Asteroid Theodora And Byzantine Role Models

Byzantine Empress

I am reading Theodora – Actress-Empress-Whore by Stella Duffy

I love it. She rose from nothing (her father was the bear-keeper at the Hippodrome in Constantinople, her mother a dancer – when her father was mauled to death by a bear, the family were left destitute) to become the most powerful woman of Byzantine Rome. Her erotic performances scandalized and titillated an empire. She saved a throne. She was amazing.

It is infuriating that there is no exact birth date recorded for her. It’s all “circa 500” so it’s impossible to get a chart for the sensational Theodora, a truly inspirational role model for modern woman.

But she IS an asteroid – number 440. You can throw it into your chart via Astrodienst’s extended chart options.

Let’s just go for it and say that asteroid Theodora is where you’re sexy, imbued with life force and have the capability to rise from the murky lower depths to the shining heights, undefeated and powerful.  My Theodora is conjunct my North Node so i’m going with that interpretation.

Where is your Asteroid Theodora?

And who is your favourite inspirational ancient Hero or Heroine?

Theodora Stella Duffy

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milanka
milanka

My Theuta is in my first house in Leo at my Asc…And at the Sun Moon conjunction of my bf…As a young child I was in love with Teuta…Great post! Thanks…By the WAY I AM scorpio…

Astrogeek895
Astrogeek895

Oh wow… Right at 0 Aries, Sextile my Sun and to Saturn, Conjunct Mars, Quincunx my Midheaven and Trine to my Pluto/Ixion/Quaoar/ B.M. Lilith!

Bluesky
Bluesky

I just realized that in addition to my theodora (natal) lined up to be conjunct Pluto (next year this time), I’ve really got my North Node transiting Theodora at the moment. Don’t know how I didn’t see that earlier… I know Mystic gave Theodora’s attributes, but I’m still fuzzy on how that combines with North Node. I think of North Node as evolution/where we are headed or where we have arrived after self-work.

yeshlekhaesh
yeshlekhaesh

i just had a thought, what about checking if there is an asteroid with your name and seeing where that sits in your chart?

Charles
Charles

You can check in the alphabetized list of named asteroids here:

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/lists/MPNames.html

Alas, no asteroid Charles. But surprisingly, there is an asteroid with my last name! A distant cousin is a serious astronomer and had an asteroid named after him.

After that, you can pop the number of the asteroid into the chart gadget at astro.com. I tried that and oddly enough, my last-name asteroid is sitting in the middle of nowhere in my natal chart, and makes exactly zero aspects to anything.

yeshlekhaesh
yeshlekhaesh

theodora conjunct chiron, in virgo and 5th house..

does any one have any possible interpretations please?

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

Boadiccea.

year of the fox
year of the fox

Theodora is sloppy conjunct Mercury in the 11th house with Scorpio. So yeah I rose from nothing in the friendship/social life dept (picked on and bullied) to being a hub of friendship in my current life.

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

Theodora is the only thing that I have come across that is in Pisces in my chart.
*wave to baristagem at the top of the thread* Meeee tooooooo!

It’s 31 degrees and right smack bang in the middle of my 5th house.

O.o

sagitta
sagitta

My Theodora is like Mystic’s –conjunct my north node–in Gemini in the 7th house. Two of my inspirational ancient heroines are Antigone and Penelope. Antigone is asteroid 129 and Penelope is 201. I looked them up and was thrilled to find that Antigone is in my 8th house–FINALLY, I have something in my 8th house! Though there are no significant aspects, at least there’s something in there. (Kind of interesting that the Antigone story is all about death.) Penelope is a “crafty” weaving woman, and she held down the fort for 20 years while her husband was off at the… Read more »

nancyx
nancyx

Theodora is conjunct my Neptune in Cap, 7th house.

So… Neptune makes me a bit prone to illusions in regards to my relationships with others, but Theodora means I sexily and powerfully bounce back each time! And good ol’ Cap means I’m pragmatic about the whole heartbreaky affair!

Ms.
Ms.

I only got to know more about theodora last year when I had to style a shoot based on her, I did a lot more reading than I had too because she was so fascinating. Theodora is on my sagittarius DSC opposite ascendant, just tipped into 7th perfect love? mistress of my heart? I love heroine stories. when younger I had a massive jean d’arc phase. I think it was the guided by voices thing and a girl in armor trying to save her people. The whole saving your clan from extinction, rising up to protect your people thing gives… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Ms., when in Paris, France, was quite humbling to be in Notre Dame where Jean d’arc had her trial. Vibes very potent.

“Tell me all your thoughts on God. Am I very far?”…asks the child.

“God” may not be a man nor a woman essentially in the larger term, but women need a voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clxtg2pFTQM&feature=related

Ms.
Ms.

such a full on end to serving your country

agree Notre Dame very eerie potent x

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

The world is full of so much complacency…”Let’s sit in front of the telly and be a vegetable” that to truly be willing to die for what you believe… Other than the military (which many find the intentions of questionable), is there such a thing esp. for women? Will we die for what we believe? Know I was already thrown to the Lion’s in another time. Don’t have to do that now but respect those who have. The whole idea is to smash illusions of death and what some would like us to be afraid of. I’m only afraid when… Read more »

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Theodora in Taurus conj Jups in the 3rd and v close to IC in Gem. Thanks for new topic Mystic as I’m in the mood for random musings tonight as it is miserable weather here in Bris – wet and cold and I’m staying in. (Libra 8th house) My favourite asteroid would have to be Demeter aka Ceres – great mother goddess and goddess of the earth, harvest and seasons. She hung in there against the abduction of her daughter Persephone by Hades and persisted in using her powers to persuade Zeus to intervene. I also love the stories of… Read more »

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Found this about Hecate which is exactly what I need at the moment: “The Greek goddess Hecate reminds us of the importance of change, helping us to release the past, especially those things that are hindering our growth, and to accept change and transitions. She sometimes asks us to let go of what is familiar, safe, and secure and to travel to the scary places of the soul. New beginnings, whether spiritual or mundane, aren’t always easy. But Hecate is there to support and show you the way. She loans her farsightedness for you to see what lies deeply forgotten… Read more »

Sassy
Sassy

Very interesting ff!! As i have Hecate also in Gem, along with Theodora. Change and growth.. Hope she works for you ff..love and light to you.. x

Can be hard to let go, you are Cancer right? Soz if i mistaken. 🙂

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Am Leo but with NN/Vertex/Mars and Moon in Cancer (and you could add Venus as she is at Gem 29.59 conj all that); so yes to finding it difficult to letting go of feelings and some people (but not things so much). Love reading about the goddesses, so much feminine power and greatness buried in HIStory. Love and light to you to Sassygirl x

The Empress
The Empress

*adds another possible asteroid obsession to the list*

Theodora is in Taurus in the 6th and is conjunct my Saturn and trine lilith – by 0.03 deg. So I guess these two (Lilith and Theodora) work in cahoots. Why am I not surprised.

I do need to work on this 6th house stuff more.

The Empress
The Empress

Forgot to add:

Thanks for the book suggestion Mystic x

MusicalLibran
MusicalLibran

Right. So – Theodora is 1 degree Libra in my second house….money and possessions. I have Sun in Libra and Mercury in Libra in my second house too. Never seem to have enough money – but can rise above that?

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

Theodora Conjunct Neptune in Sagg in the 9th….
So sexy and imbued with life etc with a mystical, far flung travel option incorporated, but beware the daydreams….
God, that is so my life. In the last 15 years I’ve had one flirtation with an Aussie boy… the rest have all been foreigners, and travel is my raison d’etre.
Ok – Please Angels – help me manifest this in a wonderful and positive way.

shell
shell

This has got nothing to do with the topic, and is more in line with the ‘wombat’ discussion. But it made me laugh… And I quote ‘my baby calls me the loch ness monster, two huge humps and I’m gone’

*snort*

elderly lioness
elderly lioness

Greatly admire Theodora, but have no idea where the asteroid is in my chart. Another admirable woman of ancient times was Goharshad wife of Shah Ruk who was a son of Tamerlane. Goharshad’s architectural masterpieces still exist in Afkhanistan despite the Taliban. Her rule was much more liberal than is the case today.

prowlncat
prowlncat

I’m fascinated by matriarchal civilisations and/or eras, particularly why they don’t tend to reign for any significant length of time as opposed to patriarchal systems.

Afghanistan is an amazing region … ferociously tribal, not particularly predisposed to having “democratic capitalism” foisted on it. Iran is another incredible place … so rich in culture and mysticism and altogether shifting from one region to the other.

I wish I could visit … but in these times it would be a dangerous proposition.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

When I got married to my Iranian husband in ’78 we were going to go live in Iran but the revolution started. He had always said there would be time but it was all dashed. Had to live (and learn to cook) through my American friend who had been a teacher there and remembered the times of the Shaw of Iran (he was quite the devil also, apparently) but at least women could be modern and wear mini skirts, go to the disco etc. When I lost the Iranian Pisces, I certainly did mourn my connection to that part of… Read more »

Sassy
Sassy

Hey Saggi girl Where art thou? I didnt know you married an Iranian?

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Yes, met at 18, married at 19. Later found it humorous that being born in Kansas would marry someone from so far away. Guess geography doesn’t matter to fate. Fate will find ya.

Sassy
Sassy

Very similar. Met my Colombian at 18 married at 19 had baby at 20…Fate certainly will find you, even if it doesnt last 😉

Sassy
Sassy

Thought maybe you had some saggi in you sweetie? I know its probably a bit biased or whateve but i just cant date aussie men, love anyone from a differnt culture to me.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

I’ve got Sagg on my Dsc. I’ve dated very few American men really.

Iranian, Afghani, Lebanese….What the hell’s with the middle East?

Oh I get it now. Spozed to represent an independent women to stretch parameters…

So much so I’m not with any of them! x

prowlncat
prowlncat

Anyhoo … so Theodora is great and all …

but what about Sam Rockwell in Iron Man??? Like first The Green Mile, then Moon now IR … geez that guy is just flippin my damn organic, milk fed, freakin tofu-injected burger!!! I believe he’s a Saggo? Cool. Toros OUT. Saggos IN.

prowlncat
prowlncat

AND Robert *Aries* Downey Jr who now I may officially cohert in my shag dreams ….

oh c’mon ya gotta laff

prowlncat
prowlncat

cohort co-opt co-freakinsumtin

hummingbird
hummingbird

No laughing here – Totally agree…on both counts -Sam and Robert! Sexy as and amazingly versatile actors. (Ps and loved Sam doing his little sexy dance in Charlie’s Angels to all-time sexy song “Got to Give It Up” by Marvin Gaye)

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Asteroid Theodora is BANG ON my Capricorn Sun – only 1 degree in it!
You know, I too have risen from nothing to rule, my erotic performances frequently titillate and more often scandalise, I have saved a thrown (OK, a community organisation), and incredibly… I am also AMAZING.

I’m adding her to the swag of girl-power asteroids I have significant conjunctions with. Yikes, I’m scarier than Scary Spice.

Meanwhile, Asteroid Theodora is EXACT conjunct my Gemini Midheaven today… Hmmm.. What should I do? Strip in the boardroom? I’m wearing very fancy undies today.

Plum
Plum

Hahaha. So did you? I’ve got Theodora on my moon in Cap, also lengthening a list of ‘strong female’ stuff going on. Strong is good, but I do hope I’m not TOO scary…

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Hehe.
NO I did not, but I did get weirdly hit on by a work colleague… Yikes.
No such thing as too scary Plum. Cap Moon deserves someone(s) up for a challenge. x

stella
stella

I’m reading about her too. Great read and she’s an amazingly modern gal from all accounts.

That’s so cool that she’s an asteroid as well. Theodora falls in my 4th house and opposite my Sat/Jupiter 10th house conjunction. A great mantra for my sometimes murky family life.

Fi
Fi

So now I find i can add Theodora to the Eros-Psyche conjuction and Venus-Neptune conjunction bang on ascendant all going on in my Scorpio 12th house…

Am at the very end of the limits of the optimism and hope one might expect from natal Saggo Sun tightly conjunct Pandora in 1st, so please, madame universe, make Theodora’s life force and eventual faith/wealth re-manifest in MY life during this Venus-Mars in Scorp transit….

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Theodora is in Libra opposite my Mercury and Sappho by one degree. Not sure how the sexy part (unless one talks sexy?) fits into that but do like the “rising from the murky lower depths”. Not much into sexy for awhile now as lived the “Diana” #78 asteriod conjunct my Mercury (Diana of the “hunt”…she was hunted also tho and I too have felt that way in a particular relationship) but alas Hercules #5143 is conjunct SN so guess I beat the crap outta someone and cleared some crap of my own (Hercules cleared the stables). Guess I’d have to… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Think I get it now. Theodora opposite Mercury and Sappho can mean to express in the written about concerns of sexual issues like being manipulated for sex. That has been a theme in my life. Not abuse but just a theme I’ve had to recognize and setting boundries for self preservation.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I love Theodora !! and may need her wisdom… so it’s power through exotic dancing, right? Got to work on that…

She’s there in my 5th house with Pluto about to go conjunct (must check the exact date…) What on earth could that mean, Pluto conjunct Theodora in 5th house??? It’s a house that’s, obviously, been totally churned up by Pluto. Can Theodora be helpful? I think I need all help available.

Bluesky
Bluesky

I seemed to have lost my moniker of Bluesky. Is this a new registration process?

Fi
Fi

If Pluto transit means destruction and rebirth, the dropping of attempts to control others and the gaining of self-mastery, and if Theodora instensifies the theme of powerful life force arising undefeated to greater heights from the muck, and if 5th is about one’s creations/romances as an affirming mirror to the ego, then at least you can be assured that you will rise from whatever ego/heart chakra/child-related disappointments that arise early in the destruction phase of the Pluto transit, as an even more powerful, purified force of creation and self-expression that manifests in ways you might never have dreamed of before,… Read more »

shell
shell

great interp Dr Fi, I’ll take that one.
I’ve also got her at 2ish Cap, in late 5th.

Fi
Fi

reckon you nailed your own chart/Theodora, not to mention the charts/solution to the problems of most people in this blog-universe already, hon!

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

good grief Fi, will you read my chart? 🙂

fluidfeline
fluidfeline

Can I be after Sweetpea please Fi. Nice interp!

Fi
Fi

oops – reply from me that looks like it was to shell, above, was meant for you, sweatpea (but hi to you too shell – from recent posts sounds like you are actualising the phd all over the place, so you go grrrl)

Bluesky
Bluesky

Wow! Thank you for that fantastic interpretation. (I bow, blow kiss). Love it. You are really quite good at this, you know.

Oh the self mastery…. So elusive.

prowlncat
prowlncat

I think I’m starting to believe in separtism … you know like Wonder Woman Island or even more preferable – that disappearing island in the Mists of Avalon.

prowlncat
prowlncat

eewps Theodora in 1st house Gem opposing Neptune in Sag and conjunct Venus

Sassy
Sassy

Mine too, first house 11 degree Gem opposing my Uranus….. Need to be more Gemmy. please teach me prowln 😉 slow ass toro rising

prowlncat
prowlncat

just babble on a lot (it doesn’t actually need to make sense); read the first and last paras of a book then prattle convincingly like you’ve read the entire thing; have multiple interests, lovers, personalities; have rapid seemingly incomprehensible changes of mind, like … last week it was Coopers, this week it’s Beck’s .. stuff like that

I would warn you tho’ that your Toro Asc will find it all terribly tiresome after awhile! 😉

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Oh I cried and cried to the “Mists of Avalon” book. So longed to part the mists and find out where the rest of me was!

prowlncat
prowlncat

I just wanted to stab Guinevere in the head quite frankly

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Oh I was just lost in the mists altogether. Must be my Pisces stuff hehe

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

I got cranky in the first couple of chapters – never finished them…

prowlncat
prowlncat

yeh the sexist religionist wank got on my nerves too, but I persevered for the sake of Morgaine. The book was actually amazing since it told the story of a druidic celtic priestess fighting against the oppressive Christian patriarchal regime of the time. It’s infuriating to know that eventually the fuqers took over, but guess what? The genetics pulled through and eventually women’s rights have been addressed – even if tokenistically. BUT enough for us to get a sense of our own power, and perhaps a bit of “kindy practice” before we unfurl our power and our wisdom – this… Read more »

prowlncat
prowlncat

actually I should put it in histocultural words: the book was a wonderful allegory of how Christianity and the whole Crusade movement sought to wipe out all indigenous spiritual beliefs and practices for the purposes of power and control over land, property and prestige in Europe between the 10th – 13th centuries.

The Celt’s monument Stonehenge still stands tho and has anyone noticed that crop circles look a lot like overview plans of the sites they are created on??

Ms.
Ms.

morgaine or morgan le faye is actually the Morrigan of Ireland of the Tuatha Dé Danann.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatha_Dé_Danann

The Empress
The Empress

She’s been getting on my tits. I’m reading it at the moment – middle of the last section now. Have loved every juicy morsel of it – besides Guiny of course. Also recently read The Lost Lands by Lucy Cavendish which has a section on Avalon. Always read several books at the same time.

KP
KP

It’s in my 3rd house in Sag… sexy communication skills? I think I’m still in the murky depths.

L Cat
L Cat

Theodora shimmering away in 9th house in Scorpio, conjunct my Neptune. Gracious interp anyone??

ArienScorp
ArienScorp

Theodora is in Taurus in my 6th house. I have risen from the depths of undecipherable health issues to shining healthfulness. Healthy is sexy. I like the idea of undefeated and powerful, because I want to be beautiful forever. Like even when I’m 80. I’m working on how to do that. Not that I’m anywhere close to 80, but I believe in planning ahead. So far my research shows not eating very much after 60 is the best way to retain beauty in old age. Whew! I get to eat for awhile yet. I’m not sure how the Taurus part… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

That is cute and hilarious A.S! It’s said that Fred Astaire only ate one hard boiled egg a day as he got like around 80 or something. He kept very trim and perhaps shimmied/danced his way to the grave?…

ArienScorp
ArienScorp

One egg a day? I believe it. It’s amazing how little food the long and active live-ers eat. I love Fred Astaire movies. Maybe I’ll watch one if I can’t sleep tonight. Glad you brought him up, Sweetpea!

Baristagem
Baristagem

Holy moley…. 😯

Theodora is at 24 degrees Pisces in the 1st house & right next to Pisces rising at 23 degrees…. Whoa! It is now travelling across my 3rd house where my Sun, Moon & Venus all live in Gemini…. 😯

Baristagem
Baristagem

I meant conjunct pisces rising at 23 degrees….

Steph
Steph

My Pisces Theodora conjuncts my Asc in the 1st house too, at 27/25 degress though.

Baristagem
Baristagem

*waves at venus a-go-go*

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

So how do you think Thedora in Pisces work? We have power through whimsy?
Please let it not be that.

Baristagem
Baristagem

You have her in the 5th?

Well that makes your 5th house (omg!) which is the house of pleasure & creativity even more sexed up! 😯

You should be totally tuning in to working that Theodora venus a-go-go…. 😯

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

So maybe its that when I am being pleasurabl creative then I get powerful and sexy.

I like the concept (not sure it is true)… it sure as hell beats the arse off whimsy!

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

*pleasurably I am never really sure how to ‘tune into’ the sexed up stuff… I mean, Venus is my calling card, but my relationships are few. It’s like men are either terrified of me or want to keep me in a gilded love cage. And 99 percent of the time I don’t think they are interesting. And if I do find them interesting, they think I am waaaaaay too intense and tell me to go away, then miss me and want me back, then go away and only have me around on _their_ terms, which I have recently come to… Read more »

Baristagem
Baristagem

Sounds like you need to take control of your Venus & do not let anyone else in the driver’s seat venus a-go-go.. no matter what!

I have found that once you start moving to the tune of another you forget the beat of your own drum….. & BAM! You find yourself wondering what the hell went wrong… 😯

Oh & I love this quote from I don’t know, someone….

‘Start treating yourself right because it shows others how you expect to be treated.’
………………… or something like that …………………..

Baristagem
Baristagem

Oh Steph you know what this means….. we are amazing just like Theodora!

That is what it means doesn’t it? 😯

Lucy the Leo
Lucy the Leo

Wow. I am ashamed to say I have never heard of her. Sounds like an amazing read!