Astrology And Weight Loss: Is Jupiter Fat & Saturn Thin?

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Astrology and Weight Loss is a touchy topic. People occasionally email, asking for a ‘friend’, if there are some Ascendant signs that run more to a larger frame. Or, a perennial fave, the best astrological transit to begin a slenderizing regime.  Of course, not everyone is weight or size conscious. Beauty and health can be present in a variety of shapes and dimensions. But this post is not about that the socio-cultural aspect of people’s physiques or fat as a feminist issue.

And there is relevant astrological info.

Saturn Transits – especially to the Ascendant – seem to make one thinner or at least fitter and more strong.  All that discipline, obsession, quantified self-analysis and being in too foul a mood to party = a chic physique. It is the reward of Saturn. But still, you scowl.  Or if you smile it’s at your spreadsheets or when you wake up in the morning, solo, clean and already excited about the tasks that lie ahead of you.  Saturn Transits can be self-critical or, ideally, an opportunity to assess situations with rational objectivity.

Jupiter Transits are when you’re happy as hell but wake up one morning unable to fit into your clothes

Jupiter transits feel a whole lot more fun but you get a kind of reverse body dysmorphia. You think you’re super-hot all the time & life can revolve around sensual pleasures, croissants, camaraderie, gourmet everything, and non-stop expansion. Your world grows wider and so does your waistline. You can be too busy making money and love to give a fuq about the sort of kilojoule/ macronutrient consciousness that fires truly rad results. Jupiter doesn’t measure, Jupiter does not judge.  Jupiter Transits are when you’re happy as hell but wake up one morning unable to fit into your clothes. But hey so what, you go out and get new ones, upsizing, on credit.

Picture the contrast between the two. Saturn, hydro-flossed and content in an organic hemp t-shirt early to bed at night reads Wheat Belly, Your Food Is Plotting To Murder You, Processed Food Is The Devil or another dystopian diet book in bed before going to sleep at the prompt of his fitness tracker.  If not out carousing, Jupiter stays up late reading A Dance With Dragons, slurping Blue Devil Hoochie Juice and gnawing on a baguette with some butter. When on a health kick, Jupiter might sprinkle some Turmeric around.

Saturn Transits Lean Everything Out

If Saturn is up all night, he’s popping anti-inflams and Modafinil, hissing “sleep is for slackers” as their mental mantra?

So, some Astrology and Weight Loss basics?

If weight loss is your goal, clock your next Saturn Transit. If you’re looking for body acceptance, wait for an upcoming Jupiter Transit.

If you want to start what they used to call a “reducing regime”, start with a Dark Moon. The idea is that you whittle away your waist as the Moon likewise wanes.

And, this is not scientific by any means but the Fixed Sign Ascendants seem to trend toward the larger frame. Water Ascendants hold Water and Taurus Rising suits being fleshier.

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amaranthisme

This actually happened to me last year! in Feb 2016. I lost 12 cm and had to walk. Like HAD TO. I gave up sugar and bread and lost 3 dress sizes in 3 months. amazing.

GM
GM

That’s true. But I would also add nice transits to natal Venus (like Jupiter conjunct Venus) lead to weight gain. When my friend had Saturn Return in Libra, having Saturn in the first house…She lost so much weight without doing diet or exercise. She started looking emanciated and everybody got worried about her health. After two years, she got so thin and many people started gossiping about anorexia. It was a tough time for her. She went to many doctors and couldn’t figure out why she was losing weight. And another friend with Saturn Return on her 7th house started… Read more »

catfish moon
catfish moon

When Jupiter transited my 10th house last year I gained 20 pounds 🙁 I weigh 15 pounds more than normal.

calypso
calypso

Saturn may be in Scorpio but I am making a void dark moon in Carb, I mean Crab, supper and I am going to eat it in the bath.

S
S

That is so practical, steamy and with a touch of the Bugs Bunny about it (with him simmering in a pot thinking it’s a bath).
Wishing you a whole lot of tub time CS.

calypso
calypso

haha! love the BB ref…. thanks S xx

dia.astro
dia.astro

Total opposite! When Jupiter was on my AC earlier this year I had a million things to do every day. Not in an overloaded busy way but more like GIVE ME ALL THE LIFE, MUST LIVE LIFE, ALL OF IT. And when Saturn squared my ascendant (which was the beginning of my saturn return actually) I got pregnant lol.

maru67
maru67

Hmmm, well, I’ve lost fifteen lbs since Saturn went direct, which is atm eight degrees from my exact asc. I am working on recomp, but not necessarily trying to lose weight.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

On inducing endorphins without exercise, sex, or rollercoaster riding: Sniff vanilla & lavender. Eat a bit of ginseng, dark chocolate, something spicy. Listen to (or play) music that you love. LOL. Spend quality time with an animal friend. That’s what I’ve gathered so far. I’m thinking of making a little stash of these things for myself to have on-hand during my recovery; would make a great gift for a laid up friend, too. Essential oils, tea & food; a new CD; a hilarious DVD… not a(nother) new pet, but maybe a sweet pic of one to hang… Maybe I’ll paint… Read more »

S
S

I had to drop some lavender oil on my in-car vanilla stink-O-rama tree. It’s that vanilla smell you put in the fridge to kill odors, an olfactory offender to be sure.
So beats a sandalwood incense stick burning on the dash of the Kingswood.
Goddess speed your recovery Scorp Inc. Your recovery care package, needs some homemade lavender chocolates.

April
April

YES. SATURN IS DOING SOMETHING WITH MY SCORPIO RISING AND NOW I AM RUNNING THE NYC MARATHON.

Erin
Erin

I could not disagree with this more. I am finally starting to exercise, having found fluid feminine movement and pole dancing classes and truly enjoying my body. That fuqing libra saturn on my moon saturn and pluto was so shit that i I spent 3 years so far from my body, failing at life, that I couldn’t poss be fit or happy or rich or disciplined.

katya
katya

I only exercise for purposes other than exercise. Getting from A to G, for example, or moving something heavy across the yard. My Saturn conjunct my ascendant (Gemini) is opposite Jupiter conjunct my sun (Sag). Possible they’re just cancelling each other out?

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I haven’t really noticed what transits get me fit, but I’ve definitely blobbed out the last two times Jupiter transited my Asc.

I am currently on a sleep hygiene jag (well, I’m trying) and I’m back to my regular fitness freak self, so hopefully having my arse hanging half way down the back of my legs is only temporary…

pegasus
pegasus

Alien then could i suggest Twerking for thine ass, one cheek at a time 🙂
Or sit in comfortable lotus and roll from side to side, tones butt w/o moving much. Can do in front of TV.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I’d probably just end up like a friend of mine who decided she was old, after twerking in the privacy of her own home resulted in her cleaning masses of cat fur out from under the sofa…

Will try rock and rolling in the lotus position though!

pegasus
pegasus

Saturn is my chart ruler with a jupiter-sun conjunction,obviously they keep each other in check as have never gained or lost more than 3 kilos each way in 45 years. Saturn certainly watched over my childhood with ballet 6 hours a week from aged 5-15!. Very few ‘overweight’ children in the 50’s, who’s parents or grandparents lived thro’ a true recession. Lots of organ meat in diet then as cheap & vegs were mostly root, and greens were cabbage & lettuce mostly. My diet was a mix of macro/vegan-no meat for many in the 70’s. Macro was ultra trendy, till… Read more »

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

that is so wise…works like a charm… whatever fits in both of your hands cupped without overflowing crazily is one meal portion for you. if you have big hands you get to eat more.
Sadly i have tiny hands. i still wear childrens gloves.

pegasus
pegasus

Finger food?
Fingerless gloves are my solution 🙂
Give someone the finger and they don’t even notice?

leo-scorp grrrl
leo-scorp grrrl

You described it – Scorpio Rising. Saturn all the way. Busy – bedtime- to work early- more food intolerances make cheating and naf snacks off limits. Not officailly paleo but grains and me dont mix well. I now consume green drinks. Growing by leaps and bounds professionally and even in healthy realtionship (so I think at this moment- lol!) No crazy sex based sex. More relationshp based, sweet, energizing sex, if that makes sense.

ScorpintheSky
ScorpintheSky

Good luck EEL. I think the best way to do it is just to go with whatever makes you feel good long term. And I have this idea that we are mostly the blood type we are, but also a little of the other parent’s blood type. So maybe your other parent was an O or B, and you need some protein to keep the body chemistry balanced.

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

good theory except they are both Type As. 🙁 i want to believe in blood type diet but it just doesnt fit me. It worked great for another Type A gal who claimed it put her cancer in remission.

ScorpintheSky
ScorpintheSky

Maybe go with the body-hacking suggestion? Sounds like you have it figured out anyway 🙂 Good for you.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

I’ve lost 30lbs since Saturn into Scorp. No exercise, just went paleo. I literally cannot exercise. Would if I could! Hoping my surgery next month will be the beginning of regaining my mobility. Like a Saturn Return, though, it’s going to get a bit worse before it starts getting any better! Bottoms up…

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Anybody heard of this notion of eating according to your blood type? I just did today & it sounds like it could be a thing. Eg, I’m a type O & supposedly Os are well-suited to paleo; other types, not so much. I haven’t been super strict about it & weight loss has been slow, but I didn’t go into it to lose weight: I just wanted my body to work more efficiently (thank you, Saturn) & feel better in general. Paleo’s been all that to me & more– i’m even cognitively faster for it! So yeah, the blood type… Read more »

ScorpintheSky
ScorpintheSky

I’m O type and that certainly works for me. No wheat or dairy, everything super low GI and lots of lean protein. I stay away from how much grains and legumes they recommend, in the book I have anyway. Just gives me fuzz brain. Make sure you add good fats to every meal you can. Fats are satiating and give stuff good taste. And make sure you eat some carbs, just ALWAYS combine with protein so it doesn’t mess up your insulin. That’s what has worked for me anyway. (Easier said than done though of course 😉

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

that makes sense for paleo cos i did poorly and im an A bloodtype. however when i did the A blood type diet that also went poorly. 🙁 i was vegetarian for 15 yrs.(5 of those yrs vegan) .worst decision of my life for me…glad its working out for others….

what i am finding is i still need to eat smaller animal meat like birds and fish, organic organ meats, fermented foods….no dairy…limit sugar.

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid

I’ve found a massive amount of overlap between Blood-type diets and Ayurveda. I think the simple answer is that we are all different, and that even a clean Paleo diet is not always best fro everyone. Some people do really well on raw vegan; some people it makes them horribly ill. Same for LCHF, high protein, low fat etc. Mark Sisson does a diary where he basically encourages you to experiment on yourself 😀 Most of us do better without refined, processed food in our diets on a daily basis; but beyond that, what works for you may make someone… Read more »

Pi
Pi

4kg in 5 days, that sounds more like fluids, DT? that’s about the extent of my “expertise” btw 😉 x

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid

Yeah – hypothyroidism used to be called Myxoedema back in the days when it was diagnosed by clinical symptoms.

I am a watery thing !! The most I have every lost was close to 9 kilos in just under a fortnight. I go up and down like the tides…. and its all water for about the first 20 or so kilos !! You can sink a finger up to a knuckle in my feet at the end of the day… and this is ON medication !!

So yeah, its all fluids. I’m all fluids 😀 I am a watery thing….

freedom ala air
freedom ala air

Great statement by Naomi

Aquasunbird
Aquasunbird

There are no scales in our house…Scales are bad news, I suspect. As before mentioned overactive thyroid issues here…Translates to bad burn out on occasions…At least its not like it used to be (winding up in hospital cup eve to be pumped with four bags of saline…) Moderation means I can no longer wear size 27 jeans…but I now can have breasts…Instead. It used to be a packet of cigarettes a day, a few double strength coffees, minimal food, because too busy being just busy…Quit that many years ago. The acupuncturist I saw at 42 told me I was running… Read more »

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid

Hmmm…”We have the necessary misery we are given, so we play the cards we are dealt with in the best possible way…” Am reading “Radical Acceptance” by Tara Brach at the moment… She quotes Rumi “Don’t turn away. Keep your gaze on the bandaged place. That’s where the light enters you.” I know that my chronic illness has made me far more compassionate and sensitive to other people’s needs. It has also made me the go-to person among my family and friends when they have a medical or food issue they want to discuss. The strange thing is, my bloods… Read more »

Virgo Ellie1
Virgo Ellie1

I need to look at my chart to analyze this but I think this what I will find. Jupiter is Fat and Saturn is skinny. If Jupiter is running a muck since July then there is proof that it is fat. I have been sluggish, eating whatever and no energy. But when Saturn was flying around I was losing weight, some experience go into the routine. So Saturn is skinny.

Will report back later. Such a fun way to learn about astrology!!

xo!!

Amy
Amy

I have saturn conjunct ASC in Libra , when my Saturn return hit, people worried about my weight loss

VenusRules
VenusRules

Not losing weight with Saturn on my Sun — exercising, hydro-flossing like crazy, but gaining weight. Last night realized I feel completely out of balance. Two years ago I lost about 15 lbs, felt amazing, and now it’s creeping back and all I want to eat is ice cream. I am thinking about letting the gray hair grow out – very Saturnian, yes? And I do feel a bit haggard and drawn, although a year ago I looked fantastic. By the time Saturn is done with my Scorpio stellium I’m afraid I’m going to look a decade older than when… Read more »

VenusRules
VenusRules

Perhaps I overstated or you misunderstood. I don’t think I mentioned binge eating, just having mild post-menopausal and unemployment-fueled and Saturn-transiting-6th-house-fueled slight weight gain. Still under 125 pounds so no, I’m not in the market for advice about protein powder and sugar substitutes full of GMOs and chemicals. I’ve been in the natural foods industry for 20 years and wrote a book on organic foods before it was trendy, and you can’t turn a corner where I live without running into some kind of natural healer or nutritional therapist, so I’m good with knowing what to eat. My diet is… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Far out: transiting Saturn is in your 6th house? Transiting Mars just entered mine! Transiting Saturn is upon my natal Mars, 8th house. 6th house Scorp has got to be real as.

calypso
calypso

hey Scorp, what do you mean when you say “6th house Scorp has got to be real as”? Just askin’ cause I have Saturn transiting my Scorp 6th house too….

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

You too?! I’ve never thought much about the 6th house until now, until my physical health became compromised & inevitably put the squeeze on my daily life/routines. It’s so interconnected, health & everything else. Considering the intense transformative power that is Scorp, I would so welcome such a placement as 6th house Scorp; transiting Saturn there must be this complete clearing of the useless & harmful, & restructuring toward total health/vitality/efficiency in all things daily! Or so I imagine. Haha Saturn in Scorp is full on! No stone is left unturned. What an awesome placement, Scorp in the 6th (says… Read more »

calypso
calypso

oh thank you Scorp Inc for your inspirational take 😀 I really am blessed with a strong constitution, always have been. I have been dropping bad habits for a while now….since before Saturn in Scorp interestingly. I will think more on this and will keep you informed if I start to feel reborn!

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

x

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Saturn does favor counting calories. I am so stressed out right now. I have a sales contract on my house and purchase contract on a fixer-upper and am thinking “wtf am I doing this again?” Plus, my new car broke down while driving last night so I got to use free towing but am no-car. Can’t get out to do errands. Total scatter brain. This dark moon SUCKS. Anyway, that’s to say I am glad for the dailies because I know this is a patch where I am going to doubt. Still sucks, but at least I’m doing my astro,… Read more »

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

Awww *pats you* that sucks to be without a car in an area that pretty much demands one. 🙁

and me too. I have a social weekend planned….you know…”getting out there” bullshit…. meeting new people…

and what does the daily say? This weekend isn’t good for love endeavours and crap. >:( I can’t win. When I’m revved to go, the astro is like fuck u.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You’ve got to go with your own rev. I mean – how many times have we missed Venus Claws already?

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

good point. I’ll just go with it and hope it turns out.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Enjoy yourself. And thank you for the pats. 🙂

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

While we are waiting for the monthlies here, penny thorton and tamplin put theirs up already. i don’t know if you read those or not.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

The monthlies are up on thepowerpath.com. The theme for September is “Responsibility.” Good times, lol.

scorpbot
scorpbot

Thanks for the tip on Tamlin. Never heard of him. Mikey Lutin is always brilliant. Great sense of humour!! 🙂
I know of Penny Thornton Have one of her books, and Susan Miller is great too

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

i love Lutin but his page aesthetic annoys me sometimes. i feel like im back in the middle to late 90’s looking at it. Susan Miller used to be my go to person before i found Mystic, Milller used to be crazy accurate for me but things changed about 2 yrs ago…idk what happened…but not as accurate for either asc or sun sign, plus she is always late posting. though i hear she is having hardships lately, bless her heart! Oddly Terry Nazon had been eerily accurate in unexpected ways lately when she never used to be accurate for me.… Read more »

Scorpbot
Scorpbot

hahaha!! Mikey’s website is atrocious!! and so many typos. Drives me mental!

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Hi 12th.. I honestly feel excited about your fixer-upper. What a way to release your frustrations you are dealing with now when you get it. A flower of creativity is blooming into a new home for you.. that is exciting. But until you get there… the weight is heavy. This too shall pass.

I wish you well with the new plans developing..

xo!!

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

Thanks VE! Right now I feel kind of depressed and like nothing is working out. This time of year puts the sun in my 12th house. I kicked off all these plans but I have the stress/nerves of a Virgo, lol! I just want great sex and fantastic hair.

I’m sure it will be great…thanks for the reminder. 🙂

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

no serious weight loss during saturn transit but def felt haggard. no serious weight gain during jupiter transit either. the way i figure it, you get so interested in cutting budget you eat cheaper and crappier food & vitamins. Why use expensive Jarrow vitamins when you can use the Costco ones! You start trying exercise programs that are cheap or free like donation yoga and running at the park instead of what effectively works for you and is fun. no big weight gain after juppie transit for me. When i’m happy i do tend to eat more when i get… Read more »

dreamyj
dreamyj

I feel like Jupiter acts as a weird reversed Saturn for me, but maybe it’s because Pluto has been coming up to my AC for a while. (Since I have a cardinal t-square involving my Sun/Moon, it’s basically been hitting everything at once.) It seems to act as a major trigger for different things. When it crossed my Sun/Moon I had just moved to the city for University, and all the friends I had made over the first 4 months seemed to disappear into thin air for no reason. The day it conjuncted my Sun I had a deeply traumatic… Read more »

Aquasunbird
Aquasunbird

Perpetually underweight as permanent health issue, (overactive thryoid, previous incarnation as non stop workaholic) so irony is that Jupiter is conjunct my ascendant, almost exact…In Virgo However…Have natal mars in opposition to pluto conjunct uranus virgo 1st…You cannot put weight on with ongoing pluto mars drive…Especially when it quincunx the sun in the sixth…Health issues, diet are not a fad here, they are gospel…Non negotiable. When I was breathing and living to work (Neptune in sixth house, last cycle) I simply did not eat because I did not stay still or desk-bound for more than 15min…And I had to wear… Read more »

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid

Dear Godde ! I’ll swap ya ! You sound like a permanently on-fire Pitta. I gots loadsa extra Kapha 😀 ….Hypothyroid, apparently no adrenal issues (but I disagree with the blood test), total inability to lose weight, watery and somniferous. I nanna nap every afternoon. I am happy that I’ve got it down from 3 hours to an hour. I reckon I can take on an Aries/Leo Mars. I have a hypersensitive Aquarius, a mischievous Scorpio and a Taurus so stubborn I have hoof marks on the ceiling. Wanna swap ? Or at least some excess energy… I’ll send you… Read more »

Aquasunbird
Aquasunbird

Thanks and truly beautiful prose but I have retrograde pisces mercury on formalhault sextile moon and jupiter…Big dreams…Sometimes little logic, too much sentiment. I have been well remunerated and exploited for it, headhunted and sacked for it too. Neptune is currently visiting there…Jupiter in opposition to mercury is always too much, opportune, and optimistic… Sounds lovely though…Fantastic you have the inherent ability to be wonderfully immersed. So you have three lovely little people, lucky you. That’s ultimate creativity and dynanism. I have an idea that chaos is a creative test of endurance designed to force out the best or worse… Read more »

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid

It hadn’t occurred to me that they’re all Fixed, but they are ! That explains many things….

My life is not as serene as I would like; I am ACHING for more energy. Just not to have to sleep every afternoon would give me another 14 hours a week in which to get things done so that I don’t have to compress my days into less space….

I envy your pragmatism….!

Charles
Charles

I dunno about Saturn. People can get all sorts of weird ideas, like an All Sorghum Diet, and be determined to make it work, despite evidence to the contrary.

Now Jupiter though.. I recently watched Jupiter zoom through my sign Taurus for a year. I recall one astrologer that told me Jupiter is a big bag of hot air, lots of promises but not necessarily any action, however watch your waistline. Taurus loves food and Jupiter doesn’t help make that any healthier. I wish I had listened, I’m still trying to work off a few pounds.

molly bloom
molly bloom

Saturn has been squaring my ascendent in Leo too from a long time and still is….:(…much frustrating to the point i’m loosing every interest in what i look like…
become so zen-basic in relation to anything i project that i wish i could turn invisible….
strangely enough tonight i dreamt about skirts and under skirts…i was forced to wear something à la Marie Antoinette….!?? …
oh, and i haven’t been cutting my hair from a long time…just the thought of going to a hairdresser is SO scaring….really…they’ve become my nightmare…

rarau
rarau

i dont remember my jupiter transits but i have natal jupiter/mercury conjunct leo asc and although i have read that the jupiter rising “gives” you weight, unlike i am somewhat petit. sure i enjoy good and gourmet food (not fan of junk food) but i never cross the line. perhaps my virgo sun/scorpio moon combo keep the balance
i will keep in mind the saturn transit (is about to square the asc)…

freedom ala air
freedom ala air

ah yeh exactly mm…. so ive had both at the same time, fortunately now jupiter off my sun is giving a bit of room for saturn on ascendant to do its work….

Im training harder than ever before, and am totally saturns girl, sleep, scowl, turning my pain into glory etc

Ive decided to lose weight, in a way ive never decided before, like seriously!

Im so in cohoots with saturn, i have plans for satisfying saturn….

NightRose
NightRose

Jupiter on my Asc and dare I say I have gotten a bit rounder but in a more feminine way – never really have been curvy in the waist/hips/chest ratio way but I feel my body is changing… In my approaching mid-30s….. Resuscitated puberty? And no I haven’t been oversexed in the recent past, as that can affect your body form. Also my feminine maternal instinct seems to have upped in some way… For some reason the idea of being pregnant and captive is appealing for the first time in my life… Curious to experience being conquered and loved by… Read more »

gbs
gbs

When Jupiter crossed my Ascendant last year, I didn’t really gain weight but I was constantly eating out with friends and family, organizing little dinners at my house, cooking complicated meals, etc. With Saturn in full force in my life right now, I’ve lost 10 pounds, drastically reduced my consumption of meat, and am walking more than ever. I do need to use this energy to get into a regular gym regimen. And my next goal is to reduce the amount of sugar I eat (having Taurus Rising ruled by Venus in Libra in the 5th doesn’t exactly help this).… Read more »

Andy
Andy

That’s interesting as when Jupiter crossed my Asc I also started learning more about food & engaging in complex food prep. Lost weight too. Abundance to be sure but very structured.

Congrats on yr Saturn transit going so nicely!

Rhiannon
Rhiannon

I think it´s rather unchic and unsound to equal “thinness” with “health”. Fatphobia is so lowbrow and grudgy.

Andy
Andy

Dunno about chic but when I eat no sugar/grains I lose weight. I eat 6 eggs a day, fry my eggs ‘n’ meat in duck fat or tallow. Fat isn’t the problem? It’s sugar/carb addiction. I begrudge grains tasting so good.
Thinness isn’t health I agree. Low -fat is lowbrow in my fatty world!

freedom ala air
freedom ala air

i agree… though im not losing as much as id like to sugar and grain free… on the road to freedom from sugar though…

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

i did not do well on Paleo and similar diets. Now many experts are backtracking on the weight loss thing for women. Yes they re fairly healthy diets if you are used to a standard american diet. Yes those diets will cause weight loss if you tightly restrict calories or have more than 50lbs to lose. Im in the 20ish pounds to lose category and it just made me gain weight. I have more muscle but no thigh gap and no smaller waist. 🙁

Andromeda
Andromeda

That’s interesting, out of curiosity, did you do fermented stuff, extra digestion help like ox bile etc? I have a feeling my body is breaking this all down due to these extras. I don’t need extra muscle that’s for sure, I hope to avoid this experience.

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

yes. did all of those and it didn’t make any difference for me. my body hates beef and pork.

Andromeda
Andromeda

Fascinating! Yeah, I can’t do pork meat or much beef, I am not eating as much as I did. I was veggie for a long time too, so it is a shock on a few levels. So much to learn about the body, biochem, etc. it’s really amazing, what does your body like eating nowadays?

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

pretty much 80-90% veg..rice…quinoa…amanranth…millet, seafood, birds, smaller animals like rabbits…organic organ meats. for whatever cruel twist of nature organ meats is ok. fermented pickles…kimchi…i have to limit fruit. no corn. no bananas. limit non gmo wheat. no dairy.

it has been well over a decade since my last seizure let me tell you.

Andromeda
Andromeda

That’s awesome! I feel bad eating too much meat, but I crave bone broths, organ meats and small birds, fish are great, like you. I can imagine a diet of your description suiting me also. The wheat thing is really not good, I puff up like a toad and get a bit asthmatic. I have never eaten loads of fruit, but I do love green juicing on occasion. Love my sauerkraut! Truly am relieved that my body is so much calmer – the jerkiness & lack of trust in my body re the epilepsy was such a downer, congrats on… Read more »

Andromeda
Andromeda

Every day at dinner I thank all the animals and plants that have been sacrificed so that we may live and we thank Mother Earth – conscious hematite crystal that she is! I hope my kids learn to be gratefully and yet comfortably aware of this aspect of the life as we need these animals in our diet, however sad it makes me at times!

Andromeda
Andromeda

Saturn’s not thin, he’s ..perfect. Or he wouldn’t be the moral overlord that he is, no?

Ariel
Ariel

Saturn squaring Sun – I thought two rice cakes at 10pm were a valid ‘dinner’. Yes I was healthier and more calorie conscious then. But as an ex-anorexic, that is not a healthy mode for me to be in.

Now Jupiter is in my second house and I am very busy trying to make enough money to join a gym!! Have put on weight since quitting my exhausting full-time job. But happy and fulfilled. It’s not your body so much as your relationship to your body that counts.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Transiting Jupiter is on my ascendant right now. I have gained some weight in my stomach area, noticeably, since this transit began. It’s like the only area I ever gain weight, but we are only talking a pound or two, here. It’s noticeable because I have a thin body type and tend to lose weight rather than gain, normally. Natally I have Saturn squaring my ascendant, which I guess gives me a thinner body type as I would think having Crab rising could stereotypically give a more curvy or heavier figure. I have a boyish figure, though, instead, even though… Read more »

juno
juno

Some years ago now, Jupiter transiting ascendant, highest weight ever. Jupiter currently transiting DC and square natal moon in tenth. Blast it, emotional eating issues over separation and too much work recurring. Saturn is sorting out the eleventh house, but will soon sextile the Ascendant, so will take that as a signpost to return to portion control. If not now! Goddamnit!

Baristagem
Baristagem

It’s basically been a Saturn Triathlon for me
Before Saturn Return I exercised about 3-4 times a week. Around Saturn Return I became a long distance swimmer then cyclist and trained 4-6 days a week. Since Nov 2011 I’ve exercised every single day and became a long distance runner. I had Jupiter in Gemini last year and this year and had no problem training every day plus I became a vegetarian. Probably Mars in Virgo conjunct Saturn in the 6th explains it?

K-Gem
K-Gem

Agree with Saturn: Saturn trine ascendant being time of weight loss and fitness and looking hot but was achieved via discipline and sweat. It was also Saturn in my natal sun sign. At same time Jupiter was in natal sun sign (4th-5th house). Now Saturn is trining my natal Saturn and Jupiter is in my 5th but due to hit the 6th house later this year and will use that energy to spur on current so-so efforts in this area.

calypso
calypso

Jupiter in 1st house = a desire to expand and a 10 kg gain (this may be an exaggeration but it could also have influenced my perceptions and propensity to overdramatise, lol).

Saturn has turned me off lots of indulgent foods & drinks but has also made me too busy to shop, cook, etc. = a 2 kg gain. Well at least the expansion has slowed….

Lennon
Lennon

When Jupiter went into my 1st, I got pregnant and HUGE. Now that Saturn’s on top of my Moon (and squaring 10th hs Venus) in the 6th, exercise is definitely the order of the day. I’m slimmer, sure– but not the svelte I think I might be if I didn’t have the Venus square.

lyouke
lyouke

Not for me, my SatRet was 20kgs overweight in an abusive rel from hell with zero social lofe. Then again my NatSat is Leo5th.

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

Yes. I got health obsessed and like a crusader against junk food (note – nearly all food for sale is junk) with saturn on my libra rising. Jupiter on my moon last year was when i discovered single origin chocolate, potatoes fried in truffle oil and that if a bread is really high enough quality, it is great by itself eaten with gourmet butter. Cue screaming at daughters: who put my Seven jeans in the dryer they don’t FIT ME, once again you have destroyed my life you selfish bitches. They eat marshmallows on way to school and look amazing,… Read more »

calypso
calypso

the bath salts? I want the bath(room)!

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

I got so many of my dietary issues sorted out last Saturn transit.

As for Jupiter…It can make you very gourmet. In a good way! Deliciousness rules. And fuq the expense!

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Jupiter on my Asc never saw me so goddam healthy and I lost 15kg to boot!! … Now it’s in my 2nd house on my Sun and all I wanna do is stuff my face with Willy Wonka caramel crunch family block and Ben & Jerry’s Peanut Brittle icecream. Crap!!!! Saturn in Scorp in the 6th house is keeping a stern eye on things though. This sugar binge rubbish shall not last! And I feel totally shit when I don’t stick to at least 85% paleo with oodles of wholefoods, veges etc. I got yelled at on another blog yesterday… Read more »

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

ps. I have mars conjunct mercury exact today and have just accepted I’m bound to piss someone off with my tactless, blunt opinions!!!! … bring on the haters. C’mon let’s have some biff 😛

:mrgreen:

Andy
Andy

Agree totally, but I do think self love is important & most especially when we are feeling addiction prone. Acceptance seems to help addicts gather the impetus to change, so on that level approving happiness at any size can be really helpful, dontcha think? 🙂

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

My experience with the addictive brain (and yes I do have one of those), is that it stems from a warped ego which prefers to make up a bunch of rationisations, justifications and delusions to avoid self honesty and lacks the courage to change. Self love grows immensly when I turn away from the ego voice and listen to my higher self which always encourages me to be honest and take right action even if it’s difficult or uncomfortable.

freedom ala air
freedom ala air

Yes good point prowln and Andy… I agree with both of you…

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid

Nope. My obesity is a result of a complex autoimmune condition made worse by decades of neglect by doctors who told me that the problems was that I was fat and needed to eat less and exercise more. But don’t let that stop you from putting the boot in.

Andromeda
Andromeda

🙁 That totally sucks. It’s how I feel encountering so many doctors today, such arrogance they have about their often poor knowledge base. You are a goddess, Dom Triff, you are.

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid

Actually, I’m several Goddesses 😀 Or maybe just one of the old-fashioned Paleolithic kind 😀 😀

…and just on a side note, isn’t it interesting that the Paleo crowd worship the fitspo / Cross-fit / ultra body; but our actual Paleo ancestors worshipped a body like Beth Ditto’s….

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Well that’s totally different. But I hear you re the frustration experienced when medical doctors blindly go along with the prevailing scientific lore even if it patently doesn’t work. I would say that it’s similar growing up with the “low fat high carb” mantra and being indoctrinated with this idea that somehow grain-based carbs are an essential nutritional requirement. Even more irritating to have spent a lifetime with yo-yo weight issues whilst dutifully following that mantra, only to discover that it’s actually a contributing factor to obesity in the first place!!!! ….. and then to realise that the mantra was… Read more »

freedom ala air
freedom ala air

I agree again prowlin…. I thought I was being healthy for years eating low fat low sugar high carb/whole grains and wholefoods… And continued to put more and more weight on despite lots of exercise… Anyway now doing protein fats and veges very low sugar and carbs and feel better than ever..

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Oh and sorry if that sounded like I was putting the boot in – that was mean of me. 🙁

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid

Thankyou ! Its a cruel world for a fatty. Pretty dresses have only been available, literally, in the last couple of years – unless you wanted to spend a couple of hundred dollars at Igigi….. I also have a theory about being overweight. In my experience, a person can be up to a size 18 or 20 (16 US, 20-22 UK) just because they like food. Much above that and I believe that there is either a physiological or psychological issue at work. And when I say psychological, I don’t mean a food addiction, because wheat and dairy are like… Read more »

juno
juno

really well put : )

GeminEE
GeminEE

Agree with Jupiter (gem sun) but not so for Saturn (scorp asc). Or is it lately? Was getting fatter due to stress, now with even more stress, have no time to snack.

Not doing the midnight power up or full speed at work. Well I either don’t realise it but it’s go home on time, no OT and full speed on crafts and things that I want to do.

Possibly I don’t like my job so not harnessing the zap zone energy. I’m at the fridges where I should evolve but hesitating.

pi
pi

you’re pretty much describing the amplitude of my life. although this part: “Is Saturn up all night power-slaving away, popping nurofen and hissing “sleep is for slackers” as their mental mantra?”: I wonder if this is actually Mars gone a bit crazy. I say this as this is pretty much what I am doing right now and I have prog Mars exact on my sun (STILL). Just had a realisation, I need to go ‘omni’ on my mind set. With the grand crosses, t squares, oppositions and whatevers in my chart right now, To commit to just one mindset of… Read more »

Domestic Triffid
Domestic Triffid

This is a great way of looking at Astro. How the bloody hell do you choose which particular combination is packing the most punch at any given moment ? This is the point at which the Science gives way to Art… I’ve had times where I’ve had all sort of major stuff happening in my chart, but a nasty head cold, which leaves me reluctant to leave the house. At other times my Astro is as flat as a calm sea but my life is raging away, upside down… ….I find myself looking at it going “What are all these… Read more »

Pi
Pi

🙂 I bet you enjoyed that ice cream 🙂 xx

S
S

Sure does get up my Saturn shirt when there is no alkaline water left.
Also saw a girl do the walk of shame this morning.
Must be time to make nice with Saturn and check just where it’s at.
It’s not even summer and your on fire Mystic!

delilah
delilah

my ascendant is in capricorn but conjunct jupiter in capricorn too…true my world goes wide and so does my waistline too…i hope capricorn will help in disciplining but to no avail…lol! 🙂

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