The Saturn Neptune Continuum

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What relationship do your Saturn and Neptune have?

Are they in aspect?

There is an old astro-saying that Neptune always benefits from a little Saturn and i think it’s true.

Too much Saturn and you’re a corporate drone, everything measured out, scheduled and tracked for performance. Too much Neptune and you’re a mess: lying in the gutter thinking you’re in Atlantis.

People with a nice Saturn-Neptune link (conjunction, trine, sextile) naturally get this balance right. They’re functional but able to let rip and enjoy some reverie, artistic but with deadlines etc.

People with NO link need to kind of build it and those with the challenging Saturn-Neptune aspects can cleave to one or the other and demonise the planet/function they are not using.

eg; a Lower Neptunian type who is an irresponsible grifter, venomous toward anyone with a mortgage or responsibilities. Or a rigid suit, so status-aware that he/she can barely even see someone out of their network…eg; not from the right school or whatever. There is that classic story where some scientists go ultra-Saturn establishment-logic but then they marry Neptune, lol.

Kim Falconer and I discuss this a lot. She sent this to me the other day: Saturn is this powerful edifice to the ego that says ‘I am’ and Neptune is so far beyond that ‘I am everything’. While in human bodies, we need both and when they work together life becomes quite magical.

If we try to honor one over the other (do only Saturn corporate job etc) Neptune comes in the back door via alcoholism, addiction, abuse. Do only the spiritual road and we have to beg for clothes and food, or die because the body has been ignored (or go mad because we have no sense of ‘I’)

Does anyone remember that full on Saturn Neptune Opposition Weirding of late 2005 and 2006. That played out in a LOT of relationships…one person being Saturn and the other Neptune or peeps having to choose between a Saturn option (tried and true) or a Neptunian vision.

Saturn is always easier to handle after the first Saturn Return…

So what are yours doing?

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rs
rs

my neptune is in capricorn in the 8th house. Does that mean anything . But no aspects with saturn, may be some minor aspect.

R2
R2

What about Saturn-Jupiter?How different?

Owl
Owl

OMG yes. Saturn in Virgo in 7th tightly square Neptune in Sag in 10th. Could do lower neptune with high saturn vibe simultaneously throughout 20’s, but peaked lower neptune during beginning of saturn return and dated lower neptune types. Now 31 and feel completely changed. No more alcoholic liar psycho friends, but now I have artistic, psychic etc friends. I am much more saturn now – pauper + spiritual pursuits, plus manage to combine a bit of neptune but not overboard, i.e. don’t drink as much, no dodgy love triangles, no strip clubs with strangers to cure saturnine work boredom,… Read more »

goldfleece-risingfish
goldfleece-risingfish

Hi Owl,

I think that comment ” My Father was vague and ineffectual.” is the perfect start to a book. Would have me walking to the counter with a copy in my hands.

triple air gem
triple air gem

I have them in opposition natally – sat in Gem in 5th and Nep in sagg in 10th house… going from one extreme to another in work life and creativity? alternating between nuts and sober in scope? late 2005-2006 makes a little more sense now: massive change – lots of anxiety that went along with it but ultimately good and liberating… once I stopped freaking out about it… but I felt like I was dying on some level – lots of levels actually… so seriously intense that I went to ground for better part of a year. the outside looked… Read more »

elderly lioness
elderly lioness

I have Neptune in Libra 8 sextile my Sun 11, Saturn 12, Pluto 12 conjunction in Leo. Can’t say I’m a control freak or a drug fiend. This combination also creates a finger of fate to my moon in Pisces 10 through quincunx aspects. God knows what it all means.

U7
U7

I have Saturn in Sag in the 6th, and Neptune in Cap in the 7th,

No aspect so yes definitely, I have some work to do!

I use the way my body responds in order to gauge the integrity & longevity of partnerships.
Ie, opting NOT to date the French man who smokes too much, drinks too much, never exercises and stays up late. No way Hose!

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

well im a bit confused by astrodienst… I have no aspects between saturn and neptune… and that makes sense to me… but i have neptune square moon, and moon square saturn… blah! I know my neptune and saturn stuff to some degree though, pre-saturn return i thought i was a fish or a intergalactic species, and drank too much, smoked too much, and spent most of my time in fantasy and feeling sorry for myself… Saturn gave me a huge kick, and for the first time in my life I was alone with my demons, no housemates, no partners, (a… Read more »

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

But what would a good neptune/saturn aspect look like???

minniethemooch
minniethemooch

Saturn in the 9th House in Pisces, 17 degrees, conjunct the MC, trining Neptune in the 4th in Scorpio, (retrograde), 17 degrees, and Sun in Cancer 12th house, 24 degrees. = dunno. Love of wine and tendency to adhere to the straight and narrow, keeping those Neptunian wild dreams at bay.

DoubleMutable
DoubleMutable

Uh oh, my Saturn is in opposition to Neptune! Saturn in Gemini vs. Neptune in Sagg.

Is this disastrous or is there some good news?

goldfleece-risingfish
goldfleece-risingfish

Hi Double mutable, we have the same conjunction, and this recenlty came up in my Phoenix reading, i’m not so scared anymore, at first it meant that i took drug taking too seriously !which i have done as our lady of mispent youth, and i go through phases when i day dream about opium dens in ye olde days/daze…and then jump on the hoochie wa-wa wagon for a month or so. One thing that hit me (erm, over the head with a heavy frypan) was that there needs to be balance, and that Neptune needs to be creative, and Saturn… Read more »

bun
bun

Saturn in virgo in the second house squaring neptune in Sag in the 5th house. Conflicted, much. Im not sure what to make of this one….
I suppose that in essence, when I decide to have fun, I do it proper-styles, but when work needs to happen, I go all iron-discipline and OCD. Im ALWAYS early for appointments. Deep down I would like to go all out and freakin’ bacchanal when its time to have fun, but if I can think of ANY pressing reason why I shouldn’t (Oh, thats right, I have children…etc) then staid reality and responsibility wins, everytime.
Sigh.

Baristagem
Baristagem

😯

20 deg Saturn in Virgo in the 6th House squares 21 deg Neptune in Sagg in the 9th House conjunct MC…

2005-2006 The Saturn/Neptune link explains so much of that year!!

Geezuz 😯

I have been working hard on my Saturn for the last 3 years- Saturn Return & now I am trying to balance that out with some good vibes of Neptune. It is good to have learnt some Saturn boundaries because in my twenties there was that very confusing Neptune time in 2005-06… I am a Pisces Rising…

Pisces in CQ
Pisces in CQ

ooohweeee. late 2005 – 2006? Trying to end the most passionate fling in my life. I’m not sure who was being the saturnian and who was wallowing in the neptune. I think we kept swapping roles but I felt like I was drowning in physical desire that was sending me nuts with my brain screeching ‘you have to get out of this thing’! All the while the worst episode of office tactics in my working life was happening with incredibly horrible people as my managers at the time. Wierding is an apt desription of that time indeed. Neptune/Saturn opposition by… Read more »

Bluesky
Bluesky

what astrological aspects and planets rule that “drowning in physical desire” thing that combines with “you have to get out of this!” thing? Is that Neptune/Saturn? It felt like a tsunami, earthquake, or similar natural disaster had hit my life when this dynamic hit me. It was like a riptide that carried me way out to sea and I could not for the life of me swim to the side. Still making my way back to shore, several years later…

Pisces in CQ
Pisces in CQ

oh ditto, though have built a new life

Bluesky
Bluesky

what’s the secret to building a new life?

virgolicious
virgolicious

starting

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

good answer Virgolicious!! Bluesky – list on one page all the things you want to leave behing. people, places, habits, parts of you that no longer apply or never really fit…. then on another draw your ideal world – words, pictures – make a vision board. get out there & act on what you can act on – even if its new routines & rad stuff that takes you out of your comfort zone (like tango lessons or learning the bongo drums you get my drift) as Virgolicious wisely said – starting is the key!! rad evolution rocks when one’s… Read more »

Bluesky
Bluesky

Thanks virgolicious and rockstar. I love homework.

So:
1) start
2) lists
3) tango

Anonymous
Anonymous

Saturn in XI , 97 conjunction Saturn-Neptune. Saturn in capricorn by 19.2 degrees. anyone know what that means?

Glow
Glow

loose conjunction – 8 degrees. Think it counts?

AstroFix
AstroFix

Saturn at 26 Cancer sesquiquadrate Neptuen at 14 Sag. I think it can give the ability to turn dreams into reality 🙂

virgo rising
virgo rising

I have Saturn in 1 deg. Cancer conjunct 27 deg. Gemini MH and Neptune in 1 deg. Libra conjunct 27 deg. Virgo ascendant making an exact square. I have literally felt like I was on the cross for much of my life and ultimately learned how to resolve them…after an arduous spiritual journey.

Bluesky
Bluesky

Yes, 2005 and 2006. A nasty prequel to Saturn in Virgo (my sun sign). And I can see the relationship between my Neptune (4th house) and Saturn (7th house). Now divorced and family all but torn apart, the last couple of years have been the most challenging of my whole life. And, my chart is just chock full of fun things… Neptune IS in harsh angle to Saturn but, given what I just went through, it shouldn’t be surprising. And, yes, it played out in one partner (my-ex) being very low Neptune and practically in the gutter and me tending… Read more »

emily
emily

I have neptune conjunct my asc in sagittarius. Since pluto has moved into capricorn in my first house, I have literally made a 180 change. And I am a lot like your definition of a saturn person. I like it and definitely needed it. Its like I can see what everyone else was seeing all along.

emily
emily

Well, i should be more clear. I’m saturn in every way but working long hours. I wouldn’t do that to myself!

Andromeda
Andromeda

Neptune in Sagg 6 deg
Saturn in Cancer 11 deg

I think that’s no relationship? Needs to build a bridge?

Taurean Love Expert
Taurean Love Expert

Whoops, it’s not a trine… It’s quincunx I think, tho I can never remember what that means…

whatevs
whatevs

wiki says “can mean an area of self neglect in a person’s life (especially health), or obligations being forced on a person”

Taurean Love Expert
Taurean Love Expert

Saturn in Aries in the 10th trines Neptune in Scorp in the 5th for me. My work/play balance is not bad as a rule, tho it’s been more work than play lately.

Water Pig
Water Pig

Oh that explains a lot 05-06 saturn neptune weirding… He had too much neptune going on and I was trying to be saturn-like and build my life up if that makes any sense. Sadly, I think neptune took over completely and last I heard things were really not going well for him. A really sweet (sag sun scorp moon) guy but big neptune issues… so sad. Oh prowlncat I just realised your partner had sag sun and scorp moon, too. I also have moon in 7th but in aquarius. I haven’t processed it completely either. It was a weird time… Read more »

nebulous virgo
nebulous virgo

saturn conjunct pluto in libra – both sextiling saggo neptune.

I have saturn/pluto/mercury opposite AC, so when I was younger I was definitely more saturn. Neptune squares my virgo sun, so they all play together…

I do both now – neptunian dreaming/partying but I always get up in the morning and do my job. I have had very strange working days (hungover, needing sleep, feeling really weird) but I never missed a daytime responsibility because of a neptunian night.

dream meets discipline, I guess.

prowlncat
prowlncat

the start of 2006 was the worst year of my entire existance … perhaps even into the past 5 lifetimes. Hideous relationship with the Psycho Saggo with Scorp Moon …. urghh still haven’t processed that one and to this day prone to random bouts of pure hate or fantasising about his prolonged miserable demise – which of course I can’t stand, having a Sagg moon in the 7th and wanting to process and move on from relationship crap pronto. Ermm sorry about that rant folks … Saturn/Neptune are in opposition. Saturn in Gem in the 12th, Neptune in Sagg in… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Agree with your method of dealing with it. Best method I’ve found too

goldfleece-risingfish
goldfleece-risingfish

Hi Prowlncat, I have Saturn/Neptune conjunct too, Saturn in Gem, but 3rd house, and Neptune in sagg in 9th house. I recently emailed Mystic in a pickle after my Phoenix reading had bought it to light a bit (actaully, a bit is a slight understatement), I was greaful for a reply as I was asking if I should have a Neptune Shrine and burn Opium inscense beside him all day, to help placate. I’m working on turning my whole attitude about it around, many thanks to the words of Mystic and Kim Falconer, just have to shift my thought process… Read more »

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

Wow, thanks for this astro lesson Mystic.
Whaddya know, my Sag Neptune in 1st house & Leo Saturn in 10th are in a trine. Tis nice… Though admittedly with my moon placement I can out-Neptune meself, not so much lying in the gutter thinking it’s Atlantis (funny, there’s a 2-hour doco with num Josh Bernstein on right now), it’s more that I wanna go back to Arcturus, UPV phone home…

Savannah
Savannah

That 05/06 time was really the first big make or break of relationship with ex. It blasted the reality of our relationship and him into my being like a jackhammer stuck in my brain.

Saturn trine Neptune. Yes it fits. Did both when younger but always snapped back into middle road because neither extreme felt right. Agree Saturn is way easier to handle after the first.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Saturn & Neptune one full house apart, simple, no triangles, stars, squares & whatever all those other little symbols are. (still in Star School level 1 after 3 half years). End of 2005 & 06 was still adjusting to my move to ‘Burbs from CBD even tho’ real close to City & losing friends, barking dogs, loud roosters, trains & trams cats on heat, & 1 very unhappy cockatoo a few meters away. Had no idea ‘Burbs were so noisy. I LEARN should be motto instead of I SEE. Have had 2 Saturn returns. The first absolutley life changing &… Read more »

shell
shell

Pegs, I dont know if this will help re you reading the chart, but my strategy is to just look at the circle and work out the angles as triangles. So you get squares (as a right angle) trines as a long angle and sextiles as a short one. Also, just count the sign bits. They are all 30. So two between is 60 and a sextile, 3 is 90 and a square, 40 is 120 and a trine. The final bit is looking at air water etc and cardinal fixed etc. If two planets are in diff signs of… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

Shell, treasure the above, am now getting it!!!
Loaded 11th & 8th houses and 10th & Uranus alone
a long way away in 6th in Gemini. That could be worth looking
into further.
Lots of lines between 11th & 8th. Red & Blue ones.
Yup, making triangles with many straight lines between
11th & 8th.
OMG………………………..DIY Astro. Thank you. All will be revealed.
Eventually.

shell
shell

Yay!

saggigal
saggigal

Saturn in Virgo in the 5th and Neptune in Sagg in the 8th ….i swing between decadent romantic travel and mystical worldview to hard ass responsibility and awesome determined work ethic in my creative life. so far its worked for me, though i realise i come across as contradictory to some. But, meh, it’s me!

Bluesky
Bluesky

I understand this! And I think it can work to be contradictory—especially if that is how we are wired.

saggigal
saggigal

at least it makes us interesting! 🙂

Lilly
Lilly

Hee hee! Both in Capricorn, separated by a degree.
Participating in NaNoWriMo for the first time and finding it EXTREMELY easy to hit deadlines while still producing something nice. Get to chock it up to the Saturn-Neptune, alright!
Was calculating how Saturian or Neptunian I am, but will do that later. I remember them both being fairly high!

whatevs
whatevs

Ha! just checked out NaNoWriMo – good luck! Let us know if you make it – would love to read it.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

I checked NaNoWriMo after whatevs note, wow, that is wonderful 🙂

Pegasus
Pegasus

O Lilly, will you ghost write my visual memories of 60′ 70’s 80′ 90′
& the 2000’s?

hummingbird
hummingbird

Yes had never heard of it before – sounds unreal! Good Luck!!! But now, you shouldn’t be reading this, you should just be tapping out your 50000 words!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Me too haha. I guess you are in my generation. Though mine is a little farther apart but still conjunct in capricorn. Does this mean we are more saturn than neptune? I feel the other way around. Hrm.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

That is one of the aspects am being hit on the head in this life. Not only Saturn oppose Neptune, both are at house cusps and conjunct other planets. It is like a very crowded bar scene, impossible to see who is who and doing what. Saturn at 29 Taurus conjuct Venus at 29 Taurus at 2/3 house cusp combo oppose Neptune at 1 Sag (retro) and Jupiter at 29 Scorp (retro) at 8/9 house cusp. The way I read it: Insecurity about personal wealth (Saturn-Venus in 2nd house) and being a late learner (creeping into 3rd house) requires me… Read more »

LeoG
LeoG

Sound like you got the nearly same thing goin on as me! Same aspects just in slightly different houses. Think id be safe in saying you were born in June’71? And yes sometimes have to look at my life, particularly love life and wonder WTF?
one mess after another.

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

Yep, the date is correct.

The chart looks like two prim and proper bodies (Saturn/Venus in Taurus) sitting with two clueless housemates (Neptune/Jupiter) for an afternoon tea. At best all I can say is – this will do for the moment. This being dark moon I shrug but still… depressing when it comes to navigating life 🙂

sagitta
sagitta

“looks like two prim and proper bodies (Saturn/Venus in Taurus) sitting with two clueless housemates (Neptune/Jupiter) for an afternoon tea.” I like that way of visualizing the planets and their interaction. I have Moon-Saturn in Aquarius 3rd making a square to Sun-Neptune in Scorpio 12th. Moon-Saturn sounds to me like “Mater and Pater”—the traditional parental unit. They meet Neptune-Sun, the Pink-Unicorn-Wannabe-Rock-Star –-in an elevator. To me, the elevator is a marriage of technology (aquarius) and close quarters (scorpio/12th house.) It’s as if there is no conversation and a lot of tension (square aspect) because the lines are so clearly drawn,… Read more »

sagitta
sagitta

“Pluto trines Saturn/Venus, sextiles Neptune/Jupiter, so I decided if in doubt who is doing what, ask Pluto in Virgo 7th house” I guess you are saying that you try to resolve the conflict between your need for security and status (2-3 house) and your values (8-9 house) by using Pluto in the 7th (deep transforming love?) as something that can fill the gap. But it doesn’t quite happen because Pluto squares the sun in your 3rd (there are problems in self-expression/communication?) Is that a somewhat accurate translation? It really makes me think about my own chart, where I am trying… Read more »

Quadrupled
Quadrupled

I remember reading opposition comes with other people, squares are your own work. So a square between Saturn/Moon – Neptune/Sun would be (my uneducated guess) a need for emotional security at cross roads with a longing for dissolving boundaries. I haven’t passed the exams on basic planetary aspects yet, so only can offer half-baked wisdom: Emotional security supports your life’s work, Pluto invites a transcendental approach (by trine to Neptune/Sun). 🙂 It is very much like mix and match keywords and see what will pop up 🙂

Anonymous
Anonymous

make that COFFEE and chocolate…green tea not so much an indulgence as a cleansing aid!

aqualibraleo
aqualibraleo

just getting into this in more depth, the astro that is beyond sun, moon and rising. Finsing it fun and fascinating.

I have Saturn in Leo sextile Jupiter in Gemini at 1degree.

Never had an problem partying when younger, preferred it to work!
As i get older prefer to work and party in modest style. Green tea and chocolate is my big indulgence these days but I will NEVER say NO to bubbles, anytime of day or night.

whatevs
whatevs

Mine are quincunx which wiki says “can mean an area of self neglect in a person’s life (especially health), or obligations being forced on a person” I never knew what that little symbol meant and always overlooked it because it seemed low key and not important but that description is 100% true – I’ve had responsibility forced on me since childhood and sometimes I don’t exfoliate/moisturise as often as I should. My saturn’s in the 10th in opposition (wiki says can be “a creative power source”) to Mercury & Venus in the 5th – I am totally driven when writing… Read more »

shell
shell

Saturn as authority figure, so yes to father. Though sun can also be father too? I have seen interps of Saturn rising as problems with father, but that doesn’t quite hold in my case, ours is more a relationship forged through problems shared. So I think you’ve gotta take some poetic license with it.

Plum
Plum

I have them in quincunx too, also with Saturn in the 10th. And then Jupiter is also quincunx Saturn, as well as sextile Neptune, so I think that makes a yod (?) with Saturn at the apex.

It’s an ongoing struggle for me to keep the balance between my perceived obligations to others (and tendency not to ask for help) and my need for escapist fun and, linked to this, between my physical and mental health.

whatevs
whatevs

Hey Plum – I’ve never really understood yods but I have one too apparently – north node neptune lilith/ascendant. Neptune’s the “apex” is that the one that’s on its own? And yes – the swing to escapism away from all the saturnine responsibility is phenomenal. Saturn is SO helpful with that for me – if ever there were touch and go moments where it was an obvious turning point of too much escapism I’d pull out of the nosedive and back on track – is the saviour. That saturn mars neptune arrangement I have going on has been a bit… Read more »

Plum
Plum

Hi there. I don’t know much about yods at all but read a little yesterday, having reminded myself that I have one! The planet/point on its own is the apex (the one the yod is ‘pointing’ towards). Quincunx energy between planets is supposed to be difficult to resolve – neither complementary nor straightforwardly in conflict. I have Saturn/South Node at the apex in the 11th house (not the 10th, for some reason I often think it’s there but it’s not). The other two planets are Neptune (4th) and Jupiter (6th). The way this plays out, I think, is in the… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

Am going to ponder this – it seems important & interesting. Will hook up with you in a post over the next few days or when I see your name. WOW your lilith and north node are conjunct – AND in the 5th? MAD

The Empress
The Empress

Oh boy. This is interesting. Mine are in opposition Sag Neptune – Taurus Saturn – and I can see that while I have a healthy respect for money and the stability it can bring I also see it as a tad unimportant at times. This is my vehement Neptune self of course. I am not a material person as such although I do like nice things – that may sound contradictory but I’m of the believe that I never truly own anything. It’s transient, to be used for a time. See Neptunian. 😮 I am not attached to things. This… Read more »

Hippychic
Hippychic

mmm all very Interesting reading esp about the balancing act. I don’t really have aspect action (saturn Taurus 6 retrograde house 1, Neptune Scorpio 27 house 8) But I must say pre Saturn return was more Saturn based with loads of that rebelious neptunian stuff mentioned above to the point where my 20’s are pretty much a blur, and post Saturn return was pretty much the opposite, yes pauper on a spritual mission and almost no vices to speak of. And now half way through the second Saturn cycle (and the current slapfest of Saturn through my Libra 5) and… Read more »

Hippychic
Hippychic

That smiley dude is suppose to be an 8 what the?
But the cat is on the keyboard trying to hurry me along as it is close to dinner, so who knows.

Ms.
Ms.

urgh, I knew that wouldn’t be an aspect holding hands. My sagg neptune is squared virgo saturn -but not closely. read the write up, how depressing. I was always functional with tasks per say but I can go right out into space at times, my early early years were so dreamy I was in a trance of colour and light. Esp cause I work so hard with venus and its conjunct neptune. My mother was horrified (and I got another one of her lovely messages the other day expressing her concern for my options after I told her I received… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

OH GOD They cannot let go of who they thought you were when you were small sometimes sweetheart – congratulations on the distinction – they don’t come easy and you’ve worked your ass off for it. YOU DESERVE IT and the future is what you make of it not what your mother fears most for you.

We are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars and I suspect soon you will be one of them – make sure you wave xxx

Ms.
Ms.

exactly, I politely reminded her I was not 5 anymore but a woman and if I am too weak, god help the rest of the world. My mothers thing is part fear part envy part retardation. love her though but urrrrrrrgh. so can’t be bothered having that conversation. wacked out leo moon syndrome I am still not completely happy with the work but I am getting there. Did I mention I am a chronic perfectionist. Nothing has been easy so I am expecting more of the same but wiser. Saturn is coming for me and the rest of my chart.… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

yeah was gonna run the envy flag up the pole as well but figured you’ve got enough to think about right now and mother depth angst is maybe not productive/potentially immobilising. I’m gem asc babe – the love’s always here if you need it and it’s bottomless. ONWARDS : o)

Pegasus
Pegasus

‘If it’s not one thing, it’s amother’.

whatevs
whatevs

hehehe

upbeat scorp
upbeat scorp

Ms darling, can you help me with the translation too? My online chart says I have Saturn square Neptune.

Saturn Virgo 13 degrees 4th
Neptune Saggo 17 degrees 7th.

I think I have the work/art balance a little too in favour of the work side.. but then when I think about what I do for work.. it is basically socialising and having fun. I could not abide a workplace where I actually had to sit in a room and not talk to people and tap away at a computer.

Ms.
Ms.

having a look now

Ms.
Ms.

ok forgot sorry you have neptune in the 7th squaring saturn 4th house at 4 degree the reason you me and the above have this is because these planets move in more generational cycles so our age group will have this same aspect. its the other planets relating to it and the houses that will make it personal you have the same sextile lex is talking about 1 degree (thats strong) in libra 5th house. wow your 7th house is very active. merc conjunct neptune in sagg, mars conjunct neptune, sun in 7th on the DSC. in scorpio. so, in… Read more »

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

hey hey, we born within a coupla months of eachother, so I have same aspect. A loose Saturn-Neptune square. Definitely aware of my ability to swing from Saturnine to Neptunian, and often in the one ‘session’. Being a Cap with Saturn in 1st house, I think I’ve managed to make it work. My Uni days were spent boozing up large, then getting home at midnight and writing a High Distinction essay in three hours flat, sleeping for a couple of hours and being fresh and ready for a dance class at 9am. That remarkable ‘gift’ has essentially made me lazy… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

bang on doll. uranus/sun/merc conjunction (sun is ontop of merc though)

uranus as mediator -awesome! yes there is a feel of being objective and able to see yourself even though its happening to you. Hilar to think what uranus would say to them both though?

love the cap guide to nailing it. drink all night. bang out essay. win. repeat. I have always secretly wanted to swap a virgo planet for a touch of cap 😉
cap runs my 7th house. Biz marriage partner thing urges. Circe is there too.

saturn must be great for piano x

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

saturn on piano practices dutifully and beautifully but in performance freezes, panics and then plays REALLY REALLY FAST til it’s over. thank goodness neptune steps in to say ‘pause’ and ‘breath’ x

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

Ms and Lexicorn, I also have a Saturn (11th in Virgo) and Neptune (2nd in Sag) square, but I am not so dutiful with my practicing. The fact is that I _love_ making stuff… it doesn’t have to be big, tangible or anything special. But its that I really do need to do to keep myself happy. When I was a child, I had to be better than everyone else and was driven, in my teens I feared failure and kept it to myself and then propt up other talent, being the person behind the spotlight, turning people are talent… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

love that quote. something very similar happened to me when I wanted to create the show, not be on it. x

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

I so hear you V-a-la-G-G. As a kid and teenager I was so unbelievably prolific, never stopped writing, playing, composing, creating. I produced art like sweat. Sure, a lot of it was as stinky as swear, but it was at least pouring out of me. These days I spend most of my time and a significant part of my creative quotient supporting, promoting and improving other peoples’ creative work. I do love doing it, am very passionate about that. But in the last year I cannot escape the haunting that I really haven’t ‘produced’ much myself in quite a bit… Read more »

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

Thanks guys… this has been remarkably enlightening!
My full moon resolutions were to be more creative within certain realms and fuq of the fear.
Then I went and saw the album launch of a long loved friend (we have known each other for 26 years now). it was the culmination of almost a decade of hard slog. And it was amazing.
Truly inspirational.
*bursts with pride*

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

Me three. Saturn in virgo sq Neptune in Sagg, with Uranus conjunct sun in Scorp…. Lazy as fuq academically, but the proud owner of a masters degree, and can get great marks with little effort,, but when I put it in – watch out world! Saturn has become my friend in recent years, but I struggle with Neptune, I think a major part of that is my tres Saturnian/Neptunian Ma has a total do as I say, not as I do attitude towads me and alcohol. which ois totally unfair, as it means relaxing can be a bitch when i… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

I am surrounded by smarty pants like you and lex (supercrab) but I was never gifted in school life to walk through straight A’s. I struggle with certain real world things I admit but neptune needs her dream space and saturn needs control and order. giving them the correct arena has been a hard balancing act. congrats on going dry x

Kimmy
Kimmy

Hi Ms! Saturn often becomes more of an ally (less of a ‘parent’ or judge) as we mature. With the north node in there with Sa/Li AND ma/ju, I can see the feeling of ‘contained focus’ growing along with an awareness of the vast interconnection with all life. Virgo is happy to keep looking through the macro lens, but Neptune is a pull towards epic landscapes . . . like the entire universe!

Ms.
Ms.

aww thanks Kim xox

Luna
Luna

Don’t get it: Neptune 24 Libra but due to some cuspyweirdness, 2nd house while Saturn cj Venus in Scorpio also 2nd? About 12 degrees apart. Just know really fuqed up.

whatevs
whatevs

Am not sure that is fuqd up at all 12 degrees is OK – but re the houses sometimes they’re bigger depending on how close the the equator you were when born – is that right astro fiends? Last night I looked at the astro of an ex and his 5th house encompassed my 3rd 4th AND 5th. Absurd.

shell
shell

Saturn rising from 12th, Neptune in Sag in 5th. They make one of those funny angles, 135 degrees or something.
But really Saturn lays a big tight fist over my Asc, Mars, Sun and Merc, whilst Neptune goes all square flaky on my Pisces moon. With nary a major aspect in sight to spread the love.
Neptune had his way for a while. Saturn seems to have the reigns on most of the time these days, boring old fart. I still do a fabulous line in emotional fantasy though, it provides excellent fuel for the self flaggelation

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

“I still do a fabulous line in emotional fantasy though, it provides excellent fuel for the self flaggelation” – have you been peeking into my journals, shell, spesh my still trying to do pisces moon and virgo sun in a lovely dance?

shell
shell

I go through bits of being ‘I’m a caring giving person, sharing makes me happy, blue birds on my shoulders etc’ (8th house moon) and it’s like I can hold on to that for a bit and then I get all a bit bouncing on my toes ‘I want this to happen now and you know it’s just me being chirpy and I’ll just do this’ and then it doesn’t go anywhere near like the little fantasy I’d worked up and along comes 12th house Saturn to assess the psych carnage and berate me for being a fool (which of… Read more »

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

Anytime I go tripping (inside my head, into my heart, soul, whatevs) I always have a look around while I’m doing it, to see if Saturn’s tut-tutting. You really think you’re better pre SatRx? Maybe in one way, but hold on to the gems, shell, coz they ain’t going nowhere; those gems are there to stay.

Hope you’ll have a good Phoenix New Moon time/ritual/whatever you do.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

My Saturn in Cap, 6 degrees, 7th house, exact sextile Scorp Neptune 6 degrees, 5th.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Sweetie, your talking like THAT again, can you elaborate for this
Map challenged personage?
Please 🙂

shell
shell

I’ll have a shot at translating. She’s Saturn in early cap, 7th and Neptune early scorp, in 5th. The sextile is good, but not easy (like a trine) you have to bother. So in creativity and falling in love, sweetie may have a tendency toward want to dissolve all boundaries and plunge into depths, but should be able to then solidy that into business/partnership ways by building structures around it.
????

shell
shell

….toward ‘wanting’ …. And …be able to then solidify ….

Pegasus
Pegasus

Beautifully put Shell, your’e good.
Such a slow learning curve for me but worth it.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

That’s pretty true shell as ~am~ taking relationship stuff (Saturn in 7th) and magical transformational stuff that came out of that (Saturn sextile Neptune) and putting it into my path…Neptune trine Pisces MC. That’s then where Uranus in Aries comes in. The relationship stuff tho is only part of the story but integral to the theme.

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

SP help me out?

Saturn 29 Aqua -12th
Neptune 15 Scorp – 9th

& seconding Pegs – translate pls? xox

shell
shell

I dont think Sweetie is here right now Rockstar, but seems like they may only be in minor aspect. 135. One of those squares with funny lines through it? Like a crappy trine rather than a nice one. Saturn in the 12th though, you seem to manage that well. I have it and have created as being some psych flogging. Maybe in aqua he’s too busy exploring the space time continuum. Neptune in 9th sounds fun, dissolving boundaries of learning/higher mind. Travel as mega escapism, caves and volcanos? Ok I am kind of being silly, but the summary is their… Read more »

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

hey thanks shell – through the psyche flog & out the other side thank fug – hell yeah re travel escapism …. BTW am addicted to climbing LIVE volcanos. is like Formula 1 – do one you’re hooked! Had huge dust up with Sag ex hub (probly never mentioned him / another life time lol) re why we couldn’t sleep overnight on Stromboli once we’d hiked to the top, didn’t want to leave – where Ingrid Bergman filmed ‘Return to Stromboli’ – an Island off Sicily – erupted every 15 mins or so, ground shaking beneath us, HOOKED!! Cave scare… Read more »

shell
shell

Oh that’s brilliant re the volcanos!

Quadfish
Quadfish

Hey Sweetie, I just noticed you are about to have Pluto transit your natal Saturn. Back in 2001 Pluto was conjunct my natal Saturn (in Sag, 6th house), which also sqaures my Pisces Sun. ). I didn’t study Asto details back then, but since have gone back to major events in my life to look for patterns and triggers. At the time something just hit me and I decided since the kids were raised, and I was an overweight invisible woman, I needed to focus on me. I started walking everyday at lunch, broke up with white food, sugar and… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Just saw your post to me Quadfish….

Congrats on losing the weight! That’s truly transformational and hope you are enjoying the new you. Pluto on your Saturn, 6th, certainly sounds very 6th house/diet/health oriented.

That’s a very positive manifestation with them squaring your Sun as Pluto conjunct my Saturn will be squaring my Sun too. And your Uranus was involved? As Uranus will be on my Merc/Sun eventually, they will also be square the Pluto Saturn combo.

You are living proof that they can indeed be very productive and positive. Thanks for the inspiring heads up!

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Think with all that action and all that action being sextile Neptune, as long as I keep on my spiritual path and stay true to those aspirations, all should go well.

Mystic Medusa
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