Marilyn Monroe: Lilith Rising

“Everyone’s childhood plays itself out. No wonder no one knows the other or can completely understand. By this I don’t know if I’m just giving up with this conclusion or resigning myself – or maybe for the first time connecting with reality.

How do we know the pain or another’s earlier years, let alone all that he drags with him since along the way at best a lot of leeway is needed for the other – yet how much is unhealthy for one to bear. I think to love bravely is the best and accept – as much as one can bear.”

Marilyn Monroe, quoted in Fragments: Poems, Intimate Notes, Letters

You’d think that every last nano of info re Monroe had been released but no, bang on her Uranus Return came Fragments: Poems, Intimate Notes, Letters.

It includes her therapy notes, which i think is really low, even if the woman has now reincarnated and moved on.

Other than the interesting synchronicity of this being on her Uranus Return, it made me look at her chart and guess what i just realized?!

She’s Gemini, obviously & I already saw her as the ultimate pin-up for Neptune Rising – and in Leo – she personified that for sure. And Pluto conjunct North Node that you see in all singular peeps who seem to wind up influencing or symbolizing whole generations.

But she also has LILITH RISING.  I never knew that.  Neptune in Leo by itself makes me think superstar-gorgeous golden focus of collective anima projection-a bit lost in the valleys of Neptune maybe but Lilith there as well adds edge. Deeper, darker, ancient mysteries and all.

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I love Miss Monroe
I love Miss Monroe

Like MM, I have moon (in gemini) oppose neptune (Sag.) More IMPORTANTLY, we share LILITH conj. ASC. Mine is EXACT in 8 degrees Lira. I obviously NEVER met her. However, our lives have run parallel in MANY ways..including our childhoods (foster homes, abandonment, separations from mother etc…) Also later in life being seen/perceived, even USED as a sexual object particularly by older, wealthy men. Of course in the end, we don’t care ABOUT the money. What us LILITH types CRAVE is to be not ONLY seen BUT also TREATED EQUALLY to MEN. We cannot/will not accept the status quo –… Read more »

Elizalovebean
Elizalovebean

I’ve been trolling the web seeking Lillith-rising tidbits this morning. Beauty to find this snippet. Mine is not so roar-ish like MM in Leo, rather it is deep in the waters of Pisces for me.

frans rilea khaous
frans rilea khaous

my draconic lilith is conjunct my tropical ascendant.. found out today. no wonder i’ve been so interested in her. i can’t find much information on my specific aspect online :/

frans rilea khaous
frans rilea khaous

like EXACTLY conjunct. plus- me draco eros exact conjunct my tropical amor (therefore conjunct my tropical sun ifn’t weren’t for that one degree difference)
this makes SO much sense to me

Pegasus
Pegasus

In my youth i never understood what a brilliant actor MM was
as thought she was just being herself sans craft. It wasn’t til after she died
that people wrote how she ‘became’ Marilyn & people didn’t recognise
her when she wasn’t.
Read the Vanity Fair (last year) with all the photograph’s of notes
& scribbles, thought how invasive it was. Is death like marriage legally
binding? Pity we can’t divorce death.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I have neptune rising in saggi – hard work keeping that baby on an appropriate leash …

Anonymous
Anonymous

oo fireybovine here

AquariCrab
AquariCrab

Just when you thought there were no angles left, Andrew O’ Hagan has published a novel from the point of view of Marilyn’s Maltese terrier, Maf, given to her by Frank Sinatra. Haven’t read much yet, but so far it seems to be a very funny critique of celebrity and the times, set during Marilyn’s last years.

andromeda
andromeda

Feeling rather close to Marilyn since learning about her astro.. 🙂

We are both Tigers, She is Leo Rising I am Leo, she is Gem, I am Gem Rising.
She has Moon in Aqua, I have Lilith in Aqua opp my Sun.
We both have a sexy water trines.. I mean isn’t the similarity obvious?
(Sigh, sigh, sigh – trundles off to do my version of Neptune – the washing..).

andromeda
andromeda

Whenever I look at my Sun conj Venus in the 8th Kataka Son’s chart I just …wonder.
He has Lilith Rising (2 deg) off his Saggi Ascendent. Oh. And a Libra Moon in the 11th.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Can anyone tell me what rising means… Whatever planet/asteroid it might be, thanks!

quapricoro
quapricoro

i think it means any sign, planets or the like that are in closeness 2 your ascendant.

look here for the real astro version –

http://www.cafeastrology.com/risingsignsascendant.html

Ms.
Ms.

Interesting esp the whole jackie o marilyn thing personifying that quite literally too
But Marilyn on her own too yes.

I’ve never really taken notice of lilith in chart before all the lilith posts and its interesting to see where and how it manifests. pluto NN too. Picasso?
I have lilith quintile exact sun/mercury 3rd house. still learning what quintile is.

whatevs
whatevs

hey babe am choosing to hang with real-time crew whilst all the apocalyptic events unfold but you are the one I’ve missed – hope you’re well and life is dandy – all things considered xxx

whatevs
whatevs

oh yeah to keep it in context my gemini lilith rising gets you x

Ms.
Ms.

I was wondering how you are. thanks, things are tough but I am trucking. Thanks for the love. right back at you xooxoxox

whatevs
whatevs

god soz saturn in libra manners moment – I just realised “you are the one I’ve missed” that might seem rude to others but it wasn’t meant that way. Righto, off to water the garden in case food supplies dry up suddenly.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Many a true word said in jest!
I have a desire to buy a 20 kilo bag of rice & a kilo
of heritage seeds for standby purposes. recoomended
by some-one who’s predictitions have been uncannily accurate
re shortages.
Hard to believe when supermarkets are sooo stocked to the gills,
but that’s just supposed to lull us into not noticing.

whatevs
whatevs

quintile’s good for your creative work – http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/harmonics32.1.html

Ms.
Ms.

god thats complicated see if I can get my head around it. look after yours in real time xxxxxx

whatevs
whatevs

yeah fuq thanks I’ve got peeps in japan and nz – ALL of my peeps of any consequence apart from the aqua – gotta keep a grip on the real-time peeps the bloggers won’t be there to hand you a candle when the power goes off.

Ms.
Ms.

I thought when you disappeared it was aftercare for nz and had a feeling bout japan too. so much white light to all your people and you to keep strong. x

whatevs
whatevs

thanks hon – lilith/uranus is opposing my stellium on the IC here’s hoping she doesn’t suddenly swoop in and pluck my loved ones from their beds as they slumber – my uranus pluto sun and jupiter are astro cartographically right down the length of NZ – a large portion of my NZ whanau have just gone fishing and promised to send pictures of the catch whilst my BFF who also lives on the west coast has gone surfing – ironically months ago I said somewhere on a post here that uranus in aries seemed like a time I’d feel like… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

maybe ignore that it’s complicated and not actually what you’re talking about doh! I have a bob marks obsession even though his site looks naff go tell it on a mountain and check out moses http://astrologyforthesoul.com/qui5tylz.html having your mercury involved is beneficial – from what I know of you your lilith manifests in some interesting ways. Take it easy x

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

P.s.Anyone who thinks they can suppress the gemini restless mind with Valium is kidding themselves. And creating a monster.

Ms.
Ms.

maybe thats what gagas perfume will smell like

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

That IS interesting. My radical auntie’s fascination with Marilyn Monroe, another MM 😉 , was more about Marilyn’s power as a woman , psychologically and spiritually . The fact that she was well endowed with physical beauty comes only to bare in how she and others have recognised and exploited it. My aunt claimed Marilyn had Mystical insights and this is the real reason she kinda lost control of the wheel in her life. Too much conflict with social, male dominated conformity? I still haven’t seen The Misfits, but there is so much mystique around the making of it, and… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

Misfits is rather brilliant & very emotional. It was the movie where i
really got Munroe as my previous assessment had been ‘dumb-blonde’,
as i was in pre-puberty & teen when most of her movies released, so
no identification. It was Bridgette Bardot who captured my psyche then (her
boobs were smaller 🙂 and i was at private catholic college so prob heard
muttered or murmmered disapproval in the atmosphere around school.

Scorpio Sun/Rising
Scorpio Sun/Rising

Mystic? In reference to the Scopes for Scorpio.. what’s a “Time Witch?” I really do my best to get your jargen down but this one stumps me wicked. 😉

Pegasus
Pegasus

I’ll answer. A Time Witch can speed up or slow down time.
Can think herself into the past or into the future. Has access
to her DNA & can zip up & down it to activate ancient memories.
Lives outside tic-toc, although in it doesn’t buy into it’s regular
energy there by avoiding rat-race issues.

Jargon in French is pronounced ‘Argo’ like in Jason & the Argo-nauts 🙂

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