Sun Sign Survey: Vengeful Venom

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Yes, we all know that Scorpio is officially the most vengeful sign. And the actual real-life Scorpion stinging itself and anyone nearby in the bum just to make a point clearly doesn’t help either. Still, some of the most vengeful peeps i’ve heard of have actually been Leos…

Or, to be fair, the lower versions of ANY sign. I hate it. And I hate reading those stupid articles about people cutting up other peeps clothes or whatever and them being portrayed as cool. Web rants? Yick.

Living well is the only revenge, obviously, but please – stating your Sun Sign and any other relevant astrological info – let’s try to figure out which sign actually does have the most vengeful tendencies. I’d say Capricorns, Leos and Aquarians can be shockers…Cancerians and Scorps never forget and, well, dear Virgo can bring details of a misdemeanor up DECADES later. Not because they’re vengeful but because they keep tabs.

Pisces, Gemini & Libra are totally in the ‘living well’ camp and rather than scheming revenge, they’re more likely to get drunk and fantasize about the person who did them wrong being forced to watch them winning an Oscar/being canonised/frolicking in the Maldives with an A-List Beautiful Person fawning all over them.

But my vote for most all-time vengeful? Taurus. You know it. Thoughts?

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elderly lioness
elderly lioness

Salacious Sag , yes indeed he DOES have Cap rising.

FireTrine
FireTrine

I have been withholding… I have to confess, but it would take too long to explain the entire situation. Basically my business and home were one, ex and I built it together, he invited many girls to my home/business, one especially who decided to LIVE there against my request and weeks after a five year relationship had ended (well it turns out only weeks for me). I had no way to leave and had to witness all kinds of travesties. In the end, after Ex ended up sleazing onto another girl in a bar (there was only one or two… Read more »

FireTrine
FireTrine

And it is the only time this kind of thing has happened and it will NEVER happen again. Diamonds are only created under pressure!

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

5 guys to separate you huh. Wow, that’s definitely otherworldly strength!

FireTrine
FireTrine

Your situation was a bit similar, I am afraid my dignity was in tatters by then anyway.. Wish I had inherited some of my Scorp mum’s self-control!! Go licious scorbot!

elderly lioness
elderly lioness

I’m not vengeful at all – can’t be bothered. My other half who is a Sagg never forgets a wrong and can take revenge to ridiculous levels – i.e if a neighbour’s dog defecates outside our house, he will collect it and dump it in their letterbox anonymously. Or if the next door neighbour distracts him with noise (he has a very low distraction level) he will play CDs at full blast to pay them back.

Ms.
Ms.

I had a sagg like that once…
(for all those who think sagg is only chilled out)
mega scorpio merc fail.
cranky!
dumped an entire thing of garbage over a car who’s alarm kept going off. Fond of throwing things too.

Salacious Sagg
Salacious Sagg

Elderly Lioness, does he have some Cap in him and perhaps some Scorp? I know Saggs with Cap rising who behave like this.

Ms.
Ms.

sagg in question had cap rising

Odette-in-Libra
Odette-in-Libra

Libra sun, Scorp rising, Aries moon. I can hold a grudge like nobody’s business – for years, with fierceness – but I’m very quick to forgive if given the least reason to. Anger & resentment take so much energy & are a slow poison in your system – I’d rather use my time being happy.

Kayla
Kayla

Agreed about Geminis – I am a Gemini and tend to get really angry when someone wrongs me, so will go and rant about what I’d like to do to them and fantasise about telling them what I think of them/showing them up at a school reunion etc….but never would actually act on it!

My Dad is a Leo however and will dedicate the remainder of his life and money to bringing down the person who has wronged him. He will ruin their life even if it means ruining his own – hmmm, crazy and stubborn.

ScorpioBeth
ScorpioBeth

I’m actually fairly forgiving when it comes to big wrongdoings, but when people out-perform me in any way, I make sure that I beat them in every possible arena- which I guess is my leo rising coming out.

lib rising ramzilla
lib rising ramzilla

p.s. agree, toro holds a grudge (they never let go) but would distinguish from revenge per se. they’re too lazy for that!

lib rising ramzilla
lib rising ramzilla

Moi le ramzilla will strike almost instantly in defense but it’s gone in moments. i often get the shits at myself when i realise i should have held a grudge! revenge fantasies v rare. i’ve only ever had them about 2 peeps (a very annoying and completely inconsequential neighbour is one, funnily enough). but fuck, my ma, le scorp. prawns in hubcaps, burn yer house down kinda revenge woman. i was once treated real bad by a saggo player in my early 20s. scorp mum came to help me move out of his house and dead set, MADE, me, like… Read more »

lib rising ramzilla
lib rising ramzilla

Scorpy ma – sun, merc, venus & saturn in scorp, all in the 8th!

astrid
astrid

I have a venomous sag ex. Who is sadly the father of my children. So bad is he, that a psychologist advised not to engage with him ever as every time I have tried to make peace he has done something dispicable in return. Also come to think of it had a flat-mate female sag who cut up my fave jeans and then denied it! Hmm.

Other than that Aries ex who held a grudge with many, tho not me thankfully.

wishywashy
wishywashy

Kataka rising, Pisces sun, Gem moon, and it does NOT register at all that I should even be vengeful, or even angry. Drives my more assertive friends crazy. If I react, it’s often articulated, analyzed, justified, and handed back to you on a platter of angry, but it’s not exactly revenge. It’s “Know What You Have Just Done.” SuperScorp roomie scares me with her ability to internalize _everything_, from intense joy to pain to anger. I do not doubt once that she can hold grudges and exact vengeance with greater precision than I can fathom. My cappy mother could hold… Read more »

Savannah
Savannah

Aqua sun. Revenge in living well is the only way it’s much more satisfying & easy on the senses. In days of yore I tried revenge and it backfired many times. I find it just doesn’t sit well & you become part of the problem. My Kataka moon makes sure I don’t forget though.

A friend of mine used to say, “just sit back & wait, they’ll always get theirs”.

Seabird
Seabird

Wow, you are all so gentle and nice! Now, so I am. But only because i learnt the hard way that being vengeful doesn’t work. But geeze, sometimes it’s fun! Masso, after a terrible argument with my ex-husband, I cut up his favourite t-shirt and left it where he would find it. An ex-boyfriend who had a girl in another country invited me out to dinner , hoping I think to get back with me so he could have a girl in every port – I gladly accepted so that I could order everything most expensive on the menu while… Read more »

FireTrine
FireTrine

That’s intense! How did he react? Did it work the way you anticipated?

fallen angel
fallen angel

So… I reckon no one will hold it against me if I send this cake along to Le Sewer??? But no, I wouldn’t anyway. It means giving him/it/they/whatever attention and like many here Indifference is truly the sharpest knife. However, I will say that I have been known to “urge” events with Karmic undertones along…like maybe booking my subversively somewhat racist Sagg Boss with a Nubian Masseuse. When he was clearly trying to get me someone he felt was hot and young on his terms i.e. non-ethnic, and not even because they were any good at massage. It’s giving little… Read more »

Louise
Louise

Taurus for sure, no doubt about it!

Fire and Ice
Fire and Ice

Cap Sun, Sagg Rising, Taurus moon. Find it difficult feeling vengeful over a relationship issue. Hurt yes, vengeful no. And if I do have a vengeful thought, it doesn’t take long for me to feel guilty about it.

Masso
Masso

I have cut the crotch out of each one of my (ex)boyfriends best pants over the years, I am a Leo.

MsNoir
MsNoir

Hmmm, that’s sweet. :>
P.S. Was there some symbolism to that?

LemonfreshLeo
LemonfreshLeo

I’m Leo with Cap moon and rising. I’m supposedly one scary bitch when I get angry. I believe Karma could do more damage to someone than I possibly could. Also more creative.
My vote is for Cancers, I’ve run across a few that would destroy your life for looking at them in a way they didn’t like.

Salacious Sagg
Salacious Sagg

Hang on Sweetpea…..you ran the guy over???? or ran over his fav plant….I have either missed a thread somewhere or it is my lack of cofee…work boredom duh ness…

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Ha,ha…

I ran over his beloved cactus….(California you see and Leo Mars Moon very much into it’s phallic shape reachin’ for the Moon…Okay, he never said his wingus was actually vying for the Moon heights..)

But I got my instant karma on that one as a neighbor saw me and pulled out their cell. I dropped the cactus and drove for my life…Thus running it over….I think..

πŸ™‚

Baristagem
Baristagem

πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

Salacious Sagg
Salacious Sagg

Ha ha ha …hilarious xxxx This reminds me of my pal who closed her boot and drove off, and wondered at all the noise as she drove along. She then realised she had uprooted a prized tree specimen( after loads rain here) that had the cremated remains of various personages sprinkled around! She drove back and quickly plonked the tree back in the gaping soggy hole in the ground and screeched out of the convent!! : >

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

LOL…

Oh my goodness…took me a moment to realize what a boot was! I was imagining a literal boot stuck in the door and dangling on the road…hehe

But yes, my intentions were pure. I simpy wanted to steal the cactus and then pull each beloved thorn out and press them into his lovely brown eyes…

One by one. I’m very thorough and can count…At least to ten…

Oh, that hurts? (only been 8)

I beg your pardon…

πŸ™‚

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Was supposed to be ~only been eight~!

But like the emo face too…x

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

somehow the sunglasses cool demeanour fits the crime of sticking thorns into his eyes. Ouch! πŸ˜†

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

I don’t believe in being vengeful, ever, but, the one vengeful thing I did do was run over the Pisces cacti and I have alchohol to blame for that. Cappy Moon never would have done it in my right mind, usually, it’s just beneath one to carry on so.

Don’t believe in vengefulness because people screw themselves in the end and I prefer to not be a part of that karmic pack.

Like daveyl, pity the poor bastard.

FireTrine
FireTrine

Catcus killer! lol

missLibraLibra
missLibraLibra

Libra sun and moon, sag venus. Below comment is so so so accurate!!!

…ex lover opens gossip mag to see me looking fabulous on the arm of jake gyllenhal at the oscars then looks over to his current, frumpy, unattractive partner and sighs…

my revenge fantasies are all about me being amazing and unattainable while they spend the rest of their lives sulking and regretting how badly they treated me.

“get drunk and fantasize about the person who did them wrong being forced to watch them winning an Oscar/being canonised/frolicking in the Maldives with an A-List Beautiful Person fawning all over them.”

Leogroover
Leogroover

Not vengeful myself. But I know aTaurean gal who at her farewell party speech ( she was going OS for 4 years) told everybody that her boyfriend and bestie at the time ( hwo were persent) had slept together. Ha Suk on that. Love it but couldn’t do it myself.

I have thought about burning an ex’s house down ( it was a queenslander – poof! gone) but I didn’t of course. Being venus in cancer I never forget never forgive but def let go of the hurt so I can move on to my next victim ha!

another bloody aries
another bloody aries

aries, w aries rising and moon conjunct uranus in scorp i concoct elaborate revenge fantasies but really, i couldn’t be stuffed wasting the energy or drawing that kind of karma i think it was oscar wilde who said “success is the best form of revenge”? having said that, once upon a time i DID get a job in the same branch as my capricorn ex where everyone else knew what a tosser he was (i saw it more as a career move than revenge!) he left town and the anti-farewell had more attendees than the official farewell and i had… Read more »

Sassy
Sassy

Oh a cap would have hated that…!! Career and all

another bloody aries
another bloody aries

thanks sassy! hadn’t thought about that aspect i did even better than i thought πŸ™‚

for anyone who’s interested, wendy harmer (a libby fleur) wrote a fab book called “love gone wrong” after a nasty breakup i found it quite inspiring (back then)

davidl
davidl

I generally take revenge by feeling really sorry for the poor bastard …that his or her parents were too closely related and spawned a defective loser…imagine being an ahole every day of your life !, sad really.

Baristagem
Baristagem

Revenge?

Geez can’t really comment on this! The internet is really slow in the Maldives at the moment…

Gem/Pisces rising πŸ˜€

Sassy
Sassy

Oh yeah, good one gem!! Must take a note out of your book!! πŸ˜‰

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

Brilliant……lol

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

And here I thought you were really in the Maldives for a second… πŸ˜•

πŸ˜† good one

MsNoir
MsNoir

I believe each sign has its own brand of revenge/ vengefulness… Virgos lack magnanimity, in my opinion, and that alone makes them incapable of forgiving. Perpetual lack of forgiveness, especially from someone intimate is hell on earth… Scorpios are vengeful, no doubt, but their vindictiveness has to do with their paranoid sense of being wronged… Taurus can hold a grudge FOREVER, and that’s a pretty long time…I don’t know if they act out on it in a dramatic fashion, though…It is more like Chinese torture- a dogged wearing down of the opponent’s defenses…. Leos (and I’m one of them;) )… Read more »

scorpiontailedtongue
scorpiontailedtongue

Good point MsNoir I tend to agree with you. Virgos can act self-righteous an haughty, better-than-thou- even though they know they aren’t. Scorpios can stalk and sulk in utter paranoid delusions.
Taurans hold silent, quiet grudges.
Leos can go for character assassination, because they tend to be social and love the limelight so go for their opponents social persona or social standing.

Salacious Sagg
Salacious Sagg

Sagg Sun, Scorp rising, Venus in Scorp, Moon in Gemini. I never ever hold grudges, I get cross, deal with it and then move on. However, when my trust is betrayed I feel like my wings have been clipped viciously. Like FireTrine I forget to hold grudges. The Sagg in me makes me forgive and forget quickly. However…..maybe it is the Scorp in me that makes me imagine of ways really horrible people could die! πŸ™‚ I imagine, ” gee it would be nice if they would just drop dead and remove their nuisance self etc!” I imagined this about… Read more »

Sassy
Sassy

Yes so right!! A few cap risings i have known, are like little psychologists, they work out where your weak points are and just bloody let it rip!!
Yeah caps are a bit scary that way!!

Odette-in-Libra
Odette-in-Libra

Sal Sagg, that’s terrifying. I can’t believe he actually went through marrying someone to dump them. That’s a level of meanness I don’t understand (Unless her breakup with him was extremely, intentionally cruel. But then, wouldn’t he just be glad to be rid of her? Brrr, it’s cold out there.)

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

maybe it’s my Cap rising or natal Mars opposite Saturn (Saturn won’t let me do anything silly) but I think physical revenge is tacky and I wouldn’t want to give anyone the satisfaction that I cared that much, even though it may be killing me on the inside. I prefer to hurt them with indifference. An ex once tried to get me jealous by kissing some skank right in front of me. My blood started to boil and I thought about grabbing a jug of water and throwing it at them but I just walked away with my dignity intact… Read more »

B.
B.

I’m a Cap sun and Sagg rising. I totally agree with the indifference thing. It’s more painful to let someone know that they’ve gotten to me, than to actually rip them apart. In my experience, a bit of aloofness will really break someone down.
And that’s only the people that reallllly get to me. Most of the time, I just don’t really care enough. I simply cut them out of my life and never look back. Snip, snip.

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

I reckon Caps are the sign who just CUT YOU OFF absolutely. No confrontation, no revenge, no discussion, no option for redemption – just bam, gone, fuq off, move on. So I’m totally with you Robo on that one.
We not vengeful at all, but quite possibly unforgiving.

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

“bam, gone, fuq off, move on” Love it!! πŸ˜†

Unforgiving, yes. Who has time for fuckwits? The evil low Libran ex work colleague I cut out of my life actually said to me “i wished you had discussed that with me” Pffffffffffffffffft. What is there to discuss when you lose respect for someone and want nothing to do with them?!

Lexicon Limbo
Lexicon Limbo

Taurean here, soooo not into revenge. If I’m ‘wronged’ I withdraw myself & reassess the terms of my friendship with said person, adjust myself accordingly, if the friendship has come to the end of the road then i sever the chord & remove myself permanently. I accept that they were in my life for a reason, I thank them for that lesson, then I cut the chord & move on. Revenge is just a waste of intense energy & if I am that hung up then I am the one with the issues & I have to work on the… Read more »

Toro in Transit
Toro in Transit

that’s very good Lexlim, a very good description of typical toro reaction to being dissed, just re-write the story and adjust.

hadn’t realised i did that ’till you pointed it out!

gem
gem

I’m exactly the same as you two fellow Taureans. Exactly.

Sassy
Sassy

Agree, scorp I just cut people off too. Dont do the silent treatment, I need to talk it out, maybe yell it out also, Cannot stand sulking, used to be a great pouter (sun-venus cancer maybe) I would go with scorp, leos and librans. I am bloody surrounded by librans, always attracting them, and they hold grudges, dont forget and will not talk to you for ages if you did something they didnt like. Revenge, yes I have. I kissed a guy right in front of my husband to get him to leave me….god pass agg or what!! hahaha my… Read more »

beachgirl
beachgirl

Lex is right about Caps… we just turn to ice and walk away. Any brief anger turns into implaccable disgust and disdain.

Ms.
Ms.

I must admit I am no picnic should I be crossed but my issue is with boundaries and respect rather than pissy ex revenge. Sun/scorp/gemini rising/sagg moon. I am loyal and I love my friends so I expect a certain give take here. One way streeters can have the gutter back thanks. Cut- out -of -my- life! is also my card, and I don’t feel remotely guilty about calling a spade when boundaries are not respected. It’s not vindictive its self respect and who’s fault is it at the end of the day when you are constantly excusing someone else’s… Read more »

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

robot, I agree with just cutting you out with no warning whatsoever. I’ve always attibuted that to my Scorp rising & Virgo sun. When we cut, it’s surgeon-precision. There’s one person in my life who I’ve had all sorts of revenge fantasies about, and over the years they’ve surfaced in my Dreaming Life. Very satisfactorily too! Once I hacked her into bits & then fed the parts to some deserving sharks. Deserving coz they’d been hunting for food & hadn’t been lucky. I’ve never been in a position to carry out revenge in Waking Life anyway, and have counted on… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

a scalpel was exactly what i had in mind when i said “CUT” – surgeon-precision.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Hm. I am very saturn heavy. Aqua sun cancer moon. I am very vengeful, but NOT in the way most people think. To me, walking out with your head held high and forgetting about it is the revenge you can get on a person. (Probably all the practical Capricorn talking. I still need my revenge!) Even if you want to disembowel them with your fingers, acting cool, calm, and pretending you aren’t hurt even if you are. Also using wits instead of getting revenge in a physical manner is much more satisfying for me as I can still come out… Read more »

Charles
Charles

Do not mess with Taurus. It takes a log to get the peaceable Taurus angry at you, but The Bull never forgets, he will wait patiently, forever, waiting for his revenge. Just think about a bullfight. If the matador drops his guard for a moment, he ends up gored an trampled under the bull’s powerful hooves. And it will be his fault for angering and taunting the bull, and not taking the threat seriously.

Charles
Charles

oops, “..takes a long time…”

Taurean Love Expert
Taurean Love Expert

Charles, I don’t do the waiting for revenge stuff, but I do admit the ‘bullfight’ analogy is bang-on. Aries ex used to niggle, niggle, niggle and then was so *shocked* when my patience was exhausted & the steam began to come out of my nostrils!

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

hee hee… i’m the same except instead of “niggle, niggle, niggle” it’s poke, poke, poke. If you keep poking at a Scorp who’s hiding in her little cave, you will get stung!

Charles
Charles

Yeah, go look into the technical aspects of a bullfight. I saw one in Mexico City when I was a little kid, I’ll never forget it. They start with the Picadors, riding on armored horses, they have long spears to stab the bull right behind the shoulders, just at the spot where it hurts the most, but does the least physical damage. Then the Banderilleros come out with decorated sticks about a meter long, with a big barb on the end. They stab these sticks, called banderillas, into the shoulders again, where they become attached to the bull. As the… Read more »

shell
shell

*sigh*

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

it’s too cruel. Bullfighting should be banned!!!

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

I effing HATE bullfights! It’s a misnomer anyway, it’s cruelty on purpose for the “entertainment” of so-called humans. Have always hated it since I was a wee gal & saw it on tv. My Spanish friends keep me updated on its demise even in Spain.

Charles
Charles

Well I can’t seem to reply under U&P Virgo’s comment, I guess it’s nested too deeply. But yeah, I agree, bullfighting is cruel and should be banned, it made me sick to watch it. I think it would be better if they only allow events like the running of the bulls in Pamplona, where the bulls always have the upper hand, and the unarmed, defenseless humans run away in terror, or get gored. Anyway, I only described the bullfight as a metaphor. You can taunt and injure the bull a LOT and he will take it, but watch out because… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

i know, i know i saw something on telly recently and it broke my heart πŸ™

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

oh it’s cool Charles, we knew it was a metaphor and not implying that you condone the horrid activity in anyway.

scorpiontailedtongue
scorpiontailedtongue

yes, never poke a quiet Scorpio!

Toro in Transit
Toro in Transit

i’m mostly a very forgiving toro if repentance is forthcoming! if it is not, then i just patiently wait and enjoy with much schadenfreude the inevitable come-up-ance! it is not necessary to take any action to bring this about mostly, we are not that sort of vengeful people, just calmly certain we will be proved right in the end and sinners will repent and seek forgiveness, LOL! though it has to be said that on occasion giving the process a bit of a nudge in the right direction if the opportunity presents is not altogether to be sneezed at! hahahahahahahhaha… Read more »

Toro in Transit
Toro in Transit

PS: the late, rapidly unlamented HMBOTS will surely come to repent the error of his ways, yes don’t mess with the Bull!

bullwithstingintail
bullwithstingintail

The living well strategy is the only real path.

Have cut off limbs to preserve the tree in the worst cases.

My votes for vengeance is mine peeps,

1. Cap
2.Gem

ferngirl
ferngirl

Oh Taurus can hold a grudge, thats for sure, but mostly its just vengeful on themselves in the end, no?

sagsunpiscasctaumoon
sagsunpiscasctaumoon

ha! so true ferngirl!

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

Lib sun / Fish moon – fantasized revenge ONLY!! a normally placeid Cancer I know did a beauty. having split from his then wife, but still same house / separate rooms while the financial bits were sorted- SHE (a top prosecutor / glamour puss) pushed her luck too far by partying with new bf arriving home high on many pingers & other stuff. HE took all of her clothers – poured olive on them & threw them in the street. but wait there’s more…… then broke 1 heel off EVERY pair of shoes!! he’s a super nice guy now happily… Read more »

Meowmix
Meowmix

I cheered for him while reading this… is that wrong? πŸ˜‰

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

NO!!
if yr gonna do it once in yr life – do it right.
AND to one who won’t learn any other way…..
his wife now is an angel. just as he deserves!!

Salacious Sagg
Salacious Sagg

RLP what sign was his ex wife and what is his current wife….just out of curiosity.

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

Salacious – dunno. wife 2 is fashion designer of note, w no personal deets on web / FB….. wife 1 sat nxt to me at an eatery recently. we duly ignored each other. she still acts like she gets her gear off to get places. glamourous in that try way too hard way. thank god I was dining with gen Y architect on the rise, who’s also drummer in indy rock band. made up for how old I felt next to her……cat or not she turns heads!!

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

actually – flash nostalgia!!
I HATE wife 1 cos she dissed my Ex Ex the Gem Surfing Barrister in public. Never bad word’s uttered of him, but she did it. when I told him he laughed & said ‘well you should see her in court. unbuttons another button leaning into the jury. word is if she pleasured herself she’d scratch herself’ reffing claws……… no wonder I called her a cat!!

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

In my experience, no one holds a grudge like Taurus, but do they really find the motivation to enact revenge? They just quietly remind you that deep down they sorta hate you forever. Bless ’em.
Sagittarius I find does the quick-turn-around of juvenile bitchy come back, but if not instantly enacted, fancifully forgotten, so bye bye revenge scenario.

A dear friend, Cancer with Taurus Rising, recently enacted a revenge scenario before my eyes, and when I shook my head, replied with this fabulous pearl…
“karma takes too long…”

Ms.
Ms.

oh yes.

ex Toro, cap rising ,scorp moon is king of grudges.

Leogroover
Leogroover

Love that – karma takes too long. FOFLOL. Thats so true coz the good or bad deeds you perform in this life won’t return to bite you or feed till your next life- so yep do it NOW! Only joking I think revenge is juvenile but love a good revenge story.

My ex taraus is very mcuh “i hate you forever quiet type – but we are better parents apart than being together. and as lovers – we were hopeless.

aquaphobe
aquaphobe

β€œkarma takes too long…”

that’s excellent…it should be a bruce willis line right after he blows up the baddies…

upbeat scorp
upbeat scorp

I totally agree with Taurus for this one. One of my good friends actually prides herself on how long she holds her grudges, which is terrible really, she holds onto them so long that the other person has long forgotten whatever minor indescretion they have committed.. she leaves people puzzled as to why she won’t talk to them, and slightly hurt, and then finally they just get over her sulking, but the friendship is never the same. She was even proud of holding a grudge toward a two year old once!

JenGem: Saying number one sums it up perfectly!

gem
gem

I’m Taurus Sun with Scorp rise and I wouldn’t go with vengeful as a common descriptive word of me at all. Grudge holding, yeah well I’m getting better at letting them go more quickly (and I have had to actively work on being better at that) but as for extracting revenge, I don’t know that I have ever done it. Though to be honest I did immensely enjoy my ex boyfriend turning up to an exhibition opening I had last year looking scruffy and old, when I had hundreds of people there to see my work, a hot dress, fabulous… Read more »

FireTrine
FireTrine

Leo sun, but with Sagg Moon and Aries asc. I keep forgetting to hold grudges! There have been times I have been deeply hurt by someone I love but I don’t enjoy vengeful behaviour. Partly as I am too transparent to lie or connive successfully. The only violence I have witnessed against a partner was by a Scorpio friend who burned her boyfriend’s mobile and jeans. She also enticed another boyfriend to crack her ribs. He was very peaceful and I don’t know how she even managed to get him that cross, she was skilled I tell you. My Cancerian… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

“She also enticed another boyfriend to crack her ribs. He was very peaceful and I don’t know how she even managed to get him that cross, she was skilled I tell you.”

How do you entice someone to break your ribs?
Even if he was a altar boy he inflicted the violence. Ted Bundy was also a quiet, peaceful man according to his friends and girlfriend at the time he was murdering young co-eds.

FireTrine
FireTrine

I know, I know, but you had to know this woman… She really harassed her guys and got into them so she could re-live her dramas out with them. There were a lot of drugs and issues involved. She was an incredibly powerful woman both emotionally and physically. I would react to this statement too if I didn’t know her. This guy was not Ted Bundy, I actually think he was coerced into this situation by her, and in a sick way was trying to keep her by giving her what she wanted. She was so triumphant when he finally… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous

ok, makes more sense now- with the drug vibe etc going on.
Those relationships are so destructive. Some people have a combustible effect on each other.

FireTrine
FireTrine

She had a combustible effect upon everyone, but it was also what made her so awesome! If you are a regular contributor to the blog feel free to criticise openly as I will not be offended. πŸ™‚

Anonymous
Anonymous

Crazy vigilante shit! LOL!

I am a cancer moon. My ex was a cancer. It was really a terrible situation to be around. My paranoid virgo rising is still scared he will barge into my house with a shotgun one day. He was ready to wait at my driveway and shoot himself to “teach me” so eh.. nothing is too out oft eh question for his crazy ass.

JenGem
JenGem

1. Holding a grudge is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die.

2. Living well is the best revenge.

Two oldies but goldies.

LibrabutwithAriesontheRise
LibrabutwithAriesontheRise

I’m Libra sun with Venus in Scorp, and I have to say I have long and elaborate fantasies of revenge which I will go over in my head for decades, BUT only ever about romantic entanglements that have gone sour AND further, I NEVER act on them. I think the vengeful thoughts and difficulty in letting go is my Scorp venus, but it’s kept well under control by my Libran sun/moon/merc. I am working VERY HARD at present on curtailing the vengeful fantasies, and replacing them with reminders that I’m better off without her, better things are ahead, and of… Read more »

sagsunpiscasctaumoon
sagsunpiscasctaumoon

I’m with you, LibrabutwithAriesontheRise, I have Venus in Scorp… Most of my vengeful thoughts are realted to relationships (both romantic and friendly). I never act on them either… Sun in Sag = optimtistically thinking there is good in all people, they will get their just desserts and the universe will be balanced through Karma. Or if I channel my lower energy – I put my head in the sand until it’s blown over. Maybe that’s my Taurus moon? IDK. I have a Taurus friend (probably ex-friend) who can’t or won’t see the demise of our friendship. I had an Aqua… Read more »

Flick
Flick

OMG. Have just forwarded this to a former Taurean lover who dumped me 20 something years ago after learning of a tiny infidelity with a former boyfriend that I drunkenly confessed to one new year’s eve … and this was the guy who kept telling me for the whole year of our liaison I was his ‘filler’ as he waited for Miss-Pommy-Backpacker-Right to come back to him … He doesn’t tell me I’m dumped on the spot… I go back to my normal life and then a week or so later I get the most godawful, long, detailed cartoon that… Read more »

FireTrine
FireTrine

Yes Simon, that was very, VERY wrong. You know Flick did not deserve to be treated like that. (Disapproving wag of head in cyber space πŸ™‚ )

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

The bulls can hold a grudge like nobodies business – and I’ve known some who won’t tell me WHY I’m not being spoken too (really need to practice my omniscience)…. Aquas – well, they are exactly like Aquaphobe described – and my ma is one, so I’m well versed in their style…. Pisces barely register they SHOULD be feeling vengeful Scorps? Well, I can seeth, and I can react, I’ll even throw things…. and I can do low down dirty take that things….. But I suspect my Aries asc allows the fire to burn bright and hot, then it fades… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

Yes. You and I have very similar planets post mod. I know Scorpio gets a bad wrap and some people are that twisted but I know a lot of female Scorpios (sister, mother, birthday sister, cousin, half of melbourne) and I would say ‘confrontational’ as mars, like aries can get but not the out and out vengeful types. Don’t piss them off, you’ll know about it. The room will drop temperature and the sky rumbles. kidding. sort of. Living well is the best revenge as is not sinking to play into the lo vibe. Every sign has its own evil… Read more »

nat
nat

Similar planets as postmod here too but ruling diff things. Cancerian Sun, Scorp Rising, Aries Moon. Vengeful tendencies you ask? I usually strive to be in the Look After Your Own Sh*t camp &/or the Living Well camp. These days I am way better at practising acceptance, letting-go, holding-things-more-lightly etc etc. But in my mind, well, all sorts of seething, visualisation & over-analysis can go on!!! I often visualise sending certain peeps to the outer reaches of the galaxy in a rocket, but instead of enacting any of these wild ideas I usually write my thoughts out on paper, burn… Read more »

nat
nat

Similar *signs*, not planets… Astrology 101.

dotty
dotty

ditto with similar configuration, scorp sun kataka moon taurus rising (do i win some kind of unhygienic psyche trifecta πŸ˜‰ )
i dont understand the dual concepts of revenge vs letting go AT ALL, fester fester fester, so I end up hurting myself even more :-Β¬
oh also a helping of ruling planet in virgo conjunct pluto so details all filed away neatly with a cherrybomb on top. I so fear my own capacity for destruction and self-immolation i just HIDE

nat
nat

Admire your honest there dotty. Yep, festering ONLY hurts the festerer. And I’m sure you don’t have an “unhygienic psyche” with that trifecta – it sounds like a lovely creative combo to me.

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

Hah! I love a good fester period!! Makes lancing the boil so much more satifying! Lots of evil putrufying pus erupts, and then I’ve usually gotten it all out in one foul event…. lol. But usually all done in private – or in the ear of nearest and dearest! I do fear myself at times too Dotty, but years of VERY HARD WORK has made the letting go thing easier – so long as I really sit with the hurt, pain, anger etc…….

dotty
dotty

very very hard work – to know something and to be it, lightyears apart πŸ™

thank you both for such very kind words, little rays of light through the chinks in those shutters πŸ™‚

dotty
dotty

actually postmodscorp, that’s DIS -GHUST-ing !!! πŸ™‚ but strangely fascinating …

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

Well, its graphic – and it only happens if I have been REALLY hurt. I don’t do it for every little event…. sheesh, the energy drain would be nuts!

Jennifer
Jennifer

As a Taurean (and Scorp rising!), I never get revenge. Why, you ask? Because I have heavy Saturn stuff going on, plus Saturn in 10th, and if I put a foot wrong odds are I will get burned far more than whoever I tried to get revenge about will.

Besides, other than my evil relatives for whom karma will never reap anything, most people screw themselves over just fine without my help.

william
william

Taurus will drop you where you stand, like the sack of shite u r
everytime

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

i would agree with that, unless there was some sort of bacchus / sexual connection in which case they still love you ..somehow

Bullish Cassie
Bullish Cassie

Finally, my sun is showcased in an Astro-Query, and the subject is revenge?

This ain’t over.

dotty
dotty

Tee-hee!!! πŸ™‚

Lou
Lou

i have 6 planets in leo and am not revengeful at all and never have been.
Perhaps it is my pisces moon.

i think it is the lower part of any sign that can resort to this behaviour.

bluelibra
bluelibra

That first line is supposed to say ‘My Cappy DAD died….’ btw

bluelibra
bluelibra

My Cappy died (may he rip) was terrible grudge-holder and vengeful thinker – not only towards his exes (my mum included) but towards anyone that cheesed him off – even for a moment – then he would work out a way to make them pay! He was a tortured soul… Hmmm, let me think, I’ve been with a couple of Leos, an Aries, a Pisces, a Libran, two Gemini’s (shudder still..), a Scorp (looong ago) and the only one who was vengeful towards me was the Libra – in a very machiavellian way! I have since learnt to stand up… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

~But the choccy cake does look delicious on a number of levels Mystic.~

Yes, just give me a piece of the damn cake….

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Glad you got a good nites rest luv..x

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

My Leo ex would make up ways to make people pay. He’d do something horrific, out of context too, and I could tell by the light in his eye if it was a payback move or just him being a dick. Being a Leo, he tries to be gracious in social settings and generally succeeds. He enjoys making people suffer in whatever way he feels even things out.

aquaphobe
aquaphobe

are we talking rampage or slow seething multi year plan of revenge? so agree with gems living well… i dare say some of us aqua’s truly seethe…our lowest selves over analyse situations to death for years after. havent witnessed physical revenge…just excommunication for offenders or a verbal slur here and there. but our minds are full of stuff. Esp with emotional hurt. i think we’re like the astrological unabomber – mental shed in the woods full of nasty ‘one day i’ll show you’ plans. yes, the only sign i’ve seen actively destroy possessions was a scorp. bless her, she was… Read more »

bluelibra
bluelibra

Oh darling aquaphobe – can so relate to that scorp girls pain. I hope she is living happily now. (?)

aquaphobe
aquaphobe

much better now, but still get a glimmer of pain every once in a while…

its tough out there for those mending a shattered heart… esp.learning to trust again.as we all know.
if they could bottle a cure….

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

I agree with the unabomber notion…. So sums Aqua up!

twin gemini
twin gemini

I must confess I have a revenge streak. Ah especially at the moment. I do try not to act on it though. There is that saying….when seeking revenge dig 2 graves. But lordy it would feel good.

bluelibra
bluelibra

ooooh like that saying twin gem!

Fi
Fi

I’ve met a lot of Gemini’s and I agree with Liz Greene – they “plot” potential revenge in a paranoid way in case they are crossed like crazy – but in terms of serious revenge, they tend to get distracted by the next best thing before they actually carry it out, yes? Have Haute scorp ascendant (haute because there’s a softening 12th house Venus-Neptune conjunction right smack on it, thank god) and although I frequently, desperately WANT to bring those who have deliberately hurt/fuqd me down, life has taught me that if I just wait, patiently, for years if necessary,… Read more »

lib rising ramzilla
lib rising ramzilla

Fi, you make me think of the (hindu?) saying: Wait long by the river and the bodies of your enemies will float by (appropriated by one of my fave bands, the drones, as the title of a most fabbo album)

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

aahh The Drones – love ’em!!

aquasunscorprising
aquasunscorprising

i agree that aquarians can be vengeful, i am one…

in fact, with scorp rising and leo moon i got a lot of motivation in my early years from revenge, to prove peeps wrong, ‘i’ll show them!’ attitude… not so low or spiteful, but def using anger/revenge to stoke the motivation fires and succeed!

i had a taurean boss, absolute a’hole and extremely vengeful, so pretty certain we have to give top honours to the bulls on the one

Charley
Charley

I’m a terrible grudge holding, vengeful low Scorp it has to be said but my worst experiences have been with Capricorns! My Leo mother gives good sulk though, can always drag up wrong doings years later to use as fuel in a fight.

Sassy
Sassy

Totally Charley, well my mother has both! Leo sun, scorp moon!! Shit you dont mess with her…it is the power sulking, pouting, energy zapping, low psych stuff that she does!! Scary scary…

Sassy
Sassy

And just to add she is taurus rising, how funny..man i learnt from the best

Taurean Love Expert
Taurean Love Expert

Well, I am very Taurean, but am def of the ‘living well is the best revenge’ camp. I also find those spiteful revenge stories upsetting – I am embarrassed for the vengeful person. All my Katakan planets do ensure I ‘never forget’, and I have been known to secretly gloat over the petty misfortunes of those who have Done Me Wrong for much much longer than is good for me. But would I ever do or say anything to contribute to said misfortunes?… no, I would be mortified to show that I was even *thinking* about them. Maybe it’s my… Read more »

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