Can Leo and Leo Work In A Relationship?

Eighties Avant Garde

Can a Leo woman and Leo man work in a relationship? And what if one of them is a womanizing Leo playwright and the other is a Triple Leo Actor?

Dear Mystic,

I write as a Leo ( a god-damned TRIPLE Leo) humbled by circumstances of love and in the desperate need that you or some of your readers can offer advice to alleviate the situation in which I find myself.  Simply put – I am an actress (mostly theatre, some television, I am not famous but my face would be reasonably familiar if you were to see me in the street, think B-List with A-list aspirations) – and I am in love with a Womanising Leo Playwright.

Not lust. Or whatever you call the emotion that fuels a useful professional short-term coupling but love. SO stupid and I know it. It has undone me. The few friends I have had the courage to tell think I am absolutely insane and that I should be in therapy. He’s congenitally single and anti-commitment. I want a relationship with him.

My horoscopes said the love mania for Leos was supposed to be over because of Neptune now? Is it so wrong of me to think that I can change this man and become Mrs. Womanising Playwright? My fantasies involve not just sex with him but us becoming an actual power-duo. How does one tame a man like this – is there a secret to permanently seducing Leo men?  All the other Leo men I know are gay or prefer very young women. 

The next step in my mission is to go to the same meditation school as Womanising Leo Playwright. I plan to sit there in full lotus, in clingy yoga pants and a Stella for Adidas top, hair very Gwyneth and impress him with a dimension he has not yet seen. People, I know this sounds bad but I worship this man. Nobody else has ever awoken my energies like this. Help, please?? 

Respectfully,

Triple Leo Actress

Dear Triple Leo Actress,

Neptune out of your opposite sign WAS meant to sober up crazy love Leos. This sounds more like a super-strength Pluto-Venus transit. Or Pluto Descendent. I don’t think there is anything wrong with loving a Womanising Leo Playwright and if he is actually single, then, of course, he could fall for you. I’m not so sure you sound like the sort of person who would be happy lurking at home editing scripts or paying the bills whilst Womanising Leo Playwright ponced around festivals or wowed other women though. A Leo woman and Leo man work brilliantly together when each person has a stage/creative outlet to themselves and there is massive mutual respect.

What does everyone else think?

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harp
harp

There’s one actor-playwrite power-duo who for over a decade or more have moved and touched millions of people through their work. By way of this, they have contributed, preserved and protected a fragile entertainment industry in Australia – Cate Blanchette and Andrew Upton. Though, Blanchette, from reading, is a Taurus and therefore is also known for her directing credits, her part in the low carbon economy and evironment transition, and leadership role for state theatre. Taurens do like to protect the environment, being ruled by venus they can bring beauty to the world, and their steadfastness and methodical nature often… Read more »

Bobby Galinsky
Bobby Galinsky

Hi Harp… and actually Harp is a good analogy for Cate, because the amount of people that queue up for live harpist recordings or buy harp CD’s are about the amount of people who queue up for movies with Cate. She is a gorgeous woman and an accomplished actress—who has no pulling power for audiences—which is an enigma (like Leo playwrights, who cares???) Never met Andrew but allegedly his work is accomplished, and they are a good looking couple and of course dozens of people love his work. And as far as a low carbon economy—- if there is ten… Read more »

harp
harp

As far as Academy Award Winning Blanchette not pulling audiences – you can’t look past the evidence that she has managed to bring in some interesting (o/seas, yes) directors and lead season programs that get bums on seats and sell out shows since becoming AD of STC.
And Bobby, I can’t believe you haven’t met Upton – you being in the industry and all, do you hide under a rock or just not get invited to events?

Bobby Galinsky
Bobby Galinsky

i only go to events of substance….

you’ve gone off topic 🙂

b

h-a-r-p
h-a-r-p

i’d much rather be an understated stringed musical instrument whose etchings can be seen on Greek vases and artworks since 430 BC and earlier, than working directly in your unhealthy industry today. and i don’t have any issues with the fact that two women – blanchette, guillard – lead in male dominated occupations and make decisions that directly impact whether or not you get your film funded this decade.

goldenfleece
goldenfleece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H54Hg2tAoWQ

Dear Triple Leo,
Thought of you last night, I watched a show on an outrageous Comedian, Margaret Cho, She was hilarious and mighty filthy, but thats not why i thought of you. She spoke of working on a tv show in her 20’s, and she fell hard in love with a guy who didnt like her at all …. she still carried this love 17 years later, she googled him, he had murdered his wife and hid her in the attic … the song above is about it …. she’s a cracker…Good luck Lovely.

Bobby Galinsky
Bobby Galinsky

Well, I’ve spent about 30 minutes wading through this miasma and it’s now very clear to me the simple solution: First of all, Leo’s generally don’t make good writers. Their ability to create and share is often so one-sided that the shielded ghosts that make great and powerful characters often come out more 2-dimensional and ‘explained’ rather than ‘displayed and evolved’. Secondly, playwright??? PLAYWRIGHT? WTF is someone doing writing plays for 20 people when he could be writing films for 20 million people. Plays were great 100 years ago—and if you’re deeply retarded or can’t see and hear in 3… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Does anyone have tips on dealing with a Uranus Pluto opposition? Starting mid-April, I transiting Uranus in my 7th opposing my first house Pluto in Libra for the year. I’ve got this non-relationship-karmic-thing going on with a Scorp whose Pluto hits my Mars and my Uranus hits his Mars – all in Libra. Plus, all the zap zone going on – its like layers and layers of Pluto-Uranus going on with pissy pass-ag Mars in Libra. How does one balance Pluto-Uranus-Mars? Know this comment isn’t really post related, but would love the hard earned wisdom of others here.

catfish moon
catfish moon

Oh…I have this coming up too. Uranus transiting my 8th and natal pluto in 2nd. Oh dear.

aqualala
aqualala

Well, since you asked, okay. If you’re having trouble finding your moral compass, blow it off and try to dig up your pride.

You can’t change anyone. Ever. People have to change themselves.

To be blunt, it sounds as if you’re really enjoying this. Wallowing in it. Sure, he COULD improve your life — because you’re certainly not working on improving it, you’re putting your energy into chasing a daydream.

Walk away.

huuuh
huuuh

well put

Feline
Feline

Triple Leo, sister, as another Lioness, believe me, there is nothing worse for a Leo than another Leo who is determined to reign over you. Doesn’t have to be a man, my Leo mother and Leo sister managed to steal or mangle whatever spotlight I managed for myself. Only cure for it is to RUN AWAY, and establish your own pride for yourself. Remember that you are Queen, and act accordingly. It took me years (and a nasty Chiron transit- don’t ask) to learn this.

Violetmoon
Violetmoon

WOW!!! So much wonderful advice and insight, this has been marvelous reading.
But what has remained with me since I read this about 36 hours ago now – is all that smouldering intensity – So yeah go for the A-list ( he could be your muse ( platonic of course!)) Greta Garbo, Marlene Dietrich………..need I say more ;- )

queenofthejungle
queenofthejungle

My ex-husband was a Leo (as am I). Although I adore other Leos as friends, and get along well with most Fire signs in general, I find a Leo/Leo pairing difficult. It’s hard to be Queen and appropriately adored when your partner is busy being King! Although it’s difficult to give up on what feels like such a tight/karmic attraction, you might be better off with someone who can be more present and supportive of you.

huuuh
huuuh

Indeed. I agree with everything you’ve said on this thread about self-actualization of women… owning up to impulses and especially “no one is born half of anything” I wonder what’s the ratio of men to women who experience this sort of dilemma :/ I can relate to the leo to a point. She reminds me of me when I was 20. Shmoozing, showing off, constantly hungover, physically fit/emotionally retarded, starry-eyed for some dork, unable to accept real love or help – Then real love entered my life and it’s taken me years to actually appreciate it. Recently (I believe it… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Totally! Agree with everything you’ve said. But with what you said here – “Right now I am in that stage of actualizing the traits I hoped to obtain through a connection to that guy that are clearly dormant within myself.” Sometimes, you don’t even have to actualize the traits. You already have them. I mean, not even latent or dormant, just there in you. I had this crush on a guy who I thought was a world traveler, adeventurer, risk-taker type. Ends up, that WAS me. I just didn’t see myself as it, but the actions/qualities were already there and… Read more »

toomuchgoingon
toomuchgoingon

Aha! Thanks for clarifying something I have been trying to figure out, though I did get to a point this week where I realised I was free to capture the castle, if I really wanted to. You have helped me with the last piece of the jigsaw, just in time for the weekend to begin. Thanks again, this thread has been pure gold.

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

true, you know. it is so often about ‘owning’ what you already have and acting accordingly, not needing external world to validate or approve. Before this maybe taking an inventory of who and what you are so you can see just what you have to offer. Sometimes it simply feels like you’re taking off a blindfold or walked to another hilltop to survey the same scene from a completely new perspective… imo.

Sadge
Sadge

Hey Triple Leo, I’m a triple or nearly everything Sadge and only recently narrowly survived Pluto transiting nearly every frickin planet and the IC of my chart which, in short terms, manifested itself as a GUY, handsome, flirtatious, hugely younger (I know, feel free to vomit now). This guy messed with my mind and I know what you mean, it aint just your mind, its like they mess with everything you are, even your power as a person, reducing you to the woman wringing her hands over the sink before its even ON! End of my sorry Plutonic tale? Yep,… Read more »

huuuh
huuuh

I have a related question. In the instance of a venus/pluto thing between two people, is it the pluto person who has the upper hand? As in, are they the one who perpetuates the thing?

Charley
Charley

Yeah Pluto is in the control seat so to speak.

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

i might agree with that I think, pluto ‘happens to’ venus..?

huuuh
huuuh

Now, would you say that someone with venus/pluto natally is more susceptible to another’s pluto sending bullets disguised as cupid’s love arrows?

huuuh
huuuh

Or more comfortable or hip to it?

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

I’m not sure, huuuh…. venus-pluto natal arrangements are def not my forte, but…but. Pluto as they say is where we are blind to things. (I may not be putting that properly). Pluto ruling our subconscious, the hidden, the trash in our psyche. Hence it controls us the most? So, if – and pleease read around a bit re this – you have pluto conjunct(?) Venus, maybe those little poison-tipped cupid’s arrows are actually an external representation of your inner pluto-venus dynamics…??? just an idea. take or leave ?

scorpalicious
scorpalicious

The hidden is more of a 12th house thing and people with planets there are not always aware of aspects of their personality or their motives (it is the Neptune house after all). Pluto is similar, in that we’re not always consciously aware of what drives us. Back in 2004 I had a Venus/Pluto relationship with someone from New York. A week before the trip I had a gut feeling it wasn’t a good idea to go and that it would probably end in tears but I just HAD TO DO IT!! To cut a long story short. I did… Read more »

scorpalicious
scorpalicious

oh FFS! Bloody Merc Retro!!! sorry about the longest post ever!! I accidentally pasted the rest of my reading. Just ignore everything after the smiley face, unless you have Uranus/Pluto in Virgo in 8th then you get a free interp from Astrobarry 🙂

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

No don’t apologise scorpalicious – and we go way back – I get it totally. I;m even envious as I have no 8th house planets, yet natal Uranus/Merc/Pluto conj in 7th house and Pluto trans opposite my Moon exact right now lends me understanding of a kind. I know Pluto (he’s purged my MC.10th house and Lilith/Ceres conjunction of recent years AND in the past few years conjuncted my SN AKA opp NN and my Venus/Mars!!! And we are a square you and I, our Sun’s at least, almost exact 90 degree, yet same year and so many earth/water planets… Read more »

scorpalicious
scorpalicious

you must be a late July Leo then? Mars moved into Cancer after 31st. What degree is your Gem venus/mars. I have Gem NN 23° Do we have a conjunction there? 🙂

Can’t tell you how much I’m looking forward to being Librafied when Mars moves into Libra to conjunct my Venus, that’s not until July though. And Jupiter return in May 🙂

For now, I’ll just be happy for Mars to go direct. Sick of all this Virgo stuff too! xx

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Soz to confuse you – Venus 29.59 Gem, NN/Vertex 1.30 Cancer and Mars 3 deg Cancer. I’m 5 August babe 🙂 May is my Jupiter return as well 🙂 looking forward to that while my Moon at 9 Cancer is being Plutonifried as we speak.

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

lol scorpy! love it. a much better insight than my clutching at straws. ( I will keep this short as the comments box is like 12mm wide) I was for some reason checking out Trent Reznor’s astro the other day – he has a mega Mars-Pluto-Uranus conjunction in Virgo too. I don’t know what house.
I don’t know maybe that;s of interest.

scorpalicious
scorpalicious

Love him!! Such a fascinating and a talented creature. Have looked him up a few times. Would love to see his full chart!! Thought he’d be a Scorp. He comes across very Plutonian. I wonder if he has Sun in 10th house? His Pluto/Uranus/Neptune all Retro! And he’s bounced back from Neptunian addictions like a phoenix rising from the ashes. His Neptune in Scorp trine Pisces in Neptune – perfect for the film composing he’s doing.

year of the fox
year of the fox

I’ve been in it both ways, twice being pluto and twice being venus. Both sucked ass either being the chaser or chasee. 🙁 I never felt like I had any control in either case. But I’ve been told that the Pluto person has control over the relationship. (Lies! i tell you!)

huuuh
huuuh

I wish there was some way to gently resolve this aspect with another person. So far for me (pluto) willpower (the inner struggle) is working to a point. It’d kill me to hurt the other person and I don’t want them out of my life because well… they’ve done nothing wrong. Except when I feel I’ve made progress the bait is placed before me. I was really proud when I didn’t give in last time.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

It’s alchemy. The only power to concern yourself with is yours.

huuuh
huuuh

whoops, my comment below was meant to be a reply to you

Gemini Moon
Gemini Moon

Pluto is in control but sometimes Venus is aloof which drives Pluto person even more intense with rage and revenge….!

Gemini Moon
Gemini Moon

Definitely Venus /Pluto combo not only in Natal but probably will appear in between the syn. of these two!!! can’t give any advice cause I am a Leo too 🙂 I guess we all want what we can’t t have! I actually think its a pride thing if he wanted you and there was no chase , you’ll will probably be bored! Be patient ,live your life and let fate/Pluto take care of it…Rest assured things with Pluto never stay the same, it always has a way to bind you, even if its straight to the underworld…!

huuuh
huuuh

I’m now reminded of my leo father… sun conjunct venus, libra moon. Women fawn over him wherever he goes. They give him money. They do his bidding. Even when he was with my mom (cancer), and now currently with his leo wife, who is working 12 hour shifts to support him. I’ve noticed a pattern with him. He’ll take take take but never give or commit to the women who chase after him to please their own egos. He only stays with (or I guess emotionally attaches to) the ones who are completely and utterly selfless and gutless. When my… Read more »

huuuh
huuuh

Oh and does he ever BRAG about every single one of the women (and men) who fall under his… spell? He’s so undeliberate, I don’t think you can call it that. It’s just like, an unwieldy charm.
It’s a curse on him. I think he’s deeply unhappy. No one will ever change him though.

etherleoscorpgem
etherleoscorpgem

as a leo sun/saturn in 10th house…I have mostly avoided leo men like the plague. too many cooks in the kitchen… i say take up a side dish or two because your current entree…is leaving much to be desired… tune into your inner animal and survey the land…roam out on the prairie 🙂 and this should take care of itself….i imagine he’ll put on so much weight with his decadent lifestyle you’re going to need a pool boy and a gardener *** wink wink… us leos love to fall in love we love crushes look to pbs and nature shows… Read more »

huuuh
huuuh

Why is it so hard to give up the thing that makes us miserable?

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

The secret – as best as I can tell – is to accept that “the thing that makes you miserable” is part of who you are. So, instead of missing it (in this example expressed as extreme want), you cultivate it (in this example, become a manizing triple Leo actress/playwright).

mrsshynebox
mrsshynebox

brilliant.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You know what? The answer is in this “My fantasies involve not just more sex with him but us becoming an actual power-duo.”

You need a man – a duo – to be powerful? Own your own impulses and don’t project them onto a savior-man. Obviously, you are more powerful or power hungry than you may realize or else you wouldn’t be vibing off this guy as someone who can complete you. No one is born half of anything.

JenKatakaAqua
JenKatakaAqua

I can’t add much that hasn’t already been said, but I will offer this advice:

Step outside the situation and look at all of this as if you were a stranger. What would you tell them to do? It helps me sometimes to look at a situation as if I were an observer, not a participant. Clarifies things a bit.

And no matter what you decide to do, just try to hang onto your Self Respect. That’s the Bottom Line, in my humble opinion.

Good luck.

ArienScorp
ArienScorp

We need to stay out of situations we’re too weak to handle, that’s common sense. But when we’re strong enough, we can embrace the ecstasy even as the flame sears our soul, bringing pain. We can choose the consequences when we know we can handle them. Life brings pain. We don’t always have to run from it. But staying in control is vital.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I’m getting off my Venus-Pluto transit. There was a Sag involved. The energy of that connection was soo intense. Nothing really to be done but ride it out. Was he worth it? Does it matter? I learned. Now, I’ve got some weird karmic connection to a Scorp that – honestly – was freaking me out a bit because it ISN’T so scary intense. Point being – affection doesn’t make you insane or compulsive. There’s something going on for you…some lesson to learn.. as long as you never let this guy decide what you’re worth, take the lesson and voyage into… Read more »

Charley
Charley

I’m a bit late on this one, have to go back and read all the posts but as an expert in womanising male Leos (no really), in my experience they only stop when they’re too old and by that I’m talking half dead. This man, whoever he is will never change.

Screams some kind of Venus-Pluto-NN synastry to me, I had this kind of ‘love’ for a person who massively didn’t deserve it and all it did was give me a mental breakdown. Not worth it.

Charley
Charley

I meant SN. My experience with this kind of madness involved all of those hotspots and every karmic astro marker in the book BUT it wasn’t LOVE. It was a protracted form of self harm on my part and psychopathic controlling weirdness on his. Tres dull in the end.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Never ever EVER ever try to control your emotions. Control your behavior. Don’t judge yourself for feelings. Enjoy the magic. And understand that you’re strong enough to participate or else you wouldn’t exist.

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

12V i love the wisdom that you’re sprinkling around here like stardust. You communicate in a way that I find I can understand effortlessly, I find myself nodding at times thinking, ‘mm-hmm, yes of COURSE, my god this woman is amazing’ etc 🙂 xx

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Ha! Thanks. I commented so much on this post because I thought “I get this…” and was trying to articulate it. The mirroring that goes on in all relationships is sometimes tricky to get. But here it’s clear triple Leo should embrace her manizing success-hungry self. There is nothing Erin with that desire. But I am tired of females projecting their power and passion onto a man. It’s too socially convenient and I’m ready for evolution to manifest. We’re beyond needing men to be empowered. Time to own and act on it.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Stupid iPhone. Meant “wrong” not “Erin”

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

it’s true, it takes a conscious decision to be the person who is the instigator, who initiates the world around her, who makes the final decisions, who bears the responsibility, pain, pride, pleasure of the results. It’s a subtle thing at times but we can see it around us if we look. for example, popular culture: I see TV shows like ‘The Closer’ or film Long Kiss Goodnight (trashy but i really love this film) as examples of a woman who has her own life in her own hands. she has failings, needs a pep talk, as would any m/f… Read more »

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

I think it’s partly about abandoning fear of judgement.

Here I Virgo Again
Here I Virgo Again

Feel for you – it’s not easy. Had “can’t help myself” feelings for Ramzilla who kept me half in a relationship half out for 7 years. I should have run for the hills in year 2. This wasn’t a past-life meeting. I’ve experienced that since and it was so amazingly different. Leo3, there’s some great thoughts and comments above. Question is, how do you start to not feel the way you’re currently feeling? Perhaps a ritual, or something symbolic would be a good way to start. Find or create your own ritual, or a spell if you’re that way inclined.… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Lioness to the 3rd power, Go For It. Forget what everyone else says, ie, foolishness, needing therapy, etc. When you define/limit yourself by others’ opinions and experiences, you imprison yourself (cue Frustration and Resentment). No one knows what is to be You, and to have Your feelings; hell, you yourself are only finding out about You as you go… Life is too short and too precious to waste energy trying to stuff strong pulls that undeniably mean something Big for you. I don’t mean, “Throw caution to the wind.” I do mean, “Embrace experience.” Obviously there is something important here… Read more »

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

this is why I love scorpios.

Leda
Leda

Mate, I’, mg going to give it to you straight. I am an aqua and until recently had some weid thin going on with a Leo (emotional vibe / intensity) nothing happened. Somehow they hook you. You become powerless, loose all your mojo. Meanwhile he s sucking up all your mojo and energy that you are investing in worshipping hm. Of course he is charming to you! He loves it!! Sucking up your utter adoration and helpless devotion! It maks him shine even more… as you descend into nutsville and loose your own sparkle. darl, I have ust been through… Read more »

The Green Witch
The Green Witch

Another late post as I am rushing between two cities here in the UK.
Just wanted to say – the best piece of advice I was ever given (but didn’t heed) was when you fall in love, ask ‘why?’ NOT ”who?’

mrsshynebox
mrsshynebox

I’ve been trying to figure out what it is that keeps Leos seduced on a daily basis since I married a Leo! They love stability just as much as they crave adventure. Find a sexy blend of the two, and you’ve got him hooked for life. 😉

Lioness Star Goddess
Lioness Star Goddess

Cub Sista you are obsessing. Breathe. You know he won’t change nor do you want him to. You love the idea of taming him and this is what you’re obsessing over. It might be love and no doubt he matches your wit and inspires your creativity but your feelings are probably turned on by the presumed unattainable. You will either a. Suduce him & realize he’ll always be more into himself than anyone else or b. he’ll trash you, as you suspect & you feel less than royal. I think you’ve set your path & you want the challenge to… Read more »

triplefish
triplefish

You don’t have to possess him, or even think about being a couple, just shag him and love him and go about your merry life. My husband asked me the other day what school of ethics i went to? I told him i didn’t go, i was self taught, so I’m not really concerned about your seeming lack of a moral compass. Many years ago, I cried all night about a leo man who i had been seeing behind his girlfriends back for over a year. I cried because i loved him so much and I’d been trying so hard… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

You had me at “Mrs Womanising Playwright” 😀

I s’pose i should scroll back up and keep reading from there.

bubble
bubble

wowwee ! this goes out to the person who just outed the leo ! you just made her look oh so shallow and manipulative too. ideal match indeed ! ! erm you werent having a go at us peeps who gave advice were you (worried). ? 🙂

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

whoa dudette, as triple leo said, people get busy. it’s a bit much to comment every 10 mins when there’s so much there to read. Leo be reflectin’ on life like a mirror ball. all is well, sister!

saturnian
saturnian

Yes that makes sense Piscean. I appreciate your point.

I don’t understand the relevance to Triple Leo’s query of her stating that we would recognise her face in certain media. Why inform us of that? Are we supposed to be impressed? Does that make the obsession issue more important?

I understand how my position would come across as critical but I’m attempting to honestly unpack the issue and Triple Leo’s need to focus on her perceived status may indeed be part of the obsession problem.

huuuh
huuuh

Maybe she’ll meet a nice, wealthy, well-connected dude that can bolster her career while she’s shmoozing at sxsw

sorry, low blow i know, but that’s the main reason people attend that now’days

saturnian
saturnian

Oh, I didn’t know that – but of course – makes sense!

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

could be, saturnian, good point. but, as i write this, I think it us knowing (sort of) where she’s at is also relevant where we can see the power dynamics and potential repercussions for TLA? Because her / his lives are in the public sphere.

saturnian
saturnian

Not at all bubble and apologies for not being clear, I think the peeps giving advice are generous and wise. Seriously.
I just wondered whether, consciously or unconsciously , the querent really wanted a resolution.

If anything I was beating MYSELF up for being hooked in to help so quickly.

Apologies bubbles and sincere thanks for your seeking clarity.

Best wishes.

bubble
bubble

hey saturnian, thank you for this – wheni read your first post it really had that cut through power that i like – i guess i just felt suupid and if u pardon the pun “played” by the triple leo’s query as i did bolt off a whole pile of advice/wisdom whatever. i went home and felt even more stupid in a way but i think your post is the voice of wisdom ! you know what i did think – the leo involved is looking for the loophole to try and get what she wants and so far i… Read more »

saturnian
saturnian

I feel really touched by your comment bubble and it’s very generous of you to have written it..

Thank you.

Love to you too.

virgotigress
virgotigress

There are SUCH gems of advice here, this post needs to be put in the ‘best posts of all time’ category. Thanks Mystic – and Triple Leo – for initiating this pile of gold.

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

I am involved with some rather sad family business, lawsuit-funeral-will, not everyone knows about mars retrograde BUT this struck me to the core. * I so relate and i echo the people saying RUN. This is said Leo to Leo. * I have never been happier since i finally killed that part of me prone to bullshit obsessions with men. You THINK most men do it? No way. Get a hot gorgeous Gen Y Guy. * Does Womanising Leo Playwright’s first name start with B? If it is who i think it is i think you cool it. I once… Read more »

Triple Leo Actress
Triple Leo Actress

Saturnien you are being hideously unfair. I am here, lurking and absorbing.

WOwing out here.

Process-Process-process!

Am also en route to Texas – dying with a hangover (I have been drunk since tropfest and also on a diet) and trying to read scripts.

My plan was to process and formulate a response as elegant as the solutions and wisdom here.

But if my inability to comment has offended anyone, apologies,

I am SO grateful.

saturnian
saturnian

Thanks Triple Leo,
My apologies.

saturnian
saturnian

Well done Triple Leo, Well played. Congratulations on evoking a whirlwind and ubiquitous cascade of wisdom from whom I view as the most generous and insightful bloggers in cyberspace. Priceless advice without a fee and no thank you, no evidence of gratitude. Actors are good at getting attention – an important skill, without it, they couldn’t be great at their work. Is this about your infatuation with a Leo playwright or your need to pull an audience on this website as well as onstage and in front of the camera? If so, then you may be perfectly suited for the… Read more »

Meowmix
Meowmix

must admit, we are definitely ‘feeding the bear’, as they say.

H
H

I think triple Leo needs to separate from this man she is infatuated with. He will always be painful, unfaithful, unavailable, consuming, because that’s the way he operates, and a Leopard does not change its spots. He is what he is. It does look like the Leo need for some dramatic passion and a larger than life partner is the underlying cause, of course. A Leo would rather be dead than have no love life, even at the cost of sanity. I have seen Leos destroyed by parasitical partners. By psychic vampires. In fact it’s not confined to Fire signs.… Read more »

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

Hello Triple Luscious Leo Femme-Fatale-To-Be Everyone’s saying some good things here and I agree with a lot of it. the things in my mind: 1. Yes, this does sound like some sort of pluto or neptune transit to something. That sort of panting, gotta have him/it/them /lost in own sense of what is important, dreamland lust thing. CHeck that out if you haven’t already? 2. Never, ever, ever, e-v-a-h think you can change a man. Ever. *Especially* if he is as you say some narcissistic industry type or has a lot invested (not just $ – could be ego, defines… Read more »

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

WHOA longest post ever *whoops!!*

Savannah
Savannah

No 4. Is brilliant! All of it is but that is succinct!

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

A smart cancerian woman told me that when she was learning from just that scenario…

Fi
Fi

seconded: uber-kudos for no.4.

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

I concur 🙂

catfish moon
catfish moon

me too!!!

I am getting #4 tattooed on me.

toomuchgoingon
toomuchgoingon

Just wrote in caps and pinned this to my wall – wish I had read this two years ago. Inspriring.

samantha
samantha

yeah no. 4 resonated with me too. Thinking of current situation and will apply it. Thanks.

Horse
Horse

Honey
Are you kidding me ?!
Number 4 is the purest of gold.
I Needed That One
Thank you

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

I am very happy that #4 resonated with a lot of people…. it’s like a giant piece of wisdom that you read and say, oooooohh my GOD this changes everything…I felt the same way. I will pass on to my divinely intelligent, beautiful Cancer gal that she did The Right Thing in sharing that li’l gem. xx

Saggibee
Saggibee

Yes, I must put my hand up and also say I had a bit of a light-bulb moment after reading #4. 😉

Scorpalicious
Scorpalicious

No. 7 😆 you crack me up PUNM!

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

hee hee 😉

Missy Leo
Missy Leo

I do agree with some of the comments here. I doubt if my Leo obssession actually “plays” despite of what he says. I think he just misses the attention from other women because he has been in a relationship for more than two years. He loves his girlfriend. I can feel that. A lot of Leo men are just full of talks and no actions. Leos mate for life! Sometimes I also doubt my feeling for him. Do I really love him or do I just want to show him off to my friends? My Leo crush is also very… Read more »

bubble
bubble

it is amazing to read all of this and know that i have learnt something in the billion years i have spent in romance hell and that i can share it with all the other wise people here – what i want to say is this is hard earned wsidom – valuable and to everyone who has been thro this and come out the other end here is a hug from me xxxx also dear triple leo – u will not beat the odds even if u gave him the best shag of all time – i would love to… Read more »

Miss Aquarius
Miss Aquarius

I feel for you, but want to say that heartache is over rated and obsession is short-lived; the present passes and the future always arrives. A strong dose of self respect could get you through this… What does he have to offer you that could compare to some else in the future who will give you what you really want?

Aqua sun, Pisces Venus, Cap moon

Missy Leo
Missy Leo

OMG! Did I write this letter when I sleepwalked last night? lol I’m in a similar situation – a leo woman hopelessly in love with a leo man. We separated (geographically rather than romantically) four years ago, and I stopped communicating with him when I found out that he had a girlfriend (removed him from FB, deleted his number etc). I bumped into him last year, when I changed yoga school. That’s how I found out he’s back in town. I didn’t see him that often until recently. We flirt. I don’t think he is as cute as before but… Read more »

Meowmix
Meowmix

i recommend getting a pint if ben and jerry’s, listening to the NPR podcast where starlee kine interviews phil collins on heartbreak, and then watching bridget jones’s diary. and maybe also bridesmaids.

Meowmix
Meowmix

(this american life podcast, NPR show)

Pisces with Sagg Rising
Pisces with Sagg Rising

You haven’t really given enough info about the nature of the relationship so far so it is hard to say but I will make the following observations: a) it doesn’t sound like “in love”. It sounds like obsession or wanting what you can’t have or “in limerance”. Google it. b) if there is one thing I have learnt about blokes it is this: what they say is irrelevant – it is their actions that speak volumes. Has he DONE anything that makes you think he may return your feelings? Sex does not count. More along the lines of volunteered to… Read more »

Libra_hearts_Virgo
Libra_hearts_Virgo

Dear Leo, this is not good. Sound’s like you have already slept with him? Yes. The fact is thou, your still not on his radar or even in his “big picture”. Brutal but true “He’s just not that into you”. Don’t go to meditation class, your gonna come off all stalkery like, and that’s never a good look. You will never, ever change (tame) him. Not. Ever. Seriously you say or have heard he has a huge ego, a temper and loves to fuq around, what exactly has attracted you to that? Ditch this madness and focus that awesome energy… Read more »

lionfish
lionfish

To add my tuppence worth… as Leo rising I have been there, obsessed with a womanising Scorp, more than ten years ago now. What l learned: I wish I hadn’t wasted so much of my life defining myself by whether or not he paid any attention to me; what he awakened in me was what I wanted for myself but was too scared to go for it, career-wise; a large part of it was my leonine competitive nature saying, ‘I want to WIN. Pay attention!’ When my wonderful friends told me to forget him, I started every sentence with ‘Oh… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

“I hadn’t wasted so much of my life defining myself by whether or not he paid any attention to me; what he awakened in me was what I wanted for myself but was too scared to go for it”

AMEN! We all love, whether the person is “worthy” or not. But never let someone else become the measure of how worthy you are to yourself. Logically, it doesn’t make sense. Emotionally, we all fall into that bs sometimes.

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

Mmmm…. writing from phone so probs not as eloquent as i would like, but i’ll keep it simple…. if YOU are obsessing, AND YOU write your names out a thousand times, and YOU are the one thinking of him, I would suggest YOU may need to spend some quality love time with YOU…. are you as in love with yourself, your life, what can you share or give? Rather than what you want think of what love you have to give and will you be happy, secure and safe to share it with a womaniser. How will you feel after… Read more »

Margi Macdonald
Margi Macdonald

Dear Triple Leo Actress
Run.
Now.
Then fInd a healer who can help you identify and then break all the bonds and ties you have with him, and surround you with light.
Blessings to you.
xox

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

I can’t add any thing novel but Leo Goddess, that you wrote to Mystic tells me you know you deserve better than certified a$$holes and flagrant womanizers.

Have you checked Saturn transit? The last time I had had experienced something similar, Saturn was smacking my DSC. *she looks up and murmurs* Good lecture, I got it Saturn, TY!

Fi
Fi

Haven’t had time to read all the other responses so this has probably already been said, but as one who has been there (ie fallen for impossible asshole against all advice): Point 1. maniacal ego, inifdelity, temper (and no doubt buckets of charm) = narcissist. But the partner is NEVER the muse. Hence, you are setting yourself up for the eternal triangle, whether you tame him for 5 minutes or not. Which brings me to point 2 Point 2. when we’re talking major obsession against all advice, and if Pluto is not involved, we’re talking opposite sex parent. What was… Read more »

Piscean Under New Management
Piscean Under New Management

interesting, Fi, i would agree with what you said – partner / muse, psych-parent patterning, etc. I have done quite a bit of work on self re parents, formative beliefs, early childhood stuff, interesting (Hey, what else is a saturn-pluto-IC in Libra transit for?!)

catfish moon
catfish moon

Yes, those traits do equal narcissism. The partner is never the muse….
so true. I sure wasn’t.

harp
harp

i wonder would you say this happens with boys and their mother? is there a connection between mr leo playwrite and the way his mother treated him – he seems to need significant female adoration from leo actress descrip? and what about the childhood wounds Mr Leo Playwrite may be creating in his own backyard? how can actress break her cycle, how can playwrite break his and not create one for offspring? curious harp i am

bubble
bubble

you know what – i am going to sayy this again – THIS GUY/SITUATION IS A LESSON> IF U PASS THIS LESSON< YOU WILL MAKE THE "A" LIST.
i hope u are reading all of this triple leo and i also hope u arent siting there thinking we dont understand because from most of the comments above i'd say we do.

Meowmix
Meowmix

be with someone who doesn’t want to let you go. that is a good quote i once heard.

even if you got with him, he is untrustworthy, and that is no good. there is all this emotional upheaval about wanting to get with him, and it wouldn’t dissipate if you got together.

hugs though – we’ve all been there!!!!! xoxo

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