D.I.Y Astro: Chateau Pluto

One aspect of Pluto that it is always worth looking at is when Pluto changes houses – yes you need your chart to look at this.

When Pluto changes Houses, there is often a sort of crystallization of all that has gone on and been learned during the process of Pluto through that house. Given that the Transformation-Planet tends to take over a decade to traverse a house, this can be quite profound.

And if you think about the themes of that house (see The Houses category in the drop-down menu on the right for more on each House and what it means) and how they have evolved during the time Pluto was there – VOILA, major insights, perspective and realization that you’ve been rebirthed. Pluto right at the end of the House is around about where you burp up any meconium and maybe cry a bit to exercise your lungs lol. 

In 2013, Pluto is between 8 and 11 degrees of Capricorn – so if you have a House Cusp anywhere near those points (eg; my 12th House cusp is 13 Cap) you’re doing this too.

Oh and all right, even if Pluto is nowhere NEAR the end of one of your Houses but you’re feeling it or have something strong going on 8ish to 11ish degrees of Capricorn, this is your forum to share rebirthing tips.

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Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

I’ve had Pluto transit my 1st house, now it’s toward the tail end of 2nd and what a hell of a fuqing journey thus far. Looking back, when Pluto was on my Ascendant was when I first tasted liberation of sorts, the authentic friends, the authentic environment, as an escape from “home”. Pluto goes into my 3rd house late January 2015, and I can feel some of the things brewing, esp. siblings and communication. I’m in no rush re: both, and am taking the time in cutting off the association with a half-sibling, esp. since with our “family” (for lack… Read more »

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Pluto is currently in my 5th and has been there for a few years, the cusp of my 5th is 24 Sag so as far as I can work out he’s been in my 5th since the end of 2005/beg 2006. In this next year or two I’ll have Pluto transiting my Cap conga line of moon-Lilith-Eros-Juno-Vertex… Pluto’s retrograde through the end of my 4th coincided with a major physical illness which led me to therapy where I finally dealt with my family-of-origin issues once and for all. It was hell at the time but such a valuable experience and… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

5th house is also the house of ROMANCE, Chrysalis, and i would say you’ve been dismantled there for better things to come x

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Oh fuq yes Mille, I forgot about 5th house and romance!! Shows you where my head’s been at 🙂 Thanks for the reminder xx

krissy
krissy

For a minute there, I thought maybe you were talking about Pluto in a progressed chart. I must admit, this has been a little more daunting than Pluto squaring my Moon by transit…

krissy
krissy

Pluto progressed from my 4th house to my 3rd. It has changed the main women in my life (4th house) AND guiding/father-figure men in my life (10th house). Sister and mother: significant health problems. One with gyne probs associated with age. The other, sudden death is a very real possibility due to her health condition. Beloved, guiding grandfather died (10th house) along with a mentor who was on the same page. At least when I cry lately (not excessively mind you, but when it happens), it’s from missing and remembering those who have passed instead of life’s trivialities. And, I… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Strange I didn’t think of it immediately- when Pluto crossed my 4th house cusp my parents got divorced and my sister got cancer and later died. And then I got divorced. It’s been a rough 6 years, but I am stronger at my core now.

Charley
Charley

Hardcore Pluto fatigue. Too tired to even contribute and kind of rational, non swearing based advice or comment.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’ve been super fatigued lately too. Trying not to self-guilt over it.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

i don’t think rationality or lack of swearing are prereqs for posting here! xoxox

sweetpea
sweetpea

haha, do you know how many drunken posts I’ve done over the years full of cuss words and I rarely swear in person…lol

Charley
Charley

Ha ha! I know! Me too. I’m just on a different schedule (time wise) from everyone else these days so I feel like I come here, blurt my stuff and don’t have enough time to contribute before things move on or there’s 9’000 comments!!! Had Pluto on the ASC, square actually, yuk. Just backed off but now it’s hitting my Venus, with the exact same sitch. Tired. A Pluto zombie and I’m Plutonic within myself, transforming and phoenixing is the name of my game but this is to much. Especially with Uranus following the same path in a conjunction, ASC… Read more »

maru67
maru67

Cap is in my second house going into my third house at 15º; both houses are completely empty; nothing in Cap at all. But Saturn is *killing* me. Saturn will be on top of my Scorp Asc in about four months, but I’m feeling it now. Thing is, Neptune is conj acs and in exact opposition to my natal moon. Last time this occurred I was sixteen and attempted suicide.

sweetpea
sweetpea

Yeah, Sun 11 Aries so game on for sure.

John
John

I’ve had Pluto in my second house for some time now. But recently has been the worst! Lol. I have natal Pluto at 7° Scorpio, Mars 9° Sag, Saturn 10° Sag, Venus 9° Pis, Chiron 9° Gem, Psyche 10° Gem, Moon 9° Cancer, and Ceres 10° Virgo. Grand square, grand trine. He’s also sesquiquadrate my MC at 25°. Obviously, money and work has been an issue. With the SQD to my MC, I’ve been looking to change my career, but so many things are being affected by this transit in every aspect of my life. Needless to say, it’s been… Read more »

John
John

Oh, and I have Eros at 9° Cap. Again, big changes.

redqueen
redqueen

Went and looked up my previous Pluto house action, and the death throes of the previous (1st) house were no match for the ugly transition into my 2nd a little over two years ago. Wow. So much muck around money, resources, income, and job stuff for our one-income household. As Pluto’s been slowly trucking along in my 2nd house, though, it’s been getting a little better. And clearer, but I’m impatient.

I have nothing natally in the 2nd house, so this is making sense.

Girl
Girl

My ascendent is Cap at 13 degrees and Pluto is almost at the end of my 12th house. Finally. It has been there FOREVER. Apparently it buggers off for good at the beginning of 2014. I board a plane on a one way ticket to Paris to begin a new life on Tuesday. Have been crying buckets the last month though, as terrified that I am making a mistake. Quite how Paris can be a mistake is beyond me. Today was a big day though. Today I finally became EXCITED.

Lucy
Lucy

Getting through with mala beads and cupcakes.
Dependent on both as everything is firmly shifting and changing.

Taurean Alchemist
Taurean Alchemist

Well that explains a LOT. Pluto is right at the end of my seventh house… 8th house cusp is 11 Cap 22. Pluto is also also trine my 10 Tau (11th house) Sun and square my 10 Aries (10th house) Venus. I suppose my 9 Gem ASC must be affected somehow too. OH boy. Are my relationships completely transformed. YES. I haven’t had one for years but I’m a different woman than I was when Pluto transited my natal 7th house Mars (and I left my ‘husband’). I relate to others differently. I feel I’m finally ready to have the… Read more »

sweetpea
sweetpea

I hope your wishes come true TA!

You have so many signatures like the THT, (triple horn toro) even the same Sun degree and Venus degree…

If he is a dud, can I give you a go? lol x

Taurean Alchemist
Taurean Alchemist

Lol Sweets. 🙂

ps. your THT sounds *awesome* 😉

sweetpea
sweetpea

For sure! 🙂 … Sagg Mars like you too

wildwood
wildwood

OK I don’t think anyone has mentioned Pluto transiting their natal Venus? Well, that’s what I’ve got going on, in my first house (Venus @ 8 degrees Cap). I guess this is supposed to be about the rebirth of my self-image as a woman…?? But the last year of this (I think it started around Feb) my self image… dunno, all I can think about it trying so damn hard to get anything started career-wise, and as yet, almost nothing is happening. I got a very small contract happening… that’s it. For a whole year. And the rest of my… Read more »

VenusRules
VenusRules

When Pluto transited my Venus in Sag, nothing. Zilch.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yep! My 7th house cusp is………10 degrees Capricorn. Pluto is approaching it right now…..

Wonder what Pluto will do to my 7th house of ‘marriage and partnerships’? Ha ha! Oh man…..

Well, I’m not married and have no boyfriend or any prospects in sight, but this may play out in business. I want to start a new business so maybe this will bring a heavy duty biz partner…? What do you think..?

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Natal Pluto in late Virgo square Mars in Capricorn, Pluto trine Saturn in Taurus. This poster is the story of my life! Trouble is when you don’t have to fight anymore. Today my physio told me a body story about anger, breathing and connections in the body, from neck to shoulders to chest, ribs, small of back and flexors. From my struggles with certain exercises i’ve been doing, the way the struggles grow as the days take me further away from my last physio, i understand his story because these are exactly the places i note, with breathing changes. He… Read more »

davidl
davidl

‘Trouble is when you don’t have to fight anymore’

Reminds me of :

whats a man got left to fight for when hes bought his freedom

Matt Johnston

Huuuh
Huuuh

I too have Pluto entering the 12th at 9 deg Capricorn. I have shed a LOT of friends/illusions about other people . I have Mars/Jupiter/Eros conjunct at around 4 degrees Capricorn. Neptune is part of that clump, but it’s in the latter degrees of Sagg. Let’s just say I feel a lot different about men/what I will tolerate in any kind of relationship. . I have reached this utter culmination of facing every one of my dysfunctions and my role in interpersonal relationships and I am SOBERED (it’s the only way I can really describe it).

VenusRules
VenusRules

Pluto is almost going to get to my 9th house cusp at 10’22 Cap, but then go back into the 8th for a while. Frankly, Pluto in the 8th has been no or low drama after a lifetime of Pluto transiting almost every planet in my chart – more like a rut. No sex. No inheritance. No children. Paid off the credit cards. Nobody died, knock on wood. Pluto in the 7th was just a hard, hard siege. My true love left just as Pluto hit the descendant and the last 20 years have been trying to get over it.… Read more »

juno
juno

Heh, 9th house, could be the house of your second partner!

http://mysticmedusa.com/2011/03/the-astrology-of-your-second-husband-or-wife/

VenusRules
VenusRules

That’d be nice – someone all multicultural and smart and 9th-housey.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I found this little gem in Dana Gerhardt’s essay on Pluto in Astodienst (here she is speaking of Pluto transits):
“It’s not the transit, but our resistance to it that creates the pain.”
Pluto has been going back and forth over my 12th house cusp since early 2011 (7 Cap) and I for one like this approach – just go with it and practice gratitude for the opportunities it throws at us.

juno
juno

It won’t be until this time next year until Pluto rolls properly over my Ascendant, so I am experiencing the end of 12th house stuff still and it’s been 16 years! of uncovering my true flaky nature, or alternatively alchemically transforming my secret self ready to unleash on an unsuspecting public. I like the graphic and will include a couple of dragons on each shoulder. Here’s to Phoenixing 2013.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

Here’s my crude analogy. If we think of my first house as a room a room decorated by Neptune (which is in my natal first house)… Well Pluto is the puppy dog running back and forth shitting all over everything. And no matter how angry you feel… It’s a puppy. It’ll bring you joy one day.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I hear you – but Pluto can’t be a puppy. Its much more like a cat – doesn’t give a shit how you feel or if you’re happy – just keeping it real.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

Hmmm, good point. Although my cat made herself sick once when we had to keep her housebound as she will only go outside when no one is looking. So…. Maybe instead of shitting all over everything: like a cat sharpening it’s claws on all the furnishings.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

And marking territory in all sorts of unsavory ways.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

Oh hell, I forgot that part.

I really need some happy transits to my seventh house. Pluto in first is killing me…. And in actuality is a transit to the seventh isn’t it? It’s in opposition to my darn seventh house stellium. No wonder I feel rubbish!

Astraea
Astraea

I have Pluto in my 1st house Libra, conj Mars + Venus + Asc. Going through Pluto, Mars, Venus and Asc squares and MC opposition. I’ve been wrung out, terrified, terrible, stuck and also hounded by my dreams all because I’ve been furiously resisting my shed. Negotiating ways around the phoenixing, exploiting the strengths and bargaining to avoid my weaknesses, unwilling to accept the great big awesome that will only come after some painful confrontations. I have a humbling confrontation like this tomorrow, the first of many, I’ve been putting off for a year and devised a lot of strategies… Read more »

dia.astro
dia.astro

wow… thanks for sharing. what a beautiful and perfectly described pluto transit. sounds extremely similar to my pluto DC transit and the ensuing process of how I almost reluctantly (!) broke free from abovementioned abusive relationship, after years of believing lies because it kept the status quo… pluto and chiron were sextile in a yod formation to Prometheus on my north node, on the day I finally rose up. The Cosmos is no doubt supporting you too.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

“I’m looking forward to seizing the amazing energy I’ve been denying myself and diverting into maintaining the most worthless of status quos. ”

EXACTLY! Mars+Pluto+Mercury first house Libra here.

I don’t WANT anything any more. Its weird. I’m just done. D-o-n-e done. Que sera, sera. Pluto square Pluto+Mercury transit going on right now. Over it.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

i’d like to share a short film a friend made as he went through massive pluto transits. it captures the pre-phoenix essence for me that your post so beautifully summed up. big hugs to you… that’s way intense. and total apologies to everybody for blathering on today. 😯 http://vimeo.com/49853819

Astraea
Astraea

Wow thanks so much for the energy everyone! I woke up too stressed and lonely to think straight and am feeling a little braver now. Just when you feel so low, a shared story and the outstretched arm make all the difference <3

Tks dragonqueen for the riveting video!

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

awww, all the love in the world to you. and a stressed and lonely community with occasional displays of bravado to at least pretend to be ok… xoxoxo

dia.astro
dia.astro

Jesus! I’m still wrapped up in hotel chiron. That DIY astro turned into a 3000-word essay and counting about how the chisel of depression tore delusion away from my soul, culminating with my total awakening over the last year with his rerograde over my MC… anyways thank you for these DIY ideas, you are keeping me off the therapists couch for the rest of my life.

dia.astro
dia.astro

but I will briefly add that 29 sag is my DC, so pluto in cap was simultaneous with pluto in seventh house. and of course this coincided exactly with meeting my sun-moon-mars-merc-in-cap abuser.

Miss Leo
Miss Leo

Pluto moved into my 12 house (at 6 degrees, Neptune is at 5) back in late May. I had to figure out exactly when this had happened. What a wonderful transformation that was; it was like literally entering a dream world. In the months prior, my grandmother had died of breast cancer, which was beyond horrible considering I was very close with her. The living situation I was in got drastically worse seeing as I couldn’t find anything better than a part time min wage job, and to make matters worse, my boss there was a huge bitch and absolute… Read more »

Aquagem
Aquagem

Eek! Pluto in 8th till 2030 who knows where I’ll end up!

Aquagem
Aquagem

Sorry but whilst have Pluto transitting the 8th have Pluto square Pluto going on. Anyone have any experiences with this transit they can share?

Aquagem
Aquagem

Pluto is sitting exactly on the cusp of my 8th house. Wow, just checked and have had Pluto transitting 7th for around 13 years!! In this time have been married, divorced, met soul mate although that meeting was found in a world of shit and have since married soul mate! Jeez! Power of Pluto, 2 marriages & 1 divorce! Also just had beautiful bubba and have found myself in the best place have ever been in in terms of relationship. Pluto into the 8th scares me a little!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Has anyone heard about the football (American) player who got busted for having an imaginary girlfriend? Since we’ve talked about love zombies and debated male/female love zombies here, I thought the story may be of interest.

They’ve made a marketing campaign out of it – complete with fake guests and give-aways…has love zombiedom gone totally main stream?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/01/18/manti-teo-girlfriend-bobblehead-night/1844689/

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

Even The Onion is making fun of him, poor love zombie: “Why? Because I love you, Manti Te’o. That’s right. Lennay Kekua, an imaginary human who does not exist, is telling you that she loves you. I know it’s crazy. I know we’re probably all wrong for each other on numerous physical and metaphysical levels, but I don’t care. I want you back in my life, or rather the system of non-actualized identifying descriptors I refer to as “my life.” We can still make this work. We can still be together, albeit with a somewhat looser definition of what constitutes… Read more »

david5379
david5379

I read about that, I feel bad for him, thats like, really really embarrassing, like, why the hell would he do it, people dont even know, hopefully hes just gay, otherwise its a pretty weird thing to do

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Dude – I can’t believe you threw the gay in there. Projected masculinity is a fine line to walk, eh?

david5379
david5379

wait… did I say something wrong?

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Just that male sexual identity could be question by foolish fantasy. It’s not mean, just a painful assumption. Everyone is susceptible to falling in love with an illusion.

david5379
david5379

i thought the point wasnt he had an imaginary gf, but that he lied to the press that his gf(not real) died, that could be a pity play, a cover so people wont bug him about not having a girl, or any number of weird things, I thought he didnt actually “have” an illusionary mate, or fall in love with a made up person, just that he lied about something weird

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

Gee, I think I have only ever fallen in love with an illusion. The person was flesh and blood though

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

That wasn’t meant to be a comparative statement in any way other than whether the person exists flesh and blood matters not, an illusion is an illusion. If it’s a publicity stunt, well, whatevs

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’ve been under Pluto square transits for years now. I have Pluto in my first house Libra between Mars and Mercury. Going through Mercury and Pluto square Pluto now. All I can say is it empties you. Everything I thought about myself was gone. Nothing in my external life really changed. I feel this desire to change (Uranus opposition) but nothing seeds. For example, I interviewed with a company in a town I want to live last summer. The energy of the connection was great! Took 6 months to get my financing straight and now that it is, I looked… Read more »

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

Pluto transiting the 1st House/Scorpio was rough. It happened to me when I was a teen/young adult. I experienced intense abusive relationships during that time period. Here I always blamed Saturn in Taurus/7th House natal for difficulties, but I think Pluto played a part. It’s toughen up or get beaten down vibe. Do or die. I survive with many scars physically and emotionally. I did work hard with Saturn’s help in my 5th House and plowed through college maintaining straight A’s even dealing with abusive alcoholic/drug addict boyfriends and a full-time job. Seriously, do not know how I did it.… Read more »

virgmooncrab
virgmooncrab

Loving this DIY astro! In case anyone’s having a 6th house Pluto transit… The last time Pluto changed houses for me was from 5th into 6th (while still in Sag) – workwise, the first year was HORRIBLE. I freelanced on two projects back to back – one was Heaven and the other was Hell. I learnt SO much though. Major epiphanies about what my boundaries around work was. Things stabilised, but I wasn’t happy. When Pluto was hanging out in the last degrees of Sag, I got inspired about my next steps, quit my job, left my country, moved to… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

when pluto entered my 7th i left my long-term relationship for some random obsession which didn’t work out. when he left it i left my now marriage to the same guy for some random obsession which didn’t work out (or maybe, in slo-mo, who knows, not the point here). in between, on the second pass of the dc i got married. had children, learned to be a partner (NOT something that comes naturally), learned to accept responsibility, and learned what not to accept. realized that ultimately, i could only change myself. the balance of give and take. hope that helps!

virgmooncrab
virgmooncrab

Thanks for sharing, hiddendragonqueen~ (love the name, reminds me of Game of Thrones :)) Hope things will go the way you want them to.

What’s really jumping out at me is, “learned to be a partner” – non-existent in my natal chart, also why I’m single most of the time. Don’t even have any planets in my 7th, and its house ruler, Saturn is all cozied up with my Kataka Sun in the first house.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

thank you! the name is an homage to la melusine, my most fabulous ancestress, but game of thrones works too.

learning to be a partner is complicated and as hard as it gets. i can’t pretend i’ve gotten it down, but i’m better than i was… it will have to do. 😉 maybe, since pluto only transits a few houses during our lifetimes, those are the things we’re meant to get this go round. hm, especially with a 1st house sun… yep. good luck to you!!

virgmooncrab
virgmooncrab

that’s so cool! ^^

omg, thanks so much, I’ll be needing tonnes of it! All the best for your 8th house journey too~

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

yeah, moving into my 8th house has been interesting. first round last spring was an amazing escapade into the dark side, then retro’d back to my 7th while i destructed my marriage and clarified through oh so much fun what it is that i need in a relationship. fully in the 8th now (cusp at 8.33) and i guess my normal occulty interests have become less happy hippie goddessy and mmm, darker. gearing up for the pluto square and pan trine and i just found out last night, ephemerizing my “power moon” that the pluto-pluto square will actually be a… Read more »

david5379
david5379

its just been opposing my mars in cancer, besides a new work out regime, I guess, i dont really know what thats doing, sides pissing me off!

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

triggering all these huge shifts you’ve been having, perhaps? 🙂

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Yeah. You have been sharing some important insights regarding how you present yourself in relationship to others. And that whole angry-at-hot-people thing….that’s something you need to take to Plutoic levels and get over. Your sexual identity and aggressive instincts are taking a beating. You’ll gain authenticity if you just don’t judge yourself or others and roll with it. Not saying that you’re judgmental, but Pluto is dark and raw and it can be hard to accept that part of self.

david5379
david5379

Ya I think there is something there I dont know about too, that was on the bottom of my list tho and now that I got that other psychological stuff out of the way I have been thinking about it lately, its weird, on a fundamental level, I am unwilling to admit to myself that I am attracted to whoever, it feels like I am losing or being bested, like literally for me, the feeling of really wanting someone sexually and anger are the exact same thing, I dont feel angry at them, just, angry, like, really really angry, I… Read more »

david5379
david5379

maybe I am angry that I want them? or angry I dont admit it completely? something

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I have 3 things I want to tell you. It may be advice, if you recognize yourself in any of it. It seems random, unrelated, up to you to make the connection. 1. When I was in labor, I thought I’d do it natural. But, for various reason, I got put on a drip. Couldn’t move. Went for the epidural. When it came time to push, the pressure was intense. I felt like a hefty bag in the commerical – where a person is trying to punch their fist through it, but it won’t break. The pain. The midwife said… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

PS – I told my girl about Virgo things – about the ever present to-do list of perfection I have in my head. She said Aries doesn’t care about any of that. lol!

david5379
david5379

hmmmmm, I do have venus in aries, uggh, I guess the problem is its such an out there all or nothing energy that I am kinda internally stalling, like, I cant care that much and be so unsure, what am I, crazy? dick swinging needless ego risk is so contrary to everything else I am, maybe its like a part of me I am disowning, and because of it there are metaphysical ramifications

david5379
david5379

also its a fire singleton, like, the only fire planet I have, so all my fire deficiency is centered around this venus hang up maybe

david5379
david5379

I thought it was saturn trining my sun and mars, but maybe it is just pluto, or both or something

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Pluto is asking you to transform. Deep, earthy, worms, dark, aggression, spiders, snake, fear, passion, transform.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I think it’s all Mars. Accepting aggressive, irrational energy as part of personality is HARD!! Aries and Mars and Uranus and Pluto and Saturn are all players right now. And aren’t you having a Chiron transit.

quintile
quintile

interesting thread – david, I have mars natally in libra, which can really manifest as pass-agg with people I’m attracted to. to counteract this I am trying to increase my agency and healthy ego, so that I can better manifest mars energy and not have it go underground and pass-agg. At work, I have worked this less-good placement so that as a team leader, I am very good at seeing multiple points of view and mediating between options/people etc. Also, a weak mars placement is really helped by exercise, taking iron etc. Turn the energy into positives not pass-agg. good… Read more »

quintile
quintile

PS to clarify further, in sexual /love relationships I tend to hand over power to the other, then get pass-agg towards them, feel frustrated I’m not getting what I want etc. By being more empowered, I am able to be assertive not aggressive.

david5379
david5379

hmm, that is an interesting take ha, instead of telling weak mars to man up, which only makes it pout, just give it a normal thing to start with, I work out regularly(3 times a week), but not everyday, and I should start playing pick up games of soccer again, for now though, until I get super fit, I am just suffering this anger inwardly, and it has to go somewhere first before I can use it on people properly is what your saying, its weird, when I think about my mars, I dont see it as pass-agg, just suffering,… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

that’s good to know! anemia caused by mars placement… interesting. thank you!

david5379
david5379

it is hard, its like a whole subject that is necessary and yet I have not up until this point addressed it, I dont even know what to do, hopefully events will transpire that I can work through this, otherwise this is just too much on my own, and ya Im having chiron on my dc as well, approaching my sun

GeorgeSand
GeorgeSand

Interesting. Pluto is currently transiting my 12th house. (Have four more degrees to go until it hits my Ascendant.) It’s been intense but fruitful, albeit painful at times. Feeling some ambivalence about it going through my first. Yikes!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I wish I could find an astro aspect to blame for my root-chakra-explosion kundalini-experience-thing-I-can’t-explain. It was seriously intense – like the hemispheres of my brain were being rewired together and I was on better-than-ecstasy all the time. But I can’t even pin that on Pluto on my IC – 26 Sagittarius, the galactic center no less. Pfftt…maybe…Pluto is a slow mover. It crossed my IC in 2007, I was divorced and having my spiritual-awakening soul-mating madness by 2009. I don’t know, guys. I don’t see that astro predicts anything. Its useful to know the cycles, that we are part of… Read more »

david5379
david5379

you never know, uranus out of all of them will surprise you

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

giving up the idea of ever having a partner again IS a fundamental shake-up in partnerships… not the physical reality but the underlying assumptions. perhaps it is wiping your slate clean so that when a partnership does come you’ll be light and free of both cultural and personal baggage. how could an uranian relationship begin otherwise? i can’t imagine, just from all you’ve shared, that your soul could tolerate anything less than full uranian visionary brilliance and revolution in a partnership any more. right? you’re holding out for an equal and i imagine he is a rare bird 🙂 i… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You’re right – I want something authentic and evolutionary. I’ve got Uranus in my 7th opposing all my 1st house stuff – and nothing is budging accept my attitude. I’ve had Pluto squaring my first house stellium for years. You’d think the Universe would throw me a bone after that soul mining, but no its all “individuate!”

There was a moment when I was going through my Venus-Pluto transit and I heard myself tell myself “You’ll miss this one day.” It def was a personal artistic renaissance.

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

exactly. authenticity or nothing. are vesta and lilith aspecting anything of yours? mine are at the base of a yod with eros and i had a breakthrough the other day when i realized that their desire for independence and individuation is key. the fact that they’re transiting gemini is why nothing’s happening for me. no eros till they get past my ac, hm probably till they get out of gem altogether. so be it. it’s not a lack of sex, it’s a lack of worthy sex. we could easily go down to the bar and pick up some random dude,… Read more »

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

I’ve got Vesta at 11 Scorpio in my natal – so Saturn is on it right now. And Lilith is exact on my SN (14 Gemini). Saturn is squaring my natal Lilith (13 Aqua) and my moon (13 Leo). Why didn’t a Saturn transit to my moon show up on astro.com? Whatever. I think that means Lilith is also aspecting my moon right now. Not sure what the aspect would be with Lilith (14) in Gemini and moon in Leo (13). Its like I have loads of info but no insight into what it all means. I’ve never been one… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

yeah, i think those transits would do it. 😉 a vesta-lilith-moon t-square – how perfect is that?! with saturn grounding it at the mo. amazing priestess energy, ushering in the virgo regulus new age. 🙂 🙂 🙂 i’ll lend you my 11 toro pan (yes, i’m obsessed, sorry) to throw in some pre-patriarchal male energy for balance. 🙂 lilith sextiling your moon just amplifies the feminist theme. i didn’t realize she’d gotten all the way to 14 already- that’s my jup-nept axis- but it makes so much sense. onward!!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

T-square, eh? I am SO bad at figure out transits and what they all mean.

Feminist energy – I suppose. I feel post-feminist. Like – the war for rights has been won, now its about demonstrating, living that power. Why can’t that involve sex? lol!!!

Thanks for the Toro energy!

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

i know what you mean about the feminist label… equality and the assumption of such is second nature and yes, can we just move beyond this already? but then there’s a cultural debate over, you know, what constitutes rape or some such ridiculousness and it brings home the realization that it is in fact not even close to over. so i claim the label even though it’s a box. same with witch and other words… it’s making a public stand i guess even though i’m personally beyond it. it can and definitely DOES involve sex!! but it must be sacred… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

As long as women keep having sex with guys for the wrong reasons, men will be to distracted to have sex for the right ones.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Wrong reason being, for their her self esteem

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Capricorn is in my 3rd house. I don’t have my house descriptions but assume it is related to career after googling the house descriptions. Right now, I am on cloud nine with social life. Friends abound… I said to one of my new friends last night that she causeD this to happen.. in a good way. I met her and “bang” all of these new friends came out of the wood work. She is an incredible person.. so loving, happy and confident. No wonder she has a multitude of friends and boyfriends. She doesn’t turn people down. You want those… Read more »

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

I also have Pluto in Capricorn in the Third House. I thought it was about Communications/Community. Do you work in Communications as a career? I do but as a writer, singer/songwriter not in a corporate setting. I did working in non-profit and in the non-profit Arts fields on and off. My communication style has always been intense. I prefer deep, thought provoking conversations about the arts, music, Jungian psychology, literature, politics, religions, to paranormal over gossip, fashion, makeup, shoes and small talk. I love great avante garde fashion and anti-fashion movements (underground streetwear biker, rockers, punk, grunge movements), just don’t… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

can i join your fanclub, sr? you fuqing rock!

VenusOwl
VenusOwl

Pluto has just arrived in my 1st H Capricorn, conj my AC . . . I am that dreaded freak of of nature – a double Capricorn, with Moon and Mars in Scorpio. And yes, in case you’re wondering, I am one intense chick. Pluto in my 12th was a time of soul excavation, demon-busting and spiritual growth. There was a very dark time, but I came throgh it … More later. Am off to my ShrinkRap to strategize my Pluto/Saturn fueled Operation Phoenix plan.

Anonymous
Anonymous

My Sun is 12 Cap and is right near the 4th/5th house cusp (5th starts at 13 Cap). This post makes sense to my life right now. I was writing in my journal last night about how I feel like my life is changing, especially issues of home/family.

(Astrodienst always says that says my cusp is so close that I’m actually a 5th House Sun instead of 4th–is that right?)

swee&fierce
swee&fierce

Oops–above is mine.

PM
PM

Bah! I have nothing even remotely close to 11-13 degrees on which to blame my shitty, energyless, flat, stuck, depressed, relationshipless, sore, cramped state of being.

Fire fish
Fire fish

Wow this is facinating!! Pluto is just heading over the cusp at 10 degrees into my 11th house. House of friends amongst other things and this really helps as there has been such a sudden and heavy emphasis in my life in the last few months on my friendships and social circle. Normally I’m a two friends at a time gal with other very close friends that I don’t often see but love dearly which affords me lots of alone time which i love But lately the amount of socialising has been overwhelming to the point that yesterday I put… Read more »

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

heck yeah boundaries!! sounds like some internal alone time is the key, especially, as we just learned, chiron on the ac is a MASSIVE identity crisis… make space from the friends and find YOU. xoxox

Anonymous
Anonymous

Is this from MMs post the other day? Have been trawling through the site looking for all things on Chiron fuq!! An identity crisis!?! Really?! Right I’m on it !! Any and all info on Chiron pls send here! ) hmm just remembered another mm post on hotel Chiron will re read that too! Thanks HDG! Xx

hiddendragonqueen
hiddendragonqueen

yep, hotel chiron! good luck and blessings!

yesh
yesh

joy! roughly a year and its out of my 8th house..good riddance! I’m quite “friendly” with pluto generally but this has been one of the less fun decades, with a couple of potentially fatal incidents thrown in for good measure…

berry
berry

So that’s what lies ahead for me… damn 🙁

davidl
davidl

Pluto entered my 7th a few years back and just finished a conjunction with my natal Saturn at about 7 degs ? went on for years. It’s early in the 7th for me. The conjunction was difficult for about 18 months and then bang the last 6 were amazing ! As Pluto in cap sextiles Saturn in Scorpio I now get a nice Saturn Saturn trine. My relationships changed in that time but nothing drastic. The real transit issue turned out to be work. I worked on one piece of software for the whole 2 year transit. It will soon… Read more »

Andromeda
Andromeda

Argh! Just learned I have been having Pluto transit my 7th House since flipping 1999!!!
I mean, I practically don’t know anything else.
What the hell happens when Pluto stops opposing my Venus/Saturn & skedaddles out my personal relationships sector?
As a Pluto Moon person will I be ok?
Pluto is 5 degrees from leaving my 7th.
But that happens in 2015! I guess I will just relax & enjoy the intensity…

equilibrium girl
equilibrium girl

Bah! It’s still conjunct my sun (8 deg Cap) and my IC is at 11 degrees Cap. What joy. But I am finally making a move on my script. FINALLY. It’s been simmering for too long and I’ve gotten too attached, preferring to hide in fantasies of future greatness rather than just pursuing greatness/ failure/ reality. Bad bad habit. So I’m going for development funding, I’m handing my little baby over to unknown hands to read and tear apart and spit on, but maybe it’ll lead to something awesome. At least I will have DONE SOMETHING! As Rache quoted above:… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

I have Sun at 8d and Pluto at 11. Pluto squaring em both. Double shot. sheeeeeeeeish !

Anonymous
Anonymous

It’s only going to trundle over asteroid Persephone at 11 almost 12 degrees. Mars is ON the cusp of 2nd house Cap, and i survived that transit. Pluto transitting Mars is a deep deep rage or resentment. There was none of the fire fuelled petty irritation and need to blow off steam of the Mars transit I had over Pluto. This Pluto transit was far more productive and important for the descent into my own underworld that i have been carrying out. Oh, there’s Persephone. Yes, i expect this will mark this layer of soulmining quite particularly. I am natal… Read more »

berry
berry

Haha, it has been transiting my 7th house since forever. It first went over my natal conjunction of Saturn and Uranus and now is transiting my Neptune. Yep, I had my quarter life crisis already. So not fun. But I can appreciate it because I went through hell and came back. Although, I really wish it moved faster… really. Can’t we boost it?
On a side note, knowing what it can do makes me slightly concerned for the time it gets to my 8th house. Any survival stories?

Anonymous
Anonymous

PLTO in 9th hose and always thinking abt god or no god and woke today to distressing news abt dolphins being killed in Japan and i was thinking that all the psycho peeps that kill kids in schools why not channel that energy to kill all the bastards that are destroying all the dolphins in the sea there??

They deserve it i hate it so

soon there will be none left and the sea is all red there it is FCKEN EVIL we need to care

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

I wonder that too. If they feel the need to kill why not be a vigilante? I immediately think of Dexter.
Why kill innocents. It baffles me.

Veronica
Veronica

I feel like that about all animal abuse, anon, my instincts say “just mow down the f’wits, the world doesn’t need ’em – and they shouldn’t be allowed to breed anyway, the world is overpopulated as it is”

I’ve got round to thinking there must be a legal and lasting way to fight power abuses in my own life and I will find it

Veronica
Veronica

Pluto around my natal lillith at 11 degrees

Oneironaut
Oneironaut

I cannot tell you how relieved I am to have Pluto finally move away from my IC/Neptune.

Now I notice that Pluto is squaring my mercury/venus … Interesting, as I have just (in the past few days) realised that I need to get better at communicating, specifically the making myself vulnerable bit. I’m also taking my creative writing more seriously than ever, even contemplating writing something long, bizarre and wonderful. I know if i’m going to pull it off i’m going to have to dig deep. Would that be a good way to manage this square?

Raché (Aqua/Tauri)
Raché (Aqua/Tauri)

If you guys want some excellent inspirational Saturn/Pluto reading check out “Finding Ultra” by Rich Roll. He’s a guy who went from overweight hamburger binging, depressed lawyer to vegan ultramarathon champ in the span of five years. Reminds me of the AWESOME “The Iron” essay that Mystic posted some time back. Here’s a line describing the night before his 40th birthday when he changed everything: “Yet in that precise moment, I was overcome with the profound knowledge not just that I needed to change, but that I was WILLING to change. From my own adventures in the subculture of addiction… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Great timing Mystic. Pluto is right on my third house cusp which is at 9 6 Capricorn. I’m very Plutonic: moon conjunct Pluto in the 12th with hard aspects (opposite Jupiter and Chiron, square sun and mercury), Scorpio rising and Mars r in the eighth house. Saturn transiting my Libra 12th house was vile and so I was preoccupied with that but will go and think about this instead. Could do with a spot of rebirth and have noticed that I’ve been hoovering up the Pluto Juice recently.

MoonLilith
MoonLilith

The above wasn’t meant to be anonymous: internet connection playing up.

PerfectPisces
PerfectPisces

this is all confusing & i’m too high right now but i;m still trying to do it. Planetary disposition.

Aquaria
Aquaria

Timely, it’s about to change from my 7th to my 8th in about a month. Off to crystallize something…

Anonymous
Anonymous

Hi Aquaria, I’m in the same situation. What did you feel with Pluto in the 7th? Pluto has been screwing my Venus in the 7th forever now. The result was the longest dating drought ever and plus obsessing over a platonic plutonic love. Learning how to deal with control issues in a relationship the hard way. Which is not bad for a multiple Scorpio, but hey enough already Pluto! I’m scared about what comes next when it hits the 8th house.

juno
juno

Look, I just wanna crawl into a hole right? AC 11Cap38, Merc 12Cap, Venus 13Cap.

PerfectPisces
PerfectPisces

yes i want to too. i wanna stay home.

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

I’ve had the strangest low day for a long long time. Cancelled my day and stayed in bed (slept mostly, needed the dreaming). Felt really depressed and got really annoyed with my flatmate trying to wake me/feed me/drama queen antics re calling a doctor. Tried telling him I just needed to be alone (wtf!). Being a Gem he can’t shut up. He got the message eventually.

Pluto exact opp my Moon and Neptune exact conj my Asc today.

juno
juno

Take care FF, nourish yourself, reassure your friend. Pluto opposite moon will be feel dramatic at times. I remember Neptune on my Ascendant. Can’t blame all my dreaminess on it though.Set a simple daily routine with occasional breaks for mindful meditation. Would have been good for me too.

Anonymous
Anonymous

What a brilliant idea! Neptunes on my moon at the moment, right at the beginning of Pices when it moves on it’ll be heading towards my Venus. All in my 12th… Simple daily routine. Rostered meditation. These shall be my mantra. Thanks!

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