Does Sagittarius = Owl?

Owl with Crescent Moon

In Native American astrology, Sagittarius is the Owl.

Hmmm. This sort of fits. Far-seeing, likes to fly, association with wisdom –

But I can’t imagine an Owl type regaling peeps at a party with some insanely inappropriate bit of candid anecdote.

Can you? I link the Owl more with Minerva/Athena, a symbol of wisdom and nocturnal discretion lol.

And Owl Vision is said to be spectacular, no? Like they swoop down from high upon a poor little mouse, able to detect the quivering between the grass blades from even kilometres away. In fact, fuq it: Owl would be more a Virgo symbol, you think?

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FireHorse
FireHorse

I love owls. <3 I have drawn, sculpted and collected them my whole life. Best gift ever was once when I was sick, and Cap hubs went out to buy me some cold medicine, he passed an estate sale. He popped in (always has to go to these things, the curiosity kills him) and this person was selling their owls, and he bought me the WHOLE collection. Came home with a giant cardboard box full of owls. A lovely surprise. I will never part with them. Which is saying a lot b/c I often have the binge/purge urge with "stuff."… Read more »

Lucy
Lucy

Sturgeon from the Thunderbird Clan here.

Visited by a beautiful, mature looking owl when I made a major move in ’03.
In a tree in the backyard and it turned to look at me as if to say, “everything is going to be okay” but years later I’m re-interpreting the message as, “everything is fine.”

davidl
davidl

Red hawk, hmmm, not sure about the reference material, I don’t think that American natives had an astro calendar system similar to ours ? Ummm probably not. So the symbols are probably just made up by someone in modern times to amuse us westerners. Im finding it hard to believe the comments above re Virgo getting too much something and sags being put down ? It’s possibly more childish than I am and that’s saying something 🙂 Methinks a little trouble maker has given themselves a few different names. I have mentioned it above to one of the names… Please… Read more »

RedHeadGem
RedHeadGem

Deer of the butterfly clan!! I love deers, so delicate and strong at the same time. And zippy!
And I can totally see a drunk owl with their specatcles on, swaying their drink as they talk about their late night rendevous, entertaining all that listen. I love saggs and I love owls!

fushiafairy
fushiafairy

love owls….virgo rising and virgo venus.
Just saw a large one on sunday evening…the largest one I have ever seen in the wild. usually I only see little white pygmy owls.

fushiafairy
fushiafairy

oh yea…flicker of the frog clan here….weird. not feeling it at all.

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

I love that Air signs are Butterflies, Water Signs Frogs, and Earth Signs Turtles. I have an obsession with Turtles, used to own some (Phemo the Wise, and Purdy the Brave, may they rest in peace) and do have a somewhat disturbing collection of little turtle ornaments scattered around home and office. My bathroom has four resident plastic turtles holding court around the bath – this is surely one of the reason’s I can’t keep a guy long, but I’m afraid it’s ‘love me, love the turtles’. If there was some kind of Turtle-Cat hybrid animal, like a Griffin but… Read more »

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

Haha, a turtle-cat hybrid is definitely an interesting image. 🙂

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Can you imagine how COOL it would be if you could take a cat into the bath with you???

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

Hahahaha. You know I have seen people taking Sphinx into the bath and they play with the water!

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

I briefly dated a zoo-keeper who was an expert in Owls. He let me hang out and help him train one, I loved that little Owl so much, it was just crazy, made me stick with the guy much longer than I should just to get access to his feathery friends. He is, indeed, a SAGG. Spooky.

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

I love owls and have been visited by them: mega Virgo with Saggo rising, but I’m not sure sign correspondences work for them. I think of them as yin — awake, active and even noisy at night, when every thing else has shut down. The great subversives. And everything has a yin side, so perhaps that’s why so many identify with them. Their association with Goddesses to me is about intuitive wisdom — the ability to see in the dark. Even Pallas, who hung with the men in the yang world of intellectual and physical pissing contests, had the best… Read more »

Ariel
Ariel

Deerhunter/Butterfly for Gemini?! So light breezy & skittish no? It fits… on a bad day I’d say I feel more lumpen vole…

ladycrab
ladycrab

Flicker of the Frog Clan. What IS a Flicker???

andromeda
andromeda

The Northern Flicker (Colaptes auratus) is a medium-sized member of the woodpecker family. It is native to most of North America, parts of Central America, Cuba, the Cayman Islands, and is one of the few woodpecker species that migrate. There are over 100 common names for the Northern Flicker. Among them are: Yellowhammer, clape, gaffer woodpecker, harry-wicket, heigh-ho, wake-up, walk-up, wick-up, yarrup, and gawker bird. Many of these names are attempts at imitating some of its calls. Flicker demonstrates a new rhythm and cycle of growth. She shows the importance of healing love and the power of forgiveness. Insights and… Read more »

belladonna
belladonna

def. agree with the virgo owl conclusion – they always have round eyes that stare right through you.

DoubleMutable
DoubleMutable

Wooo……Deer of the Butterfly clan!

How…..precious. 🙂

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

Wanted to mention that this post reminded me of owl from the film Blade Runner. Yes the director Ridley Scott is a Sagittarius, and the author the book is a Sagittarius also. 🙂 Though I haven’t read the book so I don’t know if the owl appears there too.

ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising

Blade Runner a classic! Thanks for pointing that out to me. Are you excited to see part 2?

phishie
phishie

I think Mystic is like me–a Magpie or a Bower bird! She collects all these lovely bits of information and art on this site for us to enjoy. I do the same– I have a huge collection of images, poems, interesting articles, quotes, etc on my computer.

Which sign would be magpie or bowerbird? Maybe Gemini would be the magpie and Libra or Cancer would be the bowerbird. All those are prominent in my chart: Gemini node, Chiron in 4th house and Venus in Libra.

Mimi
Mimi

in fact, there is no OWL on that chart!

lee
lee

I noticed that, too. 🙂

Mimi
Mimi

a flicker is a beautiful bird with black spots on its tawny belly.

I went to the Native american astrology website and it did NOT say that Sagittarius was OWL it said we were ELK.

SourPatch
SourPatch

BTW, what the hell is a flicker? Oh wait, nevermind…I googled. Can’t say I’m dissapointed since I love most birds. Actually, I like most animals. Its now frog/toad season here and I get ridiculously excited when I see them in my front lawn at night….LOL. I’m such a dork.

aimee
aimee

Wow this is crazy. You know how certain people look like animals?..well the most Sag-girl I know–seriously the biggest astrological stereotype ever—she looks just like an owl! Everyone says so. I wish I could show you all a picture.

On top of that I was looking up my signs (virgo sun/scorp moon&rising) and was weirded out because I always have reoccurring snake dreams or brown bear dreams.

Mystic's Scorpio Intern
Mystic's Scorpio Intern

Snakes dreams are powerful! They represent healing and transformation, ie. shedding the ego’s ‘skin’ as the process of revealing the core Self. I haven’t had one for almost seven years, at which time I was definitely undergoing a psychological death/renewal. Similar to the symbolism of yin-yang are the caduceus (emblem of the present day medical profession) and alchemical ouroboros. Both dreams seem to allude that you are integrating and therefore realising your psyche’s creative, dynamic potential. I too dreamt of brown grizzly bears earlier this year, so have looked it up: “For Jung, domesticated and wild animals represented different aspects… Read more »

ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising

I also dream of brown bears and snakes. Profound dreams are brought by a mother brown bear.
(Virgo Sun Scorpio Rising)

year of the fox
year of the fox

Anyone who doesn’t think Saggies have owl qualities hasn’t seen the “Hungover Owls” Tumblr yet. lol! BTW love owls…I think of them more as Libran than Virgoan. But maybe Saggo is right?

http://hungoverowls.tumblr.com/

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

YOTF – great link – hilar!!! Realise Owls are as diverse as we are – all signs and combos. xx

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

YOTF – freaking brilliant. I’m hysterical

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

i can def see saggies as owls. i think i am relating it to ‘perspective’.
sagg’s are also v intellectual creatures and always have brain fodder for you.

SourPatch
SourPatch

I think owls are more of a Virgo/Scorpio combo.

emily
emily

Sagitarrius as wise or… in search of wisdom? I think owls might be capricorn, or another sign thats just on another mission altogether. They are skilled hunters, applying what they know. Unconcerned with anything else.

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

I’m deer of the butterfly clan, and I can say a butterfly had my attention this afternoon. Much more relate to my Chinese animal the ox but think I have a secret desire to be more like the deer…. so will work with that energy now : )

andromeda
andromeda

Sweet symbols PG. But I love the Gem Ox peeps so much I married one. Solid and light – perfection!

Pegasus
Pegasus

That owl eye’s just winked at me!! AND i’m reading a book where the Snow Owl
is a totem for the enemy tribe in the book ‘Lord of Snow & Shadows’. The snow owl
has golden eyes and is trained to attack.
Sagg & Owl? Wouldn’t argue with the American Indians, who also say it represents
Deception and associated with omens magic & time & space.
Would say the deception comes in because they look kinda cutie pie cuddly,
but whose talons & beak can tear apart.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Yes, regardless of sign or anything i see owl with you. Actually, always see FEATHERS around your posts, Pegs. And hide. Working hide. No analysis, just a vision.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Millie darlin’ have a HUGE collection of feathers (and shells).
Planning to use them in an art thingie something one day.
Yes, also have BIG leather collection (and fur).
Will donate the leather & fur to orphan baby animal care soon.

Animals gravitate to you? Then so do i! Birds too? Closest to angels some say birds are. They are so much more spiritually evolved than many of us. We need to protect them more than we do.
My beautiful setter from the past was called Red Cloud after reading the book
‘Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee’.

Joan
Joan

DEER of the butterfly clan! yeah that’s me 🙂

gemyogi
gemyogi

Me too Joan. Funny I have always thought of butterfly as a totem but not deer.

saturnian
saturnian

What a fantastic discussion. There’s no point in my repeating aforementioned insight. Instead I’ll just say thank you. What a great read – all these responses.

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

Owls find me.. and get gifted to me. I have a Greek mother so Athena and Zeus (LOL Jupiter eh) et al feel like old friends of my soul. But my Scorp sis is also Owl energy in my view and that would be the only other sign I’d resonate Owl with in a general sense. Allow me to introduce myself…..I am Elk of the Thunderbird Clan. Apparently Obsidian is my stone however I do use it but clear quartz is my true fave and right now I can’t get enough of my fire agate energy. Still I’m sure I… Read more »

andromeda
andromeda

I’ve gone mad on Mookaite lately. It’s just Jasper, but it has this amaazing sweet resonance that sets my energy field humming.

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

Will have to check it out if there’s any at my local haunt. See if you can get some fire agate.. it’s a cross btwn reds, oranges and creamy white. My piece is stunning.. the woman there always brings me a surprise from out the back so I try not to go too regularly or I’d be broke LOL. She also got me a fab piece of green amber and it’s in the shape of a leaf… yum =)

andromeda
andromeda

Green amber…drool! The Mookaite is sometimes caramel and cream, or a maroon red with streaks of iron, it is pretty! Fire agate must wait till i have funds for a shop, I would love some. I want to try and collect more Australian stones, I think I am attracted to the Mookaite partly because of that.

Dee
Dee

mm… I’m a Cougar of the frog clan too, lol. Love it!

Pluto Puppy
Pluto Puppy

I wansn’t blaming.;)

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

I don’t think anyone’s blaming, I just meant that I can relate to the obsession, if that is what it is. 😉 I do agree that I have yet to meet a Saggo that doesn’t smile! They’re lovely.

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

I’m pretty sure Mystic is a Pisces, so her opposite is Virgo and prayhaps that explains all the Virgo post and such? Can’t say I blames her, seeing as Aquarius is my opposite and if I were running an astro blog I’d probably post about them a lot. 🙂 But I love owls! I have owl rings and my favorite owl is the barn owl. Only Saggo I have is Mean Lilith, though. You know my madre is actually Native American and she grew up with the belief that hearing an owl’s cry in the night is bad luck. Barn… Read more »

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

Also, I had to look up what a Sturgeon is. A fish, seriously?! Wow… Well at least I’m of the Thunderbird clan. 😀

andromeda
andromeda

Hello Fellow Sturgeon of the Red Thunderbird Clan. Dios mio..

As a Leo I actually resonate with the concept of the Redhawk of the Yellow Thunderbird peeps more, they have Fire Opals and Dandelions too, I love those! Oh well.

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

Oooo, yes, I want to be Redhawk of the Yellow Thunderbird too! Sigh.

Pegasus
Pegasus

‘Virgin Sturgeon need no urgin, that’s why caviar is my dish’.
Mae West or someone like thats quote.

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Owls vibe a combo of Aqua/Scorp to me. Mystic has been leaning heavily towards the lovely Virgo energy atm but it’s where the Sun/Venus is at.

Note to Southern Hemisphere peeps – I prefer to reverse the animal/clan thing: rather than a Sturgeon of the Thunderbird Clan (wtf), I’m going with the Otter of the Butterfly Clan (especially with the colour silver).

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

My multi-Aqua girl with Scorp rising seriously vibes owl to me – she’s genius/compassionate/wise beyond her years. Intuitively her totem is the Owl.

Luscious Leo
Luscious Leo

Yes, I agree re Owls vibing Aquarian. I think its their ability to: observe; detach; be independent; and the go full throttle for what they want when they choose to.

leogroover
leogroover

Ok with that FF. i’ll be a otter anyday than a stugeon. Silver is my fav colour

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

I like your style – in that case, instead of being an Orange Snake of the Frog clan, I’m a Blue Beaver of the Turtle clan.

I’d agree to Blue Beaver, not much action near my beaver….

Pluto Puppy
Pluto Puppy

The owl does know how to bat those lashes though.

year of the fox
year of the fox

That’s just white mascara. The owl just wants you to think they’re real.

goldenfleece
goldenfleece

Redhawk of the Thunderbird Clan. Niiiice one.

Have to sit on the owls as Saggies though…

Zaiborg
Zaiborg

A Freezes Up, Prickly Thistle, Snake from the Frog clan.

Yeesh.

Be nice to vibe something warm and fuzzy just for a change…

Pluto Puppy
Pluto Puppy

Vibing politeness to keep peace at all cost is not how humans grow, or see.
There’s plenty of warmth available to those who know what warmth is.

GeorgeSand
GeorgeSand

Yeah that’s me too and I resent the snake thing! I am Haute Scorp. Sheesh! And I love owls (in fact have a few american indian and inuit owl fetishes) but one ate by beloved siamese, so am a bit wary of them.

Pluto Puppy
Pluto Puppy

Wisdom is demonstrated through our being, our perspectives and deeds. Our being goes beyond the repression of findind inconsequential details to prove how right we are, or cynical nagging which reflects our self-loathing or inner-stagnation. I am yet to meet or know a Saggy who does not smile and laugh frequently around people because of the way they feel inside. I cannot say this about the Virgo reality I have known… quite the opposite. Sagittarius is the wild and free horse running with the wind in their hair. The arrow of Truth manifests depending on the acute intuition of that… Read more »

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

OK, I’m not quite following your definition of politics or ‘politicizing’ but I think you have successful demonstrated the baseless bias you refer to above. So you don’t like Virgos, righteo, we got it. I’ve been screwed over majorly by a Libran once and the worst person I ever met in my life is a Sagittarius – but I still gotta lotta love to give to the rest of them. Hitler was a Taurus, Stalin was a Sagg, Nixon a Capricorn. In short, my point, we’re here to be playful with our astrological education, and I feel most people here… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Stalin was a Sagittarius??? Glad i didn’t know that this morning.

Sagg-scorp girl
Sagg-scorp girl

mmm nice comment PP

Issy
Issy

I have always loved owls – maybe that is my sag moon. I am meant to be a ‘flicker’ what ever that is of the frog clan as well…

Pluto Puppy
Pluto Puppy

Yeah what’s with the Virgo worship? lol… I don’t see the connection of the microscopic anal-ysis of Virgo with the expansive inner-buoyancy and VISION of heart-knowning human honesty like Sagittarius nature.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Honey, it’s VIRGO’S Month, alors.
Of the may years here i have never seen any biases nor
over-promotion of ANY of the signs.

Pluto Puppy
Pluto Puppy

It’s not about over-promotion. It’s about if someone politicizes this language of symbols they better back-it-up with WHY they say what they say in their political opinion. I don’t mind bias at all. I do mind baseless whims.

I could promote Virgo’s are the Termites in a blog, but without me sharing the Why behind that perception, it is worthy of an opposing response.

It’s not Virgo’s month. It’s all of humanity’s month, like it is every month.

Segregation is stuffy old school.

Pegasus
Pegasus

PP of course it’s all humanity’s month but this is an ASTRO site,
hence it’s VIRGO’s month.

Pluto Puppy
Pluto Puppy

Ok. I’ll have to remember that Virgo’s month is definitely Not about over-promotion, regardless if Virgo promoters (as above) say it’s not in any way a promotion and fail to know what they’re actually taking about. How naive of me. Please forgive.

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

Political opinion? Um, it’s an astrology blog, darl, by the wittiest, funniest and sexiest astrologer on the planet. If you want politics, try googling Christopher Hitchens.

I see the International Federation of Virgos is going to extend their sense of humour rehabilitation program to all the signs. You should sign up. It includes an hour with Stephen fry, introducing you to the word ‘fun’. If that doesn’t work, we shall have to tickle you.

Pluto Puppy
Pluto Puppy

I should sign up huh? And your comment is not political? Hm. Pure Hypocrisy. Try sharing something that can benefit someone? If you could, that is. Is that in your capacity? Or if I do sign-up as you say I should do, all will be swell in your illusory mind? What good can come from me doing what you politicize I should do? Serving your fragile-ego will only get you this kind of response.

Pluto Puppy
Pluto Puppy

Anyone with a an-eigth of a mind would know that politics is in HOW we talk to one another. We don’t need to watch CNN, register and vote to be political.

davidl
davidl

Please fuq off deary, I know you haven’t had much response to your comments but really if you no likey the stuff why hang around ? comprendey ?

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

Never mind davey.

The IFV tickled it and we almost resorted to spanking, but it was still jibbering about politics and blowing hot air so we abandoned the mission. I mean you can’t rehabilitate its sense of humour if it never had one in the first place.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Come back in 20 yrs….

😉

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Meaning, I know who this is. All I’m gonna say.

ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising

zing…
yes, a sense of humor is essential in life and reading these posts and comments.

Sagg-scorp girl
Sagg-scorp girl

Yes, I do not think that about this site, in an evil or overly sort of precious way either pegasus…..I was being sensitive and i think it is mainly very well equal. thank you for saying that

SourPatch
SourPatch

The only over-promotion I see is in your post. Have you actually met any Virgos? Because your piece sounds more like a cookbook astrology stereotype than a true perception of them (Or I should say “us” since I’m a Virgo Moon). There IS more to Virgo than the mercurial neuroticness.

Link
Link

Gee I’m an Otter in the Butterfly clan, which sounds a tad incongruous.

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

Hee hee

Ali B Aqua
Ali B Aqua

Me too. At least we have silver.

Sagg-scorp girl
Sagg-scorp girl

Hello Im a saggitarian and I think MM well she has taken away the qualities of Saggitarians here and given them to Virgos! How come they get all the best things eh?! When I was a little girl I collected owl ornaments. Was very drawn to them after visit to Greece. Does anyone agree. or not….?

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

xxLeo Mom collected Owl ornaments for the house. Must check her chart…
She did have Sagg rising/Jupiter in 1st.

On the other hand, Persian culture considers them bad luck…ha, I have Athena/Juno on Libran NN opposite Black Moon Lilith.

Came across a dead owl. Parked the car and went back to retrieve…Ominous message in that and it came to fruition.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Ominous tho as in I was being protected. Never seems to make sense until later…

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

flipped out owl freak from way back: 3 planets Sag + Sag Asc Birds in general behave pertinently towards me, and at times owls have befriended and remained when i was convinced they’d be scared/ignoring. Includes crows, ravens, willy wagtails (INSTANT LOVE!) usually but have had freak comedy encounters with other birds and also butterflies. The birds often chatter chatter chatter all intensely right at my face. Or silently zoom at me. Wouldn’t attribute to a sign though, as have seriously odd animal encounters with a few diff animals. Horses in groups respond strongly. Individual dogs and male cats espec.… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

Hope you saved some feathers, Sweetie.

lovechild
lovechild

I agree completely Sag Scorp girl! I am Sag, with Mars, Mercury and Venus in Scorpio, and I love owls too. Plus Athena is my all time heroine! A philosophical, practical, brave, sexy, independant warrior goddess. The assertion that Sag’s are simply insenstive, party animals with no control of verbal nuance is completely untrue. How do we make and keep all our friends then? Because we are sensitive, perceptive, adventurous, and spiritual souls, who connect with diverse situations and people. That’s where the tales come from. Even if they may come out at inapproprioate times, it’s more from childlike enthusiasm,… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Yes, and they shit with abandon.

year of the fox
year of the fox

YESSS!

lee
lee

Yesyeyes, lovechild. I second everything you’ve said.

I’m another Sag here who has always felt connected to both owls and Athena.

Tones
Tones

Look, that is MM’s opinion and you need to deal with it. I have more planets in Sagg than Virgo, but I have to agree that when it comes to WISDOM Virgoans outstrip Saggitarians. Why are you whining about them ‘getting’ this animal anyway? You guys get the centaur, the coolest symbol of the whole zodiac as your PERSONAL TOTEM.

I’ve always thought owls have Capricorn juju- but that’s just my opinion.

Very Preggi Saggi!
Very Preggi Saggi!

Most peeps on blogs seem to be down on Saggi’s nowadays!!!! – luckily for us its like water off a ducks back! Just sour grapes about our abundance of FANTASTIC qualities….modesty being one of them of course (teehee!!) ….and great sense of humour obviously!!!! Lol ;P

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

I love Saggis but Sagg Moons do tend to sugarcoat things to a disconcerting level.

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

funny i always think mystic is way too flattering on them. And there are more posts on sagittarius then anyone else. I am not looking up native american thing as nothing tops me being lioness of the veuve cliquot clan

leogroover
leogroover

You are the queen LS . Lots about virgos too LS. i had to put up a flag to MM to pay attention to sooky Leos like myself in August and I was pleased with the pats and strokes we got. However it is never enuf altho I do recognize we can get very boring very quickly as opposed to scorps and aquas who I find fascinating.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Haven’t noticed any down on Sagg’s anywhere or am i too glib
to notice?
SOmetimes having so much Luck can piss a few peeps off.

SourPatch
SourPatch

Clearly you haven’t been around here very long…..LOL.

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

You missed the second line of the post where Mystic listed the Saggo high qualities.

Very Preggi Saggi!
Very Preggi Saggi!

Yes would have to agree with you…am a Saggi with Leo rising and have quite a collection of Owls – one of my fave symbolic creatures and am a massive book worm too (owls are quite bookish depicted as wise!) Don’t know if i would say I am a wise person just someone who is always open minded to expand her knowledge on any given subject. SAGGI”S RULE!!!!!!!!

Sagg girl (Moon in Cancer and Gemini asc)
Sagg girl (Moon in Cancer and Gemini asc)

Yes, I have always been very keen on owls – and I have seen them regularly in the wild. I do think they are very sagg. ps. Sagg-scorp girl, I’ve also been very keen on Greece too! We are so totally not the foot in mouth, loud party brigade.