Megan Fox Is Having A Heavy Saturn Pluto Transit

On one level, Megan Fox is totally legit Sun-Mercury Taurus with Moon in Leo on the Midheaven.  She has a solid career, she says she hates being famous and wants only privacy, elegance etc. but poses on the front covers of magazines in her undies. That’s classic Leo Moon – “leave me alone,” sobs Leo Moon, texting her location to the paps.

But in her latest Esquire interview Fox went completely off-road with an epic rant about Aztecs, pagan sacrifices, the AntiChrist and so on.

Is this just an example of why media advisers tell their celebrity clients NOT to hit the Blue Devil Hoochie Juice/Space Dust before/during having a journalist over?

Or is she really feeling her Saturn-Pluto transit quite intensely? She has Scorpio Rising with Pluto tucked away in the 12th House and Saturn sitting on it till July or something. Some highlights from the interview, collated by D-Listed:

Check these out and then thoughts, puh-leeze.

“I’ve read the Book of Revelation a million times. It does not make sense, obviously. It needs to be decoded. What is the dragon? What is the prostitute? What are these things? What is this imagery? What was John seeing? And I was just thinking, What is the Antichrist? When war breaks out in the Holy Land, like it is right now, if that is a sign of the immediate end times, then where are the other signs? Is it possible that it’s the Internet or fame itself or celebrity?”

 

“I have seen magical, crazy things happen. I’ve seen people be healed. Even now, in the church I go to, during Praise and Worship I could feel that I was maybe getting ready to speak in tongues, and I’d have to shut it off because I don’t know what that church would do if I started screaming out in tongues in the back.

It feels like a lot of energy coming through the top of your head — I’m going to sound like such a lunatic — and then your whole body is filled with this electric current. And you just start speaking, but you’re not thinking because you have no idea what you’re saying. Words are coming out of your mouth, and you can’t control it. The idea is that it’s a language that only God understands. It’s the language that’s spoken in heaven. It’s called ‘getting the Holy Ghost.’ “

 

“I feel like there’s stuff literally buried there and buried where the Maya were. I would like to uncover the secrets of the universe. In my fantasy.”

 

 “I like believing. I believe in all of these Irish myths, like leprechauns. Not the pot of gold, not the Lucky Charms leprechauns. But maybe was there something in the traditional sense? I believe that this stuff came from somewhere other than people’s imaginations…. We should all believe in leprechauns. I’m a believer…. You and I are humans, this is not all of it. This cannot be, because we are so disappointing…. Films don’t hold the answers I’m looking for…. Would you not be so much more interested in finding out that Bigfoot existed than in watching a really good movie? … I believe in aliens…. I am childlike in my spirit, and I want to believe in fairy tales… Loch Ness monster — there’s something to it…. There’s the Bell Witch… What distracts me from my reality is Bigfoot. They are my celebrities.”

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catfish moon
catfish moon

My transiting Saturn on my natal Pluto was the worst time for me, the darkest days. The window to Hades was blown open.

No thank you. If I had not have had my 3 kids, I wouldn’t be alive.

John
John

Okay… So, though maybe not the most tasteful of places to vent, I totally understand what she’s going through. Rising Scorpio with Pluto at 7°19′ here. Aspects most of my chart too. But the need to solidify a belief system and sense of spirituality I am totally going through. Lucky me, I have Neptune on my sun at the moment so it is a pretty easy transition for me. 😉 Now just have to keep faith to get past Pluto opposite my moon and Uranus squaring it. @.@

sweetpea
sweetpea

She’s searching is all. We should all be allowed to our search. God only knows what mine would look like and am writing about it, warts and all. How can you otherwise be real? Or of any assistance whatsoever to the human race. With Saturn on Pluto (I have just the opposite in 7th right now). Her Leoniness no doubt feels the superficial vibe of her MC career in Hollywood. “There is something more to this bullshit”…She was just not so crass to say it outright, and when we’re still young an naieve, we don’t know how to say it…… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea

Went walking today at 5 am..saw a meteroite fall in the desert sky…what a lovely surprise…

If we just relax, the universe comes to us..

It’s been a long time since I’ve been to the ocean but like I mentioned elsewhere, Norah Jones….”Rosie’s lullabye”

sweetpea
sweetpea

Norah an Aries (hadn’t known), but look at all that Pisces..”the big ships are rollin”

“the water pools so strong..and noone is around…and the Moon is lookin’ down”

http://e-tarocchi.com/newStarReports/Norah-Jones-astrology-natal-horoscope.html

sweetpea
sweetpea

water “pulls” so strong, but I imagined “pools” 🙂

Lovely Toro Moon adds to the sensuality of her voice

Megan who? 😉

sweetpea
sweetpea

But really, “energy coming thru the top of the head” is her own Higher Self” energy…it comes in thru the crown chakra…lower energies come in thru the solar plexus and relate on a ego/fear based level. She may just not understand what is happening to her which is understandable. Sounds like she needs a qualified teacher to guide. The seven seals/churches in the biible are the seven main chakras. The 12 trumpets that blow/the 12 tribes of Israel are the twelve energy frequencies times 2, make the 24 Elders (The Ancients, which “sit before the Throne” are not coming back… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea

Can just say I asked a tarot on line a question about L and me…

Got The Fool card..well, at least it was very ~me~ lol. x

Gneiss
Gneiss

And like Neo, who the heck makes it the first jump ? On the first go, really with no mistakes ? Hell I am a multi-Virgo forgiving self is a biggie, mistakes are why we are here. Had to fall pretty far, stubborn Toro Moon cuss I am. Now I Rise UP. Thanks Sweets, great stuff love.

Gneiss
Gneiss

Yep, lower energies coming in was exactly what got me into the deep end in the first place. Word up wise one ox

Anonymous
Anonymous

Ths is one of the more battier threads on mm over time. Pretty funny.

andromeda
andromeda

Who you calling batty? 🙂

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Definitely one of my favorites. Took turns I in no way saw coming.

What IS conventional anymore? Conventional is a myth.

Anonymous
Anonymous

well im a big fan of beautifull women in undies banging on about their fantasies.

leogroover
leogroover

me too A and has their been the convo about whether they are real or not … yet? ok I’ll start
1 tick for fake

Anon
Anon

Yep, fake! So is her face!! Have you seen old photos of her? Just google “megan fox before & after”
So much surgery. Why, why why did she do it?? She was stunning before!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Wow, look at that mane of hair and she has Leo Moon on MC! Astro is so telling there.

I have Taurus Moon on MC and wondering what that says

Raché (Aqua/Tauri)
Raché (Aqua/Tauri)

Megan Fox astrology scene from This is 40:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5lNgJVcbNBc#at=100

stereotyping penis size by sun signs, lol

fallen angel
fallen angel

I heard something about Geminis being almost always big but scatty. Hmm. They are not my go-to sign usually however, the few in the roster seemed apt. So silly..

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

Women can be more critical towards women than towards men. Men and women pick on women. We project. I’ve done it too. Trying hard not to do it anymore.
Megan is hot, and wacky possibly a bit of a nutter, but I’d like to get to know her know more so after the off-the-wall interview. At least she isn’t just falling into the clique of being a ditzy airhead bimbo or bitchy self centered mean chick that just talks about her looks and loves to go shopping.

89
89

im pretty sure all of us 1989rs ish are having this going on. plutos been on my natal saturn neptune conjunction and saturn is inching to natal 13 dg pluto. its just that she knows shes famous and people just like her cuz shes hot but shes like i’m way more powerful magic fuck corporate celebrity propaganda bullshit. but she’s of course a celebrity so her soul is a little pinched by being allowed extreme egomania and endless [to normal person] money that the neoliberal economic globalizing seems to get support off of from many societies. glamourized by hollywood bullcrap….… Read more »

89
89

i need to add a Fuck Patriarchy and all governments and banks also

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

amen!

Raché (Aqua/Tauri)
Raché (Aqua/Tauri)

I think Megan is very lonely…maybe so lonely that she’s trying to connect with the interviewer and the public at large who like her for what she really thinks?

It seems she doesn’t have any friends other than her husband and is wary of making friends in Hollywood.

anonymous
anonymous

Ive been a pyschic/tarot reader/practising witch for 30 years. I was also a PR/Media professional for 20 of those years.

My two worlds never met, accept for checking my pyschic side for ‘correct messaging’ re mass communication magic.

I have always felt that the esoteric life and wanderings are a deeply personal thing, to be shared in like-minded circles, definitely not with the readers of Esquire magazine for whom the undies pic is perfectly adequate.

My advice to MF – ZIP IT ! Vsit your local Theosophical Society for discussion on the arcane.

andromeda
andromeda

That’s a fascinating mix of worlds! Can’t help wondering what would happen if those two worlds ever met. 🙂

Silence is golden… agree.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Ive always been of the opinion that the world of PR is like the Magician card in the tarot.
You use words to create new perspectives, new realities. You affect mass consciousness and it requires a strong ethical position because its so open to dark manipulations – as we’ve witnessed in the Weapons of Mass Destruction ‘lets go to war’ scenario.

I did a Masters paper which subtly eluded to this point.

However, I would never, never announce my other life in this professional setting. Its just to personal and precious.

andromeda
andromeda

I am happy to hear there are such ethical people of yourself in the world of PR – how comforting! The Magician seems perfect as you suggest in the role of juggler of perceptions and the bridge between the material and the conceptual. It is interesting to me the different views on the personal vs the public and how we handle our inner worlds in the face of that. Maybe it is a very 2013 discussion what with so many people expressing their interest in the Mayan calendar and asking if their views on reality relate to our own. I… Read more »

andromeda
andromeda

Go Megan! This is totally normal behaviour in my world. Leprechauns are just small energetic beings that are folded into the fabric of the natural dimension in my view. Mini earth spirits in the matrix. Didn’t she just have a baby? It can be a huge perceptual shift. Questions of pain/healing, reality/illusion, life/death, unity/separation, Big God, Mini Gods, Self as God are all totally shamanic and natural at such a creative time. Credo Mutwa the famous South African shaman says, “You are either a shaman or an intellectual. You are either a green person, who lives according to the chaotic… Read more »

Pi
Pi

I totally disagree with Credo Mutwa, if that is what she believes!!! how insulting, to both types, and closed-minded to believe that someone who loves and follows a more intuitive path cannot approach things in an intellectual way, and vice versa. It strikes me that people who old these beliefs have not encountered enough members of society who balance the two, or who can accept both approaches – and more – and see, or create ways in which they can work together.

andromeda
andromeda

I would like to see science and shamanism find a common ground too. 🙂
Still, I think Credo Mutwa is really saying you can’t have it both ways, the rational and the wild intuitive energy in harmony at once.
He isn’t talking on a personal level about intelligence, it is the transpersonal level that healing is achieved within.
Healing works properly when there is profound openness, the very nature of reason and intellect is counter that. I would say he is right ultimately on a transpersonal level.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Oh but they do!
I know intellectuals who study and write about the occult.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes on a personal level it is possible… But at the level of frequencies interacting, no.

Veronica
Veronica

I spent about 12 years operating my life on a totally intuitive artistic musical frequency, made great work, lived in magical warehouse, public acknowledgement, overseas studio grants, llots of world travel but couldn’t really make a solid living, got very burnt out and tied. Next 12 years, moved to a smaller town, big saturn transit over tight mars, pluto uranus in virgo, studied for a new profession, accidentally realised I was good at it, became precise, details oriented, super organised made good and regular money, finally bought a house. Which I have wanted soooo much since I was kicked out… Read more »

Gneiss Moon
Gneiss Moon

My best work comes when I detach (11th house Neptune) and let the tuning fork do her thing. Mars quintile 9th house Uranus tweaks long distance healing vibes. I feel I use both the collective unconscious Neptunian seas :and: the energetic spectrum associated with Uranus. They tag team in my experience, just part and parcel of the polarites working in tandem with my Neptuner. As far as Megan, don’t know a thing about her, except the above. Very curious about the speaking of tongues bit. I was drug to an evangelical church (sun/ur/pluto Virgo 9) when young preteen. Glossalia prominent,… Read more »

andromeda
andromeda

Not sure if this was re my comments but ‘checking out’ for any old energy/entity to step in and ego enhance along with make doom & gloom prophecy is obviously nothing to do with aligning with Spirit.

andromeda
andromeda

You are right to be careful if you haven’t found a teacher/practitioner who can show you how this works in practicality btw!

Gneiss Moon
Gneiss Moon

Agree ! Was just talking to my Mom, she said in the adult group some gal talked in tongues all the time. eg while in the bathroom or cooking dinner or whatever. okay. hmmm… My Mom said it didn’t ‘take’ with her, the lady laid hands on, prayed, no tongues for Mom. I def. get the ‘electricity through the head’ bit because all those in the throes would jerk like they were haviing an epileptic fit, (surges of neuron activity) followed by glossalia and a river of tears. Not sure if I get the ‘turn it off’ thing Megan refers… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

they feel quite different – channeling is a denser energy.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Gneiss, when you channel it is denser and it , er, ‘doesn’t touch the sides’. You’re still clean. You are bringing in something to be expressed, a message. Anything else is trying to be absorbed into you, become part of you. I have spoken unkown languages in my sleep and funnily i’m ultra fluent in some languages i’ve learned, ONLY when asleep. It’s always ME talking. If someone is talki9ng to me during my dreams i get a rebus: image + text. In other words i READ. It would be just plain old rude for something to try to talk… Read more »

Gneiss
Gneiss

Interesting, you get text, fascinating ! And learn languages, so interesting – is is astral, guides ? Sorry if too personal a ? I don’t think I have ever talked in sleep, Merc at MC and well aspected, but my Neptune has blocks, squares to 8, opp to Moon. But I get words popping in my in my head, or electric currents when something important is happening. Current comes re important future events. I don’t always know what it is, just note time place etc..for later. Also wonder about the residue, people who had the hands on thing had to… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

The notion of guides intrigues me, Gneiss. I don’t know who they are. A gifted clairvoyant/energy reader did once say the voices of my ancestors are very strong around me, but they do seem to be busy telling me what to do in the old parent child guilting way…not very good at guiding, huh! In addition, she said the healing i do will work backwards and forwards through the generations on the women in my family. i’ve seen some of this at work already but she also told me it’s not my place to talk about it with them. Your… Read more »

Gneiss
Gneiss

I remember you saying healing the generations now, that is so relevant ! I am doing similar, though is not only blood family with Moon and 11th house in the fray. I have Sun/Ura/Pluto conj in Virgo 9. Uranus sextiles Neptuner in 11 which is semi-squ Saturn ruler. So is like I have a lock and dam thing going. It has taken what seems like a coon’s age to figure out how to manage the mischief of the dualities of Merc coupled with the polarities of Uranus. Your aspects sound like far reaching sensitivity to family for sure. You have… Read more »

andromeda
andromeda

I agree with anonymous, the energy is different.
Different again is the energy quality of an entity that is not out for your highest good versus a high level frequency being who is an expression of love. An entity can fill you with awe or fear but is unable to fill you with warmth, calm or clarity.

andromeda
andromeda

Also before you embrace the experience of entering the superconscious, in my experience you first triple-check with whom you are interacting – THEN you let go.. An unconditionally loving guide or being will be patient and kind ALWAYS with questions. This is not science fact or fiction behaviour nor is this mere courtesy. Engaging on an energetic level is a commitment that has repercussions for healing or otherwise and people who are in love with authority, abase themselves or refuse responsibility are natural victims. This is not the same as the behaviour of a shaman who goes without ego and… Read more »

Gneiss Moon
Gneiss Moon

Thank you anon & Andie. Yes, agreed. Not letting any energy interaction take place that is not for highest good, benevolent outcome. Aware of this I am a sensitive, empathic, etc.. What I was referring to is I embrace both a natural shamanistic viewpoint :and: a intellectual scientific viewpoint – both are valid and work best when used in tandem. Too frequently nature is tossed aside for so-called ‘progress’ or vice versa.
Anon, thank you I imagined the channelling would be denser due to both the translation and duration of message/ interaction.

andromeda
andromeda

Hi Gneiss, soz was so abrupt here btw, I am organising my littlest’s birthday, he is 3! Can’t believe it.
It’s fascinating to have both hats on of course science hat & shaman hat, as I said above, I don’t believe you can entertain both simultaneously while in a superconscious state, language muddies the water or koans wouldn’t be what they are! 😉

Gneiss
Gneiss

Happy Birthday little one ! Is okay Andie, I know your voice here, I get you.
agree, swithces back and forth, but I do use both the Uranian zip and Neptunian plunge ! 🙂 Happy party x

Gneiss Moon
Gneiss Moon

I would like to add, I am by no means an expert on glossalia, just one experience of mine. There are perhaps more positive messages coming through for others. Dunno, will have to reasearch it.

Anonymous
Anonymous

my first experience which set the precedent for those that followed was very positive and nothing to do with church. it happened spontaneously and there was no doom and gloom although it can only be described as biblical. I am not a christian but I what I saw was definitely icons from their system. It was quite beautiful. I think the environment and people you are with would be the key to to the frequency. Strangely, while typing this my rib cage spontaneously opened up and cracked and my posture has changed. I can only speak from my own experience… Read more »

Gneiss Moon
Gneiss Moon

I have had more than my share of weird experiences, they just came along later. More time, earth men related. Saturn (my ruler, trines Mars which quin Uranus) I am making my way, via a new path through hitting up my Mercury sextile from the depths of the 8th house. If I trusted those involved in the laying on of hands, I would perhaps answer differently now. When I am doing energy healing I get info dropping into my head regularly. (Saturn in aries 3) I move back and forth between worlds, hard to explain – thank you for the… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

🙂 Am familiar with your good works hon. because my experiences were spontaneous I didn’t connect any of those religious things to it so my comment might’ve been read in a different way to that intended – laying on of hands? no idea what that is or how it works but I would definitely be off that kind of thing if people had been laying anything on me when it happened. so, sorry I wasn’t suggesting you return to THAT forest, just that there’s no reason to fear that stuff. You seem like you know how to move back and… Read more »

Gneiss
Gneiss

Oh I WAS lost for quite some time, on the way back now though. Being really sick for so long was what ‘cracked me open’. The laying on is rooted in pentacostal prayer, so well intentioned I gather, yet I have been churched out by folks, and having Uran in 9, I split that scene asap.
The organic, natural thing is where I am going…Uranus does it’s own thing, but now I work on tuning the fork, lol.
Thanks Anon x

Gneiss
Gneiss

Forgot, I love that you saw iconagraphy. I am a fan of symbology, fascinated by martyred saints (not catholic) how they are represented in historical art and they have come to my aid when in dark times. So not churchy but a spiritual seeker, most definately. x

kmachine
kmachine

So.. I’m into occult and New Age stuff. But there is a fine line between “content with reality and simultaneously interested in/open to unseen phenomena and alternate realities” and… psychotic. One tip-off that Ms Fox is closer to psychotic:

“This cannot be, because we are so disappointing…”

A lot of crazy people (usually the ones with a substance abuse problem) succumb to psychosis because they are profoundly disappointed with reality– of their world and of their own minds. These interview snippets are sad!

andromeda
andromeda

I think she is frustrated with herself and people generally, it isn’t psychosis to be frustrated. I hope she finds her way though. The fact is the human brain isn’t really geared to being able to ‘know’ everything let alone communicate what it does ‘know’.

Anonymous
Anonymous

You know what, I think this kind of comment should be removed, it should be against the mores of this community. NOBODY has any business making a “diagnosis” of psychosis in a person they have never and will never meet and then publicly sharing their totally uninformed “diagnosis” with random strangers. Totally NOT cool. These are flesh and blood, living people you are discussing, if you wouldn’t say it to their face why the hell are you publishing it? In fact, it’s enough to wean myself off this place, there is enough random spite and hatefulness in the world, why… Read more »

kmachine
kmachine

Fair enough to say I’m in no position to diagnose, but who says I’m feeling spiteful? I don’t look down upon anyone for their mental condition or think psychosis is a shameful condition– it’s one that arises from lack of social support and requires even more support to stabilize. It exists in my community and in my family, and my experience with the mentally unstable has only increased my compassion. I’m sad for her because she is disappointed in humanity! And if I had the opportunity to have a heart to heart with Megan Fox lol, and she and I… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

But you are not having a heart to heart, she is not your intimate, you are publishing comments anyone can read about a stranger and correct me if I am wrong, you would NEVER use the word psychosis to random strangers about one of your loved ones who had no such diagnosis, nor would you even discuss their mental health with said random strangers without their express permission if they did have a diagnosis, because you have respect for their humanity and their right to privacy and their right to determine who does and does not know about their private… Read more »

kmachine
kmachine

I feel very compassionate toward Megan Fox– I don’t understand why you think that I specifically am objectifying her. (I certainly understand why you might *expect* a stranger to objectify her, as that is a common dynamic in the celebrity-public relationship– but why assume?) As a celebrity participating in a magazine interview, Megan Fox is willingly offering the contents of her mind to the public– to me and you. I doubt she’d be surprised or disappointed to find that we’re all down here analyzing her latest public offering. Maybe it *is* “just gossip”– but considering there is no ill-will or… Read more »

andromeda
andromeda

Soz but seriously, you are defending this comment? “A lot of crazy people (usually the ones with a substance abuse problem) succumb to psychosis because they are profoundly disappointed with reality” ??
You speak about people as ‘crazy’ and call it honesty and compassion? You think the state our world is in isn’t disappointing? One tip-off I might be psychotic is that I am almost as disappointed as anon right now.

Anonymous
Anonymous

You are mistaking the discussion of ideas with personal comments about an individual. There is absolutely nothing wrong with “Fox’s ideas are wrong/strange/dangerous” whatever, there is everything wrong with saying “Fox is psychotic”. You don’t destigmatize mental illness by speculating, without any evidence, without any knowledge that a celebrity is mentally ill. You destigmatize mental illness by treating people who are known to be mentally ill with the same respect as any other person, by coming out as having a disorder if you feel it will help the destigmatization(eg Catherine Zeta Jones), by discussing mental illness IN THE ABSTRACT openly,… Read more »

Bats
Bats

Why should the comment be removed?!! Everyone’s entitled to an opinion.

I didn’t find kmachine’s comment offensive at all.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Psychosis is not a matter of “opinion”, it is a matter of fact. Nobody is entitled to their own facts.

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

If “kamachine” were a medical professional, officially diagnosing Ms Fox with “psychosis” based on an excerpt from an interview as a public press statement, there would indeed be cause for alarm.

Perhaps “kmachine” is unaware of the meaning of the term? Perhaps they should read this, and brush up on their mental health first aid knowledge:

Anonymous
Anonymous

Oooh interesting… I wouldn’t say she is psychotic, she is experiencing what is called magical thinking in psychiatric speak, which can be a symptom of psychosis, or new ageism, or spiritualism or religion, or grief or mania…. Many things can lead to these kinds of thoughts, discussions, statements, oh and peak experiences, that’s a good one for these kind of presentations,oh and drug use of course…. I think its just what she thinks and its kinda boring…Its fairly inarticulate, and makes no solid points. Shallow even. But I don’t really mind.

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

Interesting! I find the fact that she’s attending (what sounds like a Pentecostal church) and feeling like speaking in tongues, and on the other hand talking about here beliefs in leprechauns. It smacks of an open mind, or a somewhat random (hoochie style) rant. From what I’ve heard a belief in the “occult” is fairly frowned on in Pentecostal circles. She’s either quite broad-minded or she’s sick of them always yammering on about her body/looks so she thought she’d throw in some mystical stuff to break the monotony. She either believes it or doesn’t. Who knows, maybe she’s quite the… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Ya, speaking of bonkers views, remember Y2K? Well, I used to work with this woman, let’s call her Toro Prue who incidentally got promoted over me (that was fine, I left the industry before it crashed). She was the epitome of “sensible professionalism”, had a can-do, reasonable-leader type answer for most things EXCEPT she was a raging born-again Christian, ex-partying of course. And by ex-partying, I’m not talking about a compact when she powdered her nose. Anywho, she’d been living with this man for yonks, appeared to have settled down, had the sort of quiet but steady rep in the… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Oh and she also liked to tell us that she hadn’t washed her face in three years for fear of wrinkles, not that it worked.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

I love your stories! LOL! so nuts!
When you said Charo i thought of the cuchi-cuchi chick!

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

A bunker against Y2K? wow. Your stories are brilliant!

fallen angel
fallen angel

My stories? The unreality was bizarre, she tried to sell us on it. How there would be a massive energy shut down stranding everyone for miles, how we all needed to stock pile cash even if, potentially currency may be meaningless and the value of her seed catalog in a post-apocalyptic world would be much much more – this, THIS is the person selling you certified aircraft parts for the commercial plan you may find your self flying in. That I spent a good amount of my time with an incredulous expression on my face is an understatement, you know… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

soz that’s commercial PLANE. As in 747s.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Yes, HER!!! That chick. Apparently this one was doing the “Hay, Papi, ju so cray-zee” giggle giggle bit. I mean, I met the guy – he looked like he wandered off the set of a John Wayne movie.

You know I live a so-called charmed life (cough). 🙂

Pi
Pi

FA you’re going to LOVE this xxxx

Pi
Pi
fallen angel
fallen angel

HAHAHAHAHAHA.. OMG I just about peed my pants (I actually wore some today, jk). Thanks, Pi, that’s hilarious!!!

fallen angel
fallen angel

And OMG I forgot to mention, the restaurant Toro Prue’s partner was having his tete-a-tete? None other than Outback Steakhouse.

Of course. Maybe I was in Darwin. Or the state of Mind called Darwin where Irony does not exist. I just didn’t know it. 🙂

leogroover
leogroover

Offices are far more weird places than people expect.. Very ver y intimate in a good and bad way

huuuh
huuuh

omg mysticmedusa and dlisted…. my 2 fave sites…. have finally collided

<3

MK is a total gemini imo, what think you?

ayelienne
ayelienne

The Guardian UK was brutal about the Esquire piece – “Megan Fox and Esquire: the Stupid Off / The actor is interviewed by the magazine and the result is a piece so mindless that it demeans all US journalism:”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/lostinshowbiz/2013/jan/17/megan-fox-esquire-stupid-off

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

lol

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yeah well, for mine writing a summary of an interview with the rhetorical equivalent of a roll of the eyes is far, far lazier. Good example of how “entertainment news” is an oxymoron though, a self-cannibalizing oxymoron. God I love Peter Serafinowicz’s parody “O News” for skewering this shit. How is Megan Fox like an Aztec sacrifice? –she like so many young female celebrities, is treated by the likes of Michael Bay as a consumable. If you want a really excellent rant, read Megan Fox on her having to change costumes for Bay and another douche in what she describes… Read more »

andromeda
andromeda

I laughed at the piss-take & I love what you just said!
The way of that world is creepy, but she agreed to it the minute she did the strip show. Having said that I think the famous need to learn basic energy work to protect themselves.
They become the focus of extreme unpleasantness and need to buffer themselves.

Veronica
Veronica

Bravo Anonymous

“She isn’t professorial, so what, she knows how totally misogynist her industry is and she ain’t going quietly along with the BS”.

“The other way she and Spears, Lohan, Winehouse etc etc are like sacrifices is that they are treated by the public much like the biblical “scape goat”.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

dig it. scorp uranus fully approves. ah, the mad ones… burn burn burn!

luland
luland

LOOOOOOVE IT!

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

Slate did a pretty good response to this article, I think, suggesting the author was a little too into admiring her beauty…

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/01/17/esquire_s_insane_megan_fox_profile_was_stephen_marche_just_desperate_to.html

Curious Cancerian
Curious Cancerian

YES! I was going to comment on all this, kind of surprised no one else here had brought it up – I’m less concerned about Megan Fox’s views and more concerned about the appalling writing and obsession with ‘bombshells’ displayed by the interviewer. Vice also did a great deconstruction of it: http://www.vice.com/read/this-interview-with-megan-fox-is-the-worst-thing-ever-written-esquire

Ms.
Ms.

tick

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Hey, thanks for those. His shitbucket ‘journalism’ stood out for me more than anything, possibly even the leprechaun comment.

Raché (Aqua/Tauri)
Raché (Aqua/Tauri)

If it were a different magazine or newspaper I might be surprised, but as its Esquire it seems normal to me. They get hired to write in a certain tone that goes with the sexy pictures vibe.

MiloBloom
MiloBloom

“I am childlike in my spirit, and I want to believe in fairy tales.”

Is this a Leo Moon thing? Because I am SO feeling it.

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

Maybe. I keep believing in fairy tales even though they don’t manifest, lol. Leo moon 11th house.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

I think it’s healthy to keep child-like wonder alive.

VS
VS

I like her. I also like what she said in the interview. this doesn’t sound contrived or intoxicated. Her energy through the head experience has been described in Shamanic and folk magic practices directly. “Breaking Open the Head” is a great book about this, as well as-oddly enough- sacred drug use. Possession is described as such- fire of the body. her last quote is powerful. It basically says she is only captured by that which possesses her. It has to be fantastic, other, unreal to be a real thrill. Films are highly structured, organized fantasy possibilities…when you work on them,… Read more »

VS
VS

btw, Saturn is also transiting my Pluto…LOL.

Raché (Aqua/Tauri)
Raché (Aqua/Tauri)

I like her too!
She is a popular figure to hate on it seems…but I’ve always liked her. She isn’t afraid to say what she thinks, she’s a bit wacky, but I don’t think she’s nearly as stupid as everyone makes her out to be.

Olyalyalya
Olyalyalya

Yes!! I wish more celebrities would be open to and promote occult.

AstroGeek
AstroGeek

Someone could easily come to this site and poke fun at us for believing in Saturn transits, the influence of asteroids like Lilith and Chiron, Love Zombies, Qi Vampires and Good Housewitch cures. I agree that Equire was probably not the best publication to share this information with, and in the sort of, rambling, stream-of-consciousness way that they clearly presented it. But for the most part, I don’t think peeps that believe “unconventional” things should throw stones at other peeps that do. I have Saturn in Libra … dunno if that means I’m just wanting to be “fair and balanced”… Read more »

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

cool. bravo!
Those that live in glasshouses shouldn’t throw stones.
Astrology is considered pretty out there stuff for the average person.

GemCrab
GemCrab

Well said!

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

yep. clap clap.

groan
groan

exactly well said

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

DOESN’T ANYONE NOTICE HOW THE INTERVIEWER PLAYED HER FROM THE START OF THE INTERVIEW???

Why is it all right for Mystic to interview perfume making doula chicks with astro questions, drawing out their beliefs, but worthy of ridicule when an Esquire interviewer begins the whole interview drawing her attention to a detailed tale of a handsome Mayan sacrifice?

Because Mystic questioned with integrity and respect, on common ground, while the interviewer totally manipulated Fox’s weakness – her gullibility combined with fame monster contradictions. And he probably halped himself liberally to her stash and enjoyed the whole thing hugely.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

You make a totally valid point. The general media at large sucks. 🙁 They make their living from causing sensational headlines and marketing despair and panic.

However she’s rich. She can afford a writer to write her perfect little responses if she wants to. Lots of famous people hire somebody clever to Twitter for them. I don’t see why Meagan didn’t.

andromeda
andromeda

Maybe she wants to be authentic?!

andromeda
andromeda

My question for MM would be that if this stands out as a candidate for the label of ‘blue devil/hoochie juice’ induced talk, then what qualifies as acceptable?
Could it be that there is a tension or fear regarding your personal understanding of reality versus what the public as a group experience as acceptable to talk about?

david5379
david5379

I dont even like megan fox, or well, I dont care either way, I just got super irked at how much my peers raved for her, she hot I guess but shes not that great, lots of girls are hot, someone like kate beckinsdale on the other hand just makes me seethe, on the other hand I am not one to talk and I never even look for images for her on the internet or have a proper celebrity crush like most, something about super hot people I cant have makes me angry, like I am being bested by them,… Read more »

quintile
quintile

hehe – there is such a cult of self-satisfaction and entitlement with American celebrity – eg they always have the (self-proclaimed) ‘best’ spouse, the most ‘beautiful’ baby etc. I have to admit to a mean sense of delight when things then go pear-shaped for them ;{

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

Her ideas are somewhat interesting, but she should really hire someone to write that stuff for her for eloquence before she gets logged by a recording device/vid/whatever since she is so famous and all. A lot of people get on camera saying some jackassery at age 20. Then they realize for whatever reason that the footage gets famous 30 years later and they are all embarrassed then. Let’s put it this way; I know some real life examples. LOL

Pi
Pi

i am not saturn in scorp but i’m cool with what she’s saying. it sounds like a thought process I went thru in my early20s. although I think someone up there mentioned that Esquire mag might not be the best place for these ideas, which did occur to me… then again, who cares, they’re the ones who interview her and she can say what she likes. if all the stars sounded reasonable or appropriate in their interviews, then, like, that would be boring.

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

OK – I am curious – how many people who agree or sympathize with her rant are generation Saturn in Scorpio? Hands up

GemCrab
GemCrab

I won’t lie, I’m gen Sat in Scorp and I vibe with her thought process.

I appreciate her candor.

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

I don’t mean to imply being Saturn in Scorpio is a bad thing. And I actually meant Pluto in Scorpio. In another post here awhile back, we discussed the difference in Pluto generations and discovered that generation Pluto in Scorpio is way more into the super natural and whole foods than, say, Pluto in Libra or Leo. Perhaps she’s one spokes person for this generation?

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

PS – Pluto in Scorpio generation is 1983/4 to 1995. “Dark Magic Through their drive to live from the soul, they will transform our world, and free us from the tyranny of the superficial, the healed-over wound, the burden of denial. Only the deep and real will do for them. Many grew up on Harry Potter, and have a compelling interest in what’s occulted (hidden). They will draw psychopathic death-dealing conspiracy out of the shadows, and rebuild society on the ashes of what’s been purified in Pluto’s fire. They’ll create powerful art, music, story from their journeys into the underworld,… Read more »

GemCrab
GemCrab

I’m Pluto in Libra (despite being born in June 1984) as and was Vegetarian/Vegan for half of my life. Even worked for PETA for a few years.

My Pluto and Saturn are in the same house though (5th).

No longer veg (it didn’t sit well with me, was extremely anemic despite taking vitamins and trying to eat well) but despise factory farming and am very into organic.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

It’s crazy but refreshing!
I like crazy, hot chicks!
I share her Scorp Rising and Leo MC.
I love paranormal madness.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

ha ha absolutely! my life’s goal has always been to be a crazy, hot chick. the hot ebbs and flows; the crazy remains… 🙂 this is called LIVING.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

At least she’s not just stuck and boring and talks about expensive haircuts or shoes!
Now, if I bump into her we can talk about paranormal crap. lol!

david5379
david5379

look, im quite metaphysically oriented, but you cant believe in everything, kundalini tulpas energies, all well in good, but it cant all be true, you cant believe every single conspiracy theory alien siting you read, my friends are pretty metaphysically oriented as well, but they would probably laugh at that last paragraph, nothing is wrong with entertaining these out there ideas, but she seems a bit too willing to just believe whatever, loch ness? leperchauns? really? I dunno, shes a sheltered celeb with an ego, its not even as bad as it could be or scientology so whatever I guess

david5379
david5379

like, her direction is find, shes just at that middle school phase of it is all, she is looking at least, but I would not say she is on to it yet or she has found the stuff, if that makes any sense

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I agree. Its nothing that a good yoga practice couldn’t set straight. I hope she gets into yoga or something mind-body as opposed to conspiracy-survivalist projected physicality.

david5379
david5379

yah that would be really good for her, the amazing things end up being a lot more mundane than grand conspiracy themes, even the conspiracy probably going on is alot more mundane then most theories

Olyalyalya
Olyalyalya

She’s done pretty well for herself, don’t you agree?

david5379
david5379

to be fair, there are a lot of lies to wade through with this stuff in particular, invariably starting out, your going to make some mistakes and believe the wrong thing, hopefully she keeps looking and finds the significance isnt in the simple “shallow” stuff like loch ness and what not, these can be harmless fun, and a good place to start, but thats not nearly all it is at all, you mistakenly get caught up in a lot of lies trying to find the deeper truth, it happens, I guess the only thing is it seems shes at the… Read more »

Tropic of Scorp
Tropic of Scorp

“agree or sympathize with her rant ”

NEITHER. Just not even interested!!

Saturn in Aqua.

leogroover
leogroover

said

Olyalyalya
Olyalyalya

Ay ay here here Pluto/Saturn/Rising in Scorpio here…. she is NOT nuts at all. I really. really like her after reading this.

Veronica
Veronica

I don’t mind it (her rant) don’t mind her actually. Pluto in Virgo, but Scorp moon & Neptune

Am sure she got edited by journo too, to make her look silly, and she still said what she thinks, knowing that. Good on her

Star inspired
Star inspired

Oh yeah, that’s some mean Pluto/Saturn 12th House action!!… Fantastic example! A deep pulsing river of raw, hither to unaccessed/suppressed, molten lava crazy, seeping through from the unconscious… floating all manner of flotsam jetsam up to the surface, sans any functional filter…as yet. Its like she’s seeing & experiencing life as a huge scratch & sniff sticker & knows if she keeps sniffing & scratching, she’ll unearth the Bloody, Great, Fruit… The TRUTH! What I love most about this ‘Saturn/Pluto or Capricorn/Scorp &12th House’ combination of energies (which isn’t really represented in the text books), is that Saturn, rather than… Read more »

Scorp Sun/Moon
Scorp Sun/Moon

Clearly she’s not “ranting” but merely discussing the possibility of depth to the surface of what she sees. She’s exploring her life and wants to connect with us on a deeper level but is aware not all will be able to explore in this way and will consider her a “lunatic”. Their loss. I totally enjoyed the interview.

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

I’m with you except for the “We should all believe in leprechauns” line.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I have no idea who the chick in the undies is but I believe the daemonic reality exists, we don’t get to say which residents of it are real or not, we just choose whether or not to believe.

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

When you start telling people what they need to believe, you are crossing a line. That’s all I’m saying.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

yeah i’m with you 12th H! I’m not offended by the content just the pushiness of it. Like…you *have* to believe. No i don’t. fuq u.

groan
groan

Seems Megan isn’t the only one having something heavy. That anyone is offended by a woman in her undies talking about leprechauns says a lot more about the offendee than the tripper talking.

why so easily offended? you believe or you don’t – who cares either way? If I were going to choose anything to do with this to be offended about (and frankly I don’t have the time or inclination) it would be the objectification of women on the cover of esquire. but that’s just me.

andromeda
andromeda

🙂 Like

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

I feel the same way about Jehoveh’s witnesses knocking on my door as much as I do about people trying to sell FW1 cleaning wax…. pushy/manipulative people annoy me. Content is irrelevant.

absolute beginner
absolute beginner

It looks like her belly button is in the wrong place.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

Have you seen her thumbs, which are coincidentally not in this picture? It looks like she has toes there instead.

redqueen
redqueen

Huh, my daughter has thumbs like that. And while I don’t really care about Megan Fox’s beliefs and opinions, I do think stubby thumbs are kind of cute.

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

I had heard from the guy who did a palm reading for me that short thick inflexible thumbs mean the person has strongly-set beliefs!

fallen angel
fallen angel

Oh, EEL. Sure enough, I scanned for mention of the Thumbs and there it was haha.. But wot of the “epic rant”? This ain’t nothing new in H-wood, considering the industry is chock full of Leos/Leo Risers/Leo everything. I mean, one minute it’s once celebrity going on about quaint board games, the knitting craze, being terrible home bodies who want to do nothing more but sloth around baking cookies while reading something complicated – or – this, you know? I recall Evan Rachel Wood saying the Goddess Durga was her home girl, and apparently, Amanda Seyfried is into taxidermy whilst… Read more »

quintile
quintile

photoshop!!

quintile
quintile

ie the belly button!

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

Sorry but this is a Leo thing . This is exactly how i talk to my trainer when he is making me do burpees, the hover or fartlek training. Or during pap smears. She was probably just nervous. Or off her face. She has crazy bong eyes.

numoon
numoon

lol!

Seabird
Seabird

Yep, I think you’ve nailed it, she’s a bong-head. That explains everything!

Silver Huang
Silver Huang

I don’t feel like there’s anything wrong with what she said. It’s her opinion. Okay. So be it. What is probably inappropriate is that she’s ranting this to Esquire. Not the best crowd to rant about all this to.

But if having the ability to question everything and be willing to be open to mystery and magic is a sign of a heavy Saturn Pluto transit, then my whole life is probably a permanently heavy Saturn Pluto transit then!

Olyalyalya
Olyalyalya

Agree! She makes valid points, I think her ultimate questioning is death and meaning of life. This is exactly what your mind preoccupies with during Saturn Pluto transit, I just had mine and started reading a lot of Doreen Virtue, she discusses elementals in her text- leprechauns, fairies elves, it all makes sense.

Olyalyalya
Olyalyalya

Totally wrong crowd, she should have emailed Mystic.

Savannah
Savannah

Yep! She’s obviously a thinker, MM mostly brought out more cohesion.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

You know, I don’t know what’s more random… Her rant or the fact that reading it makes me feel sane.

GemCrab
GemCrab

Yes!

I don’t think she sounds crazy at all. I actually think she makes some good points. Perhaps not with the best examples, but still…

numoon
numoon

did you mean to post that here? think woohoo is saying MF sounds pretty off chops lol

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

Don’t get me wrong, I go on these sort of random belief spiels – but at least I try to be cohesive about it to come off as sober. As for the Leprechaun’s… I work with one. Bigfoot…. Well my experience is Bigfoot doesn’t always wear a big sock.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

…. And, you know, I’m not famous or being interviewed by Esquire. Of all the things she could’ve done with that reader space.

GemCrab
GemCrab

I did mean to post there but maybe I interpreted Woohoo’s comment wrong (?) I read MF’s comment and felt sane because I AGREED with a lot of what she was saying. I think she’s looking for depth and truth; searching for meaning. Thoughts of Leprechauns and Big Foot don’t necessarily fill my days but I look for truth, for more than what’s obvious. I don’t look to Megan Fox or Esquire for revelations and I felt this is perhaps the deepest thing I’ve heard her say. It made her sound as if she has a soul which is more… Read more »

dia.astro
dia.astro

when saturn was on my pluto, that was when I opened my mind to things most folks would consider batty, reading tarot, sacred angel circles, saying things like “when saturn was on my pluto”

I give her credit for suggesting fame/celebrity is the antichrist.

I was totally with her up until the leprechauns.

numoon
numoon

+1

Raché (Aqua/Tauri)
Raché (Aqua/Tauri)

lol, sadly i know what you mean.

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