The Last Time Saturn Was At This Point…

Omni Magazine November 1984

The last time Saturn was at this degree of Scorpio, it was November 1984.  If you are old enough, there may be some socio-cultural psychic resonance, especially with the Retro-Venus to back the (productive) nostalgia.

Random Thoughts Re This: Now is the Saturn Return of November 1984, Ronald Reagan karma?

I love the vision of Nancy Reagan, a Cancerian, tottering around the white  house after midnight, a glass of Blue Devil Hoochie Juice with ice clinking around, gazing outside at the full moon rays on the green lawns, whispering on her huge eighties style cordless phone into the voicemail of her astrologer.

I also think Eighties Madonna, eyebrows and geometric “cheekbone enhancing” make-up were epic. And you? Is 1984 mysteriously haunting you at all? Saturn in Scorpio is weirder than it seems. Ghosts in the machines. Undead Iran-Contra affairs. Zombie banks. The soundtrack? Caribbean Queen, Prince, Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go and Like A Virgin. If you are Saturn Returning as of now, listening to some of this schizz could be Aural Therapy, like a rebirth, right?

Madonna Rolling Stone cover 1984

Ronald Reagan Time Magazine November 1984

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Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

1984: young Scorp Inc routinely took to the roller rink, lots of hip hop & colored lights. Boys. A Funions & soda-fueled zeitgeist of funky fresh freedom & possibilities. But I have to report from the Great Lakes presently: last I heard, there are over 12,000 cancellations (schools, biz, flights, etc) throughout this region & the Midwest due to Arctic temps & blowing snow. A large section of major interstate in a metro area has been closed because it’s all ice & it’s too cold for any topical apps to melt what’s packed onto the asphalt. Stuck trains, ice-covered lighthouses,… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

No joke: I just saw that the cold weather record of -20°f was set today, 1984.

At -15°f with a windchill of -35°f presently, close enough! So there ya go.

In other news, Cibo Matto recently released their new single MFN (for Mother Fuqin Nature) & it’s the shiz– all hail Rx Venus! Album drops Valentine’s Day 😉

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

wow! That’s freaky 😯

Have been watching it here on the news.

Stay warm! x

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Thanks, Scorpbot. Snug as bugs in rugs, we are. x

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Lovely to see the police handing out gloves to the homeless and letting them know the libraries are available for shelter and warmth 🙂

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

You know? :/

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

There’s 24/7 heat & food at the tank, so, there it is.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

cold weather record of 1984 makes sense!!

Scorp = water sign = turns to ice
when in Saturn = restriction and limitations

Pegasus
Pegasus

Have been looking up Polar Vortex. It’s actual air from the Antarctic broken away and pulled south.
Ye Gods, i shiver when below 66 FH.
Loved the snow in Kashmir,where it belongs in winter!
I would have leg warmers on legs arms and head, doubled up.
The photos of frozen light houses, waves frozen in mid crash. MInd boggles.
Hope you have fires. Fire warmth is like no other heating for glow and ambience.

Kat
Kat

Scorpation, I am near Motown. Schools cancelled- Gov imploring peeps to stay put- and he’s a boot-strap, pro-biz Republican. My work is open last two days- options to work from home or use accrued time. Which part-timers don’t have but I am ok with staying put with teens. I am seeing Saturn/Pluto- buried by excessive weather- delays due to same- also interruptions-Uranus- unpredictable delays, annoyances/hazards. Retro Venus in Cappy quickly recalculating values priorities for pragmatic -Saturn in Scorp survival. Saturn in Scorp- emergency preparedness. Shoveled six hours Sunday- snow blower broken. Got most of 1 foot of snow. Did buy… Read more »

calypso
calypso

Pluto was about to be upon my Sun, so the penny just dropped that my parents divorced when Pluto was on my Sun. Far out hey?

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

yeah, not in a hippy way either. Tres Pluto!

kayo
kayo

chernobyl was may 84..
fukushima almost a full saturn return later..

my mom was inhaling chernobyl when i was in the womb. makes sense.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

I’m too young for this post 🙁

However, jut checking out my chart with some added asteroids… Transiting Juno is getting damn close to my natal Juno. Excitement!

Also, I grew a pineapple. It took over three years! That’s some Saturn dedication. It’s the sweetest most delicious pineapple.

Pegasus
Pegasus

WOOHOO lucky YOU.

Pi
Pi

I LOVE pineapple plants. they’re just so outrageous! part of the Bromeliad family.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

Why did yours take so long? It only took me a year. I just hacked the top off a pineapple I was eating and plopped it into the ground.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

I have no idea. I did the exact same thing. I thought it would take two years, because most things I read said that….. but three! Hahaha.

PI
PI

oh ok ok I may as well join in… I had barely started primary school so when we went to watch ghostbusters – then showing “at cinemas all over australia” my older friend covered my eyes for the scariest parts 😀 bless her. Definitely remember footloose … listening more than watching it. Eurythmics, still one of my favourites… maybe this timing explains why I have such a renewed affection for early 80s pop? Family life I think started to go awry then and going back to school the following year I started to become a plump and awkward kid, teased… Read more »

anon flux
anon flux

i got the wolves too pi – was the making of me 😀

Pi
Pi

could have been worse? It’s also pretty easy to count my blessings so.. yes. Wolves aren’t so bad once you know the deal I guess. I think the tone of my statement probably reflects the tail-end of a monumental saturn transit through my 4th house immediately followed by saturn square saturn. anyhoo yes xxoo

Kat
Kat

1984-Pluto at 0 Scorpi was ON my Moon- Mars was in Libra- Neptune/Jupiter were in Saggo- wild crazy times. Now Prog Moon is 0 Scorpi- decision time-

I went from selling Birkies to ER clerking- loved it!! Worked crazy hours- all shifts- partied in between. Lived alone – had mama drama.

Loved the ER work- New shiny helicopter for med evac- lots of rides on THAT. Made sure the pilots loved me! We got to go in fuel runs. French, Aerospéciale cool ships. Landed on the hospital roof. We zoomed.

Everything old is…old!

Hah!

Kat

Crista
Crista

I remember the 80’s well. It was the most awkward time of my life but def a pivotal time as well. Pre-teens all the way. Madonna was my idol. I think I’ll spend the day tomorrow listening to “Lucky Star – Madonna station” on iHeart radio while I work. Maybe I’ll even search my closet for some fluorescent colors to wear just for the fun of it. I’ll even crunch some numbers to bring me back to the days when I was in the math club. I was such a dork, geek, nerd – you name it ! but I… Read more »

Vslr
Vslr

….7 years later I was born.

Loving the vibe!

Pegasus
Pegasus

And what was that book 1984? There was some anticipation around that
prediction.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

Orwell’s book Nineteen Eighty Four written in 1948.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Flashback! Had that copy of OMNI as a rabid Dune fan. It was also when i had a desire to be a computer programmer. There was an issue that showed Virtual Reality sex(uality), where one was in a bodysuit with wires for stimulation, which i thought brilliant & futuristic as HIV had raised it’s ugly head around that time and the word out ‘no exchange of any bodily fluids’. Saturn was telling us to examine our attitudes toward ‘it’ as in if could kill-so could it cure’. That’s what i thought anyways. Was till country hopping back then and didn’t… Read more »

david5379
david5379

its weird hearing about when you guys were my age, real weird, I still got stuff to figure out.

Pi
Pi

you have plenty of time! that’s what life is about 🙂

anon flux
anon flux

so do we D, so do we

Baristagem
Baristagem

In 1984 I was most likely dancing in front of the tv to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdtZ-z9KzWw

Andromeda
Andromeda

😀 Ha ha!

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

dancing to it now.
Salt sprinkled all over my flat from last night. So I’m stepping in it now.
Sunday morning and I passed out before ten pm in my clothes, which has happened almost every night this week.
Weird but hey. It might be time for some “I want to break free” vacuuming al la Freddie

Emg
Emg

Was 18 and just entered my college to study a way out course for three years. No one had a clue what I was up to but I knew it was the way forward! Right now I am just putting the finishing touches to the website for my new company which takes all my learning through all these years into one programme and hopefully will now allow me to move away from the title I worked so hard to get but is now way too mainstream and prescriptive. And my wings have dried and I want to fly!

Blue Moon
Blue Moon
Kim Whyte
Kim Whyte

I can recall 1984, Another big move across the country, over the Nullabour to Perth. A new life, new start. The first time I thought I had found true love and also the first time I had my heart broken, also the time I had discovered myself with more travelling. This year in 2014, I am not planning another major move and also major changes in my life. The love life is non existent. Let see what other big changes are in stall for us all. In all honesty, 1984 was an interesting year!

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

1984 was possibly one the worst years of my life. Music saved me. The music and the arts were my drug. Family life was difficult. My older brother (10 years older) and I were always estranged. He didn’t approve of my accidental birth was always cold, indifferent to me and trying to exclude me from our family. He’d fly into rages if I received any attention. I was raised to not discuss my achievements in his presence or he’d fly into a rage. I suspect my brother suffered from OCD and other mental illness and severe autism. But until recently… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

So sorry and just want to give you a hug.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

thanks
xoxo

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Ohh lots of love to you SR… this sounds unimaginably frightening and lonely.
I read this just after reading something on facebook from Joni Mitchell’s page -a link to an article about ‘music as medicine’. I’m glad it proved so for you xx

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

yes, it can literally save someone.
It’s my only drug.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Music is now, at last, a recognised Therapy.
Read where playing Mozart removes ‘demons’ from wherever you are. It DOES change a low vibe indeed.
And Scorp Rising remember what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. You KNOW that 🙂

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

I believe Mozart can clear bad vines. I adore him, his light energy. Even his darker work the Requiem is so powerful!

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

vibes not vines! lol!

Pegasus
Pegasus

Makes vines grow & fruit.
Magic.
Requiem next from LIbrary.

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

0_0 What you’ve been through is horrific.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

It sucked. But others have survived much worse. I gotta focus on the positive.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

truly

Methinky
Methinky

In November 1984 I was six. My favourite song then was Dead or Alive’s ‘You Spin Me Round (like a record)’ This is when they told us kids to pick a toy and say goodbye to our friends, we were leaving the country and we did – we went and lived in a bus as nomads in Europe for a long time and were very different people after that. Here’s something weird – it was definitely that November that I had chicken pox and I woke up a couple of days ago covered with mystery spots which I thought might… Read more »

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

Love that song!

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen

wasn’t born yet but I love reading through these nostalgic comments. xx

some memorable movies were made in 1984, Sixteen Candles, Footloose and Ghostbusters (lol!) and my favorite one, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (I’m completely obsessed with Hayao Miyazaki films).

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

I was 19, recently returned from the UK where I’d been at school for two years. Lost my English weight really quickly, was suddenly slim and apparently hot although I didn’t know it at the time. Had a huge, look-out-for-power-lines-in-the-vicinity spiral perm. Was ’84 the year of the Faberge stonewash stretch jean? Those years are all a bit of a blur I’m afraid. I was recovering from a breakup with my first love, a smart, talented but already drug addicted Welsh muso. I came home and fell into the flannel-shirted arms of a bong-smoking, huntn-shootn-fishn Sagg I’d been at school… Read more »

Ruth
Ruth

Ah yes, The Raffles. I used to venture SOR to catch The Church there. My other haunts were less classy establishments such as The Generator and The Nookenboro, also watching the Jets!! ANd I was pretty familiar with the back seat of a Monaro. Married Monaro man and now I often find myself singing that Meatloaf song Paradise by the dashboard lights -the praying for the end of time bit!!. 3 years ago he fessed up to an affair (with a fuqing 26y/o!!) and begged forgiveness- AND I TOOK HIM BACK?????, Ha, took the wrong turn at that crossroad!! So… Read more »

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

OMG the Generator and the Nookenburra!! I think the Nookie is still there but has now been tarted up – is it Botanica??! I find myself missing the seediness of the old places. I now live near the disgusting old pub I used to drink at in the mid-80s and it too has been cleaned up, wall to wall white linen tables and wine lists. The grimy old stage in the back corner has gone – no live bands any more. Such a shame. Soz to hear about Monaro man. Don’t feel bad for taking him back… you’ve invested a… Read more »

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

There is a doco about Pulp which looks at the 80s music scene in Sheffield UK: http://www.thebeatisthelaw.com/

davidl
davidl

This was from 1982. I would walk into Deans cafe on Kellet St and put this on the jukebox

http://youtu.be/6T7PFyN5MyA

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

Mate! Hunters & Collectors from a Young American – I’m impressed! The song all (nearly) sing when drunk is the classic “Throw your arms around me” wish I knew how to link it … All I can say is “you will make me call you name and I will shout it to the blue summer sky”

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

Ooops just realised it was the Aussie David 🙂 cause you know it!

Veronica
Veronica

Yes! I used to go to Dean’s cafe all the time. That was when the CRoss was actually safe enough to wander around without getting king hit.

Nightrose
Nightrose

I don’t remember what was going on last time Saturn was at this point for me – but it Definitely Was Not me getting super tribal energy healing to the nth degree, ghost busting, rut busting, or that which feels like growing pains. Oh wait, scratch the last one, I might have experienced that then. But experiencing that now is pretty friggin epic.

davidl
davidl

Forgot to mention how appropriate that OMNI cover is.
You are a genius Myst x

davidl
davidl

I was 25 and embarking on the most exciting business venture I could imagine. It all fell to pieces in October 87 stock market crash. The lessons of that time changed me forever. I’m currently embarking on another business adventure, Saturn in scorp, my 5th house, was a hell of a lot of fun the first time ! Like a lot ! When it moved on in to my 6th sag that fun turned a bit sour, the remnants left became the career I’m still in. I’m going to try and condense that time into the lesson of it. I… Read more »

aquasunbird
aquasunbird

Anyone out there travel through the nightclubs of the time?…Subterrean? Mud Club? Locomotion? Obsession? Hardware Club? Razor Club?…The Seaview Ballroom?…The Prince of Wales? Underground, Inflation?…I have very good memories of Inflation…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2dyzd39jdA

But most of my associates from then are either dead or have assumed new identities…

aquasunbird
aquasunbird
aquasunbird
aquasunbird

Liquid Sky and the Hunger…Fantastic film experiences…

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

Liquid Sky one of all time favorite movies!

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Yes! I understand that 1984 was the last year for what we call today “old school” rap & hip hop; post ’84 saw the birth of different genres (eg, the Miami bass sound via 2 Live Crew, & sampling as a staple) that have been characteristic of the music these past 30 years.

Love it, aquasunbird!

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

YES! Grandmaster Flash!!!!
New York, spoon and a fork 🙂

Double a Happiness
Double a Happiness

That’s the way you spell New York……is that a eurphermisum?

Pegasus
Pegasus

Danced a storm to Grandmaster Flash White Lines.
Yes, my close friends from then are dead or living in another country under another name.
Seriously thought about doing that myself last night..another name, another country, reinvention.

aquasunbird
aquasunbird

Trashy I know, but by chance, did you dance to this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4QRm786nLE

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Yes I remember the Hardware Club being pretty gothy, climbing the stairs, the gay boys hanging in the ladies toilet, disco heaven at Inflation and Subterrean (sp?) and the Anglers Club in Queensberry St. Met a boy who looked like Robert Smith there. I was dressed in op shop dresses and tights. With lots of eyeliner and purple lipstick. Good times!

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

So freaky, the Cure came on the radio as I was writing that!

aquasunbird
aquasunbird

I was at the Anglers Club too! You have truly survived…What a wonderfully seedy era…Deliriously potent, otherwise known as the Users Club…No irony there? There was another club with a brilliant DJ at the The Zero Club – did music for FDC parade at the old Palais St Kilda…Warwick championed 80s music! Almost forgot Chasers nightclub at the Chevron…Transformed into apartments….A CEO of one fashion menswear label I worked for made a killing from flogging the old Salt nightclub (which no one would go near after a homicide) and that is apartments too, along with my last Boss’s old HQ… Read more »

gemyogi
gemyogi

Lol the Chevron (or the ‘Ron’ as we called it) was always very sleasy and seemed to have more in your face wankers and bogans.

it was a great era for music and nightclubbing. Thankfully I stayed away from the drugs… a young lady from a country town. Drank a LOT of booze though… hangovers didn’t seem so bad aged 18-25! My friend and I would stay out until 4am trek home by public transport, have breakfast/shower and go to uni!

rae
rae

lol just bought tickets for my man for his birthday retro stuff we grew up to, got with him last year, but we lived near each other back then i was 17 turning 18, took forever to meet the love of my life

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

how long is forever? LOL. I’ll be 50 this year and still waiting…

rae
rae

just turned 47 last november

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

it’s okay… I worked it out. Maths has never been my core competency 🙂

rae
rae

hearin ya from one scorp to another hehehe

Lib
Lib

I was too young in 1984, but take your word for it re. music and themes.
This astro is completely new to me…

xo

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

I still listen to music from that era. Esp the Madonna songs. Just love them. They marked the beginning of my “walking away” from what anyone else thought of me and what passed for a need to conform. Sure, it was the most half assed and lazy pretence of “being in attendance at roll call” but I still felt I had to show up and roll my eyes, chew gum and spin my yo yo (I aced all those tricks) but after seeing Madonna sing “Like a Virgin” something fundamental shifted in my psyche. It was like being struck by… Read more »

aquasunbird
aquasunbird

Love this song too, this was the first record I bought of Madonna’s….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-idBKQqSrQ

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

LOVE LOVE LOVE this!

aquasunbird
aquasunbird

Those were the times…But relevant to many now!

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

OM…yes!
Totally love all those songs. Seeing Madonna on TV was an epiphany for me. Am wearing leg warmers again with EVERYTHING despite giggles and snipey remarks from friends. I totally don’t care. My vibe right now is just “Flashdance” and being seen as cool by anyone really isn’t an option when you’re channeling this. Like I’m going to lose sleep over what others think all of a sudden:-D

Centaurus
Centaurus

Oh yay!

If the groan didn’t translate in that simple cheery statement then you just didn’t read it backwards to glean it’s message.

Dark days back then.

Shield up in t+minus+zero.

Perimeter secure. Shield now set to ongoing infrared surveillance. Alarm will sound if perimeter breach occurs.

Out.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

i dressed up as 80s madonna for halloween, and have sorta integrated pieces of it unconsciously ever since. matte red lipstick, darker, bigger brows, eyeliner, fingerless gloves. no neon or geometry though- the horror. in 1984 i was 7. unaware of music yet- true blue was not to become my first album for another year. i do remember play-voting for reagan. double the horror! i don’t know if it was the conservative, catholic microcosm that was my neighborhood, or if he was such a force that it was a given. it seemed that way to me, at least. yuck! the… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Ah, yes, True Blue! I remember having the record. In 1984 I was 9. Not sure what else to recall from that. I do know I was never a fan of Regan and my parents voted for him.

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

I was 15 and going to underground nightclubs in Brisbane and seeing slots of bands – ska and soul are still my faves but LOVED Paul Weller and The Style Council (went to Sydney in bus for. 16 hrs plus to see the at the Horton Pav with The Alnighters – HAPPY DAYS!!) The Jam, The Clash, THE BEAT ( saw then earlier this year and the were fantastic!!!) and heaps of Jamacian ska classics – Lee Perry is a genius! And heaps of local bands Brisbane has a great live band scene to this day – thank you ZZZ… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Oh The JAM! Lights out and a kick in the balls.

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

Beat Surrender, Town called Malice GOLD!!!

rae
rae

i was at that concert style council !!

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

How good was it! I was little Mod chick in those days I still remember the coat I wore – pure 60’s opshop find

rae
rae

it was very cool i was a little art student

Pegasus
Pegasus

Pawed the ground on mention of Lee Perry (and the Upsetters).

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

yes Pegs, we are on the same page there! I have a fantastic box set of the late 60’s albums…..My sister saw him in a few years ago live, He is crazy but a fair dinkum genius!

fallen angel
fallen angel

14 was the age I was on the cusp of freedom, and I felt strangely powerful then. The world, whatever the “world” actually was, was full of possibilities. Time stretched on and to me, it wasn’t so much the rosy dream of success I found appealing, but the opportunity to be free to make mistakes. I’d have enough time to correct them right? So despite being hounded by both parents and siblings, I’d applied to only three universities except to my father’s chagrin, to very disparate courses. In one, I’d gone for business. In another, philosophy. And in the last… Read more »

Veronica
Veronica

Asian father FA? As if he was ever going to approve of you going into the arts…Business or medicine all the way 🙂

I have Chinese Australian friends who went Into the Arts field but they ended up gallery directors, curators and headhunted by prestigious New York philanthropic foundations. Apparently that was acceptable to the parents…

fallen angel
fallen angel

You got it. He was pushing for the computer sciences but I’d completely ignored it.. don’t think he ever saw me curating anything, as he was probably way too busy picturing me bunking off to a commune after doing some kind of guerrilla art (my temper wasn’t quite well-handled at the time).

I ended up with Marketing instead. This was pre-internet you understand, so it wasn’t quite as groovy without the social media.

Veronica
Veronica

The thing is, you are a really good writer! I’ve been reticent to comment here in the past because I never felt I could write as gracefully as you and some others on the blog who have a distinctive, elegant style. Am more visually oriented myself, and Aries merc. Sort of blunt…

Would you have done things differently career wise, looking back?

Pegasus
Pegasus

Angel’s writing creates Emotion & Feelings, warming my belly.
There is no water in my natal chart houses, translates as not very emotional, crave water constantly in any form.
Can’t cry. Wish i could sometimes as would love my tears licked by a lover.

Veronica
Veronica

Yes Pegs, she writes about feelings which I have but barely find the words for. A Cancerian gift of nuance which my Scorp moon appreciates.

Your written ‘voice’ in my mind sounds something like Marianne Faithfull’s, very warm and smoky, very present.

Pegasus
Pegasus

NUp, like MF’s songs but my voice is elecution- trained- kinda BBC, very recognisable on telephone dammit, with lapses into street girl Oz speak, sounds younger than it is,
luckily previous smoking did not effect the register.
But thanx for the warmth & present part.
Am so present forget what i did yesterday 🙂
or 5 minutes ago….

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Pegs have you seen the Pluto oil post?
You’ve made it on Mystic’s top 5 most frequent commenters. 😀

fallen angel
fallen angel

That’s such a lovely thing to say Veronica and Pegs.. thank you. @Veronica: Oh, the Ariean word spear? haha..you shouldn’t be reticent, there’s value in all different voices. Some may paint a picture, and others make a very straightforward point. I haven’t been able to comment as much lately due to work etc..but to confess, I used to hesitate as well. When I finally did, I realized I’d deeply underestimated the value of the exchange, it can feed and facilitate private and rather lonely ponderings, without the pressure of having a specifically personal situation discussed. Would I have done it… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Far out, fa: I’m reading from the bottom up again, post-posting, & noticing that you too used “freedom” & “possibilities” in your first paragraph.

Saturn in Scorp, freedom & possibilities. How committed are we to this lifetime? x

fallen angel
fallen angel

Jinx! Just saw that too.. yes, commit we do, even in sub-zero temperatures it seems.

How are you holding up in the polar vortex?

Much warm thoughts darling. xx

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Oh soundtrack? Would like to add: Echo and the Bunnymen, early Tears for Fears, Joy Division, the Style Council, the Specials, the Triffids, Violent Femmes, the Stray Cats, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds, Siouxsie Sioux, Eurhythmics, Smiths’ “How Soon Is Now”, and also “The Unforgettable Fire”, Frankie’s “Welcome to the Pleasuredome and Bronski Beat’s “Smalltown Boy”…pretty sure also still listening to INXS then, and Billy Idol plus maybe Ultravox. Napalm Death also featured on my playlist, and i was still listening to older punk. Think i’ve got the right year, with some of those memories. I could be going… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

of course Echo and the Bunnymen, and early Ultravox with John Foxx before Midge Ure 🙂

“Smalltown Boy” !! Such a great song…
Billy Idol is still HOT I reckon – a multi Saggo 😀 Have already done our astro. 😛

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

C’mon then… how’s the synastry? Any Mars Venus action going on? Are you crying more more more in the midnight hour? 🙂

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

yeah and with a Rebel Yell! 😉

Okaaaay..

• His Saggo Sun smack bang on my moon.
• His Mars in Scorp on my Sun 😀
• His moon in Gem conjuncts my NN.
• His NN in Sag on my South Node.
• His Venus in Sag on my South Node
• His Saturn in Scorp on my Merc
• His Merc in Sagg on my moon
• His Jupiter 0º Virgo smack bang on my 0º Mars Virgo – HOT!!!! 😛

His Neptune in Libra on my MC

Hows’ that!!! 😀

calypso
calypso

THAT is impressive 🙂

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Best astro I have with anyone!!
The Saggo from 1984 that dragged me back to his flat said he had partied with Billy Idol. I NEARLY / could have met him!!! I was too inexperienced back then though. LOL.

Actually my astro with the Libran artist / barista is pretty hot. There were sparks from the day we laid eyes on each other. But he’s married 🙁

calypso
calypso

Billy Idol in 1984….that would have been something. No wonder you had sex with the Sagg! lol 😉

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

LOL. Next best thing!! Saggos are fun but not actually the best in bed… unless they have planets in Scorp 😉

rae
rae

id a gree

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

think we might be accruing points for most frequent commenters in 2014. 😆

calypso
calypso

it’s a long game 😉

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

just kidding. Once I start art school I’ll barely have time to comment

sweetpea
sweetpea

Aw, good luck with the school Bot.

Did I ever mention that my Gem/Sagg Moon/Virgor rising is a wonderful artist?

With Neptune in 5th, it was inevitable really that one child at least would be artisti and she is also spiritually sensitive.
But
know what you mean time wise. I am waiting on a computer repair.

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

I think its cool his band and he coined a phrase that defines a generation – kids that’s Generation X to you

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Fuq! He’s your destiny 🙂

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

HOT…but where’s his Gary?

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

Yes forgot – the specials!! “I’m a fully fledged member of the nightclub ” yay!!!!

If
If

May I add “The Smiths” and The The’s “Soul Mining” (particularly the title track and ‘I’ve been waiting for tomorrow all my life?”
Were on heavy rotation round my place…along with Joy Division, New Order, Psychedlic Furs et al.
Then, as now, Saturn had just crossed into my first house. Except that back then, Uranus was on bang on my Sagg Sun, and Neptune was in last degree of Sagittarius, and Pluto was just starting its treck across all the planets and asteroids in my Scorp 12th.
The The’s lyrics summed it all up for me!!

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

The The – Soul Mining – for real

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

oh God TOTALLY!
Imagine being alternate music freeky goth kid in SA and that music was just the shitz that got me through those weird times. Didn’t exactly score me points for popularity but hey, who needs popularity when you have the controversial crown already.
Hey homies, happy Sunday!
I gotta make a play list ..vacum & write!

FelineFoe
FelineFoe

Little known fact: “wake me up before you go-go” is actually a Scorp-styled passive-aggressive ode to Saturn from Jupiter in Sagittarius.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

hahahhahahahahahhhahahahhahahahaha

Andromeda
Andromeda

I lived in a little time warp in the ‘burbs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KByxC7B9WH0

Am afraid the 70’s was my memory of the early 80’s!

Big sis loved Bowie so that is the soundtrack to my childhood.

Andromeda
Andromeda

And no! I hardly ever get haunted by the past.
Especially 1984.
But then I also have some trouble preparing for the future… Come to think of it, why did that guy write “The Power of Now”? 🙂

serenity
serenity

I’m seeing Missing Person this Friday night at a small club down the street. Right on, MM. Then Berlin in 2 weeks.

kayo
kayo

hell yeah

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

omfg i used to totally live for OMNI magazine in its heyday…nerdy sci kid…and same time i was researching astro. Thanks for the flashback, Mystic. I adore your images so much.

kayo
kayo

Ha ha… I juuuust had a convo… with my therapist… about the validity of 80s music Fall 84 baby I was always a fan of Flashback Lunch on KROQ in LA back in the day. They used to have this thing over Memorial Day Weekend called the Flashback 500. I found one of the playlists online and basically pieced together a massive 80s mixtape from it. Been listening to EBN-OZN and Scritti Politti a lot while cooking this past week :/ I don’t think I can listen to Bauhaus, JD, or the Smiths anymore. That stuff brings back too many… Read more »

Charles
Charles

Useful link: Saturn return calculator.

http://www.astrocal.co.uk/saturn-return.php

Hey I forgot about this site. Check their front page, scroll way down to the bottom for some interesting Lunar astronomy links, moon sign calculator, and other fun astrogeeky stuff. Oh I love reading about Metonic Cycles and that sort of crap.

ninespiritualfires
ninespiritualfires

This should be an interesting time for me, I was born in Nov 1984 so i might just find myself right at home with this! 🙂

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Welcome back, nine: get ready to be born again. x

ninespiritualfires
ninespiritualfires

Thank you 🙂

At least this time it’s less physically demanding upon my mother!! 😉

Pamm
Pamm

Preggers with my first child, born 2/11/85. She has scorp ascendant and scorp moon. She’s a difficult and unbelievably jealous/envious woman. We are very much estranged because I’d rather not talk to her vs deal with her scorpionic mind game misery. I guess she’s going thru her first Saturn return lol. Best of luck kiddo. Maybe she will have a major epiphany?

anon flux
anon flux

funny. for different reasons obviously but that’s exactly how i feel about one of my parents – it’s liberating when you get to the point where they’re just some people you know and can view relatively objectively. Love them but no need to get involved with the re-runs.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

If her sun is square her moon, that’s supposed to be a hard thing to take. Your emotions and what you’re thinking and believing in are always at odds with one another. 🙁 Supposed to be harder for men though.

david5379
david5379

I have that, its exact and between pisces and gemini.
Its like a dilemma between dilemmas.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Yesterday (Jan 6) *was* the Epiphany. Just saying. x

anon flux
anon flux

this was the year i lost my virginity – go venus retro, I might google that boy right now and see what became of the man.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Was it a party night?.. was it the end of school?

“Come said the boy… let’s go down to the sand
Let’s do what we wanna do, let me be a man for you…”

😛

anon flux
anon flux

eeeeow! that’s in some way tainted an already questionable (in terms of quality control) adolescent act.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

LOL. Well, most adolescent acts are questionable. In hindsight. 🙂

calypso
calypso

I’m pretty sure I lost my virginity in 1984 too…indeed it was down on the sand but thankfully the young lad didn’t say anything in the vicinity of “let me be a man for you” 😉

anon flux
anon flux

hehehe mine said can we do that again? I said NO!

calypso
calypso

I think mine said “are you ok?” which was pretty apt! but I’m having trouble taking up your suggestion of googling the man because I can’t quite recall the poor boy’s name!

anon flux
anon flux

apart from those who’ve become public figures, no one I knew prior to the internet ever has an online presence. It’s strangely comforting to me. They’re either all dead or we share some generational need for privacy – neptune in scorpio?

calypso
calypso

ah, my placement too…explains a lot!

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

i think it happened “properly” for me around the end of ’84 too.

He was a Saggo.

anon flux
anon flux

Properly? CUTE for some reason that strikes me as really innocent and cute. You’ve made me smile robot.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

well, prior to that, when I was 16 and I just wanted to get the whole virginity thing out of the way, it was just awkward fumblings with stupid boys.
Met the Saggo in a night club – I had a very 80’s spiral perm which looked like more like an afro with my porous dry hair, he picked me up and took me back to his place. Good and proper!! 😀 Well it wasn’t THAT good…

S
S

The only time to mess with a boy is when your older than the boy.

calypso
calypso

did he literally pick you up Scorpbot?

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

haha… No. But he could have. I’m tiny!!!!

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

Hahaha! Scorpbot ur hilarious !

catfish moon
catfish moon

Ah! 1984! I was 9 and in 4th grade….LOL. But yes I remember it. Prank calls, roller skating, madonna and Prince.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

oh yes roller skating!

and yes the days before *69 and caller id!

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Aww you guys too? 😀 And there were leg warmers to keep my calf muscles supple, & a neon-colored pick in my back pocket to keep my coif just so. xx

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

And why are there so many horrid Cancerians in this world? Nancy Reagan – bleh. Imelda Marcos – double bleh. George Bush – simply no words foul enough to describe him adquately. That horrid goobly eyed Wall Street guy – vile.

Surely there are some decent ones floating around – can we focus on them instead of these low rent pretenders?

toromojorising
toromojorising

Nelson Mandela?

Veronica
Veronica

Can’t think of any famous ones off the top of my head, but at least 3 of my most interesting, longest buddies are Cancerian gals

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Tom Cruise? LOL. Just kid din’

What about Alan Joyce – the Qantas CEO? Why is that little weasel still in charge?? The airline has been a disaster since he took over.

Richard Branson? 🙂

calypso
calypso

lol, TC 🙂 is it true that Brad Pitt came out and admitted he can’t stand him? or is it just a scragazine fantasy? 🙂

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Hehe. No idea but their Suns (Cancer vs Saggo) square each other.

calypso
calypso

is it? cancer square sagg? but anyway I just had to go and check their charts didn’t I? and TC’s Sun is smack bang on BP’s North node! lol.

Also, how in the ZZ is Brad Pitt? Uranus on his Jupe, Pluto on his Mars and his Venus Moon conjunction (yes, really) on my Mars! well now I’m delirious but TC’s asc is on my Sun and my asc is on his Mars. i don’t even like him.

I’m laid up with a small injury – that’s my excuse!

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

no need for excuses. We’re astro fiends! I’m always looking someone up out of curiosity. It could be a word, a phrase, or a look that piques my interred and *bang* straight to google! When I saw the J. Edgar movie I was curious to know if Hoover had any planets in Scorp – movie being all about FBI et al. I was ITCHING to leave the cinema to google his D.O.B. Sure enough – Saturn In Scorp. Gives me such a thrill to pick someone’s astro. The best one was trying to work out the sign of a hot… Read more »

calypso
calypso

oh well done 🙂 and I see you have embraced colour tonight yourself!

it’a happening to me as well, spend all my energy on particular people I meet guessing their astro. I have a highly excited student who can not abide people taking different positions to those she is voluminously trying to hit them over the head with, I mean convince them of. I’m thinking Gem/Toro?

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Aqua? They are so fixed. Gem would be more open.

calypso
calypso

I was going to say Aqua, but she’s so invested!

rae
rae

not sure i agree with that

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

There are good Crabs too! Peter Murphy, Marc Almond, Screamin’ Jay Hawkins, Blondie, Orville Redenbacher the popcorn guy, Montel Williams and Geraldo Rivera…. lots of worthy crabs!

catfish moon
catfish moon

LOL….Orville!

Hey, I’m a crab! Thankfully not famous!

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

What can I say? I love popcorn! He’d probably turn in his grave if he could see the microwave shite flavoured with cottonseed oil instead of butter. 🙁

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

That Malala girl. Sorry i’ve suddenly forgotten her name: she was shot in the head by the Taliban for her support of girls’ education.

Yul Brynner (DON’T – i love him), Debbie Harry, George Orwell, Hermann Hesse and Kafka.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Oh and 50 Cent

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

and M.I.A.!!

calypso
calypso

Yul Brynner in The Magnificent Seven – yes!

jicky
jicky

Beau Brummell – my latest interest.

fallen angel
fallen angel

The Dalai Lama, hello?

Buckminster Fuller, check.
Henry David Thoreau, check.
Helen Keller, check.
Everyone Mille mentioned.

I know, I know. But maybe all that concentrated goodness is enough to wipe out the bad ones?

curiouser and curiouser crab
curiouser and curiouser crab

Dalai Lama

curiouser and curiouser crab
curiouser and curiouser crab

Oops, this was meant for prowln, didn’t see your comment til now fallen. Marc chagall too, freda kahlo

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

1984? I’m pretty sure that was the era of smoking bongs in one’s bedroom whilst listening to the most miserable goth music I could lay my hands on. Oh and occasionally Nina Hagen if I was in a party mood. It was when I stopped being a “good A student” and decided that everything could go fuq itself.

S
S

I used to sneak into my older sister’s bedroom and look at the Like A Virgin cassette cover. It was speaking to me.

toromojorising
toromojorising

Ahhhhhhhhh and this would explain why I recently went to an 80’s themed NYE party. For some reason, it felt okay ringing in the new year dancing and drinking with people dressed as Ghostbusters, Rambo, Jackie Collins and the stars of the Golden Girls and Miami Vice – we were just channeling the astro.

Saggibee
Saggibee

I’m a December 1984 baby, and Saturn is just a little over 1 degree away from its natal placement. The initial hit of my first Saturn return is due in about three weeks but I’ve been feeling the planet’s influence increasingly since it went into Scorpio. It’s been particularly strong since November, and I am really valuing the rigidity and process that is entering my life.

Veronica
Veronica

1984, my first Saturn return. I remember parts of that year vividly as my father passed very suddenly of a heart attack. I was actually at the cinema watching Gone with the Wind (ironic) with my friend, when they put my name on the screen to call me to go to the desk urgently (friends parents came to get us and take me to hospital). Was sometime later kicked out of home ( I was a bit unruly, stepma couldn’t cope), met a significant boyfriend with lovely family who are still dear to this day. We used to go every… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Arthur’s!!!! and Stranded nightclub!! Yes! I was still living at home and use to sneak out at night to go there… dressed up like Haysi Fantayzee. 🙂

Brings back memories. And Patches nightclub on Oxford Street for the disco 😀

anon flux
anon flux

I wrote an essay at uni a few years ago which had Haysi Fantayzee at its core! That point in time was the turning of a few tides culturally.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Yes! 😀 was Lena Lovich mentioned? She was pretty cool too.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

and Nina Hagen! Grace Jones.
Klaus Naomi

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

yes! Grace Jones was the first concert I went to. That was an eye opener 😯 I was 17!

Magazine, Theatre of Hate, Joy Division, New Order, The Stranglers, Tangerine Dream, Tuxedo Moon,

Some great bands from that time.

anon flux
anon flux

sigh. the stranglers. my dad and I used to listen to them together. Bless the boomers for breeding so young that gen x could share some of the music with them.

Veronica
Veronica

Golden Brown…

anon flux
anon flux

get a grip on yourself – dad always had really fast cars and this was the soundtrack of the freeway for a while.

Ver
Ver

Groovy dad…

anon flux
anon flux

cautionary tale

Veronica
Veronica

I was probably there at the same time

Veronica
Veronica

(At Grace Jones)

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

At Capitol Theatre!! 😀

rae
rae

oh the memories

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

yes, all great!
I went to Nina Hagen/X when I was 13! One of the best concerts ever.

anon flux
anon flux

It was anglo and US focused so no. It was about identity construction and the the divergence from mainstream commodity culture (the supermodel power suit phase) with reference to the music industry. Which then went on to appropriate and make mainstream niche fashions. ever decreasing circles. ourubourous. always.

Veronica
Veronica

Neptune in Capricorn era =
Supermodels in power suits

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Ah that would explain why I enjoyed wearing a tie to work. Neptune on my Asc

anon flux
anon flux

thank you! Was trying to work out what could’ve been ruling to bring about some of that fashion stuff. The illusion of power via shoulder pads as a point of entry to the corporate plutocracy for women.

Veronica
Veronica

Yes, the shoulder pads eg Claude Montana were outrageously huge, neptunianesque -ly symbolic

anon flux
anon flux

Donna Karen did the soft knits to veil the form. visual neutering

Pegasus
Pegasus

DK to me was best designer EVER. Non-restrictive.
Her perfume six tho’.

Pegasus
Pegasus

S’U’X
not
s i x.

anon flux
anon flux

nz accent pegs??? 😀

Veronica
Veronica

There is an fb page called I went to Stranded in the 80’s

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Yes I joined it!! But it’s been inactive for a while

anon flux
anon flux

LOL they all got stranded?

Veronica
Veronica

Ps I used to sneak out of home too…:)

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

me too 🙂

Pegasus
Pegasus

O Yes, Arthurs. Been there, done THAT! Claudia was a friend of my BF’s daughter who was ‘Vivian’ in Home & Away,now directs theatre.
You have just reminded me i need more fun in my life.
*sigh* the good days before i grew up.
Time keeps on slipping slipping slipping into the future…Moody Blues.

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