It Hurts To Become

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 “The cusp in the dark matter distribution required to explain the recently found excess in the gamma-ray spectrum at energies of 130 GeV in terms of the dark matter annihilations cannot survive the tidal forces if it is offset by 1.5° from the Galactic center as suggested by observations.”

Dmitry Gorbunov, Peter Tinjakov

 

I said to the sun, ‘Tell me about the big bang.’ The sun said, ‘it hurts to become.’
Andrea Gibson

 

Some astrological things to think about this weekend…

* People return with this Venus Retrograde, some a cause for delight, others a cynical eye roll or even a shudder.

* I know i always express disdain for Pass-Agg but i am thinking that, with Mars in Libra until late July, it could actually be a lost Martial Art that we reclaim and make over into something Zen.

* Asteroid Sappho now in Sagittarius is amazing astro for writing, diarying, poetry and the more whimsical aspects of creative self-expression.

* Eros into Scorpio makes Saturn schizz sexy all of a sudden.

* The encounter of two mighty forces such as Uranus and Pluto (the Zap Zone) is reminiscent of what Jung wrote about a chemical reaction being when two substances come together and each are transformed by the meeting into a different substance.

Venus Retro Returnees, Sappho, Eros & the Zap Zone as personal science experiment will all be explored in next week’s Daily Horoscopes for SURE.

 

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Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Is Venus retro yet? Because somebody did come back. My husband.
I had the “If I could turn back time” speech from him last night. He is going through all kinds of merde, all his grief catching up with him, poor guy. I have compassion. And how healing it was to hear him apologise for his actions, and to hear him say what he liked/loved about me.
The trouble is it’s too fuqing late. I cried all night. Human beings, huh?

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Oh he is a multi-Cap – Sun Saturn Jupe Merc. Neptune in Scorp rising, Gem moon in the 8th. His SN exact conj my Pisces sun stellium.

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

awww 🙁 I hate those “it’s too late” moments.

Venus goes retro this Saturday but often the effects can be felt a few days before.

Gem moon… hmm. This full moon in Gem will be illuminating his natal moon.

At least you got some healing words… closure! Start the new year afresh

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Hugs Chrysalis.

sweetpea
sweetpea

~And they’ll ask you where you’ve been…And you’ll have to tell them again and again~

Hadn’t listned to Dido White Flag album/cd in years but last night I did as I drove around.

“See the Sun”

Can’t say how much I loved and adored her and the inspiration as I went thru back surgeries early 2000’s.

She is Cap, Moon in Aries it appears. My Cap Moon was a bit disappointed in her cussing but then I do a fair share…at least on line. I rarely cuss in person as find it offensive.

~My gawd you need to rinse those puffy eyes~

😆

sweetpea
sweetpea
sweetpea
sweetpea

I love her and always will…

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

I scored a secure job on Friday the 13th: great pay, perks & benefits, flexibility & longevity. You nailed it, Mystic. I really balked at this prospect initially, though, because it involves heavy rotations at nursing homes. Nursing homes/institutions: hello, Mars in my 12th! I’ve always hated nursing homes: the smells (Libra moon), the confinement (north node in Sagg)… And besides, I have been dedicating myself to working alone this past year because I thought that was where it was at for me, not with a company. I mean, I *am* a company all by myself, right? lol But, Evolve… Read more »

Andro
Andro

I think this is a fabulous Mars placement & Chiron in the 1st for this role?! Chiron there surely helps the people see you burning with that healing energy. Mars in 12th will keep you stable & strong I feel, able to move the air around you at will! (I’ve been spraying my vodka lavender crystal essence spray over me the last few days when the air fugs up, it disperses & tightens up the air). Best of luck, hope you enjoy it! At least, you are changing lives for the better, how many of us are able to do… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

I was warrior-ing out with a friend & in between sword throws I told her Chiron’s story. She said, “Wow, I sure could *clang* use a Chiron right now *clang*!” I nearly dropped my sword. I said, “You are Chiron. I am *clang* Chiron.” In the shop I would say she has a very external locus of control; on the field with her, I said, “Wtf– wake up!”

My natal Mars is in Scorp/8th house; true node is on it presently. Persephone on my DC in Virgo. Lady Spring, yes! I live for the equinoxes 🙂

Thank u Andro xx

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

(Warrior-ing out with my Pisces friend)

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

Brilliant news Scorporation Inc !

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Thanks babe! x

Centaurus
Centaurus

Congrats!

No matter what it is or isn’t it’s timely and useful so that’s awesome x

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Agreed! x

Kat
Kat

Wow! I just got an email from someone who wants to discuss full time work- rehab admin- with benefits! Mine evaporated- tx to HCA changes. Calling tomorrow! Onward !!

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Yeah! Forward March 😀

Pi
Pi

really impressed with how you reframed all that scorp inc. wondering what i can do differently too. I hope it’s everything you ever wanted in your work. a couple of grief/loss/transformation comments have popped up in this post. I met someone fabulous in my corner of the world who makes this her profession. As we were talking I remembered some people here talking about death doulas and similar. And the way that there are beginnings of a practice with this, accepting and working with death more as a culture. Does anyone know are there organisations or online communities that specifically… Read more »

Star inspired
Star inspired

Our family has experienced alot of death/loss/grief over the last few years & we’ve felt quite challenged by the clinical environments & general societal denial & ignorance around death, cycles of life, 8th house matters per se, etc… However, I was really re-inspired & heart warmed by ‘Karuna’ a Brisbane (Australia) based charity, who are doing things differently. Their little leaflet has a Lotus flower on the front along with ‘The joy of giving. Dedicated holistic support – the kindest care.’… & then the following: ‘Karuna is inspired in serving the community by the ideals & examples of the Dalai… Read more »

Pi
Pi

thank you Star Inspired! I really appreciate that. I’m sorry you and your family have been through such a hard time in recent years. Yes clinical environments, while they exist for a very good reason, are still pretty difficult places to manifest the kind of intimacy, comfort and togetherness that a farewell-to-life really needs.. in my limited experience at least.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Not a small feat for someone so astro fixed at birth lol. My chart is predominantly water & I think I’m getting how I can use all that fluid power for progressive movement. Not that school’s out– not by a long shot! More to come. Thank u Pi xx

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Congrats Scorp Inc. Such wonderful news. I’m also really impressed that you challenged yourself up look at the opportunities within the 12th. Way to work the astro!! 😀

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

*to look!

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Rah Rah! thank u Scorpbot 😀

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Congratulations Scorpy. A regular pay check is certainly always welcome, and wishing you like minded colleagues.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Paycheck will *rock*! Like-minded colleagues would be icing on the cake mmmm cake… Thank u gemyogi!

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Interview in a Sweatshirt. Just love it, Scorporation xx

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

I checked my teeth afterwards: no spinach, thank goddess.

xx mille

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Also, our gravatars look very nice together, don’t you think? I’m seeing a magic river.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Interesting regarding the Martial Arts comment.. I have been missing my training so much and lately it has been a focus for me. Through my acting I have met stunt men / women who obviously release videos of fights. One girl is an amazing martial artist. I loved watching talented actors with the martial arts. It just gets me going. To find a school that I can utilize with my 10 years of training has been a struggle. So, with that comment I hope to incorporate a martial arts / zen approach through my running. Just a quick thought. Things… Read more »

Star inspired
Star inspired

Ooh, fascinating VE!… I have a friend/ex partner, whose passions are acting & Martial Arts. He lives in Melbourne & is often flying off to Hong Kong to make movies & play/train with amazing people who worked with Bruce Lee, etc.
can give you the training school/place he works at if its of any use to you (?!)

Older/Wiser Virgo
Older/Wiser Virgo

“I know i always express disdain for Pass-Agg but i am thinking that, with Mars in Libra until late July, it could actually be a lost Martial Art that we reclaim and make over into something Zen.”
I read that as a lost “marital” art. LOL!

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

LOL!

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

I don’t know where this fits in the list above but I just found a pair of jeans at the very bottom of my wardrobe that I used to love. At one point they were a bit loose on me. I could at the very least fit into them June last year…..now it is unfathomable that I will ever be able to fit into them again! Seriously. It’s comical!

I don’t know how this happened!

It hurts to become…. too big to fit in your favourite jeans.

pi
pi

Lol! Re hurts to become.. Too big etc

I have two fave jeans, one shredded faded and re-patched, the other skinny black things. Been through at least two too-fat-for phases then slimmed down again. Back in pudgy mode right now but hey it’s a cycle as I now know. Your jeans’ sun will rise again 😉

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Fuq Mystic, you were right on cue with the love life recalbrating to hyper bats for Gems. I had plans to do some sexy Saturn stuff to appease the old fart while he’s parked on my Eros and killing my sex life, so much for that idea… x

leogroover
leogroover

Pass agg sucks IMHO. I’ve been on the wrong end of it for 6 weeks from a “friend” and it has made me angry, despairing,clingy and now I’m up to don’t give a rats. He lives 2 doors down so hard to ignore .I tried to talk with him calmly with no result or a rude response. I took him some fresh strawberries I brought back from Tasmania he said “they may be poisoned’. Yes I said something stupid but it was not that bad and does’nt warrant pass agg. I’ve had to cut him off and accept that we… Read more »

pi
pi

Sounds like he’s power tripping off your sense of guilt or feeling bad. Milking it for all it’s worth. I think you’re doing the right thing by cutting off the air supply to the shitty dynamic. Remove self from equation. Xox you’re cool LG things will change for the better, one way or the other

leogrooer
leogrooer

Thx Pi on this weekend of moping about i need a pat on the back. I did bounce back after some volunteer work which is so fulfilling.

now strong enough to face the lusty leo and our issues.

Andro
Andro

Painful ‘un-becoming’ also.
Day 3 at the hospice.

Reading ‘The Tibetan Book of Living & Dying’ is seeing me through. Transiting Mars on my Pluto in the 4th – my dying friend is Kataka too.

Venus transiting my 8th, it’s painful but such an honour to be here.
Valuing the experience of holding another’s hand as they walk the death road & anchoring light for them.

(Ps not being maudlin, don’t feel the need to wish sympathy, this just IS, the new era is Grace not sympathy methinks) 😉

K-Gem
K-Gem

Grace is a beautiful concept. Wishing you and your friend Grace and peace.

zenduende
zenduende

that’s absolutely beautiful. grace is where it’s at, for sure, Andro xox

Kat
Kat

Dear Andro- My sister said it was so boring waiting to go! I just tried tibe real, present and peaceful for her. She felt she could say anything and it would be OK. Try to get outside in Nature if you can. So lovely of you to be there. It can move quickly when you least expect-

Courage, strength and peace!

Kat

Andro
Andro

Thanks all, her journey over now.
Eating chocolate.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

This leg of her journey is done & so is yours. Onwards & upwards! Take respite for now. xx

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Haven’t been here much of late and just catching up quickly now – blessings to you Andro for sharing that part of the journey with your friend. Hope you’re ok xxx

Andro
Andro

Thank you sweeties.
It was pretty confronting in the end, I am not a nurse & ended up doing a bit of stomach wrenching care. Fuq it was intense.
Had a Chiro treatment today for respite, coming down with something, but I will be fine PTSD aside.
Love to you all, support appreciated, grace under fire ‘n all that but still ..unbecoming is hard.

Pi
Pi

my condolences Andro. Peace to you all. Your friend is safely on her way and free. Lots of love. XOX

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Ah I love that book. I keep mine on the mantle along with One River, Many Wells (Fox, 2000) and books of Rilke & Rumi, in between pics of my grandparents who have passed on.

Sacred journeys. Blessings, Andro. x

Andro
Andro

Thanks guys. Sweet!
I would like to read that Scorp Inc.
3 in the morning & so many night hours alone in the last few days. Poor nurses are busy. When not attending on Beloved friend & everyone goes I practice Phowa, play quiet crystal bowl music.
Liking the Tibetan belief that death is the most important moment of yr life – what a thought! Yr character revealed.

Lovely story of yr sacred bookshelf!
Wish I could burn a cleansing flame here, but fire hazard of course.
Soz to go on, but it’s nice to chat here for a mo, like a little normality, cheers peeps.

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

oo xx

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

I found a article that healped know where we were ”up to” in the process, earlier this year Andy, not usre if you are interetsed, and i wish not to come across as insensitive, i came across this article after my Father passed, and wished i had read it during my stay with him at the hospital. http://www.msia.org/newdayherald/archives/7498-the-dying-process You may be way ahead of me here already … but i found this helpful in the steps of what is happening with the actual body…felt and sounded like the soul was trying to dislodge itself from the body…hope this makes sense… Read more »

Andro
Andro

Thank you Cosmic one! That article is a great gift.
I wish I could have given it to her to read, that line that death is not a failure seems to me is something she might have needed to know.
As in life, she fights to be here, to succeed on her terms.
Will pass it to her partner & son, thanks, xx.

Pi
Pi

thank you so much for sharing that Cosmic. XOX

leogrooer
leogrooer

loooong ((hug)) ando rub on back for your journey

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

(I keep mementos of furry animal family who have crossed over in a different place, a floor-to-ceiling stack of shelves I refer to as the Tower of Power. Some talismans from my pregnancy & son’s birth there too.) xx

Kat
Kat

We have furry friend photos too- esp dear departed!

K-Gem
K-Gem

Maybe if we think of Pass-Agg as The Strategic Pause, The Strategic Space, The Strategic Silence (Pass) to allow the energies to settle before The Deliberate Act (Agg and speaking is action), then i can see how it would be a lost martial art. In fact, THE lost martial art.

If it’s just avoiding schizz, then no. It’s just avoidance. If it’s just silence to cause angst in someone we care about, then it’s emotionally dishonest.

leogroover
leogroover

I’d love to think my “friends” pass agging is a strategic pause but it doesn’t feel that way to me. He is just being a F wit. he regularly bitches about friends and ex’s. I’ve heard it for years and now it is my turn. I am writing to him calmly to ask him not to bitch about me. I’m doing it for closure on a 9 year relationship for my own peace of mind.

Don’t need idiots in my life.

leogroover
leogroover

ooops just bitched about him when I’m saying he bitches about others.

Ok deep breath and centre

Now turn to the light and practice a mind of love that I learnt about in last weekend’s buddhist talk i attended.

K-Gem
K-Gem

Understand the need to get peeps like that out of your life.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

This picture is epic. Exactly how I feel right now.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

He was talking about karmic ties and you know the effort implicit in “love as a verb” versus the downward momentum that is sexual desire.
He wasn’t saying it directly to me par se but just passing on something his teacher had recently said to him
Sex is never free.
Made me reflect on a situation I’m experiencing the details of which, you’ll be pleased to know I have absolutely no desire to reveal whatsoever.

Can I just say ?

MEH
and also

BLEH

Hathors Horns
Hathors Horns

Hear hear! Sex is never free. I’m also in lock down mode. Feel like putting on my own chastity belt! Lol. The urge feels like a fleeting instinct to just fuck the pain away but if one gets entangled with the others auric field then yes, there is a certain kind of “payment” one must make.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

Oh wait I got that wrong
Love is free but sex never is.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

My network chiro told me, love is free but never is.
I thought it was fairly profound.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon

Ugh
Tell me about it dude
Meh all round
Just bleh more than meh

kayo
kayo

ooh lala. venus in cap is on my mars/eros/jupiter/neptune conjunction and eros in scorp on my venus/saturn. in the midst of this astro I will be on a (brief) beach vacation. i am parking my ass at a fancy hotel across from the ocean and plan on renting a bike and frequenting my fave smoothie place. i would be happy not to have to talk to another person (unless it is to score some dream weed – makes riding bike even more magical). is it a shame i regret telling some friends I’ll be in town? they already are trying… Read more »

pi
pi

Yes it’s always a thing to recognise romantic ideals for what they are. Never a picnic I’ll agree. Sorrry to hear about the ups and downs with the cap.

Mind you this is a multi planet Scorpio I was a bit hooked on. Let’s just say I wasn’t daydreaming about long walks on the beach holding hands (although as a pisces, that remains a core competency)

pi
pi

This was meant to go in reply to prowln / anon f further up.

Can’t sleep. 4.30am. This never happens!

DoubleGem
DoubleGem

” . . . a core competency” Ha! I have little Pisces, but delusions galore. Wising up, though. I am drawn to Scorpios. An astrologer looking at synastry said, “You certainly are one to take on challenges.” Mine was a stellium Scorpio with Venus Rx . . . Neptune at 26 degrees Libra, Moon in Leo, 12th house Chiron. I really fell hard. And that was just for kicks – a rebound after 30 years marriage to a man with Sun/Moon/Mercury 1st house Scorpio with Moon/Chiron conjunct in the 11th house. Lots of love, beauty, woundedness. It’s a journey. So… Read more »

Pi
Pi

wow, all those scorps do sound like complex creatures, double gem. but yes. it’s no fun to keep stepping under the love bus. we should always check the route number first?! xo

DoubleGem
DoubleGem

Yes, Pi! I later wished that I had written . . . no need to hop on the same bus with slightly different route numbers, despite the new improved resolved features. Yet some rather evident deal breakers . . . including not enough time since your marriage ended! Poor him, as well. You know, I must wonder if I ever was with anyone other than a Scorp . . . I knew next to nothing about astro when in my 20’s. Does this knowledge really help? Or is it that you just see more clearly the troubling dynamics as you… Read more »

Serenity
Serenity

MM, I love love that picture! Says so much. I feel like her. I’ve been a hermit almost all my life, it’s a tendency, a pull towards solitude in order to remain centered, happy and efficient. It also assists in remaining neutral around sh*t disturbers. Doesn’t do well for intimate relationships. I’m excited for this zap zone. No holds barred. I’m in the octagon by myself fighting my own demons I’ve nursed Begone!! I’m not fighting others as they are only reflections of my inner world. I’ve seriously recognized that this month. I made the serious intention to be responsible… Read more »

Star inspired
Star inspired

Gosh ‘Serenity’ I have Pluto transiting 12th too & have come to exactly the same realizations over the last month… thru very similar circumstances. Has been a huge realisation for me… that as soon as we go into fear &/or anger etc, our hearts close down… & so do our glimmering paths & options. Arrgghhh, so painful. And while we’re pointing the finger & cursing ‘you A-hole’ under our breath, we are the ones limiting us & our paths, thru that heart space shut down. My guidance came thru, once I’d figured out the dynamic: “Yes it’s over. If u… Read more »

Star inspired
Star inspired

Oops ‘transitting’, although transmitting is probably just as apt.

Btw Serenity… What degree is your Asc? Wondering when Pluto finally moves out of 12th for you?…
Mine is 18.56 Cap. Another 3 or so years, but it’s no longer feeling like a life sentence since this realization has seeded itself. In fact it has become wonderful.

serenity
serenity

Thank you for the inspiration Star Inspired. I’m at 17 cap asc. It’s helpful to hear what positive lesson you’ve derived out of pluto transiting 12th house. That same lesson I’ve gone over and over for 30 years, set it free, if it’s meant to be with you, it will come back; forgive ourselves. Having been raised with very critical, cold and judgmental parents, does not help my saturn in 1st, also when i was younger raised by the most loving grandparents ever (jupiter in 1st also). I really feel that life are these concentric circles, and at this phase… Read more »

Star inspired
Star inspired

Oh wow, Pluto moves out of your 12th much sooner then. Congrats! I have a friend who had Pluto conj her Asc earlier this year & the difference in her life now is incredible. Yes, I’m feeling the same “life is these concentric circles… lessons are learned faster”. I’ve been experiencing this too. Also thinking alot of the astro dynamics, likening it to fractals. ie: the astro terrain is the same, same opportunity to learn same lessons over & over in different guises. I have a great chart for ‘intensified learning experiences’. My Sun, Merc & Venus are all in… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

Hi Serenity, I’m a 3° Cap Asc. Pluto has left my 12th . Yaaaaay 😀 It’s been a long dark road. I too withdrew for a while during that transit. Much soul searching. Mystic did my chart back in 2008 when Pluto entered Cap. She said that with Pluto on Asc transit I’ll become the person I was meant to be. Damn true! Finally on the right path (see my comment on Emerging Astro) but there was a few failed attempts along the way which led me to where I am today. Thank goodness for the failures! Venus is currently… Read more »

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

Well, I gulped at the “people return” bit, especially when I consider some of the unsavory asswipes Plutogirl and I have worked so hard to vanquish these last couple years. About the pass-agg bit – I was thinking, if it weren’t for pass-agg to fall back on, I’d have ruined everything and might be in prison or dead by now, so I see it like some form of medication that is better than nothing, you just don’t want to get addicted to it. If it can be delivered with enough charm, it’s quite tolerable, and without it, there’d be no… Read more »

curiouser and curiouser crab
curiouser and curiouser crab

Plutoboy, love your last para, can relate to it, except of course for being a mighty Plutoboy 🙂
, which i am not, more a curious crab type. but it does so feel like a shifting to ‘stark, clean and alone in a beautiful way’. and for this multi canerian, it feels so liberating and real but oh so new. totally out of comfort zone.

curiouser and curiouser crab
curiouser and curiouser crab

and yes, huge gratitude.

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

Yeah, it’s huge, fierce, unrelenting Grace, isn’t it?

zenduende
zenduende

“no Downton Abbey” hahahaha, that’s why I can’t tolerate watching it, cannot stand pass-agg behaviour *but* as a natal Mars in Aries (yep) I now understand my mission, Mystic, in these challenging Mars-in-Libra times.

To turn the art of pass-agg into zen magic. Lucky my new mantra = if it doesn’t challenge you, it doesn’t change you

<3 the vanquishing PB, so much more my style, too : ) Luck to you & PG

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

Nice, my Mars-y brother, thanks for the support. I don’t actually watch that show either, though I love the grandeur of it. Mars in Scorp here.
I love vanquishing, but it takes a toll. It will be nice when it is less necessary (if ever).

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

My apologies, Zenduende – for some reason the Mars in Aries thing just said “man-person”, and I never even considered it.
What’s another little bit of public humiliation these days, anyway…………………..

akapluto
akapluto

This plutonian loves it, too! THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE

Kat
Kat

Transparency, mindfulness and diplomacy transform pass/agg into an art from a low qi weapon…

Starinspired
Starinspired

Ooh, crikey… That’s ALOT of inappropriately placed question marks!
Please disregard : )

echo
echo

no!!!!! i loved your post 😉

Star inspired
Star inspired

Haha! Shucks echo, thanks : )

davidl
davidl

Well you’ve given us something to mull over this weekend .. Even a triple gem would need at least the weekend to deal with that lot. I’m giving the big tick to all of these transits. What else can you do ? My focus ? Nowhere. My strategy ? Surrender. The universe and it’s composition will one day be known through scientific scrutiny. Our existence in this universe though, is scientifically close to impossible and statistically, extremely improbable, no scientist will ever be able to explain it. Dark matter annihilation due to galactic offsets is an interesting but ultimately dry… Read more »

davidl
davidl

Thank you, so strong and beautiful.

Star inspired
Star inspired

Awesome illo!… Just Divine???? Re: * I know i always express disdain for Pass-Agg but i am thinking that, with Mars in Libra until late July, it could actually be a lost Martial Art that we reclaim and make over into something Zen. OMG, This is so totally happening for me! It’s like a particularly profound episode of Monkey Magic or something… & it’s just sort of happening, naturally. Those instances that used to turn me into a seething volcano of molten lava crazy, now have me gliding thru in full sagacious Zen Grace mode & with complete acceptance/non attachment.… Read more »

MiloBloom
MiloBloom

I’m also a multiple Libran (and Mars-ruled!) and you just summed up perfectly how this Mars transit is going for me! Things that would usually annoy me seem trivial now. Easier to keep perspective and shrug at life’s ordinary inconveniences. 0°Libra Sun.

Star inspired
Star inspired

F…ing Fabulous isn’t it MiloBloom!!?…
& Oh so effortless.
Loving it.
So pleased to hear you’re feeling it too. Was starting to wonder if I’d tripped the light fantastic into another dimension (which of course it seems ‘we’ kinda have).

Hathors Horns
Hathors Horns

This is very apt! The zen warrior. Yoga poses warrior one and two have been very empowering amidst all the agro crap out there! My Aries bass player and I are locking horns over an incident at our show last night where I thought he was being a douche. I hope we come good but his pride may be a problem. Wish me luck with finding the zen here!!

Elodie
Elodie

Such a beautiful image!

ms.vervain
ms.vervain

* I know i always express disdain for Pass-Agg but i am thinking that, with Mars in Libra until late July, it could actually be a lost Martial Art that we reclaim and make over into something Zen.

???????????????????

I’m having trouble visualizing how pass-agg could *possibly* be made over into something of actual benefit to ANYONE.

‘splain, pretty please?

davidl
davidl

You just gave us a perfect example ? Non ?

Plutoboy
Plutoboy

I don’t see any pass-agg in there, David, just a request for clarity with a cute upturn…….
Real P-A always registers in my solar plexus, otherwise I can’t be bothered. There needs to be some agg in there, just plain ole pass is different.

davidl
davidl

I meant it as a compliment actually. I found it a perfect example of not agreeing, with multiple ?????? , capital letters etc …while ending with a rhetorical question. Ms Vervain would make an excellent lawyer.

ms.vervain
ms.vervain

…….. that was curiosity, davidl. not disagreement.
My question was not rhetorical, as you assume. Is this my 8th house Mercury/ Uranus conjunction playing up? Yikes.
Mars is nearly exact my natal Pluto (conjunct Sun, 7th house), maybe this has turned me into a comments-thread black hole?
I’m really quite nice, once you get past my extreme clutter-clearing tendencies, and Aqua rising persona……………………..

Mitra
Mitra

I find the last line to be a little passive-agressive, but on the whole find it to be just aggressive and quite condescending. But perhaps there are different understandings of the term. My concern with passive-agressive behaviour, as I understand it, is that it is aggressive and hidden, causing the recipient to self-doubt and if repeated, feel abused and responsible for the aggressor’s discontent. But if in response to someone else’s aggression or condescending words, Mars in Libra is supporting me to respond with a bit of charm as show that I am not affected by their opinion of me,… Read more »

ms.vervain
ms.vervain

Well!! My goodness. Sometimes the twists of communication via words and internet are quite astounding. 1. I ADORE MM, find her style and wisdom to be endlessly inspiring and informative, love her snappy delivery and humor. 2. I’ve been looking at the concept of pass-agg for the past several months, both in myself and others. It’s been a focus for me, as I’ve come to understand there really is nothing to be gained by playing the victim. Dead end…… certainly if I’m the one generating pass-agg, and maybe worse if it’s someone else – how do you resolve an issue… Read more »

Mitra
Mitra

The last and larger part of what i wrote was not a comment on you.

Still, it seems I would have been kinder not to have commented on your behaviour.

Sorry for hurting your feelings.

ms.vervain
ms.vervain

Hi Mitra…….. not sure what you mean.
Mine was a general reply to the seeming confusion over a simple question, I probably shouldn’t have posted under your reply – sorry about that.

Anon
Anon

Don’t see any pass-agg in Ms Vervain’s comment either.
You’re just agg David!

davidl
davidl

Then you have no idea what pass agg is ? Your entry for example is not pass agg, it falls into another category.
Anonymous sniping of the lowest order.

Get fuqed you bottom feeder. Learn to own your remarks or forever live in the world of one dimension , loser.

(Oh well, there goes my mars in libra resolution. That lasted what , 5 days ? We have months ? Doh. )

pi
pi

I think the embers are finally out with the Multi-scorp. A bit relieved. It does me no good to experience flames with someone already seemingly happily taken. Been a conscious effort past 12 months to not indulge in energy-thieving fantasy, instead replace with reality checks. Got the clarity now, not words but I knew I felt differently. Or at least had come to terms with no frisson allowed. Now feeling a bit sad tho. Not even any imaginary lovers to toy with. Blah, meh. Shrug. Yours in a rather boring negative fashion, but with one eyebrow raised and maybe a… Read more »

pi
pi

Ogod see what I mean? Those icon things are hideous. This is the price I pay for slack typing.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Never mind Pi …. changes and letting go of stuff always involve a grief process – even if the changes are good ones. I’m a bit meh myself regarding the romantic stuff. Breaking up with the Cap was the right thing to do, but realising behind it was a romantic delusion that had been running for near on a year hasn’t been exactly cheery news. But oh well ….

anon flax
anon flax

hopefully i can word this so it doesn’t sound offensive but don’t you think romance is pretty delusional in and of itself? As in romantic love isn’t the kind that goes on in perpetuity? It’s that phase right at the start and then it evolves and then the romance becomes a part of a larger thing? Part of something that’s quite different but romance is an integral part of. I don’t even know if that makes sense. But do you know what i mean? Romance is the catalyst and then like the jung quote above it becomes something else? You… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Yeah I get what you mean and I agree … perhaps what I was really trying to say was that I had been “hiding” in romantic delusion for near on a year … that it had become a happy place for me that had nothing to do with genuinely wanting a real relationship. It’s that realisation that’s a bit meh … and also that it’s no longer my happy place. The bubble has burst. I’ve seen through the behaviour … it’s an empty feeling for awhile, letting go of these odd little coping mechanisms we all latch onto.

anon flax
anon flax

ah I see – the meh of self delusion I am intimately familiar with. I have an empty fish bowl that I keep to remind myself that if a situation is totally shit a water feature isn’t gonna fix it. But owning it (the sitch not the fish bowl) will.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I fuqing love this!

anon fox
anon fox

I suspect you and I are similar myers briggs types 😉

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

INTJ freak here…

anon flax
anon flax

INTP or INFP depending on when the last extended holiday was.

DoubleGem
DoubleGem

INTJ or INTP depending on the day

anon flax
anon flax

😀 intp rears its head when i get INFP – flawed system it thinks what do you think that’s about? the swinging letter?

DoubleGem
DoubleGem

Well, we are in an extended holiday period! How’s it going. Alos, the ‘swinging letter?! For me that P/J might be whether the situation calls for Spock or the Mary figure?
Whew. Either can be summoned at will 🙂

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

It’s not just a letter. The MBTI has to be explored in pairs. An obvious difference between INTP and INFP is TP enjoys ritual and doing things tha exact same all the time. It gives the INTP comfort to say drive home the same route every day. It gives the INFP shits.

curiouser and curiouser crab
curiouser and curiouser crab

Prowln, so get what you’re saying. ditto here. was so good to read that in black and white. and yes, it is an empty place for awhile, letting go of those habitual coping mechanisms. they become so familiar, a comfort zone of thinking/feeling. . gotta push through them when we identify them. thanks for your post.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

A fantasy projected. Unreal emotion yet highly addictive like a drug. I agree.

anon flax
anon flax

it is a drug i think – it hits the same pleasure centres in the brain or something. not sure vague has me in its grip. haha actually it might be a surge of love that has me…

akapluto
akapluto

“love is whats left after being in love burns away” -i forgot who said this

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

I’m all for turning passive-aggressiveness into an art. I think it’s totally underrated.

R
R

Haha, me too, in fact, I like to refer to it as ‘Non violent protest’, or a’ peaceful demonstration’.