Outer-Planet Peeps: Are You One Of Them?

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If you ever look at old astro books, that work only on then-known inner planets, you’ll see they essentially categorize people according to these types. Not only that, the Sun, Moon and inner planets sort of follow quite distinct polarities.

Sun and Moon – Yang and Yin, Male and Female.   Mercury is a Hermaphrodite. True.  Venus and Mars – Yin and Yang/Female and Male…obviously. Jupiter is surely Yin and Saturn mega-Yang.  And you have your very Jupiter-types (Jovial) and then the Saturn ones who are best described as Saturnine.

There are Mars (warrior-sporting heroes-actors playing heroic roles) peeps and Venus (super-mods, actresses chanelling Venusian archetypes) and so on.

They are all familiar.  Re the Yin-Yang thing. You ideally do both. How weird that it is a compliment to be told you have a Sunny disposition but that the Moon has been relegated to “loonie” and/or the slightly less batty “mooning about.”

So there is that and then of course there are the Outer Planets: Neptune, Uranus and Pluto – they’re named after male Gods of the ancient times but honestly, i’ve read fantastic arguments for each and every one of them being neither gender and not even so linked to the Gods of myth that they are named after. eg; Uranus is more like Prometheus in action.

Whole books have been written about this stuff – see some of the ones i like in the Amazon book reccie thing on the left – but for the sake of today: lots of people don’t have much outer planet energy going on in their charts. Yes they might have Pluto – say – in Libra but so does their entire generation. So you actually do have a hell of a lot of  Saturn, Jupiter, Mars etc types fanging about the place.

But SOME people are Outer Planet Peeps. This is when Uranus, Neptune or Pluto is totally transmitting through you by being attached to one of the inner, personal planets.  So anyone of these Outer Planets conjunct (let’s just ignore the other aspects for now, conjunct means right next to, less than five degrees) Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars or Venus means your are an Outer Planet Person. Ditto on your Ascendent or Midheaven.

You’re out-there, you’ve got moxy, you’re channelling something other-worldly every time you try to have a relationship, write a letter, get laid, make money etc. You’re both super-ancient and of the future. It takes a while to grow into being an Outer Planet Person…It’s intense, weird and magic.

Thoughts?

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Aglaia
Aglaia

Pluto & Uranus, & Saturn overload. Heavy Scorpio and Capricorn influence. I’m part of the generation of outer planet “stellium” ppl who are now in their 20s when Saturn was in Cap and Pluto in scop. Sun, Merc, Mars, are in scorp conjunct pluto in the fourth house w/ mars directly on the IC conjunct lillith in scorp (I will never get married). Venus is in Cap conjunct Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in the 5th house opposite moon. With leo rising, the Sun and 5th house are emphasized. Moon and Jupiter in the 11th house balances it all out. Along… Read more »

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

Great info, Mystic! So glad to have read this. Most enlightening.

I have Pluto conjunct Moon (7th house), and Uranus conjunct Mercury exact (8th house), in Libra.

Is it appropriate to describe a “conjunct” with the True Node? If so, I have Neptune conjunct True Node in Sagg (9th house).

Scorporation, Inc.
Scorporation, Inc.

So often in this life I’ve felt like a round peg trying to be pushed through a square hole. I guess this makes it official! haha

monte
monte

Hi, kinda just found this and just wanted to say that imo Jupiter is definitely yang and Saturn yin. Jupiter is expansive, open and outward in its’ energy. Saturn is closed off, contracted and inward. Jupiter rules one of the most extroverted signs in Sagg and Saturn rules the cool and closeted Cap.

Ms.
Ms.

hmmm. re read this post, I know I was meant to say the venus/neptune conjunction that is exact. My love art creation cycle has been a full on trip. Does anyone else have this aspect? would be curious to know

seagoat
seagoat

I do. And Uranus conjunct Pluto on AC, Saturn conjunct Chiron.

Plutonian
Plutonian

Pluto in Scorpio 17° conjunct Mercury 17° and Sun combust Venus in Scorpio 10° all ‘locked’ in the 10th opposing the moon. Intense to say the least. Yet wouldn’t have it any other way, keeps life interesting. Plutonic life themes (constant death/rebirth) et al.

Skywriter Test scores 61 (not including asteroids) 🙂

Leo Princess
Leo Princess

According to Astrodienst, I have:

Pluto conjunct Mercury
Uranus conjunct Mercury
Uranus conjunct Eros
All in Virgo

And just for luck, Lust conjunct Moon, in Capricorn.

The summaries below all make perfect sense for me and explain some things that I struggle with, especially Uranus/Eros:

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/mercuryplutoaspects.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/mercuryuranusaspects.html
http://www.falconastrology.com/erosvi06.html

Panda Girl
Panda Girl

Mars/Pluto/Midheaven in Scorpio. It’s intense but I’m getting used to it now. A few years ago it was way too much for me to get my head around and deal with.
I was looking into the other stuff in my chart and completely ignoring my outer planets until an astrologer friend kindly mentioned I should look into my Pluto.

Venus/Neptune in Capricorn is harder for me to settle with, I’ve been meaning to look into it…

Not sure about weird or ancient channeling any greatness, the Scorp conjunct is just really, really intense!

AriesLove
AriesLove

What about oppositions? Or squares for that matter. Do they have a similar effect?

Jessica
Jessica

Mercury/Pluto, Sun/Uranus. It was a bit difficult being a child!

munin
munin

sun conjunct pluto in libra too (2 degrees apart). also, mercury loosely conjunct uranus in scorpio. when i was a child/ teen i was truly an outsider – cpuldn’t relate to others of my age group on any level. but i transformed, learned and moved on. and my weird interests as a child actually turned out to be one of my best assets. empowerment and intensity … hmm… that’s tricky. the intensity usually shows up in up/close and personal relationships. otherwise i am pretty mellow. the empowerment, i guess, it’s also a lilith theme, not just plutonian. to me it… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

well, i’ve got my moon conjunct pluto. and i’ve got to say, i can SO completely relate to every word you said about an outer planet person. i definitely absolutely believe i am. really! haha. very cool!

Anonymous
Anonymous

(oh and my moon is in scorpio in the 8th house– pluto is in scorpio, too)

Anonymous
Anonymous

gosh, i just realized that is a tonnn of scorpio. does that have any relevance?

Andromeda
Andromeda

Gosh, yes it does!! I think you need an a VERY scorpionic ‘name’ Anonymous. “Plutonic Moon”? “Tonne ‘o’ Scorp”?

Tonne 'o' Scorp
Tonne 'o' Scorp

hahaa i like the second one! i’ll use that from now on =p would you know what the relevance of that is tho, offhand?

Owl
Owl

Sun conjunct pluto in Libra (5 degrees apart) and Pluto conjunct venus in libra within 5 degrees.

Constantly transform, learn, move, empower or stagnate and die.

The choice is mine.

Relationships based on inauthenticity don’t nourish me…I can be pretty intense! And yes, have had some wacko intense love relationships (with some narcissists/sociopaths), But try to stick to the helping others transform into the light part of this. Once I’ve helped you transform, and of course myself in the process, then my work is done.

Moon opposite Pluto too, OMG I am such a Plutonian!

JodeMaree
JodeMaree

Being a super Plutonic myself Owl, I totally relate to this! I can’t do inauthentic relationships or friendships. I don’t see the point, although I get that others have no need for the deep ‘soul connection’ stuff that I need. I see the role of Plutonic types like us as bringing unconscious stuff in ourselves and others to the surface and dealing with it. We’re the skeleton and baggage exposers! My challenge has been finding a partner who is willing to deal with the skeletons and baggage once they’re out there and not continue repressing their stuff or projecting it… Read more »

Andromeda
Andromeda

Have no outer planets conjunct my inner planets. Am all ‘innards’. Like Haggis.

aqua aqua
aqua aqua

pluto conjunct MC in libra which is also conjunct my moon & saturn in scorp. plus uranus conjunct jupiter in sag. and neptune cojunct south node if that counts. “both super-ancient and of the future” never really tried to define it but that sums it up very nicely! funny you should mention your book recommendations mystic. just bought jan spiller’s ‘astrology for the soul’ today after doing some research on the nodes (pluto is transitting my neptune/sth node conjunction) and someone had suggested it as a must read. then i saw it on your list and knew i had to… Read more »

JodeMaree
JodeMaree

Outer planets aspects all over my chart but the one that’s had the biggest influence is Pluto conjunct Moon both at 27 Virgo in the 11th house. Both planets also sextile Venus in Cancer in the 8th and Jupiter in Scorp in the 12th so there’s a strong Plutonic theme there. Apart from early mother issues (that thankfully I’ve done a lot of work on), it mainly plays out in my friendships and relationships. I don’t have much interest in ‘surface’ connections and zero interest in ‘false’ people. I tend to attract and seek out deep feeling, emotionally courageous types… Read more »

aqua lion
aqua lion

Not me personally, but I know an amazing Shamanistic Astrologer who has Sun-Virgo conjunct Uranus and Pluto (and Scorpio rising). It is absolutely amazing what energies she can handle – you basically go into the ring with her (zodiac laid out on the floor) and what comes forth is completely from god knows what area of the unconscious. I have one friend who gets amazing visions when she does a session with her – personally I just get to physically embody all this weird crap, goddesses, gods, energies from god knows where, it is fantastic. She needs to be a… Read more »

Spirit
Spirit

Yes !

I recently did something like that …drew the chart on the floor…large enough to actually walk through it…

It did give a sort of kinesthetic `zing` to the interpretation.

whatevs
whatevs

are they involved with the clairvision peeps? I had a crazy experience years ago having an astro consult with a clairvision person and the big ring on the floor. It was phenomenal I’d forgotten about it until I read your post. The woman kept trying to bring me back because I kept going too far off in random directions. I was not sticking to the agenda. You had to do some breathing technique or something and then it unfolded from there. Was astro oriented but freestyle due to stuff just emerging.

watersprite
watersprite

wow, who is this person?? sounds amazing Im studying shamanism at the moment and what an amazing combination

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Or more open to astro as Uranian or Neptunian – we just “get it” faster 🙂

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yep. Attuned.

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

agreed !

Libraquarius
Libraquarius

I have Neptune in the first house conjunct Venus in the first house and the Sun just squeezing into the twelfth house. Yes, I can be right off the planet, yes, I hate the cruelty on this planet, yes, I’ve had alcohol problems, but now I’ve tapped into a creative wellspring which is suddenly overflowing. I guess things happen at the right time. I’ve joined Art Every Day Month and suddenly Neptune seems to have been grounded and focused. About bloody time, lol.

The Empress
The Empress

Jupiter conj neptune 0 deg. Everything I’m reading is soo true. HUGE imagination which can sometimes border on escapism if I don’t channel it. Am an optimist and an idealist. Also have Sun conj saturn although it’s too wide at 7 deg (plus in different signs). Still the bit I just read in cafeastrology is spot on, in particular feeling self-conscious expressing myself at times and wanting to be accomplished but not liking the spotlight. Ah, the contradictions.

astrophel
astrophel

I’m not an outer planet peep (sadly!), but I think my otherworldly Pisces sister is: Saturn (20 Aries) conjunct Mercury (16 Aries), & Uranus (11 Aqua) conjunct Venus (11 Aqua). This outer-planet-channeling stuff is all new to me & I love the idea… Mystic is stimulating & informative as always.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

I dunno what any of it means – other than what astrodienst tells me, but I have both Neptune and Uranus conjunct my Ascendant. Again, no idea what trines or sextiles are but I seem to have my Outer Planets going crazy trining and sextiling my Inner Planets. Hahaha. Is this a good thing?

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

Might just add, reading what astrodienst has to say is pretty darn accurate regarding all the trines, sextiles and conjunctions between Inner and Out Planets.

WOOHOO
WOOHOO

Argh! These charts are confusing, hahaha.

zeb
zeb

Ok I have Pluto conjunct with Mercury in my 10th house in Virgo 26 degrees. I am not entirely sure how this manifests in my personality or my life. All I know is that at times I have the power that seems to come out of nowhere to cut through complex situations and sum them up. I make sense of things for others (not always for myself). I would really like to know a bit more about this particular outer planet thing. Any thoughts?

fallen angel
fallen angel

Huh. So strictly based on the less than 5 deg rule, mine shows:

Uranus (in Libra 1st house @ 4 deg) conjuncts my Cancer Sun (10th house 0 deg), Moon in Aqua (5th house 5 deg) & Venus in Leo (11th house 6 deg).

Am I reading this wrong? Gee. Is that electrifying or what?

shell
shell

Sorry honey, you’re reading it wrong. Conjunct as in next to each other, so between 25 gem and 5 cancer would be conjunct your sun.
Just look for planets right on top of each other in the chart rather than in the tables

fallen angel
fallen angel

So..does this mean all these planets would essentially be more or less in the same house? I am absolutely shite at this.

I think Mars & Mercury conjuct my Cancer sun all in the 10th house, while Pluto conjuncts Uranus both in the 1st house. I suspect I’m still doing this wrong..

Andromeda
Andromeda

Yes, it means the planets that are generally close together are in the same house.
Shell means that anything that falls from late Gemini to early Cancer would be conjunct to your sun.

I think you are thinking of that other D.I.Y. post where we looked at planets of the same degree in different houses.

Here you just look what is bunching up to the Sun, Merc, Venus, Mars on the chart. Have you tried looking looking on Astroclick Portrait? That will tell you which planets are conjunct by simply clicking on them.

shell
shell

Yes FA, usually in the same house, but again, lines can get in the middle. I have saturn in cancer in 12t conjunct Leo asc and Leo mars, so they cross houses. I just remembered I have your deets. You’ve no conjunctions at all! How’d you manage that? Go look. Although sun merc mars all in same house they are evenly split over beginning, middle and end. 13 degrees between each one. Uranus and Pluto are 10 degrees apart. Ok, I found one, merc is conjunct your MC. Go look, see how they are right on top of each in… Read more »

Andromeda
Andromeda

Ha ha, poke poke you owe me a coke, we posted the same sec!!

fallen angel
fallen angel

That absolutely helps! Thanks Shell and Andromeda.. and how sad is this, I didn’t realize I could do that with the astro portrait.

So..I suppose save for my Merc and Midheaven, I am absent of conjuncts. I feel rather empty now.. but oh wot a lucid moment.

plutonic gem
plutonic gem

pluto and uranus in the 12th in Libra… neptune in late 1st or 2nd depending on who is reading, in Sag…. no conjunctions… I do like to go into other dimensions, but this must not be my dominant way of being.

KP
KP

I have both Uranus and Neptune conjunct my Capricorn ascendant and Pluto conjunct Mercury and Mars. I don’t know… I’m not a good judge of my own personality. I know how I think, but, of course, there’s no way for me to know if my thoughts are fundamentally different from other’s…

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

Sun conjunct Uranus and Pluto, Neptune most aspected. I am perceptive, and have been told so by others. Always knew when my ex was lying and that was before I read about body language. I have always had a weird electrocution fear, which I read is common with Uranus conjunct Sun and I definately get some weird ideas out of the blue. I remember singing “Don’t Fence Me In” at the top of my lungs in grade school chorus ! haha ~ meant every word ! I took a quiz on Sky Writer and scored high Plutonian and Uranian. Also… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

look at all you pluto uranus people. how powerful. and mad. but powerful

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

Indeed, Ms. !
Makes sense now why the only one in my family that ‘got’ me was my multiple conjunct Aquarian brother. Astro is brilliant !

whatevs
whatevs

OMG funny I was gonna write don’t fence me in in mine – is nice to know it’s not just me x My fear of electrocution is based in a multitude of actual experiences of it – trust that particular fear suspect it’s prob more intuition than fear : o)

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

oh my ! I have that Nat’l Park ranger from the NWest burned in my memory from Guiness record books. He was holding his burnt hat and had been struck by lightning *many* times. freaked me out !
I also have a lot of the Ripley’s Believe it or Not books. Fascinated by the strange or odd. Just thought, I have been wanting to find out if lodestones (naturally magnetic rocks) are formed by lightning strike.
I put one in relationship corner to start up some action, and it worked !
All the best whatevs x

U7
U7

Ooh la la… does this go for 7th house placements as well?

Or is that more our ‘journey…

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Pluto conjunct the IC (opposite Sun-Mn midpoint/MC).

Glow
Glow

I have Neptune/Mars like Charlie Sheen. 1st house, 2 degree orb.

I also have Uranus and Saturn exactly 1 degree apart in the first house… dunno if that counts since Saturn’s not personal..?

Odette-in-Libra
Odette-in-Libra

Venus-Uranus-Pluto conjunction in Virgo (but Venus is in the 5th house & Uranus & Pluto are in the 4 house).

This makes a lot of sense to me. My relationships are the source of so much magic (& no little pain) – so much intensity, mystical-feeling connections, and a sense of confusion & disorientation. Grow into them? Lord, I hope so!

J*
J*

Hmm Pluto (Virgo) conjunct ASC (Libra) + Mars conjunct Uranus in Libra with a dash of 2nd house Mercury (Scorpio) conjunct Neptune (Sag) on the side.

I’m relating to this Outer Planet bigtime…

olyalyalya
olyalyalya

If your Pluto is in Virgo and ascendant in Libra they can’t be conjuncting, do you mean your sun?

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Actually doll, if her Pluto is late degree Virgo it can be conjunct Libran Asc. Pluto would be in 12th.

olyalyalya
olyalyalya

Oh woops, sorry didn’t know

whatevs
whatevs

: o) soz you got that in stereo x

Pegasus
Pegasus

O there you are Sweetie!
With map in hand, i ask you…..Sun & Jupiter 5 degrees apart
in 11th? Or tell me where to look..without googling.
Just today saw what the symbols were for sextile-oppositions-
trines-squares & conjunctions. That took 4 years & was in front
of me all the time in Linda Goodman’s ‘Relationship Signs’.
To me it means if the Sun’s a Planet, two big guns in collusion not
collision.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

haha… collusion at 5 degrees apart. “Collusion” love it (although I doubt it in the negative sense with your Sagg Sun conj. Jupiter). Sun and Jup in 11th means you might have a wide circle of friends that you “teach” or inspire. According to some teachings, the 10th is what we do, or cultivate, but the 11th what we then bring out and share with the world. Something along those lines! My books in storage but I have Sun in 11th and even though it squares Saturn for example and I’m a lone wolf type, have high ideals of what… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

And I should leave that opened ended…Do you have a dream Pegs? I do. It’s for a better world of higher consciousness whereupon we leave the fear and troubles behind. Course it starts with us and looking at our personal stuff. A ‘herculean” task but like I told my Cancerian daughter just the other day, it’s called self mastery. I fail often but will get up again and again.

yadda, yadda but it’s how I live my life.

Hippychic
Hippychic

Like it Sweetpea 🙂

Pegasus
Pegasus

Sweetie a little prose from a book called ‘God Jokes’…
i used to dream dope
i used to dream sex
now i dream light
thank god there’ still hope.

A vision? Really can’t get past Planet Pandora from
Avatar, those beauteous evolved beings, creatures
and lush plush Nature.
thanx x

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Ahh, nice one Pegs! x

J*
J*

Got that in one…

whatevs
whatevs

? Am confused by that Olyalyalya – if pluto’s at the end of virgo in the 12th it could be conjunct ascendant without being anywhere near sun. Am guessing the sun is not in 1st or 2nd because venus is usually close to sun and isn’t mentioned at all.

olyalyalya
olyalyalya

Yep I kappeesh, I just though they have to be in the same sign to conjunt, thanks for clearing it for me Sweetpea and whatevs xx

Pegasus
Pegasus

Capice….peeps are impressed by your beauty?

Olyalyalya
Olyalyalya

Not sure Pegs. I think its just the intensity thing, like having a very intense stare, manner of speech, freaks peeps out sometimes.

For example I had a presenation at uni the other day. The feedback from my teacher, ” Olga let Ben present, you are just not very bubbly, and you get intensely involved in describing the detail, tell him what to say and feel free to jump in when you want.” I detract from the presentation apparently.

olyalyalya
olyalyalya

YES totally Plutonian/Neptunian. Scorp Pluto trine Crab sun @ zero degree, Sextile Virgo moon and zero degree and conjunct ascendant (also it trines Mars, is Mars an outer?).

Cap Neptune oppositions sun at zero degrees and trines moon at zero degrees, it sextiles ascendant at 5 degrees.

I do think that the Pluto energy is very full on, people tend to react to me even when I am not doing/saying anything.

amilovesyou
amilovesyou

I’ve got JUPITER Conjunct PLUTO which is Conjunct SATURN which is Conjunct MARS AND my Ascendant. All in Libra, except Jupiter’s in Scorpio.

Have no idea what this really means other than my whole life is kinda like a Saturn’s return with Saturn conjunct my Ascendant.

I have always been the most out there of all my friends (until recently when everyone seems to finally be catching up LOL) and one of the few who prides myself on always being myself, no matter the people or the situation.

Any tips for all my conjunctions or outer planets in Libra? 🙂 x

whatevs
whatevs

GOD I am staring at that and thinking how tf does that work? Maybe need some more info Jupiter is in your 2nd house? Or all the others are in the 12th and jupiter is in your 1st?

amilovesyou
amilovesyou

So… Jupiter, Pluto and Saturn are one after the other with a few degrees difference, in my 1st house, Jupiter is just at the very end of Scorpio, and Mars is the only planet in my 12th house (still in Libra).

My ascendant is on 11 degrees Libra. 🙂

Bluesky
Bluesky

Clearly you come across as powerful.

Glad your friends are catching up:)

Bluesky
Bluesky

Sun conjunct Venus, Uranus and Pluto It’s just as you say. I’m “out there.” People have reactions to me. I can either try to fly under the radar to feel more unobtrusive (am good at this–wear lots of black cat suity things–even move like a cat). but then I am a rising Leo, too, so I can swing entirely over to the other side and, when I feel happy, enter a room like some sort of luminary (then don’t know what to do when this happens and suddenly want to go under the radar again). I sometimes have a need… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

This is a bit like wanting to be the Guide on the Side
instead of the Sage on the Stage.
Perhaps the old ‘fear of success’ raises this as well?

Often have to ask myself ‘what’s the worst that
can happen if i do/say this’? Then i reply to myself ‘if you can’t
die from it do it’!

Bluesky
Bluesky

Oooo. Sage on the stage. I love that! And it’s definitely fear of success—although what the hell is that and why do people have it? It’s a strange phenomenon even though we all recognize it.

I like your question to self—and the answer.

So, question to self: can I die from starting a company?

What’s funny is there’s a tiny voice that says “yes”—but I think that’s the root of the problem. Things that aren’t life and death can FEEL like life and death.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Hey Pegs, think ~Sage on the Side~ mighta been good for the Scorp Presenter suggestion? 🙂

whatevs
whatevs

“It’s intense, weird and magic”

Jupiter conjuncts Pluto which conjuncts Uranus which Conjuncts IC, Sun and South Node.

Go figure.

Ms.
Ms.

wow, that’s full on. no wonder you live with an aquarius

Ms.
Ms.

libra as well. your home must be interesting.

whatevs
whatevs

if only you could hear the wicked little laugh this comment evoked.

whatevs
whatevs

Uranus on the IC gives weird houses to the native – I can vouch for that. One of my previous dwellings was a brick warehouse complete with indoor dock for boats from Victorian era before the land around it was reclaimed. Cold in winter. There was also an old printing factory complete with the machinery the printers had left behind because it was obsolete technology – early 1900s and made of heavy metal and to get it out they would’ve had to have cut a hole in the roof and got a crane in. I loved that place – venus… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

lol. how awesome. when I was a kid I wanted to live in a mushroom. I was fairly obsessed with that for a while. did a million sketches in crayons to show just how the mushroom was to work. I did warehouse ness for a long time. still would if I could afford it since they kicked us all out and made them into couple studio conversions

amilovesyou
amilovesyou

You would love the Anastasia book series – she talks about how to grow your own mushroom flying ship! Check it out 🙂

whatevs
whatevs

LOVE the mushroom thing – such a great child’s eye view. I was all about swiss family robinson or a cart drawn by horses.

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

Great description of the warehouse, whatevs ~my old landlord restored a Flour and Feed bldg behind my apt which had the oddest shaped triangular closets. He found lots of old Murphy beds in the attic, an old weighted pulley elevator and was searching for the basement tunnel to the brewery across the street built during prohibition. Love the history in the bricks and wood plank floors !
Ms. LOVE the mushroom house idea ~ Have you seen the conch house, by chance?

Ms.
Ms.

amilovesyou. thanks xx 🙂
the house also contained waterslides and I wanted to build it around an old growth tree like the magic far away tree so I could portal as transport

Ms.
Ms.

I am so into that you love the mushroom house. I drew it over and over for years. will check out conch house saturnrox xx
cart and horse would be great way to get around again. or just a horse. fuq traffic x

whatevs
whatevs

Saturnrox – i could SO go a private tunnel to the speakeasy – moon + neptune in scorpio

goldfleece-risingfish
goldfleece-risingfish

sorry to intrude, but wanted to show you these – just sent a couple of these packs to greatest Katakan friend in UK .. too kitschy for you Ms. ?

goldfleece-risingfish
goldfleece-risingfish
Ms.
Ms.

haha. aww. I am prety kitsch but my actual interior is very nothing cute. despite wishing to live in a mushroom. no such thing as intruding here on post m’dear x
I found zombie garden figures the other day, like people semi appearing from the ground. thats more my kitsch, ridiculous I know. I was goo’ing over them thinking if only I didn’t move around so much how nice it would be to have an arty zombie garden amongst the plants

whatevs
whatevs

funny – a man I knew years ago used to make & sell obscene / victim of crime gnomes – hanging limp from verandah etc

Ms.
Ms.

i wanted a subtle grave scene in mono colour like “putty” from the copic colour range so when lit it would give a silhouette and not intrude as hard on visuals, more like a double take slash adams family gallery of the dead than pure gore x

whatevs
whatevs

for a minute I thought that said coptic colour range – had a coptic embroideries moment but that isn’t what you mean is it? OK just googled – interesting – is a textile specific colour system? Much more subtle than the gnomes I’m talking about – they were in rabid shiny cherry reds kind of like disney on acid. Yes subtle – your choice is WAY more creepy. Like a dream sequence.

whatevs
whatevs

I have sun conjunct south node too and an astrologer told me recently that it helps to break the habits and not vice versa, but maybe the squares you have temper that energy.

Anonymous
Anonymous

These recent cardinal transits really opened this up. Total recalibration and using the old habits to better effect now.

Sun on the SN would be a wonderful engine to push you on out into the new plan. Downside of Sun conj SN would be you identify with the “set” gifts more than the NN plan.

But Uranus (being the unpredictable beast that he is) can’t be depended on for consistent pushes. It’s in Libra, so the company I keep is a good barometer of my growth.

Anonymous
Anonymous

oh. this is me, weathergirl. Different ‘puter.

whatevs
whatevs

what house do you have it in weathergirl? Is that why you mention the company you keep? Yeah the one thing you can rely on uranus to be is unpredictable.

Nic
Nic

Pluto conjunct Venus and Moon – yes, I am emotionally intense. And a bit mental when it comes to relationships.

I have less of an understanding of what Neptune conjunct Mars and Jupiter would mean – any ideas?

whatevs
whatevs

What house?

Expansive creative energies able to be made manifest by your drive to succeed or alternatively pissed up against a wall in a haze of escapist obsession?

Nic
Nic

On my midheaven, actually – Mars in the ninth and Jupiter and Neptune in the tenth.

And I laughed out loud at the latter interpretation, because it’s SO low me. I will endeavour to embrace the first option, thank you 😀

whatevs
whatevs

whoa that combo on the MC – do people think you’re feisty at work? Or do they get the wrong idea about you? The MC is such a weird place. It being what people think about you as opposed to who you actually are an all.

Nic
Nic

I’m an intensely private person, particularly at work. So yes, most people do get the wrong idea about me. In some ways it actually works in my favour – that haze of escapist obsession? No one sees that side of me, aside from very close friends and family. But it can be a little frustrating sometimes, in that emo-teenager-no-one-understands-me-oh-woe! kind of way haha!

Ms.
Ms.

hmm I just read this. Interesting. I can relate. My lesson has been to make my skill set workable so my head doesn’t explode. I was utterly uncontainable when I was younger and had mad self willed existence.
I can work and work really hard it just has to be something I believe in but its matured into finding lots of concepts and a way to balance commercial with concept that doesn’t kill the idea. an office office would kill me. I am using kill alot perhaps its the scorpio? maybe she is not being true to her thing?

Ms.
Ms.

Oooo I love this topic. have often wondered what “outer planet” type meant and I never really looked at my chart that way before. Had a quick look. woah.

uranus aspecting nearly everything in some fashion

5th house conjunct merc/sun, square mars, sextile saturn, semi sextile venus,neptune, pluto, inconjunct Asc.
supports alien theory. mars is also very active.
grand trine in air with asc/pluto/eros

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Creative sexy femme – had a dream about you a while ago – not printable here, too x rated but yr astro fits lol.

Ms.
Ms.

hahaha OMG
was I good? lol x

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

errmm of course, i absorb scorps, you’re saturated in scorpionic vibes 🙂 It involved “props”

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

I should mention i am doing pluto trans opp (exact right now) my mars (conj venus/nn). Has to be the libido transit of all time. My dreams are pornographic most of the time, over the top.

Ms.
Ms.

lol xxx

i am all about the theater 😉

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

Mmmk… Conjuncts that I have in my Chart:
Sun conj Chiron in Taurus
Mean Node conj Mars in Leo
Lilith conj Moon in Libra.

So… I am lucky when I am getting a massage whilst eating cake, fearsome in the work realms, and a mean mother (in moderation)…

That sounds about right…

(None of these are ‘outer planets’. I am well boring)

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Lilith is not mean lol. Awesome witchy mother with socially awesome children??
🙂

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

Your version sounds much better… I am going to role with that;)

applepieskies
applepieskies

Yeah, it really depends on how well you choose to channel it. Understand it within yourself and figure out how to utilise it and not be devoured by it.

Equilibrium Girl (nee Stress Princess)
Equilibrium Girl (nee Stress Princess)

Neptune conjunct Mars in Sagg 2nd house. Ummm… OKay so I don’t work. I don’t want to work. I come into money when and where I can but I don’t freak out because I don’t work full-time. Me, a Cap Sun/ Merc/ Venus does NOT freak out because I’m not wealthy?? I do WANT to be wealthy, I LOVE money and seeing the bank account go up and I’ve always felt I will be deliriously rich one day – or am i deluding myself?? See, I flit about and freelance at everything (I tell ppl I’m “a freelancer.” “At what?”… Read more »

jasmine
jasmine

hey, wadaya know, i’m (slightly) an Outer Planet Person. good to know 🙂 Neptune (Sagg) in 12th house Conjuct Ascendent (Cap) dreamy-seeming person who has a tough time with how i present myself to others: check. imaginative: check. psychic sponge: check. sensitive & compassionate: double check. i need to work on making myself and my intentions clear to other people.. but it’s hard. i like my dream world. and people are so unreliable most of the time.. oh, and i love the ocean (i heard that neptune conj ac peeps have affinity for the sea) so hopefully one day i’ll… Read more »

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

Sun conjunct Uranus. Just read a blurb ~ Sun conjunct Uranus people possess much self-integrity. They prefer to answer to no one except themselves ~ funny that, ma and I had a convo over the weekend where she was marvelling at my self honest and awareness. As in I am preternaturally self aware, I don’t bullshit me, or others. I am definitely totally individual, and I bemuse people who want to categorise me. I defy categorisation and firmly believe that categorising people is highly offensive! Noice. I like this one, it totally explains a whole part of my chart and… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

how do you find that uranus energy in your work and your residence? x

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

In work I am best with a hands off but approachable manager, who works with me. I have a strong Saturn/Virgo thing, so am really structured in work, and do well in highly regulated environments (if it makes sense). In my home life – well I had that rather magnificently shocking share house explosion earlier this year… I find bigger households work for me, where I can get lost among the personalities. When its just 2 people, I rebell if there is too much dependency on my company/approval/whatever. Now I am in my own place, again, highly structured environment, but… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

I have same PoMo and the compartmentalising of people that goes on drives me crazy. What is it with the boxes? Does no-one else love the idea of being surprised as the person’s personality and quirks unfold? It means peeps are never allowed the freedom to change and evolve if you put them in that box in your mind OR you’ll get a big fright one day when you realise you were wrong all along. AWFUL I do however love a bit of a Myers Briggs or similar but only for personal use – is OK when you get to… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

INTP x

Ms.
Ms.

ha. ENTP. as if i am introverted lol

whatevs
whatevs

funny – I am sometimes INTP and sometimes ENTP depending on which test and whether I’ve got this shits with or am high on the love of life at the time of doing test. In Out Shake it all about.

Ms.
Ms.

and yes compartmentalising so lame but people are stupid and prefer 2D card board cut outs they so it makes them think they get it. this same retardation of view is in my opinion what prevents most people from understanding their partners/friends/ self/humans

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

INFJ
But I prefer to use the TMS system – in that I am an Upholder/Maintainer. Only 2% of the population sits in that section of the pie cart! Hah!

whatevs
whatevs

LOL

year of the fox
year of the fox

I am Uranus conjunct Sun and an INFP.

sagitta
sagitta

Neptune conjunct Sun in Scorpio (3 degrees) and INFP.

shell
shell

Ummm, is not astro also boxes in some ways?

I love stereotypes. It’d be bloody difficult to make your way about the world every day without a whole bunch of boxes to categorize people in to.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

The ego will always compartmentalize, it’s natural and also the reason why some won’t ever expand it. Not you, shell, but just in general.

whatevs
whatevs

hey shell, I guess you could look at it like that but for me the awareness of the potential for constant growth and change with astro means it’s not as narrow as stereotyping a person and leaving it at that which is what a lot of people seem to do.

Ms.
Ms.

what is mystics cool saying- I deal in archetypes not stereotypes? x

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

Correlations….. so yeah, archetypes! But re shells comment – when I think about how I respond to people, its AFTER the initial impression etc that I start finding ‘names’ or ‘boxes’ for people and usually I use these to explain my feelings to others, not to categorise to myself. Does that make sense? I should probably qualify that I don’t object to aLL categorisation (except as pertains to me), but more to categorisation that limits knowledge – of self and of others. I struggle often when peoples outmoded concept of who I am, influences they way they treat me, and/or… Read more »

Libra sun/moon, Virgo asc
Libra sun/moon, Virgo asc

Maybe that explains why I’ve been self-employed for the past 16 years (since my early 20s). I could never stand working with people who didn’t have integrity. One idiot boss was all it took to make me determined to never be an employee again. And yes, totally hate any form of bullshit. Thanks for sharing that blurb 🙂

year of the fox
year of the fox

Uranus conjunct my Sun. Weird – check!

I’m going to challenge the Saturn being Yang and Jupiter being Yin thing. I think it’s the opposite because most people think of Jupiter as “expansive” and Saturn as “restrictive” or “contractive”. That would mean Jupiter is Yang and Saturn is Yin.

Andromeda
Andromeda

Yes, I feel both are Jupiter and Saturn are Yang in different ways..
I like Pluto and Neptune for feminine planets. Pluto being the Kali type and Neptune is just so evocative of formlessness and all those other Yin qualities don’t you think?

I guess it doesn’t matter too much if you have a clear idea of how it all connects in your personal myth anyway.

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Not sure exactly where i read this but definitely somewhere in Mystic’s genius world – Goddess is from the words God essence – ie the female Goddess is the form from the formless God – they are one and the same but the Goddess becomes the form. Actually it is very likely from Howard Sasportas’ “The Gods of Change” which I have just finished reading (but it’s a book that will never leave my sight). Amazing, spooky awesome book that Mystic recommends. It is exactly what i need at this time in my life with just recently having passed through… Read more »

Andromeda
Andromeda

Thanks FF, have GOT to start reading some astro books, I have read two crappy ones only! Will order myself The Gods of Change for Xmas. You sound like you have some serious stuff going on, I don’t really understand most of it and I want to!

Saturnrox
Saturnrox

Wow- that’s quite a rec, I’m going to check it out ! thx

Charles
Charles

I’m fairly Neptunian and Uranian. I have Neptune conjunct my N Node in Scorpio (and a very tight orb). Then I have Uranus conjunct my Pars Fortuna at my Ascendant. Or maybe I’m Plutonian, since I have Pluto squares to my Sun/Moon conjunction. Or maybe I’m a Saturnian/Jupiterian, since I have a Sat/Jup Yod to my Sun/Moon. All I know is that I have far too much outer planet action. And then I hardly have any Venus or Mars aspects except minor ones like biquintiles etc. Only Mercury saves the day, exact opposite.. Neptune. And then we’re back to the… Read more »

PonPon
PonPon

Uranus is Conjunct my Ascendant it says. Uranus is 1 degrees in Capricorn and my asc is 29 degrees in Sagittarius. Astrodienist says: “You relate easily to all types of people and are friendly to everyone, regardless of their social status. Concerned primarily with the future, you are eager to participate in the development of a higher consciousness, which will be the nucleus for the greater awareness of man.” I agree with this. I only have a couple friends, but I try to be friendly to everyone. Sometimes I don’t talk much and I guess I seem intimidating. Pretty much… Read more »

Libra sun/moon, Virgo asc
Libra sun/moon, Virgo asc

Uranus is conjunct my sun and moon in Libra, 1st house. Not sure what that means but definitely understand about being a late bloomer. Maybe this explains why, as a child I was always told I was wise beyond my years and have never managed to do things ‘by the book’, even when I’ve tried!

Adminiscorp
Adminiscorp

uh-huh, oh yeah. Pluto conjunct Venus, and Uranus conjunct AC, Venus and Mars, Neptune and Mercury conjunct each other and oppose Saturn… definitely relate to the growing into it thing. Pisces in CQ – can totally relate to the Mars conjunct Uranus stuff – also hate demands to conform or comply, but might do so happily if you’re good enough to ask nicely… maybe that’s my Libra rising in action… Also frank, don’t ask me what I think if you don’t want to know. Usually more problematic at work though, than in friendship. Thankfully this is a trait my friends… Read more »

Pisces in CQ
Pisces in CQ

My friends value this in me too, though sometimes I think I am used as a human shield if they are having troubles with someone. I know my sisters get me to be! I would just love to get a job in advocacy. Usually when I have wrecked havoc with someone when they have overstepped my boundaries I’ll bump into them some time later down the track…. and they’ve made positive changes to their lives. I seem to be an advocate for change for people that’s for sure but I do explode too loudly at times, and it took me… Read more »

cancirca
cancirca

MOON (ruling planet) tightly CONJ NEPTUNE in Sagg is I think my most exact aspect, and yes, people say all the time “you seem otherworldly” … “you seem like you’re from another planet” … people register something unusual that is quite soft and gentle and dreamy and somewhat egoless and boundary-less. Some say “weird” and I had to do some investigating (querying peeps I trust) as I couldn’t quite picture what “weird” could mean … since most people seem more or less the same to me: I don’t register ‘weird’ except for say, schizophrenics. The only thing I could imagine… Read more »

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