Marlene Dietrich’s Chiron Return

Marlene Dietrich pensive black and white 1952

The caption to this image a poignant example of a Chiron Return moment.

“Marlene Dietrich in New York at the recording studios of Columbia Records, who were releasing most of her songs she had performed for the troops during World War II. She was 51 years old and starting a come-back in show business. It was a wet and cold November night and work could only begin at midnight, at the advise of Marlene’s astrologer.”

I wonder what “advise” that specifically was. It was November 1952. Marlene was a multiple conjunct Capricorn (Mercury, Sun, Chiron, Saturn, Mars)  with a Leo Moon. Midnight would have made it Leo Rising – maybe the astrologer wanted that Leo Rising for the comeback? It was her Chiron Return in Capricorn, a cold November night indeed.

Chiron as an astrological force does not get as much credit or notoriety as our friends Saturn, Uranus and Pluto. It is because Chiron shifts are often so inner-directed, like those of Neptune. All the development occurs on the inner planes, in the mind and psyche.

Chiron Return happens to everyone between the ages of 49 to 51 and then again – if you’re fortunate – at 99 to 101. So there you go, it is only every 50 years.

If you get to be half a century old, you will have amassed your fair share of defeats, regrets and sorrows amid the joys and triumphs. We all know this. And Chiron Return is when you get to decide what you’re going to make of them all. You will have the choice of – as Marianne Williamson says – becoming a victim or a phoenix.

Chiron Return is when you assess your emotional terrain gone by and plot a course through the future turf. Do you want to live in the past, navigating off directions from a possibly out-dated map?  Do you harden into your resentments? Or integrate your lessons as sagacity?

By the time you’ve got to Chiron Return Zone, it’s pretty much a guarantee that you’ve got a few. The “Wounded Healer” doesn’t necessarily mean that Chiron – a Centaur – limps around the place, clutching a medicine bottle and being empathetic because of his limp.

It’s more about full-throttle consciousness and willingness to grow applied to your most painful areas, where it really would be more desirable to just go along with the same old narrative you’ve always had: I Am X way because Y happened.  Or I was never the same again after X.

Saturn issues can be painful but they’re also often the sort of things you can talk about. And it is amazing how swiftly – as i always say – Saturn crap can be resolved with a firm, take-charge focus, work ethic and coherent plan – what you can measure you can manage.

Chiron is more like ‘what you are willing to feel will heal.’

Chiron Return is like druidic/priestess energy – sagacious and brave. But it’s not for wimps and who knows what was going through the mind of Ms Marlene Dietrich as she sat in her dressing room, that ‘wet and cold November night’?

 

Image: Eve Arnold – via Suicide Blonde

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Charley
Charley

Love her. Often think how much easier life would be if everyone just listened to their astrologer haha.

Andro
Andro

Yes! Or download their higher self from the cosmos.. Whose advice I find often matches our MM’s!

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

that is the most haunting and touching picture of marlene i ever saw, in those days a comeback in your 50s was no light thing. I want to know WHY midnight. Mystic why do you never tell me to do things at midnight?

Taurean Love Expert
Taurean Love Expert

I used to have a copy of ‘Marlene’s ABC’ – a kind of memoir meets advice manual. She was pretty amazing.

Andro
Andro

She is a great beauty – but *kicks guiltily* I have never watched any of her movies! I mean.. the cheekbones. Exquista!

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

This is awesome. I LOVE hearing about people with astrologers. I love having an astrologer. It’s like an ancient secret society. Wore my PIAB t-shirt out on the weekend, singing karaoke and SO many awesome people came up to me to talk astro!

Andro
Andro

I just got mine in the mail! I totally need to wear it out somewhere like that.

(May not wear to school pick-up tho..)

calypso
calypso

lol 🙂

Invictus
Invictus

Oh you SHOULD Andro. You SHOULD. Xxx

Invictus
Invictus

It would break all the faux social barriers
😀
But no. Great image tho. Made me laugh

Andro
Andro

Yes re ‘faux social barriers’ but I already have an undercut on half my head which marks me as ‘different’ – and it sorta helps cut wheat from chaff, in that people know from the outset I might have alternative views… Saves a conversation or two.

But the t-shirt with the word ‘bitch’ will just distress the mamma’s, not worth it.

Emg
Emg

Whhhaaatt? The are offended by bitch?? Really?? Oh goddesses help us all. I can’t deal with women who can’t or won’t let their kids grow up in the world. Hear what they hear and see what they see and allow them to draw a conclusion for themselves. My cappi was never protected from anything, so now the world is not so intimidating when she steps out into it. She swears where she sees fit and she’s as open and authentic as they get. In fact I think the world needs protection from her!! Bring on the bitches of the world.

Andro
Andro

Yeah but if I INTRODUCE the language then it is different. I become the chaotic element. If its written on a wall or something, ok. But to ID myself as that element that others feel the need to protect their kids from is selfish – as I drag my son into that with me. I don’t have to provoke their insecurities. I always liked that phrase that good manners is making others feel comfortable. I think I learned that here!

Emg
Emg

would never even cross my mind. Authenticity in all things. I must admit that you take me or leave me. I’ve lost a job before now for just speaking the truth, which was evidence based truth I might add and the clinic shot the messenger because the message upset the mum??!?!?! WTF
Was I supposed to lie??
I get where you are coming from and the protection but in the end what price?? They’ll not learn as quick as they might.

Andro
Andro

Are you sure that your authenticity is not simple rebellion? Sometimes authenticity can be an excuse for not giving a fuq, no? It’s a lazy quality I see in my own family in any case. The world will ensure kids learn – no need to stir the beehive. In terms of others truth is only truth to people when they are ready to hear it. It can be subjective to the ear.. Tricky territory. I explain to clients I don’t do cognitive therapy, if you ask for my perception you will get it. But then discernment is one of my… Read more »

Emg
Emg

No I am not the rebellious kind at all but I have this naivety or honesty that cannot hide behind protocols. I do agree with you on the timescale and place of the listener. There is stuff you could have said to me three years ago that I simply failed to get but today, wow someoneput my hearing aid in! We develop as and when we will. So true.

Invictus
Invictus

I am smiling to think of karaoke and that T shirt in the same room.
I’m proud to be a PIAB. You make me proud sista:-)

sassy201213
sassy201213

I’ve read the double volume of marlene Dietrich’s life written by her daughter Maria Riva, who was also her mothers assistant from a very young age. She often quotes “advice Marlene’s astrologer gave her” or times her mother would ‘go against’ her astrologers advice then proceed to blame him when it turned out pretty much as she was advised it would if she did so (omitting of course her own fault for not listening to said advice.) Absolutely amazing, fascinating woman who made her own rules, who climbed and climbed to the top, never sat down and worked her butt… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

>climbed and climbed to the top, never sat down and worked her butt off, then oneday just fell off the top and died having lived the last years of her life as a total recluse in horrid conditions of her own choosing<

So Capricorn

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

Sounds like complete adrenal gland burnout.

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

I ADORE her. She is such a role model and inspiration to me…the sanpaku eyes, the cap wit, the captain’s hats, the androgynous fashion, the politics. When I used to perform I would emulate her. Such a powerful picture with the pose, the heels off, the toilet paper scrunched up on the table. The time of night/morning. Maybe extra powerful because she was such an ice queen and you can see her melting, but she doesn’t want you to see her… I guess I understand the reasoning behind Lilth-moon conjunct. Regardless of outcome the high drama and glamour is coming… Read more »

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