The Upside Of Being A Love Zombie

So we all know the downside of being a Love Zombie but what about the upsides? Former and Recovering Love Zombies: please don’t take this as a trigger lol. But seriously, i can think of two, just offhand.

(1) The development of skills & attributes you might not otherwise have had. Eg; I know someone who became a really skilled motorcyclist trying to impress/get closer to a married Saggo who had implied that their one night fling could in fact turn to more. He fed her obsession, always flaring up whenever she successfully withdrew. Like candida, like the the herxheimer reaction in fact. Anyway, that thing followed the classic Love Zombie cycle and she eventually successfully applied standard F.F.F. Protocol on the situation. But she became brill with bikes and it transformed her life for the better. Some Love Zombies dive into study/therapy all of a sudden and others get ultra-fit.

(2) Sleuthing skills enhancement. The F.B.I could totally recruit Former Love Zombies for their skills in Pattern Recognition, deduction with very little clues to go on & photo analysis – what did the strange expression on his face at the cousin’s bbq pics on Facebook mean? Existential ennui? Marriage break-up? Gas?

O.M.G and speaking of Love Zombies, whatever happened to that lady who wore nappies so as to drive faster cross-country to stalk her fellow astronaut lover?

 

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lm
lm

i’m coming out of years of zombiedom by studying music and psychiatry! i’ve turned into a studying machine. it’s an incredible turn-around.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I want to share some words from the only book that really helped me through my LZ phase. I KNEW it was some mystery of the Universe, and my Mars-Pluto-Mer starting at 0 first house Libra wouldn’t let it go. This is from Nature of Personal Reality. I like Seth Speaks too. In the other books, the authors kind of lose their shit all over the manuscript. Story is they channel Seth from an alternate reality. He’s an intelligence. Whatever. I don’t claim to get it. Anyway, excuse me taking up the space. Just want to share so the person… Read more »

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Love it! πŸ™‚

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

totally!!

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

Thanks for putting this up. I did chakra course, and wow, did NOT , could NOT foresee the fruits that awaited me at the conclusion of it. One of it was that during a healing session (as part of the course) I felt myself filling up, like a cup being filled, I was welling up all the way to brim, and I finally GOT it: I love myself. Just like that. No one can take it away from me. And I didn’t need artifice stuff, e.g. any kind of drugs, to grok it (again, never been much of one to… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Xoxo. Now, can we get the rest of the species to get over their bad trips? Lol. Everybody wants (has) love.

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

Yes totes! It’s like that Osho nugget gem about seeking “enlightenment” – there is no seeking, it’s in you all along, you just have to find it or peel the layers or smth similar to that. Soz, can’t remember the exact thing atm.
And how whichever teacher one chooses, they’re not there to give it to you, merely to guide you.
Yeah2x, like that Rumi saying, there’s a full bucket inside of you don’t go around empty! Not anymore!!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

So, being an LZ taught me that my consciousness contains the BEST drugs EVER! I have a friend who goes to lots of shows. He admitted to me the other day that he’s all like “that show was amazing! that band rules!” but its really because he was on so many “good” drugs. I did ecstasy with him and some friends the other night. I’ve never done it before, but I’ve said “it was like I was on ecstasy” before, so I wanted to compare. Being an LZ gets you WAY higher than ecstasy. And, ecstasy is gross as it… Read more »

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

yeah who needs drugs when you are the drug?

Anony_Aus/Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Anony_Aus/Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

They’ve actually done tests on people who are madly in love and it’s almost chemically identical to a cocaine high.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Wow.. interesting. Maybe that is what is happening to me. I am so in love with HIM who doesn’t want me and will eventually come down off it! But then again.. what he is teaching me is to love myself. Oh boy.. now I have to figure this out. Is it I love HIM or is it I love ME.. eye opening thought for me! Kinda chuckling to myself! I feel like I am in a philosophy class! I am gonna start writing like Carrie in Sex in the City. Every thought that came across her she would start writing… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Love is a feeling. Not a person. Not a Me or Him. Love is a state of being. Being horny and passionate and confident and firey and emotionally accessible – all that all the time. Its not what we think ourselves to be capable of and maintain polite society. But what about our society is polite?! LOL! BE love! Your mind has surprisingly little to do with anything around here. Intellect doesn’t help in these matters, it actually hinders. xo

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Yes. The unconditional love for Him or Me. It maybe both but I honestly think it is for me! Which is a great feeling and why I feel so high. It is amazing and have never experienced it before. Kinda like freedom. I am enjoying it.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

FreeEllienow!!:-)

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I have a theory that love zombie dom can open you up to a stash of love that you can dose yourself with on-demand like. It scared me at first because if you drop LSD or similar, you know how long you will be tripping – plan your day around it. When I was a LZ, it seemed endless but no one seemed to notice how high I was. Its just consciousness. Now, I am kind of light tripping all the time, lol! I mean, I learned I have to ground out and not get manic, but I can feel… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

please, rant on! i for one am quite interested in how to access these drips. as my recovery progresses i find i am totally lost as how to be thin, sexy, etc without the juice. the second phase of recovery… the rebuilding.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

OMG – you TOTALLY got dosed the other night confronting that dirty word “artist” did you not? You are totally capable of getting yourself in the zone. Paint the pentagram on your wall if you want. Get off on you. Its right there. And you don’t need drugs to give you permission or access to that. Its all you, you hot artist mother woman. Actually, there are some methods of meditation that can help make it more of a practice. But trusting in the flow of your emotions is a baseline practice. Like, getting in the zone and not judging,… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Breathing, eating, sleeping, shitting – these are all spiritual practices. Deep inhale through the nose, exhale through the mouth, belly breaths. Get the fire in your belly open and chill. Little light buzz.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

ah, lovely. these are all things i already do, it’s just about practice and confidence. and practice! cool! totally doable. and YES i DID access it the other night! though i was not remotely sober. but ok, yeah, take that and run with it! and heck yes ground it constantly. this is the lesson of my saturn-uranus at the moment too- ground it. make it REAL. thank you you amazing treasure! i didn’t paint the pentagram which is good since my landlord unexpectedly came over 2 days later. phew to that. instead i took the manic mars energy and combined… Read more »

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

A large canvas hung on your wall then paint! You can take it with you when you move. do it!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Confidence! Yes! Know yourself. Don’t worry about the reflection in others.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I am also having bad hari at the moment. Time heals all wounds. πŸ™‚

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Think of it this way – when you do a drug, you are giving yourself permission to have a certain type of experience. Give yourself permission every waking moment. You don’t need it from drugs.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

yes, totally!! giving yourself permission removes the fear.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You can also fantasize. Pretend you are on a island and are the goddess that you are. What do you want? Feel that power. No judgement. Follow it out. Ground it out. I suspect you need to get wasted with friends cause you take on too much of their crap. You’re open, but you have guilt issues or something around your authority. You have to protect and defend your power. You really are a goddess. Interactions with others are disorienting and will be. There’s a split between what they feel like and how they act and when someone is fantasizing… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

i suspect you can get inside my head so well because we have lots of synastry. at least i know i have noted it several times. it’s freaky and cool what you wrote because it’s so very true. yes, i take everything on from my friends. they come to me for therapy and i am a damn good therapist for them but boundaries are a definite issue and i haven’t figured them out yet. exhausting and makes my debilitated pass-agg mars get all wacky. or that narcissistic rising i noted above. or both. somehow i’ve gotta learn to own my… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

the guilt is a good ol’ catholic upbringing. can’t be a powerful woman in that paradigm. fun!

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

sun, not moon above

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You don’t get to pick what you are. You own it. That’s it.

Was raised Catholic too. Must be part of our synastry πŸ™‚

The church is so repressed. Makes for hot, twisted fantasies.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

heh yeah, 12th house twisted fantasies. gawd it’s nice growing up!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’m a head getter-inner. Hope its not rude. A friend the other night was crapping on about how he’s not on Facebook cause he wants to control what people know about him. Makes me laugh. Who we really are is a secret we only keep from ourselves. Total mind fuck. We’re all free here – not just working our way towards it.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

that’s funny about fb. really there is no better way to create an artificial persona. i took a profile pic a few weeks ago and i was like, “i do not know who that chick is but she is gorgeous! i think i’ll become her.” the world sees us for what we put out, and without ptting out it takes the few bits and mentions and constructs a persona from that. i’d rather have control, personally.

i appreciate your head-excavation abilities. they

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

The Catholic stuff is full of useful archetypes, if you can just not take it personally. Let it be scray and exciting or whatever. Its just an interesting vocabulary of imagery to play with.

electric. eel libran
electric. eel libran

wow. that is exactly how it is when you are in L.Z. mode. It’s like you are tripping and everybody around you doesn’t notice. For whatever weird reason they think you possess superhuman/supernatural traits just naturally. They don’t realize you are half tanked up on lfe….

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

I’ve found I don’t need drugs (alcohol etc) to get high, am just naturally that way. Then my naturopath confirmed it for me. πŸ™‚ I was like, yep, knew that all along. He’s fabulous btw, amazing man.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Right!?! He’s all justifying the habit and I’m like “Dude, I am not arguing with you or having any bathed in baby Jesus’s blood come to God moment. All I am saying, is its cheaper and a way better high to work with your own energy.” People get WAY to hung up on the particulars of any given emotion. LZ-dom helped me through that.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

One case in particular, rather, pushed me off that cliff πŸ™‚

Anonymous
Anonymous

THE OTHER NITE WENT OuT WITH THE BIGGEST LOVE ZO WAS ON WAY BACK AFTER A BIG DRIVE ….EXHAuSTED she AQ WENT DANCING WAS A BLAST SHE A PSYCHIC ADDICT GOES A LOT FOR READINGS SHE THINKS THIS HOT SINGER IS HER SOuL PARTNER THEY R FRIENDS ONLY SHE WAITING FOR WHEN HE WANTS TO BE THE ONE FOR HER SHE OVER WEIGHT TALKS LIKE HE ALREADY HERS HE HAD A GIRLFRIEND AFTER YRS OF CELIBACY SHE HAD A ONE NITE STAND I TOO NOT HAD SEX FOR A WHILE… she wild i was acting crazy too as as we… Read more »

Anony_Aus/Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Anony_Aus/Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

Brilliant!

I remember the astronaut love zombie! She made headlines. So there’s another upside—unexpected fame.

I got really good at guitar through my Love Zombification.

davidl
davidl

We are all slaves to our desire.
It was once explained to me that desire is like trying to find a small object with a flashlight in a large darkened space. You’ll never find the object your looking for but you may find the light switch. Ummmm, this can take a loooong time.
Although I truly and undyingly understand that desire is my dragging chain, Prahupada taught me that long ago.
So why does life constantly remind you of them like all the time ? It’s a great puzzle that I’ve finished, messed up and finished and messed up…you get the picture.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Great way of looking at this davidl. Like it a lot πŸ™‚

Rambull
Rambull

I’m so gratefully for these insights. It has been soo long since I gave way to these feelings in myself. It’s awesomely fun and exciting, but what if I am rejected? I know there is a perfect Shakespeare something about the delicious agony of it all. It’s so gross! I like my romances sharp and to the Point!

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

rejection is fine as along as it is direct and happens soon, what i hated were guys and their indirect rejections…wussy shit they do to make it seem they are “nice”…. so they disappear, don’t text or call back, avoid, and so forth. In my new wisdom i have now labelled these under REJECTIONS instead of letting them feed an unnecessary fire. I can let go.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

YES!! letting it drag on and on and on under the guise of “nice.” so you have to be the bad guy. bollucks! grow a spine, men!

electric. eel libran
electric. eel libran

Like Diogenes searching for an honest man, I’m in search of a real one.

quintile
quintile

good point – my current LZO is very honest, at least I do know that – mmm, maybe it will turn out ok….*off to lala land again*

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

You know, I’ve just been reading this (http://sasstrology.com/2013/01/your-personal-lunar-phases-the-cycle-of-your-relationships.html) and worked out my own phase, and it occured to me: would a Love Zombie experience seed itself during a particular phase?? Just a theory, and not a very well-formed one at this stage. I mean, yes, even with, for example a full-on Venus-Pluto-Mars schemozzle situation thing going on, synastry and composite-wise, would it still have quite the same effect during a last quarter or balsamic phase?? Am no Mystic when it comes to astro but what do others think? These new things have a harder getting started during the finising phase… Read more »

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

yes i think some people get transits or just LZ with one person, but others are born into it. I can only think of 2 relationships that were not predominately L.Z.ed and even those…had a tiny touch of it.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Looking back, I’d say I always had the tendency. But Pluto square AC, Mars, trine Venus etc – my whole psyche imploded.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

whoa. that was a fun little bit of astro-geekery and holy moly, i discovered that not only did my lz start on a massive pluto-venus transit, but my prog moon was brand-spankin’ new (6 degrees off) and FOUR DAYS into leo. can we say cracking the heart wide open?? i never had a chance. i think this theory is fully valid (with a sample population of 1 πŸ˜‰ ).

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Mine was also around the time my progressed sun moved into my 1st house. I still call the overall experience Plutoic

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

Sometimes the only sample you need is yourself, innit? πŸ™‚ You’re your first astro client, and a life-long one.
“Astro-geekery”, love it, I (astro)-geek, therefore I am.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Mine was during a Pluto transit for sure.

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

Yep, that would do it.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Having massive computer problems atm – my 7 year old laptop is refusing to age with grace..Trying to replace it before the next Merc retro.So this will be short.. But oh my, the first pic summarizes the Everything. I spent two years in LZ prison, the benefits began when I turned my attention to myself. If your mind can obsess with another person, why wouldn’t that person be YOU? Any current LZ out there – appreciate your immense capacity to love. It is hard to get by in these times. Just make sure the other person deserves your love. And… Read more »

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

My old PC finally died during the last, recent Mercury rx; to be fair, Pepe was 6 years old. I was so sad, still have the hard drive in safe keeping.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

The funny thing about computers/laptops is that some of us spend a lot of time looking at the screen – retiring them feels like saying goodbye to an old friend, who has seen us in various shapes – in bed hair, bad hair days, in pjs, eating something, drinking, checking the screen intently, reading, etc. πŸ™‚

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

if a true l.z. directed love attention at itself, it would become a narcissist. and there’s too many of those out there if you ask me. Just keeping the L.z. stuff turned down or off is really the best way.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

wordpress ate my comment — Shortly: Using the same surgical skills that I used on the LZ target on myself, I discovered my relationship patterns – yearning after someone who is not around was safer than going into a tangible relationship. Sometimes self-obsession leads to understanding self better. πŸ™‚

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

i think that would work for peeps having a L.Z. transit or those interacting with someone who is causing a transit, but for us native L.Z. it is a way of life. like those people at the makeup counter who keep trying to sell me pink-toned makeup to hide or blend the yellowish cast to my skin. I’m like that’s its normal colour. I know it must be unpleasant for you to look at it but I’m yellow tinged. That’s how it is.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’m born to be self-obsessed: Mars-Pluto-Merc in the first house. I think this place is a hall of mirrors and everything leads back to me. All is way, blah, blah, blah. πŸ™‚

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

heh me too. jupiter and sun rising. sun on the 1st side. soooo easy to be self-obsessed. but denying it only makes it unconscious, which is so much worse for everyone.

electric. eel libran
electric. eel libran

yeah plus an unhealthy love for yourself is not better than an unhealthy love for others. It’s unhealthy no matter what.

mantis
mantis

Wiki: “Unrequited love has long been depicted as noble, an unselfish and stoic willingness to accept suffering. Literary and artistic depictions of unrequited love may depend on assumptions of social distance which have less relevance in democratic societies with relatively high social mobility, or less rigid codes of sexual fidelity. Nonetheless, the literary record suggests a degree of euphoria in the limerence associated with unrequited love, which has the advantage as well of carrying none of the responsibilities of mutual relationships: certainly, ‘rejection, apparent or real, may be the catalyst for inspired literary creation…”the poetry of frustration”‘.[10] Eric Berne considered… Read more »

davidl
davidl

Yes. Fantastic info and so true. Now lets talk ‘Romance’, where the Fuq did people learn that one ? A guy buys you roses and lights your fag and bang your a gonna ? Fuqing ridiculous , and so prevalent in western culture. We love this stuff, lap it up. While rolling the end of my mustache, I poor you a cold glass of champagne in the den, your 12 red long stemmed roses in the foreground glisten with fresh water vapor. I place my thumbs into my waistcoat pockets, revealing a very expensive watch. Then with a knowing glare… Read more »

mantis
mantis

You seem very romantic…

leogroover
leogroover

well written D. cheers

Star inspired
Star inspired

Yes beautifully written.

For me, a ‘True Heart’ connection (mutual) &/or raw pheromone attraction (also mutual), always trumps the glitz, glam & other machinations of materially fabricated romance…

And that’s even with a Libra Sun & Leo Moon, who Goddess knows, has a highly amplified appreciation for ‘Beauty’ generally & ‘Beautiful Things’.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

This almost sounds like 50 Shades of Grey. πŸ˜‰

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

sorry ralph waldo emerson rules!

Gabrielle
Gabrielle

Well, I have done extraodinary things being a love zombie, and whilst knowing it was mad, have alllowed that exceptional energy to propell me into all kinds of before unknown places, opportunities etc. I have literally travelled to the other side of the earth and landed in amazing situations, nothing to do with the fantasy, but always worthwhile in the end. For me it has been ’emotive’ that is ‘moving’ energy. Like when we take a chance…. and the unexpected transforms us. So – no – not all bad, just never, or, almost never, what the impetus was focussing on.… Read more »

freedom a la air
freedom a la air

Um…. the upside of love zombie is that all the hormones are pumping through the body, and all of a sudden one looks hot (unless of course it is a pathological case and all ugliness has already ensued)… but the initial lz motivational stage is even proned to increase weight loss, be great in bed, sexy as fuq, have lots of fun, dance all night, yes do acrobatic tricks (btw I woul dlove to be able to do that, its one of my goals for this year, without the alcohol)…. make lots of new “friends”… break down shyness barriers –… Read more »

Star inspired
Star inspired

OMG, that first photo brings back some classic LZ memories… Tragic as it is, I recall an incident in which I did basically exactly that! It was initially, meant to be one of those agile yet graceful ‘handstand/walk over/feat of incredible flexibilty type of things’ (WTF?!) but as it turned out, i somehow managed to incorporate THE prized flat-screen television into my act & we (His prized flat-screen television) & I crashed memorably to the floor. HE the ‘Hot Aqua Hong Kong Actor-Martial Artiste-Ryan Phillipe look-alike ‘… & I the Libra Sun, Leo Moon, Cap Rising, usually very pragmatic &… Read more »

Star inspired
Star inspired

* shortly after (not ‘thereafter’)

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

Wow, I’m in awe of the manifestations! *That* specific!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes, funny tho how they were all sort of ‘astrologically’ based intentions. Perhaps they’re the most powerful ones… Y’know, the ones where we suds out the sort of vibe/feeling we want & base our desires/intentions on that. I do know tho, for a fact, that not many people tend to realize or utilize their ‘Divine Support’ or Guides or the Universe or whatever, when they wish to manifest/co-create something. In fact many very rarely ask for anything, help, whatevs, at all. Could this be why they’re not manifesting all that they could?! It’s a two-way thing, we’ve gotta ask up,… Read more »

Star inspired
Star inspired

*suss out (not “suds out”)

… & that was me.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

i dunno, i do all that but my results aren’t quite so fabulous or tangible. you have an amazing ability, really really!

quintile
quintile

Interesting – I have to admit I am afraid to really ask – I’m gonna reflect on that today πŸ™‚

davidl
davidl

Love this SI. Yes, we can get all we want with undivided intention.
I remember the 80’s when women started making lists about all the requirements/ tackle/ etc. that made their perfect match. So funny and interesting. Have you ever seen the original movie Bedazzled , with Peter Cook and Dudley Moore. You must see it .
Your Dudley. πŸ™‚

Anonymous
Anonymous

Haha! Thanks David…
No I haven’t seen it, but youve inspired me to go hire the DVD & kick back with a refreshingly cold juice & tonic water for a nice relaxing arv.
After all, what could be better on yet another 40C day? : )

Star inspired
Star inspired

Oops, my gravitar keeps going awol.

Little Joey
Little Joey

I love that movie…. Peter Cook is so cool and evil in it. And it has an interesting message to boot!

electric eel libran
electric eel libran

love this story! and wow powerful manifests!

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

I sure could do with some manifestation powers like yours!

Star inspired
Star inspired

Isn’t it funny?… I never really considered myself a manifestor at all, let alone a ‘powerful one’! (Which is really initiating some soul-searching at the mo.) But it’s only just dawning on me, as I write this now, that if & when I do finally clarify what I want & intend that (a mean feat in itself for the Librans among us who are rarely decisive about anything)… It does actually come about! Y’know what??!! Think I’ll go read ‘Think & Grow Rich’… I’ve only ever flicked thru it, but with these newly realized manifesting powers (Thanks to transiting Pluto… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

yes, please do! you can be a manifestation teacher. πŸ™‚

quintile
quintile

I have had genuine success manifesting career and domestic things using a vision board – I reflect on what I want to manifest in the next 3 months, and collage it and hang in my studio. This has been very very effective – I’m just too scared to put a man in the middle/priority position. Interestingly, I did one about 18 months ago, put 3 male figures to the left to represent the 3 complicated situations I wanted out of my life, and put a image of a masked man in there too just because I liked it (diving goggle… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

it’s funny you mention this- today, before i came here, i took the picture of my lzo from last year’s vision board and the one from my altar and burned them. instantly a sense of relief and freedom. i think it is a hindrance to a real relationship if anything… it certainly manifested him, but it was like the 4 of wands. completion, but no room for growth.

Star inspired
Star inspired

I don’t know about wrong, but what I really Love about Vision Boards is that you’re putting really clear intentions out there, so they can be manifested in the BEST WAY FOR YOU. ie: Who am I to insist on having a passionate affair with Joe Bloggs down the street, if the Universe has sussed out that Brad Pitt is a far better match for me??!! I like the magic & miracles that are possible when i let go of trying to micro manage everything & open up to Divine wisdom & infinite possibilites. I’m over the limitations that come… Read more »

Star inspired
Star inspired

Oh, the other thing I’ve learnt re: manifesting, is to ONLY focus on what you DO WANT, not what you don’t want… Bcoz it’s the focussing (whether positive or negative), that amplifies & fuels the results.
ie: a focus on negativity/problems, cultivates more negativity.

ie: A friend wrote a list re: what she wanted in a partner & added “but NOT bald or balding”.

Needless to say, she got everything she asked for AND he was completely bald!

Such an awesome example! I just love it.

Veronica
Veronica

Too specific I think. it seems to work better if you ask for the qualities of x, be it looks, warmth, devotion, whatever it really is that you like about them, then it gives the universe room to give your request back to you. If you are insisting that it can only be the one specific person, then you aren’t really opening to receive…

Veronica
Veronica

Ooops that was in answer to quintile

quintile
quintile

thanks everyone for those thoughts, and the riff on manifesting – I’m gonna take this advice on board – too little time/space in 2012 to do much more than crisis manage, so its about time I took some agency! x x x

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I don’t think its a matter of ethics, but free will. You can’t override a person’s free will. That’s why its best to keep it more vague, general.

I have a hard time doing this. Too mutable. I don’t know what I want. Whenever I say/thing I do, some douche bag who fits the description shows up, lol.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Im in ! davidl

Star inspired
Star inspired

Most excellent!

leogroover
leogroover

well having just spent 6 days in a van on an epic LZ recovery mission with my past LZ obsession (now cruisy F* buddy) as the driver/mechanic/sometimes lust object I have learnt so much that i wish I knew when I was a 5 star LZ.
I learnt patience patience and more patience, allow the person to be, don’t pressure, don’t be clingy just flow with each other… Trust your instincts above all.

quintile
quintile

thanks for that – calming advice and a reminder that its actually about NOT trying to control and micro-manage, but allow the Other to be x I think it was fallen Angel who said once – respect their space and silence?

dazedandconfused
dazedandconfused

Yup, I think it made me a super sleuth and super intuitive, pattern recognition, visions, identifying a pic of someone I never met that was stalking me, lol, healing the unhealable. Graduating my soul…I seriously dislike saggo men now.

Rambull
Rambull

Also , obviously, the awesome movie he’s just not that into you.

Rambull
Rambull

Still though, the worst part is, I mentally KEEP GOING! Maybe I’m wrong? Maybe he thought it was cute, and he is currently devising a way to get w me? Then I’m like, wtf????? Back and forth!!! Aaarrghhh!!!!

quintile
quintile

same here – TRAGIC

bull with sting in tail
bull with sting in tail

Matt Johnson therapy all day,

Post love zombie

” the fire is out”

RΓ©ka
RΓ©ka

“what did the strange expression on his face at the cousin’s bbq pics on Facebook mean? Existential ennui? Marriage break-up? Gas?” – LOL. Love this! πŸ˜€

Link
Link

I lived for a time with a Leo lass who . . . well I’ll give her away if I say what she did. Anyway she learnt how to surf to keep up with the not so celibate, rock star, ex-Junky, book thief (!). She must have had a 12th house Sun she was remarkably mild-mannered. We were at Narrabeen one day it was cold and grey the surf was rough and big. I said to her are you are you going out in that?? She was. She didn’t seem by nature to be risk taker or particularly brave, but… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Sometimes i reckon it’s like the adventure you are secretly craving. Thankfully we all live and learn. I think for me, it’s about really knowing myself. And patience. Deep down I dont believe I’ll. BE alone forever, I know if I wait great things will happen, I’m just sooo Impatient!!!

RambI'll
RambI'll

I too had to make sure we wernt in archives! So it’s not just me then? Many years ago I dwelt upon the some faux rock god libran for a staggering 7 years! I dates others, busied myself generally, through out that time, but it took ages to get over. I think it was because he was very good at keeping me holding on when it suited him. I thought I was being soo evolved, (freedom, no expectations) but really I was just pandering to him because I wanted HIM sooo badly. So 10 years after my Recovery & a… Read more »

K-Gem
K-Gem

Photo 1 is just a scream in the context of this post (and generally) and I think that all LZs should print this out and stick it on their mirror with a little handwritten note – ‘This is how others see me right now. Is this what I want them to see?’ Number 3 advantage is that you lift your style, assuming of course that the object of your affections is not some slob. Number 4 advantage is that when you start listening to love songs a lot because they are in tune with where you at least are at,… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

you know, it’s almost worth it for the music appreciation angle alone. forget the thin, single, motivated, and hot part… icing on the cake. what it’s really all about is how exponentially it makes your heart grow. and music is the perfect vehicle to bring it to instant consciousness. oh the swoony depths!

Charles
Charles

Yeah that was Astronaut Lisa Nowak. I checked, she plead guilty to battery and got 1 year of probation, and was discharged from the Navy. It looks like it got fixed to make it go away quietly.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

since the moon is now in scorpio lets not forget the lesson that even YOU can be an axe murderer!

here is a can of gasoline, pour it all over yourself, now BURN. gets you where you need to go, with a maximum of pain and delusion. but oh it hurts so good.

Blue Steel
Blue Steel

Shakespeare is one eg of the upside to LZ-ism.
Volumes, upon volumes of poetry and plays about LOVE BEAUTY TIME, arcane expression, mastery of iambic pentameter and one can only conclude he had it real bad for a Libran once. πŸ™‚

Anonymous
Anonymous

Shakespeare’s Antony and Cleopatra are the sublime love zombies – elevate and perfect its art – the fact they’re middle aged and know they’re being ridiculous makes it all the more soul-churning and beautiful. Always want to slap Romeo and Juliet and tell them what’s what.

Porkchop
Porkchop

as an LZ you can also have hope where in reality there is no hope. eg fantasising all the time whether or not your crush likes you back (when it would be obvs to a non LZ that s/he is ‘just not that into you’, wasting time interpreting all the little ‘signs’ and creating stories. you can create this whole big ‘thing’ for yourself. and it can be quite entertaining if there isn’t anything much else going on in your life at the moment. makes life more exciting. and not really a positive, but good for scairdy cats, it keeps… Read more »

quintile
quintile

Absolutely spot-on Porkchop! My name is Quintile and I have been a LZ since about age 13 and sadly, still struggling with it despite small gains here and there. Got drunk and busted last night and called the LZO, only to have him ‘cut off’ the call (ie it didn’t even get to voice mail). Thankfully I did not send the text that said ‘come over and fuq me’ but I did text and say the call was a mis-dial. urgh. Each day can be a struggle for addicts – my latest self-loathing is thinking I should have had sex… Read more »

quintile
quintile

PS sun in the 7th House; venus conjunct pluto; moon in pisces; neptune in the 8th – all classic, potential LZ aspects

Star inspired
Star inspired

Oh but the Power!
Psychic, sensitive, redemptive, passionate, forgiving.
What you couldn’t do (once you’ve identified what you really love to immerse yourself in & given it to yourself), wouldnt be worth doing.

quintile
quintile

bless you! and thanks x x I’m gonna manifest on that too

Porkchop
Porkchop

i have a venus(8th)/pluto(5th) square and a sun/neptune conjunction in the 7th πŸ™‚ we can beat this thing though! lol i have spent a lot of time working on myself in therapy and with books and being single and feel like next time i’m in a relationship it will be different – because i’m different now. my bullsh*t tolerance is zero, and i’m just so much more grown up. next time i’m in a relationship i will be making room in my life for one, not forgetting all about my life and focusing on someone else’s and trying to make… Read more »

Star inspired
Star inspired

Word!

quintile
quintile

it IS progress not perfection and yes, we all have our own lessons and as long as you are not repeating them (well, not too exactly or too often), there is definite forward movement *hugs*

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

oh ouch. gentle on yourself with the self-loathing… it seems the universe was on your side tech-wise. i’m so sorry about your relative’s passing. hugs hugs hugs.

quintile
quintile

thanks dear – you too be gentle on yourself x x

Porkchop
Porkchop

i recommend the book ‘facing your love addiction’ by pia mellody and ‘getting past your break-up’ by susan elliot (she also has a website of the same name, which has tons of fantastic articles) be kind to yourself and i’m sorry to hear about your loss πŸ™ whenever i have been tempted to text the ex i tell myself that whenever i’m focused on him, i’m not focused on doing stuff for ME. he is out there living his life, so i need to do the same – because then there’s three people who don’t care about me – him,… Read more »

quintile
quintile

thanks heaps – I’ll check out those resources…yes, agree, that some of it is modelling from childhood that tailors to one’s native astro, perhaps emphasising the ‘low’ aspects; and/or childhood does not equip, or even negatively prepares one, for the particular growth one is destined for. One reason I panic is all the women in my family are single and substance abusing. *ducks*

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

This is so timely. I am officially a RLZ. I was looking back at the whole thing yesterday and wondering what I had gained from it: answer – I look 100% better than I would have otherwise and I have my shit 100% more together than I would have otherwise. Maybe my 7th house moon means I need to do it for someone else, not just myself; whatever, I know I emerge from the whole sorry episode a better version of me.

jicky
jicky

what about all that oxytocin dripping around your brain – a great high

Anon
Anon

MM – I totally get your point 2. I used to be a Love Zombie – and thanks to the object of my past desire, I am now able to identify the games some boys (and girls) like to play, detect the lies, read between the lines and TRUST MY GUT 100%. Oh, and I was especially good at photo analysis on FB until I deactivated my account … that was my wakeup call – waste of time … I don’t want to go back to LoveZombiedom … it’s just not part of my future πŸ™‚

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

I’d like to think she’s read some of the wise inspiring women on the Mystic Medusa blog and is doing a Kerouac style road trip of sorts to Tahiti, Egypt and North Africa, plus Cyprus – a sort of ‘i’ve been to NASA space camp training but i’ve never been to me’ awakening. She’ll get an appreciation for the wider world and her own privilege, then hit the Scheduler in Feb to start really making her mark. In reality her best comeback will probably be to write her memoirs and see what cash she can scrape up from the proceeds… Read more »

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

She’s a Taurus so what are Toros up to these days?

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

getting smeared by saturn. she’s over it. oh the embarrassment… poor girl.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

yes. She should write a book. Everyone loves a good redemption story.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

I think there are def. upsides to being a LZ. At the tender age of 15 y.o., I experienced my first love and first L.Z. experience. I trained to try out for the running team because I wanted to spend more time with Sexy-Legs Aqua. But you have to understand I was a complete fat-ass couch potato bookish nerd before I started. Really, it saved my life on some level. I had developed asthma and borderline blood sugar problems from weighing too much. The doctors begged me to particpate in gym and recess. I just didn’t care until I met… Read more »

freedom a la air
freedom a la air

Im so glad you are here to tell the story, how fuqin empowered are yOU!!!

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

woot! Good for you

AstroGeek
AstroGeek

Astronaut chick was demoted and then dismissed from the Navy with a “less than honorable” discharge.

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/08/gan-nowak-discharged-082010/

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Oh – I love the second photo. Inspiration for my 2013 portrait.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

No kidding – I saw this article and hit refresh like 3 times cause I thought I was stuck in the archives. Lol!

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

We’ve all been there, but now i see how stunningly boring it is being one, i wonder if the fact that you are becoming more obsessive and boring to be around means you continue pouring your energies into the illusionary fascination of the Other Person, rathyer than into yourself and your personal growth and lifestyle. I’m sure that flavours my teenage years, and i probably wouldn’t have been so boring if i had focused more on myself at those times than being a love zombie. By the same token i might not have explored being sexy quite as much either.… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Oh yeah the first photo totally cracks me up. Totally Brill illustrative choice for the state of LZ-hood.

I was thinking maybe Marcello Mastroianni?

12 house Leo
12 house Leo

Gee. Pretty sure he’s the hilarious Italian actor Marcello Mastroianni. Is that photo from a Fellini film? He doesn’t seem to be at all interested in her leg. Probably wondering how she’s going to defy gravity and swallow up.

Film Buff
Film Buff

That is Marcello and the film is La Notte with Jeanne Moreau directed by Antonioni

crystalbat
crystalbat

ha….. oh mystic! ‘diving into study/therapy all of a sudden’ umm i dove into studying therapy, as a great excuse to receive therapy, ha, it’s amazing, but i do wonder, now that the zombie time is a distant memory, how directly related to past piscean lover my choices were, and how it feels now that im in essay meltdown.. did i really choose from an authentic part of me? hmm sleuthing skills already fully in place, but definitely became enhanced yes, i do feel i reviewed my life choices and grabbed hold of the reins in a positive way as… Read more »