Marilyn Monroe Was A Minimalist

Marilyn Monroe in pink negilee reading

Marilyn Monroe was a huge movie star, but she owned diddly-squat. She was not materialistic!
Marilyn’s estate was a bunch of poignant schlock. The auction raised more than $13 million, but not because of any intrinsic value in the numbered lots. There were no Renoirs or Picassos. Her knickknacks were pedestrian. Her cookware was greasy. Her spatulas were bent. Even her Golden Globe was broken.
The majority of her clothing showed surprising wear and tear. She had worn it all repeatedly and there just wasn’t that much of it.
Her jewelry? With the exception of her DiMaggio wedding ring it was a bunch of paste danglers and costume crap.
Shoes? Yes, there were several pairs of black suede Ferragamo stilettos with worn heels. But Marilyn—brace yourself for another shocker—was more into books than shoes. Her poignant desire to cultivate her mind and give herself an education resulted in an extensive library of first editions. Take that, Carrie Bradshaw!
This stunning lack of materialism made me love and respect her more. What do you need in life other than a good book, a few capri pants, and a cotton sundress or two?

Simon Doonan, writing in Slate recently.

We’ve discussed Marilyn M previously here her ultimate Gemini genius, Lilith in Leo Rising early adoption of weight lifting and massive Neptunian mojo + foibles – but i did not think of her as a minimalist, as such.  

But it fits! She had Saturn in the 4th House (home sector) and Moon in Aquarius, both often lovers of austerity, clean lines and space. Clutter freaks the fuq out of a lot of Aqua Rising/Aqua Sun/Aqua Moon people…myself included.

Another celebrity minimalist? Steve Jobs, the late C.E.O. of Apple:

Former Apple CEO John Sculley said, “I remember going into Steve’s house and he had almost no furniture in it. He just had a picture of Einstein, whom he admired greatly, and he had a Tiffany lamp and a chair and a bed. He just didn’t believe in having lots of things around but he was incredibly careful in what he selected. The same thing was true with Apple … I think that reflects everything that I have ever seen that Steve has touched.”

 

And…Jamie Lee Curtis:

My style is a distillation. I’ve etched out who I am through myriad haircut attempts, outfit attempts, beauty attempts, diet attempts. It’s been an evolution. I’ve let my hair go gray. I wear only black and white. Every year I buy three or four black dresses that I just keep in rotation. I own one pair of blue jeans. I’ve given away all my jewelry, because I don’t wear it. [It’s] Function over frivolity. Clean living. Clean lines.

 

I love these people – minimalists find so few role models in pop culture, you know?

Want to join the clutter phobes? See this motivational zoosh-up from Life Edited for a blast of inspiration the Ton celebrity minimalists + Unclutterer magazine. YES for real.

Maybe there is not a particular astro-signature for uncluttered people, minimalism and all but it’s more that it’s totally now?

Thoughts?

Image:  Philippe Halsman

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Fatalia67
Fatalia67
January 6, 2014 9:16 pm

I have double sun/moon aquarius mom and she is a collector. Not a hoarder as such. She always knows what brand is on whom and in etc. I do remeber that we had all the china and chrystal and new lamps allways on display, renovations of house every few years and so on. Honestly still when you opened any bedroom cupboard it was filled with unwashed clothes. One room was filled with a lot, I am not sure hwat it all was… she could also spend a salary of her hubby on a outfit to impress others at new years… Read more »

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
January 6, 2014 12:39 pm

Awesome. Never would have thought!
I am big on the uncluttering…Virgo.

But yeah, I could NEVER wear just one outfit (or pair of shoes) forever. Got to mix it up.

fallen angel
fallen angel
January 5, 2014 5:07 pm

Cancer sun, moon in Aqua and Virge Rising.. but with Venus in Leo & Jupe in Libra, I can’t hack the 4 black dresses and a single pair of jeans thing. I mean, not unless I took a vow or it was some kind of performance art. Once I had a 5th grade school teacher who’d joined Opus Dei and she literally had a spartan wardrobe. She was quite pretty, so one day I went up to complain saying I missed her outfits from before. Something-something about austerity but all I could think of was how boring the lessons got… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea
January 6, 2014 11:26 am
Reply to  fallen angel

I was just thinking of you today FA. Always enjoy your posts. Ha, I was a nun in another life and thought of that very thing when I had written (above) “sequestered”. Think my kids were shocked when I actually got fashionable for Thanksgiving and Xmas. Said “I still know how to do it”. Just that in P.S., we wear summer clothes nearly year round and I live in thongs (for the feet that is). Hugs about your Mum doll and Dragonqueen’s. A song came on the other day and knew Mom was sending a message. Couldn’t listen to it… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel
January 6, 2014 12:13 pm
Reply to  fallen angel

auuw fanks, sweetpea.. God nun in another life’s pretty heavy, but apparently I endured sever persecution of some sort in a prior one as well. Says another astrologer. But have my hands pretty full with the current life to worry too much about past ones.. sigh..

Palm Springs, haven’t been in such a long time but definitely recall the heat really not being very conducive to dressage. Never doubt that you still know how to do it, but a once in a while practice is refreshing no?

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen
January 5, 2014 4:06 pm

pure sentimentality, but MM in this pic looks exactly like my grandma. gemini, libra moon, most mutually understanding person in my life, who died 3 years and 4 days ago, and whom venus retro has been making me weep for. i’ve spent the last almost month 8 hrs a day in the hospital and it’s bringing it all back up, that stuff i thought i’d processed. ouch x a million.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen
January 5, 2014 4:09 pm

she wasn’t a minimalist, but very organized. i’d give her virgo or cap rising. aqua rising mom could fit the description about not giving a fuq about stuff, easily.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen
January 5, 2014 4:15 pm

last thought- aqua mom doesn’t declutter because that’s too much thought devoted to physical things, which could be better spent strategizing reforms or some other intellectual (with real world ramifications- cap NN) exercises. or playing scrabble or hearts, you know… (libra sun, neptune, saturn- strategy all the way, baby)

gemyogi
gemyogi
January 5, 2014 4:18 pm

Hi HDQ! nice to see you posting, and sorry you lost your grandma. She sounds lovely. XX

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen
January 5, 2014 4:28 pm
Reply to  gemyogi

awww, gemmyyogi! i <3 you, and thank you. she was lovely, and she was me. that whole "family souls skip a generation" thing was so true with us. she got me like no one else, especially her daughter, my mother. this venus retro has been intense, to say the least. it's interesting too- i, if i believe in anything, believe in reincarnation, and yet i feel her with me still, especially with my current situ, and i don't know if it's wishful thinking, or if it's real, or if my perception even really matters… everything i thought i knew is… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel
January 5, 2014 4:56 pm

honey I went thru the same thing during my Mum’s death anniversary on dec. 21st.. tears, snot, fetal position, the whole bin bag of grief. There’s never a time limit on it and I think that’s good, it shows how woven the people we love are in us. Hugs darling. x

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen
January 5, 2014 7:28 pm
Reply to  fallen angel

thanks, fa. hugs back! xxxx

natalie
natalie
January 5, 2014 12:23 pm

I wish I could be a minimalist!!! (Aqua sun/moon/mercury) but the sagg sun/scorp rising/pisces husband won’t allow it 😉

Scorpbot
Scorpbot
January 5, 2014 12:02 pm

I’ve never understood, and still don’t understand the Marilyn Monroe worship. Baffles me.

Andromeda
Andromeda
January 6, 2014 6:35 pm
Reply to  Scorpbot

“Hollywood is a place where they pay you 50,000 dollars for a kiss and 50 cents for your soul”

– Marilyn Monroe

I can’t help wanting to rescue her!

ms.vervain
ms.vervain
January 5, 2014 10:17 am

Aqua rising/4th house Saturn/Virgo Sun. I’m *always* decluttering, Karen Kingston is one of my big heroes. In fact; right before heading over to read the latest MM blog entry, I was warning the kids that I’d be ‘rearranging’ (i.e. getting rid of all the dishes, pots and pans etc) the kitchen if they don’t develop a better dish washing ethic *pronto*. Wouldn’t that be nice…… no cooking, no dish washing…………. just eating simple foods – would free up SO much time to participate in more interesting activities! So interesting about Marilyn, I wouldn’t have guessed her to have a minimalist… Read more »

j. c.
j. c.
January 5, 2014 10:14 am

as rudhyar stated, leo offers the potential gift of ‘simplicity’. marilyn’s individuality and her individual relation to all revealed that quality. the 4th house saturn was indicative of her not having a father and being orphaned, and somehow dominated w the ‘restricted’ and ‘limited’ vibe her last home had. that saturn was also in scorpio, which can be related to both her sexuality and her plutonic nature. (she would have been 87 yrs of age now.) i was 12 when she died, and i loved her.

sweetpea
sweetpea
January 5, 2014 8:27 am

Was funny after I eyed Gem daughter (Sagg Moon, Virgo rising) book case at Christmas. Saw “The Yoga of Jesus”…She said “would you like to borrow it?” I did and love it yet, what is funny is that mixed within her notations in the book and underlying certain passages are recipe notes here and there that she must have seen and jotted in the moment. She has Scorp Uranus (born 1981) conjunct Sagg Moon in 4th. She is quite minimalist but comfortable. Personally, I find this realm a burden but making (and transforming..an on going job ) the best of… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea
January 5, 2014 8:37 am
Reply to  sweetpea

And go to the movies this afternoon and have popcorn and a soda…(diet 😉 )

serenity
serenity
January 5, 2014 7:07 am

My parents, aunts and uncles lived through WWII as children, when things were taken from them and the Japanese took over their house. They are hoarders. And they continue to compulsively buy useless things and cook way too much food. It’s a double edge sword. Hoarding-so as not to waste; yet big spenders-wasting money on useless things that will get thrown away. They built a large addition to the house with a huge master bedroom for them. They continue to sleep in their original master bedroom with their “things” around them. I think hoarding serves a purpose: if someone breaks… Read more »

Veronica
Veronica
January 5, 2014 8:22 am
Reply to  serenity

Grey Gardens! Fascinating, wasn’t it? I have relatives whose waterfront house was taken over by the Japanese for its key position of the bay in WWII… it is very haunted now. My aunt told me one night recently she was brushing her teeth and looked out the window and saw a Japanese soldier smoking a cigarette. She blinked, put her head back inside, and when she looked out again, he was still there… I totally agree with you regarding the hurt/protection factor re hoarding. Whenever I’ve seen hoarding close to me it seems to involve covering -over loss. But also,… Read more »

UltraSag
UltraSag
January 5, 2014 5:48 am

I have stuff everywhere. Go big or go home… (if you can get through the door with all that stuff).

4th house is Taurus (no planets)… hoarding tendencies?!

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen
January 5, 2014 3:52 am

Wow – I am like Marilyn. My clothes are all worn out and yet I just keep buying books – well, mostly e-books these days, stuff I can’t find in the library. I’d rather spend money on knowledge than clothes any day. It’s becoming a problem – like, wearing the same pair of jeans so often, and my clothes stretchy and needing replacements. I hate clothes shopping and I’m not very good at it. I definitely wish I had more of a personal style – yet I continue to spend the money elsewhere. I wish I could be more minimalist… Read more »

Blue Moon
Blue Moon
January 5, 2014 3:06 am

Awesome, always adored her. More so now. Beautiful.

Shei Manson
Shei Manson
January 5, 2014 2:14 am

Aquarius rising has Taurus on the 4th house of home and likes refined and quality things and although the ideal is to have a simple home in preference I always find myself juggling my many interests in things I need to move but pretty much every move I do I get rid of a bag of clothes and try to simplify. Books a plenty though 🙂

Patti (Skyler Rosey)
Patti (Skyler Rosey)
January 5, 2014 2:13 am

I found it!!

‘I never read. I just look at pictures’ Andy Warhol

That’s me :p

Patti (Skyler Rosey)
Patti (Skyler Rosey)
January 5, 2014 2:09 am

I don’t read and hate books. I wish I did. I can read. I love magazines but I would rather be out in the yard or walking.

Andy Warhol has a quote about his not reading. He looks at pictures. I just cant find it right now.

Patti (Skyler Rosey)
Patti (Skyler Rosey)
January 5, 2014 2:03 am

I keep tings for many, many years then get tired of the clutter and give it all away. I save only a few old things. A couple of lamps then need rewiring in order to be useful, because my Mom gave them to me. An old blanket chest that I paid $35 for at a real junk shop back in ’77 and lastly a very OLD rocking chair a neighbor was putting out to trash. When I asked could I have it, she was delighted to give it to me. She said it was her fathers (she was well into… Read more »

Patti (Skyler Rosey)
Patti (Skyler Rosey)
January 5, 2014 2:04 am

oops *recaned.

pi
pi
January 5, 2014 12:21 am

A magazine for uncluttering…

multiair
multiair
January 5, 2014 12:03 am

Gemini Sun. Moon in Aquarius Rising. Total minimalist. Rarely buy clothes. Never buy knick knacks or jewelry. Hang onto furniture forever (do like to buy it new). But have a good DVD and book collection on shelves.

Double Happiness
Double Happiness
January 4, 2014 10:31 pm

I am multi Virgo / Libra stellium 1st house with Saturn in Toro 8th house – I am a lover of beauty and quality ( hate polyester) always loved mid century style with clean lines in wood. EVERYTHING must have soul (Nep and Moon conj Scorp) small culled selection of books, fiction and design mainly, some vinyl/CDs, interior design mags for reference mood boards etc. I only kept what is precious to me. I have only one shelf in my kitchen which is a like a small art instillation of beautiful kitchenalia – all useful – just added a bottle… Read more »

Double Happiness
Double Happiness
January 4, 2014 10:32 pm

Whoops! Squeeze it in hahaha

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
January 4, 2014 10:53 pm

Hm Saturn in Taurus with Moon Neptune conjunction too. I understand the concept of object as art. However i am currently living in a room with paintings, some collectibles, and it is not the same as the creative act of selecting and placing. You can change your arrangements but cannot change an expensive painting. I have deep objections to one of the paintings in particular, as I feel it has a BAD vibe for no easily explicable reason (to the owner – it in fact is a critique of the values and type of people the owner is, and rather… Read more »

Nightrose
Nightrose
January 4, 2014 10:59 pm
Reply to  milleunanotte

Are you renting a room out from an Aqua? Maybe thats why those pieces of art are with you because he/she cant stand having them around themselves?

And Aquas dont hate emotion… they just dont know how to deal with it in the way everybody else does/expects them to. They respond to emotions in non-emotional ways.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
January 5, 2014 12:12 am
Reply to  Nightrose

i think this art was displaced by more fashionable, larger pieces of art (if you are Australian, you will get that our collectible culture is VERY young and excitable, and more prone to trends). Oh i know this sounds typecasting: i generally am really drawn to Aquas, and have had good Aqua buddies. It is just this one in particular, and let me clarify the difficulty: family. I have Aquarius 4th house myself, and also 3rd house Aqua Venus, so it might explain my friend connections.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
January 4, 2014 10:55 pm

I also think i’ve moved from darker older antiques to the look of mid-century, but wondered if this was influenced by the increased design use of it over the last few years.

Double Happiness
Double Happiness
January 4, 2014 11:39 pm
Reply to  milleunanotte

I totally understand the need to rid your space of artwork that is visually and emotionally disturbing

Re the rise of mid century design I think the ideas behind these are still very relevant and good design will always be influential – I just wish I had been more able to collect some more pieces when it was less fashionable!

There is a fabulous exhibition on at qld art gallery atm “California Modern” 40’s-60’s…..heaven

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
January 5, 2014 12:14 am

Ah that would be something ! Yes, actually there are ratios in the design principles that are relevant to good design. That is true.

calypso
calypso
January 4, 2014 10:10 pm

that pink is glorious

Andro
Andro
January 4, 2014 10:12 pm
Reply to  calypso

She’s divine, especially in that pink!
Even if the world did not like Norma Jean, I would.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot
January 4, 2014 10:19 pm
Reply to  calypso

I don’t even like Pink but that is indeed a beautiful hue and the tones in the picture are just lovely

toromojorising
toromojorising
January 4, 2014 9:35 pm

I’m Taurus with Saturn in the 4th and don’t have many possessions. I do tend to wear my wardrobe items until they disintegrate. I think carefully before buying stuff and have no problems selling/throwing/donating/gifting items that I don’t use enough – even ones that I like. But like Marilyn, I love buying books. Shopping and cramming our lives with stuff has become a past time/relentless pursuit for many people, but I’ve never seen the point, I’m happiest when I’m not weighed down 🙂

Andro
Andro
January 4, 2014 9:46 pm
Reply to  toromojorising

Interesting! I do think of Taurus loving good quality over quantity. Maybe it is a Sun effect as I noted above I know 3 toro Asc hoarders? I have Sun in the 2nd & I love beautiful quality things.

toromojorising
toromojorising
January 4, 2014 10:04 pm
Reply to  Andro

Agreed – it’s definitely about quality, not quantity. Not sure about the hoarding, it’s never really been a viable option for me since I move and travel quite often, so i like being light and swift. Although I do get some strange, sick satisfaction from watching those Hoarders shows?

Andro
Andro
January 4, 2014 10:10 pm
Reply to  toromojorising

I heard sensitive people, psychics etc often hoard. Apparently it’s their way of ‘grounding’ or setting boundaries due to a fear of floating away! Neptunian sounding. You don’t sound afraid of floating off the planet tmr!

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
January 4, 2014 10:45 pm
Reply to  Andro

oh dear god there goes that talisman thing…it really is true.

but also true that things can be inhabited or played with and are unsafe if you are ‘followed’.

calypso
calypso
January 4, 2014 10:09 pm
Reply to  Andro

I’m a Toro Asc and Moon, and both – I love quality but I have to admit to having trouble letting go of stuff …. that might come in handy one day… I thought I learned that from my grandmother because she lived through the depression but maybe i learned it from her because she had a Toro Sun? Anyway she didn’t know quality, everything was synthetic or faddish with her.

Raché(Aqua/Tauri)
Raché(Aqua/Tauri)
January 5, 2014 7:21 am
Reply to  calypso

I’m similar…it’s hard for me to gauge what I will need or want going forward. Plus I try and buy less of things I LOVE and not tons of trendy crap so I am attached to my stuff. Can never throw out books, which is a problem.

I think for me the actual bad hoarding is mostly scraps of paper, gifts from other people I feel bad about giving/throwing away.

S
S
January 4, 2014 9:33 pm

As a teen I watched all her movies and had posters of her on my wall. I preferred her attitude to sexuality and her sense of self, as I couldn’t understand the popularity caused by the waif storm. Her mind was quick and her witty quips were her true beauty calling cards. Aqua rising and I like what I like and declutter is necessary to keep my Crab sun under control. Decided not to move in with an Aqua sun because she has too much crap. You feel like there isn’t any room for humans amongst all the stuff. She… Read more »

Andro
Andro
January 4, 2014 9:25 pm

Uranus & Pluto in my 4th.
Can’t admit to being clutter free.
But I have lived with just a suitcase for several years & given away all my belongings once.
Saturn is more consistent than the bridge burning Pluto/Uranus combo I guess.

Melissa Calderon
Melissa Calderon
January 4, 2014 9:20 pm

I have moon in Aquarius as well as a Venus Aquarius in the 4th. I really hate clutter and a house unclean. I try to live with less stuff and be minimal. I have even helped others get rid and organize. Life is not about stuff but living your best life. I am not exactly a fan of clean lines but I do appreciate a clutter and clean free minimal environment.

Nightrose
Nightrose
January 4, 2014 9:17 pm

I can speak for the Saturn in 4th + Moon in Aqua… love clean austerity. Always was a minimalist, always very picky about what I acquire, as I believe everything you have should thoughtfully reflect who you are/heading to be. Reading that bit on Marilyn made me admire her a bit more. I personally feel she is a little overhyped. Im not into sleb shizz. But give me a speech by j.k. rowling or bio on steve jobs – people without that glossy movie/sleb slant – and I go nuts.

Andro
Andro
January 4, 2014 9:21 pm
Reply to  Nightrose

Yes, that 4th house Saturn seems a very powerful factor.

(Mine is in the 1st – I have no sense of humour)

Nightrose
Nightrose
January 4, 2014 9:28 pm
Reply to  Andro

Is it that you have no sense of humor, or that its too well hidden/dry that others do not notice…? 🙂

I think I come off like Saturn in 1st sometimes. Saturn is square my AC.

Andro
Andro
January 4, 2014 9:41 pm
Reply to  Nightrose

He he, I don’t think of humour is all that bad really, 😉 my Venus is conjunct my Saturn, Mercury too, which I guess lightens it up? But my Scorp Moon is NOT always in harmony with my Gem Asc. I come off all party girl then get …intense. :-/

Nightrose
Nightrose
January 4, 2014 9:48 pm
Reply to  Andro

I bet you notice everything with the Scorp Moon.

Andro
Andro
January 4, 2014 9:56 pm
Reply to  Nightrose

The other day I told a Virgo friend to start dating women he actually respects, not girls he treats like pet. He was mortified. Then goes, “How do you know this stuff?”. I said, “Well, when when she talks your eyes go in the wrong direction, & you breathe in the odd spaces in the conversation”. He was freaked out. But I also suffer from foot in mouth, so my face reading isn’t always at the speed of my mouth.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot
January 4, 2014 10:26 pm
Reply to  Andro

Foot in mouth could be the bluntness of the Scorp moon. They notice stuff and it’s just so obvious to them they have to say it? LOL. Being Saturn ruled (and Saturn square Mercury) I’m way too serious (a bit like Grumpy Cat – LOVE that cat!!!) and I always tell people I don’t have a sense of humour. Of course I do but it’s dark and very dry and I don’t actually find a lot of things that funny. Really, REALLY hate it when people think they’re funny or try too hard. Some comedians though, have that face where… Read more »

Nightrose
Nightrose
January 4, 2014 10:39 pm
Reply to  Andro

I have Scorp Moon 2.0 – not because its “better”, but its just another version built off same model – Moon in 8th. I notice things too, but since its in Aqua its a very strange conflicted detachment but at the same time trainwreck type of engrossment into things. I cant just blurt out what I see/sense with my Moon though because usually the Aqua wants to keep it at arms length. Theres a saying I was told of long time ago – that you have to accrue a cabinet of friends from all walks of life with different ways… Read more »

Andromeda
Andromeda
January 4, 2014 10:53 pm
Reply to  Nightrose

I love Grumpycat, espesh as in reality she’s a sweet happy kitty. Adds to the irony.

My friends at least know I cannot lie. Hell, I can’t even sugar-coat…

calypso
calypso
January 4, 2014 11:00 pm
Reply to  Andromeda

hasn’t everyone quit sugar by now anyways? 😉

Andromeda
Andromeda
January 6, 2014 2:14 pm
Reply to  calypso

🙂

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
January 4, 2014 10:40 pm
Reply to  Andro

But Andromeda, I think you’re really funny! Witty.

calypso
calypso
January 4, 2014 10:42 pm
Reply to  milleunanotte

yes, clever-funny 🙂

Andromeda
Andromeda
January 4, 2014 10:51 pm
Reply to  calypso

🙂 Thank you! I just don’t have good delivery like Scorpbot admires – i am Jack’s complete lack of Capricorn timing, lol.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
January 4, 2014 10:56 pm
Reply to  Andromeda

That kind of makes it funnier.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot
January 5, 2014 11:49 am
Reply to  Andromeda

who cares bat timing!! Your poncho wearing pony STILL cracks me up!!! You are funny. LOL.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot
January 5, 2014 11:50 am
Reply to  Scorpbot

*about!

Andromeda
Andromeda
January 6, 2014 2:15 pm
Reply to  Scorpbot

You guys! Made my day, 😀

Zodiac6
Zodiac6
January 4, 2014 7:57 pm

Saturn in 4th and I’m in a constant state of declutter. I also like to refinish antique furniture on occasion but always give it away to a friend or someone bc it ends up feeling like too much going on in my space …
nice bit on Marilyn.

serenity
serenity
January 4, 2014 7:22 pm

I enjoyed reading this. I also read that Life Edited article link — less is more. Carving away what is not me. Good advice. Thanks, MM.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
January 4, 2014 10:38 pm
Reply to  serenity

Yes, i found this through Mystic before but had forgotten about it. Both links are perfect for me now: i have a little time now to prepare for a major move again next season. Moved cities earlier this year, but feel amazed at what still could go. But really it’s very emotional.

Saturn in Taurus 6th House. Mars in Capricorn 2nd House.

And Pisceans love a symbol. Talismans.

Serenity
Serenity
January 5, 2014 6:21 am
Reply to  milleunanotte

Big changes. Takes courage. Is there aqua or sag in your chart? Astro.com has that feature where you can check how your chart looks in the new city-astrolocation? Not sure. I’ve used it.

georgie
georgie
January 4, 2014 6:31 pm

Books … maybe thats why she and Arthur Miller were a married match

Fishgirl
Fishgirl
January 4, 2014 5:51 pm

Maybe moon in Virgo is clutter-phobic? I have that. Also Mars in Aquarius. Pisces sun is never very materialistic, although we like a few comforting objects.
If i can’t pack it all up in a few hours and move interstate on a whim i get quite anxious. The only thing i like having an expensive version of is a mattress.

But i chuck books too. Unless they are cherished (I have one tall bookshelf full of cherished books) and i’m going to re-read them i give them to libraries or op shops.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
January 4, 2014 7:09 pm
Reply to  Fishgirl

Oh i do feel bad for all my books, but they give me comfort. I’m rather nostalgic about those. Must work on it..? Do you find that Piscean eclecticism attracts items and fancies, that you then have to declutter (as i do), or that ‘stuff ‘n’ things’ just slide off your Minimalist Force Shield?

Andro
Andro
January 4, 2014 9:15 pm
Reply to  Fishgirl

Hm, I know 2 Virgo Moon hoarders, but both are Taurus Asc, soo… Perhaps there is a pattern there?

dia.astro
dia.astro
January 4, 2014 5:21 pm

My mom is aqua sun and borderline hoarder. My “dancing around strange mate-date-scenario” partner is aqua moon/rising and not a hoarder per se but clutter is certainly a key word. Is too much clutter some type of low aqua?

Andro
Andro
January 4, 2014 5:38 pm
Reply to  dia.astro

Aqua Sun sis, Moon in Gem is quite the hoarder. And of odd things of course, like, she moved & I had trouble helping her as the carpet was a crunchy mess of tiny plastic doll & game paraphernalia.

I tried to throw out a 2cm purple doll’s shoe, “oh no, not that! Whenever I move house I find it somewhere, the last thing. It’s lucky, I just like it, I always keep it”.
😯

She is…Taurus Rising.

Andro
Andro
January 4, 2014 9:13 pm
Reply to  Andro

Just remembered, she also has a fat air trine – Sun/Moon/Uranus!
PLUS Nn in Aqua…So über Uranian.

She does have Saturn in Taurus, 1st House? Anyways, I can’t think of Uranus as a non-hoarder knowing her.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte
January 4, 2014 7:06 pm
Reply to  dia.astro

Aqua Sun Aqua Moon person i know has two storeys of extra clutter, and keeps the third storey functional. Beautiful stuff in home but closets and benches full of random crap. And this was AFTER moving back in from whole house renovation. It seems easier to move walls, fixtures and remodel bathrooms, than to actually get rid of items you can pick up in one hand, for this Aqua. I am a supposedly ‘chaotic Piscean’, but funnily enough am reading this on a break from chucking and streamlining the bathroom before going on to the wardrobes and closets!!! How can… Read more »

serenity
serenity
January 4, 2014 7:21 pm
Reply to  milleunanotte

Interesting. My friend’s mom is an aqua sun, hoards those green styrofoam squares for flowers, filled in one room. Another aqua sun friend doesn’t clean and has a lot of stuff. Based on what I’ve seen the number one sign hoarder are cancers (July), then some saggies and virgos.

electric eel libran
electric eel libran
January 5, 2014 1:07 am
Reply to  dia.astro

you know i know 3 hoarders and 2 of them are aqua sun with aqua moon! the other is a gemini with lots of taurus.

Raché(Aqua/Tauri)
Raché(Aqua/Tauri)
January 5, 2014 7:18 am
Reply to  dia.astro

I am definitely one of the messiest/most chaotic people I know and before I started traveling a lot I was somewhat of a hoarder. Now not so much…but it’s still hard for me to determine if I will need something in the future so I often keep it around. I think if I was more financially secure I wouldn’t worry about these things as much but for now I do. In my experience Aquas can be pretty messy or have their own, um, unconventional (?) systems of value (what stays and what goes), functionality, and organization. The mad, messy scientist… Read more »

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