Katie Five Planet Scorpio

Katy Perry Liebovitz

She looks like she wants to throttle one of those poor chooks. I mean, seriously, this is not how  you pose a multiple Scorpio. We already discussed her astro back here and Scorpiotronic was WAY more how she should be styled. Nothing about Five Planets in Scorpio says sulking in barn yard in couch fabric like Scarlett O’Hara’s mogadon harpie of a second cousin.

But she is actually only up there to illustrate this quote from her notorious G.Q. Interview:

“I see everything through a spiritual lens,” she says. “I believe in a lot of astrology. I believe in aliens. I look up into the stars and I imagine: How self-important are we to think that we are the only life-form? I mean, if my relationship with Obama gets any better, I’m going to ask him that question. It just hasn’t been appropriate yet. I might have won Wisconsin for him,” she says. “Actually, I didn’t do too much, but he called on me a couple of times. Which was very nice.”

 

I believe in astrology and aliens too – i get it. But it was this quote that has been earning her some, you know, attention.  “Geishas are basically, like, the masters of loving unconditionally.”  I never think that every single strong female figure in pop-culture has to be a raving symbol of feminist empowerment but this does seem a little disingenuous?  

I read Memoirs Of A Geisha once and it seemed mega conditional.  Like Conditions Central.

Or ARE geishas all about unconditional love?  There could be a deeper, Five Planets in Scorpio dimension here that i am missing because i don’t have that much Scorp.  Multi-Scorps, speak up. And others, obviously.

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Halfamoon
Halfamoon

I have Scorpio in three planets—Sun, Mercury and Uranus. Yesterday was the end of a relationship that started back in October. The guy was a Pisces. He suggested a slow down approach, with certain criteria attached. I said from the beginning it was all or nothing. So it turns out the nothing ruled. At 1:30pm I was in tears and my heart was hurting, by 2:00pm I was in a meeting discussing the future direction of a project and providing advice. By 8:00pm I had returned all gifts that were given to me by the Pisces, left on his doorstep… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea

Do yourself a favor peeps and look at yourselves for God sakes…

sweetpea
sweetpea

😯

😆

sweetpea
sweetpea

My feeling is that the Geisha in her is her Libra Rising…Venus ruled.

Beauty, wanting to please with that beauty. She must come thru with that with the Mayer eh? 😆 Jezus can’t think of his first name right now…

But it’s not something to be humored really. It’s a part of her nature to want to please with beauty. How can that ultimately be knocked?

And then with all that Scorpio, if you cross her she’s gonna lower the boom and God be with you lol

sweetpea
sweetpea

Hey bot, read what you had said about your Cap rising and Lilith in the first house and “hissing snake”..

Was thinking you take no prisoners…lol Can’t say I blame you..x

sweetpea
sweetpea

Prisoners would be such a bother… 😉

sweetpea
sweetpea

I mean I ain’t got time for that shit!! lol

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

TIME being the operative Cap word 😉

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

True, I don’t but that’s my Cap rising. Lilith is actually in my 12th. That reading was YEARS ago. The snakes have turned into flowers now 🙂 Or maybe she was projecting her own Lilith. She was a nasty one. Kept shouting at me and wondering why I wasn’t the CEO of the agency I was working for at the time. “What have you been doing with yourself” Sheesh, I get enough of that from my parents and my own inner voice, I don’t need the pressure from a stranger!! Especially one that I’ve paid to see. She was an… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea

There is tons of projection here on this blog and why I really don’t care to spend too much more time …

I gave my gift and so I’m done now.

Thats all I came for really. I realize it’s easy to not be real on an anon blog…

But I give thanks for Mystic. This has allowed me to process so much thru the years.

She gets me and that is heart and soul felt with little need for words.

My replacement screen for my computer came in today and so I’ll be getting on with my writing.

Blessings…

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

i know how you feel Sweetpea 🙁

You were real to me. xx

sweetpea
sweetpea

I’m real to me too and why I’m not buying it..

but thjos os sprta fim sjot je\/

haha, \i’m on tyher ney bppl at wprl

Ah Scorpty you know \i lpove you

😆

x

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

😆 Speaking in tongue now? 😀
Thanks for my first chuckle this morning.
Hope you pop in some time in the future. Although once I start art school in March I won’t have much time for astro blog.

x

sweetpea
sweetpea

I am on yth4 nry bppl ay wptl nd a fgrr

netbook at work sunday night A few margs down..fave mex just a few doors down..

ah good luck darlin…L

Alicia
Alicia

As a multi-Scorp myself, I think Ms Perry hides her true thoughts, feelings and ideas well behind her public persona. Really, if you read all of her interviews she is often contradicting itself so I get the feeling she is like a cat playing with all the little media mice. Now that is a multi-Scorp!

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I agree, all that Scorp hiding behind a Libran Asc would back that up your theory too.

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX-xToQI34I I have respect for Ms Perry. She sing songs that empower kids. How much more evolved can you get ? It’s a credit to her spirit and soul. I had my beautiful Aquarians little Libran with Aspergers in the car for a drive, with my Aquanaut (they adore each other) i played firework (its on the madagascar soundtrack if you’re after it!!) and the little Libran sung it with full lungs and pitch perfect. It was pure. I drove with tears streaming for the whole song. When we caught up with her Mum and Mums man, I got out… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I love your dress alteration ideas!

Veronica
Veronica

Cosmic, funny that you mention it, because I witnessed another young yr 7 Auty girl at school where I work get up to sing ‘Roar’ pitch perfect, and receive an enormous amount of positive feedback.

She is an otherwise very difficult girl at times (to deal with in class) a refuser and no one can mention body parts as she would run out of the room. But singing is a great avenue for her to express and bond with the other kids and She particularly loves Katy Perry

Pi
Pi

that’s a gorgeous story cosmic 🙂 xxx glad that these kids can be in the flow thanks to music. where would we be without it??

Andro
Andro

Aww, I might just have to get the Madagascar soundtrack!
Lovely, special.

My little Cap just had his 4th Birthday & his 2 cousins, bro & a pal were swinging on a huge hammock together at a park.
As they swung, they snuggled Cappy & they sang ‘happy birthday’…& Cappy joined in!

We were all in tears!
It was the longest intelligible sound sequence we have ever heard from his mouth.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Yay! 😀

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

aww that’s beautiful Andro!! 🙂

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

Wow Andy
What a break through !
Our amazing Virgo Speechie said to us when the boys where 3 & 4 and non verbal, that song would be the key to get the language motor started…She wasn’t wrong..
What a moment, and with song its not forced, which makes it all the more spine tingley…xxx
Golden.

Andromeda
Andromeda

Aw thanks sweeties, loving your kind words like sunshine, mmwah!

I thought it was interesting he was on a hammock as the movement mimics the movement of a horse, so the swinging affecting the left/right brain connection might have been helpful too maybe?
It was curious as he actually was almost screaming it – it did seem forced I mean.
Anyway, it felt like little miracle – a gift of hope for us on his special day. xx.

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

it’s in there, just a rusty to get out !

we moved on to dancing and pointing (apparntly auty kids not fans of pointing so a 2 birds one stone thing) in front of old sesame st clips next, lots of old groovy song learning things …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIPvKk1ZWsg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX9J7WcYtxI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX9J7WcYtxI

xxx

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

*apparently

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ9WiuJPnNA

doubled up on last ones soz..meant this one .. huge fav

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Most Aspies/Auties find rocking in hammocks soothing, it’s great when sensory overload hits.

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

Too true.
Might be worth googling lycra hammocks / hammocks to try and put one up at home Andy. xx Did us wonders. Would be great if funding could cover it.

anotherGemini
anotherGemini

Well my take is very simple – Katy is young and when you’re young you think, believe and say a lot of stupid stuff. Multi-
Scorp or not.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

WARNING!
Serious about turn oncoming!
Being a pod person I had never actually listened to KP’s music.
Her voice is fuqin awesome.
Have decided I totally love her.
😀
I’m not even kidding.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Oh who cares!!! FFS can’t you shut up for more than 2 secs.?

Must we know every single thought you have?? It’s fuqing boring.
You must have a form of Tourette’s or something.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

You fuqin anonymous chicken shit– go back to your anonymous chicken shit hole, come back when you’ve gotten the bur out of your chicken shit anonymous ass & grown some fuqing balls.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Btw, you’re not nearly as anonymous as you think you are, fuqtard. Piss off.

Exasperated Toro
Exasperated Toro

Your reply is more disgusting than anything anon said. I think some of us DO agree with anon, however silent we are. I don’t post but I feel the need to show some support to anon who had the balls to say something I myself don’t. I love the community spirit on this blog, I get soooooo much from this place, I’m here each day but you don’t see me venting every thought in my head and sharing it here whether you like it or not. Yeah yeah yeah tell me to ignore her posts but it’s a bit hard… Read more »

Andromeda
Andromeda

I think it’s that, we who do post, love that there is a such an accepting vibe here. It’s probably why you like reading it too. So when someone comes out with something like what anon did, it just makes me not want to comment at all. If you have nothing nice to say, don’t say it! You were going well with that.. If anon would even say it differently, perhaps Blue would take it on board. As it came out, it’s just a troll comment. When the mean troll spirit invades our little happy space that hurts us all,… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

What you do or do not post is your biz & of no consequence regarding the frequency or subject matter or your own personal subjective preferences when it comes to other people’s posts. So you don’t post often– so someone else shouldn’t either. You only post about these particular thoughts– so should others. You see where I’m going? You & dweedle dee need to get up off others. First though you’ll need to quit obsessively picking at your own scabs alone at your computer screens. These jabs like mean-spirited cheap shots on the playground (see anony’s above– good for you… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

You guys know we bounce in shifts here, right? I just happened to be the bouncer on duty this weekend. Transiting Mars on my Pluto-Moon in the 7th: my weekend to work. Hi ho hi ho…

Emg
Emg

transits transits transits. Can you see it happening. Love your shift work Scorp inc

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Hey Exasperated Toro … a bit of tolerance goes a long way in a small online community like Mystic’s blog. A lot of the commentators have been here for years (me since 07) and I do find it somewhat disturbing to see nasty, mean spirited and passive aggresive attacks on someone just making a light hearted comment. I mean what if a person’s frequent commenting is because they are suffering acute depression and this is currently the only space they feel safe enough to connect with others? I’m not saying this is the case with Blue – but in general.… Read more »

Dark moon
Dark moon

“a bit of tolerance goes a long way in a small online community like Mystic’s blog” Damn right!! The blog is an accepting vibe and perhaps I could have worded my comment better but I was bloody pissed off. For once I’d like to just jump on the blog and not have it hijacked by the one person. EVERYBODY deserves a say non? I understand that the blog is a safe place for people to connect to others and I wouldn’t deny them that. Blue admitted to being a “dodgy blog hog” so please spare me the guilting that I… Read more »

Pi
Pi

uh, everybody *does* get a say, mate. it’s called the comment box. I think it’s worth re-reading prowln’s comment, she makes some very reasonable points.

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

If mystic was worried about others commenting too frequently she could boot them off the blog or put word limits on comments. So…who exactly is acting like this is their blog? The one’s commenting or the one’s policing comments?

I’ve taken negative feedback for over sharing in the past. So be it. I am glad I ha the space to come to when I had no other and that mystic is clearly
much more tolerant than her fans.

If you need a blog to control, go make one.

david5379
david5379

Honestly, I haven’t gotten in an internet fight or anything resembling it for a real long time and I have lost my taste for it, but you know what, you can go fuck yourself. Accusing blue moon of anything is bullshit and we shouldn’t even have to resort to someone possibly being in a bad place to defend her. The fact you take personal issue with blue boggles my mind. All she said was something relevant to mystics post, she likes the music. And somehow, reading that, you feel irritated? This isn’t a zero sum game, she isn’t taking space… Read more »

Pi
Pi

the ‘community spirit’ is great on this blog because we don’t go around being rude to each other. you see what i’m getting at here…?

anon flux
anon flux

ahh thank you for the little belly laugh in the midst of the ugly pi – sometimes your purity of thought is enchanting.As was the original comment by the blue lady. It was a curious one to snap over. Mars in Libra is starting to wear some peeps out – this is what I meant on the other post about mercury retro combined with it being ‘interesting’. Suspect there’ll be a lot of people snapping over something minor that isn’t actually what caused their gripe in the first place over the next month or so.

Pi
Pi

ah i see..! you’re far more attuned to the astro than I am AF 🙂 xx

Pi
Pi

merc rets in aqua tho. maybe it’s time for an ideas spill. system comms shakeup / shakedown. Bring out your gripes! is that what you mean..

anon flux
anon flux

there’s that whole community angle of aqua and the libran mars vibe is all about the balance of power in relationships + it goes retro on Neptune in Pisces so it’s foggy from the get go.

anon flux
anon flux

that’s the path I’m guessing online comms might traverse anyway 😉

I like the thought of an ‘ideas spill’ combined with the creativity of neptune and the space that mercury gives you to revise + the energy of mars to get it done. Fingers crossed…

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

I’m sick of seeing this shit on here, & not Blue or anyone here minding their biz & spontaneously contributing in a sense of community should be subject to your chicken shit bitching & criticism.
It’s not nice.

And I’m not nice right now. I am speaking to you in a language you understand. Ya hear?

*flush*

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

Oh my God, I’m laughing so hard…….
Scorp on, my sharp-tailed sister.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Hissy hissy kissy kissy, Pluto brother xx

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

What a fucking HATER you are…go troll somewhere else or keep your “who cares” phobia bullshit to yourself where it belongs. Yes…you are anonymous and NO ONE FUCKING CARES

(love to you blue)

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Anonymous? Nope.

Shameful & shameless. Tsk tsk

I had to flush that one twice!

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

I wish there was a whisper function so you could tell me who the anonymouse is!! 😉

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Ahh, well, I assumed “anonymous” must have a deep fear of having a voice no one cares to hear since it projects that view like vomit on the blog. And I wanted to push that button.

(no one loves you, anonymous. no one cares. no one wants to know about what you think. or feel. ever. the end.)

you know, that sort of thing.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

This clip covers absolutely everything:
– ladies in red
– tourettes
– love
– Scorp Incs response to anonymouse

All in one clip!!
Genius!

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

damn!

here

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

— and scene.

😛

xx prowln

Pi
Pi

Anonymous, I would rather hear all of Blue Moon’s thoughts than one more of yours, if this extremely uncool comment is any indication of what we’d hear more of from you.

anon flux
anon flux

Hello mars in libra + mercury in retrograde shadow! This place runs like clockwork.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Don’t worry Blue … I actually found myself singing along to her makeup/breakup song in the car the other day and only realised it was KP after when the DJ announced it. 😉

Emg
Emg

love love love you Blue.

Emg
Emg

Ps don’t stand too close to scorp. There’s some venom in that girl’s tail. I’m still blinking! Woooo you go girl

calypso
calypso

yeah baby you’re a firework!
come on let your colours burst 🙂
make ’em go ah, ah, ah!
you’re gunna leave ’em all in awe, awe, awe xx

and then she even mentions you in the next line Blue 😉

catfish moon
catfish moon

It is so out of my norm to like anyone of her style/profession/etc. but I do like her. Must be my scorp north node.

Hopeful Romantic
Hopeful Romantic

I can completely resonate with everything Katy Perry said. Being a female multi-scorp myself — Sun, Moon, Mercury all in Scorp in 1st house with a Libra ascendent (like Katy’s) and my Venus in Libra. It’s the combination of the intense, secretive, dedicated Scorpio side mixed with the beautiful, light, aiming to please side of Libra that helps to understand why Katy says “Geishas are basically, like, the masters of loving unconditionally.” The mix of Libra and Scorpio feels like geisha energy. The sexual side of Scorpio, the romantic and need for protection and acceptance from the Libra side. It… Read more »

Hopeful Romantic
Hopeful Romantic

And I love the first image…the red is very Scorpionic!

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

Ha! i get the triple scorp vibe, but as for the statement re: geisha I think she’s off the mark. Maybe in the sense that if “All is OK, client upholds various codes etc, then in some sort of Zen ‘in the moment’ way it is ‘unconditional’-as in unconditional as long as certain conditions are met first. So it doesn’t matter if client is ugly man covered in hairy moles, he get’s some kind of zen unconditional love as long as he behaves appropriately etc. But then ‘love’ may not be the term we are after here, as a geisha’s… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

“mogadon harpie”… you kill me sometimes Mystic!

Pi
Pi

i fuqing loved that. 😀

Ms.
Ms.

I am a multiple conjunct scorpio and I think that like someone above said that geisha’s are really high trained artists, trained into the service of emotion and entertainment- insert your feminist and D/s views afterwards.

I think this speaks volumes for Katy and her views on love and service than it does of scorpios who know when the actress is on stage and when one is to take ones face off and leave it backstage..

LEF
LEF

late degree 12th house Scorpio stellium here (Sun, Moon, Uranus)… Merc RX in scorp, too (early 11th). Love is full of conditions (probably set by Libra stellium – Venus, Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto). Mars/Sag rising keeps the party from getting too intense, but doesn’t play by anyone’s rules… I set the conditions. Meet them or fuq off (hair flick).

Jokes aside, I think unconditional love is relative. What one may view as love, could be viewed as dependence by another.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

” I set the conditions. Meet them or fuq off (hair flick)”

😆 I like your style LEF!

Agree with you re unconditional love being relative. Could be a recipe for Love Zombie-ism depending on low Venus/Neptune aspects.

LEF
LEF

My style can sometimes shock and awe … but I dig that about my scorp saturation. Thanks for the support, Bot 😉

I’ve been looking at my natal for about 5 years now (self-guided) so I’m curious about your mention of Neptune. Mine is in Sag; quintile Venus.

… Can relate to LZ syndrome … Too much, on occasion. … Wish I had some other sign action to give me perspective.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

What’s all this crap about geisha’s and unconditional love??? Geez louise … geisha’s are just the Japanese version of a prostitute. But because the Japanese are so frackin’ caught up with the concept of “honour” and such an intensely sexist culture, it would be unseemly and low for a man to actually pay a woman for sex. Instead they dress it all up as this refined courtly horseshit …. blah, just another variation on the subjugation of women that has repeated itself across all human cultures at various times.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

ps. Katy Perry is a twat.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

ps ps. Yeah I am uber grumpy right now, hence the snippy tone of my posts.

Andromeda
Andromeda

Yes, yes & yes. Continue being grumpy, it works for me.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

well I’m glad it’s working for somebody coz it sure is pissing me off!!! 😉

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Actually Geishas and prostitutes are two different things in Japan, traditional Geisha’s don’t sleep with the men they entertain.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Oh I know I know …. but it’s the same old deal isn’t it? Women being subservient to men. And geisha’s did (by their own choosing I believe) sleep with their clients. Although it was not considered an expected thing.

Andro
Andro

Depends on the socio-economic level as to where the line of geisha / prostitute starts to blur I imagine?

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

There have been periods in modern times where the lines have blurred, but originally, Geishas were forbidden to sleep with their customers for money. They were actually quite powerful women in their own ways, it’s only when judged through Western eyes and cultural norms that it appears to be degrading and subservient.

Andromeda
Andromeda

It’s an interesting topic, I looked at the male geisha thing briefly & it is quite striking how the role went from Lord’s companion & war buddy, trusted strategist & diplomatic attache, to jester, to comedian to entertainer to becoming a feminine role.. I like that it was a warrior role. I guess after living in modern Japan it has coloured my view point. Man it is socially very rough.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Yeah, it’s fascinating how they’ve evolved and changed over the course of history. I saw a documentary about how modern Japan has almost killed Geisha culture, it was quite sad to see actually.

starlore
starlore

That’s interesting Saturnalien, I recently-ish asked a Japanese guy if geishas were prostitutes and heimmediately replied in the affirmative. So now I’m confused. Can you explain more please?

starlore
starlore

Thanks!

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

I’m going to point out here that the FIRST Geisha were not women.

Not in order to negate your points at all, but to add another dimension to the notion of subjugation.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Good point Mille! I completely forgot about that!

Emg
Emg

So, pray tell us more??

MatRayVon
MatRayVon

Has anyone ever seen even an average looking, let alone ugly geisha?? Beauty can be a fantastic blessing– and a terrifying curse. I think Katy’s saying she supports the human spirit of making the best of a bad situation.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

It’s hard to say considering they’ve usually got so much slap trowelled onto their faces it’s impossible to tell what the actual woman underneath looks like.

flowerchild
flowerchild

My brother has five planets in Scorpio and Scorpio Ascendant. (Cap Sun though). He is a very very intense guy. He has extreme love for his kids and for animals, I’d say his love there is unconditional. But in other situations and with other people, no, the love is very conditional. He is someone who sees right through to the heart and truth of any person or situation, and he will tell you. He is extremely intelligent as well, and has a wicked sense of humor. You just do NOT want to be on his bad side….. He beat up… Read more »

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

Gieshas + unconditional love? Whatever gets you through the night, Katy. Of course, as there were many thousands of these young girls SOLD into servitude, it’s entirely possible that for some it was a vehicle of enlightenment, but I would think there was a great deal of suffering involved, and this is backed up by what I’ve read, including Memoirs of a Geisha. But I want to comment on the Scorp angle you originally queried about, Mystic. For starters, I have AC-Neptune-Venus-Mars-Lilith-Moon-Ceres-Vesta in Scorp, much of it sextile Pluto, so there’s this fundamental Scorp principal that I think could justify… Read more »

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

Oh – having said all that, I don’t know Katy Perry, but the dress works, the hair definitely works, and I’d be more than happy to be unconditional with her.

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

And what I appreciate about the photo is the irony. The dress bridges the two worlds beautifully. Her expression says “yeah, right”, and she’s obviously got about as much connection with the hens as the US congress has with the general population…………but the dress connects her face with the surroundings so craftily. The Spring light is beautiful, as well.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

I don’t know about this business regarding Scorps being all into intensity and passion when it comes to love. In my experience and observation, they like the “idea” of it – but not the reality. The loss of control over one’s emotional state and the vulnerability to another that love entails – well I just see people with significant Scorp ducking and running for cover when love touches their heart. They seem to prefer destroying it than opening up to it. Nope I’m sorry, but in my experience Scorp = Player. Regardless of whether male or female. Scorp loves control… Read more »

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

Prowlin’ – I do understand the bit about control and vulnerability, definitely a challenge. But we don’t always fail in that regard. Maybe since it is so hard to surrender, the feeling of vulnerability is incredible – that’s what I was referring to above, really. I don’t think this Scorp person has really been much of a player, because it feels so dishonest and then the sweetness and thrill is not there. But really surrendering to another is the ultimate erotic experience, so even the lowest of Scorps wants this, I believe. It’s not accurate or realistic to assert that… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Hmmm … I wouldn’t go so far as to say Scorpios are incapable of love. More that it has to be on their terms or ELSE – and be prepared to cop a lot of stinging in the process as you are punished for accidentally making them feel stuff without their permission! 😉 And I’m only talking about the Scorpionic types I have come across. Of course there have to be ones out there who can rise above their own ego defenses and surrender. It would be very sad indeed if there weren’t … as on the flip side, I’ve… Read more »

If
If

As an Eros-Psyche-Bast-DarkMoon-Venus-Neptune-Isis-Asc in Scorp (with Venus exact sextile to Pluto too), thanks for nailing it so eloquently, Plutoboy.
Yep, there are lo-Scorps out there, but the haute ones can and do surrender/do unconditional love. As for Katie and Geisha’s…I also agree. Meh.

Pi
Pi

“Being lovable is a great challenge.”

DAMN RIGHT IT IS

*finishes 3rd lunchtime gin and tonic*

wy duz noone luv me 😈

JOKE 😆

Pi discovers smiley codes.

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

You’re awesome, Pi. Being lovable is probably my greatest challenge. Doesn’t mean I’m not loved, just such a tragedy to not take it all in and feel all that sublime sweetness.
I once had a guru, a real deal Master, total love. Someone asked him what’s the one best thing we could do…………he said “make yourself loveable”.
I never forgot that.

ms.vervain
ms.vervain

Certainly there is a proclivity to destroying what they love in a heavily Scorpionic native, this is just the natural influence of Pluto. However, my personal experience with Scorpio types is quite the opposite of ‘player’. Plutoboy is indeed SuperScorp, and I was close (too close) to a Scorp Sun/Asc for many years……. never experienced anything player-like with either, nor have I seen anything other than loyalty to their mates in my Scorpy female friends.
Katy’s dress….. hmmmm….. at least she’s flying the Scorpio flag, traditional red/black. 😉

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

Ah, Plutogirl, it’s you………..my favorite Plutonian.

ms.vervain
ms.vervain

Good morning, Plutoboy……………

calypso
calypso

right ON, Pluto boy! You described that so beautifully.

Scorps = players? Ah, not in these parts….I have the opposite problem and allow the heart to be engaged even when it’s not appropriate. There are cases in which I’m totally in for a physical encounter and nothing more, but if I’m aware of that I will not fail to communicate it directly and clearly.

Jessiemo
Jessiemo

Anyway, back to the photo, the first thing I thought was ‘how very Something More’ (the fabulous photo series by Tracey Moffat.) Annie Leibovitz must know the work and has clearly been influenced by it.
Can’t stand Katy Perry. Don’t like her aesthetic, don’t like her voice. Have to tolerate my nine year old playing her all the time. Which is fine. Nine and ten year olds are entitled to like her.

Veronica
Veronica

Yes I know the photo you mean, and Tracey Moffatt is a Scorpio too, btw

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

wow – impressed with your artworld astro insider knowlege! I love Tracey Moffat and her style and impact! Will have a to check out the one you’re referring to – multi scorp does make sense….the steamy drama and mysterious senarios hmmmm

Kate
Kate

Scorpio rising, Scorpio in Venus and Uranus in the 12th- Virgo Sun here. I think she’s being facetious when she says that about Geishas. She is with John Mayer and she may be referring to herself. I’m guessing that she probably has to play a role with him, after all, she’s always playing a role. She is smart, a pop singer, but does not have all the answers. No one does. When I was younger, I fantasized about being kidnapped and made to marry a man, someone whom I’d be completely desirous of, but it was a fantasy of not… Read more »

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

love your truth Kate

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

ugh..cultural appropriation..chicken hawking…yuck…. just say no.

and that bottom dress.? puleeze. Chinese frog closures mixed with kimono sleeves and other Japanese like accessories because we don’t care if it is mixing cultures right? All Rook Same..haha. Drop the yellow face Katy unless you are going to date an asian man, then I’ll shut up. So tired of media over-sexualization of the asian woman.

serenity
serenity

Lots of sextiles, conjunctions — not a complex chart, not a complex individual. With venus and uranus in sag — you’d think Russell Brand would have stuck around, including all that scorpio. I guess you can’t have 2 gorgeous competitive people dating each other, because they compete with each other for attention and the spotlight. She’s a young scorpio, maybe she’ll mature into that scorpio as her chart demonstrates. I hope so. It should be interesting. She’s probably capable of taking on roles that Vivien Leigh took on. I’d like to see that. She’s got a lot more depth and… Read more »

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

Have to agree with you there.
I think Russ MUST be secretly kicking himself for “the one that got away” AKA her. The reality is, pop star shmop star, he’s unlikely to find a better woman – that we can tell just by looking at her demeanour during the break up vs his. And this from a self declared pod person. Even a tabloid dodging, TV phobe like me can feel. I do have my Lilith in Scorpio tho so…. yeah

Anon
Anon

Meh, I doubt he’s kicking himself. Lol.
I read he’s dating Jemima Khan – someone with brains!

Serenity
Serenity

I’d like to see her break out of this shell soneone else created. She may surprise us. I’m hoping. She’s got potential to. But hey, if she puts out a line of furniture, makeup or clothes when she’s 40 something, That works too.

Andromeda
Andromeda

Yeah, I highly doubt he is kicking himself for dating such a superficial kid. Jemima seems knowledgable and smart, she is a step up from a pretty pop star. I mean Katy is fawning over Corporate America’s main man Obama while Jemima supported Assange… There is kind of a serious difference in perspective right there.

Anon,
Anon,

exactly Andy!! Not only supported Assange but was executive producer on a doco about him. Read an article about her recently and think she’s awesome. She’s a writer and a human rights campaigner. They seem very well suited. Brand being a political creature himself.

I hate the inference by BM that he must be kicking himself – why because she’s pretty? There’s more to an attraction than the physical!!

Andromeda
Andromeda

Totes Anon & I did not know how involved she was as a campaigner. Good on her.
You know I just learned that Princess Di’s father was possibly also Jemima’s father, as the mother apparently had an affair with him. They were dear friends and I think look quite alike!

Regardless, I am sure that Russell’s interest in the powers that be would be well fascinated with Jem’s insider knowledge of that world & her political affiliations.

Anon,
Anon,

Totes!! She went back to Uni after splitting with Khan and has a degree in Middle Eastern politics

I though she was just a socialite until i accidently stumbled upon an article about her in a mag.

http://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/russell-brand-opens-up-on-his-love-for-jemima-khan-29924823.html

And she’s an Aqua. Suits his Gem. Will have to compare their charts now 🙂

Andromeda
Andromeda

Share when you do!

calypso
calypso

yes, arguably I’m a better woman than KP….

Anon,
Anon,

😀

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

lol
ok, I was overtired and just being a dodgy blog hog

calypso
calypso

lol, no sweat Blue – we’d all give her a run for her money 😉

have a great time back home xx

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

Oddly enough I can’t see what the physical attraction is at all with her. Every straight guy I know fancies her but I find her utterly unsexy and generic looking. Just not attractive to me at all. I’m sure she’ll be horrified and totally crushed when she hears that poor thing.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

I meant “better” in terms of being a “good girl” kind of archetype. She just strikes me as someone who is um, I dunno…good at heart, despite some dodgy styling and the odd soundbite. She seems like a nice person to me. I was pretty tired last night and went on a bit of a vitriolic anti KP rant. I figure it has more to do with my own unresolved shadow issues than anything to do with barn yards, chickens, pop stars, slebs or politics. Basically I’m an attention seeking loner who would LOVE to be in the position she… Read more »

If
If

Katie opinions aside, Blue, your sharing of your internal evolution is so honest, and SO heading in the right direction that lately I have often felt like jumping through the blog to give you the big unconditional haute-Venus-Neptune-in Scorp-trine-Jupiter-Chiron-in Piscean 4th hug that I keep warm for for those who deserve it .
Consider yourself hugged, luv, from way down here in Sydney, and get more sleep! x

LeoEscapeArtist
LeoEscapeArtist

Neptune in Pisces has Katy’s resume and is very interested.

Riawyn
Riawyn

I think geishas have to be masters of unconditional love because no matter what their patron does, or who their patron(s) is/are; they still have to love him. Love, or the illusion of love is vital for their business. I am currently reading The Vally of Amazement by Amy Tan which is about Chinese courtesans at the beginning of the 20th century and this theme is vital to their survival. I have 3 planets in Scorpio and it is my midheaven.

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen

I have to say I didn’t think much about Katy Perry until I saw her documentary, Part of Me. It was made about her first tour and also covered her relationship with Russell and its falling apart. I have to say I was so impressed and inspired watching it. Someone up above called her a coat hanger starette…well, actually as covered in the documentary she was very actively involved in the designing of everything involved in her tour. She had a say about every costume and every detail on stage…it was all her vision. And she was rejected from record… Read more »

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

I like her style pop Bettie Page look, very cute. Beautiful hair.
She doesn’t annoy me, seems like a nice girl.

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen

yeah, like I’m not saying she’s perfect or anything but I don’t understand why everyone hates on celebrities and every little comment they make. She seems nice to me too.

Andromeda
Andromeda

She just said she helped Obama win Wisconsin.
Her naivety is dangerous.
Maybe she is nice, but she needs to be a sight more than that given her impact.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

haven’t seen it. Now I want to …

Pi
Pi

the geisha image confuses and enrages me.

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

I love it. I see it as theatrical costume, nothing more or less.
Geishas have always entranced me the makeup, costumes not the lifestyle.

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

What is the stylist trying to say with this photo – that KP is like a barn? Lol. It seems the dress/location was chosen for color. At least red seems a good scorp color.

Katrina
Katrina

From the waist up, she’s WEARING that dress. From the waist down, it’s wearing her. Geisha’s the masters of unconditional love? No. No. No. They are trained in the art of seduction, which is a completely different thing. Sublimated love (if ‘love’ comes into it at all) is what they’re good at. And sublimated disgust. Sublimated everything really – except seduction. Kat (Cancerian – I still rock the old school tag.)

Emg
Emg

Can you really be ‘trained’ in the art of seduction. I suppose you can be trained to be an actor but the best ones just are as the best seductress is just that and never needed an inch of teacher to get her there. I say this because I was lucky enough (cough) to be taken on a stag night where we ended up at a pole dance club and honestly, there was not on neutrino worth of seduction for me and the whole hour felt so contrived and without any form of real sexual expression. In fact my chap… Read more »

PureLibra
PureLibra

I like Perry’s songs and also the fact that she is not completely naked, only half naked in her clips which is refreshing these days. Some of her songs are empowering for women because they are about ‘girl power’ in an asexual way that isn’t just selling lust. I love her for this. I see the Scorpio in her when she tries to pretend she is a strong woman. I think she is very insecure as a person though yet arrogant at the same time. She has a weird pattern of idealising Air sign douches. These relationships are predicated on… Read more »

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

um sorry, your point being?

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

sorry. I actually agree with your comments, just that last line kind of wtf-ed me but my apologies for sounding a tad sharp.
Defensive moi?
#knackered.com
It’s pillow hugging time for lil me
peace out

PureLibra
PureLibra

It’s ok. I was just highlighting how stupid her comment sounded.

She could have said ‘prostitutes offer unconditional love’ and thought she sounded deep.

I agree with the person above who said she is trying to justify her use of cultural appropriation cause she got backlash for use of it in her performance.

It’s just an awkward ‘Perry’s publicist wanted her to say it so perry made it sound like a pillar of her beliefs’ moment.

PureLibra
PureLibra

Ps not trying to link geishas to prostitutes… Didn’t realise sounded like that.

I just think you can’t comprehend unconditional love is involved when power and money are engaged – both of which have selfish ends. Unconditional love is selflessness without an expectation of gain in return.

Perry obviously doesn’t know what UL is. Can just imagine her with mayer.. ‘Hey I gave u unconditional love. U owe me.’

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

lol

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

been reading Robert Bly’s little book on the Human Shadow and figure I must be subconsciously jealous of our KP up there. It makes a lot more sense to say that than the crud I was spewing last night.

Kat
Kat

Hmnn, my 29 and counting Libra Moon nestled with Neptune/Jupiter Scorp and Scorpi ASC finds the get-up garish- prefer elegant/timeless threads. My Scorpi stuff and Mars Square Pluto hate to look like we care!

To me all the water signs are masters of Maya, creating illusion/spells- but try to wipe the water from the mirror. Scorpis see all, but don’t want anyone to notice. Hence the costumes. Like secret agents- it’s all a role.

Nerina
Nerina

Sorry, I like her but what a wank. As if you’d take anything pop star star, regardless of sign, says. Drivel is the highest regard I can award her meanderings…and I’m an “allegedly” shallow Gemini… Next we’ll be saying gaga is the next Warhol…

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

LOL! 😀

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

Actually I could ALMOST roll with that Gaga/ Warhol theory. Almost. BTW there are things I like about Mz Perry Her insanity and total hubris in taking on the insanity that is Monsieur Brand for instance? I respect that. It was totally brave of her and I like my slebs brave and honest. Just loathing the whole “champagne politico” vibe but it is in no way limited to her. Dress and chickens, yeah, stylist was either high or extracting the urine at her expense. Why a multiScorp would let herself be controlled by anyone is beyond me. Didn’t she have… Read more »

scorpio_rising
scorpio_rising

Kanyne West is the self proclaimed next WARHOL! oh, boy. NOT. poor Warhol is rolling in his grave.

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

Warhol wad unique enough to say there is probably not going to be another.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Heh that’s funny, coz I always thought Warhol was totally full of drivel.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

but seriously, what well known artist isn’t full of drivel? It’s sort of standard.

leogroover
leogroover

Katy is so hot it doesn’t matter what she says. if she was being her multi scorp she would not say such things. She is possibly controlled by the music company machine.

Kat
Kat

Agreed! Scorps don’t strut our ties to the rich and powerful- even if we are rich and powerful!LOL!

Veronica
Veronica

I have always loved her look/s from the first time I saw her.
She looks like an old school Siren.

Don’t like her music, the little I’ve heard. She is young, I do agree that she hasn’t really hit her straps yet, she may not though.

Another multiple Scorp, Bjork, was really original and arresting from a way young age. Lorde is a Scorp too, very original lyrics.

Veronica
Veronica

Actually, maybe her ‘gift’ is in her look, the visuals – I often love the colour of her hair, or something she’s wearing, or one film clip where she’s wearing braces on her teeth and looking goofy, and the very neptunianesque film clip with snoop dog, candy canes, pink haired dancers

Anon
Anon

That whole “look” thing is so Libra rising

Veronica
Veronica

Yes, you’re quite right.
I do happen to be libra rising, and an artist to boot. The whole ‘look’ thing speaks more to me than words do

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

adore Bjork’s music

Geminian
Geminian

I wonder sometimes with Ms Perry. There is such Scorpionic intensity there, no fools a suffering, a strength of voice and a look that is both beautiful and alluring that to me is true to Scorpio form. But something undermines it. I have a Scorpio moon so in a way I get that. To boldly go and yet be so undoing of the self. I have a suspicion that she is yet to really hit her straps, something in a way hasn’t quite unfolded. Russell was a precursor but she isn’t quite there yet. She knows it to to my… Read more »

J*
J*

Pluto on my Asc, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter in Scorp…

Never bought into any subservient clichés, but I do love what Katy’s stylists occasionally come up with, she seems a little hit and miss. I reinvent my look regularly, that’s probably a multiscorp trait we share.

Andromeda
Andromeda

Geishas are about unconditional love.
Mechanics are about unconditional love.
Bankers are about unconditional love!

“In the Tibetan Buddhist view, our part of the universe is known as ‘Endurance’ because here all sentient beings endure emotions and sufferings.
Here we learn to patiently “endure hardship with exceptional courage and excel in bravery.”

To love in the face of hardship requires exceptional courage.

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

Amen!

(I think she was trying to justify cultural appropriation with that quote. I doubt she’s spent too long pondering the life of geishas)

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

exactly. trying to seem like just because she read memoirs of a geisha that means she knows all about asian female’s lives.

Emg
Emg

Has anyone read the last empress of china?
I read it through my fingers at times.

Andromeda
Andromeda

Ooh, been meaning to read that, seems fascinating. Have you FTF’d (FeltThruFingertips=FTF) The Pillowbook?

Emg
Emg

I feel a lot through my fingertips but not Pillowbook? Enlighten me please???
The last empress was truly a read to grimace by in places and the utter ruthless nature of the human animal was shocking but I did enjoy the experience and the historical tour.

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

Want to! Sounds VERY interesting

Andromeda
Andromeda

It’s a lot of notes by Sei Shonagon, a court lady in the 990’s onwards. If you are into this kind of thing it’s quite interesting, along with the diary of Lady Murasaki..

Emg
Emg

As is normal Andi you have hit the target again. I can’t say I love without any condition and I don’t know it as wise but I can say I have loved with courage in the face of insurmountable odds. And continue to do so. I will not admit I don’t love when clearly I do. And I cannot allow love to leave me when I still feel it or to push it down or away. Courage to be authentic.

Andromeda
Andromeda

Go girl! You abound in courage, I know it.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

Courage is not a quality that you lack, authenticity neither!

Emg
Emg

I’m blushing…

Serenity
Serenity

Yes!!!!! So true.

Andromeda
Andromeda

My fervent Scorp Moon kinda likes this heavy dress. And I quite like Katy!

Was curious why Russell dropped her like a hot potato.
Then I saw the video of one of her songs.
Basically it is an ad for the war machine that is the US army.

Boy dumps girl, she enlists, goes off to kill hungry brown people in foreign countries to vent her aggression. How liberated! Not.

I would have dropped her too.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

Barf Andro, I’m so glad YOU said that because I couldn’t agree more! That self important & self righteous crap about Obama and their relationship. Puke. She strikes me as so egotistical and self important in a really unintelligent way. I know she has a lot going for her and I’m not here to diss her out of hand but seriously, this is one of many times I’ve seen her, read some crud she’s said or seen a video and thought WTF? Like am I missing something? Why does everyone think this woman so special? I’m used to missing shitz… Read more »

Pi
Pi

‘barf’ now there’s a word i love and i secretly giggle when I read it. 😀

Andromeda
Andromeda

I don’t mind celebrities who are serious students of life going for the jugular. I like Russell Brand’s take on things (well mostly) for example and he highlights things using his star power that are worthy.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

yes, that’s a valid point.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Cha-ching!

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

No, you’re not missing something Mystic. Anything a Pop star says I take with a grain of salt.

Not a fan of her “music”. Have to run out of any shop that plays it. Ugh it’s TORTURE!

Still can’t believe she’s a Scorp.

Anyway…. I LOVE that dress!!!! It’s gorgeous. I’d get a shorter version if I could afford it. Or better still, get a SHIRT version 🙂
My Venus in libra loves florals. 🙂

Andro
Andro

Maybe she has directed all her Plutonic regenerative force into her facade? She is apparently Libra Rising.. Hyper Shallow?

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Yeah that makes sense because I always thought she vibed Libran.

No offence to the lovely Librans here. The energy of the sun and Moon signs express themselves differently.

I find some moon in Librans painful to be around. Hyper shallow is spot on!!! They drive me mental – so scatter brained.

Give me a Libran with Scoro moon (like the lovely EEL here) than a Scorpio with a Libra moon any day.

Pi
Pi

hmm. i wonder if a scorp with a libra moon would actually be The Business at relationships. blood-lust tempered by airy, balanced moon.

that or the quid-pro-quo thing would be off the chart.

anyone..?

Andro
Andro

Judging by Katy’s penchant for untrustworthy (much as I like Russ) sleazeballs, I would say NO! Unless she is into turning pig’s ears into silk purses & can make ANY walking haemmaroid a palatable ongoing concern. But still, I don’t call that a relationship.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Pi, the Scorp sun/libra moon lady I worked for once ran her on business – strategy!! How apt!
First time I met her I thought she was a Libra – she was all light and fluffy but then she took me out for coffee to pick my brain and I’ll never forget the instant she looked at me with x-Ray eyes and I said “are you a Scorpio?”
Wouldn’t want to cross her. 😯

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Oh soz, I saw The Business and went on a roll. Lol
I don’t think the combo is good for relationships. Scorp would want something deep and passionate, Libra moon would have trouble dealing with such deep emotions / feelings.
One can’t be delicate and well mannered when things get hot n heavy!! Ya know! Lol

I have Venus in libra. I struggle with it sometimes. 🙂

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Short answer: Yes.

xx Pi

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Booooo

Altho, my Libran Moon is conjunct Pluto, so, not so Libran after all…

xx Scorpbot 😛

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

oh nooooo! I had no idea you had moon in Libra and i wasn’t having a go at anyone here on the blog. Just this lady in particular and another air sign with Libra moon (too much air).

You have a lovely vibe. I’m one of your biggest fans. 🙂 xx

Andro
Andro

Yes you are beloved Scorp Inc! and my Kataka son has Libran moon, it’s so sweet. 😉

AirOnFire
AirOnFire

The whole “libras are super shallow” thing is NOT a very “deep” observation 😉 I don’t get SOME scorpios. Toxic arrogance and manipulation (speaking from personal experience) does not equal depth.
Honestly, I have had enough of it. Saying “no offence” doesn’t change the offensive words.

Andromeda
Andromeda

Ah yeah.. but it’s just astrology y’know? Try having a Scorp Moon or a Leo Sun.. we all get a serve!

Sam
Sam

True Andromeda.
We ALL get a serve!!
How are we to learn without the astro cliches? 🙂

Andromeda
Andromeda

Yes! We need the obviousness to make sense of the subtleties. 😉

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Yeah but that’s coz scorpio moons really do suck!! No offense :mrgreen:

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

Now, now, Prowlin’, that’s a cheap shot, and I know you are so much more articulate than that……… We do suck, though. It’s actually a real challenge to carry this moon, we do come off as secretive, manipulative, and needing control. We strategize without even realizing. We observe and keep the data stored away and use it against others if we feel threatened, and nobody wins when these moments arise. BUT, we love (can, anyway) with great loyalty and passion, will do almost anything for our loved ones and friends, and defend them like an “army of me” (thanks, Bjork).… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

LOL Plutoboy … that took me about half an hour to read due to the one word per line. You do realise I was being cheeky about the moon in scorp comment right? 😉

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

Oh. My apologies. I’ve been out-sarcasmed 🙂

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Teehee … it was a quip to someone saying above me that making a mean comment about an astrological sign and then typing “no offense” wasn’t good enough and then Andy replying “try having a moon in scorpio” 😉

Andromeda
Andromeda

LOL Prowln, I got it alright, 🙂 . This humour is very familiar to me & could have been delivered (minus the astrological allusion) straight from my Cancerian Sis’s witty mouth. That was a real Kataka Komment in my mind. 🙂

Andromeda
Andromeda

She is a fire moon too.. 😉

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

… but I cracked up at the bit about “they just cry too much!!!” LOL

calypso
calypso

I did too 🙂

Aquariarse
Aquariarse

She cray cray.

willowwolf
willowwolf

Oh – geisha’s … Self sacrifice doesn’t mean unconditional love. Tho’ just because someone is stuck in an oppressive regime doesn’t mean that they don’t love unconditionally either. It’s about the individual & their intention. Personally tho’ I think true unconditional love is v.rare and means absence of relationship or self – in an enlightened way … Mmmm

Emg
Emg

I’m with you there. I see unconditional as being very devoid of relating in lots of ways. There is a depth of connection and an ability to love the person for who they are warts and all and be able to walk if that is creating problems for yourself but to stand there what ever is not a healthy place to be. Relating is just that. We have to allow individuals to express and that means every individual.

Ainslie
Ainslie

Do you honestly think Katie had much of a say in what she was wearing for the photoshoot? Coat hanger starlette.

I like her. She’s young and a woman, let her have her flippancy or thought of that moment. We grow into ourselves.Russell Brand is no light weight.. Therefore I think it would be foolish to underestimate her brain or future star power.

No : ) I’m not wearing her perfume,but I think Katy has the potential to make this world a better place.

willowwolf
willowwolf

Virgo stellium just seen other typos 🙁
No good posting with so called smart phone …

willowwolf
willowwolf

Well I don’t feed my chooks looking like that 🙂 I do get obsessive about things tho’ I have 10 breeds not including the colour variations ….. I think in other posts its been mentioned that scorps have an afinity with birds. I a scorp rising stellium which includes Ceres, as well as a virgo stellium – I just love getting dirty 🙂 My neighbours don’t recognise me when I dress up to go out – I love that !
Doesn’t suit Kate tho’

willowwolf
willowwolf

* that dress doesn’t suit Kate in that context*
Virgo stellium happy now 🙂

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