lot Why don’t you hand it over? Time is up, you’ve had your shot Gather once again Disasters in the end It’s like a default You thought you’d make the grade All you made will start to fade We threw it in the fire It’s better that it not be made You… Read more »

calypso
calypso

lol! oh, yes 😀

Aprile
Aprile

I have her conjunct my Sun, Pallas, Athene – a back of bitches conjunct my sun and the sun is also my chart ruler.

S
S

Asteroid 546 Herodias @ 29 Leo which is my Desc placement and squares my Venus and Semi-squares Asc.

Current transit action:
Semi-squares my Kataka Sun, conjuncts my Venus, opposition to MC and Saturn.

So my new rainbow moonstone earrings was based on my Herodias placement. Thank you AstroRockStar Mystic!

S
S

I also collected my silver cage necklace that can hold crystals and gemstones.

monte
monte

Mine is 27 in Taurus conjunct Lilith square Chiron in Aqua and Venus in Leo. Got a Herodias return coming up!

Don’t know anything about asteroids. If you put them all in your chart you get an indecipherable crowd. Too hard. Who knows!?

davidl
davidl

You guys are such BAD girls. Every super bitch that ever lived is revered in this place.
I’m pretty sure that’s one of the reasons I like it here. 🙂
What with all the power and intrigue .. The murders… The drug fueled sexcapades … It’s exciting !

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You should come to my place sometime….Herodias conjunct my IC in Sag 😉

Pi
Pi

it’s on 12V. just say when.
did you have some kind of witchy grandmother or great grandmother in the family mix?

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

Not that I know of. Catholic family. They wouldn’t have discussed her.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Maybe she’s thinking of me? Old world German catholic earth mojo witch on the d low, grandma?

Cool if I bring an old vine zin to your shindig? And my cards? Can’t wait!

Aqua Ramette
Aqua Ramette

Conjunct my Moon in my already crowded Aries 1st house – together with Jupiter, Lillith, Chiron, Pallas Athene and a few other things I can’t remember right now.

I wouldn’t call myself a bad girl exactly…

Centaurus
Centaurus

Conjunct my Sun, Mercury and South Node in 7th Sagittarius. On my Asc and heading toward my North Node. Hmmm…

Pegasus
Pegasus

Go write a song about it.
Stevie Nick’s said to Tom Waite ‘write a song for me’.
He replied: ‘go write your song yourself’.
So she write a song called: That Made Me Stronger.
Kia Kaha to another Centaur 🙂

Centaurus
Centaurus

Whatever a Centaur salute looks like I am giving you one comrade 🙂

Maybe it’s a tail flick or a mane flick or a hoof pawing the ground as we get ready to charge.

Yes, there could be a good song in this. A challenge perhaps to get the mystical sentiment conveyed as I’d wish but you have me thinking.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Ha Herodias in Virgo 9th house.
‘If you buy me an around the world ticket, business class, open ended, i’ll give you head on a platter’.
She was the sister of Herod with that name as brother & sister had the masculine & feminine of a name when Latin was spoken.

Pegasus
Pegasus

And at this moment sitting over my node that south of the chart but called the north in Taurus, so sitting on my Taurean node in 5th, my house of fun, girlfriend fun, think bff’s for shopping & other enjoyments.

Mainstream TV news is showing the ginormous solar flares we have been having that were NOT going to impinge on satellites (Gravity much?), solar activity is wrorth noting always.

Centaurus
Centaurus

So on your south node too?

calypso
calypso

i just have to say Mystic, of all the spot on resonant and reassuring things I’ve read in the scopes over the last 2 years, what you did with the Toro scopes for Tuesday this week? From my perspective that is pure magic, no less. Bravo, and thank you! 😀

S
S

I have to second these thoughts. Totes bang on about April 6…guess two weeks in the psych wards was the best kinda Zap Zone/April prep Astro-Boot Camp. 😉

Pi
Pi

i have to say S, it;s a really surreal experience, this internet thing sometimes. we’re scattered all over the planet, and various people convene here in the comments, and someone (i.e. lovely you) slips into institutional care for a couple of weeks as the grip is perhaps loosened a little – yet thanks to some phone-smuggling your crisp tone and presence is still among us; your choice of words was a little more imaginative. and here you are again… S is back but to us you never left. Experiences of the world’s inhabitants mediated and rendered equal by a little… Read more »

S
S

I <3 Pi. Actually Sunday 6th April was my breaking point (as CS said caring for another patient can be full on). Long story short. I reached out to my folk (JFur and step Pa) for a as in single night of respite. As my sweet flatmate/former psych ward buddy was waking every two hours and I am also her pharm dispensary. So I'd had about 4-6 hours sleep since our joint release this past Thursday. The step Pa said "I am on my way", I waited bags packed in the down pouring rain only to call him and be… Read more »

calypso
calypso

so, where are you at now S? can you get help if you need it?

S
S

Actually I feel really good CS. Total exhausting but I am without fear for the first time since 1999.
Hey Mr DJ time to Prince’s 1999.

Finally getting amazing support and I feel safe (which helps slow down my fight or flight mechanisms).

calypso
calypso

good to hear that there’s support available xx

Sphinx
Sphinx

You integrate it all so well S, you are so cool, hope you are feeling as amazing as you sound from here!
Hugs, love & light all round you, xx.

S
S

Thank you sweetie and I’ll take those hugs and pass then on too. x

Pegasus
Pegasus

Not looking just guessing, methinks Scorp because of my Scorp Mother and node and Chiron.
What was that number again? 546 easy peasy, now to remember the password for Astrodienst 🙂

Pegasus
Pegasus

omg ANOTHER gift from The Myst. Soulmating. Rumi was rather cute wasn’t he, probably a Pisces 🙂

The politics around asking for John the Baptist’s head was so very intriguing.
Yes, i believe it was her daughter, because she was doing behind the veils deals with the Romans and knew Herod’s love of the lithe & lovely young.
The 7 Veils of Salome……
Aubrey Beardsley did some hot drawings of Salome in ink or was that Poirot?

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

Aubrey Beardsley

Invictus
Invictus

Bwahahahahahahhahaa
CONJUNCT MY VENUS IN LEO IN THE 8TH HOUSE

Pegasus
Pegasus

That made ME laugh too (or was that a smirk…lol).

Virgo? Virgo?????? Mine.

Sphinx
Sphinx

Sounds about right!

Invictus
Invictus

Lol… You guys. I know.right? It was my FIRST thought this morning. Before I found this site and had my first Skype session with Mystic I thought I was astrologically “cursed” to have a shitty life full of boring, pointless pain and unfulfilled longings and was almost certainly going to fall into obscurity – or rather stay there until an early and painful death having achieved precisely zilch. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing and I’d had some seriously dodgy astro “info” then I found this site and gradually began to wake up to the idea that I am… Read more »

pearlchampagne
pearlchampagne

I want to read up more about her now!

She’s in Gemini for me natally conjunct Mars and Jupiter & opposing my Sagg moon.

Wish I had a better idea of what that all meant..

Baristagem
Baristagem

I have Natal Herodias in Taurus at 22 degrees trine Saturn & opp Uranus 😯

Sphinx
Sphinx

She sounds like she would be all undercover & getting along with the system smoothly then BLAM! She has pulled the rug from underneath everyone. Esp. Johnny Baptiste. Herodias the Spy?

davidl
davidl

Yeah, she’s BAD *holds crutch and thrusts * wooo

Sphinx
Sphinx

😯
..ew, I feel all dirty now.

lol.

Gneiss
Gneiss

Conjunct Toro Moon – which incidentally opposes dance (Neptuner), trines death (Pluto).
(S)HeroDiana ?!
Dancing under the swell of a full moon ?
YES

calypso
calypso

your Moon/Neptune/Pluto placements sound like mine Gneiss, but my Herodias is opposite yours

Gneiss
Gneiss

Neptune Scorp 11; Pluto Virgo 8 – you ?

Treetop bit got me to look up Julia Butterfly Hill.

Sherodiana def fits here.
Julia treesat in Luna the giant redwood for 738 days, wrote a book about her experience.

Herodias conjunct N Node in Sagittarius

calypso
calypso

ah, mine are a bit further along: Neptune 27 Scorp, Pluto 26 Virgo, Moon 28 Toro and they all trine/sextile a 24 Cap Mars.

that’s so cool about JBH! and she has a grand air trine, huh.

Sphinx
Sphinx

What do you make of the NN conj. in 7thH placement? I have it too. One on one relationship with interdimensional plant sisters is good, but I can’t extrapolate..

Aquaria
Aquaria

Sandwhiched between BML and Vesta as part of my Aries cluster.

Trining Neptune conj. Magdalena, since we are talking “The amazing women of the Bible”

Hecate is conj. my NN, and inconj. that Herodias woman, but trining Circe.

Don’t burn me.

Sphinx
Sphinx

Love the sound of Herodias!
She is conjunct my NN in Saggitarius, 7th House.

Inciting good womenfolk to liberation sounds like a worthy way to spend a life. Even if you have to marry a King to do so.

Sphinx
Sphinx

Ishtar + Jupiter + Ceres + Juno in Pisces.
A Piscean stellium / fertility cult hanging out in my 9th!!

Veronica
Veronica

Why does this not surprise me? 🙂

Sphinx
Sphinx

😉

Centaurus
Centaurus

Juno, Pallas, Lilith and moon in my 9th… ‘cept it’s Aqua 🙂

Sphinx
Sphinx

That sounds amazing, like abundant & hot in futuristic ways..

Centaurus
Centaurus

Yes, and maybe a splash of no…sometimes too futuristic that I’m not connecting, being misunderstood etc until/if a catch up happens 🙂

Pi
Pi

that’s a totally awesome pisces stellium there, great sphinxy one 🙂

Sphinx
Sphinx

Ta, the ‘stellium’ (if aster’s can be stell’s) is next to my Pisces MC too, sittin’ pretty at top of my grand water trine to Scorp Moon/Cancer Merc.

Tho Ish trines Venus/Saturn near exact.

Sphinx
Sphinx

Am quite mutable really Pi? Of course Wry Wit & Nuance will forever be out of reach with a Scorp Moon & Leo Sun, but mustn’t get greedy now..

Centaurus
Centaurus

Very nice 🙂

Nr
Nr

Mine is in the 4th house, having a menage a trois with Hades and Zeus.
Yeehaw.

Sphinx
Sphinx

That would be some dance..

Nr
Nr

Seriously. Good lord can you imagine being sandwiched between so much godly power? Herodias must be a bada$$ bitch to be able to take on both of them.

catfish moon
catfish moon

Natal mine is at 5* Aries in my 8th house. It is opposite my pluto in Libra. It trines my Leo moon. HMMM.
My Natal Herodias is conjunct Torro Lover’s natal descendant. His is conjunct my natal venus.

yep.

sal29
sal29

I was JUST looking up my natal Hecate earlier today, so I’m game for this! Herodias is exactly on my descendant, 27 deg Pisces. It sextiles Chiron in late Taurus.

Other witchy aspects: Hecate at 8 deg Taurus, sextiling my Lilith at 8 deg Pisces… which in turn is pretty close to my Sun at 10 deg Pisces, too.

calypso
calypso

go down to the bottom of the extended options page and whack 546 in to the wide text box under “additional asteroids”

JessieAnne
JessieAnne

Awesome, thanks!

Elise
Elise

WOW

Exactly conj my Asc at 21 Libra, sextile Venus at 21 Sag, Uranus at 18 Sag, trine Jupiter in Aqua, quintile Neptune, semi-square Mercury……

Sphinx
Sphinx

What do you look like? Any Biblical Bad-Girl stereotyping possible? 😉

Elise
Elise

Not in the sexy buxom Taurus lady vibe unfortunately…

Long lean Sagittarius stellium type…

I am adding her to my aspects that relate to my ever increasing (and burgeoning? lately realized?) conflict with the patriarchy…. Asteroid lilith square Aries moon for sure…

toromojorising
toromojorising

Yikes. So if I was born with Sun, Moon and Mercury all in Taurus, at 23, 17 and 24 degrees respectively, does this mean that the time is ripe for me to start jazzing around on a dragon, wearing an astro-crown and wreaking havoc with menfolk?

Elise
Elise

This sounds like a really good idea to me!!!

Pegasus
Pegasus

YES! What a good idea.
Cameron Diaz says to start with ONE song to the end.
The every day add ONE song unit you have an hour coz a woman MUST sweat.
( I dunno why peoples say that, i prefer the infa red sauna for a sweat.)

calypso
calypso

I do! natally she is in Scorpio, trining my NN in Fish and Lilith in Kataka too, but only if we allow a wide orb – what would be kosher here?

Transiting just a few degrees off my AC and it suits me for her to oppose Saturn atm, as he busts some delusions 🙂

catfish moon
catfish moon

With asteroids typically a tight orb is used. I go with 2* orb, 3* to a personal planet or ascendant.

calypso
calypso

ta CM 🙂

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

Hmmm…in the 8th house with no aspect to anything else. Awww. mine was boring.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Hon, just what about the 8th house do you find boring?

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

just my 8th house. it is empty. it doesnt do anything. 546 makes no aspects.

but in general yeah, my 8th house gets no use.
nothing to share with anyone. no sex. no death happening lately. no inheritance.

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