Fired For Being A Virgo

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Dear Mystic,

I was fired for being a Virgo.

My boss and HR pulled me into the office after the one and (to my knowledge) only time a client (who phoned in from a funeral) requested I be removed from a contract. The project kicked off on the most recent New Moon. HR noted my strengths and weaknesses said they weren¹t particularly interested in either, that they weren¹t going to provide training on my weak spots or gather assignments for my strengths, and that they¹d let me know if I have my job on Monday.

And, implied strongly, that I¹d better stop looking like I am thinking in the hallways if I want to stay around here. HR noted that I was great at analysis and research and my boss said my work was perfect. As we wrapped up the meeting, HR quipped that maybe I could change my astrology sign.

 All events seem related to the Full Moon in Virgo . Including this odd “we¹ll get back to you” situation they¹ve put me in at work. I am on day 10 on no smoking, constipated, ahead of my Moon cycle, and doing my Saturn hard. I can change like a snake, but I am no caterpillar. Even a Virgo has the right to make a living, no?

I¹ve had colleagues from the past (2001 and 2008 eras) appear in my life in the most synchronistic of ways this week. I am currently pursuing two job leads and have interviews lined up. Is this the Zap Zone pushing me to further phoenix or just Mercury Retrograde Full Moon Hell? And, when do the good days start for Virgo?

Blessings,
12th House Virgo

Dear 12th House Virgo,

You don’t sound quite “fired” for being a Virgo but it’s odd for sure! Surely a “quip” that you should change your astrology sign counts as some sort of discrimination. God, if there was any sign human resources departments were going to discriminate against, Virgo would be bottom of the list, right? It should be a selling point.

Remember the Scottish Male Virgo Cleaner? Marius Kloppers, the soon-to-be Ex head of BHP and uber-Virgo would definitely hire you. According to this article, his Virgoness was not so popular.

So okay, stay off the smokes (for your skin, if nothing else), get a Squatty Potty for the other, anticipate a lessening of tension apres Full Moon and full return to normal transmission after March 18. No point chasing these people down during Mercury Retro, annoying as that is. Is this the Zap Zone? More or less everything is the Zap Zone this year and next. 2015 too. And this year, the Zap Zone is also Saturn in Scorpio, Neptune in Pisces + Jupiter from mid-year.

The Zap Zone is the Everything. Whatever you’re doing, think “is this Zap Zone compliant?” If it is, you’re doing fab. Please read/re-read the Zap Zone rant to remind you of the basics.

F.Y.I. the Zap Zone is super triggered from March 12…by Mars. 

Also how can you be booted out for looking like you think in the hallways? With “perfect” work? I don’t work in an office – what am i missing and what does everyone else think?

 

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space

I can see that you are really stressed and full of fear at the moment, but this is an opportunity to face the fear and realise that everything really is ok. So you don’t have a job anymore, so you might have a ‘hole’ in your resume. Don’t worry about it. You have the entire universe before you. Just spend some time going ‘yay, I don’t have to go to work right now’. And then let yourself dream of what you would really love to do. Not in a minutiae kind of way, but in a stream of consciousness kind… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks. I def did need to spend time with my fears. Not saying I am over them. But letting it be.

Today I had an interview. The office is beautiful. They have processes and core values and methods and thing my Virgo-ness craves. The recruiter told me the interviewer said “I want her on my team.” Whatever happens, happens. It was a nice day.

Funny fear…once I let (or had no choice but to let) it over take me, I realized where my power was hiding.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

So, I did get fired yesterday. The whole show-down was so Pluto-square-Mercury during full moon in Virgo and everything in Pisces. HR told me “You want structure here, you need structure to feel safe. This is a fluid environment. No one knows what they’re doing.” How Pisces is that? As soon as she put it like that – I saw everything differently. I saw their side of the story and how irritating my attention to process and details had been all along. I thought it was a value add! And, in truth, it had been. But at the cost of… Read more »

aqua
aqua

Hey, I just answered your post on another thread, without twigging that you were the same 12th house Virgo with this situation, the other day (Doh!) Wow, so stuff has moved. You actually sound clearer and happier for it. The bamboo and lamp thing is actually hilarious…. toxic boss might start getting clues when you have to bring in buddhas for all corners of the office. And obviously it has brought a realization for you too – they are fluid, they like fluid. Fluid’s great, if it works in the particular business/situation. There are certain practicalities of life where detail… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks. I feel really afraid and insecure still. I know its on the up. I had a hard time getting out of bed today. Was going to start a self-defense class tonight, but I don’t think I can face it. Maybe yoga for now. Or just feeding myself and cleaning. I do suspect once this mercury retro is over my colleagues will realize how extreme they were. By then I’ll likely be in a job more suited. It’s not where I am now, but the next step I take from here that will tell the story of my career. Uranian… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I read your other post. Thank you for that. I have been here before. You described the spot well. It sucks while it lasts, but flips quickly. It’s frustrating. I had dreams that warned me of what was coming. But lately I can’t remeber my dreams. Anyway – thanks for reaching out like that. It helps to know there are others out there.

Indigofish
Indigofish

Hey Mystic, love the image with this post but we need to give 12 HV a boost with a slightly different version, same look of composure on the face, but middle fingers extended to the front, flipping off those workplace meanies.

Indigofish
Indigofish

Honey, I can decode for you. You are smart and the client feels dumb. So does the HR twerp. So does your boss. Go. Find people who love you for being smart. They do exist. It’s a pretty cruel world for smart girls. I used to get terribly upset over not fitting in at work and also being told the same. Unpleasant. Eventually I have found amazing people who think that I’m just awesome and they can’t get projects done without me. It really helps that they seem to have not fit in anywhere else either. My work history has… Read more »

libretta
libretta

They are likely hoping you will quit due to all the mind games, and are doing due diligence. Cheaper & fewer legal issues for them. Would that explain anything?

libretta
libretta

ps am super sympathetic- and sure you will end up better off in the end. The world needs your skills to be used fully 🙂

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Yeah, I got that. But, oddly, I feel empowered. Because they can’t get rid of me so easily. But I can leave whenever I want. All documentation is on my side. They did’t even document the ambush on Thursday. So, technically, I’ve never been given a warning. My resume looks great. I’m Virgo-ready for the Universe to put the right opportunity in front of me. 🙂

Vesta lion
Vesta lion

Is your south node in the sixth or tenth house? I think such placements point towards troublesome work environments and bosses.

Monster Mash
Monster Mash

I hate those undocumented little meetings so much. I always send an email saying ‘this is my revollection of our meeting on blah blah and this was the content of the meeting. Please make any changes or additions and I’ll keep both recollections in my personal records’. Arse covering I know, but those meetings and all the crappy things they say can suddenly disappear into thin air when it suits your boss. I’ve learnt the hard way to keep records of every meeting or ‘chat’.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

SN is in 9th house Gemini. I have Jupiter, Juno and Ceres in 6th house Pisces. Venus and sun in 12th house Virgo make a Yod with Jupiter in the 6th. Jupiter squares Ne

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

…Neptune

libreta
libreta

well done 🙂

aqua lion
aqua lion

Sorry, so much good advice here and I’m just going to add 2c more and I haven’t even read the rest. Just – please don’t act from a sense of “not having enough” (healthcare or whatever else). You need to look after yourself and also look after your sense of abundance right now. So go and do something that makes you feel abundant, being a virgo I’m sure you won’t go overboard, but a new hairstyle (=investment), massage, pot of flowers for your kitchen or a really nice meal out with friends would be good for you right now. Let… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I owe a lot of steps forward to Leos in my life. I have moon in Leo.

Weird, weird times. Excuse my foul mouth a second: I didn’t tell them to suck my dick today but I showed them my balls by being composed today. THEY have to make the move now. And I know I have support behind the scenes. I don’t have to talk about it. I only need to act on the opportunities that come my way. I think I’m getting this Pluto-square-mercury transit. 🙂

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

BTW – acting on opportunities that come my way includes networking, updating my resume, and returning inquiries from recruiters.

Lucy
Lucy

Sounds like…um, feels like a soul to soul communication, they are pushing you out before the space ship blows up, something like that. Anybody who doesn’t want you, doesn’t know you. Also a chance to sharpen up whatever you need to do, the phoenixing whatever. I got fired from a job ONCE. One of the best things that happened to me. I took on a project that I was too good for. Learned lessons about being more present (also the need to be more present when choosing work). People I would never want to work with again, yada. It all… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You guys, I feel like such an idiot for filling up so much of the blog with my drama. As an update for my lovely friends here – HR and my boss ignored me all day. So, I worked on my resume and had a long lunch with colleagues. Holy Mercury retrograde from hell, right? How many days does this last again? Pfftt…

calypso scorp
calypso scorp

12HV, you sound like a total sweetie. I don’t really get some of your intimations that others find you difficult. Seem totally with it to me….people can be the worst, you know? And workplaces, well. Little pits that amplify power and interpersonal dynamics.

I gotta run right now, but I think you’re under immense pressure with the quitting and the moon – keep on with the quitting, love yourself!

gbs
gbs

12HV, a thought struck me that by eliminating smoking from your life you’re fenging your body, so to speak, and that this latest development in your job is an expression of the chi beginning to move. I don’t know if that resonates with you, but I don’t think it’s coincidence that cleaning the muck of nicotine out of your lungs is also helping you to clean out similar energies in your external world.

Good luck with your next steps and keep us updated on how everything goes.

ms. vervain
ms. vervain

Sending support and best of wishes to you, 12th House. Intense passage right now, this Virgo Sun (do I also share Leo Moon with you?) is riding the Zap as well. Can’t even tell what it means half the time, had my meeting with HR letting me know I no longer had a job due to cutbacks. I ended up working a shift the very next day, and have had plenty of hours as a sub… they even gave me a raise. ???? Then there’s flu turned to pneumonia, Pluto/Uranus issues with my fabulous children (thought we were done with… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks for sharing. It does feel like Virgos have been under fire lately. My job situation sounds oddly like yours in that there are MASSIVE disconnects in what’s being communicated. I was told I MAY have a job on Monday, and here it is Monday and no follow-up meeting.

Judging by the scopes, sanity should be coming in April. I hope you find yourself in a job that values you then too.

ms. vervain
ms. vervain

Yes….. it seems that right now it’s more difficult than usual to assess something as ‘bad’ or ‘good’. I’ve stopped even trying to apply appropriate concern (worry!) to seemingly disastrous changes/events/developments….. as they will probably have morphed into something else by the next day or at least the next week. 🙂

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Yes – and I do share your Leo moon. All this Pisces energy – Pisces is my 6th/7th – has got me flowing with conflicts instead of resist them. No choice but to surrender to the process, no good/bad about it.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I kind of feel the same way about Virgos……..picky matchy matchy clean freaky nightmares……Just saying

Seagoar
Seagoar

That’s ridiculous, clearly you have never worked with a Virgo clearly. In the workplace, they are gems! I tell ya.

GemCrab
GemCrab

I don’t feel a particular way about any sun sign. I did when I knew less about astrology, not like I know so much now, but with time I realized it often had a lot more to do with other aspects aside from their sun. Most of the time sun was not even a factor …

In theory, other water sign suns and I should get on wonderfully but it often takes more (much more) Fire sign suns LOVE me. Go figure.

Unconventional Gemini
Unconventional Gemini

Dear 12th house Virgo: As someone who spent a number of yrs in HR in a large org, specializing in all matters related to the executive levels including performance issues and those who were organized out of their positions and dealing with the fallout of same, my perspective is this: 1. Don’t panic – as difficult as it is, be serene, hold your head high and maintain your dignity and class at ALL times – this demonstrates loudly and clearly that you are in control of yourself and whatever negatives they or the client holds of you, THEY have it… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks! So nice to hear from a pro on these issues! This blog is amazing!!!

I am rising above blame as much as I can. I brought some brownies into the office. I have no reason to resist being pushed out because if its happening, its because I don’t fit here. But I do have talents that apply here too. So, trying to keep that balance. Because I feel like where ever I go, I will have to deal with my personality problems.

GemCrab
GemCrab

Awesome attitude regarding an awkward situation. Brownies, to boot? Brilliant touch. I’m sure they didn’t see that coming!

You’re seriously handling this in the best possible way but … I would continue to look elsewhere if possible.

I forgive but I don’t forget and their behavior and wording with you has been unbelievable. They clearly aren’t appreciative of what you bring. I don’t even know your Aqua boss and I find him irritating.

Good luck and keep up the positivity.

seagoat
seagoat

Wow, what an interesting thread to home to! My advice: be clear eyed, look at the beast for what it is, acknowledge its power but then turn your gaze and get your strength from the beautiful things in life, the things that swell your heart and make you want to dance and sing. Given the pluto in Cap era we are living through of course we are all questioning our daily devotion to/ructions within the corporate body that is ON THE WAY OUT. The towers are crumbling but there are individuals (bosses, HR etc) that have so much invested in… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks so much! This is lovely. I am an idealist. I want to heal the corporate body. Remake it. That’s my work. To make our systems reflect the needs of the users they represent. That’s how I use my Mars in Libra – fighting for end users in interface design. I’m glad to be clear on that. Because I thought I was lost. But it fits my 12th house Sun. You could be using something I created and never know. All my creations are temporary anyway. This company is resonating like my family so strongly it must be magic at… Read more »

seaoat
seaoat

I just want you to know, you are not alone. As much as you might feel that way now. There may be other people sitting not too far from you, who, in their own way, feel isolated, compromised and yes, just plain confused and hurt. Corporate functionaries are masters of the mixed message! You are obviously “the talent”, otherwise they would just dispose of you. They clearly don’t want to. Anyway, stand back and observe for a while, and don’t let them stop you from doing what you are good at. Choose your battles wisely. xxx

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks…yes…they could be a few desks away. I am going to walk around a see if I can find them and share the good cheer you just shared with me. 🙂

seagoat
seagoat

If I had my own business (which one day I will) I would always make sure I had a Virgo on staff. They are talented, great workers, and tell it like is (in the workplace anyway).

And, if you’re trying to do the right thing, nobody is more loyal than a Virgo. Loyalty rocks! xxx

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Hey 12HV babe, I feel for you. Do you have practical support? Even if you are let go there is supposed to be severance pay in lieu of notice, that kind of thing? The HR people sound beyond toxic, not to mention unprofessional. Have you documented the processes of their dealings with you? I understand all of the comments about seeing the bigger picture and being a good fit and all that, I really do, and yes I agree with that but I also get the very real practical issues that you might now face. You are very smart and… Read more »

Monster Mash
Monster Mash

I’m not a Virgo but I had the same sort of issue, faultless work performance but I p-ed off the boss because I didn’t go to morning tea every day, I missed the Christmas party (how dare I) and I looked unfriendly and unapproachable because I was always concentrating on my work. Oh and apparently one morning I walked past someone without saying good morning and they made a complaint. It was so ridiculous because I work in a high stress job with a lot of media backlash but my boss hated me because I was working instead I’d socialising.… Read more »

leogroover
leogroover

12th House Virgo (((((big hugs)))))

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

It’s funny how the HR person said you needed grounding, and yet change your star sign – hello! Virgo, EARTH sign. Perhaps not as fixed as say Taurus but I have not known Virgo to be lost in the clouds. Even analysis paralysis will be worked through (eventually) with a virgo because they are dogged determined, until it’s done properly…

I reckon this is a Saturn in Scorping episode. And once it has finished crunching through, the results will be diamond like.

Hang in there!! 🙂

nonametoomuchair
nonametoomuchair

Well maybe you threaten them and they are just using a bullshit excuse? People who deep down feel inferior or know they are in some way usually try to belittle people who display attributes they feel they lack in? Remember stay stuck and youre fucked, so maybe its them need to stay where they are and you move to the new now? Maybe your boss and hr person are having a secret torrid affair and being paranoid they think you know:) so they better help you on your way Remember the saying MM if its exhausting its not right? Good… Read more »

Mitra
Mitra

Dear 12HV The process of how we voice ourselves in the world is an ongoing one and can feel like we stuffed up when we still don’t know ourselves that well and are getting a lot of confusing signals from others about how they feel in response to something we did. So don’t be so hard on yourself. it’s a life long or lives long learning. Something has happened here where you have only been given part of the picture. I wouldn’t pay too much attention to sniping from HR. I don’t know if this is your or them, but… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Good God, I’m late to the game dealing with you know, noxious substances in our products etc. but HOW awful 12th House darling. I do agree with lots of what’s been offered already, the toxicity of the environment, how this has refreshed your perspective and even whilst panicky, made you own and confront self-esteem issues.. which btw is always an ongoing job really, nobody ever really arrives there, dusts their hands together and goes DONE. Obviously as a Virgo, this is even more intensified. Since you (and some of us Virgo Risers) already come with a built in self-rating system… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

“There is a limit to how you can bend people to a certain change.” This is very true. In fact, i think the picture Mystic has used illustrates this idea. Certainly, in my own travails through the office politics minefield, i found that the struggles i went through to make changes within myself paid off in that i have better relationships with many other colleagues. What i couldn’t change was the mindset of the small group of bullying people, and neither could they, to the detriment of their project and their professional credibility. They went on to expose themselves to… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’m glad you mentioned the inner Virgo critic. Nothing is ever as bad as my self-judgement would lead me to believe. Thanks. Xo

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

as horrible and shaking as it is, it’s probably a good thing, you know? a fitting farewell to your uranus transit. you’ll get to heal your father wound through the easier medium of your boss, you’ll get to embody all the depth and authenticity and power you’ve accumulated through these last few years of pluto, and you’ll get to own that 0 degree mars once and for all. hopefully too you’ll get a chance to rest and take it all in too. you’re shedding your skin at a rapid pace- it’s pretty awe inspiring. strut your stuff tomorrow morning and… Read more »

K-Gem
K-Gem

Mystic: I think you need to remind us all of the office horoscope types. 12HV: your strategy in dealing with the company is to make sure you get a sufficient payment for getting out of their hair so that you have the financial freedom to explore the current opportunities, without the need to grab the first thing that comes along. Drink heaps of H20, workout to work the tension out, a BDHJ moment (minor) is permitted in the circumstances (but not if it will make you take up the Death Sticks again). Look after yourself. I was once sacked on… Read more »

Analysed to death
Analysed to death

Oh how boring! It’s like the blog has become all about 12th house V.

So much over analysis. Do you ever go outside for some fresh air??

Surprised you’re good at your job when your on here 24/7

Analysed to death
Analysed to death

Maybe you were fired for being a pain in the arse bore

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

oh look at the cute little troll. pat pat pat- would you like some milk and cookies?

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Not a good idea to feed the trolls hiddendragonqueen … makes ’em come back for more! 😉

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

nah they are just hungry for love. there’s plenty of love to go around- it can’t hurt. and everybody loves cookies. 🙂

Analysed to death
Analysed to death

Ok. The second comment was a bit mean and uncalled for. Sorry

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Fuq off, boring troll. You belong somewhere commonplace, where you can rub your single braincell up against other demeaning and cruel primitive types. Subscribers say piss off.

Anonymous
Anonymous

ATD – crawl back under your rock… you’re not welcome here

Anonymous
Anonymous

Analyised you are a jerk…
A big one. Good bye

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Even a pain in the ass bore has to make a living. Saying work isn’t just about work may be great advice – but it doesn’t compute for me. When people say that, they really mean you don’t
know how to socialize and I know don’t know how to do that already. I don’t know how to break the pattern.

Analysed to death
Analysed to death

Ok… You know what I reckon? Everyone’s pretty much given the same advice. Im on the boss’s side. Clearly your work isn’t the issue, so it’s got to be your personality. The boss is giving hints. Take them!.
Work isn’t just about work. When you’re in an office it helps to be a little sociable! Can’t you just fake it until you make it??

Analysed to death
Analysed to death

Do you ever hang out with REAL people?, like not on this blog. The REAL world…. and forget about astro for a while. It can’t solve all your problems. Especially when it requires even more analysis. Just an idea…

RA
RA

We should never analyse things – thinking only leads to overthrowing outdated notions such as ‘work isn’t just about work’ and then what do we have? Chaos! Anarchy!

Remember, always sell your soul and personality to your corporation, kids. They’ll reward you in the end (…won’t they!?!?).

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Analyzing shared problems is how I communicate. Its odd. I’m like a robot in a way. I could turn a potential romantic relationship into a findings and recommendations document. In truth, I’ve done that before. I’m not saying I know what to do from here. Certainly you’re right about analysis not being everything. But how to communicate with others? I don’t know. I can’t figure it out alone. That’s all I know. I will take more walks and less reviewing of astro charts. So your negative comments did offer me a constructive insight. Trying not to latch on to the… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Your binary thinking is showing. Do you have an actual career, with enough experience to be dispensing your ill thought views? Your language skills tell me no. Your low level social skills tell me no. You can’t make this any better, and your first comment wasn’t nice, either.

Anonymous
Anonymous

How is what Analysed said in last 2 comment ill thought? Everyone is entitled to an opinion & this is their perception, perhaps it’s something that 12th HV may need to consider?

There’s always positives & negatives to a situation. So right now a negative is being expressed. If this helps 12th HV then great. What will she learn if everything is just put on the boss? Is no one allowed to offer an alternatie view point?

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Disagreement can be expressed as constructive criticism. I’m sure Mystic didn’t post this simply so people could take potshots. And stop supporting your own comments as someone else.

Analysed
Analysed

Oh I see, David’s not here so you’re acting on his behalf – telling people to fuq off if they disagree with the crowd. Borrrrring!

N&P
N&P

Perhaps you can stop your assumptions? I’m not Analysed. I’m sure A is more than able to support themself without my aid.

N & P
N & P

N&P formerly anonymous

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Clearly it is my personality. I am human enough to see that. And I feel stuck. Hidden’s comment about doing my Jupiter was more helpful than this.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

i will take that as in my comment was the 2nd least helpful (which is fine, i’ve got no office experience to share), and not that it is in any way related to the analyzed anon’s asinine spew. poor guy. i suspect we shall see him back with yet another alias soon.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

NO! That’s NOT what I meant! ATD has got a point about hearing the other side of things, you know? I’m so honored by the attention and support I get here, but boss-bashing only gets me so far. I have to find what I can own in the situation and not be victimized. This is MY pattern. And you talking about NN helped, really. And, perhaps in spite, ATD did too. Because, instead of commenting on the blog for lunch, I went out with my colleagues and chatted in the kitchen. I am brilliant at analyzing things, so much so… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Analysed sweetness, there’s this thing called Free Will. It bores you? Don’t read it. Don’t comment. And it isn’t just about 12th House Virgo. We’ve all had permutations of the same scenario in some fashion, yes, there’s a lot of unfairness in the world unfortunately. While I do think there’s a point to what you said about a personality clash, you’re doing it in a way where you’re kicking someone when they’re down for what? Because you have an opinion and need better material to read? You suddenly decided NOW is the time to complain about this being focused on… Read more »

Zaiborg
Zaiborg

Yeah, my Mummy taught me if you’ve got nothing nice to say, say nothing at all!

david5379
david5379

the issue here, its seems, is ad over here has probably not been keeping up with 12hv for long and has only read her comments and posts at face value, while the rest of us have experienced 12hvs depth and what not, and know the extent to which she deserves to be trusted as far as what she is perceiving and judging the situation to be, you just assume her recent complaints are all there is to her, yes, it is possible, from your limited perspective, that 12hv is in the wrong, and is actually oblivious and blah blah blah,… Read more »

N&P
N&P

And yet you still manage to get it so wrong *eyeball roll* Your entire response is based on assumptions. Even though it’s directed at Analysed I have to say that from my perspective, nothing you said was accurate at all. Your amateurish attempts at witty reply (especially the painfully childish attempt to take on Helter Skelter in a previous post) are lame and lacklustre. 10 points for trying though! No doubt this will descend into a ‘fuq off’ fest. All I want to say is not every negative comment expressed here is designed to attack. Sometimes the truth hurts but… Read more »

david5379
david5379

I dunno who helter skelter is, if your talking about that one anon, it was aqueloscorp, so, its more than just a random anon thing, it has to do with this other time way back, it was kind of lame, and I admitted that later, maybe I was assuming, but im probably not wrong, perhaps what ad said could lead to valid points, but where it was coming from was very clearly a shallow face value take of what 12hv has been putting lately, if someone else made these valid points elsewhere, it would be fine, but it was a… Read more »

david5379
david5379

the way people say things, and their motivation is just as important as what is being said, to you, the point made was valid, to me, the thing behind it was, im rude, this is dumb, to me, thats invalid, I was being lame about sure, but its true

Ainslie
Ainslie

Sort the constipation ASAP!!! Or you will have a period from hell… No doubt it’s why it’s late. Virgo’s not eating properly.. No such thing : ) what’s going on? What are you holding onto.
Your story is disjointed like your honey.. What are you not getting?
Apperients you can buy from the chemist. 4 liters of h20 at least. Exercise.. And drop the carbs.. Something is like concrete in there no doubt one of the reasons your living in hell. Goodluck.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Actually, the period came early.

What am I holding back? I don’t know. I am shocked, as I mentioned before, about how many childhood fears/memories this all has shaken in me. I suppose I am healing because its safe enough for it all to surface now.

GemCrab
GemCrab

12HV, I think you’re doing the best that you can in looking for another job. It sounds like this place, one way or the other, is not the place for you.

Keep doing what you’re doing and see how things go come Monday but it sounds like you’ve been increasingly happy at this place as of late and I think everything will workout for the best

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks, GemCrab.

Pi
Pi

Hey 12hv, sorry to read about this work schemozzle. other than the helpful comments here, my attitude would be – once you’ve collected severance pay and whatever other entitlements you have – would be fuq ’em, who needs to fight for the right to work with a bunch of assholes? There are better roles out there. work and humanity may suck at times. but you’re bigger than that. shoulders back, smile, listen to some loud music, rock up on monday ready for anything. sometimes it really throws the haters to plaster a giant smile on your face and act like… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I suspect they won’t fire me. That would be too easy.

I was SOOOO scared when I sent MM the email. But…I’ve crunched my numbers. I faced my fears. And I have the resources to get through this. I will be smiling and looking great in the office tomorrow.

Anonymous
Anonymous

good luck babe.

Porkchop
Porkchop

best of luck with your work situation, 12th house virgo!!!!!!!!!!! i’m an introverted data analyst and it is tricky… there does seem to be a ceiling that you reach at work if you don’t want to be one of those people that spends all day in pointless meetings or if you don’t want to manage staff. i just want to do challenging work, damnit! i had a performance review last week, and it went well. my boss and i were talking about future avenues for me and my boss said that he wants me to start going to more meetings,… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I agree! I WANT to learn how to do better with those roles because I can’t have my concepts created or create on behalf of the end users if I can’t communicate effectively. If I didn’t think it was important to confront my fear/weakness, I would have left my laptop at the office on Friday. I am sure this is all part of my Pluto-square-Mercury transit. I don’t want to be stuffed in a corner crunching data or spend my life in my own, lonely comfort zone.

fabby
fabby

12HV,

Evolve or evaporate.

You evolve.
They will evaporate.

Remember Zap Zone protocal – don’t cling onto organisations or any old paradigms.

You are your own boss, like you always have been. We have the best planetary alignment to finally ACT as our own boss.

Go nuts. Do your thing. Eff them.

Toxic work environment cause prematures deaths (I just made that up) but it isn’t the biggest lie is it..

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks. Its 7pm on Sunday where I am. I am going to read this when I get to work in the morning.

Gren
Gren

It’s 7pm here too! 😉

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I think you’re a DC local, no?

Gren
Gren

nah about 500 miles dead west of ya.

Gren
Gren

I feel for you 12HV. I have natal Mars and Merc in 12H both in Aries! Just wanted to get this out because I have been dealing with it indirectly and directly over the years. It seems as if the sparkle on the paper plus being able to sell yourself gets more rewarded than having that immense work ethic and being able to thrive under pressure. My issues with HR stem from non-profit orgs that are bureaucratic and outdated. Hang in there, I think any 12 house placement is a blanket over the fire, and can be a challenge when… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks, when I speak up for myself they say I talk too much. Ridiculous. I think my Mars in Libra is way more direct when I am defending someone else.

HR is either a genius who is over dramatizing the situation to get me to light a match to all their crap being as I am the 12th house – the subconscious – of the place. They have a habit of firing their subconscious personality repeatedly. Or, she is a bully at risk of legal action. Time will tell.

Gren
Gren

Or stay as long as you can put up with this squirrel fandango and take some clients with you while getting paid. I know you’re looking for new places to work so maybe even try to turn one or two deceptively or discreetly in your favor. Not sure where your pluto is though. MIght be devilishly fun.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

My natal Pluto is at 6 Libra and conjunct my Mars (0 Libra) and Mercury (11) . Transiting Pluto is in my 4th house squaring it all. I bought Pluto juice finally. Don’t know what else I can do with my Pluto.

My AC is 26 Virgo, so Mars conjuncts it. People think I am pissed all the time. I’ve heard it my whole life. I feel stuck by that.

Gren
Gren

I got pluto at 22 deg Libra opposite my Mars and Merc. and transitting capricorn in the 9th house so I’m all fired up about my self worth – fabulous, plus challenging the established norms. What’s been helping me is a lot lot of intense non stop cardio. Too tired to think after cardio.

haha my Mars conjucts my AS in Taurus so yah, I get the why R U so Serious/Serial?

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks for posting this Mystic. Looking forward to my 5F report. Thanks for the comments and support everyone. I can’t enjoy my career by staying in the job I’ve got. I have to make it somehow, but have no idea how. I didn’t realize how bullied and ignored I felt in the office, and they made me confront that. So, in that sense, they did me a huge favor. Now that the cats out of the bag on that one. What’s been seen can’t be unseen. Mystic – your dailies are great. Thank you. I will not misrepresent or compromise… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I feel like such a fool. I found an employer who treats me like my Dad did. Break pattern, break!!!

suzi
suzi

There you have it … you’ve broken the pattern already … just by acknowledging it.

Now you can move towards your next venture… off you go 🙂

And good luck … you’ve got some more experience up your sleeve now … and you know how you DON’T want to be treated.

There is no going back!

Libra who has been there.
Libra who has been there.

I totally understand. I was bullied by a Virgo boss for years, who told me at one point that “she was a virgo, and was just like that.” She used to bully me over typos, which was crazy because she made them all the time. She has been through many employees since. She couldn’t believe I was a libra, and implied I had something sinister in my chart. I have always been very cordial with people, but i wasnt fake nice enough like she is to everyone. She followed astrology, but clearly had a very limited view of what it… Read more »

Seabird
Seabird

And this is where you find your power – when you realise that the people who piss you off, the people who ruin your day, your week, your life – are actually your best friends, gurus, mentors and personal Buddhas because they teach you what you need to know. Don’t tell them to suck your non-existent dique, thank them sincerely for helping you to see the truth. Then leave and become famous.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

🙂

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

then tell ’em to suck it! 😉

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes seabird and if famous dosnt interest, free and happy is a good option : )

pegasus
pegasus

12th you are too scary for them, too honest, radical & strong. Too many negative subliminal currents are imploding onto you. Saw a saying once ‘be as good as you possibley can-without arousing suspicion or jealousy’. How apt is that. What Zai said about ‘being on hold-we’ll get back to you-playing games because we can’. Have applied for compensation about my assault & resulting costs involved that my lawyer advised with victims of crime. Six emails, 2 personal visits, 2 telephone calls over the last 6 weeks to both in total. Answer ‘we’ll get back to you’. The peeps that… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks, Pegs. I have been doing so much inner work and gotten to the point that I realize I MUST find ways to partner with people to have my radical, visionary ideas realized. So, the idea of trying to do everything on my own – I have to temper it with finding the right partners. And I feel so stuck on that. Like I should be getting it but am not. Deep breaths.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

You work with morons. I’m afraid the only cure is working somewhere where you are appreciated!

RA
RA

++

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

My self-esteem is in the toilet on that one. But I know you are right.

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

i know this wont help you now, but i started working on my self esteem about 15ish yrs ago. what helped was that i kept a secret journal where when people wrote or said genuinely nice AND truthful things about me, i entered that data. i only look at the book when im feeling down but it’s amazing how often we forget how awesome we can be but we entrench in our memories that one time we failed! i forgot about all the cool shit i had done….

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

That’s a great idea. I don’t fret over my success, that’s for sure. But my failures…MAN…I spent a lot of energy on those.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

12th House Virgo… this pisses me off. Do they have performance reviews? Is this a type of business where they know they can rid of you whenever they want? To me sounds like they are intimiated by you by appearance. What I mean by that, because I am a virgo and business is very important to me, is that our facial expressions appear as we are in disgust when in fact we are worried about the company. Well, I am saying this because that is what I am worried about right now. As a virgo we are intense perfectists (hence… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thank you.

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

I feel for you 12th House V, a toxic work environment where our quiet talents are not appreciated is like a living hell. I spent 10yrs with a company as Quality Control (Very Virgoan) and was nearly crushed by the pressure (and an unhappy marriage…) I was able to take my long service leave and had the space to look for something in my field (fashion design…..Brisbane is not the epicentre that is true….) that suited me and paid me 10G more a year. That happened this time last year and I am in a much stronger place. I really… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks for sharing your happy ending with me. Your career switch sounds dramatic – I bet that freed up a lot of creative energy for you!

I do so want to be the golden resource. I need to stop that wanting and just be present.

Double Happiness
Double Happiness

We all have our fingers crossed for you!!

anon Virgo
anon Virgo

As a fellow Virgo (Sun and Rising), I can say that hell hath no fury like a Virgo who’s just realized her Olympian work ethic has been taken for granted. Borrow one of Aaron Sorkin’s one-liners and tell your boss, “You better lawyer up, asshole,” while strutting your way out the door, head held high, like the Virgo class act you are. Screw ’em. They can’t handle Virgo perfectionism? Tell them to go hire an Aquarius and see how they like it.

Aquarium
Aquarium

Jeez Louise !!…. ease up?

I mean I’ve got a bunch of stuff in Virgo myself but I reckon most good Aquas focus on their inner Virgo to get real outcomes.. 🙂

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Hey the Aqua at my workplace does his inner and outer Aqua so well everyone can feel that his ‘eccentric’ is the new normal. His Fixity came up hard against the early Zapping, and you should see him now, moving at the speed of a lightning bolt. If he doesn’t make sense to you, you just know you’re not trying to think properly. His logic is implacable, and his call for revolution is client focused and for the greater good of the workplace. I learn so much from him, i feel he’s an unofficial mentor. The Virgos at work are… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Ha, ha! My boss is Aquarius. They have loads of ’em.

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

some aquas are like workaholics! some like bums. just depends. one of my buds had an aqua boss and he would get on everybody’s facebook and announce a prize if people could guess which sport team would win. and when someone presented him with the right answer he publicly verbally chastised that person for spending too much time on facebook and sports, not enough time on work. lol! i swear capricorn bosses seem easy going and predictable all of a sudden…. i guess you read aqua scopes too. i know i read the scopes of all my coworkers and when… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

My boss is like that – he will disagree with someone and then within a few sentences propose the idea he disagreed with.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

So it’s probably too late to give you tips for dealing with an Aqua boss, but a key way to get them on your side is to break rules that they propose. But you can’t just break any rule. It’s got to be a rule that the boss secretly thinks is “stupid” but he/she can’t disagree with out in the open, but you manage to finagle so that it works for the company advantage. They lap that up like peanut butter.

but your boss really does sound hopeless if he/she can’t see how awesome you are.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

If rule breaking is a way to win them over perhaps he secretly adores me. 🙂

12th House Hoyden
12th House Hoyden

Some workplaces DO have these large red signs up, but they’re not written or printed. These are toxic environments. Unless something major occurs, we’re never quite sure whether we saw the big red sign or just imagined it. And until something major occurs, we’re assailed by this feeling we are not doing something right, yet noone can tell us what it is, if you’re courageous enough to ask for feedback on your work, or even your interoffice politics management. This happens when management operates from a deep place of fear, are untrained in the human skills and have little drive… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thank you. Good luck to you too. The invisible sign – yes! I feel like an idiot savant because I just don’t get it.

I suppose it is a relief to know how clearly I don’t fit.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Also, thank you for the article. It does resonate. My Pluto square Mercury transit is exact on the day of the full moon. Hoping to manage my compulsion in the form of not telling them to suck my dick (I don’t have one) and giving everyone the finger as I throw shit at them on my way out. Going for classy 🙂

12th House Hoyden
12th House Hoyden

No, ma’am, you DO very much get the subliminal sign, and realise the sign is idiotic. It may well be that your recent soul searching about how to interact better with others is a good thing for you, but it ain’t never gonna bear the fruit of your Virgoan 12th house wisdom in this workplace. At work, it is not just what we deliver but how we deliver it that counts. The office that hired you in all your glory should have supported you in delivering your best. It was in their best interest as a company. May you rise,… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thank you. I would so love for them to embrace my talents. It hurt that they didn’t because I am extraordinary at pulling out hidden patterns. I thought a company that sells that service may appreciate the ability in one of its own (another point I made in my manifesto to them). But my job here is to honor my talents. I don’t see how I can stay where I know I’ve been seen and devalued.

Gren
Gren

Right, list that next to the other unmentionable topics to not discuss at work. Sometimes being all deep at the workplace is not the best MO to assume…especially when dealing with trite and incongruent coworkers or bosses. Better just play dumb and pretend you give a shit.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Oh 12th house hoyden you’ve said it how it is….

Bjossa
Bjossa

What a bunch of assholes! Sounds bizarre enough that it could be the universe trying to literally shove you away from something lame into something way better. I know it’s hard not to take it personal, but try to remember that they’re the ones with issues. Rash, impulsive, no tact. WAY horrible to scare you like that. Discipline you (for what even?) or fire you but this whole fear schtick is total b.s. Yikes! Good luck and I hope this creates an even better opportunity for you.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks. I honestly wonder – what is the right job for a Plutoic Virgo? Sure, they are assholes. But…even on astro gaga things when Mystic asks people to place Virgos in an org or some such thing – everyone thinks administrative or support roles and not creative visionary. I have too many Libra planets to survive on a secretary salary. 🙂

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Look we even get stereotyping here, as it’s kind of unavoidable (a) on a blog with little ‘essay’ space and (b) shorthand symbolic use of signs, as well as (c) the fact that when people are pissed off and emotional about their own personal experiences of Sun Sign X and Mars Y and Venus Z, it’s hard to frame your comments wisely and compassionately about a larger world you haven’t directly experienced. Virgos are people too! You find them in many, many spheres of work at many, many levels. Hell, you’ll even find Pisceans in admin and accounting. I’m also… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I feel like the reminders of jobs past popping into my life have been that – pointing out past crunch points. And I look back at what happened then – I moved on and avoided working the relationship out. That’s what it is….2 or 3 years into a job is when the intimacy issues come out and I get the shaft or evade. Its a pattern. And I want to break it. But I have NO idea how. My NN is in my 3rd house Sag. I don’t know how to communicate with others at that level. I am filling… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

i think this may be a clue to the way out. your sn is probably beginning to feel the effects of jupiter. gemini, like virgo, has a tendency to overanalyze. brilliantly, i might add- your analytical skills are obviously not in question. 😉 but perhaps in this situation you want to do jupiter, not mercury. you have told me so many times to do my nn. 🙂 🙂 🙂 you’re getting crisis before the delicious ping on the nodes for a reason. broaden your horizon, maybe. think bigger than you normally would. travel. maybe you are destined to move to… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thinking of a trip to Spain I have been promising myself forever.

I never connected my chart ruler as ruler of my SN too. Thanks.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

you never noticed that before? ah, the blind spots of the quicksilver mind. it just seems like with your mercury so under stress it is helpful to see who can come to its aid. yes, do your jupiter! spain sounds lovely. maybe time it so you go when the nodal axis gets hit up. and also of course there is the jupiter-law association. if all fails you are supported in that route. xoxo

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Soon Jupiter will be in my 10th and I’ll be under a Uranus opposing Mercury transit, so I think now is my time to travel before crunch time begins.

Funny isn’t it? How blind we all can be about ourselves. We need each other to see our backs, quite literally.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

Plutonic Virgo here and I excel at admin but refuse to play the ass-kissing games either. Start your own business. Virgos makes great leaders as well. Joan Jett is also a Virgo and you don’t see her in an office but kicking butt onstage!

david5379
david5379

I think they’re crazy, OBviously
i think the synchronicity with running into former work colleagues probably means things will work out, good luck 12hv

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

xo

quintile
quintile

agreed – nice omens and reminders of life beyond the current workplace hell :0

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

Oh no! 12th house Virgo! I agree with anon above and davidl. Workplace politics trumps all! And, assuming you live in Aus and aren’t a contractor, you should definitely get legal advice… Even if all it amounts to is a large redundancy package to get you out of their hair and keep you afloat while you look for something WAY BETTER!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks! I’m in the US actually.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Personally I would line up a lawyer. It is sounding like an illegal termination to me. If your work is perfect then they have no grounds for dismissal. Also you have to have 3 written warnings. Sue them and get the hell out of there ASAP. Life is too short to put up with crap like that. (sorry to use that wrod given your current state). Also a Virgo friend of mine is doing it real tough at the moment at well. Hand in there. The universe has has a plan for you. You deserve better.

Anonymous
Anonymous

should have checked spelling….hang in there and word. Anyway best of luck.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks! I suppose technically I am not fired yet and they have never given me any written warnings. I wonder if they will give me a dunce cap and sit me in a corner or what. I’m not a very good fool.

Anonymous
Anonymous

That is what I LOVE about you virgos. You don’t suffer fools nor play the fool. Never dumb yourself down for anyone.

Zaiborg
Zaiborg

I’m finding there is a definite “on hold/we’ll get back to you/we are fuqing with you because we can” vibe about for sure – like we are being forced to be good little girls and boys… or else.
I know for me personally it’s very important for me to take it on the chin and appear to be towing the line and be all yes sir/no sir – ugh, but my long term goals require I keep my cool.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I suspect it all a bit of a drama scene to make me be a good girl and, ugh, that’s hard because they are such unfair “rulers.”

Zaiborg
Zaiborg

More like oppressive DICK-tators…
Hope it all works out for you, hugs.
xo

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes zaiborg I agree, it is very like, ooh here, back to fucking w u… Now how does your heart feel that its been torn again!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Into a soul free from all thought and emotion – not even the tiger finds room to sink its fierce claws.
😉

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

🙂

davidl
davidl

Hi 12hv, I’ve been following your comments re your work with interest over the last few weeks. What I’ve gathered (and tell me if in wrong) is that although your work is of the highest quality your ability to ‘sell’ that work has been questioned by clients and your superiors. What this is saying to me is that the culture in this organization is possibly more focussed on ‘the sizzle’ than ‘the steak’ ? If that’s the case then your better off finding work where people appreciate the actual work more than the way it is sold. The reality of… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

I second all of this!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thank you! You’re absolutely right! I sent them a note warning them of becoming a one personality shop. No evolution that way.

I can’t see the path open in front of me. As nice as it is to think I can go out on my own, I’d have no healthcare and I would still suck at selling my work. I tried freelance from 2004-2007. End-up being a tax liability more than a source of income.

I did request tea with a nice woman who is a freelance analyst to see how she sells and finds new clients.

quintile
quintile

bless you darling 12HV – sounds totally exhausting and horrible – yes, get lots of good and nice advice about your area. I don’t know exactly what you do so cannot be more specific. I used to rub people up the wrong way in close work environments (4 planets in virgo inc sun) but by managing my phsyiology and being more forgiving of myself, I became a better colleague over the years. hard when you’re surrounded by morans, idiots and underdeveloped psyches lol

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I am an information architect, user experience designer, knowledge management specialist and user researcher. I hate job titles in my field. They don’t make any sense. But I do have passion for my job. I argue for the rights of end users everywhere – everyone deserves a system or interface that reflects their needs. Lots of businesses get zapped by what I do. Lots of people get emotional and freaked by what I propose. But…its what I am great at and my Mars in Libra loves the big challenge. I just don’t see how I can do the hard, heavy… Read more »

davidl@
davidl@

I do similar work 12. I design business systems and know how hard interface design can be with clients. It’s so subjective. What you need to do is get one good contract that will see you through. Pick your client carefully. Thats how I started, one client, all else springs from that. People don’t really understand how hard user interface design is. My apps now run on, Mac, windows, iPad, iPhone, intranets and internets. Each device renders differently, and are used by all sorts of people. It’s a fuqing nightmare at times. The way it works for me is, trust… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You’re such an Aries, :-). I’m so Chiron-in-Aries.

quintile
quintile

fantastic – perfect for virgo strengths – I work in similar areas and also manage my Mars in libra – defo agree these jobs can challenge peoples’ ideas, especially where they are illogical and anecdotal 🙂

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

Out of curiosity do you know any of there signs? Is there a pattern? The HR person sucks at her/his job.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

their!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Funny enough – we are being pressured to do timesheets and as a joke (?), the COO sent out a note requesting our phone numbers and astro signs. (This is how HR was able to make her Virgo quip to me). I noticed a plethora of Geminis.

Seabird
Seabird

What a great comment, David! And so on the money. If HR is looking at you oddly, it means you don’t fit the culture. f your work is top-notch but you feel like you’re lost at sea – time to go solo. Do it! Do it!

Don’t smoke over it – take yourself out to dinner and make a PLAN – starting with the graceful exit and finishing with your own business!

Best of luck!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Hmmm…I am in the mood for hibachi. Thanks for giving me permission to treat myself 🙂

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Hey 12th house Virgo … I’m with David (and most other folks) … this is not the right environment for you. No point in mud slinging about who is in the wrong, just accept this is the way they are. Empower yourself by making the choice to move on rather than being forcibly moved and humiliated. It shouldn’t be too difficult to turn that high powered analytical brain onto the situation at hand and see that they way to move forward is to leave and open yourself to new opportunities. What’s the point of health care benefits if you work… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Why does it seem “they” are not listening to me?

A god jar…maybe that’s what’s missing.

Also, congrats on your success! I know how draining it can be to work from home. Having an office space sounds like it really opened things up for you.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Usually “they” seem to not be listening to me because I am still stuck in my ego trying to control the situation and demanding that the universe “helps” me control stuff better. Or win the argument. Or be “in the right”. Or a myriad of other ego feeding propositions … Doesn’t work that way. When I go to “them” open handed and honest and say something like “right well this is as far I’ve managed to get by myself with my own resources – and I acknowledge that it’s basically fucked. So could you please help me see the truth,… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thanks. I will try not to try 🙂

Three months you say? I must get a god jar

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Less than 3 months … it all started to go nuts a few weeks after I did the “handing over” ceremony. 😉

Often it helps me to help someone else or do some humbling tasks to aid in the letting go stuff. Focusing on something other than myself and my problems works a treat. It also keeps me open to energy flowing from sources other than myself.

Be prepped to notice an influx of synchronicity, as well as curiously coincidental meetings and conversations as this unfolds.

If it helps … pray. 😉

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You’re brilliant, Prowln.

I thought I gave it all over already. Pluto transits are hard. Been under Pluto transits for ages. Pluto doesn’t reward like Saturn. It digs up more.

I feel bad about taking up so much space with my problems on the blog here and in my own mind. Then, I feel bad for feeling bad. Low-Virgo spin.

I give up. I have no choice but to give up.

When I was going through my Pluto-square-Mars transit, I was the most raw and authentic I’d ever been. Now, I’m afraid. I’m going against myself here. I have to give up.

wildwood
wildwood

Don’t feel bad about “taking up space” with your problems here – I’ve been reading all the comments and thinking about my own situation and the rut I’m in, and how I might get out of it… Reading about someone else’s stuff and the solutions lovely people here put forward helps everyone – even if it’s just knowing that everyone finds life confusing and difficult! I agree with everyone above though – toxic work environments are horrible, and i’m sure whatever you move onto next will have to be better. i also heard recently that being unemployed is less mentally… Read more »

Star inspired
Star inspired

Good on ya Prowlncrab… & Congrats! xox

That God Jar/box works a treat, doesn’t it!? ; )

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Wow! This is the one of the oddest HR department I’ve read about. Keep your head high 12th H Virgo, Sun can’t be covered with mud. Line up your interviews, Mystic is right, Merc Rx or not, Zap Zone reigns.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I don’t want to poor-me about it, but 12th house sun is pretty good at being covered by mud. Maybe this full moon is the magic light I need to get out from under the darkness. xo

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

That’s bizzare, Good luck with it, Virgo. Perhaps these people are fuqwits and if you end up leaving, it will be for greener pastures and better opportunities. They sound crappy. Fancy not wanting to maximise your strengths. Yeah, the “star sign” quip sounds discriminatory–if you substituted “star sign” with “ethnicity”, “skin colour” or “hair colour” people would be up in arms. The ‘thinking in the hallways” implication is weird…how exactly do you imply this? And what does it mean? Surely thinking is a good thing? And what does it matter where one does it? Is there a large red sign… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

The thinking in the hallways was from HR who said she noticed me in the hallways looking like I am “stuck in my mind” and that I look unapproachable. She said I need to find a technique to ground out, that its my problem, and that the company won’t provide any support.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Sorry 12th V.. keep on walking. That is bullshit. Any company that does not develop their employees is screwed. Any you know I had to say this but I think your boss has been bad mouthing you for a while now. Why would a client call to see about having you removed and it being done! Or maybe the client never said it and they are using that as an excuse. Grrrr… Fuq em!!

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

I am on the hoochie juice right now.. typos.. Line after “screwed” should say: [And] you know I [hate] … [hiccup}.. sorry! xo!!

david5379
david5379

WHAT, thats insane, im sure your not rude or outright grumpy or snappy(im sure plenty of workplaces put up with people like that anyways), you cant be fired or doced or reprimanded for a vibe, what the hell is that? Thats, just, crazy. That they are even capable of that means it will be the best thing ever if you leave and find something better. You cant control personality, geez, I bet a lot of your co workers have traits and problems that outright hinder the company and cause unnecessary problems, but a, I dont like what I think you… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

This world favors the arrogant extrovert, my employer included. Everyone in there is expect to be a sales guy. I seriously don’t know any work environments that provide creative challenges and are introvert friendly.

david5379
david5379

man,if being introverted and depth oriented is wrong, I dont want to be right, what a sad shallow plagued world they probably live in, if they were really that bad, they might have been toxic for your soul, im not even kidding, thats like a thing, people really can bring you down, and now that your trying to grow I guess they just passed the point of being able to handle it

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

“if being introverted and depth oriented is wrong, I dont want to be right” LOL!

If only someone could make that into a song…perhaps Fred Armistead…

david5379
david5379

haha, that would probably be pretty funny 🙂

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

agreed. Esp. in the corporate office world.
This is an American problem too.
I prefer friendly introverts any day over big loud-mouthed “know-it all” losers.

moved on
moved on

Hmmm. Sounds like my boss in 2005. Apparently she complained she just couldn’t “get” me and as a psychologist this obviously drove her mad! When you don’t fit into their predesigned box with your name on it they can’t cope because they can’t get a handle on how to control you – so now they are transferring their sense of unease back to you. Run, as fast and as hard as you can before they set about destroying you with mind games.

aqua lion
aqua lion

HR people are often a special breed with their own power plays going on…. any boss who is dictated to by their HR department rather than going to the people who ACTUALLY benefit from your work and/or work with you, is a total moron. I hope that this is just the universe sizzling a little bridge away behind you, so that you can go straight on the path you are meant to be on. Now if/when something opens up for you, no regrets whatsoever about leaving these turds. Go Virgo Power!!! We’ve all had bumps in the road, they suck,… Read more »

bluesky
bluesky

Sorry, 12th house! How silly!!! Whatever the issue is, your employer is obfuscating the facts. Or, if those are the real facts, then you are best off leaving (even if it’s a pain to find to new work). Jupiter is expanding your view of authority issues and lifting you away like the hot air balloon in wizard of oz. Presumably to somewhere more safe and sound. Bon voyage and don’t mourn the dull (thinking in the hallways…mutter, mutter…it’s like something from Roald Dahl).

Perspectives
Perspectives

Totally bizarre and so wrong. Time for you to know for sure that it is totally wrong too. Shame on HR peep for quipping re your star sign and how you look in the hallway. But you….wot a fabo opp to grab this crap and turn it to your favour. Get clued up and insightful on your rights – you are still employed.. Become the super sleuth that you deserve to be. Use mercury retrograde to investigate, research and learn up, The info will come flowing once you start looking. Get wise to all the Industrial Relations Laws, know your… Read more »

Susan
Susan

I sympathize. I just got fied this week by a boss who told me she has a “love/hate” relationship with Virgos. I almost fell off my chair in shock as this seemd so discriminatory and also ridiculous. However, when I asked her what is it she “hates” about Virgos, at least she was honest to say they are too independent and free-thinking. In other words, she’s a control freak and can’t seem to control this Virgo who would ismply preferred to be well managed. So…better days ahead I’m sure. It can’t be good to be around people like this and… Read more »

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