Saturn Goes Down

Sci fi art man stands at foot of broken staircase

Michael Whelan

 

You guys know – don’t you? – that when Saturn is not all about being accountable, spreadsheets, flossing, 1000 crunches as opposed to Miracle Fat-Fuqer Lotion, realism et al that it is (a) Exalted in Libra and (b) a good chance to develop more civilised and amazing relationships.

Libra is THE sign of relationships. This is only a once in every 29 years transit. We may as well get wise in relationships. Yes?

We explored potential new Saturn in Libra Dating Paradigms here fifteen months go and now, voila, here we are.

So how are you doing with this?

My feeling is that – as always – Saturn does not reward L.O.A. behaviour in the lower sense: lower L.O.A. being blatting about behaving like a derbrain, chanting affirmations about how you always attract doting, hot and together lovers via your special ‘cosmic ordering’ system.

No-no-no. Saturn’s version of L.O.A. is more like you get every single relationship in your life healthy, vibrant, fair and transparent (like a healthy liver or a clean set of accounting books) before you vibe hi-qi, worthy and holistically cool enough for this relationship you apparently want.

You meanwhile avoid the insane, married, unavailable and addict lovers.

Yes this can be time consuming. No Saturn doesn’t care if it takes you a century to get laid again.

But seriously, everyone amazing i know is setting or re-setting their standards under Saturn In Libra. And loving it.

It’s probably a really good idea to sort all this sort of thing BEFORE Saturn in Scorpio. Heh heh.

So, thoughts? Standards? New love rules? How has Saturn in Libra since October 2009 changed your  love lives and attitudes?

 

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postmodscorp
postmodscorp

I’ve found other people are more challenged by my continueing happy singledom than I am. I’m using Saturn in Libra as my time of focusing on me and my career. And you know what? When I am happy in my career, and in myself, I am electric, and draw people to me. My LOA paradigm is set my intention, and then actively and positively work towards it. And my intention is to contribute to the world around me positively. Love, sex, other, are all expressions of my intention. My standards are what I aspire to, and I’m attracting others to… Read more »

piscesienne
piscesienne

Wow. As always, I’m struck by the wisdom in these comments. Everyone is SO smart – I’m pretty certain I’ve absorbed more learning here than I have in five years at university. Saturn in Libra has been a good thing. Ha, never thought I’d say that a year ago! But really, the past two and a half years of being celibate (confronting to read it written down!) has been the best thing for my psyche. I’d pretty much obliterated my own sense of self during a six year relationship with a guy who was just, well, completely un-evolved (Libran, multiple… Read more »

Gneiss Moon
Gneiss Moon

Was reading McKenna “Archaic Revival’ today and thought of this post. He mentions looking for the ‘other’ and the deep questioning of ‘are we alone?’
Seeking the asnswer is ‘propelling global culture toward an apocalyptic transformation.’ He envisions humans awakening to realize the vast workings of the universe via stone, plant, sky etc.. as an unlimited network of life. (book published 1991)
Considering recent astro, I tend to agree.

Gneiss Moon
Gneiss Moon

soz, obviously got my head buried in the books. I’m having a relationship with the universe ! 😀

roadhouse41
roadhouse41

I think my romantic life is over. It just took me a year to banish Mr. Holy Adultery from my life and given what happened there and my advancing age I think I’m going to die in spinsterhood.

The thing that bothers me about it is he won’t. He’ll just find the same thing to do to somebody else that he did to me. I hated talking to him, but i did it for months because I would otherwise be Alone with my Thoughts. They are not good thoughts. Drinking up a mini-tsunami over here. Not stopping. Not good.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Oh roadhouse darling, we are here for you, and listening…x

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Remember those ever so clever posts of yours. You have a way of intriguing others with your elusiveness.

And the Pall Malls…loved it..

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

Hey RH… I’m with SP… you’re not alone with your thoughts…. you’re courageously wading thru the muck of it all.

Relationship residue takes as long as it takes but it does clear.

If you die a spinster then you might find me grinning (brave assumption) and waving on the other side in the same processing queue above LOL … still better ‘n being with a fuqwit!

Mini-tsunami drinking… after washing myself out on that wave too many times I’ve decided dry land is preferable.

Take good care of you eh.

Andromeda
Andromeda

Dear roadhouse, sorry you are so down. Be strong, you are too sassy and brilliant. We love you here. Everything changes, sometimes when you least expect it. Just leave the door of your heart open a chink so change can get in, even though the wind may tear through it, it will be worth it..

leogroover
leogroover

‘So you may sleep together but there could be trust and communication issues. Like one person says ‘tomayto’ and the other one hears ‘parsnip.’ This post by MM was from 2 days ago and shazam this scenario is exactly what happened Even tho i vowed to stay away and process how i feel without seeing the Lusty last night, my mood changed and I thought life is too short. I felt gagged all night and even tho i could’ve said how i feel I didn’t. I know I’ve had a big reality check (thank you Saturn) but I’m in denial.… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

x

Stawr
Stawr

Yeah Saturn really doesn’t care if I ever get laid again. At this point I feel like no guy is worth a relationship. No guy is worth hooking up with…and no guy just wants to be friends. I’ve came very close to it two times…but then they make a douche-bag move…And then I’m thinking. FAIL. Next…Next!…I SAID NEXT! :/ I was so close to hooking up with this guy I had a crush on two years ago. But almost everyone wants him…So I was surprised when I found out he was into me. But at the bon fire yesterday…it was… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Well, YOU are the sure thing…I know what you mean…

Haven’t had a lay in over five years and quite frankly Scarlett, I don’t give a fuq…

Quite literally… lol

If it should come around again, fine. But I ain’t mixin’ my magic with just any hoodini…. 😆

year of the fox
year of the fox

Saturn in Libra sucks but it was better than Saturn in Virgo even though the only things I had in Virgo were my MC and Venus. How can I sum up Saturn in Libra? –No fun dates. No attractive mojo. No sex. I am the ugliest and angriest I have ever been in my life. Romantically this is the worst transit I’ve ever had except maybe when Saturn was on my natal Venus because then it was psychos, or maybe I can blame Neptune transit for that one. I’m not sure. Anyways can’t wait to be done with this. I… Read more »

applepieskies
applepieskies

Lolol I love this post, and the only consolation I can offer is that I’m going through the same RAWR STAY AWAY mindset with the absolute refusal to entertain any and all emotional immature ingrates. This Pisces rising absolutely refuses to “save” anyone and instead just flashes the evil eye. RAWR STAY AWAY RAWR.

applepieskies
applepieskies

emotionally*

Also, ever since Saturn hit my sun, the crows have been stalking me 😯 *cue x-files theme*

year of the fox
year of the fox

Exactly. Ingrates be damned!!!

It’s just really hard to meet people when I get like this. I think the other day some guy tried to get my attention in public by drawing me a picture on a piece of cardboard with his phone number on it. I just threw it back at him. A long time ago i would’ve thought that was charming and cute and interacted with him. If cupid is sending me a lover, he best be armour plated.

applepieskies
applepieskies

It’s that anger, I think. All the fools suffered in the past, so this big barrier goes up that just deflects all attention until that internal has built something different entirely and thus will not be subject to the same fools in the future. The method I’ve been applying is just forget about tangible love on this plane (Pisces rising must retain her fantasy lovers though!), and just work work work on yourself until it’s blown apart. Ugliest and angriest is the modus operandi right now, so ride the wave. Buy yourself a bird skull ring and wear it on… Read more »

year of the fox
year of the fox

Interesting you mention that! I actually do have a bird skull ring and bird skull hat…not real, mind you. I cast them in silver. Looks like i should be working on making a lionfish dress then if i am to wear my mood. I do tend to wear my emotions on my sleeve. 🙂 There is no way anyone could mistake me for “normal”. I’ve tried to look and act “normal” and it doesn’t work (when Saturn was transiting my 6th house). lol. I’m sure the peeps who bother me are masochists who crave a “challenge” or they want to… Read more »

applepieskies
applepieskies

Masochism can be fun but externalized masochism is just nauseating. Like, “don’t be so emotionally lazy and do the asphyxiation yourself. Deal with your birth trauma, don’t put it onto me.” Saturn just isn’t having it. I get a lot of that projection stuff too, my differentness you could say, comes out the moment we speak and people just want to possess it like anything else in the world. Now I just want to see their heads roll.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

POSSESS POSSESS GRAB.

Yes the first thing they say they love is your freedom of spirit and your independent soul.

And trying to cage it is the last thing they do. *slash slash fly off*

applepieskies
applepieskies

I don’t know, I mostly just get “weird” and “raw” lol.

But they do instantly fetishize it and start working on getting that hand around your throat. Apollo. He’s fascinated by the irrational but only because he wants to dominate it, unconsciously or not.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Better to be single and happily dancing than being in a soggy, sorry relationship. Better to be working on your own gig than resenting time spent for waiting the phone call that never comes. Better to be scheduling your time than checking your email every 5 minutes to see if he wrote

(Been there, done that all of the above)

year of the fox
year of the fox

It’s more like unhappily single with zero viable prospects vs. unhappily with f-tard who uses you, steals things/ideas/identity/dignity from you. At least unhappy and single is less complicated and less energy. That energy can be re-channeled into appropriate use like making me more $$$. Money isn’t love but I like pretending it is during this Saturn transit.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

You are doing your Saturn. I would have never believed it, but it happened for me when Saturn left Virgo, so there it is: at the end of the transit, everyone finds a little gift to celebrate the graduation.

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

Why can’t you be happily single? Maybe thats your Saturn Girl challenge?

year of the fox
year of the fox

I doubt it. I’m a Libra. A single Libra is a miserable Libra. We are designed to share almost to the point of detriment. Signs 7 through 12 (Libra-Pisces) are about our interactions with others. Even though I am satisfied with whatever I am doing in life, it’s always 10 million times better if i can share it with someone who cares. Is there actually anyone out there who thinks otherwise? And when things go wrong in life, it’s more bearable when there is someone to share that with too. Being by yourself sucks. But the only thing that sucks… Read more »

venus fly trap
venus fly trap

totally agree with everything you said and are going through. I have Saturn transhitiing my venus right now and it totally sucks!!! When it’s finally off my venus it will conjunct my 10th house sun, so maybe i get a brand new career out of it. LOATHE the industry I’m currently in and have been for most of my adult life. I want something new. Also agree with ‘A single Libra is a miserable Libra’. Im fiercely independent etc but my venus in Libra is the fly in the ointment. I yearn for a partner and to snuff that part… Read more »

shell
shell

Right, so does that mean we have to wait another 15 months for a tangible outcome?

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

i just took a good look at the picture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bright, i do not think mystic means 29 years of tears.

AquaMeg
AquaMeg

I’m having my “lovely” Saturn return time right now, and for two years felt I was bashing my head against a wall and getting nowhere … but finally am starting to see the light. Saturn also conjunct my Pluto and Mars (all in 5th house!), and grand air trines my Asc and Sun, so he’s been okay with me.

I’m looking forward to Saturn in Scorpio! That should be really sexy, powerful and deeeeep! 🙂

Bright
Bright

My dad died on August 29, 2009. I have been single for the last two years. Saturn really does not care if I ever have a relationship again. 27 more years of this? Tears.

year of the fox
year of the fox

🙁 I feel ya Bright. My dad died in 2008 followed by my grand mom 2009. And I have been single since 2008 with only 1 – date/relationshit-thing in 2010 and 2 – unrequited affection situations, that whole time. It’s not supposed to take 27 more years. Check where Saturn is making transits on your natal chart. Usually I find when there aren’t any planets in the house it is making transits to, there isn’t too much happening or the lessons seem easier.

Bright
Bright

Saturn is just, just, just about to move out of my fourth house and into my fifth, where Pluto hangs out. It’ll be okay, though, right? Eventually I’ll find a husband and happily ever after, right?

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Pisces says YES, BELIEVE!

chirochiq
chirochiq

have saturn shoulder 2day-so 1 finger typing and breif 🙂

WILL do raw vegan fast to quit puffing asap tom am!

got angry (nicely enuff…ok, little snarlier than acceptable mostly) pain lifted somewhat and bossy peeps focused and shut up for once

don’t want to do valium & brufen so the fags gotta go- rest all good, when not in scary retrograde mo

chirochiq
chirochiq

mars prog in 1st house discovered today – better add do daily hypno and zen med to am/pm rituals that i will do in place of fagging…

ArienScorp
ArienScorp

I think I’ve spent the last 15 months trying to get rid of my relationship with my Saggo friend, and yet he’s still here. Our unusual relationship is actually stronger than ever. There is so much about him I don’t want, and so much that is comfortable and positive. I think during the last 15 months I did set higher standards, no, I know I did. I starting vibing (LOA = vibing) for a higher frequency relationship. And as I became higher frequency, more in tune with what I wanted, he changed too. Even with our Saturn/Venus conjuction, I don’t… Read more »

mountaingirl
mountaingirl

what about if i am the one spoken for who is doing the chasing? feeling like the virgo energy is helping me morph into what saturn is calling for. feeling like I am letting go of lust interest who is too morally strong to take me up on my offer despite his desire to. Have returned euphemistically to the one I already have (for hmm… 20 odd years) and trying to make it work despite still feeling like maybe it is time karmically/soul wise to move on. Can’t work it out and because Saturn is currently in my 5th house… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Saturn goes down..

Should he not be prepared? 😆 😆

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Ha haaa..

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

LOL! Down will try its best to raise to the standards of being up once Saturn goes down 🙂

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

rise not raise. Obviously for the remainder of the day, I should read a dictionary 🙂

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Lol

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

That dirty old bastard! 😯

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Absolutely , like never before. You know your shit, MM, you truly do! Have been noting new inspirations in the last 24hrs about compatability and sloughing off old stains of misguided fantasies… Changing playlists and rewriting the score for a more powerful and genuinely bullshitproof performance in next relationship. Saturn just left my 7th house , but its through working out my 1st and 2nd that I’m finally getting acquainted with the 7th and 8th . When Saturn was in virgo it opposed my pisces ascendent and revealed some of those self- sacrificing, martyring and dellusionally OTT talents that I… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

lol re the appreciation from making a diff not natural charm 😆

u so wise methinks

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Thank you 🙂

chirochiq
chirochiq

go you, yes, making the difference = joie de vivre

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Saturn now tromping in my 7th, am also more and more in touch with my aging parents.

I remember once reading that in 7th house, Saturn means clarification of relations with the elderly. In my experience, once I got on the right track with parents or parental figures, other relationships sorted themselves out.

Pisces ASC is a pro when it comes to delusions in personal relationships 🙂 I crank up Saturn when yearning for a fuq-wit pops in my mind – Neptune, off you go I say.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

“yearning for a fuq-wit” !!!!

*sways with laughter*

Wish i could sew; would embroider it onto a cushion for a friend.

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

” yearning for a fuq-wit” lol… come on babe, let’s get out of it together and one of us will need rescuing again…doh!

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Cheeky twinnie! …sounds gloriously crazed…

oh and can u embroider?

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

This Pisces ASC has been fish out of water when it comes to fuq-wits messing with heart and head.

Just last week I was swindled 🙂 At the end of the day, I chalked it to experience.

year of the fox
year of the fox

I actually liked Saturn in my 7th but it was conjunct my Natal Saturn there. I found a true love then…or what i thought was my true love. :/ It was good times while it lasted.

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯

“Saturn goes down” Oh yeahhh!

😯

😯

Oh wait… wrong transit… & not to mention ruuuudee!

Actually Saturn is very close to natal Pluto in Libra…

*gulp*

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

“Saturn goes down”- *snigger*

“You meanwhile avoid the insane, married, unavailable and addict lovers”
*Looks at list*
*realises she needs a new list*

FireyBovine
FireyBovine

lol

i know – i got that pluto libra thing too coming right up – i do wonder – and then it busts a move on my moon – heee

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

eeewww… i have to admit i thought that too but pushed it away cos in my mind Saturn is an old man with a long beard, which is grotty in the extreme to me

shell
shell

Had saturn Pluto thing recently. No big deal compared to all the personal/outer planet shite I’ve had going on over the last few years would be my assessment.
I guess it’s all context specific though.

FireyBovine
FireyBovine

hell, has it been That long already? It has done wonders … and the timing of this is special: exactly one year ago I was a gutted woman after severing a massive tie to someone I had convinced myself was The One. I was a vague participant in a festival. There is a photo. I look beyond sad. A year on. Same festival, am in a project manager role. So ridiculously energetic and happy. There is another man. Far too complex to pinpoint what we are exactly. Yet Our Tie is flexible and durable. Flawed but there nurture in that… Read more »

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Agree wholeheartedly re the value of a year in a lifetime , or many lives perhaps, FB. Time is what we make of it. And a few moments or a few years of silence between people can be just as lovely and meaningful as the talking ones.
Good on you for flexible and durable. Sounds hot and wholesome. 😉

FireyBovine
FireyBovine

hehe I meant to say, after all that, that there is no denying how often I just want to grab him and say, ‘can we just get our fuqin shit together and jump back into bed again’ (random occasionals – think i recently missed one of his cues to do just that recently but i was too slow, protective, doubting it passed me by – frustrating!!!) ahme. saturn in where?

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Lol.

chirochiq
chirochiq

flexible is happy trust i think, a discipline too

FireyBovine
FireyBovine

a happy trust discipline – LIKE
…. am on an idealism jag but, figure – whilst it lasts … and whilst you’re feeling it ….

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

I will copy, paste “What is a mere year if the intention is something that goes beyond lifetimes? – FireyBovine” and send myself as an email. There will be a time, when I read my email-journal, I will nod and bow once again.

FireyBovine
FireyBovine

oh. am really touched that it resonates for you too xxx

Charley
Charley

It’s taken me 30 years and one Saturn transit plus a ton of other stuff going on in the 7th house and to do with Venus for me to *get it* and I really think it was only last week that I realised how massively low L.O.A I’ve been over the past few years (lifetime). Like really bad. You would think that having Saturn in Libra I’d be slightly more prepared but it’s really badly aspected so maybe that’s why it’s taken me until last week to really see how amazingly talented I am at seeking out the most damaged,… Read more »

andromeda
andromeda

Full on Charley! Wouldn’t it be easier if they better come gift wrapped with price and description of contents?! But I guess the thing about us all is that we are sometimes different for different people! Good luck.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Actually, have you ever thought that you are fine? So fine, in fact, that in fact the damaged goods hone in on YOU, because they need your compassion and love? Of course they come looking normal. How else are they going to get you? Things have changed in your other relationships, Charley, and things will evolve here too. Your realisations might have shaken you to the core but you just can’t go backwards after having these awakenings. Crazy people are out there! We all meet them at some point. It may mean nothing other than that those people are off-the-hook… Read more »

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

There will also be a time (another Saturn 7th trans(h)itter here), I would like to think we will feel this odd friendship to ourselves when we picked the most damaged people from streets as other people pick up homeless kittens.

chirochiq
chirochiq

itz ok to tell youself that you are totally humanely beautiful, and sound,and perfect enough, and really believe it…strike out against any olde norms i reckon spec the negatives

Charley
Charley

Oh guys, thanks. You all make such good points (as usual) I think I’ve been round in circles thinking it must be coincidence or bad luck but perhaps it really is just me? I just don’t know anymore. It’s just scary when you think you’re making progress but then a pattern is repeated so absurdly it makes you go OH, fuck!! Funnily enough about 20 minutes after writing that I saw the root of most of my problems for the first time in a while, a Mercury retro swan song? Hope so.

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

Progress IS seeing the pattern Charley!! Yeah.. ‘course..doesn’t necessarily mean it stops right there.. it doesn’t but it’s an intricate road map into the self which by default will bring you out someplace new. Bad choices are gifts in disguise. I know from personal experience across a selection of various flavours… think a box of Cadbury Favourites… huh?… never really dug that many of those and wondered who on earth decided these were the faves for all of us?! I wonder sometimes if it’s our higher self bringing us appropriate teachers to assist us on our personal growth journey….. obviously… Read more »

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

I did mean ‘head on’… and had to clarify otherwise that’d look totally weird and even a bit fuq’d. Ooops!

Charley
Charley

Such a good way to look at it and so, so right thank you, thank you. I swear you lot have saved me so many $$ in therapy bills!! xxx

misslibrakismet
misslibrakismet

AHHH contemplating what to do with Virgo meanie. Was feeling ridiculously sad on Wednesday (super stuck in a rut), gave him a call at 1am when he was all groggy. He didn’t say much and I was thinking that I’m really and truly done with him. Thursday afternoon, I’m too nervous to go to the office and actually sit in a cafe, madly working, mournfully looking out the setting sun, feeling terribly vulnerable and cold. And then he drops a text, apologizing for sleepiness and then a beautiful conversation about souls, cultural capital, freedom ensues. For all his horrible daily… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Maybe you just aren’t ready to make a decision yet and that’s okay.

Have fun, be observent about your feelings and thoughts in the moment and what you suss from him.

“She’s got a ticket to ride”…The Beatles…and it’s your ticket…x

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Isn’t that funny? So glad you posted this MM, i just had an astro-moment. So, I’m Venus in Aqua, and i needn’t go into the significance of that here i’m sure. I’m also Piscean so falling head over heels is like breathing. And the multi Sag thing- adventure yah adventure up for anything. But trining Venus in Aqua is Uranus in Libra. And guess who’s scraping away in that part of the chart, flaying everything to the bare bones? This coincides with a sudden and dramatic STOP of even finding anyone vaguely attractive while i dig dig dig at my… Read more »

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

No, Mill, you don’t . RECEIVING is just as wonderful a gift as giving. Hope you get some soon , sans the criminal/ alien elements 😉

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Thanks, twinnie! I rather hope i don’t get any til i’m ready. I had been with men without a break for over twenty years, and my soul needs peace for a mo.

Bright
Bright

Hola, can we compare charts? I’m a Pisces with Venus in Aquarius with multi-Sagg in Uranus and Saturn.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Hello Bright! Goodness i cannot imagine Uranus and Saturn in Sag. Traditionally, U and S hate each other’s guts, and here they are duking it out in the frankest sign. I’ll bet noone EVER guesses your sun sign. Uranus is in Libra for me… i think Uranus/Venus are in mutual reception in my chart, though i’m not certain what it means. I certainly like all those i meet, with a hail-fellow-well-met evenness, but others think my lovelife is quirky and shocking. I can honestly say this makes others appear smallminded to me. Bright, do i recall u work in health?… Read more »

Bright
Bright

I’m actually a nanny! Which also needs the grounded practical support, depending on the day 😉 I definitely do not look for appreciation for what I do, although it is appreciated when I receive it. Both Saturn and Uranus are in my sixth house, within 20 degrees of one another. You would think that people wouldn’t be able to guess my sign but I have a Cancer rising, which means I’m this fluttering little thing most of the time, unless I need to have my two feet on the ground, and that’s when I can tap into the strength from… Read more »

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

What a timely post Mystic.

Saturn has been a great teacher since 2008: Crossed DSC, crushed natal Pluto, squared natal Sun, now sitting on top of Uranus and opposing Chiron, will square my Cap Moon soon until Oct 2012.

Dignity and self-respect in relationships is what I had learned. For this Pisces rising, the biggest lesson has been the best way to handle emotional relations is professionalism. Sounds sad, but prevents a lot of troubles and head/heart aches.

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

That is interesting Quadrupled. I also have Pisces rising and find boundaries are even harder with intimates so an objective stance is vital to keeping a grip.
This grip can always be relessed again when the time is just right 😉

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

twinfishrising, at one point I noticed PISCES sign has two fish in two different directions. If I am correct, one is about emotions, the other is rationality.

A Pisces I met embodies rationality and professionalism when it comes to dealing with difficult people. I watched and learned a lot when not to give in emotional reactions.

It is even fun that I now don’t kneel over and whimper when someone speaks to diss me (victim mentality), but I calmly turn around and ask the person to clarify. I learned to cuss and/or laugh when I am alone.

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Yeah. And jupiter is th 2nd ruler of pisces so when u get past the weird intense emotion and hit that one objective positive mental note, and u have a laugh, it breaks that neptunian spell that can otherwise tumble you around underwater for days or years, and drag others under too if you let it. Not pretty. Still plucking seaweed out of my locks.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Channeling Neptune to creative parts of life, leaving Saturn to sort of relations and self-worth, putting Jupiter in charge of capturing the “really really BIG picture” and telling Pluto never giving up on evolving.

My Sun checking out natal chart finally figured out how to keep these heavy-hitters busy. An idle planet eventually bites me on my behind.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Oh i LOVE your stable of planet-workers!

I wonder what to do when some are conjunct? Nept/Moon/Jupes conjunct for me. I liked the idea of telling Neptune to stick to certain tasks but try to contain water. Or moonlight. Or Zeus.

Look at those three! Hmmm. They operate beautifully together to be frank…o the things u see! They’re in 12th but conjunct Asc. The best way to hide is to be what you really are, right in front of people.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

My natal is like a cluster of chewing gum, Nept/Jup (both retro and chart rulers) conjunct oppose Saturn/Venus conjunction, both of which are loosely conjunct Mercury. I could sort out by treating conjunctions like blender.

Here is the case for me:

Neptune makes a dreamy Jupiter, ready to spring to grab inner life, which amplifies the creativity expressed by writing (both retro, oppose Mercury).

Saturn throws buckets of ice cold water on all, telling them to get a grip and toil if they (Nept/Jup/Merc) soooo like their ideas. So, I grab paper, pencil and start chewing.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Got an image of GIANT classical Greek Zeus statue, with a small human-sized lady standing in front of him, finger up, saying, “Now chew!” And the giant alabaster figure is chewing!

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

LOL! The image is priceless, finger pointing straight “Now chew!” 🙂

chirochiq
chirochiq

yes, quadupled, prof, like u say, its not over till etc, easy said, i’m about to learn all about it-both have prog mars and uranus trans in first, oh heck, it’s gonna be a wild fun-ride of surprising maturity, niceness and random acts of kindness right?

chirochiq
chirochiq

😉

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

😉 on the right track

Libra with planets in Scorp
Libra with planets in Scorp

I got over several stupid not right relationships with a Leo and Scorpio, then met my just-right Cancer in November 2009 – we got married in July!

Charley
Charley

Yay, happy story, congrats!

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

🙂 Congratulations

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Ohh, the gifts of Saturn, congratulations!

Libra with planets in Scorp
Libra with planets in Scorp

Thanks everyone. 🙂

chirochiq
chirochiq

Awesome 😉

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

The Moon goes dark and Saturn goes Down….

Jiminey crikes, I’m holeing up for the weekend..

Good advise as usual Mysitc. x

toomuchgoingon
toomuchgoingon

Bad marriage finally seen for what it is and well understood, no movement (but lots of soul growth) atop of confusing karmic tie, throwing lust, guilt and strong intense love emotions into the mix. No sex and overwhelming feeling of wanting to run away. Desperate for a resolution!

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

you are ME a few years ago. Guess what? it is better to resolve it yourself then wait about and let something else resolve it for you. i know this from doing it the longer way around.

things better than flakey lovers: children, beautiful hair, good friends, sunny days, orgasms, chocolate, companion animals, champagne, running on the beach.

in no particular order

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

totally adding that ‘flakey men’ advice to my list of Good Advice. thanks TLS.

8th House
8th House

Hello TMGO,
each and every word – same here!

8th House
8th House

Care to compare charts? 🙂

toomuchgoingon
toomuchgoingon

Sure – triple aries, leo rising, gemini moon.

8th House
8th House

0 deg. Cancer sun (one of the Zap zone people), Scorp rising, Gemini Moon/Venus.

You’ve got a cardinal sun as well, plus the same Moon. Basically the Zap zone thing.

toomuchgoingon
toomuchgoingon

The karmic tie has a classic saturn neptune conjunction/8th house in synastry with my chart. I’ve figured he is here for me to move into my power/leave my marriage. Too much danger involved in a liaison, more’s the pity!

8th House
8th House

Funny, I’m coming to the same conclusion, that it’s my “task”. Lots of aspects indicating that relationships are difficult for me, to put it mildly. This is the thing I gotta do to overcome that.

Also, a ton of 8th house business here (my 3 personal planets, his 2, both including sun), and his Neptune opposite my Mars. Confusion about the guy? Hmmm.

What kind of danger for you?

toomuchgoingon
toomuchgoingon

A super strong frisson, our karma from a past life, feels so dangerous between us, but that’s part of the attraction.

Triple Air Gem
Triple Air Gem

yes, perfectly timed post! I’m with you both UP & Seabird.. This week, relinquished the mad yearning for inappropriate Pisces with Jekyll and Hyde complex. Just let it go… after 6yrs on and off, “together – not together” crap. Phew! Easily let it go… so nice! Ignoring advances from inappropriate flake #2 who I met on weekend via mutual friends. He flies to my city three days after meeting me (we hung out for two hours) and wants to “stay over”… um?? Inappropriate flake #3 who is a pretty famous artist type – I randomly collaborated on his installation with… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

wow! flake magnet. well done on the instant dismissal 🙂 and yes fuq drama, to much brain damage.

can’t say i am being very good on the health / yogi things (decent challenging yoga classes seem to cost a FORTUNE in sydney wtf)
but is good motivation to see others doing so. baby steps for UP I say, I have to let the health sneak up on me. Otherwise the rule-o-phobic in me freaks out and has to rebel on the New Regime 😀

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

try yoga journal online videos. I too don’t have any chance to attend yoga classes, but I found online sources and a couple of free yoga applications I got for iPhone very helpful. Nothing out of ordinary in poses, but it disciplined my dedication to honoring what I like to do.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

didnt think of that, thanks quads

Triple Air Gem
Triple Air Gem

You can do it U.P. I know what you mean about Sydney being OTT for prices tho… I’m there a bit with work and stopped going to classes there partly coz of the prices… partly coz I got lazy 🙂 heehee

thanks for the tips about online yoga quads… I asked the universe to provide that answer just this week! love the synchronicity.
can I ask which iPhone aps you got that are good? I had one but it was so crap I didn’t ever use it…

piscesienne
piscesienne

You and me both, UP! Saturn in Libra has been great for sort out relationship crap (both with myself, with others, with men) and general admin type stuff … but health? Comes and goes in waves and you totally hit the nail on the head: as soon as I prescribe ‘rules’ for myself about what I can/can’t eat, my inner ‘fuq you I won’t do what you tell me’ comes out and totally obliterates the new regime by hitting the caffeine hard and consuming all manner of carbs. Thanks for giving me a light-bulb moment!

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

yes took me a while to realise too. I learnt to tell myself “ok brain, you know the right decision to make about [healthy eating / exercise] so now it’s over to you” – or something like that. 🙂

Bull with sting in tail
Bull with sting in tail

Noooooooooooooo

Even astronomers have found a new Diamond in the rough

Find sumbody else to bite

That is all.

andromeda
andromeda
unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

yeah, how cool is that?? “Baby, If you really loved me… ”

(to quote the SMH cartoon)

Seabird
Seabird

Yep, Saturn doesn’t care if I never get laid again, I know. I’m living the above. We’re coming on for two years…. BUT! on a brighter note, lord how my relationship with myself has changed! And I never need to have another crap relationship ever again! And if I EVER EVER do get to have another relationship EVER on this astral plane, it won’t be with an idiot, with a married man, with someone who just likes my bod, with a disfunctional drug addict, or with someone who has not got their own relationship with money/their ex/their grown son/their family… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

you’ve just described my own resolutions SB. And yes, it may well be a century before I end up in bed with someone again *bites knuckes*

numoon
numoon

Here here, see it is not that bad, really. You become so more YOU when you are not hanging around looking at your missed calls, re-loading the google-stalking or smelling old books for faint traces of someone you once knew… It will be ok. The sun will still light up your path, the moon will still watch over your days.

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

numoon, i just wrote that thing about the sun and moon and put it on my fridge door.

everyone, YES! I do not know my neptune-saturn thing but i have BANNED myself from google stalking and more than a “productive fantasy” if you know what i mean.

ie; wanking. But not confusing my idle pleasurings re men i think are hot with my actual official love life. WHICH if mystic or saturn are right means zero action if i rule out the ones who are mad, married and whatever the rest was.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

Yes: knowing the difference is KEY. by crikey you make me laught tls

chirochiq
chirochiq

same…prob another 20,000 years, when i stop having neptune transits…might get a cat and a dog for new family instead

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Wow, get out of my head Seabird. I read your post, then re-read, walked around, came back, opened the browser, re-read, and thought:

I should sign every word of your post. 2 years, tick, relationships with all sorts of clowns: self-obsessed, married, addict: tick, tick, tick… 🙂

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

Sigh…yeah I know what you mean Seabird.. too long between drinks so to speak and the prospects have been odd (insert any of your descriptions and more) or ex like and I’m not doing either and I’m well past the point of a random fuq for the sake of that! The bit in your post that got me… and I was scrolling down to post when I read yours… is your relationship with yourself. Exactly! I’m assuming this transit affects that as that affects all else and is the most important consideration. When we’re aligned with ourselves then it (should)… Read more »

Seabird
Seabird

Oh BeJeezus – at least it’s nice to know I’m not alone. Two years ago, just as I entered my celibate stage, I happened upon the last interview ever given by Mae West. It was given to a Harpers & Queen (I think) female interviewer, who had interviewed Mae on and off for years. Mae was in her 80’s, the interviewer was in her 60’s. Somewhere in the interview – and I’m paraphrasing – Mae said something like – ‘You do realise that I wrote and directed all those films – that I knew what I was doing? And yet,… Read more »

Gneiss Moon
Gneiss Moon

Hooray ! Great story, thanks Seabird ! I agree, I have the evenings to study and write and no one to boss me or complain…is *bliss*….

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

oo, this post couldn’t be better timed. I wanted to say that last night, I suddenly got over my long-standing and intense inappropriate crush on the Outdoorsy Multi-Scorp. It was just like that. I was doing my usual web-stalking and stopped, said to myself “UP – you are being ridiculous. He is in a LTR with a PNMFOG (Perfectly Nice Mega Fit Outdoorsy Girl) who is no doubt more compatible with him than you are. Aren’t you sick of this shit? Put a stop to it now.” So I decided to get over it and I even said ‘ok, this… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

This piscean also used to have crushes on all and sundry, plus the actual dalliances and relationships. Isn’t that funny? I missed the daydream fodder at first and thought i had somehow gotten my psyche damaged.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

daydream fodder, exactly. it’s no fun to not be able to think of anyone who makes you feel all nice n tingly. yes tis a v flat feeling. good to know i am not alone! x

chirochiq
chirochiq

yes i did this too – my neptune ness…not done for years tho, a good thing for me i think, real life is better(?) not really i suppose…at least i think i’m glad i’ve stopped this, better for me to stay real bout such things. we all need some fantasy tho, life’s ‘too’ real some days

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

actually, I just realised that I lied. I still have a long-distance fascination with the (single) Beautiful, Intelligent, Cool, Multi-talented Outdoorsy Pisces Guy. Ah…all is well in my loving world 😀

chirochiq
chirochiq

write bodice-rippers for fun? 😉

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

is that a suggestion? I might you know. Now that Barbara Taylor Bradford’s moved on, someone needs to fill her shoes in a 21st-century kinda way sans Twilight-style disempowerment

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