D.I.Y. Astro: The Science Of Saturn

Avant Garde art archer and fire breatherAletheia – The State Of Not Being Hidden – Andreco & Allegra Corbo

The house where you have Saturn lurking is traditionally supposed to be your weakest area, land of your phobias, blind spots, Achilles Heels and general low performance.

The joke is that one person’s Saturn-freak-out may be a non-issue or even incomprehensible to another.

eg; Saturn in the 2nd House fears poverty, in the 6th House can be a hypochondriac, be crippled by shyness if in the 1st and so on.

If you drill-down into someone’s Saturn area, you’ll hit on some highly sensitive nerves and score psychological paydirt.

The idea is to buff up your Saturn area until it becomes your shining joy. It takes time, work and an unpleasant degree of self-scrutiny but it can be your greatest triumph.

BUT what about taking your Saturn right now and just making out that it’s your greatest asset, that you are just AMAZING in that regard. See how it feels? It would be an interesting experiment, yes?

So: Find the House your Saturn is in, other peeps on the D.I.Y. Astro posts are always helpful & then turn that perceived flaw or sub-par performance into a sensational affirmation/statement of greatness.

If you go to the Houses category in the Category menu, there is heaps of into on each House btw.

Some more (short-form) examples. Saturn in 8th = sexual hang-ups, Saturn in 9th = baggage re not being ‘educated’ enough, Saturn in 10th fears being perceived as a failure.  Saturn in 11th can be overconscious re judgement of The Tribe.

identity your Saturn shit and then pretend it’s your best thing going on!

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andromeda
andromeda

Worried about if they are fun enuff for lovers and friends, if their kids are good enough and if their creative endeavours are acceptable? But apparently their creative endeavours frequently flourish under Saturn’s watchful eye.. 😉

andromeda
andromeda

Oops, that was Saturn in the 5th for Lesly!

Lesly
Lesly

Thank you so much, darling! Certainly makes sense. I’ve heard saturn rx can make for a guilt complex too, le sigh.

Ms.
Ms.

Re saturn 3rd house -really spooky! Had a very intimate conversation about communication that totally blew my mind. supercrab sun/merc/venus conjunct 3rd houser explaining to me that he gets my communication even though I don’t use english properly cause of my synethesia/autism thing I have with picture and sound and how my self taught thing would have to be cause it doesn’t stand in formal ed. My whole MO i guess is that when people talk i see colourful pictures and language does often localise as does the meaning of symbols to others so I always try to bespoke on… Read more »

Lesly
Lesly

Saturn rx in 5th — help anyone? Thank you, lovelies!

AAC aries,aquarius,cappomoon
AAC aries,aquarius,cappomoon

4th house. Helloooo parent issues. I have 5 of em. I support them emotionally for the most part. But my dad (second one) has become extremely supportive in the last 5 years. I have an understanding of the functioning of family that is extreme, to the point of all and sundry getting advice. The strength? INDEPENDENCE! I am sooo independent. YAY! Unfortunately in relationships of the past (and friendships) this has meant I have become a co-dependent of other peoples emo problems. VOM. So My big thing now is finding friends who support me and who don’t dump and I… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

I second that! 😛 I HATE peeps who like to SHIT on other people’s AWESOMENESS!

gpsyromeo
gpsyromeo

Saturn in Cancer in 1st house conjuct Mars in Cancer in 1st house.

Now my childhood makes sense!

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

So warez awl teh sattan forth houzerz?

REFUSING TO BE DRAGGED DOWN BY FAMILY OF ORIGIN. Making your own peaceful home and taking about forty years to get there.

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

They’re all in hiding! Shut ins??

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

It took me about 8 hours to truly GET that gag. Typical saturnine joke, it improves with age. And only Capricorns can get away with saturn jokes.

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Witness protection program?

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

Yes and a rubber room.

Ms.
Ms.

😀

jac
jac

Also ,my sun sign GEMINI with VIRGO rising….Ok ….really need to know all about my weakest area !!!

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Virgo Rising with 5th house Saturn – intense self-criticism about your creative output / art / flower garden / baked goods…? Anything you MAKE to share with others gets a Saturn hyper-reality-check and OTT self-analysis…?

jac
jac

Thanks Lexicorn, I am in the creative business & am extremely self critical about myself & everything I do. My life is based around design…so, should I stop the criticising and just beleive what I do is good ????

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

Yes and have more fun.

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Sing it Sister.
YES

jac
jac

Thanks Lexicorn & U V,
This is so interesting. I have always know I am a very critical person , but never realised that that was my weakest point !!!ok ,I will start working on it…my new sensational affirmation..I am an awsome designer !!

Ms.
Ms.

🙂 beautiful

jac
jac

Saturn 29 Cap & Jupiter 6 Aqu in the 5th House…..can someone explain what this means to me ??

bun
bun

Saturn in virgo in the second. I remember expressing a worry years ago that this would be a very difficult placement for finances, and was told by my Aunt that the 2nd house is about the things you value, and that having saturn there means you take very seriously the things you value. Mind you, I would rather eat my own head than have a joint bank account.

Phoenix riser
Phoenix riser

Haha. Joint bank account. You’ve got to be kidding me *SHUDDER*
Saturn in Aqua in 2nd here. It’s a bit of an understatement to say that freedom (moon Saggo) and financial independence has always been very important in my life. Throw Cap rising & 10th house Sun and, well… you get the picture 🙂

VirgoTigress
VirgoTigress

Loving Saturn in the 12th? from my experience – embrace the depression and DO NOT try and handle it on your own – mine the gold of it with therapy, myth-making, Jung, reading great literature. Face the stupid fears – go to the dentist, do the tax, whatever fears you hold on not so much because they are so terrible in themselves but because what would happen if you let them go? Imagine Saturn as a lovely safe little boat (which has no leaks)) which will keep you safe in the mysterious, wonderful sea that is the 12th. Its gift?… Read more »

Bluesky
Bluesky

nice description of Saturn as water-tight, safe boat.

Maureen
Maureen

My Saturn is in the 10th house, conjunct both Moon and Pluto. maybe these three planets are softened by a sextile from Sag Asc and neptune (both conjunct)..what do u think?

Odette-in-Libra
Odette-in-Libra

Saturn in the 10th. You can imagine how much fun that’s been while unemployed in the middle of a recession. (Sigh.)

Phoenix riser
Phoenix riser

Ouch!!

Odette-in-Libra
Odette-in-Libra

Thanks, Phoenix.

I saw this post today: “What does not kill me may nonetheless maim me.”
(I’d rather take your example though, & rise up out of the ashes, new and strong. Saturn – do your stuff!)

Nene
Nene

I’m Scorpio Sun with Virgo Moon with Saturn in my 5th house… Needless to say, I’ve had my share of relationship issues… Not just romantically but also with my children… My relationships with my children are loving and healthy now but I still feel like I’m missing the boat with my significant other… He’s Taurus Sun with Sag Moon with Saturn in his 9th house… We work but not always and I feel like we are definitely at a crossroads… Wonder what we will look like as a couple on the other side of the upcoming retrograde?

Stawr
Stawr

I have Saturn in the 9th house. (In Capricorn) I do have certain learning issues. And there are certain things that I didn’t learn in school. I will admit school…espeasialy middle school and highschool where a struggle for me. I don’t speak a different language fluently. I learned nothing when I took 11th grade Spanish. The teacher had very little control over the class. I feel like it was more about doing whatever it took to pass instead of learning. (I would cheat on hw and tests all the time in that class) I just don’t learn good when a… Read more »

Louella
Louella

I have both Saturn and Jupiter ¡n house 11… correct me if I’m wrong but does this mean groups of people/community/the “tribe” is my biggest source of anxiety and my biggest asset?

And I don’t even want to think about the fact I have nothing in house 5 or 7 (well, Chiron…).

Beatrice
Beatrice

Saturn conjunct moon in 5th house Kataka. Never been brave enough to fall in love. Love, flirting ect. perplex me – even at 36.

maria
maria

I have got saturn in my 9th house retrograde What does it all mean????

atreyu
atreyu

What about Saturn on 12th house? help me out! scares me a bit…(for real).

davidl
davidl

Maybe your big lessons are quite internal, hidden, not obvious to others. That can be tough.

atreyu
atreyu

thank you! I think you are pretty accurate.

Mystic's Scorpio Intern
Mystic's Scorpio Intern

dream analysis, meditation, art

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

perfect, thanks!!

ATM dreams revealing underlying fears (neurosis lol) ….
creativity & reflection / meditation in hand – thank you!! xox

Bluesky
Bluesky

It’s organizing one’s thoughts and eradicating bad habitual thinking (bad habits) It’s maintaining focus and going in one direction in an organized way (in one’s head so as to manifest externally).

It’s also learning over lifetime to emulate saturn externally and not be afraid to “look” like a Saturn person because you’d hate for people to actually see you looking like that;)

atreyu
atreyu

thanks everybody…you are extremly wise and accurate 🙂

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

EXCLNT Bluesky – have actively grokked ‘time to go’ crap thought processes & implemented organised ways forward – in the flow there – whip whippy yi yay :)!!

along with impossible to avoid dream interps, is no wonder am closeted vs social butterfly ATM

reckon have learned to love being Saturn’s bitch lol!!
even have Le Ram purring like a lamb …. 😉

Liz
Liz

20 deg Aquarius here. Definitely agree with the interpretations! I believe, at its core, it can show a conflict between need to master the demons within but don’t for fear others will find out about them.

Liz
Liz

20 deg Aquarius 12th house =I

nancyx
nancyx

Saturn in 6th house, but definitely not a hypochondriac! I am hardly ever sick – is that me already buffing my saturn to a shining joy? 6th house also related to work, right? My 6th house is in a fire sign, and I am VERY restless when it comes to jobs; any longer than a year in one role and I get bored and irritable. Working 2 rubbish jobs as well as playing in an active band is the norm for me, so I am usually exhausted. I guess that’s the health thing right there. Saturn is also conjunct my… Read more »

saturnian
saturnian

And the artwork on this post is fabulous MM!

whatevs
whatevs

10th house – I got my first job when I was 7! When I was a child I’d go round the neighbourhood asking for work so I could do things with the $. I grasped early on that to get the $ to do the stuff you want to do a job makes it possible faster. I was always really determined as a child when I wanted to do or buy things. Go saturn. I have a strong work ethic and I never give up when it comes to work I’ve made a commitment to – it’s making the commitment… Read more »

saturnian
saturnian

Saturn would just love being in the 10th House – its comfort zone!

Capfire
Capfire

Same here, 10th conjunct MC in Cap. I started to work in nappies and have not stopped. I tend to stick with jobs when most would move on.

whatevs
whatevs

wow i think that means your saturn is in dignity doesn’t it? does anyone know if it’s in its own sign is that called in dignity? Or is that exalted? That seems ideal – I have stickability to large individual projects but not long-term roles. Uranus conjunct sun upsets the apple cart when it comes to long term ongoing full time things.

Ms.
Ms.

enterprising young whatevs 🙂

whatevs
whatevs

yeah it’s kinda nerdy looking back – strangely for an entrepeneurial type i have nothing in capricorn

Jennifer
Jennifer

Another 10th house. I have issues dealing with the fact that I feel called to do more creative work… the sort that (a) would require starting my own business, which I do not want to do and don’t have aptitude for anyway, nor do I have a suitable partner to do the dirty for me, and (b) would mean I can never have health insurance or a regular paycheck again. That makes my Saturn FREAK OUT SCREAMING.

virgo rising
virgo rising

My 10th house Saturn, also conjunct my MH has been a driving force, aspirational, giving me an intense sense of purpose…and the need to succeed at my chosen task…It has also given me an ability to be self motivated and disciplined when need be….I am also a great slacker and know well how to procrastinate…

whatevs
whatevs

have you got some planets in libra? Libra is awesome at slacking when it wants to.

whatevs
whatevs

why can’t you have health insurance as a self- employed person? do you live in the USA? It seems unusual to discourage the growth of small businesses by preventing self-employed people from accessing/purchasing insurance. If you’re not good at the details finding a good accountant and those kinds of peeps is the way to deal with the stuff you can’t do yourself. You can’t be good at everything. It’s good if you’re creative and self-employed to have a small bread and butter job that’s ongoing – with saturn in the 10th I’m sure you could work out how to make… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

I was going to type “i’ve been thinking a lot about this” but then I realise the irony 3rd house saturn (jupiter/lilith) virgo well I have been thinking a lot about this saturn placement. Expression not quite so because I am such a 5th houser but verbally yes. Very intellectual father looked down on us for not being genius’s. I did actually welcome his strict love of intellect I just wish he wasn’t such a cock about it. School was shit on every level, I taught myself most things I know despite a great love of learning. My mother sent… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

i am very fond of your voice you’re polishing up well x

Ms.
Ms.

aw. ty. I am still fascinated by the relationship to the 3rd house. I am guess being gem rising its kind of important too yes? It’s got so many manifestations though right from strict values with social etiquette down to over thinking absolutely everything that I have to do rituals in my mind to break patterns when they start to own me.

whatevs
whatevs

OMG MS I’m listening to that link to TED – I just had a flashback to primary school and realised the exact moment when an aspect of my creativity was snuffed out by a teacher – I’ve lived in fear of that thing ever since. WOW. Thank you for sharing the link babe (apart from the fact it’s interesting because I want to teach the kind of kids who cannot be taught) I’m gobsmacked by the emotions that have just been brought up by that revelation. Strangely enough a few weeks ago I decided I needed to fix this thing… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

I love this talk so much because it speaks to that in us all. everyone has a personal response to that and i love love love watching people respond with their stories. It’s like he’s giving everyone permission to listen to their inner voice and liberate themselves from convention. Beautiful.

whatevs
whatevs

” down to over thinking absolutely everything that I have to do rituals in my mind to break patterns when they start to own me. ”

are you obsessive compulsive about your obsessive compulsions 😀 ?

Ms.
Ms.

lol. i need to smash my mind up every now and then. think thats a merc-uranus thing though. good antidote to rigid thinking burn

Ms.
Ms.

and as if lilith was going to say nothing 😀

Ms.
Ms.
year of the fox
year of the fox

I have a friend with Saturn in the 3rd and a lot of what you say seems to apply to him. He is self-taught in just about everything, has dyslexia, and came from an intellectual background but hates his dad because of all the conflicts that stem from his aloofness. I was wondering what Saturn in the 3rd would be like.

Ms.
Ms.

just so this does not get reinterpreted- my personal background is not intellectual just had the push at home in strict ideology despite non academic family. nor do I hate my father, he is cocky and competitive with his intellect that was a lot of pressure growing up- ie. not knowing things would attract a certain level of insult despite age. but that’s just him.

Ms.
Ms.

but I did have to ‘beat’ him to win if that makes sense.

numoon
numoon

Saturn in 3rd here too. I used to get asked what country I am from all the time, told I had a (non-local) accent.
I have developed a slight stutter (happened at 30 lol) when I am excited or confused or angry… much to the surprise of family – no-one has mentioned it to me, but I know it when it happens.

Nibbana
Nibbana

That is interesting, I get asked what country I am from all the time too for the same reason, having a different accent, odd effect of Saturn in 3rd hey?

numoon
numoon

Yes! lol

sagaquacap
sagaquacap

this post is old but i feel like i need to connect. WOW the whole accent thing happened to me too! it has developed over the past 5 years and I haven’t even noticed it. its insane I found out about it when a friend told me that a friend of hers asked her which country I was from after meeting her. Then I asked my other friends about it and they said I only do it when I’m realy being careful about what I’m saying. I have started to stutter a little as well when I’m nervous.. I also… Read more »

Charley
Charley

In Libra in the 7th. I remember reading all the older astro texts about having Saturn in the 7th when I was young and being miserable and now here I am heading for spinsterhood in my 30’s, yay! Ha. Ugh, it’s deffo my achilles heal, I find it very hard to meet people I would like to have a relationship with, I’m always drawn to much older people in general but especially men. Current unrequited crush is at least 12 years older than me, last person I slept with more than once was 17 years older. I’m exceptionally good at… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

i dunno what lies ahead for you charley but i thought i’d let you know I was in my 30s when I found my good thing so all is not lost lovely. you can never tell what’s around the corner especially with all the uranus shenanigans going on opposite right now and if you’re aware of your limitations in this zone you’re already on the path to being able to master them. Saturn on PLuto believe it or not will probably be a blessing – you’ll have added oomph to delve deeper into the causes.

Charley
Charley

Thanks whatevs, I know I’m being a little melodramatic, I’ve been single for 3 years and it’s really only the last 6 months that’s bothered me. I suppose I should calm down and not write myself off quite yet, I guess I just know how I am and how things are likely to go and that’s scary and a bit sad but maybe thanks to the astro I can foresee and work on it. Thanks for the positive spin on the impending Pluto Saturn hang out too, there has to be one I’m sure ha! x

year of the fox
year of the fox

Saturn in 7th as well headed for spinsterhood in my 40’s! I find it really true that it’s hard to meet people. (really I like to blame chiron in 5th) I have forced myself to get out and about (because I hate doing so) but you can’t expect people to just show up when you stay home a lot. but yeah…no one. Unrequited crush is the norm here. I can say I’m not particularly drawn to older men. I’ve had maybe 2 relationships where that was true and they were early on. The past 4 peeps have been considerably younger… Read more »

Bluesky
Bluesky

Yes, here too.

Deep, real and long lasting (even if as friends…)

Anonymous
Anonymous

I have Saturn in Aquarius in the 7th House. I seem to only be attracted to people much older and have a very difficult time being around people even remotely close to my age. God forbid I have to hang out with anyone younger than me. I’ve had to many times and was ALWAYS miserable! I understand the restrictive nature of Saturn here. People with this placement do seem to purposely pick (older) partners and even friends who “restrict” them in some way. I especially do this because NOT only do I have Saturn Opposite my Ascendant—-I have Pluto (in… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

supercrab has saturn 7th scorpio conjunct dsc and its interesting because I there seems to be a big lot of 7th houser saturn peeps here and I am a lover/loving friend lets say but I am 5 years his senior and was only saying the other day I can see him taking a really long time to settle down. I have a very multi role in his world but can see the loneliness in a relationship sort of thing for him because he is kind of trapped by glass though immaculate in person has typical british emo issues of which… Read more »

Charley
Charley

Yikes, I only just realised (after years of staring at my chart) that Saturn is exactly conjunct my DSC too! Not really sure what that means to be honest, I mean I can gather a general gist but who knows, more, more, more intensity regarding one to one relationships I suppose. I’m not surprised he has issues letting his guard down with that happening in Scorpio and a crab too, seven years with my crab and even then he was restrained and somewhat repressed. Feel like I’m more frustrated because I didn’t used to be this way but I suppose… Read more »

Sassy
Sassy

Saturn in 6th house along with Mars. I have hard time defining 6th house. Isnt it a service house? Health, food, day to day stuff, jobs etc??

andromeda
andromeda

Mr. Sassy says, “This position normally confers organisational ability..and a mistrust of life”. And, “This position might describe ‘health freaks”. “Some may make a career out of healing professions” and “There can be over-criticism of those with whom they work”.

Your Saturn shit is the best because if you get sick, it’s a message from the gods, your pets are your shining light AND you excel at routine and ritual yet you are a bad-ass rebel.. ah the best of both worlds!

Sassy
Sassy

Yes, a mistrust a life. But health wise, yes can be very strict. Thnx andy for the info xxx Will be a master by the time i have my Saturn return. I trust in life. Life is a safe place for me.

nancyx
nancyx

Wish I read this before I posted below! I also have saturn in the 6th house.
Sick-as-a-message makes perfect sense, my pets ARE my only shining light, my routine is mapped out in my diary to the exact minute, and I most certainly rebel against anything that I feel is trying to tie me down.

Savannah
Savannah

8th house Saturn here too….it’s polished.

Pegasus
Pegasus

With an *th House Saturn no choice BUT to polish it 🙂

No=one wants to talk about death with me, dammit, so no oppportunity
to polish what i find a most fascinating subject.

Nic
Nic

I’ll talk death! I’ve just spent a week with my nana in hospital waiting for her to die. It was her funeral today. It was pretty amazing to watch her come to the end of her life. Things just slowly started shutting down until it all stopped. It’s an incredible process and I’m so glad I could be with her through it.

Bluesky
Bluesky

It IS good to be there at the very end. I’m sure she appreciated it.

comforting.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Don’t we love our Nanas. What a wonderful experience to witness
her slowly going and to be WITH her, to me that’s an honour many of
us don’t get.
She’ll visit you in dreams, Nic.
Have a theory that we get what we believe when we die. (there’s that word again,
belief.)
Sympathies to you. x

Nic
Nic

I think we get what we believe in too! She had dementia and through the last few weeks she kept saying that her dad was in the room. I’m not sure what happens when we die, whether we actually float off to somewhere lovely or if it’s all a series of chemical reactions in our brains. It’s fun to speculate sometimes, but I know she’s doing alright now, even if she’s just feeding the worms. The physical cycle of life/death is just as beautiful to me as the idea of an eternal soul/consciousness.

amanda
amanda

I have saturn in the 12th house conjunct Lilith and Chiron. I feel sorry for animals and other helpless beings. I often isolate and have had disappointing relationships with Pisces men. Its not meant to be an easy placement for saturn esp as its in Pisces. I never know what career i am meant to have. Any suggestions!! xx

laura luck
laura luck

i have saturn in my 5th house in virgo? I am an artist. Play is pretty important to me. I don’t know what this means? anyone?

jxstar
jxstar

thanks for your insight ‘Mystic’s Intern’… yep, i too am drawn into other’s lives and seem to have boyfriends that have so much drama going on in their lives. I live through it with them; partly detached and partly lovingly involved. So, your insight made a lot of sense. Oh, and speaking of isolation (Leogroover), man, that’s all i want to do at the moment. If it wasn’t for my job being enjoyably busy, i’d go hide somewhere, fill myself on red wine and carbs and cry! Seriously! But one needs to go to work and wear the ‘happy’ mask… Read more »

leogroover
leogroover

Totally with you JX. holding it together well. am proud of myself for it. hope you are too.

Mystic's Scorpio Intern
Mystic's Scorpio Intern

Maybe you’re projecting onto them your inner drama? For ages I thought it was most of my friends that had problems and wondered why I attracted colleagues and even just random people that I would meet who had ‘issues’. Now I am seeing my own issues for what they are, and it’s not exactly the most comfortable experience, can be icky, but worth exploring so long as one can remain relatively grounded and sane – dreamwork! I’ve always worn a happy, even ‘ditzy/naive’ mask too – fooled even myself at times…

leogroover
leogroover

I think we attract like minded peeps but also peeps whose probs we can handle and we may act as their support teams. i’m in a caring pos for few wayward friends and they for me. as long as it is not draining and unhealthy then its meant to be.

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Who was it sang that song – people who need people are the happiest people in the world. ?
There’s a pragmatic truth to our coexistence on this planet and individual’s ‘issues’ are but one aspect of this multifaceted relationship.

Nibbana
Nibbana

Saturn in 3rd house at 9 Lib and currently transiting nearly at the same spot in 3rd house 11 Lib… So me the novice trying to understand this… 3rd house is communication, no? So the fear would be a fear of speaking my truth… transformed into a strength would be an affirmation like… I declare my truth loudly and boldly! If I have not totally got this wrong that is LOL! And in Libra… um indecision? Wavering? New-to-fab-astro peep here waving for some expert insight! 😉 Funny thing is that when I was growing up I was TERRIFIED of speaking… Read more »

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

A strong Libra Saturn can turn folks into people-pleasers I.M.O – a sorta Yes Man quality. Libra loves to be loved – it’s a Venus thing – but can take that to extreme lengths in keeping others happy, saying what they need to hear, saying Yes when inside they’re screaming No, bending over backwards for popularity – always something to look out for with strong Libra placements I reckon. In third house, I think you’re dead right, fear of speaking out, but you can transform that one into a healthy fear of being misunderstood. Say it like ya mean it,… Read more »

Plutobunny
Plutobunny

Saturn in 11th house, I socialise with a large group of friends and work with a team of people, but always feel like an outsider. I find it easier to make friendships with older people.

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Saturn in 4th house and have just recently embarked on a task to love my family of origin , warts and all. It has turned my confidence around enormously as there is so much social discomfort about dysfunctional family relations. And it also turned up some fascinating ancestors, travelling entertainers of the Edwardian theatre, to whose lives I can easily relate. And as for a home ( 4th house) of my own, I’m finally ok with doing it my way. I totally agree that Saturn need not make the house it’s in feel sat upon. The turd, once petrified, is… Read more »

perfectpisces
perfectpisces

saturn in 4th Sagittarius ..

balancing
balancing

Saturn in 4th in ..,Virgo

yes I have hang ups about being organized, berate self for lack of organisation. and Classicly have family hang ups too.

I am a very bad procrastinator- I constantly battle with that. hmmm I do think that is a 4th house thing.

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯

Er… Saturn in Virgo conjunct Mars in the 6th house here… “in the 6th House can be a hypochondriac”

Hypochondriac… yeah sort of. I am hopeless at recognising when I am ACTUALLY sick or need to rest, it just doesn’t register. Yet when I THINK I’m sick, I go into a state of panic… omg what is wrong with me… kind of panic.

Although I would like to add my brother and sister are both nurses, my OLDER siblings who terrified me with stories about all sorts of things… Would I want either of them as my nurse? Hell nooo! 😯

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Hey BG was just posting when you wrote this.
Fascinating . Do you get sick first or aware of the potential to get sick first? You must have a fairly robust immunity to work in cafes and survive endless streams of airborne gick .

Baristagem
Baristagem

I was just thinking the same about your post, fascinating! 😯 Usually when I am actually sick, I generally can’t tell unless there are physical signs like I am running a temp or need to sit down if I’m exhausted. But as soon as i think I’m better I’m back into full routine, which is usually a little premature. When I was about 7 or 8yrs old I became so sick, but I walked into town (country) which was about 10min walk and took myself to the dr who then admitted me to hospital and kept asking me how.. did..… Read more »

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Lol. Wow, I don’t know whether to say poor you or lucky you. Amazing you for getting yourself to the doc. This is a total intuitive guess but have any psychic peeps asked you if you are a shape shifter? Apart from the exercise results 😉

Sassafras
Sassafras

Me too, Saturn in Virgo conjunct Mars and also Venus. Totally relate to what you’ve written about not quite getting better after sickness and excercise warding off colds etc. Also thinking about the Virgo body connection? There is the idea of Virgo being that earthy woman sort of ultimate Ceres character. I remember reading about a Virgo womans body being like a supple landscape with valleys and crevices like the Grand Canyon. I feel my Saturn in 6th house does give me a relationship with my body in which I often feel very insecure about my body, almost like it’s… Read more »

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯 No twinfish haven’t been told that, although… what is it exactly? Interesting sassa, yes I sometimes feel a little disconnected with my body and have found meditation is helpful, although not entirely successful… 😆 I have heard Yoga is a much better for that and friends are saying it is brilliant! My chiro once told me that I reminded him of another client he has, he said the way we treated our bodies was so intense that he was constantly doing the same work on our bodies, individually. Always giving us tonnes of magnesium etc. I was so surprised… Read more »

Mystic's Scorpio Intern
Mystic's Scorpio Intern

I have Saturn in the twelfth house of the unconscious. Have read that “some with this placement take responsibility for the care of mentally ill or others who are separate from humanity.” It was only just the other day that I was reflecting that the reason I am drawn to working with people with Autism is that they seem to be not fully in this reality. I think the appeal there is that they confirm my twelfth house Saturn that can feel cut off from the world and even not that connected with my physical self at times (maybe somewhat… Read more »

leogroover
leogroover

good interp MSI, I’m 12th house too and have always felt drawn to outsiders and vulnerable people who are more real than those living inside the box. Poss why I love working with the elderly.

I could go into isolation at the mo but I’ve keeping aware of the little ways peeps who don’t know what to say are showing compassion in many little ways.

Zaiborg
Zaiborg

Whoah – 12th houser here too – in Pisces. Done my stint in Aged Care as well, until it wore me down, and almost out…

The mentally ill? LOL! – every long term relationship has been with some ‘Arty’ type who is… – no joke.

Have ALWAYS felt ALIEN…

Mystic's Scorpio Intern
Mystic's Scorpio Intern

Some guy into shamanism told me I AM from another planet!!

You aged-carers have such an important job. I know a couple of people who do that, sounds exhausting. So much driving and talking and cheering up-ing, ETC. I admire you. Nurses too.

leo with a hint of libra
leo with a hint of libra

“Saturn in 12th also & yes am drawn aide / connect with outsiders, though it hasn’t manifest in the work arena. yet….
yes to immediate compassion for the disadvantaged.
yes to self-questioning & reassurance.(…)”

This is me too! Plus i love to isolate myself. Then again, I don’t know if I really love it or if it’s something I just *have* to do to be myself. I’m secretly afraid of being overwhelmed, I think.

My saturn in 12th house (virgo) is conjunct to jupiter. What does that mean?

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

Jupiter can take the edge off Saturn and give you a balanced middle ground perspective. Otherwise Jupes in the 12th could get lost in the great unconscious ocean, whilst Saturn freezes up so much it forgets to swim.

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

Seeing the 12th is ruled by Neptune (or Jupiter — Pisces correspondences), Saturn may restrict the ability to sense cosmic interconnectedness or the BIG PICTURE going on around you.

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

thanks Ubes!!

the cluster fug of action planets in Virgo can spark simultanious focus on marco & micro losing ‘big picture’ – & if Saturn at play, tis blinkered at times …. *hmmm, ponders*

love yr back. & yr front also … lol – 😉

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

**simultaneous**!!

shell
shell

Saturn in 12th/Cancer/conj Asc. Natty posted the following in response to a comment I made re that placement resulting in much self flaggelation in response to perceived emotional weaknesses (admitting to them) It got lost in the site reboot. Unusually however I had recorded and thus repost for prosperity. Some cancer related but filter as you wish – set healthy limits on delusions and projections – explore vastness of the universe/other in an organised way – bring mothering and fathering qualities to 12th concerns – find comfort and nourishment through dreams/psychic experiences – very intuitive with gift for turning intuition… Read more »

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

hmmmm interesting!!

as an aside – started reading yr post last night & the area had a power outage – first one I can recall. anyway subsequently almost every electrical thing requirered-booting & never got back to this till now lol ….

thanks shell!! xox 😉

Me
Me

i have saturn in 12th house too. would love to know more about what it means… i’ve read what it says on astrodienst but want love to know more ?????

jxstar
jxstar

um, someone, anyone?… I have Saturn in 12th house and have read it means ‘plagued by self-doubt’ (check), ‘tends to feel different or isolated’ (check)…. can anyone enlighten me further? 🙂

libra-leo, Aries Moon
libra-leo, Aries Moon

Saturn is conjunct my leo ascendent (by 2 degrees) … My saturn is technically in the 12 house but I’ve heard if its on the boarder it gets counted as being in the first. Does anyone have any insight into this?

When I was younger I flipped between being an intolerable show off to being uber shy … more balanced now… but still not as glam/well groomed as the other librans/leos.

Mystic … does this mean I’m in for a really rough time this mercury-retro… particularly as i’m in the midst of rallying up support and launching a major biz deal/project?

shell
shell

I have a similar placement. I posted a note re this just below.
If you search the Saturn (in diy particularly i think) archives you’ll come across a few conversations between myself and SPAMLR re this topic, as she also has it.
(hi SPAMLR, hope alls well in your world)

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

So.. are we basing it on 1st house being the sun sign? Some do.. some don’t and I find that concept a little confusing. If so, Saturn in 4th with Chiron. Early unrest and lots of movement in house/home until pretty much the beginning of the decade past. Lots of family stuff and unsettled living or wandering in early years and I guess.. if I’m on the money.. home and hearth is also related to finding one’s place in the world and I don’t actually have that still even though I’m comfortable/settled and have most of what I want it’s… Read more »

cando
cando

Saturn in the 9th too Maria I think from my reading (and please astro fiends correct me if I am wrong) that the 9th indicates life philosophy – to answer the question why I am here what is my purpose?
I’ve really struggled with that in the past and have only recently tried to find my optimistic self. “I can be the change I want to see in the world”.
Not very good at identifying where Saturn is for me now – hope it is somewhere in my eighth as it certainly feels that way.

Sabbers
Sabbers

Saturn in the 10th conjunct midheaven. I am completely obsessed with being a public failure. Or not being successful enough. It’s not that I’m work phobic either. I just can’t seem to settle on finding my career path. Although I am a parent I really want to work but can barely leave the house for fear of being judged and the stupid thing is on an individual basis I couldn’t give a hoot about what people think of me but leaving the house and facing them I just seem to have a block. I’m hoping my Saturn return will give… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

sabbers, what’s your take on judging others? Meaning, if you fear being judged in the public eye – why? Are you critical of others who wrong-foot things in life, or have you had a parent or other key figure in your life who has always seemed to judge others harshly? Perhaps you absorbed unhelpful messages about not being “enough” in certain arenas. Fear of failure can often stop us from making true progress in many things, New ventures, study, love (in my case at least lol), an outing in a new ‘scene’, etc. Saturn oh Saturn… with its YOU’RE NOT… Read more »

Sabbers
Sabbers

Hmm that’s a toughie something I hadn’t considered before. I’m very accepting of others I believe, even people that are considered to have done something wrong. I always believe there must have been a reason for it and it’s sad that they chose that path. I have a few saggy placements and Neptune on the Asc so I’m very accepting and I seem to feel every ones pain, and very emotional, especially if I see something happening that would hurt another person. I think it possibly stems from my father perhaps another Saturn/10th house reason, he was always like do… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

saturn in 10th is good for research & i think if you’re planning to be a teacher your saturn placement could be really helpful to you – cafe astrology says it’s good for leaders and guides.

le bush
le bush

Cap Saturn in 11th house with Mercury/Neptune and loosely conjunct Uranus. My training is to major Advertising/Public Relations with event planning. I am going to learn how to loosen myself up in the group setting because I will be in the control. My fears is being rejected because I know I am different, deciding to be a loner when I REALLY want a helping hand, not able to see what others see in me, the fact that I may have poor interpersonal skills because I am from a working class and I want to be at the top. I think… Read more »

saturnian
saturnian

Me too le bush- Saturn in Cap in 11th House but also conj Moon. Ouch! Totally hideous. I understand your fear about being different: me as a child, coming home from school with huge, great, gulping sobs from having no friends, urging my mother to pleeeeze move me (again) to another school. So hard but then I learnt to embrace my difference and see them as my strength and establish a tribe of different others for support and when necessary, withdraw, but don’t see it as a weakness but just self-nuturing. Fortunately my Saturn is well-aspected and so it’s a… Read more »

saturnian
saturnian

D’oh! I meant, when you play BY Saturn’s rules, not “my” – what was that – an arrogant Freudian slip? How embarrassment….

le bush
le bush

Ha! about the Freudian slip.

I don’t know if Saturn is well aspected but it’s HPIC (Head Planet In Control) and touching almost 5 out 9 planets (including Chiron). It’s loaded with super potent tools for me to take but making me super conscious with tools that I have.

Gasp, that was me every time I get into a new environment, I take a good one look of the place and I want to back home and pretend that it’s not very interesting or whatever know what excuses I made.

Thank you for the book recc. 🙂

Curious Cancerian
Curious Cancerian

Saturn in 5th house…. I do seem to have a fear of not finding love, not being ‘enough’ for the ones I fall for, and time and time again seem to get my heart broken. Romance is so important to me but I seem to take my insecurities into relationships, and can go years between finding someone I like…

Nene
Nene

I have the same placement so I completely understand… I’m extremely cautious when it comes to relationships and I’m really an “all or nothing” gal and it doesn’t help that my Sun is Scorpio!

I really want to work out my “issues” before it gets too late because I would be totally bummed to go thru life and fail this particular lesson…

Curious Cancerian
Curious Cancerian

Yes, I totally get what you mean!! We should start a support group or something… xx

Champagnebearing Aquarian
Champagnebearing Aquarian

I have Saturn in the 5th too – and that was my first fear. But when you think about it, 5th relationships are fun and light and flirty but the really important enduring ones are 7th house, yeah? (Or 8th house soul mates!) Maybe it’s more a case of not being able to enjoy the fun of short term flings (or relationships that are amazing but have a use by date) because we’re so focused on finding THE ONE? Just a thought! x

5th is also parenting/ kids and games…

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

CBA – god another returnee …

hi baby cakes – clink clink soon hot stuff?!! xox 😉

Curious Cancerian
Curious Cancerian

I like your take, CBA – and it kind of fits as well, since I struggle with keeping things light. If I like someone enough to be with them, I like them enough to commit to them, because I don’t do love by halves…

Oh yeh, found this very cheerful article online about how women with Saturn in the 5th are often barren and bitter and are hated by children, lol… Gotta love those naysayers.

Nene
Nene

Good point, Champagne! I don’t do “flings” well… In my world relationships have to go someplace or have some meaning or I check out quickly. Now, my best friend is a Leo and she flits from one inane relationship to the next. Sometimes, I envy her that but then when I look at all the dead bodies that are piled up in her love mausoleum, I much prefer my approach!

dazedandconfused
dazedandconfused

Omg god, is that what is the problem with saturn in the 5th house. Yes, we need a support group no wonder, I go through long absences without a love relationship as well like right now I am done…I’m all in or all out. Some may be the ONE but I treat my relationships like they are. Where do you find info on Saturn in the 5th house? on here somewhere? Thanx

dazedandconfused
dazedandconfused

*correction…Some may Not be the ONE but I treat my relationships like they are.

Libraquarius
Libraquarius

Saturn’s in my eleventh house, Leo, with Pluto cuddled up right beside it. Sheesh. So dealing with family in early life, school and any groups or public work is really hard for me. I now work hard not to take offence and withdraw to protect myself and I had a real lesson when I nearly walked out on a group, stayed and it led to my development as a teacher. I still find myself cautious in on-line forums, but I’ve worked hard to stay put and I’ve seen the huge benefits in meeting so many loving, kind people on-line.

Plum
Plum

11th house here too, conj. South Node! Struggled socially through school and have always valued my freedom and independence above all else, but now see my friendships as a huge source of happiness. Interesting what you say about being (over) sensitive. My Saturn/S Node are in Cancer. I too see ‘not taking offence’ as a conscious, positive decision. I’m prone to tie myself in knots worrying about whether I’ve upset someone else, as I know I can be a bit cavalier with my opinions – one of the reasons I feel I should cut others some slack.

Panda Girl
Panda Girl

Mines in the 11th as well – part of my saggo stellium of Sun/Merc/Uranus. Can totally relate to the struggling socially initially/in school etc. I didn’t really get good social skills until I was about 16? I’m incredible social now and have a varied social circle *but* I’m really, really aware of how other people interact/who’s being left out/who needs help etc. in social situations. It’s a strength now imo where my Saggo merc would run roughshod and tactlessly through and over anyone without this influence! The flip side is agonising over whether I’ve upset people/over analysing the situation… I… Read more »

mrcreosote
mrcreosote

Saturn 1st house Aquarius, square Venus. Shyness? Got that in spades. If I read the interpretations from the the Astrodienst interactive charts correctly, it could be best summed up as ‘I am a rock. I am an island’

FWIW, this is the one area of my life that I have been really working on the past couple of years. Just got tired of always being afraid. Had a few hits and misses along the way, but slowly making progress.

Currently in my 10th house. Fear of failure? who doesn’t have that?

Jen
Jen

I have a 1st House Saturn, along with being a Cap rising.
It’s my least favourite placement in my chart, because I feel like it cancels out all the potentially awesome points of also being Uranus/Neptune rising. I just come across as being uber serious and shy, and I have a ridiculous amount of hang ups. How did you deal with it mcreosote?

mrcreosote
mrcreosote

ditto cap asc, with virgo sun to round it out. How do I deal with it? with the help of a few years with a good psychologist, and, as I said, finally being ‘sick and tired of being sick and tired’, I just forced myself to take a chance and make the effort to make the first move towards people, accepting that it will either work or not. Started with baby steps, and gradually found it easier each time. Also found other ways to express my ‘inner self’ in the way I dress (wearing a hat a’la Mad Men to… Read more »

andromeda
andromeda

Saturn in the 1st here also: Very well, Mr. Sasportas says, “Those with Sat in the 1st are reluctant about approaching life at all”. Yep, I think I had epilepsy as my brain just collapsed at the intensity of life. Only get a twitch now when I am forced into unsustainable situations. Unlike you Mr. C, I am only shy like I am epileptic – not much, but it’s grotesque when it happens, I contort myself like a monkey on acid. Jen, neither am I serious. But how does one ROCK this Saturn? Why by being all cheekbones, dignified in… Read more »

leogroover
leogroover

love that ando – approach all situes with your heart. i poured mine out a bit yesterday and now I re read it it sounds a bit too flippant. The lusty is sooo confusing strong Kataka rising mire than a Leo) so i have outbursts every now and then to let him know how I feel, he goes awol when I do that oh well. Astro says not to get bogged down or cement anything. will do

hippychic
hippychic

Yes First House here too, in Taurus Retrograde. Mmm does that mean I am shy and walk backwards out of uncomfortable stiuations? Yep can do that, being a multi libran I don’t like confrontation anyway. Don’t like too many people looking at me at once either (no leo planets in my chart) What kind of affirmation would work here. Andy’s guide with your heart is an excellent mantra under all situations. I think Self esteem is a big one with Saturn in the First. Maybe…. ‘I am me so deal with it because I have to!’ – Not very greatness… Read more »

andromeda
andromeda

As a Leo Hippychic I have mixed feelings to people (extreme extrovert/extreme introvert concurrently!) The 1st House is Ego to me, while Saturn is self-loathing in this context, so it truly is a prideful placement. Like, no one cares that much, for you to get so precious and shy, is what I tell myself! Deepak Chopra says, “Beneath the commonly accepted understanding of self-esteem as the ego feeling good about itself, there is the real self-esteem which is based on a spiritual recognition of one’s true value. That value has nothing to do with accomplishments or positive thinking. To get… Read more »

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Another Leo sun with Saturn conj Asc in Pisces Rx – most difficult placement in my chart – extreme insecurity re my body/identity. Now in my 40s, keep trying to use memories of self loathing in my earlier years while looking at photos to see I was/am beautiful. Nothing aside frrom perfection is good enough with this placement. Very difficult to admit my vulnerabilities and weaknesses, to anyone but myself. Currently in love with an Aqua Saturn in 7th guy (conj Sun/Mars). Loving this post, interesting comments…. Saturn, despite all his hard-arseness, is so very human.

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

7th house Aqua Saturnian’s last relationship lasted 30 years ! Childhood sweethearts. Difficult for me to comprehend, but then he has Aqua/Pisces/Aries 7th house loaded with Mars/Sun/Saturn in Aqua, Moon/Chiron in Pisces and Venus in Aries.

Gemstone
Gemstone

Another Leo Sun with Saturn conjunct Taurus ascendant.

My experiences are similar– perfectionist within myself… very hard on self, though as I age, it becomes less and less. On the plus side, I look fantastic for my age! I think Saturn in the first helps with that!

Stay positive fellow first house Saturn peeps!

Redhead Gem
Redhead Gem

Wow this is a really home-hitting quote/idea! I have saturn in my 1st and recently got my first job in the film industry here in Hollywood. The loud personalities/ bull dog tendencies naturally bowl me over but with Saturn and it’s placement in my chart I feel like its even worse. I have leo as my moon and gem as my sun so my natural extrovert persona cries when I become too shy to talk or participate. Its some tough stuff. I’ve been putting myself down for some time about all this but this is a really uplifting thought. Sometimes… Read more »

hippychic
hippychic

Andromeda, I love how you express the ego as the first house. So so true. All your beautiful heart wisdom is so much what I express to others but have always had difficulty allowing it for myself. I work on this every moment of every day and have now gotten pretty good at it. I have actually gotten to the point where I live mostly as an expression of my trueself, but still every now and then the ego gets my attention It is a slow patience-orientated, but worthwhile path. So often it is easier for us to allow in… Read more »

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Hey you lovely fellow 1st house Saturn peeps, great reading your analysis here. It’s funny, I was such an intensely shy youth and remain a very quiet and at times quite shy person, so people, especially my family, are quite baffled that I chose career ambitions that would place me in the public eye. And I continue to court even more public attention LOL! I am almost never nervous when I am public speaking but can get SO nervous over a one-on-one conversation I can be reduced to a shaking mess. Very odd, but I guess constructing a public persona… Read more »

andromeda
andromeda

I think the independence is Cappy, I am quite comme si comme ca about stuff. But I have Venus conj my Saturn in the 1st house (Kataka), so I apparently meet life with open arms, but often reluctantly open-armed due to Saturn (“Here I am dahlings – oh GOD what am I DOING?”).

Interesting about the relating to the public more easily than the individual! I have tendencies there too, tho my Scorpy Moon nullifies this I reckon. Are you Virgo Rising Lexi?

Hope that our looks improve with age like Gemstone suggests y’all!

queenofthejungle
queenofthejungle

Here I was worrying that there wouldn’t be any information on 1st house Saturn, but looks like we’ve got it in spades! My Saturn is in the first, but closer to the 2nd house cusp. I do worry about money sometimes (and I think “worry” is probably a Saturn in 1st characteristic), and relate to the “independence” comment earlier. I’ve got a lot of Fire (Sag rising, Leo stellium in the 9th house) so I also get the thing about feeling extroverted and shy at the same time. I *want* to be noticed and appreciated, but sometimes react with embarrassment… Read more »

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

I know a lovely Taurean guy with Saturn conjunct his first house sun. He’s terribly misunderstood — others often find him aloof, when really he’s incredibly shy, self effacing and self conscious. He worries so much about saying the wrong thing that he doesn’t say anything. Anyway, I’m encouraging him to smile more and allow more people to see what his friends do. I don’t believe he should pretend to be something he is not, but I feel his natal Saturn is casting a shadow on his sun. He’s an incredibly meticulous and hard worker, so I’m encouraging him to… Read more »

Lore
Lore

another 1st h saturn here! it’s in saggo, though i’m scorpio asc.
i can relate with everything you say
shyness, perfectionism, sometimes i’m too hard on myself (could it be because it’s retrograde?)
when i was younger criticism from parents/teachers/etc. hurt and i strived to be perfect, i became a little overachiever.
Now that i’m older it’s something I’ve been working on and i try to not take things so seriously 🙂

other thing is that when i was a child i looked older, now i’m always mistaken for a younger person and i’m 25 haha
that is saturn’s influence, right?

Rani
Rani

I have Saturn in the 7th too. From what I can gather, if we don’t have a good strong sense of ‘self’, developed through age, we gravitate towards older partners who we associate with our childhood authority figures and then proceed to blame them with that feeling that we’re constantly being dominated?

Phew.
Le boyfriend is even more childish than me, although admittedly 110% responsible in times of need. So, the opposite of said childhood authority figure, who is dull at the best of times and becomes hysterical when things go wrong.

Hmmm?

riverwalker
riverwalker

Saturn in 7th house. Recently left long marriage and have spent last 5 to 6 years analysing the relationship, seeing from new perspectives, gaining insight about myself and growing. Was all sugar and spice but we never dealt with the festering stuff underneath.

Working on my weaknesses, the next relationship should be better balanced and functional with me newly individuated and not so blinded by love and afraid of hurting. (more mature really)

Raché (Aqua/Tauri)
Raché (Aqua/Tauri)

“if we don’t have a good strong sense of ‘self’, developed through age, we gravitate towards older partners who we associate with our childhood authority figures and then proceed to blame them with that feeling that we’re constantly being dominated?” Saturn in 7th. Going through this now…older partner with a 13 year age difference. I am totally in love with him, but my life is kind of a mess. Just graduated, still getting my shit together and gaining momentum whereas he is very successful. Relocated for love and now freaking out, wanting to leave so I can FEEL free but… Read more »

Ali B Aqua
Ali B Aqua

I had a patch with a georgeous 40yo 13yrs my senior, I was saddened that he wouldnt make it work, I tried so hard. But looking back I knew the whole time it was temporary, a moment. A brief blip. My saturn sits in the 7th / 8th house. Rani’s words resonate here too.

Bluesky
Bluesky

definitely resonate with “developing strong sense of self through age”

Very well put.

davidl
davidl

Saturn in cap in the 7th, I’m pretty ‘serious’ (is that the word?) about my relationships, thats worked out in the end, but was tough till I was 40.

stella
stella

Hi davidl. Can you pinpoint if there was a catalyst for the change? Curious ’cause I have Saturn in the 7th and it feels like TIME just drags on re getting things right in the luv arena.

davidl
davidl

I met my wife when I was 38, I felt like it took forever but its been amazing for 14 years and getting better all the time. I just had to wait for so long for the right person, or it seemed that way. That was the turning point. Before then ,serial monogamy, fun ,but ultimately unfulfilling.

stella
stella

Interesting David. That’s how old I am now. Saturn in the 7th feels like Rapunzel in a tower . . . lucky thing I don’t have any grey hair yet – nothing more gross than a long grey plait!

year of the fox
year of the fox

Your words give me hope. I have Saturn in the 7th and it’s so hard to find a good relationship…hell it’s hard to find a stupid date (Chiron in 5th)…and you can’t go from nobody to a relationship.

So i guess the positive thing i am getting out of Saturn right now is that I’m by myself and can work on improving myself without dragging another innocent human through my crap with me. Like someone said already, working on boundaries.

davidl
davidl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKFEjZ98Q4s

This was me 15 years ago, and it does remind me of the saturn in 7th dilemma …gotta make up your mind

Pegasus
Pegasus

Freddy Mercury is alive & well & living in Maroubra????

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Wot an image! Funny!

Bluesky
Bluesky

Saturn in 7th is my placement too. I can relate to Rapunzel and the seriousness. I also think it’s learning to work on healthy boundaries in a relationship. (perhaps the hard way)

Not being a doormat. Not being a tyrant. The healthy not-being.

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

Or healthy being…Being firm, having self respect. Being flexible and compassionate. High Saturn in the 7th can be mature relationships that endure.

ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising

Saturn in 7th here also. Definitely been a tough lesson. Survived abusive relationships never thought I’d find one that worked but, did.
I take relationships seriously and extremely important to my inner balance.
Have a hard time functioning if my relationships are crazy. Had to learn not to be codependent doormat or too demanding. Tough lessons, but worth learning.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

This is a tough assignment for me – Saturn conjunct Venus at 29Taurus and they together saddle the cusp of 2nd/3rd houses. It is not fear of poverty, but the fear of being financially dependent. Been there, was humiliated and never going there again. My finances are always in flux, so I save, save, save and then save more. Virginia W was misleading – it is not a room of her own, it is a bank account of her own. Mercury and Sun are too in the 3rd house, Saturn on the cusp is then the garden variety – am… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

Saturn in middle of 2nd house here too. Again, not fear of poverty. I agree about horror of financial dependence on someone else though. When past BFs have gone on some rant about gold digging women-this and paying for everything -that, I just looked at them and laughed, they mustn’t have known me that well after years of splitting bills and me paying for gifts and nice things for them to notice I don’t want their stupid money… *take deep breath and exhaaaallle UP*. Anyhoo rants aside, I have googled the crap out of this placement – second house is… Read more »

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Thanks UP, I just added your description to the little treasure of emails I read now and then to get back on track.

The discipline to master Saturn definitely pays off, but what-a-master-..with-da-whip…

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

so true, quad. glad there’s something useful in there for you.
It’s fun workshopping saturn. Fun, in the way that taxes and psychotherapy are fun. even if you emerge with a fistful of insights in 15 pages of guided scrawl-therapy, that’s enough to take one more hard-won but graceful step forwards in the journey of self-awareness…aah 🙂

Seabird
Seabird

UP, I’m a second-house Saturn too, and I thoroughly identify with what you’re saying. And I have major money issues. Thankyou for writing that up.

Bluesky
Bluesky

Quadr–I sooooo resonate with your feelings about the 2nd house. I have always had a horrid fear of dependency. I love “bank account of one’s own”!!!! Exactly!!!!

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

Nicely put UP. Yah, I reckon Saturn placement is the house where you have to work your arse off. So in the 2nd issues of money, resources, manifestation/completion and self worth are going to be contentious and if you work your Saturn you’ll put in the time and slog to iron that out.

aqualala
aqualala

Saturn is slap in the 2nd. Definite fear of poverty. I hate depending on anyone for anything, and I can’t ask for help.

Scorpio Sun/Rising
Scorpio Sun/Rising

Same here. Saturn in the 2nd. Fear of Poverty, relying on others bank accounts.. NOT going to happen!

amazing insight.. it’ll be fun to work with this now.

Musical Libran
Musical Libran

Ooh. I’ve got Saturn in my 8th house (sexual hangups) – and pretty much have been celibate the last 15 years. But in the last few months I’ve been to a tantric sexuality course and been doing all sorts of reading/exploring…..and working on moving myself to a different place with embracing being a sexual being. So this resonates SO much.

Woohoo. It feels like it is working too. Even in just a solo fashion at the moment! 🙂

Dawn
Dawn

what’s the Saturn symbol look like?

mrcreosote
mrcreosote

take a look at the ‘current planets’ box on the LHS of mystic’s website

Meow
Meow

Looks like a h with a horizontal line through the top part

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

I have 8th house Saturn too, and I DEFINITELY have no sexual hangups, but it is conjunct my 8th house Sun. I do always find change difficult though. As in big change – lots of anxiety. I am trying to learn to meditate etc and learn healthy ways of coping with change-induced anxiety.

Ali B Aqua
Ali B Aqua

Im an 8th house sexual genius as well. Resistance to change? I love it! bring it on… only in the darkness of night, I may slip back for a moment of comfort… hmmm…

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

Yes Im 8th house saturn as well, conjucnt venus, mercury and sun with saturn at the latest degree and sun at the earliest…. I wouldnt say i have sexual hang ups, and quite confident when it actualises, but I would see that im a bit fuqed up about how it happens these days, post 20something bullet proof floozy, now all integrity and on my way to the 40somethings… taking it all a bit seriously in the last decade, but still at times have a drive stronger than ive ever had before, and finding it hard to reconcile the drive with… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

Musical Libran, if you are going to buy ONE book for your exploration,
let it be Margot Anand’s ‘The Art of Sexual Ecstacy’. Some wonderful &
practical excersises.
If you but TWO, then the other i highly recommend is Taoist ‘Cultivating
Female Sexual Energy, buy Mantak Chia’s wife (Mrs Chia, don’t remember
her first name, anyway they are separated).

Nic
Nic

Thanks for the recommendations. I’ve just purchased Margot Anand’s book and as an 8th house Saturn with some serious sexual hangups I’ve found it to be an amazing read! Will definitely check out Chia’s book 🙂

Pegasus
Pegasus

Reply to you below, also have Saturn in 8th, but used it to teach
Tantric techniques, so no wonder it resonates with you 🙂

J*
J*

Another 8th house here in opposition to my Scorpio sun/jupiter/Venus/mercury stellium. I am a little secretive in the sexual department. I tend to feel like it’s my business & I do want to work on sharing more with my partner.

I am curious about Saturn & the other peoples money side of the eighth house. Any ideas?

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

Yeh that would be interesting, I think it interprets for me as being responsible for others resources, but there is some hard lessons there, I wonder does anybody know.

Lauren
Lauren

I’m 8th house Saturn and Scorpio Sun too. I have my issues with sex and tend not to be easily satisfied by casual affairs. I need to have the complete mind-body-soul connection or nothing at all. Being a Scorpio I also love the mental, philosophical side of sex. Whether it’s reading about different cultural customs or historical works like the Kama Sutra, or indulging in something a bit more depraved and frightening. I find all aspects of it extremely interesting, whether I’m actively engaging in them myself or not. I always thought the “other people’s money” thing meant that you… Read more »

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