Venusian Voodoo Debrief Station

Filed in Venus

Hey Guys – SO subscribers i hope you are staying au fait with the fuqing Venusian Voodoo all over the sky at the mo? Venus is aspecting everything – it’s cathartic as hell, very interesting.

And depending where you’re at, this could help to evoke the mother of all Love Zombie benders, total genius epic eureka o.m.g breakthrough flashes about all your relationships ever and/or a fantastic encounter. The big deal with this one is, i think, clarity. Clear as a bell.

Speaking of Love Zombies – see here for a tres contemporary Love Zombie saga, proving perfectly my thesis that it strikes people low and high, thick as a brick and extremely smart.Β  The Feminist & the Cowboy. Hmm. I think that and the Lindsay Lohan NYT piece i tweeted the other day are the best reads of this week.

Anyway, please debrief here on where you’re at with the Venusian Voodoo – Venus aspecting Uranus, Pluto, Neptune, Chiron, Jupiter and Saturn. It really helps to bring the Zap Zone into everyday focus. Like, in a sensual way. Sort of.Β  Plus some random crazy bats asteroids are being hit on by Venus. Please don’t ask me to throw asteroid Gary into the mix lol.

Oh and funny Love Zombie story: i was talking to someone VERY successful, amazing and cool who confessed that once when she was a Love Zombie, she stalked a real estate agent she’d been dating, showing up at his open houses in full glam mode etc. I can SO see this is as a scene.

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Image: Alain Delon – Scorpio, Libra Rising.

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calypso
calypso

yes. the boys return….and the dialogue is sexy πŸ™‚

Geminian
Geminian

Defs in a Venusian poodoo phase. Have a mantra though, there is no point in thinking about what I don’t have anymore (which in truth was pretty merde) and am now thinking towards what I do want to have. Made a list, did include a request for a sort of Mr Darcy type, but figure, why not? Guess it’s a process of self worth when all is said and done. Happy to fix the machine before heading out into dating land again, but there will be no on-line dating sites, nor will there ever be, just want to get real.… Read more »

Geminian
Geminian

Btw also have Chiron also square my Sun/Mercury conjunct. It’s been a painful year to say the least on the relationship front. Time to get rid of the zombie within and become human again. Astrologers heal thy selves!

Jenny
Jenny

Hi Guys, I’m in total love zombie mode. Saturday night, broke up with my boyfriend, because I felt he wasn’t lusting for me enough, taxi’d to a 19 year olds, had a hot make-out session, and am not lusting again for my ex who just got into town, and is for some reason to busy to hang out? I have sent just a couple of emails, but it makes me feel a little coocoo even though I know I’m doing this a lot less coocoo then I have in the past. All in all I’m soo horny and I just… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

This pic has given a Love Zombie infection .. I need a booster immunization! Alain looks just like my ex here, except he has black hair and green eyes. Pisces Rising Saggo with Moon in Cancer. That guy had Jupiter-Lilith bang on my Sun, his Moon on my Venus which opposed his Mars, plus Neptune/Sun conjunction on my NN in the 7th House.

Now that is the synastry of Love Zombies!! (Did I mention my Hygeia exact conjunct his Chiron?)

Fi
Fi

hmmm well its venusian voodoo to the max round here. i mean, it’s not just the transiting venus voodoo, either. no, no. its transiting uranus conjunct my aries moon, and transiting saturn right on my 12th house scorpio lilith, nary a degree off my natal scorp venus, 3 degrees off my natal neptune, and 4 degrees off my natal ascendant. not to mention a whole lot of other shit to do with chiron et al which are right on my natal chiron and opposite my uranus pluto. the thing is, as for bloody love zombies, it ain’t moi, it’s the… Read more »

Veronica
Veronica

Yep, give it a go. Look at each other clearly in the here and now, and see where you are really at

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Epic clarity. A few images came to mind as I drifted into dream state the other day and the words: “You keep talking to me about things I never talked to you about.” That’s my relationship insight, and its massive. Its been really hard to sort out this whole psychic shit I’ve got going on since 2009. But just because I know something about someone, doesn’t mean they shared that with me. And the willing sharing – THAT’S real intimacy, not all the woo-woo shit. I’ve need time to sort that and the clarity was epic and needed. I had… Read more »

Sooky goo goo Virgo
Sooky goo goo Virgo

Venusian weirding Virgo style. I feel like I’m on heat. Like MM said in the dailies. I’ve had three guys crack on to me in the last 24 hours. I’m professionally celibate this is weird. Or per chance coming off the pill after 18 years could be engineering pheromones? Coincidence?

Pisces with Sagg Rising
Pisces with Sagg Rising

Um, look I think the term “love zombie” is a good and fun descriptor for that obsessive, denial behaviour we all indulge in at some stage when it comes to our (lack of?) love lives. However, I think using it in relation to an abusive relationship is completely out of line. The reasons someone stays in an abusive relationship are complex and has a lot to do with feeling ashamed (according to someone I knew who found herself in that situation) because they know they will be judged. Using the term “love zombie” in relation to this woman’s situation is… Read more »

juno
juno

Well, the astro IS intense, but for me the results so far have been intriguing, surprise good news re parent in care, uncovering of secrets in ex’s family of origin, a surprise pair of mad blue eyes (but heart-safe), and the possibility of just the right job offer coming up. Juno is conjunct Pluto, and I know it’s relationship status outrage plus or finally moving on. Wait and see.

juno
juno

I downloaded both the Cap and the Aqua scopes and they are just fabulous! Woot! Thanks Mystic πŸ™‚

gemyogi
gemyogi

WOW. Just read “the Feminist and the Cowboy” link. Scary stuff! I’ve been hating all that ‘the rules’, ‘submit to your man’, ‘feminism is unattractive and full of scary manhating lesbians’, ‘fifty shades of grey’ crapola for the past couple of years… such misogynistic, conservative BS.

Glad the author came clean about the abusive ‘cowboy’.

kazattack in scorpio
kazattack in scorpio

OMG. The venusian weirding has happened to me – a sex ( I meant to write set – what a slip!) of explicit images of my ex and his wife “renewing their relationship” was just made accessible to me on the “dating” site where we met.

Venusian voodoo? Or just plain pass-agg? Either way, low (and not attractive either).

I think I’m cured!

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

i’m convinced venus is seething at me. in a hell hath no fury way. it sounds crazy, and it probably is, but consider: last spring while in venusian love supreme, i would go out at night and venus would be hanging in the sky huger and brighter than i have ever seen her, by a magnitude of like 1000, and i swear, these huge energy waves, kundalini style, would come over me. i despise this word but if there was ever a “download” i experienced it with her. i loved her immensely, and maybe she loved me back. then i… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Just fishing for an opinion…what do you think has more influence on a mans behaviour in mating/dating Sun, venus or moon sign?

Pegasus
Pegasus

Mars.

Tropic of Scorp
Tropic of Scorp

great. NOT! πŸ™ I’m waiting for a Libra Mars man to take some action… Could be waitin’ a while *sigh*

Anonymous
Anonymous

So check out his Mars and then you will glean an insight?

Tropic of Scorp
Tropic of Scorp

yes! πŸ™‚

Tropic of Scorp
Tropic of Scorp

I wouldn’t overlook Venus or Moon though… or sun even. You have to look at the whole picture/chart. See what aspects he has to Moon/Venus/Mars.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Apparently Lance Armstrong just fessed up to cheating in an Oprah interview.

anoon
anoon

Oh, isn’t that standard form! Used to be Baw-baw Waw Waw (Barbara Walters to non-Americans), now it’s straight to Oprah for the public confessional.

Total attempt at PR triage.

Pegasus
Pegasus

The Feminist & the Cowboy? She described the Adonis ‘cept he wears the CAP, not the Akruba on his ultra short hair and he’s married which has always been verboten territory for me, even said he kinda reminded me of John Wayne.
The chiselled from marble features, movie star handsome beaming masculinity plus in a physical job.
Venus has blessed him. A Renovator/Restorer of buildings, ex pro footballer. Am totally smitten in a very controlled way as i know Sagg men love the chase.
Btw, one of my all time fave books was ‘Even Cowgirls get the Blues’!

aura jade
aura jade

Venusian weirding to the max. I’ve been dating a guy for nearly a month and it is spectacular, utterly amazing. He is perfect for me and i’m in love. its too cute right now. we are four years apart and totally compatible according to chinese horoscope, rabbit & sheep πŸ™‚

Pegasus
Pegasus

Brilliiant Disguise is my all time favourite BS.
Used to sing ‘bridge in the sky’ until corrected…lol but that works too, the corrector said πŸ™‚

Anony_Aus/Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Anony_Aus/Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

Stay strong! If he doesn’t want a relationship, he’s not the one. There is probably better for you out there anyway. Way better, mind-blowingly better, though you may not think it possible now.

That’s great–good friends are a great distraction.

This ex sounds like a bit of a pain. Funny how he reappears only when he needs help. If he’s not bleeding from the jugular, he’s not in urgent need of your help, and surely he met some other people between 2006 and now who can help him? And if they’re not willing to, why? Because he’s a right pain?

Little Fish
Little Fish

Thanks for your words of wisdom. The only clarity I have managed to gain from being with Mr Aqua this weekend is that he leans on me a lot emotionally and spiritually. I don’t think he opens up to anyone in the way he does with me. But ultimately, I have a lot of people in my life that help and support me and help me become a better person, not just him. So I know I’ll be ok in the long run… but right now, my heart is breaking all over again. And it’s odd about the Aries ex… Read more »

Anony_Aus/Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Anony_Aus/Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

Go girl, tell him how you feel!

Anony_Aus/Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Anony_Aus/Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

Wow, sounds like venusian voodoo to me!

leogroover
leogroover

Def qualifies with a bullet

Little Fish
Little Fish

My natal Venus in the 7th is at 29 degree Capricorn and I spent the weekend with my Aqua ex-who-is-not-quite-an-ex. I spent the past 3 months focusing on my career and getting over him and it was all wiped out in the space of 72 hours. We had the most amazing time together and it felt like how it used to be. Then he told me he misses me and that he loves me but that something holds him back from us being in a relationship. Of course, I’m back at square 1, wondering why we’re not together. It’s taking… Read more »

Sara
Sara

I have a very venus heavy chart – lots and lots of taurus and a little libra. I felt it straight away, and for me it has manifested in a total refusal to be compromised in the way I live my personal life. I am partnered with 2 children, together for 13 years. I spent the weekend cleaning out and re-ordering the little studio (seperate form the house) into an office (as well as finding and buying a gadget that allows me to get wireless over there), yoga space and sleeping area. There’s room for the kids, but no tv.… Read more »

Savannah
Savannah

Oh gawd yeah! When my kids were younger and maybe more so now I craved my own space. Hard in a houseful of males, so I would stay up an hour later just for the sheer peace! Good on u πŸ™‚ my mum had 7 kids she was the same, just for sanity!

leo-scorp grrrl
leo-scorp grrrl

Loving the current vibe with Pisces-Toro beau of about a year. Although, you warned us, Mystic, I was not expecting such voodoo. But, vodoo it was. There is other explanation. I am Currently looking at my to-do list before starting new job next week and trying to shake off the Dopamine lingering in my brain. Anyone not aware, look up dopamine and sex,. Your brain produces it and likely contributes to LZ tendencies. Keep in mind that if you are acting completely insane and stupid for a sex partner, some of the reason is the substance in your brain. (Or… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

I think you can’t be a zombie unless you feel “less” than the other person. All the hotness-charisma-wisdom- otherworldly charm-and amazing body-fat ratio of the other person become like a Holy Grail of appropriation….In my opinion, it is not so much some ill-conceived love or commitment or attention you are seeking, but the possession of the other person’s vital force/essence. You want to live vicariously through them.. The moment the realization hits you that YOU are as fascinating – if not more!- as the person you long for, is the moment you look and see him/her in startling clarity. And… Read more »

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

WOW!!!! So true as I am teetering between wanting approval from my LZ victim to moving towards the fascinating “me” that I should be! This is the new realization as of late. I am slowly and painful learning that I am awesome without him. LOL!!!! However, I don’t want to live vicariously thru him I am just looking for approval from him to say that I am “ok”.. when he is not qualified to do so! (wow.. I am getting better with this whole thing.. I think)

Thanks!! xo!!

Anonymous
Anonymous

What if I’m the one who is turning someone into being a LZ? Maybe not the best description, but there’s a guy who is really interested in me, and I am interested in him, but know there are problems (big problems, long story . . .). And I don’t feel like taking on his issues, even though I would be fine being a friend or even a FWB. But I have other interests, and I’m not going to give those up, so I feel like a Sadge right now, juggling these guys, being evasive so no one can really confront… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

So, what if you are?

I’m sure he will get on with his issues once he realizes you are playing him, if that’s what it is.

anoon
anoon

Every time the Oracle tells me I need to (re)start journalling, I KNOW it’s going to be a fraught week.

Urg.

Anonymous
Anonymous

“…it strikes people low and high, thick as a brick and extremely smart. The Feminist & the Cowboy. ”

I’ve come to believe that Love Zombiehood is a right of passage …..that if we don’t experience it at least once, we’re missing out on a massive growth/maturation phase and insight into human behavior. With the ability to spot from a great distance anyone who is in the grips of it .

The trick is to learn from it…otherwise, like all Zombies, it revisits us time and time again. And can even take up permanent residence!

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Like this!! I am trying to justify my LZing and although I always thought it was a passage for me to learn and grow I sometimes fall back and get involved in being a LZ again. Hence maybe a litle this w/e. I am trusting my gut response to things!

Thanks!! xo!!

Savannah
Savannah

Very wise. We develop our work, communication skills etc. with gusto so why not our relationship skills?

FLER
FLER

Oh ouch this weekend was intense. Attended a gay wedding party. My very persuasive lesbian friend set her intents on hooking me up with a girl. As this has been something I’ve been interested, my intensely boozed self ruminated on this to multiple friends at the party while I made up my mind what to do, then kissed her in the bathroom, went home with a cute guy who I’m kind of friends with who is going through a marriage breakup and is totally unavailable. Then had to cancel one of the two dates I had set up the next… Read more »

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

Ahhhhhhh, yes. When it rains it pours.

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Does this count? I’ve stopped wearing my wedding ring – no announcements, declarations or explanations – and I’ve noticed blokes checking me out! Only 48 hours but a definite shift. Maybe I’m just noticing more cos I’ve made the internal shift. It’s hardly voodoo, but fuq, it’s nice.

Pi
Pi

πŸ™‚

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

πŸ™‚ Open your arms, your new life is waiting for you πŸ™‚

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Yeah, that counts! Enjoy being you. xo

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Venusian weirding? Shit yeah. My gay Gem BFF flatmate is so jealous of my BF. Long long story but he can’t stop being a total bitch re my Libran Love (who is not lost now). Multi Gemini but Pisces rising and Kataka Moon/Mars like me 😯 Another realisation is my major loves have been Scorp/Libra combos – Current BF: Libra Sun/Pluto conj with Scorp Venus/Merc/Uranus conj (amongst other major connections, but for this post I’ll simplify); and Ex-Hb is multi Scorp with Libra Moon/Mars/Uranus. WTF?! Why have I not seen this pattern before? I am so in love with my… Read more »

Here I Virgo Again
Here I Virgo Again

Taurean platonic friend has just broken up with me on the grounds that I was wrong to introduce my new love-interest to him. Whhhaaaaattt?
Never been any doubt taurean and I were anything but platonic friends. He sat through a whole evening chatting as normal and then at the very moment of see you, goodbye…. a whole “you did me wrong” accusation came out.

Sorry mate, I just took you at your word. You know it too!
Ahhh well, that sorts the wheat from the chaff.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

A guy (i just can’t call him a man πŸ™‚ ) once cheated and it wasn’t that i had any inkling, i just noticed a few weird things at his place and in his behaviour and asked questions. He must have thought i knew and confessed, fully, openly and calmly. He said it was wrong and he didn’t want to do that to me, us, again. I was blown away by his candour. I looked past it and saw what i thought was a new adult level of maturity. I should have taken it at face value. It really just… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

fantastic last line mille x

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

can’t take credit – can’t recall who said it, either. But yes it’s very good.

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

I think it was Maya Angelou but I could be wrong

Superlibran
Superlibran

++ on the line, would’ve saved me a lot of heartache last year and half of 2010

PI
PI

it is. Maya Angelou. “The first time someone someone shows you who they are, believe them.”

PI
PI

obv only one ‘someone’

Trttropic of Scorp
Trttropic of Scorp

Someone X 2 = Pisces duality.:)

Pi
Pi

πŸ˜‰

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Yes – that last line is something I tell myself frequently.

Pi
Pi

Mystic I think you;’re right about the clarity vibe. This also helped by some lovely ‘kind’ answers from the Oracle. Helping me to focus, once again.. on what will serve me best. Regaining (inner and outer) strength thru rest, exercise, eating well, good sleep. Also checking the planets, a few are coupling up round the end of the week – Sun-Mercury in Cap, Venus-Pluto in Cap, Moon-Chiron in Pisces. Did I get that right? anyway, it’s all in my 7th and 8th houses. Slippy – wobbly moment re Ambivalent Leo coming and going but regaining internal balance thru oracle Q’s… Read more »

Pi
Pi

sun and merc will be on my moon too. good. shining some warm sunlight on expressing those close-played moon-in-cappy feelings.

Ms.
Ms.

is saturn in your 5th yet?

PI
PI

According to my sources, it’s 30′ away from the cusp. lol. maybe in a week? then 1 degree later it’s conjunct Uranus.

PI
PI

actually, this is interesting. more or less the weekend saturn transited into my 4th (on pluto), I had a major moment with my dad. it was very important. Alas the moment itself was heavy / sad and of consequence. maybe that was the pluto part as well. so with saturn entering 5th with Uranus and also squaring natal Saturn in my Leo 2nd… I can’t help but think it’s gonna be a dumping by the Ambivalent Leo (thus I remain as emotionally disengaged as possible), some kind of creative-project-related disciplinary breakthrough wherein I suddenly morph into Pisces-As-Machine and my Art… Read more »

PI
PI

or, – here’s me replying to myself again – since it’s a saturn square, and I have been mulling over that natal 2nd hous placement for a while now, could be me making some kind of Love And Self Respect Declaration Of Rights…particularly since it’s also sextile pluto transiting my 7th.

Ms.
Ms.

its going to be a lot more than that doll, but I noticed I broke off our friendship not quite ended bedspace and dying tentacles of a relationship with said Aqua the day of saturn going 5th. It’s been great/brutal/great for all things 5th. Creative and career is our main considering your uranus and our shared MC. the lovers will be like a small thing compared or being compared to the importance of creative manifestation and the time you waste on romance/sex if its at all like mine. xx

Pi
Pi

hmm. yes, I think I am ready for anything, to be honest.

I remember having a moment of clarity several weeks ago, re the Leo (who IS lovely – for the record) – I was wandering down Romance Lane in my mind and suddenly realised that I was spending all this time there, and thinking “it’s not just about him! It’s about your uni work, and health, right now.” So… perspective..

Pi
Pi

but yes definitely am feeling the creative and career track.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Nothing here.. This w/e was all about processing things and trying to fell better. I haven’t been feeling well. and.. still waiting to have the rug pulled from under my feet to know his new girl. I read so many coaching techniques about to get guys to commit, (that I will never be able to do) and how some guys say “I don’t want a commitment” then look he gets into a relationship, committed and then married. It just all boils down to me not being good enough.. which is fine with me. I haven’t learned that yet. So, it’s… Read more »

fishupsagg
fishupsagg

Hmmm, please move on from the not good enough statement. Quite possibly slip in a li’l not the right time/person/place and a hefty something better is up ahead. You are good enough. x

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

I know.. I have been thinking about my family this w/e as well (a.k.a for me as not being good enough for them) so I think I am putting everyone in the same bucket. I am just evaluating and detaching from my family. I don’t want to have anything to do with them right now. I will stay in touch with my parents but my brothers can just take a walk. Notice how I am putting all the important men in my life in this category. Weird… obviously I have still have some issues with the men in my life.… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Forget “good enough.” That’s all nonsense. Good enough to who? On what scale? There is none.

All those men and those relationships. They are all tied together. Once you pull your energy back from the Toro Gem and healing his inner child, you can give that energy to your own healing. Notice the old wounds, detach, let go. You are right on track!

gemyogi
gemyogi

“how some guys say β€œI don’t want a commitment” then look he gets into a relationship, committed and then married. It just all boils down to me not being good enough”

All this means is you weren’t right for each other. So it’s lucky they didn’t commit to you. I used to feel this way… he doesn’t love me because I’m not loveable, or “_____” enough, but it’s just low self esteem talking. Fuq that shit! Maybe he wasn’t ‘good enough’ for you Ellie! Or maybe you are too good, intelligent, honest for him!

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Hi GemYogi.. Yes, I have thought about that. I am not the typical girl he has gone out with. I do think I am very smart, adventurous and honest.. so for him I can see it doesn’t mesh with his ideals. Yesterday was an interesting day after reading all of these posts and really hitting home with how this guy relates to how my family has treated me. This toro/gem is like my family. I am slowly walking away from my family (big realization that I am comfortable with) that is making it easy for me to move farther away… Read more »

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Nothing to report. At least nothing Venus related. I keep hurting myself – last week I fell flat on icy pavement, the left knee is out of commission. Over the weekend I did something to my ear, now my left ear is shut down to the world.

The Scorp appeared over the weekend for a brief communication but the timing was so off, I don’t think he got what he was seeking. Oh well. Now this week’s to-do list needs my attention. .

Jac
Jac

Feeling a bit LZ-ish….obv. the new moon was at 21 deg Cap my Venus is at 21 deg Cap, so I took a risk and sent a πŸ™‚ message to a guy lust-thing (that I secretly kinda you know) but though that the ship had sailed and it was on like donkey kong – however the next day was not so cool – I have not heard from him – and I feel kinda crap at the moment. Not helped by the fact that ex A started messaging me last night after facebook stalking me and gave me the most… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

heavy

kazattack
kazattack

that’s why Ex B is back! he could feel the shift in energy when you let go….Ex A sounds abusive btw. And shit about the lust-thing for now but at least you got it on like Donkey Kong for a while, lol πŸ™‚

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yep it is all a bit weird and making my head frazzy.

Pi
Pi

hmm. my (uninformed, outsider’s) opinion is: distract yourself from worrying about donkey kong dude. maybe the ship had sailed and you both had a last hurrah thing? Ex A sounds like a DICK. fuq that shit right off. you = shining diamond, he = piece of slime. Ex B might be worth hearing out, but it’s your call. he’s the one who dropped the exit on you (it seems). Shields up, proton phasers at the ready. Heart strong and to thine own self be true. make him work, sounds like it’s the least he can do. If possible, go and… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yep definitely want to be vibing high, clear, strong energy, and more than just vibing it, I really want to be feeling it πŸ™‚

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

oh shit i HATE when they just buy a goddamn ticket rather than making it a mutual decision to see each other. Someone did that to me once – international flight, too – and i thought i had no option but to make space for him…until i realised he had ignored my countless requests for him not to come over. i was living in a culture where people do not cohabit unless married and i was very new in my job, working with some key players in the field. Very important for my career. i called him and made him… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

now that you mention it: true. the Neptunian toro did that to me too. Not exactly overseas ticket, but SO presumptuous that I had the time, space, energy, money to entertain / accommodate. It’s R.E.S.P.E.C.T that’s sexy, not that other “i’m going to ignore everything you’re saying and just barge in.”

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Demand respect. You deserve it.

The other night I made a wish list for a partner. I put something along the lines of “Is not afraid to acknowledge and address conflict or to apologize and admit being wrong.” Haven’t met that guy yet.

Never had someone make the airline gesture for me. But it seems too dramatic – like a way to jump over the problems rather than work through them. Don’t let that crap guilt you.

leogroover
leogroover

Thats happened to me JAc in that when I LZ I attract other LZ’s to me eeek! what is that?

Ms.
Ms.

Aqua ex gets back from Ny and is contacting me non stop about having a future for us. No.

Pi
Pi

jeezuz, fuq off already aqua dude, you had yer chance!

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

For a brief moment, I imagined Ms. sending this message verbatim, and the next image was an Aqua guy tumbling down off his chair while reading it πŸ™‚ Sorry, couldn’t help but giggle πŸ™‚

Ms.
Ms.

πŸ˜‰

Ms.
Ms.

I know, he cannot accept that there is a limit to how many times you can fuck up. I gave him what, 2 maybe 3 but I think 2 chances. he asked me if we can have tea together I told him he needs to get his life together first, esp after the shit he’s been sending me over the holidays.

He won’t attack me I think but he’s definitely going to stalk me and take no responsibility for his condition. A grade LZ.

Pi
Pi

sigh. Ms. hey, you gave it your best shot by the sound of things. big chaos-proof hugs. xx

Ms.
Ms.

thanks Pi.

I am doing that thing where you don’t want to hurt someone but you’re no ones gimp either. Honesty without the bitchy. See how we go… x

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Here’s hoping he takes the hint, Ms. Sounds like a pile of merde you really don’t need x

Ms.
Ms.

the thing is it’s not even about me, like most LZ it’s not about the person, you just happen to tap that raw nerve about their childhood/school/previous partner/hotness/aging/status anxiety or whtvs issues innocently or not so for some. He’s made me a poster for some incomplete part of himself only he can sort out that I can never fill and by trying I am only killing us both. Women are taught to have this ‘he will complete’ me shit with men and pin all their stupid hopes on a happy ever after whilst mindlessly not living their own lives. It’s… Read more »

Pi
Pi

yeah it’s crazy, not living one’s own life for the sake of romance. romance will bloom regardless imo, (i do sound a tad saturnised) then the bitterness and unfulfilment when (if) it all goes to shit. aim high, let em love you the way you are, the price of freedom (from love madness) is eternal vigilance!

Ms.
Ms.

I don’t mean to sound cold, the guy has been venomous and calculating but this is the ariel perspective. My life is no where near as glam as his so I’ve done 6 brutal weeks of work and watching him being an arsehole.Doing saturn girl hard right now but well worth it. I’ve got my own cracks to sort out. xx

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Ms… love this post!! So true. It’s not about us. It is about them and how they are dealing with their pain. We move on. Easy for me to say since I have signs of still LZing it.. but just saying you are so right! xo!!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

So much wisdom in what you shared right there. You can’t heal yourself or anyone else by pretending someone else is your fixer.

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

Keep up the wall of strength Ms.!! πŸ™‚

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Is there a setting on your phone to block his calls? I had to block someone once but at the time there wasn’t a setting; i called my provider and had it set up. In another instance, i renamed the number DON’T ANSWER, which helped when i saw the screen. It seemed less personal seeing that flash up – i just thought OK and pressed no answer button. i learned not to read messages but to instantly delete them. I had voicemail, and suffered when i retrieved my messages. I no longer have voicemail. Painful at times but less painful… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

Im not answering that’s the thing, he called out my voicemail last week. I do have a couple of items of his to give back so I will have to see him at some stage but NOT during my launch and not at my house. We broke up over the phone and it’s been 5 weeks since I have seen him due to international travel and his enormous ego. I can deal, I did the right thing with my break up time, he did not, he got trashed had sex with everyone and now misses me and wants to pretend… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

i’m glad you have your power. i know i used to find being stalked quite draining. Especially when i still cared, not loved, but cared. Go, your launch!

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

” I have the power here.”

Good for you. Stay Strong!

Luxor
Luxor

Currently bogged down by major clutter busting event- nearly there thank god .Don’t think I will ever collect junk again! In the midst of all this trying to resist major LZ episode. Said attraction gong along well with mutual admiration and daily communication – sort of getting back on track despite my surprising reluctance and keeping Cancerian at arm’s length . Then WTF out of the blue same woman turns up like last time and don’t know what’s happening.it’s like she has it on radar when we start getting close. Now am feeling really stupid – sucked in again. This… Read more »

La Faf
La Faf

I don’t have any advise unforch— as I’m going through the same thing as well! Sagg sun and Pisces Rising, too…. and trying terribly hard at keeping LZ at bay re: a Cancer as well…

WHAT IS GOING ON?!

Nic
Nic

Hooked up with a guy waaaaay younger than me and having the hottest sex of my life, not to mention the intelligent conversation and ridiculous amount of fun playing around. No strings as he’s travelling and won’t be around for longer than a month or two – he’ll break my heart when he leaves but I’m thoroughly enjoying the moment!

It’s a change of pace for me, I don’t do casual normally. I can’t figure out if I’m in denial or actually just having a good time.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Enjoy the good times say I! At least you know it’s a temporary thing and besides, you’ll be floating around for a while afterwards. The trick is not to go into LZ post-lover! Been there so I know…

Nic
Nic

I think it’s a really good lesson in accepting things for what they are instead of trying to manipulate the outcome. Avoiding the slip into becoming a love zombie is going to be challenging but I’m as prepared and aware as I’m ever going to be. What are your tactics for staying sane?

leogroover
leogroover

revist a past post here Nic that was about slogans for LZ . so funny but soo true

leogroover
leogroover

It was around 16th September. 2012 examples from peeps here
Don’t become the Loving Dead
LZ = Lust in space

AB FAB
AB FAB

SOMETHING REALLY SEXY ABOUT THAT PIC and those blue eyes. I keep staring at it, I think I’m turned on. Oh gawd.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

it’s the Scorpio gaze from Libran eyes, the patrician Scorpio nose with gentle Libran kiss and hand squeeze…

…oh just on a glance

Ms. Leo Noir A
Ms. Leo Noir A

Am I meant to be feeling something right now? Because all I’m rocking at the moment is a happy, solitary zen vibe, and have absolutely no desire to chase or be chased at the moment. If someone approached me right now I would roar at them until they ran away.

Libragal
Libragal

In coming silly question – when does the Venusian Voodoo end?

I’ve met someone knew, he is TOTALLY Attentive but I’m not feeling the “zing”. The attention is oh so ego busting.

I am waiting for all this just to go flat…..

If someone could please let me know.

Thanks heaps xo

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

I did it. I said “I love you”. OMG! I surprised myself probably as much as it surprised him. It was more of a surprise as to how good it felt to get those words out finally. Massive weight off my shoulders.

Capfire
Capfire

and how did he respond?

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

With questions and astonishment. And kisses. He didn’t say it back and I knew he wouldn’t even before the words came out of my mouth.

leogroover
leogroover

woohoo for you woohoo. isn’t it great to speak your truth? Keep faith in your heart

fallen angel
fallen angel

Feeling blah after being ill for over a week, suddenly I don’t seem to feel anything. I just want to cry over how much work I have, obviously this has to do with my own standards going on overdrive and the need to cuddle up with someone..the Noveau Leo was sick as well and moaning about wanting to come see me but fearing he may tire me out (he would if last time was anything to go by) so we’d tentatively set things for the coming week. I thought he was clearing out, no wait, that’s the CCW yet AGAIN.… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

or your virgo rising..

Pi
Pi

oooo, nouveau Leo… get well soon FA πŸ™‚

leogroover
leogroover

Take care Angel darling

RachΓ© (Aqua/Tauri)
RachΓ© (Aqua/Tauri)

Ex wants me to accompany him to a movie premiere in LA that one of his songs is in the soundtrack for. I was like NUH-UH…I’m not gonna make you look cool and be your rental mannequin-girlfriend in front of your friends and then go back home after the weekend, I’m not having sex with you, I’m not doing the international romance with no promises thing anymore. It felt really good to assert boundaries and not feel sad about missed opportunities or whatever. Trying to get healthy again, quit my meds a week ago, fired up the old cruciferous veggies,… Read more »

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Ditto on your last sentence.

Ms.
Ms.

same. absolutely.

Ms. Leo Noir A
Ms. Leo Noir A

Me, too re: last sentence! πŸ™‚

AB FAB
AB FAB

Times three baby πŸ˜‰

Love can take a back seats, lets get ridiculous. Like really ridiculous re: everything.

freedom a la air
freedom a la air

totally!!!!

PI
PI

yeah, I am on the same page (except for one thing). what I most wanted to say was i love “ghetto ombre” term xx

Star inspired
Star inspired

Me four!… or five, or whatever.

Began reading ‘Think & Grow Rich’ (again) today… Started back at Yoga in the mornings, with cardio in the afternoons & way better nourishment ie: all natural fruits, veg, salad, protein, etc…
& feeling ‘Oh So Powerful’. Nothin’s gonna stop me now
πŸ™‚

Btw: Awesome affirmation, statement of intent, ‘God/Goddess/Manifestation Box’ fodder.
Truly inspiring!

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Wise plan. Go for it.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

Nothing wrong with that! πŸ˜‰
Go for it!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’m right there with you! Totally revamped my closet and commitment to self image. Health, posture, style – fashion has become more important to me. I’m a few years shy of 40. No more jeans and tshirts and taking it easy. Not because that’s bad, but because it doesn’t feel right for me. I want heals and glittery things and a new hair color and bigger hair. And more yoga, produce, and protein. Oh – and if I eat out, I am only going to ethnic places where people actually love the food they cook. Others can come and go… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes me twelve or whatever πŸ™‚ for the first time in a very long time I have ditched the idea of love and it’s so refreshing and liberating not to be thinking of it. Not to be on that emotional rollercoaster. I’m focussing on me and it’s wonderful. Eating well, working out, yoga, spirituality, spa appts…treating myself with respect.

Sunrise
Sunrise

Maybe the venus square uranus aspect means that WOMEN are the ones to surprise hunky door-stop at men’s houses.

Capfire
Capfire

Speaking of Aqua… Im on my 2nd Zombie situation with yet another Cap/Aqua combo. The distant always working type but then again so am I. I wish one of us would open up, maddening on the edge when together. I can’t begin to tell him or even utter the slightest hint that I’m actually in love with him. I am multi conjunct Cap (Sun, Merc, Mars) Aqua Jup and everything progressed in Aqua. I feel as though I’m a magnet to his aqua Venus. Sex amazing, exploring new dementions… and then the cold, manners, work, wait of Cap rears its… Read more »

leogroover
leogroover

Love that term and the idea is sooo sexy

leogroover
leogroover

I mean hunky door stopping.

gemyogi
gemyogi

Interesting. What do peeps think about women making a move on a guy they’re interested in? I’ve read lots of advice (books, articles etc.) that all say, NEVER chase a man or make the first move… And my experience seems to back this up. I don’t think I’ve ever made a move on someone that has been successfully received. But it seems kind of old fashioned and dumb that women can’t ever call a guy or ask them out etc.

Anonymous
Anonymous

*comes in a looks around tentatively* Nope….nothing yet…..despite transiting Venus right now being bang on my natal Venus which is at 6 degrees Cap. Also, my natal Venus is majorly aspected in my chart, so I would think it would have gotten super activated right now, plus it is in direct aspect of the current ZZ. But yeah……nothing. Maybe a bit of clarity, and a very weak, slight resurfacing of some weird old telepathic love zombie stuff, but no real charge on that, no real interest there, just blah… So yeah, I’m still waiting to see if something happens….. I… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

oh, the other thing is that as far as ‘feedback’ in my life lately, I’ve been on the receiving end of a lot of hatred and criticism directed personally at me, both at work and at home. Feeling unloved… feels like Venus has brought me the opposite of love….

Brenda_Badass
Brenda_Badass

I guess it’s an Aquarian thing. I’ve been the recipient of ire and jealousy for awhile now. I did get a random text from a fellow Aquarian ex-coworeker who had a raging crush on me, but I’m holding out for the whopper of Venusian voodoo in the form of contact from my fellow Aquarian ex-lover. We’ve been mutual love zombying over each other, but are both too stubborn and afraid of being rejoiced by the other to start anything again. There’s nothing colder than being in a room with two ex-Aquarian lovers, i’ll tell you that.

Brenda_Badass
Brenda_Badass

*rejected, not rejoiced..

Anonymous
Anonymous

What you have to work out is does the criticism have an element of truth? If so, that is great you know what to work on.

Or have you gone though a personal growth period and got your awesome on and they are jealous?

I also find if I am not admitting something to myself I fight with other people projecting blame.
When I figure out what it is, the fights go away.

Try to turn it into a positive.
Hope that helps πŸ™‚

Ms.
Ms.

this is true depends what it is. xx

Anonymous
Anonymous

Alain Delon looks a lot like Terence Hill in that clip, *sigh*, very nostalgic, used to swoon over Terence Hill, now there was a cowboy.

sistasue
sistasue

Love Z? No, surely not happy, single and celibate me! Then again have been lusting after a certain dodgy Gemini celeb right down to googling nude pics, he also happens to share his birthday with my (long gone) ex…no coincidence right?

Anonymous
Anonymous

Pola Kinski outs her famous father as a violent child rapist, I reckon that’s the Venus Uranus to a T too, she said she couldn’t stand the public adulation of him any more. Nastassja has strongly hinted at something along those lines in the past. It suits my mood, whatever the astroclimate that’s responsible, fuqing over famous shits getting away with violent criminality because of their vaunted talents. It’s a WTF world at the moment.

freedom a la air
freedom a la air

who is pola kinski?

Ms.
Ms.

german actor’s daughter, google.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Misguided attempt at intervention with LZ. Who then proceeded to blame everyone for every unrelated issue thus creating Drama smokescreen.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

Same here. I have an Aqua friend who is obsessed with a guy who only texts her after bar closing time. It’s been over six months now, but she insists they are meant for each other. Never been on a real date. She stalks him and shows up at his work. She asked my advise, I said: “Move on,” She got mad at me and yelled at me. “What would you possibly know about men or dating you are married!” I am at my end of my rope with her. She refuses to see the light. Her other friends encourage… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Walk away from the situation if not the friend. when they don’t think rationally aquas are like a big black hole of crazy.

After intervention attempt its become clear that nothing we can say or do will sober LZ up. You just gotta wait for the fever to break and hope the side effects don’t drag on too long.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

thanks. I didn’t expect her to lash out at me like that. Her mood swings are getting quite bizarre too.
I hope this guy can handle her!
Wish I could sprinkle LZ spell remover dust on her to make her trance disappear.
In the meantime, I am staying clear.

gemyogi
gemyogi

Hmmm. I think she needs to read “He’s just not that into you”. Mind you, in my 20s and 30s I spent years obsessing over unavailable (and uninterested) men. Maybe some of us need to go through this fantasy stage?

Anonymous
Anonymous

I was going to suggest that book too!

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

She’s heard of the book. She’s not a young adult and knows better. But refuses to see the light. So, I am the bad guy. She is used to her other friends cheering her on to continue the pursuit and what’s an adoring audience to say You are the most beautiful women in the world and smart- of course he loves you!
I thought she wanted real advice not just an adoring audience to her stalker rants.
I was way wrong.