Your Year Of Saturn

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Surreal Art - The Eye Of TimeMuch as i would like to be sporting the morals of a street-cat on heat, honouring sensual gourmet whims and saying a gigantic ‘fuq u’ to convention whilst i explore the rejuvenatory powers of vice, i am not.  Why? Because i am having a Saturn transit. Oh it’s just Saturn opposite Mercury and trine Ascendant but Saturn is Saturn; the Eye of Time.

When Saturn turns that eye on you, all that works is proper strategy, realistic thinking, planning and seeing things for what they are: measure and assess. The good news? It’s kind of hard to eat crap under Saturn. Not even that. I’m suddenly gluten free. If you get with the Saturn program, all sorts of things will work out. The results: Stunning.

And get this; from September 2010 until September 2011, Saturn is covering ten to sixteen degrees of Libra. This means five things:

(a) That area of your chart and anything at 10 to 16  degrees is getting the total Saturnine drilldown.

(b) It’s got a hint of Pluto as Pluto is now moving into orb of squaring the earliest Saturn. Never mind if this making your eyes roll.  You need only know this: Saturn, augmented by Pluto = awesome makeovery powers, should you choose to use them.

(c) The phase from last September until next September is likely to have one very distinct and practical, achingly Saturn in style, challenge. And so your deadline for conquering this and emerging, triumphant, is September.

(d) When Saturn goes Retrograde at the end of Jan, you may think you’ve clobbered the issue but stay-on-it like a fiend. September to September and Saturn at 1o to 16 of Libra all the way.

(e) You look first to the sector/house of your chart that has these degrees. That’s your most probably zone of operations. Then you look at planets/points in your chart at 10 to 16 degrees of Libra, Capricorn, Kataka or Aries. They’re totally in the Hot Zone of Saturn. After that, other planets/points in 10 to 16 degrees but the experience is not likely to be so intense.

You may even enjoy it. Would anyone like to join a secret Saturn Girl club on this site where we just discuss Saturn stuff such as teeth, diets, budgets and exercise tracking? It has to be secret or else peeps not doing Saturn would find us too scary.

Image: Salvador Dali – The Eye Of Time

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sag blue horse
sag blue horse

Sorry late post here, but Im entering the club too. Jupiter conjunct North Node in Capricorn in 10th house, Saturn in 7th House transiting pluto. I’ve decided to become ambitious. Thanks Mystic for this help.

virgolicious
virgolicious

I’ve had Saturn riding my Virgo bits and most recently over my midheaven for years now, so I feel ever-so relieved not to be in the Saturn Club for a change. Yes, I’ve got lots of planets in the ‘zone’, but not in any of the signs MM alerts us to so I am counting my blessings, and sending love to all are under Saturn’s pump. In the last 12 months I have given up smoking and drinking, lost a stone, lost a job, got not one but TWO new (better) ones with more money and respect, fallen in love… Read more »

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

saturn is transiting my 12th house libra, will be conjuncting natal uranus at some point… i did a bit of research last night, and it seems to be a very sobering, at times depressing, solo journey into the soul. Interestingly this seems a bit different to me than my saturn return spiritual seeking and dark night of the soul, it seems a lot more grounded, and less uncertain. I feel like i can only know the language of my soul, while i am at times inspired by others, it is little at this time, I feel i have rejected all… Read more »

Aphrodite
Aphrodite

This is where I belong. IC/MC Libra/Aries 14 43, ASC/DESC Leo/Aq 14 26 so Saturn will be keeping all the angles active until late autumn. Looks like I will have smoother time with the me/us matters with Saturn sextile to ASC and trine to DESC, and more work ahead with the private/public axis with Saturn conjunct IC and opposite MC. I welcome this as I have been in stagnant waters for too long. Elimination needed. At the same time Pluto approaching square to Sun (at the moment 3 degrees to go to exact) and Uranus approaching Mercury (also 3 degrees… Read more »

Adminiscorp
Adminiscorp

I want in! I have Libra rising with Venus and Pluto in the early degrees and have been on a massive diet kick since the New Moon. I’ve made a whole of year plan, complete with charts, progress reports and rewards systems! So far it’s been relatively easy compared to every other time in my life I’ve tried to do it, suddenly i love salad! Thank you Saturn?!

Ms.
Ms.

how easy is it to behave in a reward system you have created? impressive.
or is this just my lack of discipline knowing I can corrupt the judge here?x

saturninegem
saturninegem

Over the last week I have sworn to eat three regular meals a day or else – lately – I get huge punishing zits (that resemble planets.)

Despite living mostly out of a suitcase for work I am finally starting to maintain regimented skincare, dietary and sleeping routines to go with the fabulous real hairdryer! and new wardrobe I’ve just bought on ebay – pluto is seemingly forcing upon my capricorn ascendant at 5.5 degrees.

But wearing heels more often – is that kinda non-saturnine? Coz i gotta say – I’ve got the urge …

ArienScorp
ArienScorp

I am stating an observation: People who say they are swearing off sex till the find the ‘right’ one/kind/what have you, are usually no better off from this decision because they are avoiding dealing with whatever is scaring the shite out them about themselves, relating, intimacy… The people we partner with for whatever length of time are mirrors of ourselves and are pieces of information about us. If we don’t engage and determine why we choose who we choose — we did have a good reason, and the idea we are losers choosing losers is crap — we avoid knowing… Read more »

Saturn's Reasons
Saturn's Reasons

Do get your overall drift… “People who say they are swearing off sex till the find the ‘right’ one/kind/what have you, are usually no better off from this decision because they are avoiding dealing with whatever is scaring the shite out them about themselves, relating, intimacy…” Isn’t it one of the reasonings of Saturn however, as Mystic states, is to get a grip on why we choose what we choose? For better or worse, as Saturn is the task master to some extent. That takes inner work and Saturn is not one for allowing us to run away from that… Read more »

ArienScorp
ArienScorp

Yes, it very well could be that taking some time alone is a good thing thing. I was just pointing out my personal observation that the people I have known who have done that have not reaped anything positive. Obviously not everyone is the same, it wasn’t a standard. I like to see both sides, or many sides when I am trying to figure something out in my own life. I discard what doesn’t work, as anyone would. Yes, it was precisely the ‘piss off’ comment that sounded pissy, don’t you think? 😉 But a radical change in diet does… Read more »

Saturn's Reasons
Saturn's Reasons

“I was just pointing out my personal observation that the people I have known who have done that have not reaped anything positive.”

My point exactly is that if they don’t do Saturn’s work, they won’t
reap anything positive or do anything different next relationip, behavioral wise. I suppose some run towards realtionships to avoid meeting self and some run away to avoid that same thing! Can work both ways I suppose.

“Yes, it was precisely the ‘piss off’ comment that sounded pissy, don’t you think?”

Nah, not to me. I think Mystic is amusing.

year of the fox
year of the fox

People who say they are swearing off sex till the find the ‘right’ one/kind/what have you, are usually no better off from this decision because they are avoiding dealing with whatever is scaring the shite out them about themselves, relating, intimacy… I think that’s an excellent point and one I’ve had to wrestle with for a bit. The way i see it, I would interpret Saturn girl avoiding booty calls is to avoid OBVIOUS bootycalls. If you know it’s a trap, why go in an punish yourself unnecessarily? If you are not sure it will be a bootycall, then you… Read more »

ArienScorp
ArienScorp

It’s weird — with me it’s like saturn is telling me to flow. Don’t run it in patterns that have worked in the past. Break out and feel my way through. It’s seems so unsaturn and yet takes as much discipline as anything else! I’ve got saturn pushing my money. I’ve felt very confident in that area in the past and now it’s not enough. I feel I am being forced to do it differently. Make money, not with what is guaranteed, but take risks and make money creatively. It a huge yikes for me. I’ve got saturn natally in… Read more »

year of the fox
year of the fox

The whole breaking out of old patterns sort of thing…sounds more Uranian to me than Saturnine. Perhaps the Uranus going into Aries is what is affecting you more stoutly?

Hehe…not really wise…more like afflicted. If i was wise, I’d already have it in my grasp. Saturn in the 7th house unfortunately.

ArienScorp
ArienScorp

Perhaps, or plutonian. Yes, but sat in the 7th is where you’ll eventually shine, and then show the rest of us how to do it. 😉

Ms.
Ms.

btw mystic between this and the neptune post this is all very very apt over here xx

parafractal
parafractal

Am I interpreting this right?

As spmalr mentioned, If saturn is augmented by Pluto, and mine is at 10 Degrees, scorpio, I’m assuming that’s contributing to the major intensity of everything I’m feeling right about now.
Lillith in Virgo (like my Sun), 11 – not feeling feminine. at all. not for a long time. is it returning? maybe. trying to take more control and care of myself.
aries – mars – 11. No fuq-ing clue.

any explanation gratefully recieved… much confusion on my end!

Ms.
Ms.

I am joining saturn club. I not only have to, I want to, !! everything is so saturn at the moment but it’s completely necessary. saturn is currently in my 4th house conjuncting my natal pluto in libra 3 degrees off exact, saturn is also in sphere of my aries MC at 10 degrees. I am not only dealing with health problems long outstanding, I am actually getting answers and insight into this. I don’t want to jinx myself or speak prematurely as I have some results to come back yet, but there will be some kind of diet plan,… Read more »

spmalr
spmalr

If Saturn is augmented by Pluto, then if I have Pluto at 11 Libra, does this add some added voom to the influence? And hopefully the rebuilding will be a Phoenix rising from the floodwaters?

Schooloffishes
Schooloffishes

Can anyone lend a hand ? I’m completely confused lately, feel like I’m treading water, teamed with a urgent desire to swim hard & fast in some direction… Feel like I’ve got some phoenixing coming up…
Been sorting out my health with Chinese medicine & acupuncture… Can’t stop thinking 24/7…
Don’t understand how the degrees/signs/houses are relating in my chart.
Libra and Pluto that were mentioned are noisy in my chart; Libra rising & Pluto in my first house…With Saturn. Also got 16′ Mercury, in Aquarius, in House 4.
What does this mean?

andromeda
andromeda

10 to 16 degrees I have Mercury and natal Saturn squaring off in Cancer: I have been very aware of how I communicate with other for some time. I have a strong Jupiter who sits at the top of my chart being open, gregarious and kind of fanatic. It’s a bit annoying. Saturn is hopefully going to rein him in a bit? Saturn is transiting my 4th House – Home and Old Family Issues: Hopefully we will get a home we like one day, even renting a nice house would be awesome. A home office may seed a big professional… Read more »

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

I don’t know if I passed the class, Saturn squared Sun, conj DSC, then Pluto, then Uranus in the last 2 years. Passed Vertex and Lilith on its way. 1. Made a booty caller disappear by not accepting his now-too-obvious moves. Boundaries are my new shield – now Pisces rising with discrimination. 2. Not much progress on this side, burning candles right and left, back and forth. But I learned to take breaks for me. 3. Turns out am the only financially responsible adult in my immediate circle. Puts a burden sometimes too heavy to carry, but I move on… Read more »

plutobunny
plutobunny

Saturn has just passed my pluto/libra asc… so far started advanced pilates classes, started knitting! and booked myself in for a smear I been avoiding for almost a year now! Yey for saturn!

margy
margy

Aaaahhh Saturn again for almost another year….. ive been learning so many lessons and truths about other people…. and the knives they throw.
To many Saturn points in my chart, lets hope there’s light at the end of the tunnel.

Mari
Mari

I’ve got Saturn transits out the wazoo these days. All of my personal planets, my Nodes, and my ASC/DES are involved.

What concerns me the most, however, is the Saturn Opposition coming up this autumn. I have a take-no-prisoners natal Saturn in Aries in the First House conjunct my Ascendant that aspects just about everything else. My Saturn Return was truly the best of times and the worst of times, all in one year.

I worry but at least this is the last major transit of midlife!

Anonymous
Anonymous

I’ve got Saturn transits out the wazoo these days. All of my personal planets, my Nodes, and my ASC/DES are involved.

What concerns me the most, however, is the Saturn Opposition coming up this autumn. I have a take-no-prisoners natal Saturn in Aries in the First House conjunct my Ascendant that aspects just about everything else. My Saturn Return was truly the best of times and the worst of times, all in one year.

I worry but at least this is the last major transit of midlife!

into it
into it

Saturn conjunct moon back and forth dammit until next september!? Yes, I’ll talk!

ladyscorp-in-paris
ladyscorp-in-paris

Ah yes.

I have Pluto 10 deg, Venus 11 deg (12th house) and Ascend 13 deg Libra. And Jupiter 15deg Aries, opposite Saturn.

Sign me up.

Putski-libra
Putski-libra

Yes secret saturn!

I’ve been dragging my heals a bit with this saturn biz and the cracks are beginning to show.. eek! it’s inspiring to hear about all you folks getting fit, strong, vital and and with it!

I’ve got..

Pluto and mean node at 16degrees Libra
Moon 15degrees Aries
Mars at 16degrees Cancer (my dad)
and Neptune at 14 sagg just for fun !! (me ma)

Does this mean a good old zapping in sept?

x

Libra Sun Aqua Moon
Libra Sun Aqua Moon

Saturn in Libra – my sun. So I’m in on this Saturn club thing. Let’s get jackets made up!

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

i have saturn transiting my 12th sagitarius… thinking my soul stuff is being put into order… will feel more into it…

lia
lia

Yes please….Being very new to this and with 6 planets at 10 or 11 degrees I’d love some insight on what to expect. Having become motivated (at last) have lost 10 kgs since late August.

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

I am in.

Thinking about gracious acceptance of, shrreeek, age.

Not giving in. But not being in total denial about it.

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

there are plenty of gracious ways to accept age – watching the fabulous Dr Pamela Stephenson/Connolly interview the fabulous Carrie Fisher – twas difficult to conceive the former was born in 1949 (looked HOT for all the right reasons) & the latter 1954 (chose not to enhance, augment or diet).

ditching denial aside, go with whatever makes you feel GREAT!!

Baristagem
Baristagem

That was a great interview rlp!! 😯

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

awesome wasn’t it?!!

Carrie Fishers’ brother was shot so her mother called a cab?
Carrie fessed up her drug habit – her mother calls Cary Grant?

Pamela delineating between bi-polar, manic depression & hyper manic phases …. clever woman who looks unbelievable for her age .. & full of poise!!

looked for the link on i-view for this Shrink Rap – but can only find the Billy Connelly one ….

bluelibra
bluelibra

Secret Saturn Girls Unite. Sign me up.

Jac
Jac

Soooo, if one has Saturn Retrograde natally, what does that mean ( if anything) when Saturn goes retro?

hippychic
hippychic

Me too in Taurus, always wondered if that had any relevance.

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

Started my Saturn Academy a year or two before my Saturn return became exact, so say from 2003/2004? Then Pluto opposition, too, but this is about Saturn. So years of Saturn is more like. I had a dream on 11/11/10 in which I was born, as an adult, (yep, all nekkid) from this diamond-shaped structure, and as I was coming out, it was clear: “I am born from a diamond.” All the pressure didn’t pulverize me, though often times events have come close to doing just that, complete with Chironic sobs that bring you to your knees, with pain so… Read more »

hermes love
hermes love

Mystic I want to hear about your Saturn adventures . Ditto on the Sexual Partners I am Holding out Building My Ojas and Tejas .
I feel that this is the opportunity to get the Gold Ring .
Saying no to the Booty calls . Being nice about it.
Creativity up !!!! Amping up the Work outs!!

Gemstone
Gemstone

Saturn is passing over my Venus at 13 degrees Libra in an intercepted 6th house. On a new health kick, not taking crap from anyone, and I also feel like I’m going to meet my soulmate….. Not only that, but he’ll be much younger than me 🙂 I truly feel the best is yet to come!

AquaCrab
AquaCrab

Me too! On both the health and younger-than-me-soulmate. I’ve been having dreams of him for months.

I’ve been unusually able to set boundaries in the moment, and have avoided getting mired in so much drama that people were throwing around me at Christmas. I am absolutely taking no crap.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Here goes Mystic reading my mind again! Pretty appropriate as just today had these little thoughts…. Was thinking I’m going to go on sabbatical from all things techno for a spell and just marinate in self/spirit. Went so far as to plot out that I will take the internet cable and leave it at work so I can’t have access to all things dazzling and bright (like you all here and Myst…other forums, the tv news crazies). Am going to email the girls and tell them to call if they need to get in touch (we usually email). Just feeling… Read more »

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

Good for you, Sweets ! ((hugs)) !! x

sagitta
sagitta

I have Venus in Libra 15 in my 11th house. Hmm –this should be interesting . . .

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

ya, I have Venus and Mars in that zone….wierd.

ami
ami

Yes! A club!

jomad
jomad

Saturn strolling through my 12th, Jupiter Uranus and Venus feeling a bit crowded with this guest.
No idea what it all means but can tell you I have had quite a challenging 2010 with loads of, dare I say it: “growing up”
Just purchased Saturnalia for some insight from Mustic/Mystic. Interesting slip of a finger 😀

ReikiHeart
ReikiHeart

I’ve been getting wailed on by Saturn since 2005. So. Over. It. But Saturn laughs, while he does the cha-cha over my second-house moon. I would ask for a break, but I’ve had the air crushed from me, and I wouldn’t know what a break looks like to see one; any more. How my Neptune hasn’t taken over and told the whole world to get stuffed whilst I drink myself oblivious; has been sheer willpower — which only adds to the pressure. I know there’s peeps who have it worse, but I could really do without any more Saturn transits… Read more »

Taurean Alchemist
Taurean Alchemist

If there’a a Saturn Girl Club, count me in – Saturn is opposing my Venus and doing other things in my chart (like ominously bearing down on my Libra moon).

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

TA you and Charles both have a saturn opp venus thing atm..

Charles
Charles

I am not too happy with this Saturn opposition Venus. It comes close enough to the recent Venus retrograde, it’s been a long time since our Venus ruler hasn’t been afflicted.

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

TA – good to see you, trust all’s golden in your world xox

virgo rising
virgo rising

on another note Saturn is always on my case since it is natally conjunct my mercury, sun and venus..

virgo rising
virgo rising

have moon at 18 libra so that seems to be escaping this phase, but then Saturn will be conjunct moon in October…hmmm.
Saturn is aspecting Uranus at 10 deg. Gemini, 9th house. I was traveling interstate at the time it made it’s initial pass. Saturn going retrograde at 17 degrees at the end of Jan, but goes direct at 10 degrees of Libra from mid May to early July which could signal more travel…which I am always up for.

J*
J*

Mars 10 degrees Libra, uranus 11 in my first house.

I’m in the middle of a big health kick. It’s been a lifestyle change and a real turning point for me.

year of the fox
year of the fox

I love the little eyeball thing crying by Dali but it needs to be crying blood and not just normal tears. This is Saturn after all.

Saturn is currently @ss-raping my entire natal stellium in Libra.

Taurean Alchemist
Taurean Alchemist

ouch YOTF~ I know that feeling: by the time Saturn was thru sodomising my stellium (pluto, jupiter, southnode plus Uranus at 0 Lib) in late Virgo in the 4th house I had no relatives left that I could, um, relate to, and had a whole new outlook on emotional stability & parenthood.

year of the fox
year of the fox

I’m trying to look at the bright side. At least it conjuncts all those natal planets all at once making a huge mess all at once rather than be overbearing every time I seem to catch a breath. Might as well explode the whole mess!

and yes when Saturn was in Virgo it was all over my venus and MC. wtf. I’ll be glad when it is over and i get my gift lump of coal, my t-shirt that says “Saturn was here” and can move on.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

lol fox! re libra stellium and saturn’s crimes. But really probably more like it has the stellium in stocks (you know, the wooden colonial public punishment things) and is jackbooting around, whipping the planets, rain of shame and yada 😉

year of the fox
year of the fox

oh it’s got my Sun, Mars, Uranus, Pluto, and whole load of asteroids in there too. Sounds more fun than it actually is!

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

Ditto…LMAO!

Spirit
Spirit

….but I do not want to be ` NICE ` !!!……..(Saturn in Libra = blah.)

Libra twins
Libra twins

I loved my Saturn return, it felt like overnight I was more confident and self assured. I’d accomplished what I’d set out to do by then and was happy with where I was.
On the dietary issue and Saturn effects – I had my daughter when Saturn conjunct Ceres both retro and both squared my Saturn, this was when I started showing symptoms of coaelic disease (gluten intolerance). When Ceres was conjunct my natal Ceres/Lilith opposition I was diagnosed and began to get better, Saturn was trine Lilith too.

Go Saturn!

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

My ascendant at 12 degrees Cap is feeling it big time. Thinnest i have been since high school, is ace.

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

just saw my descendant is 10 degrees Cancer as well. Not an ENORMOUS surprise I must say, semi-recent breakup and more single than Jennifer Aniston. sigh.

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

You couldn’t possibly be.

LOL.

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Saturn creeping over natal Uranus…… admission: there is a very real drive to get my life completely anchored in the future world, love my body electric and go completely free range. (Not to be confused with feral)

AquaCrab
AquaCrab

Excellent! I survived Saturn transiting my Pluto in the 8th, and Saturn has just cleared my Uranus (also in the 8th), which is my chart ruler.

I have had the same experience of grounding myself fully into the world that is being birthed. Also seeing my body as the amazing vehicle/temple it is. I’m not interested in investing any of my resources in the old patterns.

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

Hey me too?

Similar experience, but way more amped up, than you calmly put…much more death and craziness.

prowlncat
prowlncat

Appropriate image – Saturn has always had the capacity to make me cry … just thinking about the tedious, drill down, reality checking, nuts and bolts, boring, repetitive nature of this particular teacher of the zodiac immediately makes me develop a nasty rash and want to scull absinthe. Ughhhhh.

Currently Saturn square Sun and trine Asc.

Taurean Alchemist
Taurean Alchemist

let us skull absynthe together Prowly baby

andromeda
andromeda

Le chaim, cheers, skohl *glug glug glug*

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

Girl. I totally used to feel that way. Totally. Raised by two government workers, one of whom is an accountant…. Love them, yes. Think like them? So..uh. no. My dealio…. dinno if this is a place to start? But- I figure, this is MY saturn, I can interpret it MY way. My mother f**king details. My badass reality check, my “definition” of planning- as long as it works. Cause Saturn has to work. Most of the stuff I hated about the grey government worker life was because it didn’t actually work or serve a purpose- to me….it just looked like… Read more »

BlackStarAries
BlackStarAries

And sos…. I didn’t mean to be so Aries bombastic…..I’m sure you don’t need a power chearleading session, I waz just going off a bit….

XO

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

Prowlers make it fun.

years ago I gave up smoking (after 26 years) by treating it as a bonus not a trial ……. flicking that switch mentally is empowering and turns a job from being ‘hard’ & ‘tedious’ into ’empowering’ with great outcomes. turn it into a video game where you are the ultimate super-heroine who delivers you your own greatest dreams?

xox 😉

KP
KP

I have Venus at 14 degrees Libra in my ninth house. :/ It may be on my Capricorn ascendant as well, but I’m not entirely sure of the time of my birth.

I guess I could use a makeover, but I would really appreciate some light hearted fluff after that Venus in Scorp shitstorm…

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

KP, sorry to break it to ya but Saturn action won’t deliver the lighthearted fluff. With Saturn Venus transit in Libra I’m seeing doorslamming and heartcrumblings saved by the grace of “Frankly my DEAR, I don’t give a damn” conclusions. Good luck.

KP
KP

Yikes… I feel like I haven’t gotten a break since before Zap Zone ’10.

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Uranus at 14 deg Libra 8 )

Lord have mercy on my friends, family and peers.

Shannon
Shannon

I have one of these : )
Got it in Montmartre : )
Along with the Dali tarot deck.
Sooooo pretty!

quapricoro
quapricoro

newbie here…
do we look at natal chart for these degrees, or transits?…

Anonymous
Anonymous

Look at your natal – anything in the degrees and signs mentioned above will be triggered and the house they sit in in your natal will be the area of your life/psyche Saturn effects.

quapricoro
quapricoro

thanks so much anonymous.

venus @ 11 deg, aries
pluto @ 13 deg lib.

so I’m in. yes.

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