Venus In Scorpio Tells All!

fabulous legs on window sill with big spiderDavid Sims

Venus is in Scorpio right NOW – of course – so until early November we are ALL Venus in Scorp. 

But let’s hear from those of you with the pleasure of being BORN Venus in Scorpio. Or Venus in the 8th House. Or Venus conjunct Pluto. 

Let’s go here. 

If any of these astrological descriptions apply to you, congratulations, you are most likely a sensation in bed…up against the wall, behind the bikesheds, whatever…

Just don’t go reading any astrological text book written before 1985.  You’ll scream the house down. Actually,  you wouldn’t. Because you’re most likely unflappable. 

But really, to helps those of us without Venus in Scorpio, the 8th House or in tight aspect with Pluto, do tell. Please? 

Are the rumours true?  Do any of the following apply to you: 

* That you have a special outfit just for stalking? 

* That you remember sexual details from your past lives?

* That you have a shrine to some obscure Tantric deity in your bedroom to assure extra-strength sensual rapport?

* That your orgasms last ten minutes?

* That you make sexual partners sign Non-Disclosure Agreements, even when you’re not famous? 

* That you purchase privately commissioned, specifically designed sex toys?

* That you keep track of every single thing? 

* That the perfume you wear to seduce people is illegal in some continents and at least nine islands?

* That you go to ludicrous lengths to guard your privacy, even whilst developing sleuth skills that would have the N.S.A. gagging to hire you, if they but knew?

* That you nearly always have a secret lover/lust interest/recent sexy encounter that nobody else even knows of?

* That you would be actually quite excited if aliens invaded Earth, because of the expanded dating prospects?

* That yes, you’re best described as a Primordial Realist but that you also LONG for a deathless passion of a soulmating experience.  




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Lol!! Yessssss!! I have Venus conjunct Mars and Mercury, Juno and Ceres in Scorpio in the 5th house, with Venus and Mars squaring my Moon in Aquarius in the 8th house, and Venus sextile Pluto in the 3rd. I’m ultra secretive and I’ve had lovers and sexual experiences that no one else will ever know about. It just happens to me. I’m a bit more fantasy focused these days rather than acting on whatever takes my fancy, but I can still read someone’s sexual psyche at a hundred yards. I literally just tap in, and then it’s impossible to sleep… Read more »

Heather R.

Libra sun, venus/mars in scorpio. Pretty accurate!

tilla matilla

Dear, im a woman, in this content , u admin said, venus in SCOrpio or th8 house,or Pluto, but i got almost:| so anyone can tell me how abt this . my venus in SCorpio and also is the 8 House, my pluto is in in Scorpio too :O. Im a sun/moon Saggitarius with AC is aries :).

Danielle B.

YES all of it its true LOL Im a libra girl with venus in scorpio in the eighth house and I also have pluto in scorpio in the same house mercury in scorpio and jupiter as well blablah Oh boy I try no to fall in love cause its dangerous! and I swear the stalking.. its just something i cannot control but luckyy me cause whenever I DO fall in love the guy cant help but to notice and eventually talk to me when he doesnt even know what hes getting himself into I’ll play innocent when the only thing… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.

(I caught sight of the spider on the window. That’s how I ended up in this thread.)

Scorporation, Inc.

I *am* famous, and I cannot discuss my perfume.

Cheeky Mystic.


I have venus in scorpio AND in my 8th house 😀 …I thought I’d just boast:) I’ve left the ones that imply to me * That you remember sexual details from your past lives? * That you have a shrine to some obscure Tantric deity in your bedroom to assure extra-strength sensual rapport? * That your orgasms last ten minutes? * That you make sexual partners sign Non-Disclosure Agreements, even when you’re not famous? ( an exaggeration, but i still seriously dont like everyone knowing my dirty secrets) * That you purchase privately commissioned, specifically designed sex toys? ( cant… Read more »




Venus on scopio 10/11th house

let me just say “It’s twue!!! It’s twue!!”


I have Venus In Scorpio…the Tarot card…High Priestess vibe.


Nic sweetie, the correct term is Sex Worker or Performance Artist as ‘prostitute’ still has some negative connotations…. Thanks peeps and uber virgo…its ok Nic (I went to bed ponderiing if I should say anything) . Just spent 2 years wkg 9-5 for draconian bitch…THAT was prostitution lol! Anyway re scorp secrets et al – I also went without sex during this time and fell for a boy (aaaaw). I don’t fall easily or often hence sex work is like a ‘workout’ and emotionally fits for me. Here’s my biz related site re this fyi lovely ones x feel free… Read more »


.. and tell all we shall! 🙂 Venus in the 8th here conjunct Merc.. both in Virgo. my leo sun also in the 8th YES i am so a primordial realist! wishwishwish i could have a “soul mate” thing like robin williams and anabella sciorra in What Dreams May Come, except, you know, without all the tragedy and hell ..but i still try to prepare myself for what life could be like on my own. (or with a string of boyfriends/fuckbuddies- fun!) ‘i’d LOVE to fall in love’, i think in my deepest thoughts. to have that connection & warm… Read more »


alot of these apply to me, but I don’t have any of the venus- scorpio connections. What i do have though is Jupiter in the 8th….


I’m visiting my bff who has Venus in Scorpio on Friday. For all her Saggy lighthearted fun, her *ways* in relationships can be pretty intense. Its almost like she’s split between intensity/depth and free spirit/devil-may-care. Its almost like the same problem I have with my own Cancer Sun/Gem Venus combo, only at her core she probably wasn’t meant to be bound, and yet she so easily ends up creating these bonds that are difficult to get out of. At my core I would loooove intense attachment, but I rarely ever have it in me to make any sort of commitment…we’re… Read more »


ex hubby is venus in scorpio. He does not match this list at all, except maybe the last. weird weird day….. His girlfriend got snarky with me today, when she shouldn’t have. Later, I told her that wasn’t cool and told him i was sick of his dragging our finalizing of agreements out. I started to totally melt down and then left. REALLY SUCKS. blah….moon in cancer, you hit me hard today. this morning turned in keys at the job I had to quit cause of my recent bed health. They were so nice and concerned I ended up crying….ugh.… Read more »


Big gentle hug Fushia. xx


that was suppose to say bad health, not bed health. but you know, that is what it is….I should be in bed.


I have Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio plus Sun, Mercury and Ceres. For fun I checked out asteroids Persephone and Medusa and they are both in Scorpio conjunct my sun. All in my 11th house 🙂 I can only agree to the statements partially – That i keep track of everything. Only if it were to interest me. I can store it as a library or timeline. Mercury trine Jupiter (in Pisces, 3rd house). – I remember details of some past lives and not just the sexual parts. I only like to delve into it if it helps me to… Read more »


Venus, Mars, Sun, Moon in Scorp
Celibate for 10 years. By choice mind you:)


My mum has Sun, Mercury, Venus in Scorpio and I think she is more likely to have been a nun if not a family person. It’s the drama of Scorpio, so interesting.


My Mercury is actually in Scorpio also and I have Pluto in the 1st house. I think an overabundance of anything will spontaneously produce its opposite. Carl Jung had a theory about this. It could be my Virgo ASC though also. I am not saying its totally healthy but I channel the energy to other areas of my life and while I can’t say I want to live this way forever, so far so good!


Ha! I just told my mum this as she was quite baffled by this post. She was calmed by the words ‘Jung’ and ‘celibate’ very nicely, lol. A Virgo asc, must be a handy thing with a lot of Scorp!


Yep…. Venus in Scorp AND conjunct Pluto!!!

I don’t like the jealousy/ obsession part of it but the primordial-sex thing is fantastic!!!


Wow guys! I have a Scorpy Moon, but only Lilith and Pallas in the 8th. Maybe I am missing out on something, 😉 it seems a deep and knowing Venus placement. I always think of it is mainly artistic (mine’s in Kataka) but in Scorpio it’s a really a different animal. My Venus in the 1st is kind of gritty pretty I think, not at all this lovely priestess/vulvic vibe I am sensing here, lol. It seems Scorpio should be the perfect way to get readership though doesn’t it? It bleeds it reads/sex sells… Sorry, dunno where my head is… Read more »


Venus-Pluto, exact conjunction.

No to most of these. I don’t stalk. Ok, a little, but I don’t go out of my way and I respect people’s privacy. I’m not an especially jealous person. My perfume may be illegal, though. I haven’t checked. And the non-disclosure agreement is really a good idea.

“That yes, you’re best described as a Primordial Realist but that you also LONG for a deathless passion of a soulmating experience.”

And this fits.


.^ LMAO ! Reminded me of a Scorpio mars,too!


I only have Chiron in the 8th and Venus in Taurus. Would it be fair to say that while the scorps are intensly sexual, ( and downright scary) that Venus in Taurus are intensely sensual ? I must say the above comments keep giving me images similar to that scene in lord of the rings where frodo wanders into that cave with the massive female spider.. She stings him into a deadening trance, wraps him tight in web and leaves him to suck his essence later.

fallen angel

Venus in Toro is TACTILE to the nth, davidl.. I mean, silk seductions, fur fantasies, the lot. And absolutely appetite bound. So it’s rather lusty in a frank, earthy way that makes no excuses and just gets on with it.. While they like the odd roll in the hay/floor/interesting surface, Venus in Toro focuses on maximizing the er..penetrative aspects of experience in full comfort. Some call it lazy, but I found they just think being off a comfy surface is an unnecessary distraction. It doesn’t always have to be a bed but it’s got to hold up to the impact,… Read more »


Yes, can you believe that when I met Toro he had wanted his massage on his couch? I was like, uh no, I’ve had back surgeries. So he got an egg crate type mattress and put a sheet on it, put it on the floor and then pranced around in a yellow and white striped towel like a cock-a-doodle…lol He was face down the whole time and when it came time to turn over I realized that he could, er, not. So I finished my massage and sat back on the couch and closed my eyes and went into meditation/stoned/zone.… Read more »


And no mention of words like fun, romance..where is the love ?


Venus in Scorp native and while most of those are a bit exaggerated, I’d say absolute YES to the last one. That sums it all up. Inner struggle with having all the idealist passion of wanting to believe in a soulmate, yet being painfully aware that the concept is fallible and that life is unfair.


6 are mostly true;)

Venus conjunct Pluto


Have Draconic (past/”other” lives) Venus in Scorpio…Conjunct natal Neptune in Scorpio 5th. Yes, came to realize I was often just a fantasy. Men did not really care about the real me…

What else is new except much more discerning.


Funny i live 10 blocks directly south of this photo for 8 years now, and i have venus in the 8th. The brown building is a sanitation truck station and in the winter houses salt for melting of the snow on streets. In the right upper corner is the new freedom tower, and to the left jerzey city. I usually dont tell people where i live, so Yes to this and about 5 things posted, esp alien dating prospects… Would increase the gay dating pool significantly. Especially if its the other way around, 90 percent gay species and 10 percent… Read more »


As Scorpio Mars-Neptune and Scorpio rising, I am taking notes to see what information I may gather about the Sun, Merc., Venus, Mars, Neptune man with whom I have been somewhat entangled since the June eclipse time. According to everything I have read, he is a genius stalker. But I get the impression that he is not stalking me. And as strange as it sounds, I wish he would stalk me – in the sense of him wondering where I go to after I slip out of his house. I also wonder where he is on that sexual obsession-celibacy spectrum… Read more »


hmm i wonder if pluto opposing mars/venus counts?

and thinking of the ‘plays’, i used to, in lo-pluto mode, snoop and the intensity of the physical reaction to the process can only be described as sexual


Yes, Pluto opp. Mars/Venus does count. About that, I have noticed that “Pluto” people, which I am defining here just for this discussion as those who have Pluto with or opposite Sun, Moon, or probably even Venus and Mars, are the ones most likely to say that they’ve never been truly in love. Everyone thinks this at one point or another, but when I hear “Pluto” people say it, there is such a yearning sound in their voice that I know they feel it at a much deeper level than the average lovelorn person. (And yes re the physical reaction.… Read more »


Hi Inchy – yeah, that insatiable urge for another level down, just one more, another level of reverb … retrospect reveals the false ‘love’ attachments made by everything but, and even then, you question the true loves, were they actually that significant??

Dangerous vortex indeed. Altho I think play can be the healthiest manifestation of it – mindful play or something.


I think the only way I could personally explain an 8th Venus is to say, it’s that thing that transfixes you on the balcony during a really intense wind. That love of being on the edge of…something. I find the only reason I eat is to sedate myself, like using a tranquilizer. To soothe that desire for a little while. If I’m absorbed in something I completely forget to eat, but I still feel hunger, it’s just that hunger is something one always feels emotionally and so when absorbed, you don’t even notice. So many times throughout the day I… Read more »


Love that description! Being a water sign it makes much more sense to describe Venus in Scorpio/8th house with an elemental metaphor rather than a list of bullet points. Akin to your wind analogy I once took surfing lessons, and found that falling off the board and being pulled under by the current was a more pleasant sensation than trying to keep my balance on the board. Maybe all the water in my chart was trying to tell me something. There was something about surrendering to the force of the water and the pull of the current that appealed to… Read more »


I think bullet points are only accurate or explanatory if you’re talking about or to an insomniac Virgo.

Yes, submerging and surfacing is far more interesting than trying to keep control and stay afloat. 🙂 Riding with the body instead of the mind.

I would agree with your quote and echo it with a Patrick Wolf lyric, “I want total chaos, and a holiday home in the east” ha ha! that forever contradiction. everything, all at once.


Beautifully put , Appleskies. Will go for an afternoon walk in the bush now with this imagery in the background …:)


Hmm, this is going to be an anonymous post… Venus in 8th house here. I am absolutely horrified to even think anyone I’m intimate with would be discussing me, and I NEVER discuss who I am seeing, no matter how long it has been going on. I’m going to look into that NDA, good idea! And yes, I always have something going that no one knows about.. Why not? It’s nobody’s damn business Had an orgasm that lasted five minutes – once. And had 17 orgasms in one session – once, that was a record. I am definitely much-orgasmic but… Read more »


Oh crap, I was logged in. Now you’re going to think I was bragging because I’m a Leo LOL


no Lioness you go gf secretly loud and proud


Hahaha. NO , we are just going to think you are just beautiful 🙂




17 orgasms…were you counting ?


No, he was.


hehe x

12th house Virgo

I know (one of?) my soul mate(s). He’s a douche bag but every day I hope he’ll call so I can tell him what a douche bag he is and maybe one day he’ll say “You’re right. That’s how I WAS” (ta-dah!) Anyway, I’m the one with the Nep-Venus square, so I Saturn the hell out of that situation. My point? With all the apparently mad Scorp sleuthing skills, a soul mate may not be a best use of energy for a Venus 8th house (craving or not, kind of glad to hear no one stalking the MIA “perfect” one).… Read more »


Scorpio Rising, Scorpio Venus, Neptune and Jupiter all in the 1st House. Yes, to all of the above. Extremely secretive and will NOT disclose sexual relationships to anyone ever.
I’d say you had us Venusian Scorps pegged. I thought this normal- ha! ha!


Venus in the 8th. Fi covered it well, particularly the last point on how incredibly bored we are with most prospects and would rather remain celibate. I just don’t bother with people who don’t also have an 8th house Venus or a Scorp one. Whether or not a chart is possible, intuition always picks it up. The other ones just think your depths will “save them” in whatever way, but in the end, they always go revert back. Honestly, if you want an accurate portrait head to Zulawski’s films. Possession when it’s falling apart, Szamanka when it’s going well. He… Read more »

Gneiss Moon

holy #@% ! intense !!


she ate his brain ?


“because you death.”


I find the movie quite average.
Planets in the last degree,or near next cusp,exibit Both sides,in a very individual,unique way;it is not easy to spot right away. With planets in 8th house it is particulary difficult,just when u think u have reached it,there is another elusive dimension.

Gneiss Moon

Intrigued could not agree more re: cusps & energies. Also agree with deep layering of the 8th, although I think that is true of the whole chart as well, I find that 8th house is more so in my life.


Yeah, I agree, I think you’ve got it. A bit of both that’s forever elusive.


Both my mate & I are Venus in the 8th house! And… yeah, a lot of that! Big exception; we were both picky about who we dated. He was a serial monogamist, I was just Picky.

15 years and still sexual napalm, I’d say it’s working!

The privacy thing kills me, that’s us!


Hmm. I have Venus sq Pluto in scorp- dating Multiple Scorpio with Venus in Scorpio. Would love to answer your questions based on what I see. (Virgos love surveys). Stalking outfit: (sorry, I’m Venus Leo! I have outfits for everything, dahling.) Scorp man just wears anything out of a standard wardrobe. He will often have 20 of the same brand of shirt in different styles, prepared to rip them off and buy new ones, or perhaps reflect his mood. And he will stalk when he feels it is necessary, and really doesn’t care how it looks…on any level. Past lives:… Read more »


Mystic,I was wondering,what number of degrees do u use as an orb of influence?

Gneiss Moon

>* That yes, you’re best described as a Primordial Realist but that you also LONG for a deathless passion of a soulmating experience. <

Venus conj Jup/8th squ Nep Scorp = yes to the above, more than once

Gneiss Moon

read above as : have had, more than once; to clarify


That a big “ten four” (I can see what you mean) mama…Wowza… x


haha i don’t fuq around, all or nothin baby x
O & O
(over and out) 😀




while i don’t have any of the markers, i’m guessing that my sun/pluto/mercury/uranus/asc smashup explains why all the descriptions apply. a good friend jokingly refers to me as kgbea and commented that it’s okay, i can let people know she’s married now (though her relationship began rather clandestinely she’s been married for going on 12 years!). my old boss referred to me as mata hari and would jump whenever I entered a room. i always find it amusing as i am very tiny (though tall in my head — venus leo in the 12th, just a few degrees out of… Read more »

Piscean closed for renovation

that’s one scorpy first house, kgbea!


guess that’s what allowed me to hold my own in entirely scorpy family! hmmm. maybe that’s why they’re all scared of me! hehehe.


Same here Bea! Mom and sister are both Scorp and we all kind of work around each other. No major emotional outbursts or fights (you’d think there would be right?), but I think that’s because we all know how disastrous that would be, so it’s best to be avoided, lol. I’m also a petite Scorp and secretly enjoy having the natural talent of being able to play the silent shadow. Walking up behind people and just waiting for them to turn around and jump with a “whoa! how long have you been standing there? you shouldn’t sneak up on people… Read more »

Tropic of Capricorn

Hehe that’s cute Lauren. I’m a Scorp. I’ll never forget, as teenagers, my younger Leo sister yelling at me out of sheer frustration: “How come you never talk?!!!!” I was a bit baffled by her outburst and just shrugged my shoulders and mumbled “dunno..” … I was just being me.


Love this post. for a bunch of scorps you are laying down your ‘secrets’ just fine and i am soooo jealous. I have moon in scorp and eros in scorp can I join in too?


lol, what ya doing on the new moon in scorp, pussycat? at 3 degrees it exactly hits my eros conjunct psyche in scorp, and possibly your eros and moon too, and my mars in leo loves leos. So, ok, I’m hetero, and you probably are too, but maybe life would be a whole lot easier if we just changed teams? Just joshing x


your place or mine baby ha! Love your post from above above. The spiritual side of scorp is one Id like to explore more. “Good scorp is all about the spiritual side of sex – sex as profoundly healing of fears and trauma and deep wounds. ” so true. i read Kim Falconer ‘s (bless you) descripion of Eros years ago and it said YES to me- thats what I want risk AND depth and with eros in scorp I want spiritual as well. Have found this in the lusty leo but he is a slo moving mars in toro/shy… Read more »


For Jasmine lovers,I recommend Sarrasins,Serge Lutens.
But,pure oil is another ingenious option,but beware that u order the right thing.


Jasmine is amazing

Piscean closed for renovation

I do recall that a ridiculously sexy mars-in-scorp type (sun virgo) and I went on a simply gorgeous date one night, which I told a girlfriend about – like, why wouldn’t you. And later he asked me if I had told her – I said, well, yes, she’s my friend and I had a great time with you – and he was Pissed Off. If he had simply mentioned his privacy policy I may have decided to curb the verbs, but hey it was open borders as far as I was aware. There was no reason to be a Secret… Read more »


Venus in the 8th here and I read somewhere once that my Pluto in Scorp opp my Mars gives me a Scorpionic approach to lovers. I wonder if that’s true? I’m guilty the most of sleuthing and being completely appalled when they try to do the same. Recently someone I’ve known for years got drunk around me for the first time (I had remained sober) and started asking me invasive questions. I was horrified by them for the next few days and could hardly bring myself to talk to them, even though they didn’t even remember half of it. I… Read more »


Have finally looked at my psycho stalker ex-husband’s chart.. Surprise, surprise – venus in the 8th ( and sun ) trines his scorp/lilith rising.. Kataka sun btw ( thanks to that, I run a mile from all kataka men ). Can’t. Let. Go. I have had things stolen ( the latest one was my car!! ), online accounts hacked, my relationships interfered in.. A compulsive liar with obssessive stalker-intruder tendencies. He’s got my sun sign on the cusp of his 12th and I’ve got his.. His juno is conj my saturn, uranus – both my saturn and my sun. Our… Read more »


Oh hell my Venus in the 8th trines my Scorp Lilith/Rising AND Pluto. But I’m a Leo sun and I don’t steal people’s cars, hack their accounts or interfere in their relationships. Thank god! 🙂


If you find a way to get rid of stalkers (legally) let me know. I have a double Scorpio who won’t leave me the fuq alone.


I have Venus in Scorpio, in the 8th house, and conjunct Pluto, and yet I only identify with two of these. Am I doing it wrong?


That Peruvian ( ?) spider just put all thoughts of sex and fun right out of my


I have Scorpio 5th house (Jupiter and Ceres in Scorpio) I agree with most of the posts I do stalk, I do perfume, I do intense and hiper sexual not-matter-how short affairs-romance. I don´t date, I go all the way down, to the core and eventually all that intensity would scare someone who doesn not have the charachter to sustain the affair/romance/whtaever. I have been told I was great in bed, that I should do it professionally (¿??) I admit I am very sexual, and I might get obsesed with sex. But hey, it actually nurtures me: Ceres in Scorpio… Read more »

plutonic gem

Venus in 8th here… I sometimes think I’m obsessed with sex, I have a hypotheses that women actually think about sex more than men do! But then don’t share that too often as I fear I may expose my own obsession. I think about having sex with most days with some random person in my orbit, they can become secret crushes very quickly or just the object of my fantasy. I find thinking about having sex while in boring meetings helps me to concentrate and have the energy to get through. Can orgasm just thinking about sex, usually at hormonally… Read more »


I can relate to so much your saying PG especially the privacy & sex issues. Lol the orgasms as health tonic 🙂 agree!

My Venus Aqua in 7th house & it’s quincunx Pluto & trine Mars. Lilith Aries & Magdalena pisces in 8th house along with hoary old Saturn.


Wait, are we the same person?

Sun conj Merc in 8h (libra)
Venus conj Saturn Scorpio in 9h on MC
Pluto in Scorpio 9h
Pluto sextile Mars + Neptune + Jupiter in 11h
Pluto sq Asc

Lesson I’ve yet to learn = keeping my secrets secret, knowing when to turn off the magnetism/being patient, setting up more definitive boundaries


Lack of patience lost me the multiple conj Aries with the grand water trine. I think he coud’ve been the one who could handle my shit.

Something tells me he’ll be back, though.

plutonic gem

well huuh…. almost hey… i also have sun in that line up sun merc venus and saturn all in 8th house gemini… I reckon with yours in libra, a fellow air sign we would def have some similarities going on…

The Virgo librarian

Huuuuh, what you wrote really resonates with me especially – “knowing when to turn off the magnetism/being patient”. I have Progressed Venus in Libra ON my natal Pluto in Libra (horrid transit) and Progressed Sun in Scorpio. The magnetism is why I invented my librarian persona. Since my progression and Venus-Pluto Libra transit I have been sooo emotional, all my relationships are intense – they are love/hate or nothing – and never before have I been this secretive AND had this many secrets to be secretive about. My inner life is a fountain of zest. Wow, you are soo great… Read more »

Ãœber Virgo

BTW, does that woman at the window with her pet tarantula realize she’s caused a truck pile up on the street below?

Or at least a temporary truck stop.


of course she does darling! venus in scorpio misses nothing, but does love to test her power every now and then. she can get more attention standing silent, 100 floors up, behind glass, with her little arachnid mate, and by focussing her laser beam, than most people can by going on TV, or holding up a major bank on Wall Street. it’s a matter of an inner radar and laser focus of attention that is unaffected by distance. i’ve seen it in my mother, a scorp. she knows, and she sends out wordless hynotic messages, wherever she is. it is… Read more »

fallen angel

Oh, and here’s a question re: Venus in Scorp.. is it me or does that placement also have a terrible vulnerability most people just don’t see. Like once hurt, the wound so deep and dark, can hardly get the air and light it needs to heal. I think there’s a tenderness, nay a fragility to Venus in Scorp which is never admitted, or intentionally shown. I know a few Venus in Scorp peeps and after being badly hurt, I see them hurt themselves as well.. usually by being hard on themselves or taking on more blame than they ought to.… Read more »

fallen angel

Wow.. I did always think that. In that sense, I feel (how Kataka!) that a Venus Scorp needs to literally die unto itself and be reborn, to soar like an eagle. While heartbreak and the ensuing loss of innocence is such a universal experience, I tend to think Venus Scorps literally get mired by the pain..and I don’t just mean right after. It’s like living through a thick, unseen miasma for them. Of course, a lot depends on other aspects of the individual’s charts.. but certainly, it seems that if they can’t “surgically treat” the wound, it informs further decisions.… Read more »

Ãœber Virgo

All of this reminds me of the Inanna & Persephone myths. Women who took trips to the underworld, more or less unwillingly. For both there’s a sacrificial element to their journeys. Neither can go back to their prior innocence, but both also make it through, and return to the light radically transformed. Pluto is the most intense transformative power after all. For Persephone, her surfacing from the underworld ends winter on earth and brings the warmth, light and growth of spring. And Hades is a better place for her presence. Ultimately, she has mastered both the light and the dark.


Love this. Persephone’s story is such an important myth for women I feel, harks back to what we were talking about in the Soul Birds thread too. The girl to woman, the lady of death who brings the growth of spring too, innocence and maturity, she is childish beauty and horror too.

Bought a lovely Rossetti print of her, the look of the eyes is just right.


True. The gift of going into the underworld is maturity, wisdom. But nobody ever chooses to go there…
Venus conjunct Pluto in Leo square Mars in Scorp under a Virgo Sun. Yes to privacy, yes to sleuthng – am a Google queen -cannot do casual sex, it is merging of souls or celibacy. Must try the jasmine.


Angel of the Fall,
I tend to agree with the above about Scorp Venus, as it was my experience
with the ONLY lover i have had in 6 years. He WAS the hottest lover ever but
overly connected to the past ones.
But to me anything is better than my Cap Venus who wants style & money
ensemble….a rare combination alas.


This rings true


Sadly, you’re right about the vulnerability and the deep hurts. When I found out that an ex had cheated on me (another Scorpio and the one I thought was my soulmate, go figure) I stopped eating, slept all the time (and took sedatives when my mind was racing too much to let me sleep) and suffered several panic attacks. I felt like one big gaping wound and overcompensated by locking out everyone and everything and going deep, deep inside to get away from all the pain. And what’s worse is that even though I felt like my heart had been… Read more »


Been there. Uh, so happy not to be heartbroken, it’s horrid and there is nothing you can do but wait it out.


This does remind of a quote that’s always resonated with me: “A love like that was a serious illness, an illness from which you never entirely recover.” Charles Bukowski is actually a Leo but it looks like he has his Mars in Scorpio. Or, what hurts most about a broken heart is not being able to remember how you felt before. In my personal experience once hurt, there is a pain so deeply horrific that recovery is nearly impossible. The tragedy of betrayal does…kill a sense of innocence, that prior to the betrayal enabled an ability to love without restraint.… Read more »

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cats, i wouldn’t say that recovery is nearly impossible. i think what we receive in place of an un-broken heart is Wisdom. The naivete of love in some of its forms is wonderful and sweet like an early summer breeze, we all have memories of this. In life, we can never go back. Always forwards. I have experienced a shattered heart more than once, and learnt that to move past the cynicism and hollow feeling is Vital, otherwise it’s like pouring salt onto the earth, leaving everything to dry out and then expecting roses to grow there. Maybe sometimes we… Read more »


No problem, your two cents are appreciated and I actually agree with you. I might sound as if I’m cynical about it but I’m actually not, just a realist? My eyes are very open but I like to think that the realistic lens they see through are framed with optimism. I’m definitely well aware that betrayed love and trust is a part of life and that all of us experience it. And despite the betrayal I haven’t actually let it affect how open I am to new people in my life. It really hurts but it would hurt more to… Read more »

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That’s totally interesting to hear your take on love. I’ve always wondered how people feel so settled about a partner – I want to know how they can have so much faith in (what I see as) something so fickle and unreliable. (this is the part where I have to take my own advice about surveying own emo landscape) I”m sort of along the lines of “how can you be so sure? you’ve only known him for X weeks. You never know what could happen. He’ll probably leave. Men do that. but oh god what if I get BORED! Horror.… Read more »


hahaha … hilarious! I just did up a chart for a friend of mine with Venus and Mars in Scorp as a birthday gift. Poor lil’ Libran probably didn’t expect his private self to be revealed in such black, white and red hot detail.

To find multiple, weighty Scorp placements in the chart of a non Scorp is like being outed for being gay me thinks – especially if their sun sign and ascendant is a bit more glib or seemingly laid back.


Quite so. I remember being faux shocked by my Mars/Venus/Neptune in Scorp bingle. On the other hand it made a lot of sense for my Venus bits.

Scorp men are my kryptonite but Scorpio women I can’t abide. Could there be more to it? Perhaps they are holding up a mirror to me, so I should be taking notes?


Yep you’d think with Cancer sun and venus that I’d adore other cancerians – well I don’t as a rule. Not the one’s I’ve met in real life anyway … however I frequently gravitate to lunar cancerians. Odd innit?


An interesting hypothesis, yet I find it’s usually the other way around… all the people around us experience rather a rude shock, when they unwittingly stumble into our web & realize that under that sweet Libran Sun etc stellium & that good girl pragmatic Cap Asc (in my case) there’s a deeply intense, highly passionate & incisively perceptive being, who not only doesn’t suffer fools gladly but also sees their every hidden motivation/intention & is totally fearless in calling them on it/them.


Sounds like you are working your Scorp to the max (and well), although I would never describe Cap Asc as being glib or laid back! lol

My Libran friend is not au fait with astrology and his response was “fuck me … that’s trippy!”. 😀


I have a pure, undiluted, unaspected Venus in Scorp in the 10th H, in mutual reception with Pluto… & Moon in Leo in the 8th… So yes, some items on the list definitely apply, especially: * That the perfume you wear to seduce people is illegal in some continents and at least nine islands?… Or in fact it should be because it sure does put men in a trance, in which they feel compelled to pull their pants down, ask if I like what I see & beg me to have sex with them. Crazy!!… But it’s happened repeatedly. *… Read more »


Can you at least share the name of the perfume?

Tropic of Capricorn

yes please!!! 😆


hahaahahahahaha come ooon, help us non-scorpers out 😀

fallen angel

Have Venus in Leo, & am horrible at deciphering wotever the hell she’s doing to Pluto, I assume it’s good given my recent residence?

I’d say about the only thing that isn’t true on this is the possibility of my parfum being illegal. I think my crimes go beyond the olfactory but I’d never say 🙂

As for the special stalking outfit, yes, it’s called my skin 🙂

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