Did A Saturn Conjunct Sun Transit Turn My Friends Toxic?

Ioana Avram

Mystic advises a woman wondering if her Saturn conjunct Sun transit is to blame for her friends turning toxic all of a sudden. Or, is it just the optics?

Dear Mystic,

I have been congratulating myself on how well this Saturn transit is going. It is on my Sun until August or something. I got a raise and became more fit! Then I paid off and cut up a store card. All good, right? But no! I woke up last Friday insane with the urge to change my life, be frugal, cut down drinking and eat better to stave off, you know, mortality. I am 33 btw. Then when one of my two closest friends texted me about our Friday night plans, i said: “no babe, i am cleaning up my act, gonna cut some weight, save some $ and just have a quiet night in tonight, you know read a book…”

Next thing i know she (Gemini) loses her mind and both her + my other close friend (Leo) are texting and calling every five seconds saying we HAVE to go out. This sorry, three-way dialogue finally ended in one of them calling me a boring loser and the other saying “don’t kid yourself, you won’t be able to keep it up.” I spent the whole weekend thinking, and this is what i have come up with – I don’t look after myself. I owe whatever good looks I do have to skill with make-up, (relative)  youth, Duromine and St Tropez spray tans. I have not had a sane boyfriend in nearly six years. My so-called love life is extended one night stands, Love Zombie crushes and co-dependent things with addicts or players. I’m not even fashionable anymore.

My So-Called Love Life Is Extended One Night Stands And Co-Dependent Things With Addicts Or Players

My friends are only supportive of me if we are out together getting trashed at some place “cool” trying to make like we’re ten years younger. We all drink too much and enable it in one another. Getting wasted and talking about feminism is not the same as being a feminist. I have a good job, and thank god have always been able to keep it together at work, but my personal life is a mess. I make good money but spend it all on shit like a kid on a sugar high. Speaking of shit, that is all I eat, junk food, bar snacks and then the occasional wheatgrass shot. I think of myself as a ‘femme fatale’ like a Hemmingway heroine, but actually, I am just incapable of an adult relationship. Or even meeting the sort of men who might want an adult relationship. I can see all this without also looking at the scary subject of whether or not i want children. Or my long term financial security. 

Looking around, all I can see is that my friends are delusional. We are not fabulous 23 yr career girls with diverse and exciting dating life, we are alcoholic harpies who get shitfaced and have bad drunken sex with strangers most weekends. We spend a lot of time being cynical about people. Mystic, is this my Saturn conjunct Sun transit?  It also was such a sudden onset, one moment planning to get a new dress to go to this thing and wondering how to score something to go a little bit faster while there, next moment downloading a budget app from the tax office and deciding to give up drinking.  Did Saturn turn my friends into delusional bitches? They are still stalking me with tales of their suddenly fabulous nightlife. Now that I am not there, it seems suddenly full of eligible men, potential trips and people dancing. Or am i just seeing it all differently?

Scorpio In Hell

A Saturn Conjunct Sun Transit Starts With A Gloomy Stocktake Like This

Dear Scorpio In Hell,

You are seeing it differently. Your optics have altered. You’ve got Saturn Vision. This is actually how a lot of Saturn transits can feel. Like you’re suddenly waking up from some long bender in which you spent too much $$, talked too much crap and ate/drank way too much of everything.  Congratulations, you have Saturn Vision. Some aspects of it may be a little bit too harsh, but the point of this astro-passage is that it gets results. Real fast. I think of the stronger transits (Saturn out, basically) as being like the Matrix; it is like you pop a magic sci-fi pill and then see reality or at least another dimension of it.

My essential advice for any Saturn hell is to formulate a plan, and if these women are as bad as you’re depicting them here, plan A should be some distance from them. Think mature & strategic to be fit & wealthy, or more robust and secure than pre-Saturn.  Saturn is only on your Sun once every 29 years; it’s enormous. You’re doing brilliantly with the gloomy stocktake bit of it and paying down debt/getting more fit. And if you’re now feeling the need for more serious goals and nurturing relationships, yes! 

Browse the Saturn tagged posts for more inspiration on making this reckoning with the Time God work for you. The worst part of any Saturn transit – let alone a Saturn conjunct Sun transit – is the awakening. Once you shake off the remnants of any delusion and get moving on an action plan, you feel fantastic. And if you are not aligned with your friends, get new ones or go it alone for a while.

We have a LOT of experience with Saturn Awakenings here – yes? What does everyone else think?

 

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Taurus Vixen

Sounds like an excellent life wake-up call. You need to change your type of friends and playgrounds. The thing about the Universe is it hates a vacuum. Clean out these type of friends, raise your level of what type of people are acceptable in your life and you will have quality people start coming into your life. I speak from experience from the past 14 months.

Taurus-Gemini Femme\
Taurus-Gemini Femme\

I still feeling like I’m going through my Saturn Return and I’m going to be 34 tomorrow! I thought I’d be on with my 2nd destiny, but I’m not yet. It’s got me feeling angsty and wondering what I have to do to get there.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Well, well. All these lovely comments and what does Scorp in Hell reply?

I think I see part of the problem & it has more to with manners than being Saturn’s Bitch.

Scorpleo
Scorpleo

time for a bit of honesty to level out all those “u go girl” replies. hope u read this… we scorpiettes have a tendency to go whole hog with nu revelations / convictions, which can appear selfish. after all entering any relationships we agree to share all : doubts, problems etc and your friends could just be felling fuqing left out by your self-analyzed solutions. they are not mind readers, at least give them a damn chance to hear the whole story instead of just chucking “the End” at them and expecting applause. Relationships don’t work that way, they r… Read more »

em g
em g

Oh yes. Fabulous letter and yes it’s all good. Had my saturn opposition in 2008/9 in my 7th and got divorced which was the right move but boy has it been hard and now with an opposite nodal conjunction in 8 and saturn Scorp but still hangin in my 7th I have had a major meltdown with the love of my life and either he was in denial or I was just plain delusional. Bit of both to be honest. So had the one night stand crappy sex thing again and sort of wished I hadn’t bothered. Plus old lovers… Read more »

Loz
Loz

YES YES YES, you will mourn your old life sometimes, but this new vision is amazing, your friends will realise you’re serious and either jump on the train with you or you will suddenly find room in your life for other motivated, healthy people who have things under control.
Look for all the things that are out there to support your new clarity- yoga? superfoods? BUDGETS! They’re amazing.
Congratulations.

TheToadMan
TheToadMan

There is a link with Saturn and stone that you may want to look into because by law you are not delusional but crazy. I know because I searched myself and found out that there is stone that says so. If you do not understand me that is okay because I am a toad.

Scorpy Gal
Scorpy Gal

Dear Fellow Scorpio, I’m feeling as if I’m – well, not exactly the same situation, but certainly I’m cleaning up my act, too. I’m turning 32 later this year and maybe this whole time is not only Saturn’s deed, but also related to growing up? Anyway, I have a reading suggestion: Alice Randall: “Ada’s Rules”. A novel about a 50-year-old woman deciding to lose weight – very positive, she reaches her goal (there are autobiographic elements in it) and it made me want a bit of that self-satisfaction, too.

SalaciousSagg
SalaciousSagg

Wow! Scorpio in Hell-YOU have awakened to your Awesome! : > You are amazing! Do you get that? It takes courage to stand up to your “friends”. Glad you have outgrown them and are searching for authenticity in your life. Life is so precious and your body and mind and great health is true wealth; as is friends of the heart. At times you might feel sad and lonely and want to go back to those shallow acquaintances but I hope you stick it out and follow your path. You will attract like minded friends who will build you up… Read more »

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

I feel for you. But it’s great that you are seeing things with more clarity!

It’s one thing to drink and party if that’s all you want from life, but it is a sure sign that these people are not true friends if they can’t accept your choices and decision to focus on self-development.

Don’t be too hard on yourself…you deserve happiness and if being sane, solvent and sorted is doing it for you, then you’re on the right path!

neo-leo
neo-leo

fuq yeah. CLEAR IT OUT. moment by moment transit is the best. take the ride, and go with it. let that intuition swirl and let the clear take its place. what a clearing i have been going through and to be able to recognise and annihilate what you’re experiencing is THE BEST. scorpio, you ain’t in hell, you’re being shown the way to the high-self. awesome. great post, mystic.

hdq
hdq

Isn’t “you will lose 93.4% of your friends” rule #1 of Saturn transits? the one you keep is the one you keep. Plus the amazing and synched-up new ones… You’ll be fine. Better than fine, brilliant. Fuq those silly girls and nourish your mind, body, and soul. 33 is one of those years in which everything changes…

Hydrangea
Hydrangea

Holy mother, did I write this? This is exactly how Saturn is kicking my ass. Except tonight I decided to stay home (Monday night when my friends are out at a show, no doubt drinking) weeping… I’m not really sure why. Also, not sure working in the advertising industry supports my Saturn return.. The san Pelly is a good tip thought. Anyway, must sleep – spin class at 7.30am tomorrow, way.

Hydrangea
Hydrangea

Might add I got the raise too, but somehow it’s not enought….

Lucy
Lucy

Ha. The ‘delusional bitch’ title made me laugh so hard I had to comment,
haven’t read the post yet. Ha, ha.

(Pretty sure this astro has people calling ME a delusional bitch but I am feeling fantastic and I’m not paranoid.)

HipparaEcmerci
HipparaEcmerci

How inspiring. Loving all the advice that is coming in from people who have experienced it. I am kind of nervous about the Saturn on my Sun. But I figure if Ive done the Pluto thing, Saturn will be more do-able. And not, so, shall I say, destructive? I feel Saturn will help me construct after Pluto demolished everything. I feel like Im getting a break after all the Pluto stuff, to you know, re-nourish and just nurse myself back, but to be honest I feel like a fish on land, flopping around til I grow me some land legs… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

It’s hard to pinpoint exactly how a Saturn experience is different from a Pluto experience, but there IS definitely a difference. I personally feel from experience that Saturn is easier to deal with than Pluto. I did the whole Saturn thing before I did the trip to Hell with Pluto. Now that I’m in Hell, Saturn felt like a piece of a cake….albeit it was a dry, crumbly, old piece of cake. Still a lot easier than Pluto, I feel. Saturn gave me the classic “teeth falling out” dreams. I had plenty of those! I even had some where I… Read more »

hdq
hdq

I personally love the intensity of Pluto, whereas Saturn just tends to make me tired and depressed. Much more manageable he is though, if you have any shred of discipline in your makeup. My kale salad goes like this: giant bowl, fill with baby kale. Baby kale in a box is hands-down the best invention of the 21st century. Add a shredded carrot and half a shredded beet. Then the fun begins- tofu,peanut sauce, cilantro; olive oil, black beans, fried egg, avocado, lime, cilantro. Olive oil and balsamic, grilled asparagus or seared broccoli, sunflower seeds, hm more eggs. Basically some… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

I totally agree with this; “I personally love the intensity of Pluto, whereas Saturn just tends to make me tired and depressed.” !!! I think Saturn always does his *work* in the most predictable way. Pluto can be a little more….shocking, I guess you could say? Definitely intense…. and unpredictable, but necessary. When I’ve done Saturn transits in the past, I always knew exactly what needed to be done and for me, it was fairly painless. I adapted to the dry Saturn climate fairly quickly. Pluto is a bit more scary for me personally. It’s much more psychological and there’s… Read more »

HipparaEcmerci
HipparaEcmerci

Ooooooh I looove kale!!

‘Twas a gift Mr. Pluto left me on my doorstop after he bulldozed me through my 6th.

Kale is my Holy Grail 🙂 lol.

Anonymous
Anonymous

If you have a drinking problem, then Saturn is just like: “STOP THAT! NOW! WE DON’T HAVE TIME FOR THAT SHIT!” I think Pluto is more likely to say: “Hey, you like to drink? Well then let’s go get totally shitfaced and do something dangerous and out of character! Afterwards, you’ll realize how much you hate yourself and what this is really all about. You’ll never touch another drink again after you’ve partied with me. In fact, if you happen to be within a hundred feet of a bar or liquor store, you’ll break out into a cold sweat and… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Hmm. I think Saturn on my Sun will be good for me. I’ve never run away from discipline and duty, so I think it will be better than Pluto. Pluto was just painful; in my experience he likes to make you learn something through the most painful possible scenario to totally nip something in the bud. I’ve had to live out both Saturn and Pluto in my childhood(4th house), but I definitely feel I appreciated the Saturn lessons better as I grew up. I was able to achieve a lot with intense guidance with very living but albeit strict mentors.… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

I definitely agree with this. I have Pluto in the 4th and Saturn in the 7th, so I can definitely relate. Saturn has already opposed my Ascendant, my Mercury, my Venus, and my Sun. Also, had the square to my Mars. Now, he’s currently conjunct my Moon in Scorpio. I feel like all the Saturn stuff was relatively painless compared to the amount of shit I’ve gone through with Pluto. Pluto is just one cruel bastard. I remember thinking before Pluto arrived that because I’m already a Pluto dominant, I wouldn’t have that much trouble. I remember thinking I was… Read more »

Seagoat
Seagoat

My experiences lately tell me there are no guarantees. No matter what lifestyle we choose? We just have to do our best and follow our own roads. Our bodies tell us one way or another. You’re following what your body is telling you and that’s all that matters. Your friends are on a different path. You don’t have to go there with them, but no need to judge them either, even though they seem to be judging you. I suspect they’re missing you in their own fucked up way. Be stronger than that. You don’t need to heed them or… Read more »

Aqaleoscorpmn
Aqaleoscorpmn

Ha be happy your doing saturn on sun = reality identity. Im doing saturn moon And the real matrix pill uranus freaky ass shit learned about religion- Im an Aquarius for fucks sake and IM shocked. Also jupiter blowing through the 11th house of alien encounters. Listen i love scifi, but aliens actually here and feeding off us is fuking Up my mojo. Be gald u just have friensy decisions, because the shit ive learned in the past year is enough to make anyones head explode. Im 33 and only do extacsy like 3 times a year, aliens, NWO, illuminate… Read more »

Aqaleoscorpmn
Aqaleoscorpmn

Sorry Dman uranus in the 9th equal freaky freaky shit learned bout religion. Usually im quite unshockable.

joan
joan

Great self reflection! follow you’re gut feeling if this is what you need to do, do it! sounds healthy to me! don’t give into social pressure…! l feel the same about going out l’m a gemini sun, scorpio moon l don’t get people who keep on partying like the world is ending tomorrow, l need more substance l hate feeling tired and worn out, l love my sleep. also being in a steady relationship helps a lot…it grounds. You don’t need all that stuff out there. When you find yourself you will find friends who will match the new you… Read more »

Luna
Luna

I am having second Saturn return (and mine is cj Venus opp Moon!) and I’d just like to encourage you to take all the time and care for yourself of which you are capable. You may not believe this but you are heading into the prime of your life so keep your head high and your heart stout: you are worth your best!
(Funny, too, yesterday chatting with sis about ‘friend’ who phoned me on my 30th bday and told me I might as well realize life was all over now … that’s a bitch!)

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Haters gonna hate – that’s the short story of a Saturn transit well done. During my Saturn return, I quit smoking, took up a yoga addiction, and ate healthy. It made people around me really uncomfortable because they were full of excuses about how/why they couldn’t do the same and I was living-breathing proof that they could (and perhaps should?) change. I recall in particular the look on my now-ex brother-in-laws face after he ranted about how no one could fit exercise into each day and I said “you make time for dry cleaning, don’t you?” Deer in the headlights.… Read more »

Pi
Pi

hi scorpio. I hear you. I haven’t read the other comments yet (am doing a fast-procrastination before late-night assignment bender) so apols if I repeat others. my thoughts on skim reading your thing, (yes yes i know, a gemini-ish aproach to Important Scorp Issues is generally uncool, but i say all this with max respect and humanitarian love.: 1. You are doing the right thing. Your friends are in denial. you don’t need to change them, but you will detest yourself if you go against the Saturn grain. Splinters, you see. SATURN splinters. 2. STOP SHOPPING. You will get to… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

So she got a pay rise and got fit. Where’s the hell part??
And what was so funny? Did I miss something?

Meh, whatevs..

emily
emily

I agree that its a realization as well. Doesnt have to be age related tho. Suddenly youre more successful and beautiful than ever and you realize your current state of life isnt good enough for you? Whats wrong with that? 🙂

Kat
Kat

Buy yourself flowers!!!!!

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

The other name of Saturn is Kronos, father time. Saturn reminds us we all have limited time here, and choosing how we live is ours and ours only.

Kudos to you, you are doing your Saturn – boundaries, cleaning up your act, owning up your responsibilities and choices, and ditching the irrelevant.

leogroover
leogroover

So sharp and to the point SIH. must have been cathatic just writing it. Not SIH anymore maybe a shift to Scopio on the stairway to heaven. cue angels singing and violins

Scorp Inc.
Scorp Inc.

SIH, your story reminds me of my Saturn transit through my 7th house (Libra). When I looked at my relationships with Saturn vision, I was bewildered & pissed off; the rebalancing that followed was very shock & awe, very clear & final. Don’t waver & don’t look back, SIH.

calypso scorp
calypso scorp

“If you rely on drugs or alcohol it’s going to be self-destruction.”—Dalai Lama I started quitting my vices about a year ago and it’s an ongoing lifestyle shift that has included ditching shitty friendships. It’s awesome. You already have heaps of good advice here but follow your inner guidance and I think you will find a deeper more genuine form of contentment than you were previously capable of imagining. It’s exciting! Rather than think of it as quitting things you could think of it as taking up cool stuff. Like meditation, new diet habits, exercise that makes you feel good,… Read more »

Andromeda
Andromeda

Dear Scorpio in .. Look I am sorry, but you sound so darned sensible that this can’t be Hell! I am however hell mpressed that you seem to have just woken up & gone, “Oh, hey, that doesn’t work!” one day. Promptly followed by, “who are these people?”. You are asking all the right questions which in my mind means you already have all the right answers! My Saturn Return thought? I think it is tougher embracing love than it is a shell. In general, people pay lip service to love & hand out ‘how-to-build-a-cement-wall-around-yr-heart’ instruction manuals in Primary School.… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

so all this tauras is teaching me that i don’t need all these friends
random friends, friends that were never meant to be my friend,
toxic friends so i burnt all the bridges as i am in a no 1 year in numerology can not let the dead wood in.
I enjoy my own company and have a few special friends that are kin spirits.
the rest are casual but casual not work anymore for me must be saturn in scorpio. I just like peace and connecting with uplifting peeps.

Anonymous
Anonymous

OMG i thought i was alone in the wrong friends issue. I met up with a guru type guy who has tauras north node and mine is scorpio. So i am going where he has been and that is a blessing. What he has mastered as a tauras north node…the ability to really relax,,,ok he has venus and mars in leo (cancer sun) he knows how to be a cat and relax in the sun and really let go. He has sag moon and taught me the value of having a fire. I need to move and i will do… Read more »

Savannah
Savannah

I have a Scorpio girlfriend not doing her Saturn transit very well. This letter made me think about how she is resisting everything it’s trying to say/teach…like back off the dope, booze & get yourself properly diagnosed (me thinks bi polar exacerbated by years of fore mentioned abuse). She’s out of control. She’s wrecked our friendship slowly since last Christmas the last straw was sending me an email last week dripping with hate for me & threats. She admitted she is jealous earlier this year of what I enquired? ………….I work with men! Wtf!! But I see it as hate… Read more »

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

Sweetie you are describing a typical day in the fashion industry. And okay – my Saturn return. Which happened to take place in the fashion industry. I agree with more or less everyone else, drop the delusional bitches, clean up your act and trust me the people who keep on partying hard are wizened up psychological vampire wrecks. Have you seen the latest pics of lindsay lohan’s mum out on a bender?Order in some crates of san pelly so you still feel “fashionable”

libretta
libretta

agreed! You won’t miss them.

Trace minerals+ grow some kale + hydration. throwing away $ on processed food is so out of date.

A good spiritually based 12 step study has done wonders for me as well.

Best of Luck, Looking forward to meeting the new you.

fallen angel
fallen angel

I think this is all delightfully (for lack of a better word) sobering. People forget how much influence alcohol has, even after the weekend has passed. I don’t drink A SINGLE DROP, mainly as I can’t but even that little factoid doesn’t stop people from slinging accusations at me for being no fun etc.. au contraire, if one’s idea of fun is reappearing at essentially the same bar/club scene where only the names change or requiring a mood altering substance to get there, then it’s a very limited existence. Besides, hello post-GFC & ultra Zap Zone living?? Edina & Patsy… Read more »

monte
monte

Stop the duramine! It is seriously not good for you.

jicky
jicky

Scorpio in Hell, ’tis best you get a grip at 33 rather than wait till 43 or 53. Think of the quality of life you’ll have, money you’ll save, looks you’ll save. I also agree with the above comments: have a counsellor for this growth phase and to really work it with support (Relationships Australia are happy to work on your relationship with yourself). I can also vouch for roast vegetable salads and lots of fruit. I’m nearing 50 and get told I don’t look anything like it. Enjoy!

Superlibran
Superlibran

+1 for roast vege salads, esp with a grain like quinoa & tangy dressing

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

Hello Beautiful !
I hope you are glowing.
xxx I think of you quite often, and hope the sun is shining on you after your metamorphisis, but hold back from commenting every time you do in case you think
”holy crap will this woman leave me in peace!!”
You came to mind on the weekend when sister and i discussing His Royal Sauciness Russell Brand x

Anonymous
Anonymous

Omg, in the middle of a Russell sesh atm! Soz to interject. His spiels on Life, the Multiverse & Everything send me. Love his compassion toward the darkness & spirit awareness. He is a tonic for me, so quick too.

Seabird
Seabird

Ahhh Russell Brand. One night stand on a stick. I actually had a dream where I met him in a hotel wearing nothing but a silk slip. These days I am supposedly into deep relationships, but, look, one night with Russell Brand is something I’d never turn down. Someone who can both out-talk me and quite possibly outlast me where it counts, and a fellow Gem at that. Mmmmmmm

jicky
jicky

Cosmic Fleece I’ll never forget and always cherish you reaching out to me at that difficult time. That Russell Brand documentary was so timely for me to understand that I could never be a recreational user – it was all or nothing. Thank you lovely, I’ll always appreciate your comments xx

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

Gemmie Sister and I were on road trip to collect our fathers ashes. We were stopping at a winery for a maze (of hedges). I said to her that the real reason i didnt drink or do hoochie or any susbstance is that i am an addict by nature. That if i start on something i can not stop, if i started drinking my nature would not see anything wrong with having a wine for breakfast, same with hooch…so the only way is obstaining. She was a little suprised, howeve when she looked at my history she agreed there was… Read more »

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

abstain rather ! i get obstain abstain effect and affect wrong no matter what … xx

jicky
jicky

Cosmic Fleece just being able to know that about yourself – that you cannot control hooch (my problem too) is an so powerful. All the psychs and counsellors I’ve talked to over the last few months are amazed at that. Apparently it is quite rare for recovering addicts to understand that about themselves. All hail you Cosmic Fleece and Russell Brand for getting to the bottom of it and getting it out there.

jicky
jicky

I’m sorry to hear about your father x

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

Respect to you Madame Scorp ! Kudos to you. YOU are your best investment ! You have started to respect yourself – the world will follow suit. Next step (?) find a gym/ outdoor trainer / boxing class – make it a class so you arent left to your own devices!) yoga studio, you can ask if they do trials as your looking into whether to start up etc… Nutrician Appotment / Dietian ? Explain old eating habbits and get on a new kick. If anyone can phoenix from this its YOU ! Sign up for a night time course… Read more »

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

And please give your spray tan the flick.
Haute Scorp dont be needing no fake tan !!

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

PS – Haven’t had a drink in almost 8 years. Attract like minded people … It’s a mighty fine place to be. If Nick Cave can do it ….!

leogroover
leogroover

lol

Fi
Fi

YOU are doing fine.
Your friends ARE bitches for saying what they did, but then again, their response is predictable.
Immutable law of politics and human relationships: wherever there is revolution, there is an attempt (often protracted) to undermine it on the part of those (the friends, the partner, the elite, the family member, or whomever) who were strongly invested in and benefitting from the ancien regime, however dysfunctional it was!

Maria
Maria

This eclipse has been such a deep realisation about my life. Its just too deep to even explain. You know Iam so hacked off about saturn in Taurus. How long do I have to wait to sort out my personal life. I have never felt so stuck.

gemyogi
gemyogi

Dear Scorp,

1. Your letter was very funny. (Can’t help thinking you live in Sydney, or at least near Chapel St in Prahran)

2. You’re not in Hell, you’re just growing up and getting some common sense.

3. Ditch those delusional biatches, they sound a bit toxic.

4. Follow your interests and find real friends.

5. Be kind to yourself. Eat healthy. Cut down on the booze. And stop spray tanning, it looks fake. Get real.

6. Hugs. Respect yourself GF!

emmaru
emmaru

I tried to work WITH saturn for my second saturn return . All that saturn got from that message was WORK. I seemed to get nothing but hard physical work – – so saturn will do things for you anyhow. Reminds me of that old jewish saying -” If you want to make god laugh tell her your plans.

pegasus
pegasus

HUH? what’s that in RED….a ‘phishing’ site. What’s that, why?
Is there a spook in my name?

gemyogi
gemyogi

Dunno Pegs. Too scared to click on it (red link) in case it installs malware on my imac!

pegasus
pegasus

Duromine??? They still make that stuff?? Green & black capsules that turn you to alcohol coz you can drink MORE than usual and give you double the wrinkles from dehydration.
One night stands to give you STD’s??
Try Guarana and Ginko for a buzz. Get intoTantra for more meaningful sex.
Get into the sun between 9.00 -10am and 5pm-6pm, saves your sheets & lingerie from the marks (& chemicals) of spray tans.
Grow up instead of down, try not to sting yourself, Scorp.
Honour your new self becoming.

Seabird
Seabird

Yep, you’ve got a Saturn transit, fer shizzle! Signs are that you have suddenly woken up from your own life to find that the values you thought you embodied actually have nothing to do with your actions. Further signs are that this pisses you off, and you suddenly realise that you don’t gel with your own behaviour. And that you’re gonna do something about it! It’s like going cold turkey on nicotine. Don’t worry, the next little while will only be about as painful as having all your skin sandpapered off and then rolling in salt. But it’s all cool… Read more »

Seabird
Seabird

PS I’m not touting but quitting sugar entirely revolutionised my life – google I quit sugar and give it a go!

Seabird
Seabird

PPS I second the above comments, your letter was one of the funniest and sharpest I’ve ever read on here; I spat tea whilst reading. You’ll do, you’ll get through it!

beth
beth

wow! brilliantly said seabird! thank you! so funny!!

watervirgo
watervirgo

PS Mystic I love the Matrix pill! That’s how this eclipse is making me feel. Feels so against what I’ve been doing all my life, but it feels so right and spot on too!

watervirgo
watervirgo

Go with it. It’s tough at first, get a good therapist and keep going. It’s like running, you’ve found a pace you want to be at, don’t let any bitches or boofheads slow you down. The universe then shows up for you. And trust yourself. You don’t want to end up 40 in the same sitchu having a biological clock ticking scoping dudes at a disco for a dad. Good luck! Go with kindess and dignity and you can’t go wrong.

RA
RA

Yah, full on stellium Saturn transit (conj Saturn, Moon, Asc, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto), finishing off now with Saturn conj Sun.

Growth is good – will bring a better quality of relationships, but will also be initially a bit startling and raw. No going back tho.

Superlibran
Superlibran

Sounds to me like you are on the right path. Determination to achieve one’s higher self is tres sexy to some so no doubt you are becoming ever more attractive in the eyes of the right beholder – one who wants and adult relationship replete with conscious awareness of the self and the other perhaps? My Saturn transit trip of 2009 – Now and still going has been somewhat intense but worth it – 6 planets including Venus, Sun & Mars in 5 planet stellium in Libra in the 7th house.. It’s only now I’m realising how truly awful some… Read more »

plutonic irruption
plutonic irruption

We all drink too much and enable it in one another. – saturn speaking ! love it. best letter eva myst ! go u scorpo in hell !

S
S

I got to spray tan and just about choked laughing so hard.
This sounds like a dude wrote this.

Mitra
Mitra

I had to look up Duromine…. Scary stuff.

S
S

So did I Mitra. My eating disorder days were more traditional.
The moment one becomes fashionable your already out of style.

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