History Crush Harry Houdini’s Mars Saturn Square

Harry Houdini chained up

The escape artist Harry Houdini was a multiple conjunct Aries. So, btw, is his contemporary daredevil counterpart, Felix Baumgartner.  Houdini was a huge celebrity, enjoying Kardashian levels of fame in a world without social media nor television. But he was a classic Mars Saturn square person.

The definition of that aspect, from my Astral DNA report:

No matter how goo-goo the Ascendant or empathetic this person’s Moon sign, the Mars-square-Saturn character can default into being tyrannical. Or, okay, merely demanding and with a hint of authoritarian. Mars square Saturn can indicate early clashes with authority/a bad dad figure or just a super-strong internal success driver, complete with carping inner critic. It’s productive though. Rich Roll – whose journey from being an alcoholic couch slug in his 40s to being super fit is chronicled in Finding Ultra – has Mars square Saturn.  So does Tavi Gevinson – renowned for beginning a stellar media career aged 11.

Houdini was also an avid showman, artist, and magician. His name became synonymous with the escaping of constricting circumstances.

He had the essential masculine quality of courage to a supreme degree. Nobody has ever done and nobody in all human probability will ever do such reckless feats of daring. His whole life was one long succession of them.

 

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, in The Strand Magazine (August 1927)

He got his flying license shortly after the airplane was invented. He was perpetually striving to improve. Mars Saturn Square people are never satisfied. It is the root cause of their agitation and success. “I always have on my mind that thought that next year I must do something greater, more wonderful.”

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sweetpea

Mill and Andy both brill (Mystic’s word 😉 )

Love the flip flops hiking in the desert Andy and going out the window Mill.

🙂

Andromeda

I just realised I have Mars square Saturn too!

Used love hopping over complex rocky scenery like a goat.

Wore flip flops hiking in the desert, while the other tourists stumbled about in hiking boots. It’s like they didn’t know how to even walk.

Upset boyfriends by beating them at Daytona Car Racing etc. as a teen.

milleunanotte

A semi square Mars Saturn. I always thought it was the Sag Asc or Moon that made me need to get out suddenly. I have also simply found a window and climbed out. It was urgent but my friends laughed about it when they found out and asked why i didn’t use the door. But it would have wasted time with goodbyes, and i just had to suddenly retain myself, recollect myself to myself, without explanation. I’m feeling a bit like this now but it’s too early and i’ll have wasted what i’ve spent time building up if i leave… Read more »

pegasus

Wouldn’t mind some Aries chutzpah! To focus some of the massive Sagg energy. Always feel a kinship to the others fire signs.
The breath retention ability of Houdini was spectacularly impressive.

Baristagem

Omg! I think I have Mars-Saturn square.

Now you see me … and now you don’t 😯

*runs outside and up around the corner*

Oh wait … it’s conjunct. I have Mars-Saturn conjunct.

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

What an amazing man. Great name too (probably invented).

Veronica

What about Aries with mars opposite Saturn?
Actually mars pluto uranus opposite Saturn, and Chiron…

Have had a few distinct medical escapes, and escaped a lot of boring jobs, and other people’s drama. I really need to have a quiet, but viable option to escape any restricting situation, even if I don’t choose to use it.

Andromeda

He’s like a woolly haired superhero!
Serious bouffant action – love it.

He had Scorp Luna (like so many here!) and
I suppose a Scorpio moon is considered a martial moon too,
or was in his day.

Double Happiness

Yes! Moon in Scopio here! I once saw a really cool pulp fiction novel in an op shop called “Moon in Scopio” was really drawn to it but for some reason did not buy it…..still kicking myself – this is long berore I new I had this too!

Andromeda
JabFab

I’m all over the escapologist thighs!

Ms.

Awesome. I love houdini! I followed his er, career, as a child and was very fascinated by his escapism. I have a massive thing for sideshow of that era.

My nickname as a child was houdini cause I would always escape out of everything my mother put me in.

So the square is good for giant feats yes?
I like it when you do posts on how squares and oppositions drive people, one of the early things in astroland is people thinking their charts are “bad” because they have this or that. But how great was houdini? 🙂

sweetpea

Hey Ms, how goes it doll?

Hey, howabout Steve McQueen…03/24/1930…3 degrees Aries….

He’s like “fuq” as he contemplates the fence..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ccVu992CYE

He’s got Mars in Pisces sextile Cap Saturn…~and~… Uranus in Aries 10 deg square Cap Saturn 11 degrees.

He was fuqin’ zappin’ dontcha think?

sweetpea

Craze that he and Ali MacGraw both Aries and had huge love affair…

The movie “Love Story” with her and Ryan O’Neal…he is Toro at 0 degrees Sun..

He barely made it out alive… :mrgreen:

~Kept coming up with love but it’s so slashed and torn~

Under Pressure…David Bowie/Queen

sweetpea

Meaning Ryan barely made being a Toro instead of an Aries…lol

sweetpea

~okay~ (they sing in the song..sounding resolved to the issue at hand 😉 )

Video is actually quite poignant to our times as well.

Myst, please forgive my indulgence. It was just a square after all… x

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

Steve McQueen=AMAZING

pegasus

and an incorrigible bastard….. abusive according to the beautiful Ali.

sweetpea

Or Magnificent…Like the Magnificent Seven movie…not that I can remember a dang thing from the movie or even if I watched it :mrgreen:

But he’s Aries so we’ll give him that…Meanwhile, as far as what Pegs said…..

sweetpea

My comment was for Lux…

But yeah, if he were like that Pegs then oh hell no. Ali’s bday same as mine. Don’t know her astro particulars but he would last, oh, maybe 30 seconds with me if he gonna pull that shizz..

But that Uranus and Saturn square must have been hell for both I reckon. I have that by transit right now but I actually feel like I’ve come out on the bright side of a very long slog… x

Ms.

I love that you know these things 🙂

I’ve got less fun mars squares but the give you balls, for sure x

Universali

Mars-Saturn square= literally fighting to get out of confines?!

Universali

Hey guys, I’m a long time MM fan but rarely post.
I just had a huge warm fuzzy feeling reading through some comments and thought WOW!
Lovely Mystic, you have actually created a beautiful community here and I think we all need a little champagne/carrot juice or whatev your poison toast to you!
You tolerate an amazing amount of emotional schizz to fly by here and I think it’s really terrific seeing the lovely support network that stems from your branches xx

pegasus

Interestingly enough, just today was thinking what a special space has evolved here with Myst over the last 8 years, the next thought was to make it subscriber entry but that would not encourage others
to explore, ask questions, roll around stuff with ‘us’, yes ‘us’ is a bright community with much to give.
Grace.x

Aquariarse

What excellent escapologist thighs he has!

Andromeda

😀

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

🙂

pegasus

Thighs like that i call PILLARS to a temple.
***** a thigh sigh******.

S

Mars square Saturn here, and I am afraid to know what this means. Always like to know where the exit is and I have jumped out of a few windows in my time.

S

Thanks MM. Nothing wrong with an escape hatch and secret door.

Mitra

What happens if you have Mars cojunct Saturn? Um, hoping its not like when you chain yourself up like this and not try and get out 🙂
Maybe more favourable, mars- like self-discipline?

Andromeda

My son has Mars-Saturn conj. in Virgo, I so hope you are right.
Get told off for not changing the cutlery with each dish.

Andromeda

Perhaps that makes more sense if I mention he is 5.

Mitra

He sounds very sweet 🙂 I hope when he is older he can do the washing up though.

Mine is in Aries. I wonder if it’s a bit like having a ferrari and putting in diesel in it.

anon

I know a Mars conjunct Saturn in Gemini guy. He is a librarian, so, see, it’s not bad. It’s about bringing order in one’s work and vitality.

Andro

Ha ha, thanks anon. Another possible line of thought occurred when the 5 year old just explained to me that his Poo doesn’t stink. 😀

DoubleGem

I wish I had known this stuff when I was 5! Although I might have just hid in the closet. All three! rather bizarre, that you know this stuff, even. Were we college friends?

Double Gem

S, have you literally jumped, or figuratively?

Mars [Aquarius] square Saturn [retrograde in Scorpio, oh joy] here, too. It’s been a hell of a ride at times and, hell yes, I’ve jumped a time or two. Figuratively, so far 🙂

S

Literally. Remove the fly screen and pounce out the window.

DoubleGem

O.K., proceeding to pounce. 🙂

S

Pounce it’s the only way to travel DG. 🙂

Scorpbot

LOL. I was expected to stay at home until I got married. Fuq that I thought. So I escaped while both parents were at work. Home was like a prison – very Saturnine Virgo father.
Natal mars opposite Saturn? Natal Mars in Virgo – so i planned my escape.

I have natal Uranus square Saggo moon too. So if anyone dares to restrict my freedom i’m outta there!!!

Scorpbot

I have Mars opposite Saturn – how does that differ from a square?

Double Happiness

Cool! And HOT! Thx M I have been a bit in love with Harry since reading the excellent book “Ragtime” even Had THE P G Morgan ( is it? the banking mogul of the Edwardian era) in it with Egyptian passlife obsession

Double Happiness

So the mother thing, do you think all this Aries can make someone love their mums heaps?

Aquasunbird

Oh I have a charismatic sibling born on the same day and the life theme has been ongoing escape artistry of the daring kind…Yet the danger aspect of it is certainly wearying, gives little security or stability which is a predictable outcome… appearing in a flash, plenty of mystery as to when there will be a re-appearance too!

Aquasunbird

Should mention its a saturn mars opposition….

fallen angel

God, I adore Tesla.. except for his whole schtick about celibacy. So not down with that.

Miss E

Awesome photo!

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