The Gemini In You

 

Sebastian Kim

We’ve all got Gemini going on in our charts someplace.

Even if you are not Gemini Rising, Gemini Moon or Sun in Gemini.

You could argue that the house cusp where you’ve got Gemini is where you’re conflicted, fickle and prone to puzzling about-faces.

That’s one of the trad views for sure.

But let’s say that where you’ve got Gemini going on is where you’re a double agent, easily able to access Mercurial-Trickster style energy, grok divine ambiguity and effortlessly vibe eloquent, on form and pertinent. You’re never stuck there.

How does that feel?

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SaturnRxGem
SaturnRxGem

Gems rock. I’m a Sun+Mercury Gem. Aries Rising and Moon in Sagg. The only grounding planet i have is Venus in Taurus… I hate the bad wrap we get; I don’t have a split personality, i just get really cerebral and like A LOT of time to myself – to think. I do have a ‘mask’ but only with people I don’t know well or don’t trust, and the mask is simply that they can’t tell what I am truly thinking or feeling. It’s easy for us to keep our own counsel and a lot of the time it’s not… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

mm yes not deliberately mean just finding the limits of the environs

VS
VS

I have jupiter in gemini and it S U C K S.

I meet the crazy people every time I go out, I have a revolving door policy for friends, and am the most scatterbrained learner you’ll ever meet (though I can whip out odd facts and theories that wow people once in a while).

The plus side is, things are always fresh and fun, and I have no trouble making new friends or plowing my way through books, languages, puzzles, etc

Herby
Herby

I have my Mid-Heaven in Gemini. Does anyone know what that might mean?

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

It can mean two jobs or careers at one time from what I understand. My Gem daughter has that MC…Sun in 10th (she was born 11:59 a.m…nearly high noon…I’ve always sorta liked that…) Virgo rising altho right now she works very part time and is mostly wife and mother. She’s itching for something more however. She got her degree in Art History and noone is exactly hiring for that right now (except she did give museum tours at one time and is an artist of music and painting, etc…Sun opposite Neptune). Is your rising Virgo Herby? I ask because I… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

As an aside, Pisces MC, being mutable as well and a double bodied sign, can often indicate more than one thing going on. Of course there is more meaning to those signatures/MC’s than just that however

Herby
Herby

That makes sense about two jobs or careers at one time. Yeah, I have Virgo rising as well as Sun. I have been working full time since the day I graduated from high school (I finished school at 12pm and started work at 2pm the same day). I’ve also been a full-time student since then with a few breaks between courses (I study by correspondence). Every time I start a new career (I’m 31 and I’ve been a traveling sales rep, labouror, electronics technician, paralegal, lawyer, beaurocrat and now eLearning professional) I start studying again to either get out or… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

~Maybe this time my cross-over job will be to finally start submitting my writing to be published in print rather than just writing online. Who knows …~

That would be cool!!

Bluesky
Bluesky

chatty out in the world:)

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

lol…yeah, if I did not have cap moon in 8th, doubt gem rising could do massage!

Herby
Herby

Sorry am so chatty today. Got no sleep last night … spent a few hours riding around on the bus my wife was driving, dinner of steak & mashed spuds at 11:30pm, time to digest such a heavy midnight meal and then …

And that was after working from 7am – 12:30pm and then going for a 5 hour motorbike in the heat.

I’m struggling to stay awake today and find that always makes me chatty (am definitely not an introvert). Have decided it’s a good day to do administrative crap at work πŸ˜‰

Bluesky
Bluesky

why apologize?! chat away

Bluesky
Bluesky

chatty out in the world:) broad minded, quick thinker about things philosophical or school related. could earn living with communications skills–use of electronics

Herby
Herby

Me? Chatty? Never πŸ˜€ *LOL*

Oh yeah … I love philosophy …

Bluesky
Bluesky

You could make money at it! Or contribute to cultural consciousness.

Herby
Herby

I prefer the latter πŸ™‚ To contribute to cultural consciousness … I mean, I would love to make money (Virgo … tight πŸ˜‰ ) but must be my Gemini Asc that demands I put my work out there to be read and enjoyed (or mulled over – because sometimes I write controversial things)

InchbyInch
InchbyInch

Gemini on the midheaven great for career in radio . . . like why not do a show on the unique experiences you’ve been through that you share with us here . . . you might be able to express it better “on the air” than in writing.

Bluesky
Bluesky

radio would be an interesting fit for you, but also the elearning seems perfect!

Herby
Herby

I was once interviewed on a queer radio program and loved it. It was heaps of fun. Reckon my wife would love it if I did something like that because I could use up my word count πŸ˜‰

eLearning is also good because I get to mix my logical brain with my creative brain and I get to write lots of words. I also get to engage the learning part of my brain by becoming an overnight subject-matter expert about all sorts of things.

Anonymous
Anonymous

im not sure exactly but midheaven is tenth house, iv read tenth house house something to do with father issues i think but not exactly sure xxx

Herby
Herby

Well, maybe what you read was correct because I have them …

Water Pig
Water Pig

Gemini Venus conjunct NN in 11th house. However, born in merc retro in taurus and mars in taurus so while I love being around people sometimes there are other times when I need to be at home doing my own thing (venus &NN trine aqua moon). I think the goal is to learn to be comfortable in groups and to learn to communicate with different types of people.

Shannon
Shannon

Water Pig I think our birthdays must be very close! I’m also Sun, Merc, Mars in Taurus, Venus I Gem & I have a late Cap (almost Aqua) Moon… I’m 4th of May 83, are you around then or is it just a lot of coincidences? πŸ™‚

Charley
Charley

The only Gemini I have is in the 3rd house and that’s so right, communication is my addiction all that 3rd house stuff is where I’m most at ease.

lore
lore

I have Sun, Moon, Chiron and Lilith in Gemini, 8th house. Mercury is also in my 8th, but in Kataka. Words have a lot of power to me, so i’m learning not take things very seriously, but also to watch what i say. It takes me a while to open up, but once i do, i don’t shut up haha This is a bit hard for me when meeting people for the first time and trying to have small talk, sometimes i say very little or just don’t say anything to avoid saying the wrong thing (whatever that is) even… Read more »

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

Oooh hello 8th house gem w scorpio rising – I’ve had to learn how to not bombardment conversations with heavy topics, as can’t do chit chat. I relate to what you are sharing.

8thHouse SunMoonVenus
8thHouse SunMoonVenus

We’ve got much in common! You’re the closes to an astro twin I’ve ever come across πŸ™‚

Lauren
Lauren

Hmm..I have very little air in my chart, the only thing is Pluto in Libra. My Gemini is ruled by the 5th house, but most is in the 6th and empty of planets. It’s also on the Descendant. I never hear much about the Descendant, is it very significant? Not really sure how Gemini affects me. All my cerebral, unemotional and logic seeking aspects I usually have pinned on my Sag Rising. I am an extremely emotional person, but my Virgo moon represses a great deal of my otherwise turbulent Scorpio inner drama. I added in all the “additional objects”… Read more »

fushiafairy
fushiafairy

mercury in Gemini in the 10th house….Gemini intercepted in the 10th house.
I dislike a strict routine. Can’t make up my mind on a career. Write. My mind has a mind of it’s own. I am a great test taker. If my brain is not active solving a problem or designing something I get depressed.

VS
VS

9th/10th gem – I have the same paradox every day. Crosswords? Whodunits?

I’m happiest making money doing something fun…somehow I’ve always managed to charm my way up the ranks when that’s not possible.

fushiafairy
fushiafairy

suduko. love whodunits!
Haven’t been happy with my job in a long time, except the pay is good. Need to move on to something, but what?

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Cool that those twins in the pick depict the light and dark/shadow stuff Mystic.

prowlncrab
prowlncrab

Gem Asc trine Uranus … how does it feel? Definitely like a split personality. I do seem to pull patterns and insights seemingly out of nowhere and often am even more clueless as to where they came from than everyone around me. The energy is scatty, unstable and hard to pin down. Great for philosophical thought and high brow principles (and ranting tehehehe) – but lousy for washing the dishes and anything basically practical. I find it very difficult to stay grounded. My chart is seriously dominated by Gem/Merc preoccupations, Aqua/Uranus schitzo changes and disruptions and poor old Crab sun/venus… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

maybe look to use times when transitting planets are in earth signs to bring it into the scheme of things? Or the progressed chart? If you want the earth that is.

Ms.
Ms.

gem asc trine uranus. genius and mischief? πŸ™‚

shell
shell

Gem sun in 10th, but Gem rules my (empty) 11th. I used to social flit about until I became saturns bitch. Now I more side with my lazy cow bits, and have become an excellent social piker.

shell
shell

Of course I analyse group social interaction type things and commerce related stuff for a job, but you know there’s nothing Gemini or 11th about that….

shell
shell

Ps, Whatevs, today is my massive aqua pile up square my merc day and I am so bloody tired from wired bad sleep I am all in black and blue (no energy for red) and can barely be arsed having a conversation let alone starting any kind of assertive discussion.

Ms.
Ms.

I will bake for both of you <3

shell
shell

The yay was for the baking. πŸ™‚

whatevs
whatevs

what she said

shell
shell

Yay.
I have just realised that the answers to everything I need to know at this point of time can be found within the rolling stone’s ‘let it bleed’.

whatevs
whatevs

What a shame re your lack of red shell, I was looking forward to hearing the sartorial deets so I could envision your moment of glory. I was thinking you could accessorise with a flaming torch a la statue of liberty. Oh well, never mind… Most of my stones inspiration has strangely enough been from Black and Blue (which is apparently so NOT pc) and Between the Buttons. I could def go some baking. We have no coffee and I am so shagged I don’t want to get dressed and go outside but now I have to unless I can… Read more »

shell
shell

The freezer is always where the emergency coffee is.

whatevs
whatevs

weird but true – we NEVER put it there but there was some. So you can’t always get what you want is the song? : o) If you ever have a chance to hear Melody on vinyl preferably on super amp + speakers is like it writhes all over you like a writhing thing

shell
shell

Ah, no not that song in particular, though yes you are right it sounds fab played loud (like the man says) on vinyl (only version I have)
Country honk will always be my fave off this album

Hooray for emergency coffee.

whatevs
whatevs

for a minute I thought you were saying you play social poker

whatevs
whatevs

“I love my masks but they are not falsehoods.” I relate to that – it’s all real while it’s happening and then when it’s over what does it matter anymore? It’s over. People think I’m glaring too but it’s my version of middle distance stare while a world of fluid lightning speed connections are being made in my head. Those people need to get some thoughts on and not the kind that are about how everyone’s out to get them. I lived with another gem asc who was a sound engineer and he did the glaring thing and he actually… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

lol, what sun sign was soundie housemate? I have had to be conscious of the face thing as people think I am glaring at them. brooding think face *squish*

yes my asc is very late gemini and I have a wee 12th house that is all gemini and my 1st house is a sliver of the remaining degrees of gemini then cancer 1st house.
some houses are much bigger than others so it depends on the house but yeah its mainly one sign

whatevs
whatevs

He was a leo – classic gem ascendant thing of being 10-15 years older than everyone and no-one knowing it cos he looked so much younger than he was – he was in his early 40s while we were all still lurching towards saturn returns but he had a classic self obsessed genius thing going on so he fitted in really easily with the kids.

Andromeda
Andromeda

Multi gem partner has frown line so deep the Chinese Medicine Dr said, ‘You can see he’s a deep thinker. I don’t think his mind stops for sleep at all.’ He may be right!

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

I think gems can have so much energy in their heads and it can look intense. I’ve often been asked if there is something wrong when I’m simply concentrating. Have to remember Zen face so I don’t freak people out.

Andromeda
Andromeda

As gem asc I have deep talk and smile lines from vocalising incessantly. πŸ™‚

Ms.
Ms.

I have a love hate thing with my ascendent (late gemini rising) *there is a small club on here ;)* Didn’t click how significant it actually was until later years, I guess because I am such a scorpio? though I can come off super flakey even though my brain is running around at light speed pinging about the place. My blank stare used to get me in trouble as people thought I was glaring at them. I can be really shy at times even though I am super extroverted and couldn’t even explain the extremity and why, if I did… Read more »

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

I think Scorpio with Gem rising can be a beautiful combo. You know Ru Paul has the same astro (with a Scorp moon too), and I don’t know if you know him/like him but I adore him. He’s so interesting. πŸ˜‰

Ms.
Ms.

ha, Ru Paul. awesome. I am glad you think it has potential beauty I am sure a lot of people would think mega bitch. Going to astro spy now. thanks x

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

I know someone (a Virgo) whose best friend is a Scorp with Gem rising. They ended up having a falling out and she’s been holding him at arm’s length ever since, but… the man’s a real charmer! I think there’s definitely something to people with this particular sun/ascendant combo.

whatevs
whatevs

Gem ascendant conjunct Lilith = Zelator with a penchant for patent leather.

Ms.
Ms.

do you look lilith esque?

whatevs
whatevs

no I have legs

Ms.
Ms.

just some manicured talons and a couple of feathers>?

and you are mega multiple conjunct libra? or just same sign?
what house again? do men throw their bodies down over puddles for your feet?

whatevs
whatevs

I do have a thing for feathers but I can’t talk about that here πŸ˜†
mega late virgo conjunctions which conjunct the libra sun with the other conjunctions in late libra and scorpio x

whatevs
whatevs

3rd 4th 5th 6th houses – shit happens in the neighbourhood, in the house, at the TAB hehehe and at work

Ms.
Ms.

i have same house occupation πŸ˜‰

whatevs
whatevs

I have a vague memory from other posts our charts are pretty similar with the spread across the houses being staggered – you’ve got way more scorp – which feels familiar to me, having a familial nest of them. I’ve got way more tedious virgo.

whatevs
whatevs

soz seriously but, sometimes when i get in my don’t fuq with me I am woman thing on and wear the things that show off curvy form I feel like I’m channelling her big time. When I was single it was way more obvious more often. I don’t lurk in the jungle so much these days. Now instead of it being kind of a constant layer of the life & times it’ll happen suddenly and it comes as a bit of a shock let me tell you. There have been days when men swerve to park beside me to chat… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

I can see that it would be like some kind of internal magnet for sure, like they just feel some thing and go SNAP. draw toward you, stalk you worship you or fight with you? really interesting beauty sex lore codes.
you could have been the understudy for black swan

rest up babes. your schedule sounds exhausting.
btw what house is all your libra in?
*spy spy*

whatevs
whatevs

rules my 5th but is mostly in my 4th let me know if you work anything interesting out hot tips for the 1st leg of the double at randwick? that’s a joke. maybe I should go see black swan. I had the billboard in my face for ages from living room window. Gorgon eyes. hehehe moon in virgo makes me wanna go get gorgoneyesd

whatevs
whatevs

yes also re the fight with me thing – in the wilder times of whatevs there were some touch and go interludes with powerful men who would worship and when they realised they couldn’t tame would turn – the vibe you exude that sends them mad is also the one that helps haul your ass out of life threatening situations thankfully.

VS
VS

I also have asc. conj lilith. not in Gem but it’s always a gas.

VS
VS

also, I just had this bitchin insight. I was thinking about how us Lilith Asc people always pull off the Mia Wallace look (Pulp Fiction)

Guess who has Asc conj Lilith? Uma Thurman.

Ms.
Ms.

yeah I can imagine its a tough placement but amazing at times. interesting re uma thurman. poison ivy as well (dc comics/batman) thanks VS

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

I have Gemini in the 8th House. Just read that it means I have an interest in things such as science fiction, death and pornography. SO TRUE. Though I’m more interested in sci fi and pornography than I am in death.

πŸ˜€

Ms.
Ms.

you should combine them!
(sci fi and porn) πŸ˜€

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

Sci-Fi and Porn, offically seconded ! XXX πŸ˜€

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

extra bonus points if the guys are scruffy-lookin’ longhairs *
ha ha~ jus’ saayin’ (shrug)

Catsmeow
Catsmeow

If by longhairs you mean guys with long glorious hair, then yes, gimme those extra bonus points! πŸ˜€ (The impractical intellectual sounds good too. ;))

whatevs
whatevs

surely un petit mort gets a look in?

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

Like

Shannon
Shannon

Haha definitely like!!!

Mari
Mari

My Mercury is in Gemini in my Gem-ruled 3rd house. And I was born in the Year of the Monkey. I am quick in all third house matters: quick to interact with people in my community or anywhere else for that matter, quick to pick up information and file it away for future use, and quick to come up with easy solutions for seemingly tricky problems. Even a sextile to Saturn, albeit Saturn in Aries, cannot ground me enough to keep me from the less positive manifestations of Mercurial speed: I often neglect to β€œcheck my work” or read instructions,… Read more »

Equilibrium Girl
Equilibrium Girl

Can I ask a bimbonic question…? Thank you. Can someone please explain the cusp issue for me? Okay, so I have 8th house starting at 26 deg Taurus. Therefore Gemini begins at approx 4 deg into the 8th house. Does this mean my 8th is ruled by Toro or Gem??? It’s just that sometimes (on the other side of the chart), I can’t relate to my Libra rising scopes and feel Scorp is more me. I checked with Mystic and she says that I’m definitely Lib rising, but my asc is at 20 deg Lib, therefore, most of Libra is… Read more »

Mari
Mari

Your ASC is smackdab in the middle of Libra. It is always good to remember that the ASC is the mask you wear in the world in order to serve all of the needs and desires of your natal chart as a whole. Therefore, the expression of the sign on your ASC is greatly colored by the rest of your chart, especially your sun and moon signs.

As for the remaining house cusps, I wonder what house system do you use? I recommend checking out Koch and Krusinski if you haven’t already.

whatevs
whatevs

*ears perk up* what are those house systems all about? I’ve looked at that vaguely but it looks like you have to overhaul your whole way of thinking about things to use another system and I’m a learner in whatever this system is – is this placidus we use here? So I didn’t want to run before I could walk. Can i get a please explain on koch and krusinski please mari? I looked at the reinhold ebertin stuff.

Mari
Mari

There is very little overhaul required to check out other house systems. Here is a quick overview of the house systems I mentioned summarized from Wiki: Placidus This is the most commonly used house system in modern Western astrology. The paths drawn for each degree of the ecliptic to move from the nadir to the horizon, and from the horizon to the midheaven, are trisected to determine the cusps of houses 2, 3, 11, and 12. The cusps of houses 8, 9, 5 and 6 are opposite these. The Placidus system is sometimes not defined beyond polar circles (latitudes greater… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

if it’s not rude to ask cos i dunno it might be personal but why did you change? What does the new system give that the old one doesn’t? Do you interpret things in the same way but the houses and signs might change?

Mari
Mari

Not rude at all: ) I was born up near the Canadian border, so my Placidean chart had houses of greatly varying sizes. I was always annoyed by the crazy-big size of my 6th and 12th houses. They swallowed up 2 1/2 signs apiece. Having a 6th with Leo on the cusp and and five placements in intercepted Virgo and Libra just never felt right to me. It was even worse for the 12th given that I had nothing in Aquarius or Pisces but only in Aries. Since Pisces was intercepted AND empty, it really played no role in my… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

I’ve tried Koch house system for me but I prefer my Sun in 11th, Uranus in 3rd, NN in 5th instead of 10th/2nd/4th. It’s just who I know myself as, as well, but those other house placements can fit if I let them!

shell
shell

A house is RULED by the sign on the cusp, but that doesn’t discount that some of the house may be in a different sign, or that natal/transiting planets may operate with a different flavour cause in a different sign other than the house ruler. So your 8th is ruled by Taurus (and Venus) EQ, but a lot of the planets transiting through it will be working in more Gem like ways (when in the Gemini bit obviously). So it’s a bitof looking at both. Yes when houses and signs don’t line up, sometimes scopes other than your rising may… Read more »

Herby
Herby

I don’t think it’s a bimbonic question. I have the same one. My Moon is on the cusp of my 6th and 7th houses. It’s still in Pisces but it makes a difference for the Virgo / Pisces opposition in my chart whether it’s in the 6th or 7th house.

Will be interesting to read the responses … Thank you for asking πŸ™‚

Anonymous
Anonymous

my ex had gem venus and he was so fickle its not funny, he lies, he cheats he couldnt keep his mind on 1 girl for any legnth of time lol but then again he had pisces moon but anyways
someone said abouve, about a pisces gem rising shutting down, im exactly the samer it just sort of happens when i have alot on my mind i disappear from everyone, pisces needs lots of space i guess,

Bluesky
Bluesky

Gemini cusp of 11th, empty of planets I guess this makes me good at cocktail parties (although I don’t like crowds). I also perform well in groups and group efforts. Like to volunteer and work with a group toward a goal. Although I can be fickle about giving which priority to which group. Have tough time prioritizing volunteer activities and can feel easily conflicted about what to do in that sphere. Can also feel conflicted about which parties to attend or not attend (I don’t mean to suggest invitations are flooding in at the moment, though). But when I do… Read more »

virgo cat
virgo cat

Gemini in 9th house – does that mean 9th/10th cusp? I am certainly ALWAYS happy when I am traveling and learning. I never feel stuck at school on in a class. But also career. I often feel anxious in a career. Not settled. Want to be doing a hundred different things at once.

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

Love love LOVE this picture.

Gemini 8th House and yes i am extremely conflicted over sex with a madonna whore complex enough to rival the pope. Or bastard-monk complex or something.

hmm. thank you for the insight.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

I have Chiron and Vesta in Gemini, my sixth house. Dunno what that means.

mrcreosote
mrcreosote

gemini on my natal chart is totally empty, apart from being on 6th house cusp.

can certainly relate to the ‘Loki’ interpretation – prefer to get things done my own way (and being virgo sun it will always be the *right* way), forget the niceties or the politics. Also don’t mind stirring the pot occasionally (or quite a lot, now that i think about it)

year of the fox
year of the fox

That’s odd because i frequently feel stuck about it.

Gemini in the 7th house along with Saturn right on it.

Baristagem
Baristagem

Sun, Moon & Venus in Gemini

My mind is quick, curious & extremely active. I love it! 😯

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Oh, I’d put in one of my posts that you were also Gemini Merc. Soz about that but glad you cleared that up for me.

Baristagem
Baristagem

No probs Sweet P

My Merc is right next door to Gemini, in Kataka! 😯

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Knock-Knock

Who’s there….? πŸ˜†

Think you said too that your Gemini is in 3rd? No wonder your mind very quick and curious since in the house of it’s ruler!!

Daughter’s Merc in Cancer as is Venus, in 10th with her Sun. She has Mars in Gemini in 9th conjunct MC.

Baristagem
Baristagem

If you wanna take a peek Sweet P…

My deets are 13th June 1980 12am Sydney Aus… 😯

I have Sun & Moon in the 3rd + Venus is in the 4th but still in Gemini.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Oh wow, I was just thinking about posting my info….Ha, what is up with that?

Thanks for that and yes I will love to run your chart!

Jupiter dead on my Mercury today and some wonderful things via divine providence have transpired (epiphany/guidance wise) since yesterday. Very grateful for that.

Sweetpea
April 1, 1959
Wichita Kansas
10:20 a.m.

Water Pig
Water Pig

Sweetpea I heard Seven Nation Army on the radio the other day and thought of you!

Herby
Herby

Wow – your chart looks so even compared with mine. I’m focused in one house and my lone Moon is on the right side but you have planets everywhere. Must be far more interesting than just having everything in one place πŸ™‚

And your Asc / MC lines aren’t at right angles like mine. Mine just dissect my chart into quarters. I thought everyone’s did that. I learned something new just from a brief look at your chart. Thanks.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

And wow, you were born just one year before my daughter, she’s the 15th, 1981.

You 12:00 a.m. midnight…

She 11:59 am….noon!

Baristagem
Baristagem

Wow!

Funny how we crossed wires!

Jupiter on Merc must be quite a treat! πŸ™‚ Thanks for your deets!! 😯

Ooo & it rhymes… πŸ˜†

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Yeah, there we go again Gemmy, on the same wave length again!!

Ooh, cool Herby. I’ll run yours too! Just now off the the jacuzzi to look at the snow capped mountains and read a book….whooo-hooo! Oh and get a coffee first…woo-hoo!! (again….hehe)

Capfire
Capfire

Ahh babies. I was…
when you were still in nappies.

Capfire
Capfire

I aint saying my age Herby! Sweetp and I might of played around in the sandpit together as kids thou.
Grandkids huh! At least you have the energy to keep up.
I may not live long enough to see mine since Virgo & Sag daughters are young and I am old sorta thing.

I have Gem in the 2nd with no planets not even an asteroid there. Guess that means im flippant with money??? I did pay way to much for a new top yesterday whilst bitching (to myself) about credit card balance at the same time.

Baristagem
Baristagem

OK I’m back from my ride… 😯

Sweet P your chart has got lots going on!

We both have Jupiter in the 6th, you have Venus in Taurus & I have Chiron in Taurus & you have natal Merc Retro which makes you a writer, right? 😯

I’ve got to take a look at Herby’s chart next! 😯

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Hope your ride went great Gem! You’re right, your Chiron conjunct my Venus…Spozed to be a healing connection, and in love relationships, very positive.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

I’ve seen lots of info on Mercury retro in the natal chart, and in my life it has been pertinent to “past life” situations that have been essential for growth and well, that is coincidentally part of what I’m writing on!

You know the ‘ol Merc Rx, re-do, re-hash, re-think….yep, that has been a theme in several relationships.

Herby
Herby

Wow. That’s pretty cool.

Given that I’m now going to look at your charts, I’ll share mine too …
7 Sep 1979
8:10am
Berkel-Enscott, Netherlands

In some drawings my Asc is on the cusp of Libra and Virgo. And in some my Moon is in 6th or 7th. I ID more with it in my 6th.

Herby
Herby

That’s funny Capfire. I have image of you as being maybe in your 40s … Only from your posts and because your posts remind me of another Cappy I know who is their 40s.

Would you believe I have 3 (almost 4) grandkids? (No, I did not start early, my son is my step-son … but he was a norty teenager)

Herby
Herby

Wow, your chart is exactly opposite to mine in shape. That’s really cool … No idea yet what it means but the way that it is like mine but flipped is pretty interesting (just the location of the signs in the houses and the weight – not the planets)

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Gemmy and Herbs you both have strong hemispheric focus as does my Gemini daughter. Her focus on the Eastern hemisphere…. http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/hemisphereemphasis.html Also, Herby you have what is called a “kite” formation with the Moon as the focal point/tip of the top of the kite in the opposition. You might want to check that formation out. Astrodienst does use quite wide orbs but if it fits… Find if we hit “aspect lines to all” @ astro.com as well, we can find hidden aspects not readily seen. Point of Fortune on your Asc Gem is a nice thing to have I think… Read more »

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

hee hee Sweets, did yours first, your NNode on 13th degree as is my Toro Moon which is conjunct your Venus.
awww. πŸ™‚ You have some strong planetary placements, but your t-square looks like a toughie. Your chart like my Mom’s all over the place. She’s a big club joiner, and wants me to, haha not. gonna. happen. Too much Neptune. Rox 9/22/67 2:27pm Paris, IL

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

Herby, saw moon anchoring all the Virgo stuff in kite and thought no wonder you garden ! You find peace of mind there, yah? Me too πŸ™‚

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Saturn square (with Aries/SN, 11th) makes me a non club joiner but my current task is to reach out with the Libran NN but doing it my way of course!! πŸ™‚ Yes, the T-square with Pluto/IC-MC square Jupiter in 6th was a huge toughie especially when Pluto square Pluto and conjunct my Jupiter. That’s when I’d gone thru huge emo trials (Trans. Uranus- Neptune were conjunct Moon in 8th inconjunct Mars/Rising and so messed up emo wise I fell down….sugeries, etc. Then came along Chrion conjunct Jupiter..healing period). This was all mid to late 90’s. Different elements, like in an… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

And Gem, no doubt I think that we get the “wave length” thing because your Sun and Moon (3rd house) on my Mars in 12th.

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

Well, thank good ness that’s over, huh ?! Darned ole transits puttin us through the wringer… I like your Uranus and Jupiter anchors to the MC, and good Saturn anchors too. You are a spiritual teacher, Sweets, have taught me lots here. I read for months before posting, and I see your humor too, you make it fun. I like teachers, they are game-changers for me, always have been.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Oh, April Fooler might as well make light of the crap…

Hugs Rox

Baristagem
Baristagem

My reply is above Sweet P! 😯

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

A high strung Virgo, how’d that happen LOL ! X

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

indeed, Herby, indeed ! Saturn is def. up your whatzit !
I like rocks and crystals and Gaia, which Saturn rules; not so fond of the taskmaster hard-ass, just to be clear. πŸ™‚

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Rox, don’t know if you are familiar with chart lay out types, (looks like you are familiar with your mother’s chart however), but wanted to add that the type of chart I have is a “splash” lay out. It actually fits quite well with varied interests and esp. my Gemini rising/Mars as is Mercurial and Mercury rules my chart.

That might be something peeps want to look into too. The kind of lay out they have besides hemisphere focus…I know, so much to know, eh?

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

lol

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

If I add the Point of Fortune, Medusa, Eris, Juno, Pallas, Lilith in, my chart has a bit of a see saw effect and that makes tons of sense too as far as certain life focus.

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

Yes, I am familiar with the chart emphasis. My sister is primarily all 6th house, hard worker, self-employed. With my emphasis in SW quad, I need to give, esp. with the Leo planets. Lack of love relationship is mostly trying because more than a need to take, I have a need to give. And, yes, my Mom has varied interests and likes/is liked by just about everyone. She’s very open and friendly.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Cool Rox…Just found I’d actually run your chart for Paris, IA, not IL so, you have Cap rising, 3 degree, so trans. Pluto in your first house, yes?

Wow…some major transforming going on there?

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Whazit’s and Whatnot’s? πŸ˜†

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

Yes, Pluto transit in first. So peeking out from behind the curtain a bit….stripped naked in public showin all my deets here yesterday, so not the usual me. What I am happy as a clam about is that transit Neptune passed the opp of Leo stuff which is squaring Neptune natal. Cripes, happened the worst around the holidays, and I work retail. I could not fake by, beg or steal enthusiasm or energy for the whole season. Ugh. Not my favorite anyways, but this one I really felt. btw Buckwheat is from my hometown. YAY ! B’wheat ! πŸ˜€

Herby
Herby

Ooh thanks for the tip on kite formation. I always wondered what mine was because the formations in my Intro to Astro book didn’t match.

Oh yeah, I totally find peace of mind in my garden. I used to be really highly strung but since I started gardening I’ve found a way to calm down and relax.

I’m so going to have to read what you shared.

Am also going to have a closer look at them tonight because will be home alone.

Herby
Herby

ROFLOL at Saturnrox …

Perhaps that explains why I hate Master Saturn with such passion.

Bluesky
Bluesky

Your mind does seem quick, curious and active:)

quapricoro
quapricoro

I have a pisces close to me who is gem rising, and they have been institutionalised once when young, how can we be there for them when they are closed up on us?
They have this beautiful strong sunny side they show everyone, but then this conflicted, lonely, shut-in, grudging hard side they show a few…
A particularly long violent grudge against a loving parent wears a family down to.. what, I am not sure.

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

Mars in Gemini. Obviously my favourite method of fighting is good ol’ insult trading. I get over things quickly though.

virgo cat
virgo cat

Also Mars in Gem. No insulting, but get over things super quickly. I do like to fight with words though. And am super easily distracted.

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

Yes, haute Mars Gem is healthy debate, but low is insult trading. Unfort I have 2 exes with Gem Mars and also my sister, so prob a bit too much experience with the low!

InchbyInch
InchbyInch

Debbi Kempton Smith says in her Secrets from a Stargazer’s Notebook that Mars in Gemini people should stop it with all their lame knock-knock jokes. I thought that summed it up well about the Mars in Gemini guy I knew.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I have Venus in Gemini in the 5th (unaspected) but I am no Casanova….nor am I fickle, emotionless, etc (quite the opposite actually, due to an overload in water placements) Social chattiness only comes in sparks and randomly too. One thing I rarely ever do is small-talk unless its to fill the silence. Its odd: as quiet as I am, for some reason I’m very uncomfortable with silence between me and person I care about. I guess since Venus is unaspected, I equate it with the person not caring or loving me back. I am a bit too versatile, and… Read more »

SourPatch
SourPatch

Sorry, this is me…I just forgot to log in.

andromeda
andromeda

Gemini Cusp in the 12th house (Gemini Rising). Feels.. nebulous and like I never know when I have got somewhere – as soon I have ‘grokked’ something, it is transformed into something else. On the other hand, I love talking about and learning about all 12th house related things (except insane asylums, that’s a downer) and am a natural at deep sea diving all things witchy-poo oriented. Reading astrodienst they say that a 12th house Gemini person may have had to keep their mouth shut as a child (well, the family tried very hard to achieve this!). That the 12th… Read more »

andromeda
andromeda

Also probably makes me interested in communicating about lost things like these antiquities.. πŸ™ http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/egyptian_stolen_treasures/egyptian_stolen_treasures.html

Ms.
Ms.

hmm interesting. I have near same asc degree as quite a few of you on here, yourself included. Late gemini rising (24 degrees) rings true here also. There was a lot of shutting up, horrid. Fighting for expression of self was very big and all centered on voice. violence. I outted the lot. I have never read about gem as 12th house but I am going to now, i guess as your ascendant and chart ruler it makes sense yes. The only thing I have in gemini is part fortune, which seems to vary person to person as interp so… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

I’ve never looked at it that way either. Doesn’t that mean the sign before gemini which eludes me right now rules your 12th? And Gemini rules your 1st? Gemini’s starts right near beginning of my 1st so that makes more sense to me cos it’s graphically apparent but if you have it starting near but after the cusp of the 12th I spose it would colour the 12th?

Any Astro fiends around? Do tell…

andromeda
andromeda

Oh NO! I got it backwards, the 12th HOUSE is in Taurus, but my ascendent begins in Gemini, so yes, 1st House. Isn’t it a lucky thing I am going to study astro? Otherwise I’ll be misleading people everywhere…derr.

Yes Gemini Ascendent peeps, take your lithe, agile physique and slender busy hands to the 1st house, do not pass go, do not collect $200…

whatevs
whatevs

but weird thing is that MS apparently DOES have most of Gemini sign in her 12th. There’s that whole thing with a chart where a whole sign can be inside a house without crossing its borders. Or something… My dad has it – some of his houses are so big they take up two signs.

Ms.
Ms.

yep whole 12th house is gemini. with part fortune just off conjunct.

MC is aries as well which is only southern hemisphere apparently

whatevs
whatevs

really? that’s why antipodeans have the let’s knock that bastard off (as in everest) mentality?

Ms.
Ms.

yeah its supposed to be aqua/pisces MC only if gem asc but south hemisphere put me aries mc

whatevs
whatevs

oh i get it I totally misunderstood what you meant LOL I am so not the full quid today i mean that’s not unusual but today seems like a peak

Andromeda
Andromeda

Well that’s cool it resonated for you Ms. My asc is 11 deg so not so deep in the 12th as yr own, though i do wonder about the influence of having most of a sign in a house too?

Ms.
Ms.

exactly my thoughts. does this make 12th house somewhat more relevant due to the ascendant. neptune is in opposite house as well. there’s a very cool relay going on below about houses but I am not understanding enough to get the entire meaning of it

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

With sun, mercury, venus, and Saturn stellium in gem in the 8th there is def a lot of gem going on for me. I haven’t been fickle or gossipy since my Saturn return or if I was for a moment I prob got a cosmic hiding. I’m practically obsessed with communicating and should prob be like the minister for that portfolio. I mostly love to talk about sex, death, the occult and ways of transforming, intense – I know, crowned with a charming scorpion rising of I can see through everything. Think big and laterally and mostly a few steps… Read more »

Equilibrium Girl
Equilibrium Girl

Oooh, you sound fascinating PG!!! Sex, gender representation in the media and culture are my big intense convo-starters.

Oddly, I relate to a lot of the stuff you’ve said and yet I’m a Sun, Merc, Venus Cap in 3rd/ 4th houses. I always attribute my lack of decisiveness to my Libra rising…

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

Ha! Cool! Yes well I think that I’m into some fascinating things. Buy I have to warn you at the moment it all is about Saturn and Capricorn, so words like organisation and strategy turn me on. Though I did listen to some Buddhist talks yesterday and of course they are into contemplating death and it was great to dabble and remember the freedom and motivation towards vibrant living by contemplating death.

Herby
Herby

I think we three could have some great convos πŸ™‚

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

That is a lot of 8th house! How’s the love life with all that 8th house Gem? I can’t imagine you put up with much crap from people!

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

well good question lucy- my love life has been and is stalled or growing in the long term practice of platonic love, even bodhisatvic love. I did put up with bad behaviour in relationships in the past, but it has been a core learning for me to know how to not put up with crap and be radically honest with myself at sometimes great losses. I would be interested in what you see in my astro line up.

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

Hmm. Well, I have Sun & Saturn in the 8th in Leo, so not as much as you, but enough to get a glimpse. Love life also currently stalled! I think the point of it is that you’re not content with the same domestic existence as most people are, you have to go deeper. The life I see my friends living: playgroups, cooking, sewing, weekends at home with hub – I WANT to want it, but I know it will never really be enough for me. Need to know more, need to be more. The good news is that 8th… Read more »

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

Just thinking further about your putting up with too much bad behaviour in the past. I did too. Maybe this is one of the lessons of Saturn in the 8th? Which is fundamentally energy. Lessons in boundary setting and reserving our energy for ourselves, rather than allowing it to be drained by another.

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

Yes I can relate to that, its prob one of the reasons I’m so single is that ordinary domesticity bores/scares me particularly w a partner – I’m enjoying it on my own. I have understood that Saturn in this placement for me and w a hard aspect to pisces moon, assists me in being grounded and gaining some control over my life. That reflects on relationships too I guess. I did used to gamble everything for love – work, friends, houses, self; but I’m no longer willing to, figure I’m the forever love for myself and nothing gonna stop me… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

the only other scorp rising gemini I knew had the most amazing eyes. she was a psychotherapist. shaved head. LOOKED like pluto

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

Nice – my eyes change all the time.

deathinyourface
deathinyourface

“Particularly find myself most interested in high brow conversations first thing in the morning”

omg that was me this morning!
drives my air-deficent boyfriend up the wall
moon in gem/1st house

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

It’s hard work or just stupid for the air deficient, but even some politically, literary, occult friends have been like – can we just have our coffee first , they just can’t talk on an empty stomach. I do respect the sacred morning however and have to allocate time for intense analysis of anything. It’s not always best for me for my mind to be so active in the morn.

olyalyalya
olyalyalya

Gemini, is in Chiron the 8th house. Sexually ambiguous? Nah man. But it is tres easy for me to discuss sex, money, death, occult.

T
T

I’ve got Gem on the 4th house cusp. My Chiron’s in Gem too (in the 3rd house) and my North Node and Part of Fortune are conjunct the IC.

“Never stuck there” definitely makes sense–I love to be home. I’m never bored at home. I can go for days without leaving the house and be perfectly happy. After all, everything I need is right here! And as for half the sign being in my 3rd house, well, I’m never exactly at a loss for words, either πŸ˜‰

delilahmoran
delilahmoran

gud morning…mine is saturnin gemini 16 degrees in 5th house conjunct mercury in sag 11th house and semi sextile jupiter in 12th house 4 degrees…what does this mean…thank you

olyalyalya
olyalyalya

you structure ur creativity and romance with a flair? Good parenting skills? Yeah especially jupiter in 4th house. So like Ton never stuck at home.

goldfleece-risingfish
goldfleece-risingfish

Hmm I’ve got Mars and Venus at 13 degrees in Gem, Moon at 21 degrees all in 4th house, then Saturn in Gem in 3rd house 4degrees. I fire up quite easily but am over it in a jiffy. I have my best conversations with people with Gem, we can be chatting about 14 different things at once and come back to a conversation from a few days weeks ago with no word of warning and take off on it again. It feels good…I loved reading your Luna Luxe about how Gem moon quite often loves a realtionship wit someone… Read more »

goldfleece-risingfish
goldfleece-risingfish

thankfully Mercury is in Ares so helps believe in myself, i do feel like i’m finally more accepting of myself and my way of thinking, as i get more moons and seasons under my belt. One other thing is that it’s true i create scenarios about nearly everything that i see rather than just go with the everyday mundane of sitiations, like in the traffic, supermarket, walking, swimming etc..it’s a constant story and am crap at meditating .. too unintersting, and again find myself coming up with stories for eveyon there. definatly live more in my head ! Enough of… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

gem rising and goldfleece i couldnt of said it better myself lolxxx

Ms.
Ms.

oh yes, I remember your love story now. amazing. πŸ™‚