Earth Signs Are Easy

Bull abstract rainbow out of one eyeLisa Congdon

So my friend the Leo Thesp airiliy confided an astro-cliche the other day.

He feels that the Earth Signs (Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn) are the most morally grounded people of the Zodiac. Grounded is appropriate for an Earth Sign but Leo Thesp says Earth Signs also operate within a firm structure of values.

BUT that they are tremendously easy to seduce as they require nothing but food to turn them on and “elasticate their boundaries.”  

Whereas Leo Thesp needs someone hot, a cool scene, designer champagne or space dust, epic anecdotes/name dropping and high-level flattery.  But even so, it’s all off-on-the-night if Leo Thesp doesn’t feel his hair is adequate.

It’s an outrageous astro-cliche, obviously. Thoughts?

 

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Rozzletov
Rozzletov

I am currently in a relationship with a cap man and honestly it’s still new and it went quickly. A little to quick for my scorpio mind to like. I don’t understand personally why i keep falling for earth signs. All the virgos i’ve dated (and one unfortunate marriage) chased me saying they had to have me then didn’t like me when they finally got me. I’ve not dated many toros but have more toro friends. And the caps oh so bad for me love my intensity hate my intensity, and get so jealous if i don’t give them all… Read more »

Liz
Liz

“Morally grounded” … hahahahahahaha

A term which likely wins the international prize for most frequently customized definition according to the needs of individuals’ ego.

Taurus81
Taurus81

Taurus with Leo Rising – I’m not remotely easy. I will let someone wine and dine me repeatedly but if I’m not really into them it doesn’t go further than that, and then I have to call it off because I feel guilty. My Leo rising is very particular and likes extravagance, flattery, and a bit of name-dropping, yes, but my Taurus sun (and venus and a few others) usually makes me come to my senses (yes) again.

Sad Double Scorp
Sad Double Scorp

Hihi, my fave Toro friend has Virgo rising, but maybe the name-dropping is due to Toro too and not just your Leo rising, because it accounts for certain values? My Toro friend is certainly VERY susceptible to big names.

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

I take no objection with being called easy, but seduced by food…! A Capricorn?!
No no no, if I want you I want you. YOU. Your job’s already done. Skip dinner and just make me an offer…

andromeda
andromeda

Hee hee. No resume necessary, just brass tacks…

samantha
samantha

lol. this comment makes me very suspcious that the man i’m dating must be cap rising. ta

fallen angel
fallen angel

Does this make me a secret Capricorn then? giggle. Actually I think that’s true. But my experiences with Cap men have been, I-Want-You-I-Want-You then I-Get-You-Oops-Let’s-Think-About-This. Shrug, sigh.

Sad Double Scorp
Sad Double Scorp

Giggle! Of course it’s not funny, but I can just imagine! Btw, I don’t know a single Cap in my close circle of friends.

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

Yep, agree Lex! That’s been my experience in reverse. The work is done.. fringe benefits welcome but totally optional.

Gina Stevens
Gina Stevens

I’m a Capricorn Leo Rising… so, hahahaha naturally bi polar LOL

Typical Taurus
Typical Taurus

I once had a date turn up at my house in motorcycle leathers, bearing take-away Thai food, a bottle of wine, and a book he’d bought for me based on a conversation we’d had on a previous date. Be still my beating heart!!! Although the relationship later ended quite hideously, that is still one of the best dates I’ve ever had. Leather, food, wine, and a book – definitely the perfect combo for seducing this Taurus. P.S. He did actually ride a motorbike – it wasn’t a weird fetish thing 🙂 P.P.S. My Aqua sister once had a man arrive… Read more »

beauty in a chum bucket
beauty in a chum bucket

food, nah. food AND being really really stoned….. can make anything happen. i’m a virgo, that is pretty much all me and first love taurus used to do….hazy wandering minds meeting through sensuous carresses smoldering stares and tasty touches …..exquisite! i dont think by any means we are Easy tho… too many those damn standards although urges ARE strong on a purely animal level. and i think because we are prone to see Reality as such… we are aware of our urges as profoundly human and not afraid to indulge because it is Real. regardless of any superficial acts which… Read more »

queenofthejungle
queenofthejungle

Well, 2nd house (ruled by Taurus) is often erroneously associated with “money” — but actually has to do more broadly with anything of value or “values” in the sense of morals. So I can see Taurus as having an enhanced state of moral awareness on some level.

As a Sun Leo, however, I resent the implication that we’re all about the hair! Maybe my Leo energy is overrun by the Sag and Virgo elements in my chart, but I’m really not that superficial!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Virgos are grounded, but in what isn’t always clear (says the double Virgo). I don’t know so much about Caps or Taurus…Taurus has a rooted materialism, Cap has rooted power-drive? Virgos…its hard to articulate. They have loyalty to process/efficiency more so than individual people. Like, they want to serve people with their process/efficiency. Freaking pain in the ass for my Leo moon to deal wtih.

ts
ts

if a person you find attractive wants to have sex and cook for you why would you NOT go for it. that may be more the uni student talking than any birth chart business though.

i’m taurus, scorpio rising and capricorn moon. and i am not going to contact you afterwards.

purpleta
purpleta

who would you contact afterwards then? PLEASE. I am entering into this relationship with a man with your same placements…

ts
ts

i’m not a dude so it may be a bit different. someone who wasn’t boring – it more depends on where he is in his life and what he’s looking for. i just finished a long, awful relationship so i kinda just want to hang out, he might not. be sharp, be interesting, pose fun things to do when you’re together. i don’t know this guy so i can’t say much that isn’t reflective of myself.

missfine
missfine

Oh boy…i’m kind of an authority on earth signs…especially Taurus. 90% of the guys I’ve hooked up with, half dated, or really dated where Taurus. Make that 95%. I chalk that up to having Taurus on the DC with NN in there. My only major relationship was Taurus, Virgo Rising Mars and Venus Taurus and something in CAp. Think it was Jupiter. Anyway. That’s pretty damn earthy. And even though we dated on and off for 7 years (they never let go), I always felt like initially I had CONVINCED him to love me, or something. Like he never really… Read more »

missfine
missfine

There was supposed to be a quote in those <'s :

from fallen angel:

"My theory is that they are so sensate that when Toros are seduced by say someone they really wouldn’t even seriously consider long term, there arises a natural sympathy for this person’s longing for them. Provided said seducer has enough attraction in the eyes of the Toro, it could be a why not sort of situation."

year of the fox
year of the fox

I have Venus in Virgo but i don’t think I’m a good test subject. I have SUn in Libra and Gem on the DC so of course I’m attracted to them,..but i don’t think it has to do with Venus in Virgo. specifically.

Sad Double Scorp
Sad Double Scorp

Oh no, all my doubts regarding earth signs came up again. My Virgo boyfriend I am not sure what he’s up to… I think he’s very much guided by morality, but then again secretly he tries to do whatever he wants and just moves the boundaries about. I guess his idea about being grown-up consists in me being able to forgive him should he do something I don’t agree with (as there might be cheating, for instance). Of course he’s wrong, a Double Scorp like me is probably not capable of forgiving AND forgetting. My Toro friend, on the other… Read more »

Owl
Owl

My Virgo boyfriend does the same. All on the up and up on the surface, does what he thinks I want, but does what he really wants secretly.

Since I found this out, it kind of took the wind out of our relationship since I feel that you are not communicating authentically.

Why doesn’t he just be who he is, and I can take it or leave it. He is too used to appeasing Mum.

Sad Double Scorp
Sad Double Scorp

My thoughts exactly! That’s why I’m a Sad Double Scorp these days and not just the usual Double Scorp…

Owl
Owl

I haven’t found a solution yet. Can’t decide with my mercury at bloody 29 libra.

But my heart tells me that it will never truly satisfy me. I’m a sun-pluto in the 8th, so I need depth and expression of true self.

It’s such a pity because he is a sweetheart. But just not the right sweetheart for me.

Sad Double Scorp
Sad Double Scorp

Dear Owl, sounds complicated to me! But same here… My Virgo bf is widely beloved, and everyone thinks he’s very loyal. He might even be! He just doesn’t want to rule out not being it, I think. Maybe it’s early signs of a midlife crisis, he just turned 40 and constantly talks about buying a flashy sportscar… 😉 Rational me thinks it ridiculous and I hate the irrational talk of Porsches when he hates his money-making job and would rather start anew with his own business … I somehow dread the future I was once looking forward to.

catfish moon
catfish moon

OH DEar….are ya’ll dating my ex multi virgo( I know you aren’t, but geez, he was just like that).

Taurus81
Taurus81

Yes the nonchalance doing what he wants thing, I love that in a guy, even while it drives me nuts. Sigh. I think it’s typical we’re drawn to what we repress in ourselves kind of stuff/bad boy syndrome, though. At least for me it is.

Sad Double Scorp
Sad Double Scorp

Ah, yes. I’m a mixture between my Virgo and Toro friends. Whereas the Virgo IS morally grounded (admittedly a bit unstable) and the Toro does not even bother to PRETEND he is, I pretend I’m morally fine with the Virgo and sometimes in reality am not. Well. Double personality Scorp. 😀

fallen angel
fallen angel

Honey Sad Double Scorp, sweetie you sad because it’s a double standard. And you can appreciate the Toro for just being upfront for who/what he is, no excuses, no pretense.

Scorps need depth. Big time. And loyalty is not an option. So I’m sure you’ll find what’s best for you, just wanted to say your instincts are not wrong on this one. IMO. best and hugs.

Sad Double Scorp
Sad Double Scorp

Thank you all for your kindly formulated opinions! I think that yes, maybe the Toro being upfront about it impresses me and makes it more bearable. The Virgo tries it, too. Says that out of fear I might leave him (and some subtle threats from my side) he’s not met with people (women) in the past three years but now realised he’s been repressing his needs for other social contacts. It’s probably just fair to grant this to him, but I feel as if the previous years had been a bit of a lie and I somehow find it very… Read more »

Sad Double Scorp
Sad Double Scorp

PS: Wish I had a friend like you in real life, with such wisdom and a sense of humour! We’d make Mystic join, too. 😉

fallen angel
fallen angel

Sad honey, if what we share here feeds you in a real way, then the friendships though not in conventional real time, are real enough no? I think it’s difficult when trust issues abound, and I can see where you don’t want to feel as if you’ve become le Virgo’s prison guard – where is the joy in that (or the nice wardrobe for that matter)? But without tipping you to either side, I think you can find the silent space to listen to what you’re already intuiting. A lot of peeps here now my Plutonic history which in a… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

“I think it’s hard when we love someone so much that we enhance the mythology of who they are, just by the virtue of the amount of attention and heart space they get. What of your mythology?”

Fucking genius, fallen angel.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Thanks, 12th house…hard earned genius though 🙂

Sad Double Scorp
Sad Double Scorp

I’m so lucky to get such wonderful advice… Many, many thanks. You’re absolutely striking a cord: I’m sad to acknowledge certain changes but I probably must. And I feel rejected because I’ve concentrated much of my energy and free time on V-man and now he wants to be ‘free’ or ‘freer’. It’ll take some time until I really find out how to engage with the rest of the world which might hold interesting things and people for me. After I’ve finished my big project in April (or whenever I can take off for a short while). But still sad because… Read more »

Sad Double Scorp
Sad Double Scorp

PS: I’ve copied your answer and will put it somewhere where I can have a sneak peak whenever I feel low because of V-man and my troubles with his new ego. 🙂

fallen angel
fallen angel

Hmm. In my experience, Toros are THE sign I’ve known for having a lower threshold on indulgence. I don’t actually think morality comes into the equation as such, which isn’t to say they aren’t..but only that morality wouldn’t be the template from which those decisions are made. My theory is that they are so sensate that when Toros are seduced by say someone they really wouldn’t even seriously consider long term, there arises a natural sympathy for this person’s longing for them. Provided said seducer has enough attraction in the eyes of the Toro, it could be a why not… Read more »

pearlchampagne
pearlchampagne

This observation is scarily accurate. Especially with my Leo rising (vain appreciation of attraction and compliments)- with venus & sun conj. in Taurus – I have never stood a chance.. I finally curbed the ‘why not’ situations but with some struggle. In other affairs I’d say morality generally outweighs sensuality. Most of the time.

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

Hmmm.. yes, interesting and well put.

andromeda
andromeda

Dunno, the whole sun sign thing is interesting, but I still reckon looking at the aspects would be more telling? Can’t honestly make a judgement here anyway!

Charles
Charles

It’s not that easy to seduce a Taurus, a good meal isn’t enough. You’re not going to get under his skin, his hide is too tough. And besides, when did anyone ever get a Taurus to do something he didn’t want to do? Maybe if you make him think it was his idea in the first place.

Get Taurus to cook for you and he will seduce you.

Golden harp
Golden harp

you are soooo right charles! i think that can be said for taurus moon too and possibly mars.

Scorpalicious
Scorpalicious

what about Venus in Taurus? An Aries with venus in Taurus work colleague overhead me saying that I hate cooking and yelled “awww, I’ll cook for you!!”
You reckon he was trying it on? 😉

Golden harp
Golden harp

for sure, he wouldn’t have said it otherwise!
i remember you’ve libra venus and venus ruled MC – you’d beam lightness wherever you go. taureans and librans love lightness, it’s part of the seduction.

…I’m an earthy libran who is easy to please, but difficult to catch, difficult to walk over (cause i’m usually first out the door)!

Scorpalicious
Scorpalicious

shame he was married!! I was quite touched that someone wanted to cook for me.
Taureans are lovely but I love all the earth signs.

“an earthy libran who is easy to please, but difficult to catch” Hehe.. I like it! Sounds like something Oscar Wilde would say.

I like your new name!
Let ‘The Golden Age’ begin…. (that’s a Beck song btw)… beautiful and dreamy

Golden harp
Golden harp

thanks heaps scorp! much appreciated!!!!

Sad Double Scorp
Sad Double Scorp

Yay! So true. I always try to make Toro think he’s in charge. That way it’s much easier. What also works, if it’s not a hundred percent against their principles, is asking them for something more or less explicit well beforehand. Then never mention it again. They’ll think about it and ask back whether they can do it for you, if they’re caring. And I do believe Toros are very generous friends in immaterial ways and when it comes to feeding you. Of, and the other thing, too. 😉
Veeery generous with it. Everyone shall profit.

Taurean Alchemist
Taurean Alchemist

Yah, I was going to get on here and spout some opinions but then I remembered my Saturn transit and just shut the fuq up.

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

Wise, very wise….

on another note, I love love love the rainbow bison..

Melanie
Melanie

Interesting. I’m also a Leo and I find that fellow fire signs are far and away the easiest to get into bed. Of the four elements, my fewest encounters have been with Earth signs (am yet to score with a Virgo at all), and I’ve found Taurus to be easy conquests but undynamic. I am strongly intrigued by Capricorns, though, because they seem most impervious to my flirty blandishments… in my experience they spurn casual encounters and will only go there if they are really certain that there’s some longevity.

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

Why is it that Leo seems to gravitate towards Capricorn? I’m a Leo too, very intrigued by the mergoat, and not to mention that I see soooo many Leo celebrities with Capricorn celebrities.

Yet somehow I’m seeing a Scorp instead.

Melanie
Melanie

My Leo sis has a long-term Cap boyfriend… they do complement each other really well, and definitely vibe ‘long haul’.

Dalai_Mama
Dalai_Mama

I am a Leo magnet : )))!!! I always seem to attract them out of the blue. I’m a Cap with Venus and Jupiter in my 5th house. In Aquarius. I thought that was why. I think we intrigue you guys because nothing really fazes us.

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

Saggi with recent ex being a Cap. You should try!! They are full of surprises and nothing about them in that way will be on the surface but other than that we had many bumps.. even with my Cap moon and Toro Asc!

Hathor's Horns
Hathor's Horns

Amen sister! I can only speak for myself as a Toro, but yes I think I’d be pretty easy to win over if you’re gonna wine, dine and make me feel fine. I’m a sensualist to a fault. I’ll believe anything you want as long as you make me breakfast in bed after a morning love in…

Lucy
Lucy

Leos also need their souls to get hammered on & the feeling that they will never be the same afterwards.

Martinis are good too. (The kind that make you want to take off your shoes.)

SourPatch
SourPatch

Sounds like that Leo should stick to what he knows best…..his hair products.

—-Virgo Moon/8th

xunu
xunu

gold =))

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

It takes a lot more than a good feed to get into my pants…

toroqueen
toroqueen

agreed. sun/taurus, moon/sag, rising/scorp

catfish moon
catfish moon

food is not what does it for me at all….
However, I am on such a strict restricted on what I can eat diet for my health. If someone is willing to understand, cook that way, Eat that way with me….OH wow…huge huge brownie point. But that isn’t about the food, that is about the sacrifice. Which I NEVER ask anyone to make.

Saturnalien
Saturnalien

Yeah, I can relate to that.

Messy Leo
Messy Leo

I’ve heard some stories about my now passed Toro Gramma (she got around a bit, esp with compulsive Venus in Aries). I have Moon in Taurus, and I’ve never been in a relationship (and/or nonrelastionship/one-night-stand) that didn’t start out with sex, interestingly enough with other Earth signs. I think it’s just the sensuality thing, and yeah, good food is SUCH a turn on, why should the fun stop there?

Messy Leo
Messy Leo

Maybe I should say *impulsive Venus in Aries.

Siannon
Siannon

As a Taurean woman with Venus in Aries, I like the term “impulsive” better! But I hope I have values that are considered and not pure stubborness! I held out firmly against the last man who plied me with lychee cocktails because he was in a relationship….and the damn scorpio I’m now seeing bought me Hungry Jacks on our last date…but I love him because his values are passionate even if his taste his horrendous!

Shannon
Shannon

As a Toro that is being driven absolutely mad by a Cap, all I can say is I WISH.

Ramamzie
Ramamzie

What does the bison represent? There were almost hunted to extinction here in North America

Messy Leo
Messy Leo

Maybe like the essence or cloud or whatever is being grounded by and transmitted through the earthy creature.

catfish moon
catfish moon

sigh…..venus in virgo trine mars in taurus, virgo rising. Psych and ceres conjunct in Taurus conjunct my midheaven.
I am so easy to seduce if I am attracted to you. ridiculously easy. But I am so rarely attracted to people that way.

Scorpalicious
Scorpalicious

Hehe… me too! If you’re good looking – I’m easy!
Venus in Libra, Mars In Virgo 🙂

catfish moon
catfish moon

HA HA…..
I am a selective slut!
I absolutely believe I was a madame and a western saloon prostitute in a past life.

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

I agree. I rarely put out, But when I do it an ‘I like you, you like me.. this teasng and flirt stuff is nice, but we could just spend 3 days in bed instead’.
One does like a good flirt. But if there is an actual candidate I want less talk and more action.

Scorpalicious
Scorpalicious

Hahaha. Throw my Cap Asc and Saggo love of adventure into the mix and you get “Office Slut” 😆 That was back in my Pluto in Sagg wild party days though. Wouldn’t do it now. Pluto in Cap – back to being respectable 🙂

catfish moon
catfish moon

🙂 ha! reformed office slut.

Taurus81
Taurus81

yes, I’m rarely attracted to anyone but when I am it’s so powerful and I suppose in that sense I’ve already given in once I’ve found out the attraction is mutual. Hm…

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯

I don’t know… 😯

If someone makes me laugh – I mean really laugh – wicked sense of humour is a MUST, dj’s as well as I do at a party and knows how to have fun… 😯

I’ll happily fall naked into their bed… 😀

Zentriplet
Zentriplet

Baristagem, I need you to know that you have single-handedly changed my opinion of emoticons or whatever they’re called these days. I totally dig the way you use them. That caught-in-the-headlights expression is classic.
Your posts always make me smil.

FWIW, as a fellow twin, I’m with you on the ‘make me laugh’, but modest intelligence melts me most. As one guy (who tried and failed) put it …”Oh, so it’s think my pants off is it?”…

Zentriplet
Zentriplet

Oops… ‘smile’…

Seabird
Seabird

I’m there too, yet another Gem turned right on by modest intelligence as you so richly put it!! One of the beds I tumbled into belonged to a very ugly football player (who turned out to be a vey good player there at well) what got me in? In the middle of a conversation about some deep and meaningful global thingie, when I was in full flow, he smiled and said: “I’m sorry I’m not a very good conversationalist in these things because all I’ve done since I was 15 is play football.” Honey! I shut my trap and jumped… Read more »

Seabird
Seabird

Libran BTW. fantastically ugly. But very droll…

rosebud
rosebud

loooool nah think my pants off is to uranian- i used to HATE when my friend would read linda goodman aloud and stress the part about how aquarians ‘fall in love with their minds’ lots of NO NO NOT TRUE BLEKH I WANNA HOTTIE would ensue while deep down i’d be like ‘…yes, yes please’

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯

Thanks Zen – my cat’s name btw… 😀

I so agree with you on the intelligence part – I’m in long-term relationship with a Dr. – we have been together for nearly 6 years! 😯

ZenTriplet
ZenTriplet

Gorgeous!

I describe my Aqua beloved’s mind as the kind you can ‘swim about in’ for ever… No thought/concept is too weird, or too tough, or in anyway unthinkable… So SEXY! 🙂

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯

Did I mention that the Dr is an Aqua also!! 😯 😯

I absolutely agree!! 😀

ZenTriplet
ZenTriplet

Getting carried away here, but must say that I wish I’d been hip to the bliss of a Gem-Aqua pairing decades ago instead of endless Toro turgidity… (Note: not meant as a generalisation).
We not only enjoy our own trippy brilliance but a shared understanding of the magic relationship ingredient… space!!!

GeorgeSand
GeorgeSand

I think they stick to their principles and then won’t budge no matter what. I wouldn’t say they’re more “moral” than other signs — just more stubborn, fixed, opinionated — whatever you want to call it.

mitra
mitra

I agree re Virgos. Caps and Toros, I think the question of morality is a big part of how earth signs present to the world, whereas leo’s might present to be more about hair.

I’ve known several Toros especially, male and female, who do whatever they want. I can think of other friends – Saggos, Gems, Aquas and Librans with a moral bent quickly come to mind.

I think your Leo friend might just be making a superficial and deliberately provocative analysis. Was he tossing his hair at the time?

TEDtheKitty
TEDtheKitty

In light of all the earthies I’ve been surrounded by and crossed paths with the past two years (note: all male, Taurus or Capricorn)……this post was priceless, lol. Sounds exactly like what my Leo ex-boyfriend would say about them, all of them being part of HIS inner circle. Their group dynamics have been a constant source of amusement and fascination for me since all of them, Leo included, came barging into my sphere of existence. Poor Leo, he just doesn’t get them, and is oblivious to his own high-maintenance mindset. (which is why he is an EX boyfriend, exhausting!) Grounded?… Read more »

david5379
david5379

to me virgo, sag, and aquarius are the most “moral”, and technically scorpio is even more concerned with values even though they arent anyone elses. Taurus seams to be the kind to appear moral just for how stubborn they are, but really they didnt arrive to these conclusions for being the most moral but just never gave up there original conventional sense, and Capricorn is just concerned with appearances and standing in society. Virgo on the other hand is supposed to be modest, and concerned with betterment, usually enacting a strict set of correct behavior just for the sake of… Read more »

spicybanana
spicybanana

I’m Aqua – Quite general indeed.

david5379
david5379

to be fair the most “amoral” signs, pisces and gemini , are my sun and moon, and the most frequent descriptor people say of me is how “good” a person I am, I would say it has more to do with jupiter and saturn and in a different sense uranus as well to tell how “moral” someone is. I just meant it has seamed to me thus far that aquarians have there little set of ethics and view on how they should operate and adhere to this even if it is inconvenient to themselves and others, even when self interest… Read more »

Sassafras
Sassafras

Sag most moral….?? Hmmmm, no offence Sag, i love you dearly, my Dad, Uncle (who i connect with both) and oldest friend are Sag’s… And you are wonderful, fun, funny, often inspiring, supportive and crazy… But moral?…. Not so sure!

david5379
david5379

kinda why i used quotation marks, sag represents the search for morals at the very least, if in practice these “morals” seam to just justify what is convenient than really they arent any more moral than anyone else, if anything its worse because this normalacy is framed as morals wich can be irritating, at the very least they probably think they are moral

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Good point. Maybe Sag represent the search for morals because they aren’t innate to them.I certainly don’t know all Sags and there’s a lot to every chart, but I have found their ego drives outweigh their morals…and quite comfortably with them.

david5379
david5379

mmm, innate might be a tricky word choice, wether morality is “innate” probably has more to do with the planets in their chart, I would say rather they have the innate drive to search for such things and frame life in such a way, but to say they do so out of a lack of morals is a bit much maybe, the innateness of their morals is probably no more innate than anyone else, its more about momentum id think

david5379
david5379

basically, we wouldnt say geminis need to define, figure out, and rationalize is out of an innate lack of intelligence or a libras search for beauty is do to an innate lack of it in themselves, the problem is when someone merely gets by in the appearance they are fulfilling their sign when the truer fulfillment goes untraversed, its easier to spot sag doing this because they are a sing of excess, and if confronted with them being preachy you would more easily notice inconsistencies

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Better put. Trying to articulate it is tricky…but there is a moral paradox of sorts with Sags that I don’t quite get being they are the sign of the philosopher or whatever.

david5379
david5379

i think it has to do with gemini being the opposite, so gemini will tell a story differently each time out of boredom to the point that after a few retelling it might not resemble what actually happened any more, on the other hand they will catch things that no one else will and make observations that no one else could detect just by the nature of how they try to pick things apart and interpret, sag on the other hand might exaggerate the “truth” so it too doesnt even resemble what happened, but this exaggeration will theoretically serve a… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

So Libras have a quest for beauty? Never saw it that way before. It is interesting to think of signs strengths as their weaknesses.

david5379
david5379

well beauty is an ideal, and I would say it is a sort of search for this ideal, but it usually has to do with a partner, thats why libra has to do with the other, they try to get at beauty through other people, the prize and the means to getting at the prize are the same thing

david5379
david5379

and also to be beautiful, in appearance or practice, involves other people noticing

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

Um, Saggi checking hin here. I am actually and maintain integrity even when nobody is watching coz it is about my standards not about what peeps think 🙂

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

Oh yes and I did read the rest, and you’re quite right David with a lot of that stuff and I’m not a ethics major by any shot but we do not seek to hurt or inconvenience anyone when in quest mode. And yes, also in saying more goes on in a chart. I also consider in the context of this that Saggi can be an excellent cause fighter and if truth be known and you wanted them on your side at that point you may or may not have concern for intergrity but rather the win. All things must… Read more »

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

‘IN’

david5379
david5379

oh im sorry, I didnt mean to imply inconsistency, if a sag had a set of morals that weren’t that moral, they would probably still adhere to them even if it was inconvenient, I didnt mean to say it has to do what other people think as far as convenience goes, i meant less situation convenience and more overall convenience, like if your code involved not tipping waitresses, and you had this whole justification for it like in reservoir dogs, the convenience would be in the fact you have to spend less money, but you would probably not tip even… Read more »

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

No apology necessary David but thanks for being a gentleman!

I knew where you were coming from but also wanted to extend an alternate view complete with Saggi satire.

I wasn’t the least bit offended and even agree with elements.

As with all your posts your latest reply is thoughtful and well put. 🙂

Melanie
Melanie

I love Saggittarians, but overburdened with sexual morality they are NOT.

andromeda
andromeda

Copy that, lol.

sag-leo
sag-leo

I suspect that “moral” in this case implied righteousness of opinion more than any kind of (shudder) sexual morality.

A colleague said recently, “I have been in plenty of places with you where no on at all wanted to hear your opinion and you gave it anyway.”

Guilty.

Libra_hearts_Virgo
Libra_hearts_Virgo

Lol I ditto that. Had Sag ex and have a Sag dad. Both not short on offering ‘their’ morally justified opinion, even when the receiver doesn’t want to hear it. Some of the stuff that would come out of my Ex’s mouth would silence crowds of ppl, I used to think he said such and such for the shock value, but no just his special brand of morally justified opinion. I will say tho, that both of them are great adventurers and always up for fun.

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

And alternately sometimes I bet you were the brabe one that stood alone and said what everyone else was thinking but afraid to say 🙂

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

‘BRAVE”

Grrr.. what is happening with my typing tonite. It’s like Merc is whipping my mind too fast for the keystrokes!

Lauren
Lauren

I agree with the bit about Scorpio. That we stick to our own brand of morality, even if it may seem immoral to everyone else. We are all about living by our own set of truths, which usually wrongs counter to that of the majority. 😉

Rozzletov
Rozzletov

as a scorpio thank you i’ve never heard it put quite that way before. I had to laugh a little but it’s so true.

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