Gypsy Rose – Zap Zone Diva

Russh Magazine

Striptease artist, dancer, actress, author and playwright, Gypsy Rose Lee was as multi-talented and accomplished as you’d expect any multiple conjunct Capricorn to be.

She wasn’t just that: Her Sun-Mercury-Venus-Uranus stellium in Capricorn was opposed by Neptune and squared by Moon in Aries.

So, okay, if you check her Wiki and a host of associated data, Mum was a piece of work. Moon squares, particularly to Capricorn planets, can be tricky. Then again, it’s arguable that her Mother made her.

The combo of Neptune and Moon square all that Capricorn make her a brilliant example of chic Zap Zone living. Cardinal Squares may be stressful (like this week) but by fuq they get results.

That goes whether you’re born being it (like our Gypsy) or going through it a la now. And, well, you know…July-August.

To be clear: I am calling it the Zap Zone because it is not just an already officially stressy Cardinal Square (cardinal signs being Aries-Libra-Cancer-Capricorn and square being a challenging aspect) – it is between Uranus and Pluto. Rad change. See previous posts. But people BORN with this sort of set-up are just like bring-it-on.

Two things:

(1) Kudos to how brilliantly Gypsy did her chart.

(2) Do you have any Cardinal Squares in YOUR chart?   That would be planets or Sun/Moon/Rising  in Aries-Cancer-Libra-Capricorn at about the same degree or number. Astro-adepts please help out the newbies in the comments.

And for the sake of this exercise, let’s just say that your Closest Cardinal Square (eg; Moon at 6 Aries – Saturn at 9 Capricorn) is what gives you the most irritation early in life but it MAKES you.  In the case of Gypsy, she was forced to confront and do everything early on.

Thoughts?

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Deeja
Deeja

I have Jupiter-Venus in Aries/8th square Moon in Cancer/11th, which basically made me a bit of a wild child in my late teens & very early 20s. Also, a skewed perspective of love/relationships. Thankfully, I’m at the end of this phase of my life & have already begun the transition out of it.

Bluesky
Bluesky

PS–really like this picture.

AquaCrab
AquaCrab

I have only one Cardinal Square: Sun in Cancer/6th square Jupiter in Libra/9th. This apparently makes me prone to excessive optimism, gambling, living beyond my means and generally going over the top. Luckily I have many balancing factors in my chart, so I really only exhibit the going over the top, a kind of larger than life energy and a love of entertaining in grand style. I don’t think at all before I spend money. I could probably use some fiscal restraint, but so far not in debt or anything, thank goodness. My financial motto seems to be Make More,… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

I always wanted more cardinal. My MC is zapping Aries style. Which is fine except I’ve got bollucks neptune squares and saturn health regime to juggle. which is less fun to surge ahead boldy where rams wish to create new worlds

whatevs
whatevs

i hear ya i’ve got some totally weird influx of ancestrally oriented malaises due to 4th house saturn on south node and the initial transition to new health regime was irritating time drain – did it as uranus left pisces and opposed my sun – but I’ve found now it’s more routine it’s enabling all the other things that’re going on – is giving strength. Thing with the energy of now is that it’s cyclic so even if you don’t feel like you’re rocking with hi fi now there will be a trigger later on when another planet crosses the… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

nwa. my comment to pegs is ‘awaiting moderation’ but I note you as a human library- with legs. interesting 4th house transit. I am housebound so I channel baking gods and allergy food flour sciences into creating super fuel food and uber bedroom studio dept. I just fear when I read about how solid and I know it’s critical, how foundation and home is atm, I need to be elsewhere. There is no balance I am trapped between exes, average friends and lives that aren’t me, but I am doing best I can. can feel this super kick ram style… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

LOL yeah you two could cause some trouble if you were allowed to mingle for too long – off to the moderator! conjures wonka visions thanks for remembering the legs – legless is an ancestral theme. your saturn transit sounds similar to my feelings of house arrest when saturn crossed my IC + you have mars as well so is lucky you’re yoga girl right now cos that must be insane – volatile? Neptune square sun is a good reality check if you’ve got saturn helping – home studio is such a perfect way to work it with saturn as… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

oooh i just noticed neptune AND mars as well? you have officially entered the hall of mirrors…

Ms.
Ms.

no surgery yet. which is great. It will be a sadder story on paper if I type out actual full story health thing and I don’t want sympathy cause I am actually on this and there is no need to get all fucked up about it, so, I’m sorry for cryptic secrecy. I am only housebound for reasons of rest and finance juggle-not because I am mega ill. I’m looking hot now! so good to have it back, cleaning all this shit out of my body. My eyes are changing back to bright blue. I think I am knowing for… Read more »

bun
bun

Cancer rising makes an exact square with pluto in libra (both 19 degrees) and pluto squares venus in capricorn at 11 degrees. This is why I love your blog, mystic! I never thought about the significance of a natal cardinal square before. I have always thought it odd that people can be intimidated by me, and even though I love people and being social (Moon in libra, Aquarius sun – I could talk underwater), I have always wound up being the outsider or the loner to a certain extent. It works for me though, because I am the person who… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

LOVE your mindset bun LOVE IT

Pegasus
Pegasus

On Astrodienst on page 4 of your personal chart, there
is MAJOR Aspects columns. This means that some squares
are MINOR then. If so then my 9 squares are reduced to 3
and far more trines & sextiles…phew! a bit more subtle, was
getting tired from all the lessons.

saggibee
saggibee

How do you get to page four of your personal chart? I cant seem to find this!

Pegasus
Pegasus

Saggi, my print out chart is 4 years old (yup that’s how long
ive been looking at it) so astrodienst layout has changed since
then. It’s the last page.

Charley
Charley

Wacka wacka Zap Zone.

Uranus Sq MC
Uranus Conjunct ASC
Uranus Opp Jupiter
Jupiter Opp Mercury
Jupiter Opp Venus
Saturn Conjunct Venus
Plus the early degree cardinal houses, Pluto has been hammering my 4th house since 2008, I’ve essentially been homeless the entire time and now it’s swinging into my 7th. That’s not to mention the Junos and the Lilliths and the Vetexes of the world all in early Libra. Schawing.

Charley
Charley

Obvs not all of this is bad per say, just feeling it hard and apparently awake at 3.45am thinking about this far too much. Again!

whatevs
whatevs

god are you the girl my friend married suddenly for a few weeks last month?

juno lilith vertex opposed by lilith and uranus right now?

whatevs
whatevs

hey hang on – I was thinking ooo la la no zap zone for me cos I got no cardinal squares but if transiting uranus and pluto are squaring and you have cardinal planets or points then you’re having a transit zap zone?

So the rest of us get to channel Gypsy-Lee for a while?

Charley
Charley

Yes, transit Zap.

I have no personal, natal Zappage (I forgot my Cap MC is Square my Lib Jup + Saturn almost exact) at the level of Gyspy but a stupid amount of Libra, an Aries ASC + Cap MC all prime degrees to get Zapped so yay me.

whatevs
whatevs

are you fizzing tho? Like everything’s a homeopathic dose right now? I am LOVING this vibe it’s like the world suddenly caught up with me – transiting uranus and sun opposed my natal uranus sun on MC/IC on the full moon and it was like I got hit by lightning – now I know how other people feel round me LOL – startled / ennervated. Is like my chart has trip wires all over the place right now. Is transiting saturn on your jupiter or saturn tho? on the descendant or ascendant? Could be great for your studies charley –… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

How exhilarating for you…buzzing & fizzing away 🙂

Charley
Charley

I really am fizzing! I love that, perfectly explains it! Hope you have something good to channel the fizz into, it feels like that kind of energy that needs a place to go. For me everything is up in the air as usual but I can almost taste change that’s going to be very real this time. There’s potential but also with some kind of staying power since Saturn did it’s thing returning. I was lucky, early degrees of Saturn in Lib only exact for 2 weeks!! I have friends who have it just kicking off for 14 months, how?

whatevs
whatevs

yes yes! It all feels SUPERREAL I can’t work out how I’m handling it but I am. Nothing seems to happen in isolation now and nothing is slow – I’m actually looking forward to mercury retro in some ways – time to regroup finger’s crossed it doesn’t get ugly in the macro. and god yes 14 months of saturn return how indeed – 2 weeks? that seems supernatural, mine was about a year. I liked mine tho it was monastic – i got rid of men who were only there for sex and I worked a lot – mine’s in… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

give em a glove and nothing more!! 😉

Lauren
Lauren

Yep, it’s the half pyramid thingy. The symbols (glyphs) of the planets run along the top, so to find out if any of your planets are aspected to one another, you look at the column under one planet and the row that corresponds to another planet. So for an example, to find out what planets have an aspect to the Sun, you’d scan down the column under it. If there is an aspect http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrology-symbols-glyphs.html then look to the right and the planet that is listed at the end of that row is then aspected to the Sun. The strongest aspects… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

Lauren & Whatevs, NOW i get it. Lights Action Camera!
You have both given me much to figure now, at last. A bow of gratitude 🙂
Sheesh this is getting to be an exact meta-science.
Coupla squares with Chiron in Pluto & Saturn, Lill’s clear
& a square in mean Node, Saturn again.
Fascinating. ‘Know thyself’ (then buy 72 Derwents.)

whatevs
whatevs

You have SO channeled your squares in a constructive way pegs – what are your lilith and chiron in? any pisces/12th house or scorpio/8th house placements of those? Have you stopped working now? You were talking about it a while ago and I felt a bit sad about it. What’s the next phase of your super tantra vibe? God soz ina dvance for this I am SO inquisitive and talkative at the moment – it’s bizarre, talking to strangers etc. Seriously out of the shell.

Lauren
Lauren

Only thing I don’t know about (well, there are more than a few things I don’t know about) are the numbers and letters (A or S) in the grid boxes. Are these numbers the ones that refer to the strength of the aspect, that whatevs mentioned, where the strongest aspect is the closest to 0? What if the number is negative? I have Jupiter square Chiron at 0 with an “S” under it. I have NN square Asc at -1 with an “A” under it. Those are the closest squares to 1. Are these the ones I should look to… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

It was Ms I think who mentioned it up above – I think the S is separating but I’m in the dark about that too – I only just realised what the quintiles were when she mentioned hers. I always just ignored the Q’s is like she opened up a whole corner of my chart I had totally overlooked.

Ms.
Ms.

LOVE QUINTILES 🙂

blame mystic she has been lilith posting and I only noticed her in my chart later cause I was trying to get head around the rest of it 😉

so many rad astro fiends here. thankyou

Lauren
Lauren

Where are the other posts about quintiles? I did a search on here and found nothing and there’s not a tag for it. I’ve never looked for them before I have two: Venus in Scorpio (11th house) Q Virgo in Saturn (8th house), and Jupiter in Leo (8th house) Q MC (which is Libra 18 degrees 02). I read that Quintiles designate where your “gifts” are, but I don’t know how to interpret beyond that. On astrocafe I read that the first quintile could mean I have a strong appreciation for individual music and artistic styles and that it’s easy… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

no it was me and whatevs chatting somewhere it came up re lilith cause I had some and was curious, think its under marilyn actually… x

Ms.
Ms.

mystic mentioned it once- separating and approaching? its a technical thing. I guess like wax wane? yes they will be strongest exact and anything after that lesser so. easier with trines and conjunctions cause its just the degree of planet in other element and how far the numbers are off

weathergirl
weathergirl

Jumping in… They are referred to as “applying” and “separating”. And yes, Ms. and Virgo Squared is on to the idea: applying aspects will have a “waxing” effect, and separating will have “waning” effects.

This is usually really subtle information from a chart. Surely not the first thing anyone looks at. Definitely more important to event or horary astrology.

Ms.
Ms.

for sure. weathergirl and virgo squared. I am babe in woods in the finer points so all info is good. getting the basics down is key first though agreed xx

Virgo Squared
Virgo Squared

hello Lauren and whatevs, I think the A is aspecting; the two planets are coming together (into aspect). S is separating; the planets are moving apart (out of aspect). The number is the number of degrees off being an exact aspect. 0 would be exact. The negative (I think) eg NN square Asc -1 ‘A’ means they are 89 degrees apart (90 – 1 = 89 degrees).
I hope this makes some kind of sense. It did while I was typing it!

Virgo Squared
Virgo Squared

hello Ms. too (oops!!!)

whatevs
whatevs

cute

whatevs
whatevs

thank you so much – i could never work out that number thing.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Total of 9 squares including nodes, asc., chiron, lillith.
Forced growth? Trials & tribulations to give you lessons
& wisdom?
7 pyramids. Trines right? All planets above the horizon ‘cept Uranus
one house below. How my doing?

whatevs
whatevs

you’re on the boil pegs – so the planets in the table at the bottom which shows all the squares (that’ll be why you like circles : o) are any of those planets then listed in the little table on the bottom left in arise libra cancer or capricorn? Yes arise was a typo but I like it so it stays. If any of the planets with the squares to each other are in any of those signs then you have some cardinal square action going on. and would be fascinated to know if your north node, lilith and chiron… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

great 🙂

I (am a geek) and printed a brief intro : aspects section of astrodienst and pinned it next to my chart so I can see what something is when I want to cross reference.

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_elements_e.htm

also when I want to know something I google it
failing that I ask whatevs as she is a library with legs

whatevs
whatevs

is handy our charts are so similar – me having recently had the transits you’re about to have makes it easy to answer your questions but thanks appreciate the compliment – is nice relevant feedback due to planned career manouvres.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Shall attempt to look at chart as this is where i am to learn about Astrology, tho’ more into the Archetypal & Psyche aspects of ‘The God’s & Goddess’s’ images that have been collected into world conciousness. Logical? Ms made it seem so easy & ALL the past info is right here, but my conzentration doesn’t include geometry. I just stare at the chart & hope one day the penny will drop & i will understand it in a flash. What fuquing squares. Where? On the half pyramid slope graph thing that’s along side the natal placements? There is squares… Read more »

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

I don’t have much of a zap zone. Cancer in Jupiter and Venus and Capricorn in Uranus, Saturn and Neptune. I have Venus opposition Saturn? Not the same as square but I think it’s another hard aspect? The rest of it is complimentary.

My squares are with my Fixed signs. Sun in Leo squared Mars and Taurus and square Scorpio in Pluto. Interesting stuff!

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

Mars in* Taurus.

Pegasus
Pegasus

What was the question? Gypsy Rose Lee? Whatta Woman! Remember my Mother adored her (she born 1927) & had her books ‘n other stuff around. She took me to the first Live Nude ShowGirl caberet in Melba. Nudes in ’63 had to stand statue still to be legal, no movement whatsoeva. She probably loved Gypsy as a type of role model of a strong woman who worked with men & both were ambitious. It was a private joke in my family (as i used to be a dancer) that i wouldn’t do a ‘Gypsy Rose Lee’ and to make it… Read more »

Glow
Glow

My 4 cap planets all square my libra MC. Saturn is the closest. Yum yum.

Amir
Amir

lol in Cap:P

whatevs
whatevs

you gotta look for things in the other cardinal signs – aries, libra, cancer too – to see if anything’s “squaring” those planets. and do you live on a boat or have ancestors who were naval / sailors / explorers or fishermen? Or do you have a “weird” house? or did you move around a lot in childhood? Or you have more curtains and drapes than most people have in their houses? Soz if these seem like weird questions but your 4th house evokes some interesting themes and images and I have gemini ascendant so I can’t help but bombard… Read more »

Amir
Amir

so…sun 17, uranus 14, neptune 16? All in 4th

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

right feeling so zapped, I had to check this out and the only cardinal square in my natal chart is MC Cancer 25 and Chiron Aries 19…. that dosnt make sense to me considering the information above advising to look at the cardinals with early degrees… In any case I feel zapped, its really the best way to put it… lots of deep dirges, or is that durges, internal sorting out…. Just decided to make some space internally and lie on the earth post shower and do a meditation, you know one of those lovely ones where I realise the… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

your words are so provocative and telling another diaphanous layer of story – still waters run deep – chiron in the 6th can find healing via activities that are 12th house or piscean aligned. It also indicates “pseudo platonic” relationships where the angle of intimacy is sometimes left unacknowledged leaving the person with this aspect feeling unfulfilled – this i am paraphrasing and not saying because I’ve observed anything like this from your words but I love the way you’ve chosen the earth as a way to express the love you feel even if those around you aren’t available. Your… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

oh and cheers to all the good grandads out there – you don’t know how important you are.

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

yes… it has been a blessing for me to have a beautiful grandfather… when all else patriachal is equal to the sins of our fathers… I was blessed with a gentle, humble, patient and brave grandfather…

whatevs
whatevs

i realised after writing that I have chiron in aries as well and also my grandad was the awesome male figure in my childhood. although as an adult I can see his flaws clearly and that he was definitely human but he so made my world a better place at an important time. So i wonder if chiron in aries = grandfather figures?

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

yes diaphonous transparency is one of my greatest assets or downfalls depending on how it rolls a the time! I really want to take stock of what you said about chiron finding healing through 12th house or pisces…. I have pluto and uranus in 12th in Libra – generational, and mars and moon in pisces… hard placements for pisces I have heard, but Im learning how to integrate and propagate these qualities. So interesting you use the word ‘platonic’ because it has been the dominant adjective in my descprition of relationships for quite some time… I totally value platonic relationship… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

x you’re welcome, it was you that said it tho – i just responded. There’s a new edition of the book with the 2012 stuff in it but the old one has all the same natal and transit stuff. I would love to do a workshop with her – that would shift some stuff for sure.

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

PG, just wanted to pop in ~ very interesting about the crown chakra, thanks, very interesting food for thought ! Very much agree with the Earth connection you feel. On occasion I will unplug all the electrical and light candles, quietly read a book. *bliss* Looking forward to the warm nights so I can sleep under the stars… all the best~

Equilibrium Girl
Equilibrium Girl

Ooh, this is me!!!! I am a Zap Zone (maybe I should change my name? Equi Zap Zone Girl?) Sun 8 Cap Pluto 9 Libra MC 11 Kataka Asc 20 Libra Venus 21 Cap Chiron 19 Aries Throw in Saturn 15 Kataka opp Merc 14 Cap for laughs Moon sitting up there at 28 Kataka too. I’m a mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yet I still smile when I say that, like I have this feeling of inevitiabilty that it will all work out for the best, like i will conquer. Have always felt that, ever since a wee melancholic child in my… Read more »

FireyBovine
FireyBovine

EQUIZZGRL!!

weathergirl
weathergirl

FOLKS NOTE: the first TEN degrees of Cap/Lib/Aries/Cancer is what’s in the HOT Zap Zone this year.

I’ll match you EQGirl:

Sun 6 Cap
Uranus 3 Lib
Jupiter 4 Lib
NN 5 Aries

All active now. Very active. Totally grok the shedding of fear/self-loathing, etc. thanks to Sir Pluto.

Saturn
Moon
Merc = all cardinal, too, but in what Robert Wilkinson calls the “Grand Irrationality” –a series of septile degrees active right now. Loads of instinct in the GI. Har. Should be called the “Gut Response” zone. Nothing makes practical sense, but you make the choice anyway.

Good luck EQG.

Equilibrium Girl
Equilibrium Girl

Oooh! I like it! You got me thinking.
I feel a name change a-coming…

Once was Stress Princess, then Equililbrium Girl, now – – –
Zap Girl?
Cap Zappa?
The Zapped?
Zap Zone Cap?
Cappa Zappa? (okay, now I’m starting to sound like a coffee.)

piscesienne
piscesienne

Heehee, EQG – Cappa Zappa is great! Channeling a Frank Zappa vibe, which is probably quite appropriate. Or CapZaptastic …

Good luck with the Zap!

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

The Capp zone?

Charley
Charley

I feel very similar! Got a ton being Zapped but have a weirdly hopeful and kind of electric, excited, don’t stop now feeling despite being homeless, jobless, loveless, childless and totally broke. Or maybe I’ve finally just gone nuts, either way here’s to that feeling it’s good.

whatevs
whatevs

no! not nuts – that’s the thing with uranus you gotta commit to being non-committal about stereotypes and preconceived notions – they’re cobwebs. Is about revolution. Winds of change. Lightning rods. Childless as a possible link to insanity and a perceived con is interesting. Overcrowding is one of the planet’s problems.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Princess, you are reaching a stage of development
where outside influences don’t rock your core. Be very
proud of yourself.
Arousal & awakedness are rather similar in effect both are
creative energy at work & play.

Bluesky
Bluesky

That’s a fantastic description of what my experience is. You nailed it. It’s such a relief (?) to know others can get this exact complex assortment of feelings. I only just realized I had a cardinal square in my chart. Maybe these feelings you describe are indeed related to that, since we share a square:) Though mine involves Moon-North Node and Mars-Jupiter. Argh. But ever the optimist despite near constant setbacks. Tho last couple of weeks I’ve been low with the full moon in my sign and whatever it is that’s going on this week. Glad you can say self-loathing… Read more »

thora
thora

i have my rising (1 capricorn) square my mercury (0 libra). i have other squares, but that’s the only cardinal square.

no idea what it means…

balancing
balancing

My main natal square and thankfully the only Cardinal one is
Sun in Aries 12 th house
Moon in Cancer 3rd

try dealing with that sucker!

JenKatakaAqua
JenKatakaAqua

Sun in Cancer (6th) square Uranus in Libra (8th) and Chiron in Aries (2nd.) I’m crap at the interpretations, so if anyone has insight I’m all ears! 🙂

Ms.
Ms.

confused chart peeps. go to a site that is very mentioned here called astrodienst http://www.astro.com don’t complain this sounds hard because it just takes having site infront of you to get it, describing an action without it visually in front of you always sounds complex, tis not hard if you apply logic and non lazy can do sniffing make a profile -it’s free (that means add your details when asked ie/ DOB time location) go to free section astro (its easy to find/do you just have to do it and use logical brain) there is a calculate “natal chart” (thats… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

MS, you beautiful woman you 🙂
Hope all novice mystic’s appreciate your time
& assistance,
bless your black heart & red lips.
x

Ms.
Ms.

hehe. I replied below. glad the gang got you chart savvy xxx

whatevs
whatevs

ha! high five

GeorgeSand
GeorgeSand

Ms. — excellent advice. I’d also incorporate visiting Cafe Astrology into your education.

whatevs
whatevs

yeah i think they so much less gothic more conversational but equally amazing resource them + mystic are my triad and I cruise the aquarius papers when I feel like a voyage on the oceans they’re my 4 tried and true astro picks.

Ms.
Ms.

cafe astro is good. as is this site actually some of the comments (and the good lady mystic herself) KIM as well brilliant. but they need a chart first before they can sniff aspects 😉 x

Amir
Amir

I have no idea how to do this lmao:/ I’m a noob

Steph
Steph

My Sun/Moon square, late Taurus/early Pisces. I was born in a “love” zap zone, Aries being squared by Jupiter in Cancer, then Saturn-Uranus-Neptune in Capricorn.

My tightest is the 16deg Venus-14deg Neptune, and boy does that hit hard. Delusions in love, seeing too far past the crap the person actually is… On the other hand, it makes for some amazing surreal art, no? Or is that just my Merc trining Neptune?

Jac
Jac

Saturn at 3 deg Cancer
Moon 5 deg Cap,
Pluto 6 deg Libra,
Uranus 25 degrees Libra, Mars 25 degrees Libra,
Mars 25 degrees Aries,
Venus 21 degrees Cap,

I don’t know a lot about this…. so I would love and appreciate some Zap Zone insights xo

FireyBovine
FireyBovine

I don’t get it – aries merc @ 29/libran moon @ 27 … but according to tables and visually this is an opposition? am missing something …

Ms.
Ms.

no shit I was just looking up her chart last night after the same russh post as I was dead curious to know her astro.

andromeda
andromeda

Venus in Cancer Square Pluto in Libra. In the 4th.

Not really understanding how it relates to my life? It’s a dark looking aspect from what I have read.

andromeda
andromeda

Just checked Mr. Sasportas and he says Pluto in the fourth may indicate a deep love of the natural world – I do love diving. Okay, now Venus in Cancer likes things cosy and warm – so the square? Clearly it is me preferring a hot bath in epsom salts and aromatic oils.

Stella
Stella

Sun square Pluto here. I create and make things (including companies) and then have a temptation to destroy them. Ultimately I don’t destroy but transform but the process is intense and exhausting for anyone close to me who just doesn’t get the square vibe. Truth be told, it exhausts me too, especially as I get older.

quapricoro
quapricoro

OMG hey checked daily scope for pisces – I am so happy for you lot!!!
🙂

whatevs
whatevs

I have only one cardinal square and it’s not even proper – saturn square vertex but right now I’m all about BRING IT.

Charley
Charley

Not a square in sight or a trine, I am conjunction/sextile woman.

GeorgeSand
GeorgeSand

Oh like me: mainly trines and sextiles. Are you of the lazy Scorpio tribe too?

Lauren
Lauren

I do have some squares, even though I am of the Lazy Scorpio Tribe.

Sun in Scorp square Jupiter in Leo
Moon in Virgo square Mars in Scorp
Jupiter in Leo square Uranus in Scorp
Neptune in Sagg square Saturn in Virgo
NN in Virgo square Sagg Asc
Sun in Scorp square Lilith in Leo
Jupiter in Leo square Chiron in Taurus

I’m not sure what all that means, still trying to understand the influence of squares. Hopefully if still gives me a reason to be lazy, lol.

year of the fox
year of the fox

My Sun in Libra is squared by my North Node in Cap which is squared by my Chiron in Aries. So the way i naturally am conflicts with who i should try to be to achieve my destiny for this life. But by the same arrangement my sun also squares my south node too, who I was in my past life. So anytime i try to act like my North or South node, it aggravates my Chiron in Aries.

Plum
Plum

Yes. Saturn (in Cancer) square Pluto (in Libra) – although I guess anyone the same age as me would have this – but mine is also caught up with the nodes if that makes a difference. Then Moon (in Cap) square Venus/Uranus (in Libra). Is Moon/Venus a mother/child thing? Wasn’t very close to my mum as a child, although I love her very much and we’re good friends now. Also ambivalent towards the idea of having my own children. Do sort of relish being up against it if it brings about change and forward movement – that’s happened these last… Read more »

fushiafairy
fushiafairy

sun conjunct saturn in cancer in 11th. Sun and saturn square jupiter in aries in 8th. Saturn square uranus in 2nd. Cardinal T-square. Fun stuff let me tell you. The last few weeks have been some of the hardest of my entire life. no exaggerating.

fushiafairy
fushiafairy

oh…..juno in cancer in 11th square pluto in libra in 2nd….that explains alot.

Girl
Girl

Well, not sure if mine counts but I have pluto (libra) 16 deg square Asc (Cap) 13 deg (two other squares but not all in the right signs). No idea what that means regarding my biggest irritation though.

But either way, if this is the Zap Zone I’m loving it. Seriously, that whole devil may care thing I had until about 18 has just come right back. It’s awesome. I really missed that girl!

GeorgeSand
GeorgeSand

Weird. I have no squares of any kind. Might this explain why I’m boring…?

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

As in…not tortured??

whatevs
whatevs

LOL – there’s enough tortured souls I suspect you’re in some way blessed as opposed to boring.

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

At the very least, you are a must have- friend for people with overactive drama in their lives.

That is valuable, not boring.

GeorgeSand
GeorgeSand

I do tend to attract those sorts. 😉

whatevs
whatevs

so you’re like groundcrew – you get to talk them down off their ledges etc. that can get boring tho – i see what you mean.

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

Make sure they treat you as valuable, not boring.

Or else they are unhealthy narcisists….not just peeps with a lot of drama….

Lauren
Lauren

I also have no cardinal squares, and the only planet I have in a cardinal sign is Pluto in Libra. I think absence of this might be further proof of the “lazy” aspect in my chart. I like lazy rather than boring. I’m more “go with the flow” than “charge against the stream”. Just can’t get motivated enough to climb those mountains and the effort to do so seems to take SO MUCH energy, which is always in short supply to begin with.

GeorgeSand
GeorgeSand

I suspect that’s where my laziness, or rather my complacency, comes in. The only cardinal sign I have is my moon in Cap. People too think I’m of the go with the flow vibe where actually I’m just too lazy to be bothered. Lol!

piscesienne
piscesienne

Hahaha, I thought I would also have no cardinal squares, being of the mutable ‘go with the flow’ tribe, but no. I have:

Asc @ 4 Libra
Jupiter @ 9 Cap
Neptune @ 1 Cap … with my asc squaring both of them. I’m hoping that puts me in the ‘Zap-ish’ Zone, rather than than a full blown ZAP.

piscesienne
piscesienne

Hmmm, I should read more closely – according to WG, it’s the first ten degress that are in the hot zone of the ZZ. Fun times ahead! *begins to crawl into bed*

Lauren
Lauren

*hands her a steaming cup of jasmine tea to ease into the zone* 😉

piscesienne
piscesienne

Ah, thanks Lauren – that is a brilliant idea. In fact, I’m going to have some now. Uni reading can wait, or read itself!

Hippychic
Hippychic

Het GS I can share I have plenty.

Jupiter 18 libra
Mars 18 cap
Sun 21 libra
Ascen 21 Aries
CHiron 3 aries
Venus 2 libra
Uranus 5 libra
Mercury 8 Libra

I say you pick that lovely mars square jupiter – I give it to you freely with LUURVE.
I now officially feel better about being a mess!
I think I shall start looking for cave rentals available mid year!!

Hippychic
Hippychic

oh yes and my MC at 24 cap

yes lovely having the MC AC IC and DC cross in the cardinals just to give it that extra ZING with the ZAP!!

OH and Fopar SUN 25 Libra not 21

GeorgeSand
GeorgeSand

Wow! I’m exhausted just reading your line up. 🙂

Pegasus
Pegasus

Is that faux pas for real? Or taking the mickey 🙂

Hippychic
Hippychic

OH sorry I think phonetically (I am numerically minded), did I write something wierd?

I should stick to simple it is probably the best at the moment.

boo boo – Yes my sun is at Libra 25 not Libra 21.

Saturn knows
Saturn knows

Holy cow hippychic!! That’s intense. I just have Cap Asc squaring my Venus in cardinal but my whole chart is full of squares. I have energy and drive to burn but getting a bit lazy in my old age. Are you a go-getter?

Hippychic
Hippychic

I am going to write that on a peice of paper and stick it to the wall “äre you are go-getter” Not at all, though I was when I was younger (maybe pre saturn return). I really need to be though there are opportunities everywhere at the mo and I’m just like a big lump who needs to nap after contemplation. I acheived two huge things in the last week that I have been trying to do for ages, one of them 2 years, it took heaps to get there. You think I would be thrilled to bits, jumping around… Read more »

weathergirl
weathergirl

Yeah. You’re feelin’ it. Find a nice cool cave. :mrgreen:

Lauren
Lauren

You can stay at Chez Lazy Scorpio. We hold our meetings in deep caves with tranquil subterranean pools of cool clear water, far away from anyone or anything that would put any demands on our precious energy reserves or offend our delicate sensitivities. 😉

Hippychic
Hippychic

Thankyou, I am a champ at the chill, I think that I could be a member of your tribe.

I don’t pace
I don’t whistle
I don’t notice mess, therefore I don’t tidy
I can sleep anyway, anytime, under just about any circumstance
I love tranquility and peace
I am not pushy

🙂 AM I IN?

Hippychic
Hippychic

I forgot – I am NEVER bored. I can do nothing for eons.

Lauren
Lauren

Wow! You’ll fit right in then! :mrgreen: I see you have Sun in Libra and an Aries Rising. Is your Moon in a water sign?

Hippychic
Hippychic

Alas no – Aqua moon

The only water I have is neptune scorp and Pisces NN.

Bluesky
Bluesky

I don’t think it means you are boring:) I had the reverse realization (and can’t believe I didn’t notice until now…in fact, feel idiotic!) I have a cardinal square in my chart. NO WONDER!!!!! And I’m not sure I think this has made current cardinal squares easier. The only thing I can think of in alignment with this theory is that friends tell me they can’t believe I’m handling things “so well.” Hmm (not sure I am…). I know I’m strong, but also know I’ve struggled to do everything I’ve done over last few years and can’t say strength and… Read more »

Hippychic
Hippychic

Wow bluesky, you just wrote what my heart feels but I havn’t been able to express exactly why I feel so crap and numb when everyone thinks I am a shining light (what are they seeing?!!)

You put it perfectly.

Bless you hon, I feel exacatly that, so heavily now I am a robot, but I think that the ending part of the muck raking and prep feels worse so the fresh start of the cleansed new path can’t be far away.

Much magic to you, align with your heart and you will evenually reap the rewards that are perfect for you.

xoxo

Bluesky
Bluesky

Is that where we are? The end of the muck raking? I’d like to think the end of this crap is in sight!

It’s funny but when you said align with your heart, I first read it as “align with your chart.” I was wondering if you had some wonderful system for doing that!:) But, yes, still feel like the only compass I have is my heart and my conscience or whatever that thing is deep inside. It’s all I got.

Angie Lane
Angie Lane

I am so confused by my chart. If I tell you my info can you tell what you are talking about?

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

A nice quick shortcut is visiting Astrodienst….

Charley
Charley

Or Cafe Astro, gives a good overall explanation and list of all your planets, aspects, houses etc http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

Ya- I like their write ups!

AquaCrab
AquaCrab

I noticed that their system is a bit different from Astrodienst.com. It throws my houses off, and even puts my MC/IC/DC in different signs. It’s beyond a difference in house system choice, as those usually leave the 4 major points in the same position/degree.

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