Five Rules From The Chief Virgoan Of Fashion

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Chief Virgoan Of Fashion has told Another Magazine his Five Supreme Rules Of Style, Fashion, Etiquette etc.  Adhering to their own personal guidelines of chic is just one of several reasons why Virgoans dominate the fashion world these days. Standards, obsessive-compulsive disorder and details mania. Works a treat.

1. You should put on the best version of yourself when you go out in the world because that is a show of respect to the other people around you.

2. A gentleman today has to work. People who do not work are so boring and are usually bored. You have to be passionate, you have to be engaged and you have to be contributing to the world.

3. Manners are very important and actually knowing when things are appropriate. I always open doors for women, I carry their coat, I make sure that they’re walking on the inside of the street. Stand up when people arrive at and leave the dinner table.

4. Don’t be pretentious or racist or sexist or judge people by their background.

5. A man should never wear shorts in the city. Flip-flops and shorts in the city are never appropriate. Shorts should only be worn on the tennis court or on the beach.

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Hikari
Hikari

1. You should put on the best version of yourself when you go out in the world because that is a show of respect to the other people around you. – Context and perspective are everything. You do not put on a diamond necklace to go to the beach. 2. A gentleman today has to work. People who do not work are so boring and are usually bored. You have to be passionate, you have to be engaged and you have to be contributing to the world. _ One does not need to work to have an occupied mind, and… Read more »

Earth Taurus
Earth Taurus

OMG thats what I think about shorts! I never where shorts when I hit the city. I wear shorts only at home or in Suburban and at the beach.

suzie
suzie

If you open doors for women and not for men, then that’s sexist, right?

billyd
billyd

Live by #1. The gentleman & manners stuff sound a bit foppish. Shorts in the city, why not if you have the legs? Flip flops in the city, never – dirty feet and much potential for injury. And BTW, that beard ain’t working.

Charley
Charley

I love these rules. I’m entirely obsessed with manners, cleanliness, properness and chivalry. Despite Sag moon/mars that whole casual thing does not do it for me at all, my Libra stellium just washes it all away. I swear I’m a secret Virgo.

Where I come from people wear flip flops and shorts all year round but it’s stupid because despite what they want to believe we are NOT in the tropics or Australia. It just looks weird and cold.

Becky Williams
Becky Williams

What is a gentleman? I have yet to meet one. I do agree that working is a must, a man needs a passion and a goal in life and sitting on his backside all day won’t cut it for me.

Becky

Becky blogs her wedding and wedding insurance experience at

Bluesky
Bluesky

The working part spoke to me the most, too. Or at least a passion.

Mari
Mari

My husband meets Tom Ford’s qualifications for gentlemanliness on every score. Perhaps it should make me smile, but it does.

Mari
Mari

NOT make me smile. Sigh. I should not post with a giant cat in my lap.

Bluesky
Bluesky

I had a cat who always wanted to sit on the keyboard (or on anything work related that I had to do…sewing was impossible with that cat around)

year of the fox
year of the fox

#5 would never work for my city. Clearly he has never lived close enough to the equator. I think it would work for a more temperate area.

Manners would be awesome! I wish parents would understand school is not there to teach your kids manners. I’m sure they can reinforce it, but it has to be taught in the first place.

Bluesky
Bluesky

YES!!!!! I want to marry this man!!!! I am more of a gentleman than my ex. I will hold doors for people and pay attention to details of etiquette no matter what the sex. And I expect the same. It’s one of my inner rules that I will only consider men who open a car door for me. ONLY. It’s not that running out to the grocery store together a person has to run round and let me out, but on a date absofuqinglutely. Esp. here in southern US, if a man isn’t at least attempting to do this, he… Read more »

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

oh, honey, I hear ya. My ex, opened doors for me when we first met, and though I did love him, he slowly regressed to neanderthal man.
Would. not. ever. cover his mouth when he sneezed.
Drove. me. bonkers.

Bluesky
Bluesky

You poor thing! How can anyone not cover their mouth/nose when they sneeze? Isn’t that 2nd nature???

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

(nods) I know, right!?! Projectile eew.
I’m an Earth mama, dirt is okay, and I follow the 5 second ground rule…but honey I draw the ____ at projectile germs across the entire room, that’s just gross !

Agreed about the ‘red-flags’…love the Maya Angelou quote…”When people tell you who they are believe them the first time.”

Charles
Charles

I am not prepared to take fashion advice from some OCD Virgo who obviously shaves his cheekbones so the top of his beard is squared off.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Dunno.

First makes sense, but would it not be better if you do it for yourself? Second is his arrogance. Manners depend on context. Fourth is redundant, can he claim otherwise? Fifth depends on age: too young or too old to care.

This week’s astro Sun-square-Pluto and Jupiter-opposing-Saturn, I have all stamped on my natal chart. That must be why realizations are hitting me like bricks.

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

These rules are embodied by French gentlemen. And i love it. But behind closed doors they are anything but, with my full backing, there’s nothing like it in Australia 🙂

But as for no shorts/flip flops away from the beach – he hasn’t lived in in the topics/Queensland – not that I’m comfortable with such in the inner city, there is a standard; however climate rules override outdated imported fashion values.

bones and roses
bones and roses

I agree with you FF. Tom lives in London. I’m sure it never gets disgustingly hot and humid there like it does in the tropics and even in Sydney!

He can get stuffed!

I live in the inner city and heaps of peeps wear shorts and flip flops in summer. Nobody cares when it’s hot. It’s kinda expected.

Bluesky
Bluesky

yes, I think in London shorts would be unsightly. But think they are a natural fit in a tropical environment. I wonder what he would wear in a Caribbean city, for example? Long white trousers? Hmm. Would seem too fussy. Maybe he was being a bit parochial when he thought up the “rules.”

year of the fox
year of the fox

No, he would be the pale guy who wears too much clothing, turns red in the heat and passes out from heat stroke. :/ It would take him like 15 min outdoors to do this even in April where I live. Fashion was never designed to take off in the devil’s sweaty arm pit.

bones and roses
bones and roses

“Fashion was never designed to take off in the devil’s sweaty arm pit.”

😆

Mari
Mari

Neither my hubby nor I wear shorts, tank tops, or flip flops out and about town in the summer. We live in the central US where temps in Jul-Sep are usually over 90F/32C during the day. That said, I could care less if other people wear them or not, as long as they are at least reasonably dressed (men w/o shirts or women in bikini tops on the street or in the store is a bit much). However, I don’t care HOW hot and humid it is, I do not want to see a baby clothed only in a diaper… Read more »

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Wow, reading these posts I must wonder if I am the only one who has ever been victim of or witness to awful social class distinctions or even petty social politics via deployment of so-called manners. I have Lilith and Sapho on midheaven in sagg so I am probably just avowed against anything that might be orthodoxically good (Whatevs, I’m making up words too) if it can have unintended consequences that are bad. A false economy.
Am I flying solo with this line of thinking about manners?

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

No I don’t think you are flying solo there… I also find orthodox manners repressive, I used to wear a shirt that said ‘nice girls do spit’ we didn’t grow up on the edge of punk for nothing. however age wisdom and experience leads me to think that being oppositional just for the sake of it is fairly unproductive in any cause. love and awareness leads me to have my own set of social principles that could be viewed as conservative or restrictive, but that is okay with me as long as I know where I’m coming from. I still… Read more »

Libraquarius
Libraquarius

You’ve reminded me. Years ago I got into some arguments with a group of students over the Israel-Palestine conflict. I told one of them to fuq off and he said: “I never thought I’d hear the day when a lady used that language.” And so I said to him: “I’m not a lady, I’m a woman”. And I swear he recoiled more at the fact I was happy not to be a lady than the fact I’d dropped an f-bomb. Great fun, laughed my head off because he slunk off down the corridor totally speechless.

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

haha My Mom-in-law swore by spitting on bait before casting a reel. So I spit when hunting wild mushrooms in the spring. It’s an offering to the spirits of the woods ! 🙂

Bobby
Bobby

Stand up when people arrive at and leave the dinner table.

oops! the thought crossed my mind….i opted not to as not to seem too keen to impress with my knowledge of the manners.

Uber Virgo
Uber Virgo

Totally agree with all five points.

nat
nat

mwah! mwah! mwah! x Where is your gracious avatar (or new version) so we know its really you…

nat
nat

yes, as an Honorary Virgo In Training I should have picked up on the lack of tell-tale detail.

nat
nat

Und ver iz your Ümlaut?

Ms.
Ms.

oh my god i just typed that!

🙂

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Too good to be true. 🙁
Merc Rx Shadow play??

andromeda
andromeda

Ha ha, 4 & 5 are oddly juxtaposed, no?

4. Be thou not the judge of others regarding race, creed or social standing.

5. Wearest not thy short pants whilst in densely populated areas…

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Like everything in life, Virgos are astoundingly good at contradictions. x

andromeda
andromeda

Darn their overtalented cotton socks… (or do they just buy new ones?)

whatevs
whatevs

ooo aye me stellium is twitching – number 2 especially – although with less gender-specificity LOL is that even a word?

piscesienne
piscesienne

Yeah, I’d go with all of those – especially #4. As twinfish and Lauren said, that never goes out of style and quite frankly, there is something incredibly hot about a man who is open-minded, respectful (and who occasionally holds the door for you). The shorts, well, I dunno. I think it depends hugely on were one lives … in beachy towns, or places like Darwin or Alice, shorts are kind of necessary. The issue I have with man-shorts are the shorts that are T-I-G-H-T, have a rolled cuff and sit above the knee. Gentlemen, please. No-one, not even the… Read more »

Raga
Raga

Yes, And I’m a Pisces

leogroover
leogroover

i don’t thibk those rules are just Vigoan they should be standard but yes Virgos can uphold them better than others I would guess.

bubble
bubble

my mum always used to say bored people are boring people when i was a child … always. one always had to be on and entertaining around her. well in one way it was a good thing but also a bad thing … also agree about use of the word “approrpiate”.
i would like to ask lauren – in the us do you get the dole if u are unemployed ? how do u survive if you dont ? i am just curious and will respect it if you say MYOB ! 🙂

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

yes i kinda like that phrase only boring people get bored… because when there is nothing else to do, or be, there is always something fascinating to observe like when you are in meditation, the movement of the breath, the sounds, the feeling of the air on your skin… etc etc… however in saying this, I think that is quite a high level of skill or mastery to achieve. And there are very real limits to ‘enjoying’ life when poverty or illness, or any number of other social factors limit the way we interact with life. But that is why… Read more »

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

Am I the only one who isn’t offended by men wearing shorts? It certainly depends on the type of man wearing them and what the shorts actually look like, but most of the time I’m thrilled by it because it is so rare for me to see.

leogroover
leogroover

not many people look good in those long shorts. They do not suit peeps with short legs and long bods. I prefer jeans which makes everybody look slenderer than they maybe. and those golf type shorts – shoot me please.

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

It depends where you live. I assume Tom Ford lives in NYC or maybe London, where it would be inappropriate, but not in good ol’ Brisbalona, where I am.

aqauLEOlibra
aqauLEOlibra

Haha, have not heard the term Brisbalona, love it! Yes I agree with you L the L, love a man in taylored shorts. Been spotting a few out in our town lately, esp at night and there is something so sexy about sighting the bottom half of toned, sometimes tanned, manly legs. mmm mmmm

whatevs
whatevs

ooo really? I LOVE plus fours – they’re hilarious

Libraquarius
Libraquarius

I loathe the sort of shorts which are baggy and hang around a bloke’s calves. Appalling taste, absolutely appalling.

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

Yes, REVOLTING.

aquaLEOlibra
aquaLEOlibra

But tailored shorts to the knee which fit snugly around a mans butt…yes please!

Libraquarius
Libraquarius

Yeah, perve, perve, nudge, nudge, wink, wink 😀

idgamf
idgamf

I like 1 & 2

shell
shell

Rule 2?
A rule?
Pffffttttt
Couches are wasted on this man.

Furthermore one could argue that all that bloody feeling like one should always work is what got us in this busted capitalist economy mess in the first place.

You wanna revolution?
More time on the couch!
More time on the couch!

I’d go on but typing from my phone in a funny position on the couch because I can’t be bothered to get up and unplug it, is kind of uncomfortable.

shell
shell

And, um, don’t 2 and 5 kinda contradict 3 and 4?
Pffffttttt again.

whatevs
whatevs

funny i didn’t even think about it as “work” though clearly that’s what it says (saturn in the 10th has me thinking work is fun?) saw it more as just having something going on – a passione.

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

My new housemate let me look up her chart and she is uber virgo. Am so happy to be sharing with the smartest of earth signs and earthiest of smart signs. No offence the others.

Ms.
Ms.

5. should be a bulletin board in most of Australia and a taxable offense

I live by 3. 4.

and 1, when I am not I am unhappy and apathy has briefly hi-jacked me

nat
nat

Ms, was reading the Team Jupiter-Team Saturn post and thinking about your comment re how to release Jupiter from conjunct with Saturn (both in 3rd House in Virgo?). The following sprang to mind: * You learn structure, skills & discipline from Saturn in order to expand Jupiter’s philosophies/teaching about health, healing & nutrition (Virgo). This all takes time and years of polishing since Saturn is the slower moving of the two planets and applying to Jupiter. But that is no problem – it feels like its your life’s work or something that you want to work at. * You excercise… Read more »

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

I love that interpretation, Saturn just wants to teach us how to follow through.

Ms.
Ms.

Nat. Thank you, you have a very thought out manner that I wish I had at times. Saturn is not conjunct Jupiter (it is conjunct mars- I have stillenium in virgo) but I have been wondering how to liberate Jupiter as it seems I do not use it to fullest capacity. Apart from having a loud voice lol. I thought it might take the edge of the chiron aspects now and to come as my chiron is trine jupiter as well. It’s very true I am (re) becoming my own saviour for my health (auto immune/hormone) and nutrition is a… Read more »

nat
nat

oh sorry Ms, I misinterpreted the conjunct in question. Anyhoo, if you want to liberate Jupiter’s largess and optimism it might be via expanding the mind through travel, academia or philosophy; seeking the truth; teaching the truth; creating more; demonstrating ethics; broadcasting ideas. Jupiter House & Sign obviously give clues as to the what and the how. The trine between Jupiter and Chiron might work to unlock Jupiter’s largess & blessings through studying healing or some community service via nutrition. I’ll stop now 🙂

Ms.
Ms.

*same house but not conjunct

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

This fashionable Virgo couldn’t agree more with #5, my earliest memories are of a screaming tantrum refusing to wear shorts. Tis gospel. I love it. I also love men’s legs but a time and a place…

Ms.
Ms.

heehe totally + man feet in urban areas *shudder*

Stella
Stella

My Virgo moon absolutely loves it!

virgolicious
virgolicious

hell yeah. I’m ok with all of it, even 3, if only for the novelty value.

Steph
Steph

“People who do not work are so boring and are usually bored.”

So true. In the States, we’re in a boredom crisis where everybody is looking not to be bored/boring.

I consider 3 slightly sexist and silly, which is funny when you then read 4. But, yes, 4 all the way.

And 5: YES, and make that for women too. I think shorts outside of their appropriate surroundings (I consider “beachy” cities as part of the beach, like Miami) are just ick, no matter how sexy someone’s legs are. That may just be my leg fetish talking though…

Lauren
Lauren

Haha, I’m in the states, in the middle of an ongoing job hunt, and yes, I am bored. Terminal boredom is a problem when unemployment is running rampant. My “work” is now the constant revising of my resume and custom written cover letters, and then the obsessive email checking to see if there is any news on the latest work prospects. It’s very boring and repetitive and even my Virgo Moon has moments where all the attention to detail feels futile and a waste of time. I wonder if he considers it necessary for women to work as well, or… Read more »

Libraquarius
Libraquarius

You know, Lauren, this whole unemployment thingy raises the question of how are we going to move into the future and create futurist jobs? I don’t think we can act like children any more and wait for jobs to be made available for us. I feel strongly in this new era that community is building and that we, the people, need to be working out ways to support ourselves and others in our community and in the world community. Not sure how, but maybe we need to grow up and create our own jobs and not wait for some-one to… Read more »

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

hhheeee heee heeheheeeeeee.. gentlemen… Whats That? the last one I met was born in 1912, I didnt think they were made anymore….

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

I think “manners”, like acting the gentlemen for a woman, are crumbling because they turned out to be inappropriate behaviours in the new global chic order. So condescending. However showing a respect for others you share the world with never goes out of style. Or am I being romantic and boringly egalitarian again?

Re the flip-flops in the city, yes, unless he is Tom Sellick circa ’82.

Lauren
Lauren

I agree, that showing respect never goes out of style. I open doors for people of all sorts all the time, without thinking. Chivalrous behavior doesn’t really offend me. I don’t tend to expect it though either, so when it happens I’m usually surprised…sometimes pleasantly if it seems sincere and sometimes out of suspicious, as I distrust charm and flattery. 😉

Wah Gwan
Wah Gwan

whatever.

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

weirdly I like all those things this person is saying, in context, but after a couple of seconds I had a good laugh and thought about how bourgeois it is. I agree with Lauren below too, and I like to respect and consider people in my space in this way. And Im horrified by people who dont. I think at least if people are going to be pushy, they should smile and let people know they are in a hurry or something. I cant stand it when people just barge in front or into you and stuff like that, most… Read more »

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

on a bit of a rave… i know…

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