Haute Scorpio – Low Scorpio

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HAUTE SCORPIO IS INSCRUTABLE Mysterious by nature, Scorpio is the only sign which can carry off a chic yet compulsive-obsessive aura. Do they have hobbies? Stuff that they just dabble in? No. They tend toward deep and abiding interests in subjects to do with sex, the occult, and other people’s money. Method-acting was invented by a Scorpio. So was the Rorschach ink blot test, where one’s reactions to blobs apparently reveal all manner of deep issues. Scorpios don’t feel the need to tell all. They can have whole years missing from their resumes and just shrug it off. Or they murmur “No, thank you. You must understand that after that night in Morocco I can never touch gin again.” Get the picture. Picture is private.

HAUTE SCORPIO IS DISCREET Unlike some signs of the zodiac, Scorpios do not stoop to scene-making under pressure. Someone naturally winds up on their secret crap list but they retain glacial serenity without grizzling. A secret confided to a Scorp is a secret forever safe. But, if you arouse their enmity, your secret could possibly wind up being used against you in the most excruciating fashion.

HAUTE SCORPIO IS SEXY Scorps are the sexiest sign of all – sex appeal simply oozes from their very pore. They tend to go to extremes of being either wildly celibate or deeply immersed in sexuality. Think Prince Charles and his intended reincarnation as Camilla Parker Bowles’s tampon, Larrry Flynt who founded Hustler magazine, Helmut Newton’s fetishistic fashion photography, Shere Hite’s Hite Report, in which she provided stats on the length of orgasms and the number of sexual positions. Robert Mapplethorpe’s nude photography, actress Vivien Leigh’s (Scarlett in Gone With the Wind) apparrently legendary sexual appetite… Scorpios love to get it on. Actor Richard Burton was a celebrated rake who used a “throbbing sensation in my penis as a sort of barometer of when something important was going to happen.” Fashion designer Oleg Cassini said of Princess Grace of Monaco: “She had a very powerful sexual personality.” All Scorpios do.

HAUTE SCORPIO IS STRONG A Scorpio can get blood from a stone. Scorpios are brutally self-aware. They don’t flinch from self-examination. Nothing you can say gets to them because they’ve already thought of it. It’s how they remain impassive in the face of the worst provocation. Feeling the fear and doing it anyway is what they do. The great explorers Captain Cook and Christopher Columbus just kept going until they saw land. Canadian singer kd lang grew up in a place where being vegeterian was almost as difficult as being gay and somehow thrived.

HAUTE SCORPIO IS SPOOKY Is the Scorpio spookiness nature or nurture? There is something profound about this lot. They have powerful instincts which they often obey. When Robert Louis Stevenson wrote his strange tale, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, whose spooked psyche was he drawing inspiration from? Bram Stoker, the author of Dracula, or maybe Dracula himself? Because they have the ability to focus on other people so strongly, they can be highly intuitive regarding another person’s needs, and can channel information that another person requires. Even the most seemingly plaid Scorpio is on some level operating as a medium, transmitting light and energy to those in need.

HAUTE SCORPIO IS PRINCIPLED Scorpios operate on an inalterable value system, one which remains in place despite vagaries of fashion, taste or common opinion. They are a noble people sticking to their own standards of what is correct, no matter what. The ancient Greeks saw integrity not as some nebulous goody-goody concept but as oneness, the very Scorpio trait of presenting exactly the same version of oneself to everyone, whether a pauper or prince.

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LOW SCORPIO IS OBSESSIVE “I desire?” The astro motto for out Scorpio should be something along the lines of “I obsess”. Ask Scorpios not to obsess and they obsess about not obsessing. They will stay up all night chanting a non-obsessive affirmation or sit their scrawling the words “I will be less obsessive” a thousand times in red ink. They will become secretly obsessed with getting to the psychological roots of their obsession. Their idea of getting over an ex-lover is to drive past their house only twice nightly. They can be vile dinner party guests; they are so into their precious authenticity that they lose sight of how intensely they are boring everyone.

LOW SCORPIO IS PARANOID Paranoid? Scorpio? Of course not, they scoff. Scorpio just wants to know who sent that big moth to fly in their window. That disappearing lunch box is a plot by their child to discredit them. Someone says ‘’you’re looking well’’, Scorpio thinks it’s a curse. Scorpio’s social life can be conducted like a resistance movement – there are dozens of ‘’cells’’ of friends, each knowing little or nothing about the other. They do a lot of snooping which, should you stoop to it, would count as a betrayal but is completely understandable on their part. They peer into bathroom cupboards, not like Libra or Pisces, to see what products you’re using, but to find out about any medication or products having a possible sexual link. They micro-examine telephone bills with particular interest in mobile phone calls made when their partner was out of the house. They perform exhaustive Internet searches. They enjoy the concept of private investigation.

LOW SCORPIO IS VINDICTIVE Scorpio’s not-so-secret motto is “retaliate first”, and they do. Their methods are subtle but devastating. They like messing with other people’s emotions. They’ll let you know that they know your little secret. They play games to incite jealousy. They draw you out to talk in vulgar terms about sex or money, then withdraw, a slight smirk of contempt playing across their manipulative face. Scorps can juggle a thousand revenge agendas in their minds. It’s never too late. They can feed crap into other people’s minds about you without anyone guessing a hint of Scorp’s true and biased emotions. If a Scorp feels that you have violated their so-deep honour system, their ethics are then able to be ditched at the drop of a hat. It is because Scorps are so paranoid that other – perfectly nice – people are like them that they are so rigid about shredding credit-card statements, having people sign up pre-dating agreements, and keeping love letters or erotic photographs stored in mysterious locked boxes.

LOW SCORPIO IS GRUDGE-BEARING Okay, so not every Scorp takes up voodoo or looks for a bat to sacrifice when they want a credit limit increase or for their would-be lover to telephone. As any Scorp will tell you, they are not control freaks. They just completely freak, if they are not in total control of everything. It is a miracle that, given their obsession with sex, they are not all professional S & M experts of some description. There is something so disconcerting about having a drink with an old Scorpio friend when you find out they’re still in a stew about not having been made a school prefect. British historian A. J. P. Taylor said of Welsh poet Dylan Thomas that he “was a detestable man. Men pressed money on him and women their bodies. Dylan took both with equal contempt. His great pleasure was just to humiliate people.” Remind you of anyone? Maybe there was a slight personality conflict happening there, but it nevertheless sounds like a very Scorpionic syndrome.

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No Wire Hangers
No Wire Hangers

I would say I’m both high and low…more high than low. I have been accused of being obsessive about things, which I can admit. If something bothers me, it will stay on my mind for a VERY long time. And likewise if something makes me happy. Being manipulative? I have been accused of this but honestly, it’s not true…not on a conscious level anyway. Anytime I’ve been manipulative it was to gain love/acceptance but it was never with the intent of hurting anyone. I believe ALL people can be manipulative but Scorps seem to be called this more than any… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Honest to goodness I have read everything here, and God help anyone who comes into the circle of a low Scorp…who gives a shit about understanding these fuckers…and who would want to be treated with such abuse, vindictiveness, coldness and manipulation. I was just on the receiving end from a low Scorp…successful, money, power, ego, god’s gift to the world and to all women, but cruel and heartless beyond words. It has emotionally destroyed me to be treated like this and I am a tough aries woman. Never known anyone to be that cold…and yes he drew me out to… Read more »

Scorpionessa
Scorpionessa

Oh, I just love this!

Cynthia
Cynthia

What fantastic post! After realizing the importance of a rising sign (I’m Virgo/Scorpio rising) I can see that I’m doubly obsessive and vindictive with the Virgo/Scorp mix. Plus doubly loyal…so long as I am never crossed, lol!

Great post, very spot on!

sickofsaturn
sickofsaturn

With a Scorpio Moon, Uranus and 3rd cusp (Pisces Sun), I am mostly Haute Scorp, but can be obsessive and a little vindictive. Okay, a lot. But people don’t mess with me much either. Haute-Lo Pisces was pretty spot on too. I wonder if people resonate more with their Suns or Moons.

Anonymous
Anonymous

wow how funny! i wonder how requested mystic repost this? only b/c i just asked on the “how to get over the blues post” (or w/e it was called) how i could do that with my moon in scorpio in the 8th house– and someone responded by posting the link to this exact post. haha weirddd!

Anonymous
Anonymous

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plutonic gem
plutonic gem

“They play games to incite jealousy. They draw you out to talk in vulgar terms about sex or money, then withdraw, a slight smirk of contempt playing across their manipulative face.” This in my experience is one of the worst traits of low-scorp. I am still processing having an experience with scorp x-friend of this kind. We were travelling together at the start of the year, and she involved me in some sick power sex game that was going on in her head. It was mostly harmless on the outside, but it showed me very clearly her pretty sick manipulative… Read more »

Bluesky
Bluesky

I just remembered that my mother is a Scorpio! MM mentioned Scarlet O’Hara (or Vivienne Leigh), but my mom vibes more Mellie!!! Hilarious since she does NOT reveal any of these Scorpionic traits readily. She can be obsessive. She’s very religious. She likes powerful men. But she’s so “mom.” Funny to read through all these inner workings posts—which btw sound much more like me than anything I would associate with her! I feel like I’m a scorpio even though I’m not. I wonder if it’s my Sun conjunct Pluto and the swarm of liliths housed in my Scorpio sector? But… Read more »

Andromeda
Andromeda

Sounds like my Mum, multiple conj. Scorp. Very religious, verrrry silent and submerged, extreme fear of humiliation, but also ‘principled’.
P.s. check the date of the comments – tho’ am sure FA appreciates your kindness. 😉

Louella
Louella

This might be relevant to my interests. Even though I’m a Gem, I have Scorpio rising, and Uranus and Lilith in Scorpio. I definetely feel identified in some of these (secrecy, self-examination, also a bit on the obsessive and paranoid side…). Funny enough, two of my besties are Scorpios, and when I’m with them I feel great, as in incredibly inspired. They infuse in me a great desire to create and to improve myself and the world surrounding me.

Leolicious
Leolicious

How wickedly delicious of you, PlutonicFemme!

I still have fond memories of my Scorp ex. I loved how he was so earnest in his determination to be a gentle man – even when he was wildly angry! He was the best bf I’ve ever had. He was definately a haute Scorp and I think I still love him… Venus retro…? Is that you…?

Scorptronic
Scorptronic

This Scorpio found Mystic’s article a bit of an eye opener. I know I have fallen into the low on the obsessive front and perhaps the paranoia – hopefully without causing too much carnage. Boy, it’s tough being Scorpio – but mystic has given something to aspire to – thanks
Just wish the Leo who promises the world to me in small rare doses, and then simply drops off the planet incommudicado, would let me show some loyalty to him- sigh –

Scorp
Scorp

I used to think of myself as “Darth Daddys baby girl” but that’s changed. I’ve really transformed a lot of the lower traits. It’s taken YEARS to do it, but I have.
I don’t spew venom any more… because I’ve learned that everything I do is a reflection of “me” …. and nobody else.

I’m always amazed at how accurate you are Mystic. You’re such a treat to read.

(and I’m sooooo tired of this cold.)

clover
clover

Good for you scorp ! Took me years to get my Neptune problems wrangled too! I thought of your post after todays venom filled scorp rant from the ex. My ex (scorp rising) was coming over to lend a hand fixing a broken down item. I was entertaining thoughts of the good times, picked up the phone to check time and it rang in my hand. Ex: the @#% dogs ran off ! I haven’t even been to work yet. those little #*&@ !! I’m not gonna make it ! Me: (thinking) Good morning to you too ! Figures. Saw… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

I worked for a Scorpio Chiropractor once and other than him, also the Leo with Scorp Moon and Scorp relationship that didn’t (it would have been a love triangle thing), and Cancerian daughter with Scorpio rising, I’d have to say that the most profoundly involved I’d been with someone Scorp influenced was a person (romantic) that had several Draconic placements in Scorpio. Draconic charts in synastry or one Draconic compared to another’s natal can be very telling. The Draconic chart is found at the very bottom of the click on drop down at Astrodienst in case someone is interested. His… Read more »

ana
ana

maybe I should Chanel more of my Scorpio planets!
You work is like a delicious meal, by the way!

Salacious Sagg
Salacious Sagg

LL you are spot on, surely that is another low scorp trait. My Scorp Tormentor sefinitely thinks he does not deserve love methinks, as he is so self destructive. Any thing good that enters his life, he then sets out to destroy, as if he does not deserve any joy.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Salacious, I SO agree. Did you know that Le Scorp was literally about 3-4 months away from possibly moving back to the City of Angels where I bask?? By all accounts, if he had for a moment stopped, realized he had a problem and asked me for help, I could still very well be involved with him. Yet like your Scorp, there is a very distinct pattern of self-sabotage, and as much as I feel violated and victimized by his actions, I cannot help but feel he stabbed and sullied himself first before he did others. He has abandoned his… Read more »

darkhorse80
darkhorse80

Yes, I think that is a common Scorp-type trait. Often Scorps have to go through a lot of drama and BS in their relationships before it finally sinks in that A) it’s not worth it and B) they deserve better.

I hope the Scorp you know is with someone who makes her happy now, Leonine Libran, and I also wish Fallen Angel all the best in her future relationships. Just be thankful the scumbag is out of your life now, FA.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Why thank you darkhorse! I am amidst full blast Aversion Therapy i.e. studying the reality behind all the lies he told in order to balance out my emotional affinities to memories I normally associate as “good” since at the time I did not know any better.

I AM thankful he is out, but also very aware he isn’t completely…the poison lingers on and I know it will take a while. In the meantime, without risking further contact, I posted this in one of his usual trolling-for-sex spots:

Perhaps worth a laugh?

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

Oh angel…I guess the upside of this is that Pluto must be easing off your Sun soon. You are so much better off without that guy/abyss. Sad to say I doubt anything can redeem him now.

fallen angel
fallen angel

You are SO right Uber, he turns 49 next week – here I was thinking being sent to the Midwest “grounded” him only to realize that his “difficult” client has become his co-conspirator in his addiction. My new nickname for him? The Toilet! Yes, that’s right. I wrote it, you read it. It’s funny but I do seriously feel like I’ve been intimate with a…urinal. Soz for the graphics. And interestingly enough it has become easier for me to write, the staring blankly has lessened already though I am half comatose at times. Sleepless as you can see. But I… Read more »

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

He’s up for a heck of a Chiron return. I might have said it above, but he squandered his chance at redemption. If anyone could have brought him into the light, you could have and I admire the courage of your persistence and your immense capacity to love and forgive. Even that wasn’t enough and no one on earth could have done more. WTF would it take? I too am awed by his destructiveness, cheapening intimacy the way he has. Maybe consider some physical cleansing ritual. Pegasus and Mystic know the goods. Salt baths, deep tissue massage, essential oils. You… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Truly? I hope to Hades so…and yes, you are right wise Uber. I was that chance, if it weren’t so then I wouldn’t have brought the stinging rays of truth come piercing through his dark world and been able to sustain as much as I did. Yesterday I had a deep tissue massage and a facial, just to be tended to and cared for was nice, as much as I am convinced and continue to be so that is THE path – I find myself sleepless and trembling in bed. There have been too many emotions to reconcile, as much… Read more »

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

I’ve done the trembling. A few weeks after a family member’s near death and things had settled a bit, I felt like crap one day, lay down on my bed and was overcome by the shakes. I didn’t fight it because I knew it was the shock working its way out. Verbalizing and rationalizing go some way to releasing it, but I’m convinced it resolves itself more effectively through the physical. Thus the bodywork recommendation. Fingers crossed for both of us we get towed out to the sex-love Bombora for a good ride. In the meantime, the long haul love… Read more »

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

You know I was just thinking there could be another low scorp trait. A trait that underlies a lot of low scorp toxicity. I’ve been remembering a scorp woman I knew that was able to give of herself really generously. She would set up community organisations that really helped a lot of people…help enable other people to harness their inner strength to make positive change in their lives…but for herself…no. In her male relationships I saw her attract every dead beat loser user who would just grind her into the dirt….and she would accept it like it was her due.… Read more »

ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising

damn, I have seen this before and have been there before.
It is some internal self-loathing or self-sacrifice that is extremely unhealthy.

anon
anon

internal self-loathing or self-sacrifice could apply to any sign !

darkhorse80
darkhorse80

Thanks for the kind words, Unpredictable Pisces. Things can only get better from now on.

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Shell my little brother is a scorp…and he is one of the sweetest most kind loyal men I know…massively protective of his children…I find it very funny when gets my Virgo sis and I to act as a buffer to his Gem wife…who does live with him day and night…thankfully she just rolls her eyes at his pleas for sisterly protection. We weren’t all raised together and he had a wretched childhood…in their early twenties the now gem wife told him he had to get his rage under control…so he took himself off to therapy and managed to convince her… Read more »

shell
shell

oh yes, they are fantastic when up (aren’t we all), and the loyal passionate bit really has come out of late. Though I can also see the holding on to a grudge thing – we were all affected by our parents split in diff ways, though it surprised me recently how much the one I thought was least effected (and whom is the most scorp) still carries the chip. I do apply to gem eye rolling thing. Its the first time I’ve looked at charts for parents/brothers. My mother and I are both gems with venus, and merc in taurus,… Read more »

Salacious Sagg
Salacious Sagg

shell out of curiosity, how diff are your Scorp brothers with other stuff in libra vs Sagg? I do think it is clearly seen in how they react, fume and froth etc.

Hey darkhorse, at least you recognise you need to deal with stuff and that in itself is a new start. Good on you for being open and admitting that there are better ways.

shell
shell

in some ways i think it is hard to tell – cause as adults our relationships have been limited by being in diff parts of the country, and rarely being all together at the same time. But, had some enlightening interactions with them both of late so based on that… ScorpBro1 (SB1L) has sun, merc, venus, jupiter and neptune in scorp and moon, mars, uranus in libra, saturn in taurus and pluto at end virgo. When I see him at home with kids juggling work, mortgage, family etc and am constantly telling him he’s turned into our dad – grumpy… Read more »

shell
shell

wow, weird. Hi brothers.

shell
shell

My brothers are both scorps. Mega as i just discovered. One has sun, merc, venus, jupiter and neptune in scorp, and the other has sun, moon and merc. I feel an odd sense of relief we all live in diff parts of the country, as I only tend to see the loyal passionate bit.

darkhorse80
darkhorse80

With my Moon, Merc, Venus and Uranus all in Scorpio and Mars in the 8th House, I have to admit that it has taken years to see that long-festering resentments and hatred do actually poision you in a way, and that it’s far more constructive to just do the best you can in your own life and leave it to fate or karma to deal with other people’s bad behaviour. I wish I had realised this earlier, after wasting years being ‘the grey lizard’ that Linda Goodman spoke about in her books instead of being the eagle who soars b/c… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

its OK darkhorse – part of the scorpy journey is probably exactly the transformation you have gone thru. everything is as it should be xx

davidl
davidl

Its in their eyes, straight away I know, oowww, scorpio … you can fall into those eyes. Its like those old Time Tunnel episodes, falling into the bottomless spiral.
Ive always got on with scorps, learnt a lot from them. Esp about sex. Thanks guys.

fallen angel
fallen angel

OOh, right on about the Sex Ray Vision davidl..never met a Scorp who couldn’t Stare Sting. Very sexy always. It’s almost like they are morse-coding your brain with sensual messages in staccato typing…

Salacious Sagg
Salacious Sagg

Matt Sweetie Pie you be careful of that”friend” of yours. Methinks low Scorps are attracted to us Sagg’s as they cannot understand why we are happy and positive even in the midst of storms. I have found the low types relish bursting our bubbles and then savor watching us become sad – even though it might only last a few minutes.

matthew-minerva
matthew-minerva

REALLY? yes i agree – they are naturally drawn to our out-there enthusiasm’ which just seems to foriegn to them. then they try to bring us down! HOW DARE THEY lol!
im glad i’m not the only one!

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

oh interesting – I”ve had that with an October scorp who I now keep at a safe distance. she could be a real nasty piece of work when it came to bursting bubbles. as a pisces with gem rising and i guess her scorpness couldnt hack the flippancy and bouncing around . I do love scorps – in fact I want more of them (the good ones) in my life as there are way too many of the others and scorps make it interesting – or will go along with whatever you’re doing that’s interesting. the others often just dont… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

did a pisces call? 🙂

matthew-minerva
matthew-minerva

One of my “friends” (And i put the quotation marks because im everyone’s friends yet this one is just edging my boundaries!) is sooo a low Scorp – Vindictive & Grudge Bearing YES YES YES! she is a blonde 5 ft tower of pure low scorpionic evil!
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

venusrules
venusrules

Sigh . . . you people think it’s easy being a Scorpio? Just imagine if you had these haute-low angels and devils arguing cantankerously in your brain all the time.
I too have to laugh at how accurate this is. . . yep, I’ve got all the letters hidden away, and relentlessly turn over every rock to see what’s underneath. Taurus rising, though, so people are sometimes surprised when the Scorp shows itself.

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Even when I only knew about my sun sign, and didn’t know I had a scorp moon, I would NEVER of thought it EASY to be a scorpio….

NEVER EVER EASY… passionately, whacked in dark interesting ways, like people that live their life with a leonard cohen/Nick Cave soundtrack explaining their interior workings, intense, profound, but not easy.

I do love the emotional sonar of Scorps too…but then for the most part I’ve had positive experiences with them..

Tati
Tati

What, you other sun signs DON’T have Nick Cave type soundtracks going on in your head all the time? I thought it was normal …Lol

Upbeat Scorp
Upbeat Scorp

Venusrules, I have taurus rising too, as well as venus in scorp. My leo moon must be what stops me from being too dark and full on. I LOVE a good clutter clear, throw old love letters away with glee (the long ones I keep for a while, but rarely longer than a year.) I don’t have a locked box under the bed, I don’t think its good for current relationships to keep old photos/letters from previous lovers.. and I don’t like the energy old love things like that hold.. I like reinvention, and I like it to be complete,… Read more »

Spirit
Spirit

My Scorp Sun sign fits me, as I am an investigative freelance Journalist and hold numerous Gold Medals in grudge-holding….I was also a Zen celibate for several years ( by choice )

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

Zen celibate for nearly 2 years now (by choice of course) after a life time of promiscuity.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Oh Scorpalicious, I did Zen Celibate for three years before, also by choice but can I just say?

I am so looking for a horse – well, even a pack to ride out of Grief Town. haha

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

HAHAHA… i’m definitely looking forward to the “deeply immersed in sexuality” phase

fallen angel
fallen angel

Watch out World! haha… seriously, so am I!

Am even thinking I should schedule a Messrs. Tues/Wed/Sunday arrangement – I’d do all 5 days but I must earn my crust!

Leogroover
Leogroover

“keeping love letters or erotic photographs stored in mysterious locked boxes” guilty I think its romantic never will use for blackmail however never ever “They peer into bathroom cupboards” guilty i think its smart to know what you are dealing with and what drugs they on- I do it to good friends!! but would never tell them and again never use the info against them . I only ever use secret info for good not evil if at all. I work in a HR department and ahve to keep lots of secrets and do it well. Moon and eros in… Read more »

Upbeat Scorp
Upbeat Scorp

I don’t relate to some of the darker scorp stuff, which is why I chose the name ‘upbeat’ but yeah, a lot of it is bang on. I am not above obsessive internet stalking but doesn’t everyone do that sometimes? I mean, how else do you get your ammunition, I mean information? I have a hilarious astro book that says something along the lines of ‘Scorpios are never late. It is tactically unsound. They arrive early so as to sit where they can make sure the sun is slanting into the eyes of whoever they are meeting, just to unnerve… Read more »

Spirit
Spirit

LOL !….. My very first serious boyfriend was an October Scorp ( I am a November Scorp )—we had a hilariously obsessive relationship with each other —lots of intrigue, spying, holding of grudges, revenge….., His birthday was yesterday, and I had a good chuckle on how wacked we were to each other back in our teen years ! I still carry a bit of a torch for him after all these years……I recently found out that he now lives deep in the woods, like a hermit……And No, I never dated another Scorp after him….too much melodrama.

prowlncat
prowlncat

This freakin grass diet is making me too tired and cranky to blog. And it’s only day one! hmf But one must muster one’s energy to have a word about The Scorps. Well all the haute ones I know channel that obsessive energy into something useful. It could be their art, their sport, being the Chief General Surgeon or joining the French Foreign Legion … whatever Turns The Scorp On. Even if in this incarnation they are doing some major Zen non materialistic jag, they’ll do it full on by hibernating in the back of beyond with only rusty tin… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

prowlncat, thanks for taking the time to write about Scorps. It’s much appreciated considering how cranky you must be without your gourmet diet. Your take on things always interests and amuses me.

Point taken on the festering resentment. I think living well is the best revenge and once read somewhere that revenge is like drinking poison but expecting the other person to die – so true! I always think of that quote whenever i notice feelings of resentment starting to surface. It’s okay that they surface but i take care to not let them fester.

JenGem
JenGem

omg i love that – abt the revenge/poison thing – so true and am taking that right on board.

prowlncat
prowlncat

cheers scorpy, thanks for saying that and I’m feeling a bit better now. Refocused. *nods*

yes that’s a great quote … I’ve heard it before somewhere too and try to follow my own advice on the resentment front as Cancers can ruminate in self pity over slights real or imagined for bloody ages! lol

fallen angel
fallen angel

Hear hear. The Cancerian Pity Party can at times resemble a bottomless well though surprisingly we suddenly put our heads up and the skies have cleared, annoying everyone else in the process, haha.. Wow, this is so spot on about Scorps Prowln..specially after seeing that Le Scorp had a sexual addiction that masqueraded itself into my thinking there was anything I could do about it. I specially agree about channeling the obsession towards their art/interest/purpose so much so I am nodding earnestly with no one to see me do so. If I may confess, though I am generally not an… Read more »

prowlncat
prowlncat

It will. The universe is patient … even more patient than the Scorp … and will wait for an appropriate time when the message will thoroughly sink in. But you don’t have to worry about him anymore do you? 😉

Stay away from men for awhile unless you can find yourself a hunky masseur.

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

You could shop online at Madam Vivian’s. http://www.escortsforwomen.com/index.html
(Link courtesy of Mystic) They have a budget range too.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Whoa, Uber babe.. I am SO loving that site! Guess where the Xmas bonus is going to…haha.. Hunky Masseur is a great idea too, I think I just don’t want my body’s last memory to be of him, and somewhere is the urge to take myself back that way, to let go of the pleasures I associated with him.. But since we’re on this, here’s a confession. Interestingly enough as sex mad and obsessed as Le Scorp was, he was fantastically unimaginative and unlearned in bed. Don’t get me wrong, he was good but it always seemed like the barriers… Read more »

Salacious Sagg
Salacious Sagg

Prowln grass diet and all yet you are tres on the ball. Yes, Yes, Yes to all you said. I am just so sad that I did not discover this site until after I met my Low Scorp Tormentor/Dementor. Afraid he loves his family but has been bad news. His own daughter a November Scorp is now pregnant at age 15 to a violent boyfriend of 18!!!! So the chaos continues. I am so hoping his daughter will come to her senses and give the child up for adoption rather than raising the child in Squats etc. I just feel… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

I think this is true. Probably for all. But especially this personality type

crabwoman
crabwoman

thanks scorpinthesky and salacious sagg! all is calm again, for now and until next time but it was nice to vent xo

Salacious Sagg
Salacious Sagg

Hey FA so you too have finally said enough is enough. The Era of my Scorp is ovah too and I wish you were closer so we can lick our wounds together!! Nah actually I am not into Pity Parties but I sure would have liked to have given you a hug and had a toast to a fab future Scorp – less. JenGem and Crabwoman my sympathies to you too and I so identify with the stuff you have gone through. However, I must say in defence of Scorps that the Haute Scorp tendencies are truly fab……when they do… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Ah, I have been in absencia… but must respond to the catalogue of lows and highs…I think a Scorp once befriended truly is a friend for life. They also have the ability to be quietly and strongly compassionate, i.e. they do not deride your sudden vow to never touch alcohol nor do they sit upon any a high horse, they get you may fall off once in a while. Hey, they have. But for this their support is more humane and fully compassionate. Low Scorp? What can I say? Because people I have just unequivocally let mine go. Yes, the… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

hey angel, was wondering where you’ve been all this time. We missed you!!

Can’t believe it is finally OVA with your Scorp.

Hope all is well in your world sans Le Scorp. x

nat
nat

Ha, I thought a Scorp post might just flush you out of hiding FA! So nice to see your graceful avatar again. Was just wondering about you the other day. O.V.A.H. huh? You must have been very strong FA. Hope you are OK. Healing vibes to you x

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

oh FA. top work darling. Sounds like you have been doing some serious Processing / analysing. much hugs, champers/tea and support from this fish

prowlncat
prowlncat

FA my homie crab! I was thinking of you the other day and wondered if your absence had anything to do with That Scorp. Well if it’s over more power to you … look after yourself! 🙂

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

angel! Great to have you back. I hope you’re okay. I never had much nice to say about Le Scorp, but I know it must have been difficult for you to end it. Truly, my condolences.

I’ve been hanging out for you to come back as I found a poem Rumi wrote just for you:

The way of love is not
a subtle argument.

The door there
is devastation.

Birds make great sky-circles
of their freedom.
How do they learn it?

They fall, and falling,
they’re given wings.

xx

prowlncat
prowlncat

that’s quite beautiful Uber 🙂

Tati
Tati

Yes it’s a lovely poem!

nat
nat

aaaw Uber, so lovely. You & the poem.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Hey, L.A. Woman….Just thought of you yesterday…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMVnEGcMsFs&feature=related

“Another lost angel…..City of night….”

City of night for the Scorp part but lost angel? Sounds like ~not!~

🙂

fallen angel
fallen angel

I have missed all of you darlings as well! But as you know fervently flapping my wings in escape can be quite a preoccupation. It seems that when relationships end, it is not only love that dies.. Scorpalicious, yes, it is OVA. How can it not be when I have run out of fingers and toes to count the many dalliances that have occurred. For apparently as I was thoughtfully, carefully piecing myself together, feather by broken feather, he had been busy recreating yet another set of lives, lies, et al.. with many, many others. It seems I had unwittingly… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

fallen angel, sometimes your comments are like reading excerpts from a novel. You’re so good with words. It’s a gift.
Perhaps you can put your thoughts/grief to paper as a form of therapy… could even turn your experience into a book?

You fell once before and you will rise again i’m sure.

prowlncat
prowlncat

Yes scorpy is right … you have amazing writing talent. It’s so poetic and romantic. I’d pay good money to read someone who could write properly like that … unlike what passes for literature today. Anyhoo I can relate FA. When the axe fell on me and the Toro it was very devasting and whilst he had not exactly bedded an entire continent I figure that was only due to his massive insecurity complexes than from lack of desire. The good news was, it was the darkness before the dawn. Ok so the darkness lasted awhile and lots of peanut… Read more »

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

Holy Pluto, angel. You deserve so much better. Honestly, if all the love came back to you that you give out, you’d need to be a good swimmer, because it’d be more than an ocean. You’re the Bombora of love.

It goes to show how far gone Le Scorp was. He missed the opportunity of a lifetime. Your love gives you wings. He never got off the ground.

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

Bombora of love…. hehe. 🙂

fallen angel
fallen angel

Wow. I am speechless oh lovely ones. I think..I have actually forgotten what it was like to be admired? The dark, dank halls of Pluto do not lend themselves to fresh sentiments it seemed. Thank you all for saying this, it was healing to hear all of your support and well wishes. I did have to look up “Bombora” though haha.. Scorpalicious & Uber, I do admit for a bit I simply “lost” my words around Le Scorp, they seemed to have absconded off somewhere, went away with the faeries almost petulantly, as if to say “not with him around.”… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

Tough process. I feel for you. Also sounds like you will fly again when wings are fixed

year of the fox
year of the fox

I’m going to go out on a limb here. Seems a lot of the lower Scorpios I know like causing scenes (as long as they are controlling it) and flame wars. (or maybe it’s just i’m good at provoking. I’m not sure.) If a major meltdown is involved, i rarely find Leo involved, which is usually fingered for drama, but instead a local Scorp. I’m surprised that scene causing wasn’t discussed on this list.

JenGem
JenGem

mmm i think maybe they are more hi-drama than scene stealing – at least in my case. also they ramp up the size of the ‘wound’ that they have received and so bang on abt who did this at work, or at the pub, or at the family christmas – boring with a capital fuqing ‘B’ as aries says ‘selfcentredness’ – i have never seen anyone with such a narrow perspective. and correctly, as indigofish says they just target the other person(s) incessantly… it’s so obsessive. i used to think about the (ex) wife – omg god how could you… Read more »

JenGem
JenGem

mmm just realised that looked like i meant aries was selfcentred. no i mean aries is spot-on with the comment that scorps are selfcentred. (just to clarify x)

year of the fox
year of the fox

ah yes that makes perfect sense! Yes Lower Scorps do go on about themselves as if they are the main hero/ine of some sort of twisted novella. :p If you dare (like me) point out to them how weird it is that they think the whole world revolves around what they do, they get really insulted and mad.

indigofish
indigofish

it’s like they have tunnel vision. that obsession is very flattering when they are pursuing you but when it’s over… and yeah it’s so boring to listen to them carp on about how this person or that person has a set against them and has made it their life purpose to make the scorp’s life miserable. talk about overestimating one’s level of importance.

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

maybe it’s my Cap rising or Sag moon or Venus in Libra but i LOATHE scenes of any kind and can’t stand to be the centre of attention! I only retaliate if someone pokes me non-stop.

fallen angel
fallen angel

All of the above sounds more like it!

Nantares
Nantares

Same here, about hating to be the center of attention. Sun in Scorpio, Gem rising, Sag moon, and Venus in Virgo, for what it’s worth.

A scene in public? Only as an absolute last resort, and even then there will have been a couple of warnings first.

Louella
Louella

wow, sun in Gem, and Scorpio rising & Sag moon here. Spooky.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I loathe scenes (almost too much). I’d rather die than cause a scene. Although my Gemini daughter on the other hand…

Aeris
Aeris

Have had many close female Scorp friends…and every single time it has ended in: either them taking extreme offense over one of my Gemini sharp-tongued quips (nevermind the unbelievably snarky and offensive things they’d say to me on a daily basis), me getting tired of their issues and self-centeredness and disappearing, or me getting tired of the general toxic obsession over every person who wronged them. Ok, so fine…those were clearly all low-Scorps. I also find the men to be incredibly sexy, but have ditched one before who was a friend for being a total mind-fucker. Haute Scorps are incomparable,… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Aeris, get a Cancer into bed and he may yet surprise you.. though I have a weird and somewhat unfounded (I suspect) theory that June Cancers (and yes I am one) are far more raunchy than July ones… perhaps because we’re so near Gemini we like to love strike your mind first?

Prowln what you reckon?

I have absolutely no real basis for this, just some random thought..

prowlncat
prowlncat

well I’m an early July crab and have Gem on the Asc, so I don’t think I count as I’m quite honestly not like other Cancerians I know. But I put a bit of that down to Aqua mars … oooo errrrrr. I’m very rarely attracted to Cancer men either and only had a very short fling with one. Fuq he was boring. And a Scorp moon!! … talk about ripped off.

JenGem
JenGem

this is not even funny – was married to a lo-scorp. it was like a long dark nitemare. o-scorp come across as fun, charismatic, confident but brrr underneath something lurks … over time lthey only are able to concentrate on the ‘1 thing’ that you are not doing for them and take their cue from there and act out with all sorts of bizarre unreasonable antics which they self-justify. they are completely twisted and bitter abt stuff from last week, last month, 20 years ago … what a waste of time they are for a sane person, a complete burden… Read more »

indigofish
indigofish

jengem – it must’ve been a harrowing experience to go through that divorce. the one who gave bad head had ditched his wife when i came on the scene (no prompting from me) and proceeded to launch a systematic attack on her from every angle he could. it was vile. i couldnt stand to even observe from the outside what he was doing to her. it was like a sport for him. yet he would act like he was so kind and nice and loving. *shudder* he started low-grade stalking of me for a while after i left (longer than… Read more »

ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising

Sounds like we met the same Scorp man! yes, we did indeed dodge that bullet!
I am so grateful I left. I seriously am contemplating tattooing that on my arm- a badge of survival.
I felt like Persephone who kicked Pluto’s ass and took over The Underworld.

starstrokes
starstrokes

In one of her pop astro paperbacks, Linda Goodman says that inside every Scorpio woman is a secret desire that she be a bloke…I’ve met some pretty hardcore Scorpio gals, but dunno if I would ever find out they felt this way! In being a Scorp, its locked in the vault…

Tati
Tati

Yep she’s right. Although being a fully functional hermaphrodite would be even more fun.
Acting like a girl sometimes seems like a drag act. I like men so much I’d like to be one, sort of. Although not sure I would swap multiple orgasms to get a penis.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Not worth it, IMO. I researched this personally. Don’t ask how. 🙂

ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising

ditto- I am tomboyish but very much dress like a girl, but just can’t overdo it or I feel like a women in drag also.
Androgynous and elfish is what my true nature is.

plutonicfemme
plutonicfemme

i think adept specialist cunnilingus should be included in the haute category. I had this scorpio boy once….. goodness me, am blushing just remembering.

indigofish
indigofish

I’ve had a few scorp boys. one in particular used to fly that flag all the time, boasting that scorps are gold-medallists in giving head. funny cos i thought he was soooo ordinary. such a let down… though he thought he was brilliant in so many ways but failed to live up to his own hype.

plutonicfemme
plutonicfemme

if i still had the phone number of my one, I’d pass it on to you.

year of the fox
year of the fox

LOL! I find this true too. Scorps have excellent PR and i think they are great folks but i find them ordinary in bed.

ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising

I agree!
The Scorp men I dated bragged but were less than average. It’s the ones that are modest and quiet!

Scorpio Helper
Scorpio Helper

I guess you found The untypical very “low Scorp”, and that is an “anomaly”, those are usually the very self-destructive ones. And being friends with at least 12 Scorps – my most loyal friends), you have to understand that there is so much passion (in everything they do, specially in bed) that it requires the Scorp to be self-confident, self aware of “gifts” he has received, like any other astrological signs, but again: the Scorps are interesting cause they represent several times the “bad boy image”, yes they can be “mean” – the confident Scorp – and even “cruel to… Read more »

Tati
Tati

I suspect this may be true … Being interested in sex to the point of a serious interest or hobby doesn’t necessarily mean you will be any better at it, just better informed and more enthusiastic lol! Good lesson in that to not get stuck on your own PR … It’s tempting though … But I think it can overwhelm people a little and sometimes I find I end up acting more sexual faster than would be prudent for the development of a relationship, because there is PR to live up to!!

fallen angel
fallen angel

Oh I love you guys… plutonicfemme, can I have that number now PLEASE? Or will that involve a hefty plane fare to Oz? Hmm, as for the hype, yes, I will have to agree that there are definitely times that happens. YES, I Fallen, EX-Le Scorp lovah, am agreeing to that. I think the “living up to it” puts a lot of pressure on the performance aspects, I just want to mind-meld which is far more dangerous at times..the times I haven’t been thrilled about it was when it was sort of sex as sport kind of thing. And other… Read more »

prowlncat
prowlncat

the best ummm oral skills?? …. Venus in Virgo. Taurus .. anywhere. Leo’s … some of them.

I’m one of the “underwhelmed by the Scorp in the sack” brigade. I find they like talking about it, thinking about it, obsessing about, plotting and scheming a bazillion scenarios about it … but not ACTUALLY doing it. Obviously I’m only referring to the men here

Little Joey
Little Joey

“I think adept specialist cunnilingus should be included in the haute category” AMEN to that…… I got myself a Scorpy boy and not only is he very, very, very adept but he is also very, very keen. Every single woman (but one!) he has .. ahem… encountered has come back to him numerous times just on the off chance he might be free for a roll in the sack with him. If I hadn’t witnessed it with my own eyes I would have thought it was all just another one of those “Scops are so hot in the sack that… Read more »

Aqua snail male
Aqua snail male

He he! Prince Charles insight ROFL

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

I think that this is spot on as usual but i do love Scorpios for being so clear. eg if you transgress one of their boundaries or offend them, they will calmly tell you that it is a sensitive area for them or something. They will not just disappear without any notice like geminis or librans do. They have ethics. I also fancy one unreservedly at the moment to the point that i have erotic dreams about him and suchforth. So i am revising everything mean that i have ever heard or said about them. Sexually charged and supernaturally adept?… Read more »

ScorpintheSky
ScorpintheSky

I want someone like you to be in love with ME! Working out issues in bed seems like the best-laid plan. Freud invocation intended.

Plutonic – I had never connected that with my sun sign but I feel the same way. I HATE being forgotten. And will obnoxiously mention it if I have met someone for the second time and they don’t remember. More stuff to work on to get hauter I guess!

plutonicfemme
plutonicfemme

yeah but do you pretend you don’t remember people?? i do! how childish. But sometimes i just can’t be assed recognizing people. shocker.

ScorpintheSky
ScorpintheSky

Occasionally pretend not to remember. Worse though, I feel empowered when people remember me and I don’t remember them. Terrible! Must change that. Bloody confessional blogging!

davidl
davidl

you guys are scary.

fallen angel
fallen angel

you guys are funny.

I confess I “fail” to remember people I am trying to escape…that’s less of a tendency that frankly repeating to them what they were wearing, what they said and how etc when I met them – which come on, is a bit scary.

Someone once quipped, “you have a memory like a fekking spy”…

Anonymous
Anonymous

I can’t believe reading all this. I do it too. No idea why. It’s hard wired into me

plutonicfemme
plutonicfemme

Their idea of getting over an ex-lover is to drive past their house only twice nightly.

hahahha i accidentally crashed my ex’s b’day drinks at the pub last week. Was instantly mortifying.

BUT DID I LEAVE? no no noo… NOT till I had SLOWLY finished my glass of wine and flirted with his friends.

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

I like the cut of you jib:)

plutonicfemme
plutonicfemme

unfortunately, low-scorp/high-scorp same-same in that we cannot bear to be forgotten. I don’t care if my ex hates me, i just have issues with him forgetting me! Elephantine memory, myself. (not that this means i ever give 2 secs thought to any of the other exes. it’s only eva the most recent one that matters)

aquaphobe
aquaphobe

hmmm, wonder if a scorp moon would create this tendency too…

in the past have made a point of being seen as often as possible by an ex with a bit of “in your face” i wont be forgotten attitude…only if i’m the one slighted tho…

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

See this is where a leo sun with scorp moon comes in handy…I’ve not really even considered being forgotten….oh and my ego sets nightly in the west…sheez.

Louella
Louella

Scorpio rising here, and this year I broke up with my bf of almost 5 years. While I admit I’m still heartbroken and a part of me still wants to patch things up, the prospect of his forgetting and not giving 2 shits about me is both terrifying and incredibly offensive lol…

Anonymous
Anonymous

Oh dear. This is me, too. Why do I think act and feel like a Scorpio when I’m not one??? I don’t get it.

I love all the Scorpio honesty in these posts tho!

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

*your

plutonicfemme
plutonicfemme

“they draw you out to talk in vulgar terms about sex or money, then withdraw, a slight smirk of contempt playing across their manipulative face”. No way, not that obvious are we? Oh come on, Doesn’t everyone do this? surely. you telling me it’s a scorp thing? ooopps i guess so! Gawd how else do the rest of you amuse yourselves at the pub?

Upbeat Scorp
Upbeat Scorp

This comment made me laugh out loud! Exactly plutonicfemme; what else DOES everyone else do at the pub?

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

I think sometimes my leo sun and scorp moon mutate…as I have people tell me stuff, really personal stuff without much prompting…(I did once get a job partly because my face is apparently so open that people will automatically come to me for help)…but anyway people spill their guts to me regularly, and sometimes, it’s just too weird even for me, and my open open face just shows my discomfort, which may be interpreted as disdain?

davidl
davidl

Yeah we all do it, but you guys taught us how.

ScorpintheSky
ScorpintheSky

Good one Mystic! That’s eerily familiar. The high stuff is a nice cuddle.

“they are so into their precious authenticity that they lose sight of how intensely they are boring everyone” and

“There is something so disconcerting about having a drink with an old Scorpio friend when you find out they’re still in a stew about not having been made a school prefect.”

Ouch. Thanks for the heads up. I will have to work on those ones!

crabwoman
crabwoman

it’s like black and white, love and hate, my connections with them. I have experienced such beautiful friendships with scorpio over the years but as I pick up the pieces, again, this morning of my taurus daughter with her baggage with my ex, her father, the extremely lo-scorpio – I struggle today to remember the GOOD with my connections with them in the past. But I will, thanks for this post because the honesty when they are haute is unique and irreplacable. think I might take up some of that voodoo myself though 😛

ScorpintheSky
ScorpintheSky

Sorry about the scorpio-burden you now have to carry. Your daughter must love you very much for being there for her.