Eclipse Full Moon Emo Fracas

surreal woman full moonOkay so I have banged on about this in the Scopes & the Daily Mystic at length but, briefly, this is the sort of Full Moon Eclipse that would have had the ancients merrily bunging up their drawbridge & perhaps stationing a few extra guards around the place.

Retrograde Mars Rises, Saturn & Pluto are in square, Venus + Pluto and the Sun are opposed/eclipsed…the Full Moon is in the emo sign of Cancer & the whole thing tends toward muckraking, grudge flashpoints and definitely a poignant stirring of any unresolved feelings. Less poignant would be if you are in a relationship repressing a virtual tsunami of torrid unaddressed irks re security, shared $$$, sex and fertility…

Oh and Retro-Mars rising can inspire twits into lower level assertiveness.

The good? Oh well, high-Qi emotional breakthroughs & awareness, perspective of course. Still, I shall be cocooning, for the days around this Eclipse…It’s strong from right now…Keep a vast artists pad close at hand to scribble stream-of-consciousness findings and your major aha moments. Think especially in terms of freshly understanding your personal history, how/why things happened the way they did.

If you want to get really astro-fiend/cosmic about this, apart from the general catharthis it’s like a confrontation between the patriarchy and the feminine divine…Not only is it the Cancerian Full Moon (Artemis etc) opposing the Sun (Apollo) in the Saturnine sign of Capricorn, the chart for the Eclipse just oozes Saturn squares (reality check to the max, ready  or not) AND Mars opposes Lilith…

Stay serene, keep being gorgeous, enjoy your insights & see you on Jan 4…& THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN 2009…also, all you subscribers & peeps who got cosmic consults – thank you for helping to keep this site naff-advertising free!!! xx

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Sweetpea
Sweetpea

BTW, love the pear bottom pix….So pattable Mystic…x Reminds me of my precious Cancerian daughter….which is appropriate I guess for this eclipse!!

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whatever
whatever

hey happy NY Sweetness – wish you all the luck in the universe and maybe a few miracles too with the book writing xxxx

saggigal
saggigal

im so appreciating the saggi insights. Seriously! not being sarcastic. because as you all know, i have – well up until *NOW*- loved my saggi men, who could pretty much do no wrong. like i said, until now. they are completely giving me the shites, and i know i have to look at what they are mirroring ine me, blah blah, yes am doing that 🙂 But i have never really gotten how weird they can actually be about relationships. ive always enjoyed them, yakked away, travelled etc. but they are fuqing oddballs. and the forced cheerful glibness when they… Read more »

little fish
little fish

Hey Saggigal,
I have had same experience with sagg men,…so sexy and charismatic and handsome, but so odd.
Having trouble letting the most recent go but I KNOW I should. x

scorpylizzy
scorpylizzy

Well, I feel surrounded by saggies, and all of them are brooders. My eldest (aqua asc) and youngest (scorp rising) grownup sons, their dad (my Leo ex, 24 years of it I had) who had saggie rising (horrendous pass-agg broodfreak) and my partner (a tomboy anyway). The youngest doesn’t really do it anymore (btw just turned 18) but the others seep their heavy shite everywhere when unhappy. I’m a scorp with sagg rising, and i like to let everyone know what the problem is lol, but am anti-brood. I hate it. I like peeps to spill it so we can… Read more »

scorpylizzy
scorpylizzy
Sweetpea
Sweetpea

LOve this site. Thanks scorpylizzy, I put it in faves….xo

Ms
Ms

Spent pre eclipse day gem moon hanging + chats/ merde re lost time with Leo sun cancer mars/asc Father sorting out 8th House BS *ping*

Managed to save my stuff from burning to cinders re premonition fire dream bushfire -sad and spooky. Merc retro revise artworks and family 4th house stuffs going back to party on harbour with ex and new fiscal plan ala 2010.

Kataka boy OS email bang on pluto venus click.

leonine librarian
leonine librarian

So just your average day huh? Sheez Ms pack some stuff in. Congrats on seeing the message in your dream. Yes sad, yes spooky, yet you survived.Thankfully. Does your Dad have problems receiving gifts graciously? I say this because I’m wondering if there is some link between their emotional and sometimes physical absence and the free givingness in others. Aqua daughter again mentioned when she gave her Leo Sun dad a chrissie gift that instead of saying thankyou, he focussed on how much money he thought she had spent. She spent what she normally would feel comfortable in spending, and… Read more »

Scorpalicious robot
Scorpalicious robot

That’s the problem with gift giving – it’s not always free. Sometimes there’s strings attached. For instance, the Low Libran Spawn of the devil Pandora jewellery wearing woman I worked with who got me a “little present” when she returned from her holiday. She was clearly sucking up and I wanted nothing from her. She got me a ginger chocolate bar which went straight in the bin. The next day she asked if I liked it and I said “it was nice, thank you”. Well that wasn’t the response she wanted. “Nice?!!!… do you know the trouble I went to… Read more »

Ms
Ms

LOL lick her stupid sensible daggy shoes

Ms
Ms

Stuff rescued, farm ok… just. smoke damage but no trees no orchard. Other peeps not so lucky. Sad. I am grateful for the heads up. Oh I so get that! but my hilarious Leo father is fine with receiving yet totally obsessed with money/numbers. Got the senior citizen’s discount tour of new town complete with ‘posters of my face were here’ on retirement village promo. Had fab chats re 8th house crap. Cancer lunar 8th house could not be more apt though with inheritance angst, agro mars retro peeps on warpath and merc retro new info to light -mis communiq… Read more »

Sassy
Sassy

Hope you are ok Ms. Love and light sent your way xxx

Ms.
Ms.

thank you, we are fine its the town that needs the love now.

Thanks too LL. x

watery libran
watery libran

“Retro-Mars rising can inspire twits into lower level assertiveness” hmmm prophetic Mystic – I got dumped over the phone yesterday, now that’s what I call lower lever assertiveness 🙁

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

oh noooooo, that’s awful! Surely you don’t want to be with a low level twit like that. Still sucks though. Maybe it’s for the best – the eclipse in action, doing you a favour?.
Hope the new year brings you someone amazing!!

watery libran
watery libran

heee heee eclipse in action and effing Saturn in Libra – lessons abound eh? It ended up being over the phone cos he wouldn’t come over to see me after sending a ‘we need to talk’ text, and I declined his kind offer to meet in a coffee shop!!!!

Thanks Scorpalicious you made me smile. Twit indeed, I’m more inclined to exchange the ‘i” for an “a” 🙂

bubble
bubble

go baby firetrine ! its my birthday on 1 jan but according to astrodienst my natal birthday is 31st so the lunar eclipse is on ny natal birthday in my ninth house …. woo hoo ! thats all i can figure out as not up for the techno detailery. got an interesting email yesterday from a spiritual guy who says that while people are ok with giving maybe they are not so cool with receiving and that its ok to ask for a miracle. so for everyone who reads this – this is my gift to you all – find… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

bloody good idea Bubble. I’m exhausted from de-cluttering, cleaning and getting rid of the old to make way for the new. Ready for receiving now!! 🙂
Happy new year to you too!

shell
shell

learning to recieve helps you learn to give better too…

FireTrine
FireTrine

Thank you all!! I am getting excited about the baby coming too; almost looking forward to the ‘de-cluttering’. Actually baby’s turned fully up and down two or three times today and now I am truly exhausted – can’t work out what’s going on there… Yay MM, thanks for the good wishes!! And so good to hear that others have had success turning their babies at the last, it might be an ongoing thing till the birth it seems in this case. Thanks for the tips. Will find out about the Arnica prowln, funny story too! I did vaccinate No. 1… Read more »

FireTrine
FireTrine

Apart from my fire Sun, Asc, Moon – the rest of my chart is water – mainly Cancer… Boo hooing today over silly family issues with Cancer sis, bleurrgghhhh. Anyway, went to ante natal check up at the hospital to discover baby is full breech. Doc tut tutted and slapped him and I meditated while being hooked up to a heart thingy and asked baby to please turn. After half an hour the doc says come in, let’s do it and does an ultra-sound – “He’s turned!!!” he says excitedly. Well I asked him too, he poo poos this and… Read more »

leonine librarian
leonine librarian

Good work Firetrine. Sheez I feel for you in this humidity.

whatever
whatever

I’m so not into babies but I’m starting to feel excited for you and your impending birth Firetrine – doctors have to believe they’re omnipotent it’s part of the deal with their buying into the allopathic paradigm but you & the baby did that together don’t doubt it for a minute.

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

hehe, baby did what he was told – too cute! 🙂 Can’t wait to see what blog baby’s moon is.

starstrokes
starstrokes

Hi FireTrine, do you know that you don’t have an obligation legally, morally or otherwise to get your bubba vaccinated? I was blessed to have a bunch of well-informed friends & friends of friends clearly deliver the message ” Don’t vaccinate!” Check out homoepathy, if you haven’t already- safe, pain-free & as equally effective as the toxin-laden allopathic alternative. I have heard too many stories that would break your heart, all because the alternative information & facts are not currently advocated in the mainstream medical system….

prowlncat
prowlncat

haha! Excellent Fire Trine … just ignore doctors they are mostly ignorant and continue to treat pregnancy and birth as if it’s some sort of “disease” they must cure! My daughter turned when I asked her to as well … ok I took her to a live band with a thumping cool live double bass in amongst the breezy jazz. So there I was the size of a freakin barn, asking for my first pint of Guiness after no alcohol for 9 months and I felt this … well how do you describe it? Freaky shifting in the inner realms.… Read more »

prowlncat
prowlncat

ps. re what starstrokes said about vaccination. Use your own intuition and don’t be bullied NO MATTER WHAT.

And don’t forget to take Arnica prebirth …. a few drops three times a day from now on.

Ms.
Ms.

wow, thats great. slapping works ?

leonine librarian
leonine librarian

I’m off to the gym to punch things hard…and then punch them some more. I am also going to see what wit and wisdom my young PT may possess to help me understand a situation regarding Sagg daughter’s Sagg bf. We spend a fair amount of time together as a family. He’s for the most part a good natured, sweet kind hearted soul…until he experiences disappointment of any degree and he pouts…and he’s doing it more, and over sillier things…like at dinner last night Aqua daughter drops into convo a stupid situation that happened in the past…a year or so… Read more »

Tati
Tati

Irritating, cos you can’t throw him out without upsetting daughter. Didn’t know saggs brooded like that. Other chart influences? Perhaps best to suggest to daughter to downplay prev relationships … Sounds like he’s young & hasn’t got over the jealousy of anyone else who touched her ever. I remember that phase, it lasted about 20 years. Perhaps spike his smokes with something smokeable to help him *ahem* relax, dammit. Failing that, send him to Siberia with all the other men. Encourage daughter to get a new, all-consuming interest (playing soccer, organising local theatre group, running for student president, competitive macramè)… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

I would say check his Moon to understand what his emo needs are and what aspects the Moon makes, etc.

Check the Nodes as besides other things like past lives and future, is a maternal influence indicator, and the fourth and tenth houses for parental influences/childhood.

Is Saturn Retro as can signify issues with an absent father or a father who was there but simply not available.

He may have issues with a fear of abandonment or could be a case of a controlling personality which I would look for Pluto influences to his personal planets.

fallen angel
fallen angel

LL darling, punch away. I have a Sagg Boss, and every Monday morning he comes into work with a bad mood, it’s clockwork. That mood lifts roundabout Tuesday afternoon, unless something stupid like an office mishap occurs, then it dips back down. ANYTHING seems to affect his mood, having said that he was raised with only one brother, was the apple of everyone’s eye and cannot seem to get it that being happy IS A CHOICE. I know he likes the attention of being fretted over, of commiserating about his “lot” etc. You can’t talk them out of it. The… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Oh and incidentally, my other boss is a Leo and she is VERY good at supporting him though gets quite disturbed by his moods like you. With my Cancer sun, I just tutt tutt and start booking him for things.

He complains but he goes and does it. Then he thanks me after.

leonine librarian
leonine librarian

After my session at the gym on my way home with all those snazzy little endorphins kicking in I thought run…I have to encourage him to go for a run when he gets all broody…and or anything active….and yes it’s very much a default attention getting device…or at least I suspect it is. I strongly suspect a golden child past…and I do know his existence at the moment is all out of whack with parental marital strife and all that goes with that…so I think he’s missing that level of attention from his parents as they’re full emerged in their… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

You mean you have to CHALLENGE him to a run, yep, them Sagg men hate being told what to do, but you have to egg him on to it. Nothing worse than someone meant to be of Jove mooning about, I mean at least we can say us Cancers do moods with aplomb (or I think we do). I do tend to think that Sagg Men (soz Matty Minerva, no offense meant) are a bit more precious than Sagg women, part of it is an immense drive and a dual natured energy which needs to be intellectually AND physically channeled.… Read more »

leonine librarian
leonine librarian

I think the way I would advise him to run would be pretty challenging.

leonine librarian
leonine librarian

We talked charts early in the piece. He has a fair amount of interest in astro…and I remember there being plenty of Scorp in his chart (most people I find it easy to get on with have a certain amount of Scorp going on though…scorpiness is the common demonator between my daughter’s and I…cannot remember his moon though. Maybe cancer, maybe Scorp?

leonine librarian
leonine librarian

BTW that was in reference to both Tati and Sweetpea….and yes I think somewhere there is def a fear of abandonment….but I can also see where that leads to attracting what we most fear…’cos he is pushing it…

whatever
whatever

Scorps do sulk & brood up a storm LL maybe he has more of that than his saggi – he isn’t a cusper is he? Scorp sagg cusp is excruciating to be around when they’ve got the shits – they emanate whatever it is they’re brooding up until someone else (spot the uranian – and isn’t that where your lilith is?) says aaahhh fuq it let’s make some rain with that cloud and then suddenly the sagg kicks in and they’re miraculously able to communicate verbally again – can cut you down with a word let alone a sentence. No… Read more »

leonine librarian
leonine librarian

Ya know whatever this is going to sound ott leo, and arrogant, but …I think I have a grip of my Scorp moon…as in I can be around polite company whilst in the embrace of the dark side…which is where I think age/experience might well come into it.I’m pretty much ready to let lillith go uranian all over him. However I am trying to work out ways that I don’t mess with my daughter’s ability to negotiate her relationship…BUT and this is the big scary but, also not put up with someone coming into my home and polluting it with… Read more »

whatever
whatever

O god for a minute I thought you read my words as a critique of you – crikey I thought it was all on LOL For the record I have a stellium in scorp and my moons one of em. Sounds like a shape up or ship out moment is inevitable.

leonine librarian
leonine librarian

Nah…lol. If you wanted to have a go I’d manage ok anyways. I’m calming down a bit now…feel like I’ve workshopped it getting some ideas from you all. Thanks guys.

About time to take myself off for a goats milk bath. Some powdery goodness I got from the girls at Chrissie.

tati
tati

@ whatever “It’s bad form to seep in someone else’s home” LOL that made me laugh, and it’s so true, at the same time.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

“If you want to get really astro-fiend/cosmic about this, apart from the general catharthis it’s like a confrontation between the patriarchy and the feminine divine…”

Like I said, eclipse squares my Medusa/Sun/Point of Fortune/SN…..Reason why after the first, MUST focus on Her and why yes, the Sun ~can~ shine out her ass at this time in history..

Sweetpea
Sweetpea
Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap
Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap

MM Happy New Year and thank you for your wonderful site and its associated humour, counsel and brilliant aesthetics. You enrich my days! And please fellow bloggers, please accept my sincere thanks for all your generosity and wsidom. I am genuinely touched by your kind words. I read EVERYTHING and I have learnt so much. I have read our challenges but I think with knowledge of the planetary cycles we are armed well. Truly. No need to doubt the power of awareness. I am sincere when I say that I think this is a special community and please accept my… Read more »

whatever
whatever

ditto SSNSCMC LOL

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

best wishes to you too SSNSCMC. 🙂

aquaphobe
aquaphobe

ok, i’m taking a new tack….instead of happy new year i’m going with the “goodbye 2009” angle….purge purge purge…..

Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap
Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap

Yes, suitable for an eclipse….

tati
tati

Thanks Mystic & Happy New Year!!! Are Scorps slightly more immune due to being emo most of the time anyway? Am feeling pretty good actually. Am laying low and doing the finishing off unfinished projects, clearing out stuff etc etc. Getting a haircut tomorrow – is this safe? Will I emerge with a pink quiff? New hairdresser too. Will have to say to hairdresser: look into my eyes, do NOT cut much off. Else no TIP. lol. Beginning to wonder if Cap Boy is worth the trouble. No word from him. Just because he’s in another country with the rellies… Read more »

Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap
Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap

Tati, I’m sorry to hear about Cap Boy. What a bore! I think that’s rude that he hasn’t kept in touch. ‘Communication technology, hello! Fingers crossed for you for NYE.

Your prescriptive script for the hairdresser is hilaire!

olyalyalya
olyalyalya

My close friend has a similar dillema to you Tati. I hope it works out for you. It has been such a crazy year, and nothing is permanenet.

XX

Tati
Tati

Thanks guys … Being able to post here helps stop me messaging him – damn Scorpio obsessiveness. However also v stubborn & not contacting him. Suspect we are both scared of contacting the other, or am I being charitable? Dreamed about him dammit. As if it isn’t bad enough thinking all the time … My dreams should be filled with pliant satyrs and co-operative über-buffed types. Never are though. Now I can’t get back to sleep. Not helped by having a blood test in the morning so can’t eat or have coffee – I’m ravenous. Think I may devour the… Read more »

Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap
Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap

Go the breakfast tati, nurture yourself!

tati
tati

good advice, I did & felt much better, sated. Diary all sorted. House nearly purged of extraneous stuff. Things getting much more manageable. Went to the library & got loads of books on sex/relationships so after the next 2 days of frantic decluttering/party-preparing/partying I can have a proper Scorp slob-out on New Year’s Day and read all my books. 🙂

olyalyalya
olyalyalya

“Keep a vast artists pad close at hand to scribble stream-of-consciousness findings and your major aha moments”

AHA I’m going to spend my NYE with a bunch of artists on the water. Shall we draw then????

HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone!!!!

XX

olyalyalya
olyalyalya

****was going to

tati
tati

Blackstar – hugs.
sometimes it really helps to make the effort to put it into words – even if you delete it later or don’t post it … or write it longhand (some people say burn it later) ‘cos you surprise yourself with your own insights.
Good wishes & hugs to all. xxx

BlackstarAries
BlackstarAries

I am soo glad to hear you guys venting like this- it makes me feel better.

I am sympathising with you P-cat. I feel eeverything that you at feeling , but am to miserable to put it into words….

prowlncat
prowlncat

it will pass … I feel like Tigger from Winney the Pooh. Bounce Bounce Bounce. Well at least for today! 🙂

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Thanks whatever and shell for the well wishes over on the Saturnalia thread. Yes, need to tweak my time tables and energy outflow this coming year. I HAVE been reading ya’ll though and amusing as ever. ~Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap said~: I just saw the DVD of Revolutionary Road; an absolutely chilling film, brilliant script and Sam Mendes is great at conveying a sense of dread, menace within the oppression of suburbia… But the point is, I thought that the film was very Pluto-esque in that it could be seen as a possible manifestation of the consequences… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

p.s., been listening to “Fireflies” by Owl City…Such a fun and uplifting song!

“Everything is never as it seems”..

No shit….lol (had to throw a cuss in there for Auld Lang Zine….(er, Syne….)

🙂

prowlncat
prowlncat

well Sweetiepie … am I allowed to be a bigamist? I doubt an Aries and and Scorp would allow such things!

Happy New Year and hope 10 is a good ‘un for you! 🙂

White Musk
White Musk

Love and laughs for 2010 be open to change and growth, forgiveness for self and other perpetraitors [spelling deliberate], continued evolution no matter the cost and remember to breath as one leaps into the unknown and is awed by the amazing beauty of the universe and the privilege of experience and awareness.
Thank you all for your wisdom and insight and may it continue as it enriches us all. Thank you Mystic and Happy New Year one and all and don’t forget to raise a glass to Auld Lang Syne!

william
william

recapitualation of May with jupiter neptune conjunct
I mean do you have any idea what MAy was?
What is wrong with…. oh forget it, just forget it man, jesus…
jesus!

wgs
wgs

I am literally afraid to be alone with my Cancer Sun, Taurus rising, Pisces Moon husband during this full moon/eclipse. I think planetary configurations, both recent and upcoming, have made him become mentally and emotionally unhinged.

Does anyone have any advice for me ?

And when will things begin to settle down?

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

wgs,

I’m sorry to hear that esp. in light of the news lately and violence in the world. If you are truly afraid I would remove myself from his presence regardless of any astrology.

Good luck, SP

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

wgs, When married, I pushed and pushed my ex Cancerian Sun, Virgo Moon sign husband too far one day and he snapped and held a hammer up that he had been holding and threatened me. I was holding my toddler at the time and he did not hit nor did he ever, but any human being has their limits. I had to look at my participation in that and the provocation. The hammer was not premeditated but just that he had been working on the house in that instance. As an Aries, I had to look at my bitchieness and… Read more »

olyalyalya
olyalyalya

wow sweatpea, I’m a crab with Virgo moon, I do snap…especially I live only with Leo nanna. Not physically, but definately verbal diahoriah and slamming doors. I’m professional door slammer, need to be left alone when loosing it.

I think giving each other space is deffinately prt ofthe solution… and yeah admitting your contriution.

I hope new year brings you love and joy.

MWA’s

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

This eclipse is on the Chiro Doc I work with Sun @ 8 Cancer.

We were just talkin’ today. He said he’s “this far”…~replicates an inch with fingers~ from losin’ it….

He might have been kidding but perhaps not? He hates confrontation but then of course we know where that can lead one if pent up emo’s for too long.

Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap
Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap

Wgs, I’m with Sweetpea. You shouldn’t feel afraid. Protect yourself.

whatever
whatever

yup me too – if you think you’re in danger get out of the situation asap – the space may give the person room to think about what they may have done if you hadn’t. Violence isn’t just a physical thing the fact you feel scared is a kind of violence in itself. Can you go find somewhere else to be until you’ve worked it out? xxx

william
william

I guess I knew december would be intense
but really that Sag new moon and then solstice

I mean it’sjust so ridiculous over the top and I’m just pissed off

I can never get any warning decent enough off these sites

I mean its a major suck in my opinion sheeit

u haveno idea and udontknow what yor talking about not calling December
sheeit Thats just ridiculous insane… sago moon going off then solstice
whatre u thinkin? sheeit

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Wills,

Been nippin’ in the smog-nogg?

Smog-Nogg…you know, tainted/spiked/polluted L.A.~esk~ egg nogg my dairy workin’ relatives used to make…..

Gave my bro some “Jim Beam” bbq sauce. Going to his place this NY for drunkin’ barbie….(psyche! 🙂 )

whatever
whatever

Nice – that was a false alarm you slinking off all minxy – thought you were a candidate for the woman taken by the eclipse for a while there sweetie.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Well, will be gulped down by it for awhile but will lurk and giggle I’m sure. Just won’t have time to write/read as much as writing needs to go elsewhere and yes, sounds terribly lonely and will take every ounce of everything I’ve ever had minus all my bad habits which have been a huge distraction but which I’ve loved..

whatever
whatever

o yeah that’s what the kia kaha message was about bigW i figured you’d have an interesting time of it. Mines been low key – I forgo the extended family get together on the grounds of pagan beliefs and receive notes from my 2 agents on the ground. Family secrets emerged. Skeletons all fell out of the closet over lunch. Revelatory.

Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap
Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap

I just saw the DVD of Revolutionary Road; an absolutely chilling film, brilliant script and Sam Mendes is great at conveying a sense of dread, menace within the oppression of suburbia (as he did too in American Beauty). I find that Kate Winslet relies too much on technique and fails to inahbit her roles (I can see her “acting”) but Michael Shannon who played the “mentally ill” mathemetician (actually the soothsayer in the narrative) was excellent and I’ll be keeping a eye on his career. But the point is, I thought that the film was very Pluto-esque in that it… Read more »

libra tiger
libra tiger

Great review! I love Kate Winslet. I so wanted them to go to Paris.

Yes I agree you have to surrender to pluto’s urges sometimes or you will die anyway (or slowly wither away in an unlived life – which our society is keen to encourage as long as you consume/work with a smile.)

Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap
Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap

Yes, like the running line in Anton Chekhov’s play “The Three Sisters”: “When are we going to Moscow?”, that constant yearning for another place against a backdrop of selfishness, the inertia that comes from lack of awareness, preoccupation with the banal at the expense of the bigger picture.

whatever
whatever

I’m not familiar with The Three Sisters but your synopsis sounds like it could be seamlessly transferred to modern life.

Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap
Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap

I think Woody Allen’s work is Chekhov-esque. The closest contemporary seamless transfer, I think, of of Chekhov’s aesthetic and content. I mean Allen’s FILMS not his personal life!

saggigal
saggigal

I freaking loved that movie- very chilling, as you say- and it was the big wake up call I needed to see how I had internalized ideas of marriage ( yea me! Supposed feminist chick), and how my husband and I were falling into patterns that were old, older than us. It shook me up so much that I started being very real about when I felt like the Kate winsley character and when I felt like the Leonardo character. I could just see it played out, that dynamic, in everything. Needless to say, I avoided the tragedy by deciding… Read more »

whatever
whatever

WAAHHHHOOOOO Kudos to you for realising and acting – it freaks me out how so many people change into old people when they get married – they change the way they dress and kind of fade. It’s weird and I don’t get it. It’s like they merge and lose themselves and give up and a little part of them dies – a good part. No sir, I don’t like it. I haven’t seen the film but I’m going to now. It sounds thought provoking.

saggigal
saggigal

Yeah you should, it’s fab. Btw I didn’t mean old as in age, I meant old like outdated- like from the 50s! I realized I had both the freedom loving woman AND an internalized inner housewife fighting it out in my head. Freaky.

whatever
whatever

AAAAH I getcha – I did that right at the beginning it was pretty strange cos I am so not a housewife I got all obsessed with some weird domestic diversions – aqua came home one day and said ok who the hell are you and where’d you put the one I love cos this one’s a freak. And he was right it was some weird innate housewife thing. So that was the end of that. I went back to my old self. He did a weird thing too – he got all man of the house has to bring… Read more »

whatever
whatever

Saggi I’m reading a lot of feminist writing at the moment and your talk of the stereotype of the housewife is poignant. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being a housewife if that’s what you’re into and you’re doing it because you want to not because it’s expected or considered the norm but the fact women AND men fall into that stereotypical groove once wed or cohabiting – altho the wed seems to be the almighty clincher – does make me wonder if it’s nature not nurture. A primal response to finding a mate. Maybe it’s the accoutrement of… Read more »

whatever
whatever

O GOD I just realised that’s a minefield what I just wrote – I’m not saying that I think the primal impulse is to be a stereotypical 50s housewife just that nesting seems like a logical progression when considering the fact we are descended from animals and I’m pretty sure they mate for life – therefore it would make sense that domestic response.

saggigal
saggigal

hi whatever, i did a whole degree in the stuff! and i really thought i was above it. but i think we internalise roles without even realising, even if our mind tells us something else. i dont think its nature (v nurture) which i think in lots of ways is an outdated debate anyway, esp since theyve discovered so much about neuroplasticity etc, but i do think that despite the best efforts of feminist mothers, and for that matter feminist fathers, and good teachers, and excellent role models for equal partnership etc etc etc, there is still, in *some* people… Read more »

whatever
whatever

O soz if I’ve skated onto thin emo ice – I’ve seen a lot of divorce via my various parental role models & I know it’s hideous even if you were the one who chose it – you’ve got balls – so no harm was intended if I’ve said anything hurtful with my intellectual feminism training wheels on an all lol I’m a novice & I might be saying stupid things without knowing it. It does my head in the feminism – the intellectualising – cos I’m good at that the thinking but I don’t necessarily agree with the theories… Read more »

saggigal
saggigal

no offence whatsoever, whatever! xx

whatever
whatever

LOL inappropriate contrast warms the cockles of my heart. Hilarious. You’re the one I find in weird corners at parties, we exchange knowing looks and the talk don’t stop till sun up. I like the cut of your discourse pilgrim.

Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap
Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap

Aw shucks whatever!

prowlncat
prowlncat

Look sorry but FUQ LILITH … who the hell is she when she’s at home?? Just a freakin rock that’s wot. I’d happily have a biff with Lilith and Pallas and Eros and that one that brought gluten intolerance and all the rest of ’em …. they can all just EFF OFF cause I’ve got more than enuff to worry about. I’m still not on speaking terms with Pluto. Mercury my chart ruler has gone AWOL. Mars is being a gutless coward and I wanna kick his sad sorry little red arse from noon to sunshine. Saturn and I have… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

she says as everything was lain to waste around her… hahahaha

prowlncat
prowlncat

*sniffs* quite

prowlncat
prowlncat

but I have an EXCELLENT Yoville apartment. :mrgreen:

fallen angel
fallen angel

Sweetie you sure you not on speaking terms with Pluto? Coz I think you blew him back into Hell, haha…he may hire you to do his PR. Seriously, Yoville or real world.

prowlncat
prowlncat

Yo!
Pluto bro.
I no be takin yo shit no mo!
Yo want me to define it?
Mess wid ma planetary alignment?
Well I be messin wid yo mojo
Ho!

*scratches head* you think that scareded him?

fallen angel
fallen angel

Honey, I think he heard your boots tapping down the hallway followed by that crackling whip and he got out of Dodge pronto… I mean, he really is only used to dealing with submissives, and you got hell AND leather AND tits AND a massive divine fuqing feminine primordial rage.

I think that whole bit of him sending Persephone back for 6 months was his way of saying he could only take it for half a year….

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

*Applause*

people are going to totally kick 2010’s newbie little arse, huh?:)

leonine librarian
leonine librarian

*stands in silent awe*…then *hoots and hollers*…because.

prowlncat
prowlncat

well actually I’m wearing something that can’t work out whether it’s a kaftan or a shirt dress, with bare feet and 2 inches worth of greys in amongst the black hair that quite frankly IS looking Medusaesque … but by the stars am I channelling some sort of “massive divine fuqing feminine primordial rage” even if after biotch slapping Pluto back to Hell, I need a good tissue box soaking cry. SO EFFING WOT!

feels good.

fluid feline
fluid feline

oh fuq – you are eclipsing – forget my question, maybe i’ll ask you another time. remember you are beautiful, articulate and witty, anything less and we wouldn’t love you. *hands over tissue box* xoxoxox

aquaphobe
aquaphobe

reading that just make me want to give you a hug, make you a cocktail and place a giant choc tray infront of you. (ok, the tray would be giant…but i think at this stage i would have eaten half the goods)

starstrokes
starstrokes

Very convincing Kali impersonation has been successfully kept in check today by watching The Sound of Music. “The hills are alive…..!”

Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap
Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap

Oh that’s hilarious! But go Kali I say! Anyway, Julie Andrews’ character wasn’t exactly swimming with the cultural tide in that movie……”How do we solve a problem like Maria” but then again she wasn’t exactly decapitating people and donning their skulls as trophies either. Kali certainly knew how to accessorise!

whatever
whatever

Thanks for your words & wisdom this year mystic. Word to the mother ship.

Stress Princess
Stress Princess

Oohhhhhhh, deary me. My b’day is on the 31st. (Cap sun, Cancer moon). My Saggo boyfriend and are at a very tense, hardly-speaking, avoiding each other all day and night type of place (which is esp tense considering we live together.) My Cancer bro is visiting from overseas with 2 gorgeous (Leo and Virgo redheaded) toddlers and his ‘mood-swings-r-us’ Saggo wife, and they’re staying at my bitched-up Scorp mother’s house. On Thurs, we’re having a big family “happy b’day me/ Happy NY” thing at mother’s house – Saggo boyfriend is invited too… Ergh. Should I just stay home and play… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Happy Bday Stress P! Ah look it’s your day, IMO, you can act like a spoiled brat and it would be completely merited, in fact why don’t you? You can out-mood the Sagg sis in law, out-nonspeakers the Sagg Beau, out-bitch your Mum (and yes it is possible to out bitch a Scorp) – it will be like Survivor, Your Version, haha.. Trust me. Think of it as a social experiment and watch them suddenly melt in sympathy and concern. I come from a family of 6 kids and have had decades of watching siblings act up to get what… Read more »

Tati
Tati

Do a heap of writing just before you go to celebrate with the rellies… At least then you will have done something productive & might feel happier in the evening?

Anonymous
Anonymous

Thanks Mystic, your astromagic has made an at times right shit of a year much more bearable and been the only line in the sand sometimes that i could point to. And laugh at. Bless.

Hope your 2010 is a wee cracker xx

I have called off all NYE plans with people I know and opted at the last minute for a festival with reiki, organic food and great music, taken solo. Tomorrow. Will be leaving the phone at home and immersing myself in hippy love and eclipse magic.

Love to you all for the new decade x

whatever
whatever

LOL cancerian eclipse + hippie love = pack contraception & rizlas

prowlncat
prowlncat

and pizza

Tati
Tati

mmmmmmm pizza

saggigal
saggigal

I am feeling mega bitched up at men , no it’s more society in general, which no amount of ocean swimming, meditation and Bach flower remedies seem to shift. And so thank you mystic because at least now I have a cosmic reason for my rage. Godess vs patriarchy indeed. A huge catharsis moment is upon me I am sure. Grrr. And there I was thinking I was cruising through the build up to the eclipse season pretty well. Oh well. More wonderful ‘stuff ‘ to release, right?

fallen angel
fallen angel

I would like to know if we called a 15 minute world wide Prayer to Lilith, invoking the heart focus of every single female on the planet, if it will finally a) significantly improve conditions for world peace, b) create subsidies for alternative treatments, cosmetic surgery and well, shoes, c) make most things in relationships a LOT more straightforward, i.e. girl likes boy, either asks the other out, they get on or they don’t, end of story, and d) make having a real woman’s figure THE norm rather than being a bobble headed skinnitarian who is all hair and bug… Read more »

Stress Princess
Stress Princess

Ha! The article sounds fab, FA.

And i LOVE your idea to have cosmetic surgery and alt therapies subsidised. Bit of Botox on medicare, followed by a fantastic neck massage. Stress free and no more frown lines 🙂

And yes, why aren’t relationships more straight-forward………

saggigal
saggigal

Lol, that made me smile for the first time today fa! I love that the jurors wept for her. Yes indeed!
And yes, normal womens figures! I can’t believe generation after generation has to fight for that one. I am fed up enough is enough had it ip to here with the entertainment industry, mens mags, womens mags too, all sporting teens and early twenties as the epitomy of beauty. And I am OVAH the word ‘hot’. Just fuq off. I am so sick of it all. Oh dear Lilith please grant me some reprise soon!! Xx

Stress Princess
Stress Princess

EXACTLY, Sagg! When does it end – generation after generation of this perpetuated “women can only defined by their looks if they want to count” BS! And what makes me most angry is when I feel crap for being me when the sexier, younger, etc etc chick walks in and all male attention turns to her. WHY do I still suffer from this when I know what’s going on??? I”m smart and funny and creative. When are those traits going to be worth more so women have something to aspire to? It always seems to be about less and less… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Oui, the article was par excellence darlings! And it quotes a Fortune 500 female Vice President who photocopied vital documents proving nearly all the women in the company were paid $20 to $25K LESS than all the men, which resulted in a grievance that won female employees the correct compensation. She said anonymously, “The best revenge is simply to make the truth known.” And Le Truth is we are more than our physical endowments. I mean, kudos to the hot chicks but that ain’t got staying power. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE it when men react that way to… Read more »

gildedcage
gildedcage

“As for objectification, I pursue a non-discriminatory policy on that one. You can objectify me as long as I can objectify YOU. Bend over Baby… whooooo!”

Aaahahahahha! Quote. Of. The. Century.

With you on that one FA, and oooh BOY do people that way inclined HATE IT when you give them a taste of their own medicine.
All the while I just calmly vibe “What’s got your knickers in a knot? I thought that’s what you wanted…after all, it is how you treat moi, no?”

aquaphobe
aquaphobe

“the brain activity required to focus on my conversation interferes with erectile function.”

buahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha….

fallen angel
fallen angel

Oh ye speaketh the truth, Gilded, and isn’t it SO hilarious that these “people” have the temerity to look absolutely affronted when one simply mirrors their lovely behavior?? I once had a tryst with my ex, the WHU (Well Hung Uranian) who, bless his little heart, likes to really lay it on THICK with the compliments when he was angling for a shag. I’m a busy woman, I ain’t got time, state your name, rank, serial number and let’s build this bridge. Hence when the deed was done, he was luxuriously coming in for a cuddle when I swept all… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

“follow the words, sweetie, follow the words…”

HAHAHAHA…

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

I hear ya Stress Princess. I LOATHE those terms “yummy mummy” and “Cougar”. AAARRGH!! And I’m sick of hearing about the personal lives of celebrities on the news. Yes, the news!!! Gee, if i was interested in hearing the 911 message the stupid fuckwit Charlie Sheen’s wife/girlfriend or whatever left i’d go and read it in the trash mags. How does that make the news? Pffft. I’m not interested in their boring lives. Go away already! I thought Pluto in Cap was going to be the end of celebrity worship. *sigh*

prowlncat
prowlncat

Our society has lost all …. all … Class. Style. Purpose. Integrity. *sigh*

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

i despair at humanity sometimes. I really do.

saggigal
saggigal

God i’m so glad to hear you ladies think the same way. Tonight of all nights I need to feel that I’m not fighting out this whole thing all on my lonesome. And yea, I totally have that inner conflict of feeling inadequate/ wanting the attention myself and yet hating the paradigm that sets women up to feel that way in the first place.

tati
tati

Ugh. Also hate “MILF” as well as “cougar”. Older woman with younger man does not = predatory, just LUCKY and possibly a bit immature.

Am feeling slightly sensitive on this issue as 3 out of last 4 men were MUCH younger. hmph.

scorpiontailedtongue
scorpiontailedtongue

agreed! The news have became tabloids. I hate tabloids and don’t buy them now, I turn off the news.

fallen angel
fallen angel

OMG “Cougar” has got me steamed too Scorpy! And guess wot? One of my close male gay friends was having a bitchy jealous moment as we walked arm in arm through the shops, having just turned 30 he seems under the illusion that he is shielded from the process of aging and actually asked me, “So Angel, how do you feel when people look at us and think you’re a cougar??” I coulda slapped him. But in my utmost dulcet tones I replied back sweetly, “Oh darling I DON’T think about it, after all, I hardly look my age and… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Oh and yes, Scorpy I also make it a point to AVOID celebrity brands like the plague. Seriously is it not enough they’re polluting my culture they have to get into the stuff too?

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

OOOH, nice come back FA!! I would have been pissed off with that comment too!

tati
tati

ooh FA totally fab!!

aquaphobe
aquaphobe

yep, me too…had some sort of steam vent last night at work. snapping at a group of them and being sour faced. walked outside for five to talk myself down. in the vein of …WTF….why am i being a cow….its like part of me wanted to swat them like mozzies.

LolaMoreno
LolaMoreno

Full Moon Eclipse + severe PMT = a very quiet and insular NYE for moi!!!

prowlncat
prowlncat

the flood of teary Cancerian wallowing has already started … *sigh*

fallen angel
fallen angel

Shall I stroke your boots for you Prowlin? Hugs. Yes, mine did on the 24th. AND my car got hit by a Rabbi at the mall parking lot yesterday. No punchline, that actually happened. AND all sorts of Martian Men are oozing out of the woodwork save for the one I actually want to emerge from it. If I took every offer for coffee up I should be able to avoid sleep till the New Year. AND that one is a Cappo while I am a Cancer so the astro is making me wanna go “Oppose this M’er Effer” But… Read more »

prowlncat
prowlncat

i’ve just been reading tarot cards for other people. I’ve avoided that for years but it’s just pouring out of me like a proverbial well of intergalactic connection. Anything. ANYTHING to avoid my own well of self absorbtion, self pitying, wallowing CRAP. God I hate it when stuff is in Cancer … particularly a friggin full moon eclipse. I spend so much time pretending I’m not one. *grumps*

fallen angel
fallen angel

Oh HON, I SOOOO get where you are! BUT I must say through the years I’ve been managing to catch the flip side of Katak Moon activity i.e. tons of pitiful crying, smeegel like self-flagellating followed by luminous vibrating as if I have inhaled all the powers of the Moon, can see, hear, know, feel ALL as a Goddess Incarnate. That sounds slightly bipolar but Cancer is nothing if not ebbing and flowing…at least you are using your magna-vibes to help peeps! I just bought 5 gym pants, painted my nails in Black Diamond while reading Utopia and about 5… Read more »

prowlncat
prowlncat

I hate it I hate it I hate IT!!! That damn moon … that friggin ebbing and friggin flowing can go friggin ebb and flow in someone elses life. I have Gem Asc thankyouverymuch and Sagg moon. Neither of which have time for all this bollocks. Ok so I honoured that most hated part of myself today and had a good ol’ cry – at least 4 tissues were involved. Then just sat reading cards like a machine.

nat
nat

yeah but no but yeah but… Prowln there are SO MANY lovely Cancerian things about you. Like you are an artist, you have your own ability to create & make things, you are a Goddess in the kitchen… Can you not channel the ebb and flow into those areas a bit more? Draw/cook/create your way through it? And (yes, I am lecturing you here, if you can’t find the thing you want right now you have to BE it). And what do you mean 4 tissues? Surely you mean 4 boxes of tissues – thats a cry 😉 You’ll be… Read more »

nat
nat

I was just thinking where do Cancer & Saggo intersect? Maybe take your Cancerian Sun and Saggo Moon to the beach prowln? Yes, a VERY long walk on the beach will sort you out, little crabby one x

fallen angel
fallen angel

at a bbq darling Nat, that would be the convergence of Cancer Sun and Sagg Moon, cooking while telling lots of jokes slightly tinged with Lunar Laughter. With Prowlin’s Gem Asc she should also be able to mix drinks, do a jig, maybe a spot of Karaoke while slapping down a sausage on someone’s plate with a snicker. Once she gets through Super Nova 5 of course. My eclipsing resulted in more shopping (fortunately or unfortunately) – it may be my Venus in Leo sulking mightily. Truly I am feeling so Q. Elizabeth right now, surrounded by knaves I have… Read more »

prowlncat
prowlncat

close Angel … but yes long walk along beach would have me sticking rocks down my trakky daks and hoofing it into the ocean ready to End It All. Too much preponderance. Sorry Nat, I appreciate the effort. *grin* Gem Asc requires TALKING … lots. Cancer Sun/Venus requires talking IN DEPTH lots. Sag moon requires talking in depth lots and to LOTS of people. Leo Merc just likes being a verbal show pony. The Best Thing is what I’ve been doing – tarot readings. Hours and hours of them. Pondering over other peeps issssues, in a rock steady environment with… Read more »

fluid feline
fluid feline

Hey prowlin, I’m with you on the full moon eclipse in Kataka – it’s hitting my moon in the 5th and my French Kataka lovely – everything has gone pear-shaped! I dumped him but can’t let him go, weird text messages, full on texting arguments; and I might be pregnant (eep!). Anyway was given the Alistair Crowley pack by my sister a while back and did the Celtic Cross for myself on one occasion (I’m being very respectful of these cards) and the result to the question (card 10) was the Princess of Disks. Question was in relation to my… Read more »

prowlncat
prowlncat

sweetie if you wanna know if you are preggers take a test pronto! With Cancer in the 5th your idea of fun now is serious homemaking, power shopping at Ikea with your beloved and generally enjoying lots of cuddles over yummy home cooked meals. No messin about. What the cards are showing you is that you’re both learning how to “bring it down into the real world” …. the relationship that is. And because you’re talking about knights and pages (princess/prince in new decks) it means growing and learning as you go. It’s a new relationship so that makes perfect… Read more »

fluid feline
fluid feline

It’s too early to do the test. And yes we text back and forth. His visa runs out 22 Jan and he’s gotta go. He needs to do another year of his profession before he can become a resident. When we’re together it’s total cocooning, but there’s other factors like hey I have children and his parents are here (and they don’t speak English) and he has to take care of them and he’s a cancer so of course he does. And the there’s his fuqing aqua rising that is always weirding around. Anyway….

prowlncat
prowlncat

if you like email me at prowlncat@hotmail.com and we can tee up something more suitable offblog.

but good to actually SEE YOU Ms FF *grin*

Taurean Love Expert
Taurean Love Expert

oooh, I’m going to channel this bit: ” apart from the general catharthis it’s like a confrontation between the patriarchy and the feminine divine…”

fallen angel
fallen angel

Like that was the story of my childhood, and explains why I live a CONTINENT away from my family. Next time I will use that as the most succinct explanation for my escape to America.

Anonymous
Anonymous

it is also on my birthday. should i stay home ?

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

I am interpreting it as not to do anything that feels too risky or out of comfort zone, you know. Not to not leave the house but not to do amything that does not feel right either. So I am going out but within walking distance to my house and with simpatico types, easy people, the known and homie environment

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

I’m an Aries….Do as you damn well please girl…B-day only once a year…EXtra spec. to me….Also special is an eclipse on your Sun… Look up “eclipse on your Solar Return” on the web and get some ideas….

Can mean you may be noticed in some wonderful new way for starters, or that men (The Sun, Animus) may be important to you, or, that you may use Your Will (The Sun/ego) in a way pertinent to you..

And Happy Birthday!!

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