The Libran Tiger Queen


In the 3rd Century AD Vietmanese girlย Trieu Thi Trinh turned herself into a Warrior Queen to resist the Chinese invaders. She is the Vietmanese Jeanne D’Arc and she generated some awesome quotes:

…I will not resign myself to the lot of women who bow their heads and become concubines. I wish to ride the tempest, tame the waves, kill the sharks. I have no desire to take abuse.”

“I only want to ride the wind and walk the waves, slay the big whales of the Eastern sea, clean up frontiers, and save the people from drowning. Why should I imitate others, bow my head, stoop over and be a slave? Why resign myself to menial housework?”

 

Note the Mars in Taurus with Fortuna…And then that Mars squares Pluto in Leo and Moon/Lilith/North Node in Aquarius. This is known as a Fixed T-Square and you don’t mess with these peeps. I wouldn’t tread on her rice paddy either.

 

 

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hodad
hodad

Another Sun/Venus/Lilith combo–

Damons22/Jan/72
Damons22/Jan/72

wow! thanks Kim.

Tones
Tones

Looking at what she did and how pretty her chart is makes me think of Bjork’s ‘Army of Me.’ It would clearly be much better used as the soundtrack to the biopic of THIS Righteous Diva than the background to solitary sex-grinding, by a teen dressed as a baby prostitute. (A la Sucker Punch.)

Damons22/Jan/72
Damons22/Jan/72

Interesting that this chart is so evenly spread out like in a nice pattern. My chart is totally void of anything from section 3 to section 12 and grouped in a third of the circle ? does that mean that mine is un balanced as in i am an un balanced individual? can we tell that from a chart by the pattern of lines? it would be interesting to study thousands of charts and cross reference them with numerology etc , would take some time but it would be interesting.

Kim Falconer
Kim Falconer

Damons, chart patterns are very interesting. Sounds like you have a bundle! Not unbalanced. Focused. Here’s a very brief rundown: Seesaw – Planets occupy two opposing areas of the chart. Focus is on binary opposites requiring objectivity, awareness and balance. Bowl – Planets all within 180 degrees. Self contained and strong core values. Focus on the activated hemisphere. Bucket – Bowl pattern with one planet in the opposite arc–the ‘handle to the bucket. A strong focus with much energy pivoting around the singleton planet. Splash – Planets evenly distributed around the chart – scattered interests, diversity, flexibility and wide range… Read more »

shell
shell

Thanks for this Kim, I was thinking about chart patterns the other day as I have a square sextile, stellium, sextile, square thing, that’s kind of like a hexagon with one open side, (or an upside down horseshoe). Whilst it’s a splash, your bundle description, with the suggestion to focus on the two end planets (Uranus and Neptune both squaring personal planets) really resonates.
Thanks!

shell
shell

I meant locomotive, not bundle.

whatevs
whatevs

do the three points of a splay have to be trining?

thanks kim interesting

2Natured
2Natured

I have 4 T-squares and a Grand Cross. Mutable. When I saw her chart with all the lines I thought, “That looks like my chart!” Is it her T-squares or the fact that they are fixed that make her so independent?

sagitta
sagitta

I think it is the fixed sign t-squares that indicate “fixed’ nature–ie resistance/refusal to compromise/independence. You can see that in the Tiger Queen’s response, “Why should I bow my head, stoop over and be a slave?”

A mutable t-square would be quite different, indicating adaptability and flexibility. The challenge would be to focus all those different energies of the planets in the t-square, to coordinate and balance them. Since you have a Mutable grand cross, the appropriate metaphor would be how do you juggle all those balls (planets) and keep them in the air?

anastasia
anastasia

It is true some Libras are rather intense zealots. I know that I can be ๐Ÿ™‚

whatevs
whatevs

YES

rs
rs

yes. i am one. i hate that most of us are described as dainty little docile girls. But we only look like we are. I would rather die than play the submissive wife role.

Kimmy
Kimmy

I love the quotes and it’s so interesting to see her chart. I always find Capricorn rising women so capable, you know? Really strong and self-sufficient. And even though Cap AND Libra are the most ‘traditional’ of the signs, her Node, Moon and Lilith in revolutionary Aqua gives her the contra-cultural-paradigm edge. An amazing woman. Very inspiring. Love the way the Sun in the 9th and her chart ruler in Sagittarius seem to shine through too. But what interest me most are her oceanic metaphors. Is that because of where she lived? She had Neptune (king of the sea) in… Read more »

sagitta
sagitta

I don’t know about that fixed square making people formidable. I have Moon and Saturn conjunct in Aquarius, squaring Neptune and Sun conjunct in Scorpio, and squaring Jupiter in Taurus. And I am a wuss–people walk over me all the time. Any explanations?

Kim Falconer
Kim Falconer

I feel something formidable about you, Saggitta, just in the way you said, ‘Any explanations?’ It made me think, ‘I best answer this right now!’ ๐Ÿ™‚ There is a directness to you communication that has no sense of apology to it. No nonsense! It’s true that Moon and Neptune are both ‘people pleasers’ but there is something about those 3 fixed signs that stands firm. Formidable isn’t always jumping on an elephant and leading a battle charge. I think it can be a subtle strength, like being able to carry on in the face of hardship or emotional confrontation. Scorp… Read more »

sagitta
sagitta

Oh, you mean fortitude–yep, I got plenty of that. Thank goodness.

I think the direct communication comes from having Mercury in Sagittarius Rising. By the way, the “Any explanations?” wasn’t said in a challenging way. It was more like curious and wondering.

Thanks, Kim.

Kim Falconer
Kim Falconer

๐Ÿ™‚ Yes, fortitude is a good word for it. Your query felt ‘curious/interested’ and I also felt a strength behind it, in a good way!

Savannah
Savannah

My sentiments exactly!

Shame she killed herself, what else could she have gone on to do as she matured. Beautiful chart.

MsNoir
MsNoir

She seems divine… and I love the first quote! โ€œโ€ฆI will not resign myself to the lot of women who bow their heads and become concubines. I wish to ride the tempest, tame the waves, kill the sharks. I have no desire to take abuse.โ€ Say it loud say it clear!!! Formidable female energy is truly a force to be reckoned with – despite all the patriarchal efforts! ๐Ÿ™‚ And for some reason this reminded me of a Bjork quote I also love… โ€œI never really understood the word โ€˜lonelinessโ€™. As far as I was concerned, I was in an… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

I think I’m in love – check the 2nd house Aquarian pallas athene trine MC in Libra conjunct venus mercury conjunction in the 9th + trine Jupiter in the 6th house of service in Gemini but square Uranus in the 11th house in Scorpio = silver-tongued revolutionary rhetoric ahoy

Link
Link

Wow, what a girl. What a chart. I hear the ADF are looking for new talent–or will be, she would be perfick.

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

Mystic i am really enjoying that you are posting birth charts more often, I don’t understand them really but i just had a aha moment looking at the one above as i saw the red lines going out from the mars and it made sense to me!!! momentarily but still.

Tiger Queen is my new inspiration!!! Btw, tiger queen, tank girl; feminist much?

Pegasus
Pegasus

What a beautiful chart, almost the ‘Flower of Life’ symmetry there,
very powerful. Wouldn’t have minded a night tripping the light fantastic
with her in our tights & spikes.

whatevs
whatevs

ha! I was thinking that too pegs – bring on the rice wine etc.

Inger
Inger

She and I
Would have seen
eye to eye !

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

I’m pretty sure I have a T-Square. Leo Sun square Mars in Taurus and Pluto in Scorpio.

I’m not one to be messed with either, and I love this Libran warrior princess’ attitude.

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

Ah, somehow I misread and saw only Pluto and North Node. Missed the Moon and Lilith part, so no T-Square for me. But still formidable in my own right! I’ve gotten into my fair share of scraps with people this year because I won’t take their shit.

shell
shell

I had a dream about cat people. They were human/cat – they could look like humans or cats or in the middle, big upright cats with human faces. And some where deciding whether to change into just being cats (and being ‘free’ from the human bit). One kitten went to seek counsel from the ‘wise’ cats who lived in the forest and had managed to stay at a half cat/human stage. Cause once they decided to be cats they were not able to change back. It was cute, my neighbours cats made an appearance, one proudly adventuring off into the… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

Shell, have you seen the movie ‘Cat People’? Sexy as, with Bowie
doing the theme song ‘putting out the fire with gasoline’.
Interesting that you say perhaps it was your cat’s dream, as since my
new furry additions, my dreams are of animals again.
Kim Falconer features Temple Cats in her novels, they are telepathic
and as big as humans.

whatevs
whatevs

weird shell – but divine – maybe your cat is your familiar and you WERE seeing it with her eyes? May i share my most recent cat dream? it’s raining and I feel like it’s story time. I had a dream in that shit venus retro a while back in my 6th that the crazed toro with empire building power issues I was working with had gathered up all the cats she thought should be put down and wanted to show them to me. When I finally gave in and went and looked at them there was a whole pack… Read more »

shell
shell

According to my not very detailed dream book, cats can be about physical contact, affection, female sexuality and an intuitive warning about moods, dangers etc.
In my case i think it may have been my brain randomly combining random shite in it’s short term memory for it’s own amusement.
Or my cat is a temple cat and is trying to convert me from my human form (she is being a bit crazy cat lady of late, anti-anthropomorphising?)
Not seen David the cat Pegs, but visualising it as something al la Aladdin Sane with whiskers ๐Ÿ™‚

whatevs
whatevs

interesting re the cats dream symbolism def a warning in my case – you must see cat people shell – especially if you’re into cats

whatevs
whatevs

lol not that I would ever dream of telling you what to do

shell
shell

Rubbish, you’re clearly a cat person and you’re trying to turn me into one of you by attributing some kind of cat like sense of perception. I will not succumb! You’ll not get me purring, or meowing nor lying about in patches of sunlight like I’ve not a care in the world…. ๐Ÿ™‚
What’s the world for that animorphism?
Felination?

whatevs
whatevs

Felinatio?

shell
shell

Eeewwwwwwwww

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

Such interesting cat dreams…just let mine in ~storm is brewing~ whatevs all I can think is the end scene from Invasion of the Body Snatchers where ‘snatch’ got messed up and mans face was on dogs body. Freaked me the fuq out. In the original 50’s movie, the world is obv. going to hell in a handbasket and what to do..?! Have cocktails, of course ! Bizzare way of dealing by NOT dealing sounds like weird co-worker. Glad you got the escape pod ~> Shell, Love the line ‘cat was releuctant to give up light switches’ -odd visual and tres… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

Co worker had serious issues but I was just a placeholder for her – it wasn’t about me per se it was about her working out her issues – and I doubt she did because I refused to buy in as I am want to do when I smell insanity. My lesson was if you have a gut feeling about a gig from the outset say no.

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

*twitchy whiskers* hee, agreed.

whatevs
whatevs

I am totally digressing, apologies but it’s weird i was just thinking about the toro in my cat dream – made me realise it was when I expressed joy or love of something that she would start wigging out and muttering. All I said was this is the nicest sandwich I’ve ever tasted and she needed to “own” the bakery. Was always like she wanted to clamp down on joy or contain it in some way – afflicted saturn? Such a quirky mindset i swear there must have been some kinky uranian aspect in her chart which when combined with… Read more »

shell
shell

I see cat people!
(Ie sounds like a bit of black hole Leo in there, twisted generosity, no joy but their own allowed etc)

whatevs
whatevs

interesting you should say that, the only other human in the dream was a leo you are my oracle shell x

whatevs
whatevs

!!! you see dead people too?

shell
shell

Ah, no.
But the line had to be pulled out at sone stage hey?

(Saturn in the 12th, seeing dead people ain’t rational love)

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

Horrid, sad woman in that story…

whatevs
whatevs

draining

whatevs
whatevs

cat didn’t want to give up power?

Saturnrox
Saturnrox
shell
shell

She’s a shy, skitty one that one, wouldn’t want to give up on the security that electricity represents (in the real world).

shell
shell

Although I like both of your interpretations better.

sagitta
sagitta

I am wondering if the expression “herding cats” was playing into your dream, whatevs.

Maybe your unconscious was telling you that this woman found your independence threatening. So you saw her having ‘herding’ cats which all had your face. And she was taking them to be put down, which was a warning that things had come to a head, and she was going to have you fired.

I loved the “pistols at dawn beside the sourdough rack” image! ๐Ÿ™‚

Zaiborg
Zaiborg

Wooh-ah! Now there’s a gal that’d know how to cut-a-bitch…
I definitely wouldn’t want to be the one to suggest that she should perhaps consider a (designed by Satan) push up bra…?
Reckon she’d ‘bring it’

year of the fox
year of the fox

Damn that a hella mount of squares there! @_@ wow!

year of the fox
year of the fox

oh and i just looked up where one historian speaks of her and why she supposedly lost the last battle. She got grossed out because the enemy was fighting nekkids. LOL! Someone must have known she’s a Libra. The ugly! It hurts!

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

๐Ÿ˜€

sagitta
sagitta

Oh, that’s funny! I have Venus in Libra–and I totally understand . . . ๐Ÿ™‚

Baristagem
Baristagem

๐Ÿ˜ฏ

‘I wouldnโ€™t tread on her rice paddy either’.

๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

Pegasus
Pegasus

Hope you are feeling on top of it all now, BG ๐Ÿ™‚

Bet she could pierce a heart with a chopstick too.

Diana
Diana

Aesthetically cool chart!

poppykettle
poppykettle

My thoughts exactly! It’s strangely… entrancing.

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