Full Moon Bovinity: Can We Achieve It?

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So, how is your Full Moon in Taurus coming along?

It’s Neptune enhanced, for those of you who are interested in shedding a few delusions or re-modelling their values.

So the Sun in Scorpio opposes the Moon in Taurus as Venus turns Direct – think also revenge makeover, oh-my-godding clarity, the season of celebrity & civilian break-ups continued a pace and peeps have polarized over diet-health issues. I swear there are only two options at the mo:

Camp One: Detox, Alkaline, Bi-Carb bathing, going ape over essential oils again, rad dieting, scrubs, post-modern Vestal, birch as possibly sacred, fibre, keeping consciousness high so as not to be vibed out etc.

Camp Two: Blue Devil Hoochie Juice, rediscovery of camembert and other retro-gourmet fetish items, fixating on a fast potentially messy but fun affair, creativity chanelled into cosmetics and LOUD music.

Where are you at???

Image: Soaring Anchor Designs – Guardian Moon – It Seemed To Chase The Darkness Away

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333 thoughts on “Full Moon Bovinity: Can We Achieve It?

  1. Camp 2 … I just hope that Blue Devil Hoochie Juice and scarfing down tins of corned beef and old-old-old skool Fry’s steak and kidney pies (yes?! but why?! I dunno!?) hasn’t rendered my liver inoperable.

  2. Pass me the blue devil hoochie juice. Looks like I need to find myself a new home. I am so upset right now. I’m back in a scenario I was in over 2 yrs ago where I walked away b/c that was the easiest solution for all concerned & dammit here I am again, totally different situation & once again it’s best for all concerned if I leave. I know it’s not my fault esp this time, I know it’s not me etc but goddamn it it’s hard not to take it personally & now I’ve got nowhere to go & I have to leave fast cause I just don’t want to wake up tomorrow & leave this room. Argh. Thank god I’m going down the coast for a week on sunday.

    Here hoochie hoochie juice. I need you :(

      • Lexicon. Hope it all works out OK for you. I walked out several times and never regretted whatever/whoever I left behind. It’s just a bastard having to set yourself up again – but think of the fresh feng shui!

      • Thanks guys-looks like it has all worked out better for me! Yay. Wow. Who knew you could pack up your life & move into a new home with no notice & in less than 24 hours?!? Left a sour taste in my mouth that my ex/bf/flatmate’s gf hid in the backyard & didn’t even have the decency to say goodbye to me. Which makes me realise she has wanted me out of the household way before I clued in. Argh. *wipes hands of it all*

        So now I’m in new home, with claw foot bath, in a suburb I hang out in all the time, has all worked out quite favourably. Now I can actually enjoy my week away :)

  3. Camp Two

    Upturned furniture. Sleeping on the floor. Closed the curtains to shut out my river view. Obsessively spinning the Oracle….”is x thinking about me”….keep pulling the Death card out of my tarot deck.

    And then I glimpsed that I could actually move on from my past relationships!

    • ouch! stop doing that!! … I mean like you’re going to listen to me anyway but … nonono

    • yes, I was reading these to see if anyone else was alternating 1 and 2. I do a mish mash of both. this is not ultimately fulfilling tho, b/c I don’t go far enough into 2 to get all the hedonistic reward and I don’t do enough of 1 to be fabulous like barista.

      hmmmm. Is this balanced or counterproductive???

    • Me three! Happily flipping tween 1 and 2. Last night was dirty martinis, this morning organic veg shopping, herb planting and face maske. Now thinking about baking (sickly choco thingo now being couriered to Ms. as per below) have ingrediants for making a liver cleanse soup but just got an invitation to a beer garden for Saturday arvo ciders, liver can wait another day.
      Bliss Moon mojo at the mo, lovin the balance of solid and sordid!

  4. Definitely the first, though all indicators would point to the second. I just don’t want to wake up with myself post a night on the Blue Devil Hoochie Juice. Or with anyone else right now. That time will come . . . right?

  5. Camp One, rad dieting – no other chance. Finances dictate no new clothing, so I would rather fit into what is available. Tough when Jupiter is transiting 1st house.

  6. Camp One! In retrospect (he, he..) this whole Scorp Venus business affecting my 6th house. No past love issues slog here, only getting fit and revamping me! I think (?) the Pluto transit on my early degs mega Cap Planets (8th) has outweighed any pussy Scorp action or full moon Bull-Shite! Im tougher then the rest you know! Andโ€ฆgoddammit Jup in 7th and Venus in 8th moon in Leo in forward motionโ€ฆ Donโ€™t even fuqing play with me boy! Game on in a real sense! I am better then before! Amazed with ME!

        • Cool beans with Grinderman (Cave)! No ‘pussy blues’ with option 3 then. I picked up tic for Armin Van Buuren NYE Melbs today. Im way to old for such things..but anyhoo! 3 would be show tics success?

            • Thanks for that! I bumped into him a few yrs ago at the Virgin baggage carousel in Melbs. Such a skinny guy in person, wife and kids in tow. The kids were decked out in funky clothes and he was wearing a suit. He acted normal, chatting to everyone..

              Is he organising the guest for the Syd fest like he did a few years ago? Not sure it was the fest but the Syd Island thing where unknowns appeared and he was sort of ‘unearthing’ them?

            • yep
              houdini skills required – remove fly screen, creep down pebble drive past mother/fathers window, wolf whistle cab, & offer 5 bucks – then bullshit self into prince of wales – holding lit cigarette for cred & not much else. young. very.

              nick was so good to us – we didnt drink, we didnt do drugs. but we were young. & rock punk addicted or something.

              lined up for mother braiding hair for school the next morn as if butter wouldnt melt etcs …….. she knows now but NFI then //// ….

              nice guy, great mum

              Nick Launay – who subsequently became a mate, was iconic in those times. produced the icons of the era …. read the credits on yr fave tunes / albums – tis Launay producing Cave – nick-a-licious! 2 scrawny little bastards!!

              • funny. I have a daughter that I fear is just like you (and she’s absolutely adorable and gets away with so much! but everyone loves her all the more..) she knows how to have fun but a very good egg with a wonderful soul

              • And my little Libran Gdaughter….Heard tell, that she is now wearing her new holiday shoes with even her bath towel …lol

              • Great story!
                I can see my Virgo(Leo everything else) daughter doing this in a few years time. urrg, I don’t want to think about it.

              • mother recenly fessed up they were TOO STRICT with me. eldest.
                ‘um mother – you wouldn’t even let me go to a Blue Light disco – run by the cops & held at the local Catholic Church hall?!!!’ – no wonder made a break for it every possible chance. by 15 was hanging out with the more sartorial end of the hard core punk scene & indy rock … the ost mainstream was Hunters & Collectors. Mark Seymour’s gfnd (she was 17 I was barely 16) & I worked in the ‘cigarette booth’ at Safeway St Kilda. check out chicks, after school. He used to pick her up from work & I’d almost faint. still have hots for him today….. funny!

                by the time we bought Kylie home (‘don’t worry mum shes’ a ‘dag’ but sweet. & she’s gonna be really famous’ …. no one believed the last bit. no one. see her once & you could see the star power in her eyes. even with that perm in ‘Charlene from Neighbours’ days …. but then punk turned new romantic that segued into disco style pop! Oh God – perms!!! Urgh!!!

              • Oh my sounds like loads of fun. I had similar teen years which is why I fear for those upcoming years with daughter who already justifies little white lies with “well you didn’t really need to know”
                ALthough in our day photo id’s didn’t exist, all licences were paper and had height age eye colour skin tone etc. Too easy to go to out then, bit harder now I guess, but what do they do now when you think they are at a friends house?

              • too true – blagging was a sport. cos we goaat away with it. now the cops can check my numberplate & read my driving history prior to even stopping to say ‘pull over’ ….

                we came from an era when women smoked & drank whilst preggers & noone looked sideways …..

                I framed the photo of Jackie O preggers (with I think JK jnr) – on a boat smoking a ciggie reading a mag keeping her hair out of her eye – represented an era of Aussie mums t me.

                try doing that sort of shit at a BBQ now eh?
                imagine the slaying gossip gaggle – eep!!

    • I’m camp 3 too.
      Well I’m in the camp that’s working over the weekend with wine in Gand to offset recent large expenditure/upcoming holiday whilst eating good food and setting a deadline of Sunday pub lunch.
      Achieving practical/material things with wine and brie seems much more taurean to me than either the other two options.

      • I hear yer baby cakes – happily churning it out over weekend also ala ‘as it happens’ mode … & sunday aperitivo deadline!!

        Le Ram’s bucking off again, then back for a sec then bucking off again – more Lord Fauntleroy saving the world via TV commercials for Walmart & Avon or something equally important – so yippee – scott free & none of the “blah blah I hate this country blah blah I hate this city’ diatribe. curtly told him fix it or diatribe to his producer or set nurse or whoever the weekly fave is & scarpered upstairs to watch crap-tastic movie, scheme new horizons & kick arse at scrabble!! oh god – now he’s ringing me from downstairs …. no matter what we are, we are funny!

        • if you feel like getting really down I’m recruiting for a stay in Camp 4 see post below. its not pretty it won’t be fun it will be what it will be cathartic. no more pre tendys anymore

            • My favourite band of all time. I’ve watched the basements series like 2,000 times. ‘Nude’ brings tears to my eyes. It came out the same time Toro X broke my heart by fooling around. ‘Nude’ is perfect for Camp 4!

            • Camp 4 motto for sure!!

              After that post turned off computer & Radioheaded myself off!!

              That Basement session is awesome.
              Awesome enough for me to hook You Tube to the Tele, the Tele to the stereo – & blast off. blissed out in another galaxy.

              thank you neighbours – I love you.
              usually am DJ at Le Ram’s compound, where there’s no night or day or sound restrictions – but back in more built up beach side environment. no complaints. phew!! :-)

              • omitted essential detail – turned off computer, drove home, rewired stereo / Mac etc to Tele – & lost self in 1 hour of the best Radiohead session ever!!

                beat ferrying him to airport at 6 am this morn ;-). plus he was fried – so boring!

                woke up at 7, dog to the beach, strangers saying hello / cracker of a day etc – glorious day here – divine!!

              • Loooove radiohead. you can stay at Camp 4 as loong as you like and then we should progress to camp 5

      • Right on Shell.
        I am also picking Camp 3 (although Camp 4 does look tantilising)

        I skipped the gym, lay on the couch, went to acuputre, ate a _fair_ bit of chocolate, ate a salad (for balance) and went to bed.

        RLP and Capfire… who exciting is Dec/Jan/Feb for gigs?

        I am remarkably please about going to see a whole cluster of delight! In Jan I am seeing a band, then going straight to do a radio show for 2 hours, home and sleep, go to a friend xmas shin dig and then go see a another show.

        • Oh my god Venus, just troll through the
          Meredith, Falls, BDO, Golden Plains and Bluesfest sideshows. There’s bucket loads of joy in all of that stuff.

          • And Womad. That’d cover just about every genre you could ask for in all that stuff.
            Thanks for that. Now I’m all music excited.
            *Stereo on*

        • Joe Cocker & Roxy Music doing the Hunter Valley thing. Not sure where you are located VGG? Ive seen JC before at the Enmore..very, very good show.

        • BDO side gigs start going on sale now. sign up for Moshtix & Tiketek – for advance warning via email sometimes they give subscribers 3 hours or so before general public to buy. sometimes.
          if you miss buying try http://www.gumtree.com.au – more fair trade than ebay (scalpersville!) – tend to onsell for face value or less. only gig I couldnt get tix was Hilltop Hoods. but Massive Attack through Gary Newman tix from someone offing a spare.

          per above – am on board for Grinderman (Nick Cave & Mick Harvey seem yet to hit their prime!) & Black Keys.

          then there’s Iggy / Stooges.
          god oh god oh god if there’s no side show then back to BDO which I retired from 3 years ago.
          our mate bought out Nirvana & Beastie Boys for 1st BDO 1994 – so of course we hung out. Nevermind was released that month & yet to explode as it did. & Iggy, freaking legend, was there too!
          in 2003 or 4 the last time Stooges did BDO he was 59, just had hip replacement & ruled.

          Live music keeps you young. It’s interactive. It takes you somewhere. One gfnd, her 3 daughters are 16 & 17 – it’s so great us & them at Yeah Yeah Yeahs or the Pixies or even the Killers, Air – you name it, we’re a team.

          don’t let go of the live experience, no matter your genre – indulge.
          it’s church in a way. a heightened state of bliss!!

          • You’re right about that, I know shit is up with me when I miss out on ticket on sale announcements cause my head is up my arse. Only clicked sufjan stevens was coming till tix had been in sale for half a day. Wake up call that one.
            BDO lineup this year is cracking, I’ve unretired myself for it. Too many bands I know are great live but I wouldn’t go to see separately, Eg Tool. And I’ve got a trip to Tassie for the Falls prior to that. Canna wait.

  7. Camp 1 with gardening and loud music. Was totally decadent and had a back massage & reflexology.. although did allow myself a sliver of orange almond organic chocolate cake for dessert tonight… Tomorrow: fruit smoothies, gym and more gardening..

    .and maybe a little more cake. ๐Ÿ˜€

  8. In limbo on that, still can’t summon enough energy to do either.

    Have entertained flittering thoughts of both camps but neither got any attention.

    Maybe I need camp 3 also. But what would it need to be to summon my pathetic slothlike being into action? Will contemplate that as I head to bed early again feeling pathetic.

    • Can relate to limbo feeling.

      Earlier in the post, I thought I was a weird hybrid of Camps 1 and 2. Now realize I’m possibly Camp 3 if it includes odd moments of listlessness and sluggishness despite workouts and health food and Vit D and antidepressants (and strange inability to drink alcohol). I don’t think this particular sluggishness is depression in my case. I feel stuck between 2 gears and have a life with certain complications that are like sand being trickled (or poured) over these grinding gears. Takes much energy and blind faith (in what??? don’t know) to just keep initiating, reinventing, and bouncing around. Everyday and all day I have to reach down deep somewhere (no, not there…) that I can’t name to draw on another thing I can’t find a name for to just sort create my life. It’s utterly exhausting, yet I’m a night owl and can’t make myself sleep! Oi. Is this Camp 3? Or have I described yet another camp?—-Oh, wait, forgot to add the hardwired obsession over an unworthy ex that I am completely aware is toxic to me yet seems to be fused with my blood cells—-still working on that…

      • I think that may be Camp 4 honey. We’re all non regimented productivity in good style at Camp 3.
        You can flit between them though.

          • DJ wherever am welcome!!

            Le Ram years – 8 of them – killed time Djing whilst he played his own version of ‘smash-up derby’ – I played tunes. oscillated between vinyl & laptop, & broad genres. so am headlining Camp 3 & doing a cameo at Camp 4.

            reminds me a few years ago here – rowdy crew of Mystic devotees scribed a road trip, in my mini truck, up North to visit Cheshire Cap…. comment stream held the play list. cant recall now who was in the truck but it was rocking!! ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • oh yeah come on down to camp 4 with the rockstar. its gonna be awesome. we are up for any fun I guarantee or your camp fees back in full.

  9. Camp 1
    And it is a nature retreat to fresh clean Tasmania, where I’m forced into high consciousness lest I go into shock at the predominant population of white faced redheaded homosapiens. Yes, I like them and they’re friendly but After a decade in Sydney’s inner suburbs any city with more varieties of cheese than racial colourings takes a bit of getting used to. “We are one, but we are many” I whistle to myself.
    Am also riding my bike everywhere, talking to the animals and trees with reverent and delicious respect and said no to hitting the town tonight so I can get up at kookaburra’s fart in the morning to ride the local killhill.
    Though I do envy the catastrophic nights you over in camp 2 might be having

    • ‘After a decade in Sydneyโ€™s inner suburbs any city with more varieties of cheese than racial colourings takes a bit of getting used to. โ€œWe are one, but we are manyโ€ I whistle to myself.’ Cracking up here! :-)

    • ah yes life in White Australia can get a bit tasteless and claustrophobic. I have recently made the return journey, back to cultural diversity..aahh

      • Am so looking forward to the freedom of leaving my current district once I have finished this teaching degree. I will ‘have to’ move for at least two years and I am practically counting the days.

        I grew up in on the Central Coast NSW and spending weekends in Sydney, and then moved constantly around Aus until I was about 27. I so miss the different dialects and languages that exist almost anywhere else on the east coast of aus other than here!

        Moved to here 6 year ago and still chafe at the narrow mindedness of the place. No longer have the job that I have moved here for and have the support of my husband with coping with my kids so off I go! (or will!!!)

        Back into cultural diversity…..oh can’t wait.

        • The drive to connect with like or diversified minds and ways of being seems present in all Piscean types I know of. One part of us is thoroughly content to build pie in the sky homelands of total fantasy, the other part wants spontaneity, risk and mystique. Well, with a teaching degree under yer kilt you will have plenty of choices to escape the bang of the humdrum.

    • Isnt it, that is exactly the feel of the charriot for me. There is control there but you have to work bl**dy hard to direct your life to the finish line victorous, but it WILL be done.
      Checked out the site that the pic came from another cool one mystic thanks, been really enjoying photography again lately, it was huge for me in the younger days, may make a come back. mmm can smell those black and white developing chemicals wafting through the house now ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • We could probably come up with a really cool photographic tarot deck just from links from the mystic…
        We have the chariot
        Strength could be that gorgeous lion from the other day, although he looked so peaceful he could have been Temperence
        Some of the pics of rooms that get put here are so beautiful and say heaps, they could be great for the numbered cups and pentacles etc.
        Amazing peeps that really do represent aspects of Tarot
        Audrey Hepburn love her, would love to get her in a reading. Would you put her in her sun sign (taurus) – Queen of Pentacles she would surely be a good representation of earthly womenly aspects?(she’s also pisces moon Aqua rising) or some thing else in the tarot?

        Sorry that pic sent me on a mental fenzy!

  10. yoh ok and now that I have actually read Mystic’s post, I am in CAMP ONE. After a few weeks in Camp 2 and with nothing to show for it other than a bloated stomach, an enamoured New Scorpio [hmmm…not quite] not fitting into my sexybitchtrousers [lol], and mental derangement re absent New Toro, I have decided to go with my native Cap Moon instincts and fuq off all the loose naff crap in my life, at least until a REALLY F*CKING HOT love interest appears. or something. Anyway, I have a report to finish and then an early night for my saturday 8.30am pilates class ๐Ÿ˜›

    wow am i actually a pisces?

  11. Im starting camp 4. Just got stood up so doing a revenge makeover on my revenge gene thingy.
    1.Put up tipi
    2stock up fridge with Hooch
    3put on durgy swamp blues from Alabama

    4. put on pyjamas get comfy
    5, Enjoy the drama im a leo I do not fade away

    to tell the truth I’m not that upset I’m jsut loving the drama.
    Already sent my thoughts via email plus 2 txts. Thats enuf
    This is sooo a wake up call thank you MArs.

      • Love, Love, Love this footage.

        I have not seen it before. I used to have the biggest, most honking crush on Thom. I forget how their sounds fuses together live, in relation to their albums.
        Their live stuff has sucha tangible… touchable quality. I haven’t seem them live since OK Computer.
        It’s good to see how ridiculously on form they are…

        • I am now looking at Thom Yorke’s birthchart and feeling remarkably pervy…
          We would probably have a very nice time together O.o

          • In Rainbows….seriously one of the best shows I have seen/heard since Jerry and the Dead. Light show was trip fantastic (even sober) and Thoms voice can *transport me*
            they have remarkable layers of sound, and can still an audience to a hairs breath. mmmmyea

            • When I saw the OK Computer tour, it was a life changing experience.
              Kid A challenged me too much and I just kinda slid away from them. Not helped by a having a boyfriend that disliked them, so it became hard and hard to invest time in them… unfortunately they stopped being on my musical radar.

              • In Rainbows, seriously, try it. Its like everything Radiohead can be, in one album. And sometimes feels to be the closest they’ll ever get back to The Bends.
                Ok Computer opened my eyes to what music can be…. Swoon….

              • OMG shell you R SO bang on re In Rainbows being the closest to The Bends

                *drops iPad in favour of record collection*

            • I was terribly disappointed they didn’t bring that one to Aus. Buggers. I cried after seeing Hail to the Thief … “what am I going to do now?”

              • I commented above under RLP about this, then read your comments. I checked Thom’s astro years ago….*giggles*
                In Rainbows, in my opinion is their best work! Wonder if they were having a Pluto transit during the making of that album?
                Love when Thom sings….’you go to hell for my ordeal’ with that great build in his amazing voice toward the end of ‘Nude’. Shivers, I still cry when I hear it!

              • Clearly, I need get involved with In Rainbows (and Radiohead) again at some point soon.

        • Venus, Mars and Jupiter conjunct *cough*
          Very nice time indeed.

          *evil chuckle*

          Oh… this is a great game:D

          Ok. I’ll stop now and just go back to watching the vid.

          • Camp 5 isโ€ฆ..
            The camp 2 after party.
            Pours another double..extreme delusions, synastry charts with musicians. Im off to spin Mysticโ€™s Oracle to see if Thom is thinking about me!

            • Bahhahahahahahahahhahaa!

              the temptation to go ‘FINE… BUT HE LIKES ME BETTER THAN YOU’ is very strong:)

              Does Camp 5 come with some very powerful day dreams?
              Probably comes under the extreme delusion heading:)

    • After Party’s at mine!!
      Any camp welcome!!

      as for Radiohead – every moment is life changing. The Bends. Ok Computer (first time played it on vinyl danced naked after shower both sides of double album & had to actually call work & fess up ‘am late to wrok because of Radiohead’). Life changing. Kid A – agree.

      but sitting in Le Ram’s truck (I have the little one, he used to have th big one – same same, but he smashed it…) – in his industrial area one arvo. Richie Kingsmill did the only interview Thom did. they launched it live to internet – you bought it for what ever price you thought worthy. they are rich. and a fans band. and no album for how ever long (8-10 years?) – & then they did that????

      insanely good. insane.

      Radiohead guitars / Thom Yorke – will be remembered in the same beathe as Bowie et. al.

      end of sermon – soz ;-)!!

      • PS Thom was having his morning cuppa – Richie spoke to him during the album play but not on radio & Richie relayed the responses. Thom got up early as Australia, c/ time zone was 1st place to hear album. JJJ played it thru front to back.

        got home an hour later & Le Ram was perplexed wondering if I’d had a stack in his truck or something….. ‘babe – am late because of radiohead’. he, at that time, thought they were crap. he, now, saw that Basement gig last weekend & agrees they are up there with the best. better late than never ….

        • Guessing La Ram is an Aries? R-Head could be to melancholy for him?

          Yes to your Ferry sigh! Saw him State Theatre back in the 90s. Have you heard his latest release? Fellow Cap and my role model Kate Moss on the cover. Includes remake of โ€˜Song to the Sirenโ€™ (Tim Buckley) in Avalon-ish style. Virgo I think! Off to Camp 5 to check our synastryโ€ฆโ€ฆ..

          • nah – melancholy don’t scare him, he relishes it (but wont’ admit) – more like wasn’t his idea!

            he racks & rolls …. hence zip genuine 2way interaction thereafter … e.g he’ll think ‘111’ & then ring last person he spoke to re ‘111’. could be 11.11pm or the car speedo that sparks it. the idiot on the receiving end dont realise they are number 111 in the call sequence on that subject …. you get it.

            he’s not always that boring lol!! but I do see / hear all of this. one chick rang excited cos her car clocked 111.111 kms. old.

            soz – but is that exciting? next!

            after all but 10 years of playing Radiohead (UK import vinyl!!!!!) – he gets it. Better late than never. maybe now it is his own idea lol!! ๐Ÿ˜‰

  12. Camp 1! Exfoliation scrub, gym in the morning, possibly I should buy some groceries….. Ooops; 9.30-time for bed!

  13. On my way to camp 2 now that I can bloody well sit down. The trail to camp 2 is filled with seething resentment at nothing in particular really – just stomping around because…. well just because. I’ve been like it all day. Wonder if my periods are coming early!

      • Grin grin. Sounds perfect for my current state of mind.

        How do I put on those cute little faces that everyone else seems to be able to do?

        Do we get to have deep and meaningfuls about the stars, or world affairs? I think I might be bored beyond belief at staring at the same old shit each day with my studies. My mind has gone blank for intelligent words and I’m half in a panic about it.

  14. definitely both… to the max… is the plan! Just before I read this was explaining to fellow loved one exactly this scenario, will do cleanse, massive amounts of excercise, spa, sauna, juice fasts.. AND top drops of malborough region, with most fav goats cheese and qld prawns… maybe one week on, one week off, not sure if that will work, but do need to action camp one asap!

    • oh… particularly after a ?vigorous game of handball with six year old nephew had me tripping on a twig, yes a twig! and pulling a muscle, did not realise i was in that state of rigomortis, it will be alkalining till the alfalfa has babies… well its easy to say with a couple of glasses of sparkling shiraz loosening up my imagination…

  15. CAMP ONE!!

    I have decided minutes ago Iยดm giving up with contraceptive pills, since I am not in a relationship.
    One insignificant affair during retro Venus was enough for me. It seems I cannot tolerate meaningless sex, eventhough I enjoyed the hell out of it.

    Iยดm so chaste that I can barely tolerate it! Also doing a detox.

    GO GO GO Venus Direct! (Jupiter, too!! YAY!)

    • So stock up on some CONDOMS darl because you’ve just challenged the universe to organise a baby for you! x

      • Too True Blue!
        And there are plenty of souls waiting to come through. Hell they gave me one and that is saying how desperate they are!
        At least they gave me an aquarian so she tolerates my lack of ability to be a grounded normal (whatever that is) mother.
        May pay just to do a quick no thanks at the monent affirmation out to the universe just in case – unless of course you are open to the idea, it really is an extrordinary and loving journey :)

        Starting to feel the oomph coming through now, have cleaned the house made lists and eaten chocolate for breakfast whilst making my healthy shoppoing list! I think once this moon passes things will really start to feel different.

        I will then be spending days in camp 1 and breaking out at night to explore camp 2 (that is with the expectation that I will soon be able to stay up) with my BYO margaritas loving the loud live music but avoiding all hottys (for now :) )

    • does the pill take your libido away? That’s a real question – I don’t go the pharmaceuticals as a rule myself so I have no idea what the pill does to you – but that seems ironic that it would take your desire away???? What’s the point of that?

      • Can’t remember the libido thing I was only on it breifly decades ago and it totaly stuffed my system up in many other ways. Didn’t get stretch marks from puberty or Pregnancy, but two months on the pill …

      • There are many different types / doses re: the Pill and they really can cause a variety of reactions – just like any medication. I was on one type in my twenties which just made me feel like I had morning sickness all the time but I’m on a different type now and its ok.

  16. Camp 2 but just for the weekend. I’ll head back to camp 1 for a detox when my Hoochie juice and fancy cheese have been consumed…

  17. Explains why I ordered a Hamburger for lunch at the pub. And WINE
    And chicken for dinner I normally eat vegetarian. Though I will stay on veggies .
    and oileation , Yoga ,cardio .

  18. feeling positively reptilian I am shedding so much these days, Pluto NN bang on ASC. natal moon is in Toro, so some relief would be welcome.
    These last few months I have been picturing myself in an old western hanging on to the rear of a stagecoach choking on a mountain of dirt.
    That must be Saturn approaching MC. Last night commented on a previous post how I would be ressurecting my dream journal due to recent dream activity, then promptly dreamt of my truck exhaust falling off. I was kinda hoping for lucky romance or at least dreams of it, with things going direct and all, instead, the money pit..? huzzah

      • thx, it just came to my mind’s eye during a quiet moment in the storm.
        I have heard Saturn transit likened to swimming with shoes on. I would add, Pluto transit, they are concrete ~LOL!

  19. ah, hanging with the campers in camp two but grabbed a bit of camp one’s essential oils.

  20. Camp Twooooo!!!! I’ve been soo salacious, wearing my eyeliner thicker and my eyebrow pencil darker and I just can’t seem to get enough black metal..Bring it.

  21. haha great post. i’d say i personally feel:

    “keeping consciousness high so as not to be vibed out” in camp 1
    “fixating on a fast potentially messy but fun affair, creativity chanelled into cosmetics and LOUD music.” in camp 2


  22. Camp 1: IN NEED of seriously losing weight!! Diets & it reminds me I need 2 detox b4 the year ends.

  23. i see the vastly life improving fundamentals of camp one and hope to one day achieve them.
    but i’m at camp two at the moment! alcohol, bring it
    p.s. bluelibra, youre an inspiration :)

  24. Camp 2, my excuse is that i AM pregnant, suddenly being 5 months pregnant i feel like i am 7 mths….all i want is booze chips cheese and ice cream!!!LOL

  25. O this thread is HILARIOUS ping-pong!!!

    I dunno – am in the camp that is counting days on the calendar wondering, ‘how reliable are vasectomies anyway?’ …

    Heaps of ‘fertility’ going on in all my other creative sectors too – bloody hell – can’t believe am actually following this line of though – must be the previous post …

  26. Actually, I’m quite happy and content this Full Moon. Everyone else with a fixed Moon is having or has been giving me the shits though. As I type, there’s an argument with Leo Moon mother and Toro Moon sister. How do you kindly tell someone to shut up and leave innocent bystanders alone?

    Oh, I’d go to camp 2, but then realize that’s it’s full of annoying people, so leave and wait for my friends to get out of camp 1.

  27. What was that song by Marie Osmond yonks ago? “I’m a little bit country, I’m a little bit rock and roll?”

    Cappy Moon and Taurus Venus 1 & 2 combo sans the messy/fun ( fun? never found messy fun….Moon and Veenie too serious for that) affair.

  28. All quiet nurturing aspects of 1 & 2: So like 1 + Camembert. Still sick after three weeks..

    My little babe is 10 months old and his Chinese Astro is Earth Ox and Ox hour too. He learned to crawl in the last three weeks or so and going full pelt he has the same intensity as expressed by the animals here!!

  29. Aaaahh – ummm – was going to do Green smoothies / detox all day but have unconsciously eaten 2 slives of choc almond cake.. for breakfast. Oh dear. Think it may have something to do with HOT Leo smsing me for the past four days non-stop, particularly to tell me about the amazing threesome he and his tranny friend got up to with an anonymous girl the other night….

    Am retreating to my garden now…

    • oh dear, he told you that?
      Lovely, I think he might be taking the piss out of you.
      I hope your garden is giving you the love.

      • Yeah he did.. don’t think he was taking the piss. Either way I’m not feeling the lurv I can tell ya.

        But the garden is proving delightful! :) Friends (Real Friends) just dropped off a recycled water tank for me & the garden so am happy bout that!

        • Oh sweetie, that was a glasgow taking the piss, as in he is being thoughtless at the least, and more likely purposefully cruel. I hope it is the former, but either way, well you know.
          Hooray for real friends and water tanks. I wish I had a water tank, and a garden. I’ll have to make do with my recently planted cos which seems to be growing by the minute.
          Take care love, hope your interview went well.

  30. Still straddling 1+2 actually, overwhelming desire to go shopping, spend money, make money, dress like a lady, eat at a fancy restaurant but also craving exercise and stomach crunches in particular.

  31. i’m shedding and phoenixing all over the joint. camp something?
    just the title is where I am at. managed to get enlightened at the 11th hour and have the weekend to bring it home. People have been amazing this last week and I am just utterly grateful for everything and everyone. its been hard re planting, like really hard this year. This week alone, couple of us had to dodge some serious psychopathy this thursdays neptune square. egos the size of godzilla stomping around. ah but when don’t they? at least they are outing themselves now.
    sleep dep and angst about. You should never treat people poorly it always comes back on you. I am thinking about zen makeover and wardrobe love so I have more to offer to myself and the rest of it. Seriously re inspired and full of love again.

    • Always good to get back to the love, I agree, as thought of Mars in Aries office Mgr who had her power stripped by Doc last spring. She tried her godzilla ego thing on again this week (I ranted on the “Mars – So back” thread), and today contemplated that those who abuse power eventually have it taken away.

      There is a saying somewhere about those “not fit to rule”. Her Aries Mars opposite Uranus. She’s got a wild horse to break there. Perhaps her life challenge. My Mother had them square, and until she’d gotten older, she could have a temper, and how!

      So yes today, understand other’s predicaments, but just as long as they know they can’t wipe their feet on me.

      I still love, but for now am silent. **Oriental bow with prayer hands** :)

      • the love its all about the love. It’s my birthday today and people have popped out left right and center to be beautiful in my time of need this week. I nearly tipped into zombieland from fatigue but super humans are go. so I am having that reflective thing you get. I am all about the love in general despite scorping and a very cool thing happened when godzillas fell over and our crew was there cause I had been looking after my chicks since the get go here so there was a net. now praise. gotta be a team player cause its all about how well you roll at the end of the day. now I can give birth to this thing and get back the life balance zenmakeover radness of the century. I am off to eat chocolate mousse now

      • totally with you on ‘those not fit to rule’ but more self important me firstness that only makes people want to slap you. take a number bitches we’re all here waiting

        • Happy Birthday, Ms. ! So glad you had the support of your team, enjoy your day ~ Yay ! choc mousse, I’ll join you with cranberry delight- cheers !

        • Happy birthday babe – good to have your finger on the astro and choose your moment to rule : o) glad you’ve pulled through x

          Interesting what you say about Thursday – was def weird – I’m too busy to astro fiend right now & didn’t realise neptune was part of it makes sense tho. Am dwelling in the only kind of team I can right now – is dreamy to be surrounded by equals or betters. Something to aim for + comraderie. Nice

      • thanks everyone for birthday love. :)
        seriously such a collection of rad peeps on here. touching. I am back on the study mission as of early morn. sent supercrab to india am now 2nd coffee. but a head full of realizations now..

        Strangely, supercrab let me down but I was too tired to have a big one anyway. Not upset but disappointed and puts things in new light. interesting point re venus direct and the whole moving on in general.
        Leo ex swooned in the day before and got me the most amazing present. wooden rocker in shape of my brand proposal Motif I’ve been slaving on he found turned picnic hamper full of Imported wine from my german family’s exact part in the winery we descend from (not mentioned them yet i’m sure but explains my scandinavia looks) with historical write up on my family movement in the winery then moved oz (he is multi conjunct virgo venus-mars and merc-saturn) complimenting GF cheese platter and chocolate mousse. Seriously. I mean how amazing is that? am I ever going to find someone that cool again? slate virgo planets all you like but that level of bespoking is just utter perfection when haute. as for my current?
        supercrab hates occasions (esp his own- tres anti bdays) and screwed up a reservation for massage that didn’t end up happening plus he was late for dinner, then I was so tired when I got home I fell asleep for half an hour so he went to someone elses party! I woke up with a message on my phone. This boy swears he loves me but I know that he is too young (though he would protest) to “get it” and pissing off to someone’s party just cause I am not able to party is not cool. he is solid on the day to day but I only had half a day to spare and would have liked a bit more effort. After 3 years of being treated like the above its hard to go back to well, boys. We are dating he wants to go formal as he swears he loves me but its things like this I just know in my gut are not the level I am at. Leo ex and I are almost exact on love bespoking due to over virgoing. Its a value system. I hate to impose mine but my needs are crystal these days. you are or you aren’t.

        The min this course is over I have some serious life planting to do as I have saturn approaching natal pluto in the 4th and my home nest world is doing my head in a bit. Him going to india will be good so I can have him out of my space and think about my future solo.

        • Oh Ms. sorry to hear it didn’t turn out as fab as it coulda/shoulda but sounds like mega healthy realizations arising therein.
          I had a beautiful crab boy once, well boyish crab man, and although such adorableness was there, he would often let me down, and I am seriously low maintenance, even with all the virgo, so it takes some work to disappoint me. Eventually had to face the truth that I had simply given up on him and had been faking it ever since.
          Me thinks a) Venus heading back to scorptown, great for u to have the geographical distance right now, ponder ponder ponder and b) you should never ask ‘will I ever find someone that cool again?’ because there is no sane and acceptable answer other than YES. x

          • aw thanks lex. I am ok, honest I am genuinely mid everything so I couldn’t have a big one, I never wanted a formal space with him because of age/life differences. We have fun but its more otters in the sea than anything stable. we have exact uranus opp asc in composite so its never going to be anything but unstable. Some love can;t get more formal, I am fine with this concept but I am honest emotionally as I can be. Think I am being given a quick window so I can be true to the path still. I am not looking for LT yet but my ex was/is utterly amazing so we have left massive shoes to fill for the next person. I can feel his coming soon I dreamt of her so I must prepare my own ground for less shock value. I think if we all keep loving how we need we find something real. My next will come when my biz ID is more formed. love is second to career things atm, when that takes more shape I will have my own life again

            • Happy b’day Ms. Interesting we again had similar experience. My day was officially shite, spent most of it dealing with aqua mother madness. Tears and all. There was no celebration of ME! Thankfully a few days later she noted that I’ve spent most of my time in recent months listening to others and not being heard. My big learning has been to get my foundation solid and ready for the big Pluto transit next year. Am grateful and happy to read others journey in this space…. Same trip, different route. Gratitude to all!

              • Birthday greetings postmodern! scorp – um der ๐Ÿ˜ฏ I hadn’t realized it was yrs too. Feeling to preoccupied to read all (250!?) posts here. Wishing you a phoenixingly awesome year to come. xx

              • Happy birthday Pomo.
                Here’s a little you time for you ….
                Happy birthday to you
                Happy birthday to you
                Happy birthday dear so ahead of the staid structures of modernity Scorpion lady, happy birthday to you! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray!

                All together now….

              • Happy Birthday Beautiful!!!
                hmm no good homegirl. I had my mother try to start but didn’t give the option as it was only a phonecall. should have sent her a voucher for a councillor for her b’day. maybe we can go halves next year? I was only disappointed with super crab but really it was good to be hurt and see his true value system that he seems to struggle articulating. he thinks he’s madly in love but really he has fantasies about it all. Pluto eh? I did most of my hard yards there. saturns coming for me now. interesting to see how it affects you as an older person. you sound like a solid girl. should catapult you into something cool. when does Jupiter/uranus hit MC?

              • omg omg Ms my multiple virgo is itching out of her skin, *wrestles with self and loses to her corrective urges* :

                Councillor = political person
                Counsellor = therapist/advice giver etc

                fuq i’m pathetic i know :roll: and hey I hope you had a great night – wishes sent yesterday below :-)

              • Birthday wishes to ya Postmod.

                and the same to you Ms – feel like I said it to you somewhere before but I’m so confused after reading through all these posts. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                “needs are crystal these days” couldn’t agree more.

              • lol. its ok I know its annoying. I really can’t spell and I am doubling homework duties. I know its embarrassing, my multi conjunct virgo went to exacting colour balance and design lines nada spelling.

              • and I meant to type ASC as is in aries non PMS?
                hmm we need to get new short hand for you! lol
                post mod?
                super woman? x

            • always thought your lips looked tres Scando Ms!! ๐Ÿ˜‰

              & HAPPY BDAY – P.M.S!!
              sending joy, love, luck & heaps more your way – soz re Le Drama – but lets see delightful surprises land in your lap unexpectedly!! ๐Ÿ˜‰


        • Ahh… Intense. Far better you know about this in advance this transit. Venus has done you a favour by showing you where the flaws are and making you aware of what it is you need to be satisfied. You got the romance irks after it went direct : o) You’re not imposing your system on anyone, you’re accepting your needs and being aware you HAVE a system. They are what they are. There’s no judgment in them. Simply that his aren’t meeting yours.

          You have an opportunity to renovate from the basement up lovely – some say 4th is the father so it’s like the foundations of all relationships with the gender will be reassessed – it’s aspecting MC too so your relationships with patriarchal and hierarchical energies will be altered big time as well. This is powerful good medicine. For real.

          after Saturn has trawled through your murky depths with Pluto the wheels turn upwards – this is as deep as it gets – and how lucky you are to have the innate ability to go there with that pluto placement anyway – Saturn will bring a form to it – organise it, make it solid. You’re about to build new foundations it’ll grind along slowly and feel like a straitjacket at times no doubt but you’ve got what it takes to let this be the making of you babe – you’re aware and you’re smart. You’re one step ahead of most.

          You have stelliums that Saturn’s about to hit? Well that’s going to be super efficient – you just have to work out exactly what you want to change and work with a clear intent as much as you can and once you’re out of the woods you’ll feel totally euphoric. x

          Not sure but this might help give Saturn another perspective. http://www.amandaowen.com/saturn_is_the_gateway.htm

          • you are astro amazingness. has saturn has passed the IC now 3 dregrees over heading for pluto expect to hit the start of conjunct by xmas (lol)
            really interested in this process but I am really unsure where to live can’t think now but its not like this for sure. I know I have opportunity to do something amazing soon but yes foundations need sorting. House is bigger than the 4 walls I know so trying but hard I have no real family or urge to live in world where only my ex is the person who cares for you the most. He would die for me but I can’t live on that, we must move on. so where and how is my next mission

            • ; o) Uranus Jupiter is making it hard not to bring about a revolution and overthrow everything RIGHT NOW. Is excruciating I know. Combined with Plutonics the need to demolish and rebuild from the ground up is gonna be OTT for you. The one thing I’m getting personally from Saturn right now is the importance of a plan – BORING. But how will you know you made it if there was no plan? God knows you don’t want to end up with one of those 60 minute renos where they turn your living room into a run for your pet rabbit complete with phillippe starck or whoever’s post modern plastic couch (I saw that late one night LOL) on your hands. My god I have to go I almost explained that metaphor – but luckily realised you know what I mean. I’m in essay mode where I labour every point it does my head in and is hard to snap out of – am gonna take my drone back to my 9th house hell. is a beautiful day for a walk and a wine – you must be so over being inside right now. x

            • mmm helps to look at saturn laterally I have found. You’re like the keeper of the threshold if that article’s anything to go by!!! You hold the keys to all the locks and maybe something to jemmy them with too : o)

  32. Sending up s m ok e sig n al s from camp Shiva !
    Camp write it down and burn it up, is in progress ~
    Toro moon has brought me lots of stomping snorting and inner rant / venting re my past screwups to the point where I was going round the corner so fast at work I bought it in the lobby in front of a meeting full of honchos. hilarious, so par for the Pluto course.
    Someone calls out, “you okay ?”…out popped, ‘ok, I bounce !”
    Ms., am joining you in the zen makeover *

  33. Too tired to determine Camp. Am one day into autism conference and have been stared at by two men who stood in front of my booth and sort of hemmed and hawed for an uncomfortably long time. And, no, these men were not “on the spectrum”. This is the first identifiable man interest I’ve seen in god-knows-when, so v. strange. And funny. The second man is a molecular biologist PhD (complete with thick glasses) who promised if I came to his talk, he’d come to mine. His talk? “What Voles can teach us about autism.”

    No. Really.

    Presentation tomorrow at break-out session. My first. Wish me luck!

    Will do my Taurean bit by driving home Sat. night and counting up the proceeds to see if I made enough to pay off the babysitter and the room service. :-) LOL…

    • Good to see the universe is entertaining you whilst you are out there working so hard.

      You will be great, just have fun, you have heaps to offer!

      • Danke!! Oh, yes, the Universe is entertaining. Glad we are on better terms. Am counting on the A/V gods (Mercury, dear?) to be kind, too.

        Voles! Good lord. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

        Babysitter is doing excellent work; she and the Friendly Anarchist have visited the hotel pool 3x today. They’re both a bit waterlogged now.

        Btw, my best here (and I live the US not-quite-mid-south-west) is an Aussie from Sydney. She’s at the conference as a presenter, too. Amazing person and the one who put me on this track.

        ‘Night all! Happy Mooning!

        • I have been looking at moving in to yoga for special needs kids for sometime now. I have heard lots of positive things about it’s benefits for the kids and their carers. I have been doing lots of looking about, some of the best info I came accross was from parents of special needs kids who had a long love of yoga, some really good ideas on how to share the poses with the kids etc.
          I really loved your blog, found it very insightful even in just a different way to view parenting general. I do know of a few people here who teach yoga to special needs kids and am hoping to get some wisdom and maybe experience from them next year.
          Interested to hear if it comes up at the conference, I know the research on it is still minimal but I think many have found it has been helpful as an additional tool.

          • Excellent idea, Hippychic! Yoga is fantastic, but ya, special needs kids would need special needs teachers. Will get back to you later ’bout this…

  34. HOT HOT HOT. Its the full moon in my 7th house and finally Venus going direct, well last night was so much fun!!! But yes with the assistance of blue devil hoochie juice.

  35. bovine beauty treatments and rest already as per daily gemini advice from the wise one… green clay mask, epsom salt bath, essential oils, deep relaxation, sound healing… now mangoes!

  36. A bit of both. Have been good with food, scrubbed (any & all delusions) & bathed leaving me slightly depressed in wash up. It’s hard doing all this kind of emo stuff when your exhausted from work/life, tends to make me dwell because the pluck is sagging lol.

    Thinking about approaching man with truck for an ‘affair’ otherwise I’ll implode.

  37. Pfftt. GO CAMP 2!!!! Had my 1st night alone sans children (18 & 20), a 94y/old and Dan.
    No way I’m going I’m going to detox!! – Although I did have a long spa, drunk and with very loud music.

    • I believe that counts as a detox of sorts: detox from routine, from attention to others, detox from denial of lovely good indulgences! if that makes sense.

  38. Started to read about camp #2…Realizing with (horror? slight pride?) that I’m always there. W/e.

  39. Question on houses if anyone can help.

    So I was trying to work out why my house are 90% in a sign but the ruler of that house seems to be the sign before even though it only occupies a very small segment of that sector.
    eg: I have 5 planets in libra but four of them are in the house designated to virgo and only one in Libran house. So I have been thinking all this time that I had 4 libran planets in house 6 that they were in the house ruled by libra but they are not. I feel like I am not very libran now at all, except that I am a tad confused.

    The conclusion after looking is that the whole house (the whole bit of the pie with the number allocated to it) is ruled by who was there at the beginning not who was there the majority of time.

    Is that right?? :roll:

    • Yes. The sign on the cusp (the beginning) of the house rules that house and whichever planet rules that sign is the ruler of that house. Your planets are in libra – just not in the house libra rules in your chart. They’re still libran they’re just hanging out in virgo’s house. It doesn’t take the libraness away from them it just changes the flavour of them.

      Have you ever seen where astrologers talk about the ruler of the x house being in the x house? Say the sign on the cusp of your 2nd house was libra but venus – which rules libra – is in the 5th so that means the ruler of your 2nd is in the 5th. It gives another layer of meaning to look all those up – cafe astrology has lists of them and so does the strangehouse site.

    • If I could add my own though to whatevs…

      I think of this like a neighborhood, where your “ruler” of a house is whoever is standing on the doorstep of that house. Little like a gatekeeper, but more like a security notice: “This house is guarded by Libra,” which tells you what the expectations are (at least initially) when you enter the house. Sure there’s some Scorpio shenanagins going on in the back of the house, but Libran interests will get you across the threshold.

      All your Libran planets had decamped their own house and are hanging at the neighbors –the Virgos– making sure the Virgos tidiness doesn’t smell antiseptic. Most likely they’ve brought flowers, but Librans begin relationally/aesthetically sensitive have brought something they think will soft the minimalist foyer. Etc. etc. Meanwhile, the Libran who should be in charge of Chez Libra is hanging out someplace else…where? Doing reconnasaince? (sp?) On holiday? Being irresponsible? Moonlighting?

      You can play with the neighboorhood game. I think it’s great fun.

      • yeah yeah exactly the neighbourhood thing works a treat – I use it when I’m thinking about how aspects work – opposition = the peeps across the road who won’t turn down the stereo etc : o) so out of interest do you have a stellium or something big happening in the 3rd house? Or your 3rd is Gemini? It being the house of your neighbourhood I wonder if the ability to learn things and the way you learn – visual, kinesthetic etc. relates to where your planets are at.

        • If yer asking me: Aqua rules my 3rd, but Gem rules my 7th.

          That’s a cool question, whatevs! I’ve never heard someone on an astro discussion page ask that –specifically addressing it from a diagnostic/education theory background. But I’ve frequently considered that possibility. I’ve seen some astrologers look at Merc (or 3rd house) in an Earth sign and say “this person wants to work with physical objects and prefers to have his/her hands on something to learn”. They don’t express it as “This person is a kinesthetic/tactile learner”.

          3rd shows how we process information –or the early conditions that shaped our learning habits. I suspect it’s a good snapshot of our neurological makeup–but it’s just a generalized snapshot. Then you’d have a look at Merc –where it’s at and who’s talking to it –and then have a look at the 9th, which is where a lot of synthesis/higher order thinking happens.

          Of course, that’s just the beginning, as you know. If I had a chance, I’d love to get a hold of about 100 charts of kids with autism or asperger’s and see what the commonalities are.

          • Love it! “…the peeps across the street won’t turn down the stereo..” Really helps to imagine all those conflicting personality parts. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • “If I had a chance, Iโ€™d love to get a hold of about 100 charts of kids with autism or aspergerโ€™s and see what the commonalities are.”

            But I’d quickly get bored with the detail and go looking for a research assistant who could count aspects. ๐Ÿ˜•

            • mmm re the autism – that WOULD be interesting. I have a vague memory of gemini ruling hands? not sure but the kinesthetic thing would make sense if it does and gemini is strong in a chart. Don’t the steiner peeps do all that with their anthroposcopy or whatever it is? Work out the kids charts and use them to teach them?

        • Gosh. Didn’t answer your direct question. (Spaz)

          No big 3rd stellium. Don’t remember many facts, names, dates. NN there so life is inviting me to get specific. BIG Jup/Uranus/SN stellium in 9th. I’ve always been a generalist. Get the sweeping panorama, themes, the zeitgeist, etc. And whot was yer name again? LOL. Sag rising, too. Merc in Cap, tho. Brain needs order, good researcher for ye old stuff…

  40. Went early to Camp Two last week and have been paying for it since. Now ensconced in Camp One and looking forward to a early night – how decadent is an early night and nine hours of sleep?

    • ah yes I took that journey too. Not so much in Camp One as in recovery. Also still not sleeping.

      Question: Will a cocktail of Hoochie Juice and Milk Thistle neutralise any potential liver damage? Just wondering

      • Dandelion tea…. Swear to god, that stuff gets the liver working, but if liver out of whack, the drinking tea experience can be intense!

    • I’m up late spruiking camp 4 will here it is again
      1.Put up tipi
      2stock up fridge with Hooch
      3put on durgy swamp blues from Alabama
      4. put on pyjamas get comfy
      Rcokstar is going to guest DJ with lots of radiohead

      there is also a second Tipi as a detox from the other camps alternative.
      i’m thinking Kraftwerk mixed with Dolphin noises and some mind reprogramming via a video installation of worms crawling
      Just workshopping the concept here care to help?

      • UM – LG – the durgy swamp blues are yours in Camp 4 non?

        hence the Radiohead infusion … is segue out of swamp / elevation up the guitar heaven ladder eh?

        Camp 3 – as someone wisely said WAY ABOVE IN THIS THREAD – has a beer when having a break from all that brown rice. more dancing around in undies than wearing PJ’s & scoffing icecream or something. will paint the house at 3 am whilst fenging & singing on the top of lungs. wakes up early & heads to beach. you get it!! comes back & gardens in bikinis. or mankinis. who cares & carefree is the point?

        • yep spot on RLP and love the RH youtube. anywhere but Byron for beach may run into tooo many ex;s there. Somewhere isolated. Fly in fly out kinda stuff. Always camp 5 wich I started also if camp 4 too wholesome. need to work on levels here and options.

  41. May I ask a question regarding houses too ?

    I have Cap rising @ 3 degrees, IC @ 26 Aries, so 3 houses occupy first 4 signs. Conversely, MC at 26 Libra and 3 houses bascially squashed into Scorp & Sag.
    This is an equinox thing, right ? I am a bit confused if this is what is called intercepted signs .? Have read up on it, but still foggy.
    Speaking of which, rich dense layer of fog here this am. Very mystical !

    • is something to do with how close to the equator + how close sun was to earth at birth I think? Does anyone know for sure?

      If your MC is 26 Libra then Libra rules your 10th house, Scorp your 11th and Sagg your 12th – how is it having saturn in libra right now? Saturn is in your 9th at the moment? And uranus and jupiter on your IC – you are renovating or moving / buying a house? You have pretty much the exact opposite of my chart as far as houses and signs go. How is it for you the “quickening”? Big sudden changes in your house/neighbourhood?

  42. I was REALLY feeling Saturn when it transited my Sun @ 29 Virgo which is conjunct Uranus and Pluto. Felt like going through a meat grinder.

    I was composing my first natal chart for a friend WHILE I was learning and making hand drawn study guides, reading new books, etc.. it was pretty intense. I stayed up for 3 days binding the finished product into a lovely book.
    Just when things slacked with Saturn, the Scorp smash-up hit my natal Neptune (aspects all but 2 planets) and wowsa, goodbye sleep.
    Couldn’t buy sleep with a truckload of blues.
    Now Pluto on ASC in addition to Jupiter Uranus into Aries has brought a major re-organization and chucking of stuff the ex left here when I bought the house a few years ago.
    As far as anything sudden, with the above planets conjunct, I have only just realized it is a constant in my life, so better learn to suck it up, and move on ! I love the quote someone posted here awhile back,’when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro’. heh, yea.
    My progressed chart brings Aqua to my ASC with Venus quintile Uranus.
    Love for the art of astrology/astronomy !
    This new awakening has really helped me kick the Moon opposite Neptune blues…as have all you crazy fun astro freaks !
    How are your transits…Pluto nearing 7th, right ? (I am just now getting the hang of transits…)
    I don’t know about you, but with Uranus and Pluto in the blender, I’m keeping my amethyst within reach !:-)

    • Have just finished a few years of major pluto transits (square natal pluto, uranus, IC, sun, south node and Jupiter and it hooked up with chiron also – that was awesome – I learned a lot through that) and it’s not aspecting anything right now so is not really registering compared to some other stuff that is : o) I do seem to be more aware of subtle manipulations at the moment tho – people who use the language of control freakery are more apparent, the alarm bells are ringing sooner than usual at work I really noticed it this week – sub text. I have natal uranus conjunct Sun so the Uranian vibe feels like home, the suck it up angle rings true – venus was the major fuqer of late because it conjuncted 4 natal planets as it travelled. Saturn’s recently off my sun, Uranus, South Node and IC so the grinder you speak of has passed for me too – that was truly vile felt like I was under house arrest although great for the grade point average. Uranus and Jupiter on the MC + conjunct Chiron + north node are GOING OFF big time for me. Busy. Trail blazing. My own path. No diversions. Is crazy I’m not normally this driven – venus retro gave me 2 weeks of hell that I never want to experience again – ever – so I’m on a goal reaching rampage. Have totally adjusted plans after it showed me the flaws in the previous ones. Now everything seems to have fallen into place suddenly. I’m not so big on crystals but homeopathy + theta is working for me.

  43. yeah, still doing some introspection on what Venus retro brought. Sorry it was a bugger for you. Gotta love the new Uranian Chiron trailblazing, tho~ all good !
    I am with you on the control freaks, I am forgiving with the strong Neptune, but to the point of pointless personal sacrifice, no more !
    I am finally taking the reins in conquering my personal demons, and astro has been a big step towards enlightenment. I feel my transits now are a graduation of sorts (Saturn nearing MC, Uranus opp Uranus, Pluto, etc), reaching a certain age, and I have grown a low BS tolerance.
    Enjoying the study and enrichment of my mind and shrugging off the idea I am ‘less than’ without a mate or kids. I love books, music, movies, not a big tv watcher, no apologizes.
    I AM getting some weird readings from others regarding their viewpoints of me (Pluto in 1st), so juries still out while I wait for the dust to settle.
    I googled theta, very interesting, I will look further into it. Music is a great healer for me. thx

    • people thinking things about you that aren’t necessarily correct can be MC – maybe Saturn is contributing to their errors too? Uranus + Jupiter will be tweaking it too. Big time. In many ways people can become “less than” when they HAVE mates and kids – they’re able to merge and let themselves slide – and I don’t mean that in the physique sense. They just stop dead at the moment they were at when they hooked up. So being solo or having a relationship that grows and changes is the go I always think. Better than being stunted because you grafted onto another life force and gave up some of your own instead of expanding it together. Working out who you are and where you’re at is way easier solo. Is good to have time to clear the decks and take stock I don’t really ever understand why people complain about it. I think it’s a luxury. Peeps who can’t be alone with themselves make really high maintenance partners. Your low BS tolerance will help you steer clear of them and give you time to sort your head out. Is good. All of this is good.

      • Yes…I was just thinking yesterday how peaceful it is here in my studio.
        I keep weird sleep hours (not always on purpose) and am able to turn lights on and off whenever. I like being able to choose when I want company, and I am content with my books, and sorting out my life.
        I am Virgo enought to get a wacky thrill out of organization, it suits….
        I always wanted a library/den/studio. Now I have one filling up with astrology books, which is a study I have wanted to pursue for years, and I quite like it. Thanks for your help whatevs. Best to you as well.

      • Totes agree about “Peeps who canโ€™t be alone with themselves make really high maintenance partners”. I make the ability to be by oneself and enjoy one’s own company a requirement in a partner.

  44. oh geezuz, I almost fell out of my chair when you mentioned the pending thoughts of a fast but fun and messy affair, good god, I am not the type to go there, but out of the blue this old flame calls from fives years ago, says he is Jordan returning to the states and wants to see me. WTF, that never happens to me- not to mention nor do I consider these fuqing things, but then I find myself block calling him to hear his voice, and when I do I hear the faint beat of my heart say— “say hello you dum ass”
    But I hung up- I have a good honest honey, the flicker of a beating drum leads to the battle cry’s of a broken hearted love-
    when the hell does this madness in opposite thinking stop?!
    Oh, and I am starve dieting… im screwed.

  45. I finally feel like I have reached a point I can leave a very troubling situation with another person in the too hard box, with going back for a prod, thanks retro Venus. So last night I have an(other) elaborate dream re said person which is all about fear of placing trust and responsibity in another. The kind that you wake up in the middle of going ‘nooooo’ and then fall back in to. There were even both of our mothers hovering about like significant contributing factors they were (on my side at least).
    Of course the outcome of the dream was in no way a reflection of the reality, and really makes me wonder what the f’ my brain thinks it is going to achieve by churning out this stuff. It’s like it actually wants me to continue to torture myself over it all. I am astounded (and a tad saddened).

    • I am mid assignment (yes, that’s why I’m here procrastinating) and not really all there so soz I can’t for the life of me remember anything about your chart but wtf is up with your neptune? Your dream states are phenomenal. Maybe all the dreams have really been about your mother and father and their relationship and how you’ve adapted it to your own coupling style? I dunno.

      I’ve been investigating a meditation system that is based on sanskrit texts and breathing and the thing they say about the images and messages received in altered states are that you simply observe them or sit with them. I’m not sure if it works or not but I do get it that sometimes the search for meaning in the waking state can seriously overcomplicate things. And you’re a big thinker there’s no doubt about that – do you think writing them down so they’re released and then just letting them go and returning to them later when you’re not so “in” them would help relieve the tortured feeling? There’s enough people in the world with implements of torture without turning them on yourself.

      • Yes, Neptune. Sigh.
        I have it sq my Pisces moon nataly, and it’s currently moving through squaring all my Taurus stuff (venus and merc at present but shite loads of other things done or to do).
        I’ve always had vivid dreams, but specific people do not generally feature in the way this dude has. But we met when Neptune was bang on his mars, which is sq my venus, so it’s pretty Neptune influenced all round.
        Aren’t all relationship things somehow tied into our parents?
        And yes, usually I just go WTF and then get on with whatever. I woke up from that one going, this is exactly why you are staying in the too hard box boy. Saturn is bored with it.

        • The mother bit made me laugh though (till mine turned up at least). In the dream his mum called me and was telling me I needed to pay attention to the subtext of the things he was saying and was kinda hanging about making sure he broke basically. Except his mum was Asian in my dream, whereas he is eastern European.

  46. What is the effect of the current sun and moon reflecting one’s natal chart?? As is the case of my Scorp Sun opposing my moon in Taurus.

    • Do you mean you have natal sun moon opposition? Or the transiting moon opp your sun? The latter is a fleeting emo insight into self, perhaps? Look at cafe astrology for good details on the former. You would have some kind if back and forth between ego and emotions would be my guess? Others here are way better than I.

  47. The former – natal. Thanks for reply. Just interested to know if it means anything when planet combinations align with the birth chart. Will try looking it up..

    • Just think of it being amped up. You are more aware cause it’s fleetingly doubled. Happy birthday!

      • Oh ok cool, thanks for that. Perhaps not the easiest combo. Et thanks for b’day wishes, was on 3rd :)

    • Funny – when I read Ministry my mind went to the NIN index card in the memory cabinet instead – Bow down before the one you serve came into my head and I pictured an ethereal piscean kneeling before a giant black pudding. It’s not them tho is it… But it did make me laugh.

  48. Errm, mostly in Camp 2 but also doing exfoliation and beauty treatments with organic products. Plus taking my Milk Thistle and daily vitamins with T2 Detox tea (awesome tea). Eating heaps of salads, blueberries, mangoes and quality food. This full moon is conj my natal jupiter in the 3rd house. Love toro moons, always.

    Am nearly delerious from delicious indulgent lunch of rocket/pear/blue cheese salad; pumpkin/walnut/chicken salad with sourdough miniroll with duck/orange pate (not usually on my radar but divine nonetheless). Followed this with fresh blueberries and mango ๐Ÿ˜ฏ how much can a girl take. Camp 2 theme is that all this was taken with generous amounts of my favourite margaret river white :-)

    Spent yesterday sorting new deal with telstra and upgraded my communication systems – everything including new phone etc. Toro 3rd house! Also bought a new sound system (very overdue).

    And now i face a lazy afternoon of catching up on my reading listening to tunes on my new sound system. Bliss to the senses – toro style.

  49. “Going ape over essential oils”

    How about going ape over those bach remedies.


    Pluto Juice arrived on Friday just as Venus & Jupiter went direct. Been quaffing it yesterday and today. AMAZING!!! I think the combo of the retro vibe ending and the juice is having a phenomenal effect. Where I felt stuck and lethargic mentally i am now ready and rearing to go. Having to tone it down just a tad. Feel like I can do anything. ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

    As for which camp I’m in – that would be ONE.

    Am realising how much my Taurus in Venus has made me crave comfort food over the years. I know that my food has be delicious AND healthy though to stop me overindulging. Bland never works with this placement. So I can have the chocolate (as it’s 70%) and enjoy the salads as long as it has black olives, parmesan, and fresh basil from my garden. Is that eating like a French woman? lol Going over all my beauty essentials too – use as many natural based products as possible usually and currently deciding on a good facial cleanser.

    • Hi Empress, I’ll share a secret re facial cleanser – Cetaphil – cheap, available at the chemist. A dermatologist recommended it to me when in my early 20’s. I have used it ever since. My beautician uses it and my daughter’s friend’s dad is a dermy and their entire family uses it. Suits all skin types. Most essential to get the best sun protection and exfoliation/renewal.

      ps eating like a French woman is definitely the secret ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Thanks for the suggestion Ms feline. I think I used a body wash by them a few years back when I had an allergic reaction to another body wash I was given as a gift. lol It’s got parabens in it though and I’m pretty much an all natural kinda gal these days. The one I’m currently using has essential oils in it and is vegan friendly just feel like a change due to the climate. But thanks again for the suggestion. Love finding out what works for other people. xx

        Have you ever done that french woman diet? The one with the leek soup? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

        • oh non non!! Classic French women’s diet means always eating minimally and no snacks or excessive drinks (only a sip or two). It’s all down to the art and taste not the quantity. At occasions celebrated with food the French woman will have considered it and both a adjusted her intake beforehand and afterwards. But still it will be minimal and they never clear their plate (unthinkable!). They embody the saying “everything in moderation” – that’s why they can smoke ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • totally agree! its great stuff -though watch the pump pack it looks exactly like jizz

        • jizz it iz… soz, couldn’t resist :-) So true – you need to watch if the pump nozzle gets blocked with buildup. You are happily off to cleanse when kerbam – jizz in an inappropriate place, only it’s just cetaphil not jizz but they sure do look the same (without the scent ๐Ÿ˜†

      • I will second the endorsement of Cetaphil. I have rosacea so I can’t use soap on my face or my skin breaks out. My dermatologist recommended Cetaphil, it works wonderfully and is very mild.

  50. Ooh I spy the Luna Luxe

    <————–over there

    *excited about what, when, why*

    Amazing vision of the full moon in my dream this morning followed by Neptune – didn't know it was Neptune til I googled lol. I feel tonight's gonna be an important one.

  51. Loud music is very, very therapeutic. Funny listening to stuff like The Cult (Love Removal Machine lol). Preference for anything with edgy energy.

  52. My Taurean Full Moon was spent with CowGirl, but of course.
    Test drove the new car, Phoenix’, to see her & AquaMan as
    it was a gift from them. Did 600 kms & it was cool & smooth as.
    SHE is so Venusian, HE is so Uranian. Prototypes.
    It was pretty much Love Central on w/e.
    Sun Moon Stars….great peeps, great food & wine
    fast car.
    But conflict with the water clairvoyant on the friday which i truly hope
    is settled Monday arvo…..wierded beyond. Totally strange. Friends said
    i was being manipulated & trying to be controlled…mmmm acurate astro AGAIN.

    • hi pegasus – who’s the water clairvoyant? Sorry, am following your story but must have missed something.

      • Hiya, FF, the spa-sauna-reiki-clairvoyant woman
        i saw twice before i restarted work. She has been
        calling & texting me at odd & inconvenient times.
        Lent her a treasured Atlas of Body & Mind & she
        is giving me grief about returning it.
        Booked a mini-workshop with her partner & cancelled
        after i spent 3 hours writing it out. Texting me at 7am
        asking for my contacts, stuff like that.
        I paid her for 2 sessions (not cheap), my tythe to the temple,
        so my keeping the book, she’s keeping me connected.
        We have discussed the validity of clairvoyants here before
        & i sang her praises.
        In the spa session, my toe hit the jet & i jumped, she said
        ‘it was an entity leaving my body’, but was too diplomatique
        to say the water tickled my toe :-)

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  54. hmm… well Mystic I reckon I’m in both camps… spent the day reading up on rejuvenation techniques, meditating, trying out new anti-aging supplements & skin products and eating salad, between bouts of flashbacks to friday nights’ tequila-fueled romp with the Very Young Capricorn and viewing episodes of Mad Men and Fringe on DVD. This full moon is quite close to my Mercury opposite Neptune so trying not to take anything at all too too seriously.

    hmm. *eyebrow raised*

  55. I find myself completely obsessed with my digestive system! What on earth is going on?! Googling bentonite, food combining, colonics and associated theories, for and against. I’m going with it and will see what happens (the food combining, not the bentonite – I draw the line at swallowing clay).

    Ready for the next thing, not least a peek at MM’s latest offering Luna Luxe which I can see on the side here, but which is tantalisingly out of reach!

    • hee hee ever seen the DVD on Robert Crumb, the famous cartoonist ? His family is pretty ‘out there’…his brother was filmed sitting crosslegged on the floor eating a very long string (?) for digestive purposes. (shrugs)
      I’m all for eating right and getting healthy, but I gave up mudpies and odd bits long ago.
      I have heard of the food combining though, supposed to help digest better and set off proper chemical reactions, no ? Definately interested in that, Sun conjunct Uranus (in Virgo) makes me and my stomach kinda twitchy with high stress situations, and I have sworn off lots of foods for health reasons.

      • Is THAT what that is? I have Sun conj Uranus in Virgo as well, and haven’t eaten meat since I was 13/14 (Saturn opposition?), and sworn off other things because they’ve crossed me at some point (oranges for example, which gave me a headache once about 25 years ago, and so on).

        • You sound like my aqua daughter – she has sun conj uranus but in Aqua with virgo moon and rising. If a food crosses her once or didn’t taste the same as last time – it is never eaten again – no mum don’t talk about it I am not ever eating that so don’t try!!

          • so it’s not just me, interesting~ glad I brought it up.
            Funny, HC, many nights I remember sitting alone at the table facing a plate of cold brussels sprouts. still off those weird little slime balls even after all these years ha

            • Woah! flash back! Yes we have never used that particular parenting technique as it never worked on me. I would just sit my stubborn butt there at the table till I fell asleep (or fed the potplants)!

    • me too virgolicious! I have Mars, Uranus & Pluto in Virgo all in the 8th house. I know the 8th house has nothing to do with health but I’m certainly obsessive about my diet. Have been all my life.
      I have a pretty delicate digestive system and all it takes is the slightest change in routine and I’m stuffed! I totally freak out if i don’t get a daily dose of veges. I HAVE to eat healthy food it otherwise I feel really unwell and I break out.
      I wish i had one of those iron stomachs that people who can eat whatever they want seem to have.

      I had a colonic once (the most embarrassing experience ever – never again), food combining is impractical and so is the Eat for your Blood type diet. I’m sticking to the everything in moderation approach.

      The tail end of Venus retro was a nightmare. My skin looked horrid! Think it was too many late nights as there was no change to my diet and I was drinking plenty of water but still felt dehydrated. Feeling better now that I’ve had a chance to rejuvenate over the weekend. *sigh*

  56. This one hits on my 10th h./MC. I elect Camp One, but for those who go for Camp Two; I say ” Rock on “.

  57. Apparently I have achieved total Taurus bovinity. I just checked my astro software. I was surprised to see that this full moon was exactly over my Taurus Sun/Moon conjunction. So of course that means the Sun was in opposition to my natal Sun/Moon conjunct too. I have no idea what this means, but it must be significant somehow.

  58. Wow, this was an interesting Full Moon, it was on top of my Saturn/Venus conjunction, opposed Jupiter exact, and just had a big revelation at exact Full Moon moment about self-worth, after flipping out – introvert way.

    A string of events today, with a mental voice finally rising: dudette, they have 6 fig salary, stable job, and here you are thinking what happened to them.

    Decided to give mental banishment to all persons in my life who go on with their lives after sharing their troubles with me – in abundance. I mean, I worried for them, I lent money to them, I stayed up late to finish their work for them. Arrested I am, I finally realized these are the same people who do nothing but deter me from achieving my own goals. Finally peeps made me come to point of set and forget.

    Haven’t felt better in a long time. Come dark of the moon, I will clear the remaining clutter from my life.

    • ah, thank you for your thought on the dark moon – I was self-guilting somewhat over a few messy loose ends remaining post Venux rx and associated Scorping. Good to know I have 2weeks to prep the large broom and sweeeeeep the last of the mess away!

  59. I think this fulll Moon was special. This morning, (Pacific Time, U.S.), was out running errands while the full Moon was happening. Most gorgeous rainbow!

    • I associate rainbows with the Arc of the Covenant (I spell it with a “c”, not “k”, as in Ark), because to me, it’s an Arc of Light and it represents a promise… (just like in my Enya song from yesterday…May it Be ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

    • Yes me too Sweets, me too…. I thought I was over being ill but my fever went back up and my throat glands achieved full moon bovinity by themselves! Ah, combine that with a pounding migraine and a shrieking full mooned gummy teething bubsy.. it was truly a time of expansion and fullness in my home!!

  60. Wow guys, judging by the amount of spritely comments I do indeed think Full Moon Bovinity has been achieved!

    • haha… And now off to the gym and sauna for me as must “de-puff” (a little too much wine yesterday during my bovinity engrossment/music/emo melt down while Moon conjunct my Veenie).

  61. Also interesting to note for me that this during this Moon in Taurus, which opposes my Moon in Scorpio, I have had to give up breastfeeding!
    The moment it went it exactly opposite was almost to the moment of the decision.

    My poor nurturing Scorpio Moon met her match in a Toro Moon and a Cappy Baby.

  62. Wow this post went nutso! My full moon was nice, deffo camp one in the end with nothing much to report, no need for salt circles or quarantines just shopping, food and the usual moon awe.

    • same – zip drama – having Le Ram across the ditch & communicating via SMS conversations defo a bonus!

      relished gardening in bikinis, sprucing up the outdoor areas for summer, playing with the dog & trying to work out where to go for xmas!

  63. I feel like I have a massive hangover and didn’t even do that much. Ha what camp was that that gave us a memory erase on the way out – just so their is no guilting for what we ate did etc – the music must of been loud though my ears are throbbing.
    Or maybe not so exciting, I have just picked up my childs ltest bug – yah (not)