Leo With Narcissistic Personality Disorder

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Vintage art couple kissing in cherry blossomsDear Mystic,

This is not a joke. I actually did fall in love with a Leo with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.Β  Fleeing a several month long period of crushing personal tragedy (family member – suicide, close girlfriend – fatal illness, enough said) I ran away to work on a luxury goods magazine in Asia. Grief does strange things to you. I hooked up with my Leo editor/boss my second day of work. He told me to watch out as he had N.P.D. but that he disagreed with the diagnosis. He was hot. He had boxes of Chanel perfumes and champagne all over his desk.I decided he couldn’t have that much going wrong with him.

Here’s a little ditty on the highlights (lowlights) of going out with a frigging NPD Leo when you’re so doped up on grief you can’t see straight:

You discover he has had three big courses of plastic surgery: lip suction, a chin tuck and a tummy tuck. The plus side of his excessive vanity is that he actually does notice when you’ve had a haircut / worn a new dress/ lipstick etc.

He leaves a really important work meeting because he needs to get his highlights done at the salon then texts you to demand you deliver him a sandwich while he’s getting the foils put in

He roars at you about how selfish you are if you deign to ask him if he’s done something he clearly hasn’t (installedΒ  a computer in the office for the new staff member, bought a fridge for the new office when he drove 120 kms into the nearest big city, no, he bought himself a heart rate monitor, new shirt and new runners instead then drove back. Everyone has been BYOing milk to work because there is no fridge.)

He literally announces he has finished something by saying ‘I’m awesome.’

He has such a crazy weird jealous streak he doesn’t talk to you for two days because you left the office to do an interview and he didn’t know where you were for 20 whole minutes.

When he’s had a few drinks he becomes the loudest person in the room and cuts everyone off even more than usual so it’s quite insane to witness, then pays for everyone’s drinks to make up for it.

He never starts a conversation by asking a question, but rather proclaiming his awesomeness in whatever realm he feels is the focus of that meeting.

He has no male friends. Only ‘staff’ who he bosses around. I kid you not.

He needs the entire ensuite walk-in wardrobe in our house for his clothes and i have to hang mine up in a bedroom cupboard downstairs.

He has about 50 hand made italian shirts

He buys designer watches online when he’s stressed

His favourite thing to do after abusing his staff / girlfriend , and crushing their self esteem is to go and buy the nearest victim an expensive gift – iPod, vintage wine, clothes for example -.

His Facebook status updates are always about the latest thing he has bought.Again, i kid you not.

When you are being ‘selfish’ and crying as it’s the first anniversary of your best friend since childhood’s death, someone he never met as you weren’t’ in a relationship yet, he walks in and throws the mail at you then says “I don’t know why you expect me to feel upset about it. I mean, I never met the girl.” You then borrow a book on grief from the library and he throws it out in the rubbish bin in a fit of rage and says ‘you’re wallowing, I’m helping you move on’.

Oh!!! I forgot to tell you something else he did after we broke up – I told him I’d broken my foot last year after we hadn’t spoke for 18 months and was finding it hard to hop around and not exercise for 3 months and he took it as a great entree to complain about a scratch on his face (YES) that he got while surfing in Hawaii!!!! AS in ‘yeah things haven’t been the best for me either’!!!
Out. Rageous.

Love, the Pisces In Paradise.

PS: But he was really, really really good in bed. A therapist friend told me that people with N.P.D. quite often are.

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CinnamonBun
CinnamonBun

Leo men tend to be narcissists, I avoid them like the plague. Same goes for Leo Mars men.

pisces sun, leo rising, aries moon
pisces sun, leo rising, aries moon

Wow! I am blown away as I lay here with palpatations, emotionally done and just sick emotionally and physically addicted to the ” good sex”. As I wander if I’m on the brink of some sort of psychiatric break. So in love with my bf who is Leo with a Pisces rising and a Scorpio moon.As i begin reading these fabulous insightful post from you bright conscious ppl, I couldn’t stop reading to the very last post. I strongly agree with Aries/pisces connection to NPD. It’s intense as I connect to it from my Pisces sun and Aries moon. I… Read more »

Sonia
Sonia

OHMYGOD!!!

Why is it so many of us pisces end up totally smitten with crazy leos???

I’m still very much in love with my weird, weird leo boss who announced that he should’ve done “anything” to avoid being alone with me, even if it meant being rude to me and that I “had planned the whole thing” after we hooked up for the 3rd time (!!!) lqst december, when I can assure you, I was not. I was slightly more preoccupied with moving to India (we were both in France at the time). Sigh…

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

You guys are the only ones brave enough to walk in Lion country. seriously. I hear it all the time…. Libras go best with Leos. I ain’t never dated one or even been personally attracted to one enough to do anything about it. I have some good buds who are Leos though, men and women.

Pisces with Sagg Rising
Pisces with Sagg Rising

I think a friend of mine is involved with a Leo with some sort of personality disorder. He’s got some weird hold over her. They’ve broken up twice, and I’ve been the therapist both times, trying to explain to her what is going on psychologically (in short, he’s neurotic and possessive) but both times she’s gone back to him. Thing is, she’s got venus in Leo so she likes a bit of drama. Last year when she broke up with him, because he had cheated on her, she was soooo melodramatic, saying I had saved her life because she was… Read more »

Link
Link

Keep an eye on your friend.

anon
anon

long fingernails? 😯 Ewwwww !!!! No it’s not just you. That’s revolting.

huuuh
huuuh

oh my god yes that is disgusting…

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

What kind of job does he do that he gets to keep long nails???? office work?

Pisces with Sagg Rising
Pisces with Sagg Rising

He’s in IT. I’ve tried to convince her he’s trouble but as I’ve said, I think they meet each other’s neuroses.

Link
Link

Mine was a Cancer, Aries rising, Virgo Moon. Psychopath. The combination of ‘spectacular intelligence’ as he liked to call it, and pure spite was too much for me. I realised as I sat in my car out the front of his house with nowhere to go, and a million miles from anyone I knew, that I was actually catatonic. Very weird, detached, but fixed, sick feeling. Probably like heroin or a massive dose of hormones to calm you down, protect you and render you motionless. I also knew, because I was watching myself be catatonic that I could recover–eventually. We… Read more »

Piscean in Paradise
Piscean in Paradise

LInk that is amazing. You just described how i felt. I was inert. Frozen. I stopped being able to eat, think clearly, do anything. It was seemingly impossible to get out of there on my own, thousands of miles from anyone i knew, but i did it. I just kept thinking ‘this isn’t me, this isn’t me’. But it’s taken over 18 months to feel vaguely okay about it and just this blog post is so cathartic, to know i wasn’t alone. The rages he’d fly into over the most tiny things i’d say or do… and i just remembered… Read more »

LInk
LInk

It was really hard to read your email to Mystic, because so much of it resonated; the possessiveness the walking on egg shells, bad moods that went on for days and days. Insane jealousy, keeping tabs on my every move. It was so bloody dramatic. I didn’t know what was going on for months. But on day two of being there (I moved in with him–OMG ‘duh) he changed from Mr Do anything for me to Mr would not even look at me. I said to him completely innocently, it just blurted out— ‘Do you have some kind of personality… Read more »

huuuh
huuuh

There’s that grand water trine again….

Andromeda
Andromeda

I agree that it is trauma related, my Piscean Pa was born in ’39 in a war torn country. He ended up in Nazi Germany. (I have this amazing pic he did at 5 of an American soldier shooting a bird out of the sky while the Sun cries).

Andromeda
Andromeda

That Aries Rising seems key now!

huuuh
huuuh

Narrowly avoided getting involved with an NPD male awhile ago. Except he was a bit scarier than this leo. He definitely had the whole hypercritical hyper observant thing going. His ideal girl, he openly admitted, had to possess a long list of very specific requirements. I was perfect until I stopped meeting one of the requirements. Anyway, this dude wasn’t so bent on declaring his awesome-ness, but actually feigned a lot of interest/concern/what have you. He asked a lot of questions. He made you feel cared for. It was all an act. There’s a long string of women who were… Read more »

Andromeda
Andromeda

Interesting…Pisces/Aries theme is familiar in my NPD person too.

huuuh
huuuh

That aries/pisces combo is unfortunately my kryptonite. The two types of charisma combine to form some ultimate form of magnetism.

aurora lights
aurora lights

apart from what i wrote above, in my learnings so far, i used to be a very fearful, insecure and needy young woman, who didn’t have a strong sense of who she was – so it was no wonder then, that i hooked up with a highly independent and sure of himself character who i became emotionally dependant on, who turned out to shatter my sense of self even more. i survived by taking responsibility and basically growing real and positively affirming relationships, which then showed me who i really was, an ordinary person who was kind and who deserved… Read more »

gemyogi
gemyogi

Well done Aurora!
p.s. love your very thoughtful and analytical posts

aurora lights
aurora lights

thanks gemyogi πŸ™‚

as a survivor thru this hell, so far, i want to share what i think i’ve learnt – i am no professional – but if it can help someone else, well, i struggled to find answers for so long to this stuff.

i sincerely have enormous empathy for women and men who suffer with the NPDs in their lives.

Jumpin in
Jumpin in

I was thinking, apart from the make-up-for-being-a-jerk gifts, what was in it for he?
And there, at the end, like an after thought….he was great in bed.

Amazing what a girl will put up with, if they are good in bed! Memories of an offer I said yes to, from a guy I never would normally have even contemplated/been attracted to, cos he was a legend in bed…and it was my birthday!!

But never would my clothes go into a downstairs cupboard….

Jumpin in
Jumpin in

*what is in it for her ….

andromeda
andromeda

Lates NPD Piscean Pa freakout mo for me was after invited him to a dinner with my in-law’s friends. The wife didn’t have great English and my father was doing enjoying trying out his rusty French. We got to the topic of my dear brother who passed away 5 years ago.

He proceeded to turn the sad story of his son’s demise into a cute essay in his best school-boy French – the real focus of the story being his AWESOME French obviously.
Completely bizarre emotional disconnect. The guests were horrified/confused as were we all.

andromeda
andromeda

He is Pisces Sun, Mercury & Jupiter in the 12th with Aries Rising and an Aries Moon, Saturn and Pallas in the 12th too.

andromeda
andromeda

Actually he might be Toro Rising, but the rest would be the same.

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

This made me laugh! I agree it is awful when a man notices everything about your appearance. Too much pressure! I suspect my ex of having NPD, but my question is how do so many get diagnosed? Wouldn’t that have to involve their admitting something wrong about themselves?

gemyogi
gemyogi

“I don’t know why you expect me to feel upset about it. I mean, I never met the girl.”

Un. Believable.

Great story!

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

yeah, what an ass.
Lacks empathy. RUN!

Anonymous
Anonymous

That makes me want to throw stuff in a rage

aquafleur
aquafleur

Hey , I think my ex must have had narcissistic personality disorder, but he is a Libra. Seriously can relate to much of this.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Have a Libran narcissist ex. He had been accused of being selfish so often by women that he started to use the term to get himself out of trouble when he was pulled up for his passive aggressive tendencies. He must have thought that appearing like you understand your flaws makes the behaviour ok.

On other front. Have toro parent who has written me off due to age and lack of children. I’m a loss.

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

Oh, god, the descriptions of this guy actually made me feel physically ill! I had to stop reading at the lip suction and highlights… I’m sorry it just gave me the heebee jeebees. Good thing you eventually did escape… I actually don’t like it when a man notices every little detail on me (this in response to the NPD Leo hyper-active vanity radar). Just recently got out of a relationship with a Scorpio, and at first I thought it was great that he actually noticed what color nail polish I wore. But when he started mentioning it every time we… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

I get this from certain women. They seem to think i should enjoy the compliment as they look angry or confused when i don’t, but the real truth is it’s intense scrutiny and with scrutiny comes judgment. I say thank you but probably not with my body language. I wouldn’t take that from a man.

PerfectPisces
PerfectPisces

Omg. I’m a pisces too and I’m talking to a Leo. Not only is he a Leo he’s white. I’m a black woman for the Caribbean. I’m actually scared at getting out there and start dating.. so I’m still waiting to be found.

pearlchampagne
pearlchampagne

Sounds like a character description of ‘American Psycho’.

The Klaw
The Klaw

Haha! I was just thinking the same thing!

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

exactly! NPD and a sociopath.
Sociopaths can lead normal lives annoying the shit out of everyone in their life without actually killing or committing depraved criminal acts.

fishgirl
fishgirl

SO TRUE!!!!

2beuti4him
2beuti4him

Been there with a Leo too – in fact I find Leos in their ‘normal’ state are almost indistinguishable from those with NPD but that’s another issue – but my own experience with a full blown Leo, Saggo rising NPD warped specimen, while raising all my antennae that something was very ‘off’ with this character, he proved to be the Pluto tool (LOL) my karma/destiny whatever needed to teach me to pay more attention to good ol’ Saturn common sense rather than to my animal instincts. Yeah, it was like being pulled down into all the lo qi primordial stuff… Read more »

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

I know it’s weird, but aside from NPD, i think Leos and Pisces are a good match. I know a couple who have been together for over 40 yrs…Leo female and Pisces male…. seriously their couple chemistry is like wow! But yes the Leo has a horrible spending habit but she has borderline personality disorder. But goodness….reading this just reminded me of the 2 of the them. She was also a health freak…super vain…..pantry looked like a health food store and bathroom looked like a salon with the amounts of products used just for hair! 2 full walk-in closets!! one… Read more »

Liz
Liz

Run run run from the all consuming flame of a true narcissist. Not a criticism but the most suspect point in the story above is the word “diagnosed” – narcissists rarely admit to any sniff of imperfection and rarely carry a psych analysis very far. The Leo must have been court ordered to do so.

I’d go into details but my NPD’s are my parents (a Sagg and an Aqua) and most do not believe the details — unless of course they are familiar with the actual experience of being the offspring of an NPD.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

I would never engage in a close relationship with a NPD person ever again. I do not even like to deal with them on a casual basis now. Talk about crazy makers!
If they court ordered they must at one point done something to warrant a psych eval. Domestic violence etc…
I no longer try to fix, I just run! Run with the wolves far, far away.

Saturn Girl's Ambassadatrix
Saturn Girl's Ambassadatrix

Wow – both? How did they end up together, may I ask?

Anon
Anon

Wow Liz, you did well to grow up sane!

I went out with a diagnosed NPD person, they didn’t tell me, I found out by reading their diary πŸ™‚

Extremely chilling – will crush you if you stay. I agree, run as fast as you can, there’s a good website http://www.halcyon.com

Absolutely unable to empathise and no morals whatsoever. Will lie, fly into uncontrollable rages, suck the soul out of you.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

NPD’s would try the patience of a Saint.

Liz
Liz

NYC. Early seventies. He, a tightly closeted bisexual maybe fully gay – charming, handsome, young aspiring actor from a hard luck family. She, a tiny sweet-faced and beautiful woman-hating wildcat from a hard luck family. He was the shiny prize she had to win. That the others would be out-manuevered was a foregone conclusion. They divorced after a few years of a violent sideshow and two daughters. It is impossible to be the dependent child of an NPD and emerge balanced. It took me an embarrassing number of years grasp how it affected me. I am grateful that my father… Read more »

fishgirl
fishgirl

Liz I read in a study on self-perception, that narcissists are so blissfully unaware of how much damage they do to other people that they often rise to the top of professions and ‘sway’ people through sheer (false) self-perception. It’s the people who see themselves clearly (and feel bad if they perceive to have ‘hurt’ someone etc etc) that really suffer and hang their heads low. It seems a degree of blind narcissism helps one rise to the top…or survive.

Liz
Liz

Yeah Anon, anyone/group who is perpetually certain that in every given situation that they are the most correct, deserving, righteous etc. can accomplish a lot by hook or crook. I’d say the polar opposite is asceticism which won’t accomplish much in a worldly sense and at its most extreme is also a form of selfishness on fire. The in between – the balance between these extremes is, to me for whatever that is worth, the highest path.

PlutoVenus
PlutoVenus

I love this statement. You are one cool woman!

Was going to add the NPD people I know are also robustly healthy and well off. Makes a mockery of all that Louise Hay and Rhonda Byrnes bullshit. Although, as fishgirl says, they aren’t even aware they are doing damage. Mostly they think they are doing us a favour by bestowing us with their presence and inflicting us with their demands/needs.

And I’ve known narcisstic shits on both sides of the ascetic materialist coin.

Liz
Liz

The rage is the worst. Frightening.
While you are hooked into the investment/addiction for the NPD you are capable of doing ridiculous things in order to feed the beast and keep the nut happy.

david5379
david5379

I hope he meets a scorpio at some point, hes just asking for revenge, seriously SOMEONE has to hand it to him, and obviously I am generalizing

Ms.
Ms.

πŸ˜€

david5379
david5379

πŸ™‚

Miu
Miu

I’m a Scorpio…. And I could treat him just the way he’d like it….Bat him up! *wink

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

Scorps do sting Narcissistic Leos!

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

they can just sting anyone who crosses them in general.

david5379
david5379

I’ll bet! And hearing the way my scorpio friends fantasize out loud about revenge(to be fair to them, they just like taking it too far to upset my delicate sensibilities, my delicate delicate virgo pisces sensibilities), they would probably even enjoy it on some level, finally someone who they can just fully rip into and destroy, the full skill of there destructive genius finally allowed to reek havoc, all justly mind you

leogroover
leogroover

That is exactly what I do with my Moon in Scorp powers to my Narciissic Leo mate. I love it. He ignores me or goes into a sulk but someones got to tell him he is being a dick. Ha!

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

πŸ˜‰
Love hurts.

Piscean closed for renovation
Piscean closed for renovation

I know it’s perverse, but I laughed at the line where he ‘buys designer watches online when he’s stressed”…I just imagine a super-hunk in ultra-dark navy fine italian-milled wool, one hand raking through his $200 hairstyle as the other is frantically clicking through the latest range from Longines or Tag looking for salve / anaesthetic for his wounded soul / ego / schedule…

glad you’re out of that, dear piscean in paradise. and i am most sorry to hear of your terribly sad losses of friend and family member before that. xx

Ms.
Ms.

yes sorry to hear. do not take my hysterical as a lack of respect more your comical retell of his enormous insensitivity being so OTT> x

Ms.
Ms.

This is hysterical. I know your pain. I should send a secret email about my Leo father, on par with this in a very different way. Kudos for the escape. My last dinner with Leo father is on a post here somewhere but to recap, I even got a Lion analogy about dating and how I am getting on therefore loosing my looks/ damaged goods now that I have been sick that I cannot score the head lion now under such conditions. This was after his how are you and me telling him only in the shortest of terms my… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

to which I said. you are still a dick.

ArienScorp
ArienScorp

lol

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

πŸ˜†

andromeda
andromeda

Shades of my Multiple Pisces Narcissistic Personality Disordered Pa here – he is always banging on about his incredible ancestry…

I got him a genebase genetic test. He was so annoyed not to be related to Marie Antoinette – or GHENGIS KAHN. Lol.

Rox
Rox

slogging it out with the serfs- thems the breaks
πŸ™‚

Andromeda
Andromeda

Lol! Yes, he disparaged my mum’s ancestry, we are not as blue blood as him no doubt.
Gem Hub said puzzled, ‘whats good about belonging to a group of inbred, unethical power mongerers? Wouldn’t it be more amazing to belong to the family of a genius political insurgent?’. He is so Uranian.

Rox
Rox

haha genius rebel DNA love it !
This psychic guy (right about many other things) said I was alive during the times of Cleopatra, the end.

No glory insights forthcoming. ha
Probably hauling rocks up the pyramids like everyone else ~ or maybe telepathic floatation of rocks via alien mentors giant brainpowers or whatizit ? lol

I have South Node in 10, fame is soOo last life. xo

Morphing now
Morphing now

really, really, really good in bed is really really hard to leave behind…….

Piscean closed for renovation
Piscean closed for renovation

oh I AGREE. jaysus

Kimmy
Kimmy

Interesting. How does someone so disconnected end up being good in bed? Do they use the moment of sex as a ‘cover’ for deeper expression? Are they good because it makes them look good? Do we define good as physical, emotional, spiritual. . . what is good?

I am very curious about this connection between NPD and great sex.

david5379
david5379

maybe they just last longer because they aren’t as in to people that aren’t them, so it doesn’t really do as much for them as it ought to, and so they can last longer, that’s what I assumed anyway

samantha
samantha

longer time does not mean better….. there is nothing worse than longer time when it’s average or indifferent.

Scorpy
Scorpy

Hahaha! Too true Sam!

Kimmy
Kimmy

My word. Truth πŸ™‚

aurora lights
aurora lights

imo and experience, NPD peeps have had terrible lives and suffering (their memory of it might not be conscious) – which is why they learn the defence mechanism in the first place, to cope with life, not to say that this excuses how they abuse others…just that as children who suffer trauma have no cognitive sophistication to deal with negative experiences or abuse, but the emo memories are set in place for a lifetime for eg. and hence all the adult dysfunction in rels. imo, they were basically never accepted or loved for being themselves from an early age…they had… Read more »

david5379
david5379

I dunno, It seams more like it is not the attempt to win people over, but the attempt to have everything about them at every moment at every opportunity to a total all encompassing compulsive degree about themselves, not a performance but a selfish grab for relating things back to their own importance, so they snuff themselves out of real actual deep attention, because they grab at every little chance of it at every moment, even when it means complaining of a small scratch, it seams like a total shell at all times entrapping them in their own constructed ego,… Read more »

aurora lights
aurora lights

agree with you David πŸ™‚ my boy needed a ‘mummy’ bigtime, problem was i never realised just how or how much till i left… please excuse my optimism, NPDs are no easy or fun life and it can seriously mess up a woman, like it did me. i certainly don’t mean to ‘make light’ of it or pretend it was all easy and magical – it was hell and i nearly didn’t make it. my realisations took a long time and lots of painful self confrontation too, the thing almost turned me into a bitter monster in my response to… Read more »

david5379
david5379

I didnt mean to paint you as making light of the whole thing I am sorry, and you probably know more than me by experience alone, I was just making a little point on the love thing, but its a tenuous one anyways

Aurora lights
Aurora lights

All cool cool David πŸ™‚

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

I agree wit the early childhood abandonment/emotional abuse issue. i think you are spot on.
Emotionally stunted and damaged. But, they can heal but they need to want it instead of seeking mommie wives or gf’s to fix them.
It’s really draining dealing with NPD. I just don’t have the patience. The one I dated nearly killed me in fits of control and rage issues, so adios amigo!

iris aquacat
iris aquacat

Perhaps NDP folks like the control they get from being an attentive lover – so many rewards in other areas for very little time investment in just the one area….that; and all the practice they get with various randoms outside of the relationship. The person who cares the least always has the control, don’t you think?

leogroover
leogroover

Very true Iris kitty. In my former life as a desperado I was always the one who jumped and made the effort. Now its like meh! Even the Oracle said treat x mean to keep keen. I been doing it for ages now and it works and I have more control over my own life.

Piscean in Paradise
Piscean in Paradise

I find it really hard to describe Kim but I’m assuming his ego was so big he just found out what i liked and did that to the tenth degree. Also, there is something sociopathic about such arrogance out of the bedroom but really exciting about it in the bedroom. Also the weird jealousy, i couldn’t even mention anyone from the past – the anger was formidable. He had this sort of Mills and Boon way of stating that ‘it all starts with ME!’
And my God it was hard to leave. But I did.

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯

Kimmy, I have a Leo friend who defines herself scoring high on the NP from the Meyers- Briggs thing and in the same breathe states she is excellent in bed and all of her -name drops – bedmates agree… 😯

😯

PlutoVenus
PlutoVenus

Kim, NPD people alternate between charming and callous often wildly and unpredictably to keep their victims in a state of permanent insecurity, which keeps victims more pliable. Their whole aim is to get what they want.

In bed, they know they’ll get better sex if they deliver. They also don’t want to be known as a dud root as it’s too damaging to their all important ego.

PlutoVenus
PlutoVenus

Oops, I meant image, rather than ego. Image is everything in NPD. Hence the preening.

aurora lights
aurora lights

short reply πŸ™‚ it was the emotional side of the experience that i experienced as fantastic, because i felt it was the only time he was genuine with me, without all the mind fuq games. the physical was really awesome, but more so the emo connection to me.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

That you have left this “relationship,” have clarity about it, and are *in paradise* speaks to the success of your recovery. Kudos, PIP, and Goddess-speed.

iris aquacat
iris aquacat

If it’s any consolation Narcissism isn’t Leo specific at all IMO…this is almost word for word the story of my Scorpio Sun Taurus Rising Capricorn Moon ex husband…not even a smidge of Leo in his chart! And yes, one is indeed in paradise once they’ve moved on to a new host to suck the life force out of. Beware the person who’s only “friends” are employees or sychophants.

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

(Hey Iris Aquacat, loving your pic there. Green snakes: yesssss please)

Electric Eel Libran
Electric Eel Libran

I have to agree that a guy who doesn’t really have guy friends…even 1 real male friend…. something is wrong.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

yes, a big RED FLAG!
If he hates his mother- RUN! Run as fast as you can far, far away!

iris aquacat
iris aquacat

Thanks Scorporation, inc n Scoralicious!. And Scorpiorising :-)…I was going to mention mother hatred but thought it may be too gender specific (does it work the other way?) Even mother ambivalence is a big red flag in my experience. I’m joining the chorus for RUN! Fast, far and never look back.

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

I suppose deep hatred for either parent would be a red flag. Some parents are however, extremely abusive. eeks!
Tough call but, if a guy disparages or adores his mother (in an unmotherly way.) RUN!

Scorpalicious
Scorpalicious

love your avatar too Iris Aquacat.

Looks like Guido Mocafico’s work. Love his stuff

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

No shit, I dated a NPD (clinically diagnosed) Double Scorp with Aqua Moon.
I do not blame his astro charts at all. He created his own disorder.
What a nightmare.
I have close Scorpio friends and they are fiercely loyal.

aurora lights
aurora lights

Right on Red Flag – no real friends = no real relationships,

even if they have a zillion acquaintances,

and particularly if they are so independent they don’t ‘need’ or get any joy from friends or bother to put in any effort to do socials just for the positive emo energy to be enjoyed –

yet complain no one loves them or invites them and people only ring them when they want something etc.

leogroover
leogroover

sounds exactly like my Leo sun/pisces rising male friend. However, i don’t let his whinging get to me. I ignore it. He is so totally stuck in his own Narcisstic world he can’t move. He has lots of other lovely Leo traits though – very generous as long you pay him back in champagne.

Anonymous
Anonymous

good for you LG, champagne is good πŸ™‚

Anonymous
Anonymous

AL here πŸ™‚

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

yup, holy crap. we’ve met/dated the same dude.

Aurora lights
Aurora lights

Yah πŸ™‚

The Klaw
The Klaw

Ahh! I’m a Pisces and I just did the exact same thing! I date da self absorbed Leo. (A Sun, Moon, Venus in Leo). He had a major projection problem (he projected his feelings on those around him), his friends were never paying enough attention to him(he complained about it all the time), all his close friends are women and was always telling me what I could do to “chase him away”. I asked him one day if he ever thought about what he was doing that might “chase me away”. He said no. My problem is that we just… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

It’s not a problem to miss him, it’s natural. And it’s not so much him that you miss, only the familiarity of the situation. Even when it’s messed up, familiarity is strangely comforting… Before too long, your New situation will become familiar, and he will be just a blip in your history. No worries.

The Klaw
The Klaw

Thanks for the wise words. πŸ™‚

scorpiorising
scorpiorising

Been there done that, got the tee as they saying goes.
Leo wasn’t diagnosed (that I know of) as a NPD but, really could have been. He had five closets for his clothes and over 200 sunglasses. He was in love with himself. He was not a model type either but, fancied himself to be a Calvin Klein model. He clearly wasn’t in reality.

fishgirl
fishgirl

They never get diagnosed.

Claudz
Claudz

My mother is a Leo with narcissistic personality disorder (Saggitarius Ascendent, Aries Moon, Venus Leo conjuct Sun and Pluto in 8th house) who was married to my Pisces Father for 21 years. She left and none of us miss her arrogant ass at all. Yucky!

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